"And the winner is..." (2024 awards season thread)

[phantom_power]

Dances With Wolves beating Goodfellas a few years earlier for best film and best director surely a much bigger crime (actually Ordinary People beating Raging Bull 10 years earlier maybe even worse)

I will see that and raise you Driving Miss Daisy winning while Do The Right Thing wasn't even nominated

[Mister Six]

Ruffalo is tons of fun, but an Oscar would be a bit much. Agreed that it should probably go to Giamatti, who's great. RDJ was all right, but it was just a generally good performance from him minus the usual tics, I didn't come out of it particularly thrilled by him.

[Bad Ambassador]

Bafta nominations

Best Film:
"Anatomy of a Fall"
"The Holdovers"
"Killers of the Flower Moon"
"Oppenheimer"
"Poor Things"

Outstanding British Film:
"All of Us Strangers"
"How to Have Sex"
"Napoleon"
"The Old Oak"
"Poor Things"
"Rye Lane"
"Saltburn"
"Scrapper"
"Wonka"
"The Zone of Interest"

Best Actor:
Bradley Cooper, "Maestro"
Colman Domingo, "Rustin"
Paul Giamatti, "The Holdovers"
Barry Keoghan, "Saltburn"
Cillian Murphy, "Oppenheimer"
Teo Yoo, "Past Lives"

Best Actress:
Fantasia Barrino, "The Colour Purple"
Sandra Hüller, "Anatomy of a Fall"
Carey Mulligan, "Maestro"
Vivian Oparah, "Rye Lane"
Margot Robbie, "Barbie"
Emma Stone, "Poor Things"

Best Supporting Actor:
Robert De Niro, "Killers of the Flower Moon"
Robert Downey Jr, "Oppenheimer"
Jacob Elordi, "Saltburn"
Ryan Gosling, "Barbie"
Paul Mescal, "All of Us Strangers"
Dominic Sessa, "The Holdovers"

Best Supporting Actress:
Emily Blunt, "Oppenheimer"
Danielle Brooks, "The Colour Purple"
Claire Foy, "All of Us Strangers"
Sandra Hüller, "The Zone of Interest"
Rosamund Pike, "Saltburn"
Da'Vine Joy Randolph, "The Holdovers"

Best Director:
Justine Triet, "Anatomy of a Fall"
Andrew Haigh, "All of Us Strangers"
Alexander Payne, "The Holdovers"
Bradley Cooper, "Maestro"
Christopher Nolan, "Oppenheimer"
Jonathan Glazer, "The Zone of Interest"

Outstanding Debut by a British Writer, Director or Producer:
"Blue Bag Life"
"Bobi Wine: The People's President"
"Earth Mama"
"How to Have Sex"
"Is There Anybody Out There?"

Best Original Screenplay:
Arthur Harari, Justine Triet, "Anatomy of a Fall"
Noah Baumbach, Greta Gerwig, "Barbie"
David Hemingson, "The Holdovers"
Bradley Cooper, Josh Singer, "Maestro"
Celine Song, "Past Lives"

Best Adapted Screenplay:
Andrew Haigh, "All of Us Strangers"
Cord Jefferson, "American Fiction"
Christopher Nolan,"Oppenheimer"
Tony McNamara, "Poor Things"
Jonathan Glazer, "The Zone of Interest"

Best Cinematography:
"Killers of the Flower Moon"
"Maestro"
"Oppenheimer"
"Poor Things"
"The Zone of Interest"

Best Make Up & Hair:
"Killers of the Flower Moon"
"Maestro"
"Napoleon"
"Oppenheimer"
"Poor Things"

Best Original Music:
Robbie Robertson, "Killers of the Flower Moon"
Ludwig Göransson, "Oppenheimer"
Jerskin Fendrix, "Poor Things"
Anthony Willis, "Saltburn"
Daniel Pemberton, "Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse"

Best Casting:
"All of Us Strangers"
"Anatomy of a Fall"
"The Holdovers"
"How to Have Sex"
"Killers of the Flower Moon"

Best Editing:
"Anatomy of a Fall"
"Killers of the Flower Moon"
"Oppenheimer"
"Poor Things"
"The Zone of Interest"

Best Production Design:
"Barbie"
"Killers of the Flower Moon"
"Oppenheimer"
"Poor Things"
"The Zone of Interest"

Best Costume Design:
"Barbie"
"Killers of the Flower Moon"
"Napoleon"
"Oppenheimer"
"Poor Things"

Best Sound:
"Ferrari"
"Maestro"
"Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning: Part One"
"Oppenheimer"
"The Zone of Interest"

Best Special Visual Effects:
"The Creator"
"Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3"
"Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning: Part One"
"Napoleon"
"Poor Things"

Best Documentary Feature:
"20 Days in Mariupol"
"American Symphony"
"Beyond Utopia"
"Still: A Michael J Fox Movie"
"Wham!"

Best Animated Feature:
"The Boy and the Heron"
"Chicken Run: Dawn of the Nugget"
"Elemental"
"Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse"

Best Short Animation:
"Crab Day"
"Visible Mending"
"Wild Summon"

Best Film Not in the English Language:
"20 Days in Mariupol"
"Anatomy of a Fall"
"Past Lives"
"Society of the Snow"
"The Zone of Interest"

Best Short Film:
"Festival of Slaps"
"Gorka"
"Jellyfish and Lobster"
"Such a Lovely Day"
"Yellow"

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Nominations per picture

"Oppenheimer"                13
"Poor Things"                11
"Killers of the Flower Moon"        9
"The Zone of Interest"            9
"Anatomy of a Fall"            7
"The Holdovers"                7
"Maestro"                7
"All of Us Strangers"            6
"Barbie"                5
"Saltburn"                5
"Napoleon"                4
"How to Have Sex"            3
"Past Lives"                3
"The Colour Purple"            2
"Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning: Part One"    2
"Rye Lane"                2
"Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse"    2
"American Fiction"            1
"The Creator"                1
"Ferrari"                1
"Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3"        1
"Rustin"                1

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[Noodle Lizard]

I don't remember exactly what qualifies for a British film at the BAFTAs now, but surely Napoleon simply isn't one?

[Bad Ambassador]

I think it's because a large chunck of the film was shot here and Scott's production company is based in the UK.

[Noodle Lizard]

I think it's because a large chunck of the film was shot here and Scott's production company is based in the UK.

Fair enough I suppose, but I wonder if that would make something like the new Indiana Jones qualify since it was mostly shot at Pinewood.

(Not that it'd qualify anyway, as it was shit.)

[Bad Ambassador]

Oscar nominations

Best Picture
"American Fiction"
"Anatomy of a Fall"
"Barbie"
"The Holdovers"
"Killers of the Flower Moon"
"Maestro"
"Oppenheimer"
"Past Lives"
"Poor Things"
"The Zone of Interest"

Best Director
Justine Triet, "Anatomy of a Fall"
Martin Scorsese, "Killers of the Flower Moon"
Christopher Nolan, "Oppenheimer"
Yorgos Lanthimos, "Poor Things"
Jonathan Glazer, "The Zone of Interest"

Best Actor
Bradley Cooper, "Maestro"
Colman Domingo, "Rustin"
Paul Giamatti, "The Holdovers"
Cillian Murphy, "Oppenheimer"
Jeffrey Wright, "American Fiction"

Best Actress
Annette Bening, "Nyad"
Lily Gladstone, "Killers of the Flower Moon"
Sandra Huller, "Anatomy of a Fall"
Carey Mulligan, "Maestro"
Emma Stone, "Poor Things"

Best Supporting Actress
Emily Blunt, "Oppenheimer"
Danielle Brooks, "The Color Purple"
America Ferrera, "Barbie"
Jodie Foster, "Nyad"
Da'Vine Joy Randolph, "The Holdovers"

Best Supporting Actor
Sterling K. Brown, "American Fiction"
Robert De Niro, "Killers of the Flower Moon"
Robert Downey, Jr., "Oppenheimer"
Ryan Gosling, "Barbie"
Mark Ruffalo, "Poor Things"

Best Animated Feature
"The Boy and the Heron"
"Elemental"
"Nimona"
"Robot Dreams"
"Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse"

Best International Feature
"Io Capitano"
"Perfect Days"
"Society of the Snow"
"The Teacher's Lounge"
"The Zone of Interest"

Best Documentary Feature
"Bobi Wine: The People's President"
"The Eternal Memory"
"Four Daughters"
"To Kill a Tiger"
"20 Days in Mariupol"

Best Adapted Screenplay
Cord Jefferson, "American Fiction"
Greta Gerwig and Noah Baumbach, "Barbie"
Christopher Nolan, "Oppenheimer"
Tony McNamara, "Poor Things"
Jonathan Glazer, "The Zone of Interest"

Best Original Screenplay
Justine Triet and Arthur Harari, "Anatomy of a Fall"
David Hemingson, "The Holdovers"
Bradley Cooper and Josh Singer, "Maestro"
Sammy Burch, "May December"
Celine Song, "Past Lives"

Best Cinematography
Edward Lachman, "El Conde"
Rodrigo Prieto, "Killers of the Flower Moon"
Matthew Libatique, "Maestro"
Hoyte van Hoytema, "Oppenheimer"
Robbie Ryan, "Poor Things"

Best Film Editing
Laurent Sénéchalt, "Anatomy of a Fall"
Kevin Tent, "The Holdovers"
Thelma Schoonmaker, "Killers of the Flower Moon"
Jennifer Lame, "Oppenheimer"
Yorgos Mavropsaridis, "Poor Things"

Best Production Design
Sarah Greenwood, "Barbie"
Jack Fisk, "Killers of the Flower Moon"
Arthur Max, "Napoleon"
Ruth De Jong, "Oppenheimer"
Shona Heath, James Price, "Poor Things"

Best Score
Laura Karpman, "American Fiction"
John Williams, "Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny"
Robbie Robertson, "Killers of the Flower Moon"
Ludwig Göransson, "Oppenheimer"
Jerskin Fendrix, "Poor Things"

Best Song
"The Fire Inside" from "Flamin' Hot"
"I'm Just Ken" from "Barbie"
"It Never Went Away" from "American Symphony
"Wahzhazhe (A Song For My People)" from "Killers of the Flower Moon"
"What Was I Made For?" from "Barbie"

Best Makeup and Hairstyling
"Golda"
"Maestro"
"Oppenheimer"
"Poor Things"
"Society of the Snow"

Best Costume Design
"Barbie"
"Killers of the Flower Moon"
"Napoleon"
"Oppenheimer"
"Poor Things"

Best Visual Effects
"The Creator"
"Godzilla Minus One"
"Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 3"
"Mission: Impossible – Dead Reckoning Part One"
"Napoleon"

Best Sound
"The Creator"
"Maestro"
"Mission: Impossible – Dead Reckoning Part One"
"Oppenheimer"
"The Zone of Interest"

Best Animated Short Film
"Letter to a Pig"
"Ninety-Five Senses"
"Our Uniform"
"Pachyderme"
"War is Over! Inspired by the Music of John and Yoko"

Best Documentary Short Film
"The ABCs of Book Banning"
"The Barber of Little Rock"
"Island In Between"
"The Last Repair Shop"
"Nai Nai & Wài Po"

Best Live-Action Short Film
"The After"
"Invincible"
"Night of Fortune"
"Red White and Blue"
"The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar"

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Nominations per picture

"Oppenheimer" 13
"Poor Things" 11
"Killers of the Flower Moon" 10
"Barbie" 8
"Maestro" 7
"American Fiction" 5
"Anatomy of a Fall" 5
"The Holdovers" 5
"The Zone of Interest" 5
"Napoleon" 3
"The Creator" 2
"Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning: Part One" 2
"Nyad" 2
"Past Lives" 2
"Society of the Snow" 2
"American Symphony" 1
"The Colour Purple" 1
"El Conde" 1
"Flamin' Hot" 1
"Godzilla Minus One" 1
"Golda" 1
"Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3" 1
"Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny" 1
"May December" 1
"Rustin" 1

[close]

[Butchers Blind]

Really didn't get the fuss about the Oppenheimer movie.

[twosclues]

Stealthily transferring my Past Lives upset prediction on to The Holdovers.

Yet to see American Fiction out of the ten, but unless it's a complete disaster, I think this is probably the strongest Best Picture lineup since they expanded from five nominees. Half of them are in my own top 10 of the year.

[Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth]

The Academy displays bias against women called Greta, as Gerwig and Lee are snubbed in the Best Director and Best Actress categories.

[Mister Six]

All right, let's DO THIS! My predictions (for those categories where I saw most of the films and actually have an opinion). Spoilered for neatness.

Spoiler alert

Best Picture
Should win: Oppenheimer. I preferred Poor Things, but the ambition and grandiosity of Oppenheimer beats it, soz Yorgs.

Will win: Oppenheimer.

Fuck off: Past Lives (exquisitely gilded turd), Barbie (it was fun, but come on).

Shout outs to: Poor Things (my film of 2024), The Holdovers (a bittersweet pleasure), Anatomy of a Fall (superior legal thriller), Zone of Interest (admirable but flawed).

I didn't see: American Fiction, Maestro.

Best Director
Justine Triet, "Anatomy of a Fall"
Martin Scorsese, "Killers of the Flower Moon"
Christopher Nolan, "Oppenheimer"
Yorgos Lanthimos, "Poor Things"
Jonathan Glazer, "The Zone of Interest"

Should win: Nolan.

Will win: Nolan.

Fuck off: Nobody, but Scorsese capitulating to DiCaprio's whims hobbled Killers.

Shout outs to: Poor Things (without Oppenheimer it'd be a shoo-in), Zone of Interest (not as showy as Glazer's other "recent" films, but beautifully made and with some stunning sequences).

Best Actor
Bradley Cooper, "Maestro"
Colman Domingo, "Rustin"
Paul Giamatti, "The Holdovers"
Cillian Murphy, "Oppenheimer"
Jeffrey Wright, "American Fiction"

Should win: Giamatti (pitch-perfect performance, a delight from start to finish)

Will win: Murphy (great performance, but not a ton of variety there)

I didn't see: American Fiction, Maestro, Rustin. Shouldn't really have done this one, should I?

Best Actress
Annette Bening, "Nyad"
Lily Gladstone, "Killers of the Flower Moon"
Sandra Huller, "Anatomy of a Fall"
Carey Mulligan, "Maestro"
Emma Stone, "Poor Things"

Should win: Stone (incredible, fearless, expansive performance).

Will win: Gladstone (I'd have picked her if I hadn't seen Poor Things. She's worthy, but I think the opportunity for Hollywood libs to vote for a Native American actress will be the deciding factor).

Shout outs to: Huller (wonderful turn, especially with such an ambiguous script).

I didn't see: Nyad (hadn't even heard of it!), Maestro.

Best Supporting Actress
Emily Blunt, "Oppenheimer"
Danielle Brooks, "The Color Purple"
America Ferrera, "Barbie"
Jodie Foster, "Nyad"
Da'Vine Joy Randolph, "The Holdovers"

Should win: Randolph (sells every moment, incredibly affecting).

Will win: Ferrera (Barbie apology Oscar). EDIT: Actually, thinking about it, Adapted Screenplay will be Barbie's consolation prize, and Randolph will probably take this one.

I didn't see: The Color Purple, Nyad.

Best Supporting Actor
Sterling K. Brown, "American Fiction"
Robert De Niro, "Killers of the Flower Moon"
Robert Downey, Jr., "Oppenheimer"
Ryan Gosling, "Barbie"
Mark Ruffalo, "Poor Things"

Should win: Ruffalo or Gosling (not really, but I had more fun watching them than anyone else on this list).

Will win: Downey Jr (he did okay, but eh, see below).

Fuck off: Not really "fuck offs", but Downey Jr and De Niro were both going through the motions. I guess RDJ turned down the tics for once.

I didn't see: American Fiction.

Best Animated Feature
"The Boy and the Heron"
"Elemental"
"Nimona"
"Robot Dreams"
"Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse"

Should win: Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse (jaw-dropping advancement on the first film visually, and the script is great too. But it's the first of a two-parter so I imagine they'll hold off for the next one).

Will win: The Boy and the Heron (a very worthy film, but very Miyazaki-by-numbers).

Fuck off: Elemental (generic Pixar thing. It's OK).

Shout outs to: Nimona (fun! And props to Netflix for buying a film Disney dropped for being too queer).

I didn't see: Robot Dreams (it's not about sheep, as it happens. And it looks cute).

Best Adapted Screenplay
Cord Jefferson, "American Fiction"
Greta Gerwig and Noah Baumbach, "Barbie"
Christopher Nolan, "Oppenheimer"
Tony McNamara, "Poor Things"
Jonathan Glazer, "The Zone of Interest"

Should win: Oppenheimer.

Will win: Oppenheimer. Or maybe Barbie as a consolation prize.

Fuck off: Barbie (not because it's bad, but how is it an "adapted screenplay"? Stupid Academy decision)

Shout outs to: Poor Things, The Zone of Interest.

I didn't see: American Fiction.

Best Original Screenplay
Justine Triet and Arthur Harari, "Anatomy of a Fall"
David Hemingson, "The Holdovers"
Bradley Cooper and Josh Singer, "Maestro"
Sammy Burch, "May December"
Celine Song, "Past Lives"

Should win: The Holdovers (perfectly pitched tragi-comedy).

Will win: Probably The Holdovers, actually, but Anatomy would be a good fit too. Actually, hold on, Past Lives as a consolation prize.

Fuck off: Past Lives (all the film had going for it was cinematography and performances), May December (sort of - actually a decent script, but rather loose and shapeless; the performances are what sold the film).

I didn't see: Maestro.

Best Cinematography
Edward Lachman, "El Conde"
Rodrigo Prieto, "Killers of the Flower Moon"
Matthew Libatique, "Maestro"
Hoyte van Hoytema, "Oppenheimer"
Robbie Ryan, "Poor Things"

Should win: Poor Things.

Will win: Poor Things.

Shout outs to: Oppenheimer (looked great for a film about people sitting in rooms being intense), El Conde (beautiful use of B&W, a few really stunning images).

I didn't see: Maestro.

Best Film Editing
Laurent Sénéchalt, "Anatomy of a Fall"
Kevin Tent, "The Holdovers"
Thelma Schoonmaker, "Killers of the Flower Moon"
Jennifer Lame, "Oppenheimer"
Yorgos Mavropsaridis, "Poor Things"

Should win: Oppenheimer (stunning achievement).

Will win: Oppenheimer.

Shout outs to: Killers especially.

Best Production Design
Sarah Greenwood, "Barbie"
Jack Fisk, "Killers of the Flower Moon"
Arthur Max, "Napoleon"
Ruth De Jong, "Oppenheimer"
Shona Heath, James Price, "Poor Things"

Should win: Poor Things (those sets!).

Will win: Barbie (that set).

I didn't see: Napoleon.

Best Costume Design
"Barbie"
"Killers of the Flower Moon"
"Napoleon"
"Oppenheimer"
"Poor Things"

Should win: Poor Things (gorgeous, sumptuous flamboyance throughout).

Will win: Killers (apology Oscar).

Best Visual Effects
"The Creator"
"Godzilla Minus One"
"Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 3"
"Mission: Impossible – Dead Reckoning Part One"
"Napoleon"

Should win: The Creator (for what it did on a tiny budget) or Godzilla Minus One (for what it did on a tinier budget)

Will win: Actually, I reckon The Creator might nab this one.

Fuck off: Mission: Impossible (ooh, Tom Cruise stood on the surface of the sun or whatever - who cares?), Guardians (Marvel $$$$ actually used well is sort of an achievement, but it's all quite uninspiring).

I didn't see: Napoleon, The Creator (I know, I know), Mission: Impossible (I know, I know, I know).

Best Sound
"The Creator"
"Maestro"
"Mission: Impossible – Dead Reckoning Part One"
"Oppenheimer"
"The Zone of Interest"

Should win: The Zone of Interest (best thing about the film, just incredible)

Will win: The Zone of Interest

Fuck off: Oppenheimer (what's that, Oppy? I can't hear you because Christopher Nolan shat all over the mixing desk again).

I didn't see: The Creator, Maestro, Mission: Impossible.

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[rjd2]

Spoiler alert

Best Picture



Best Actress
Annette Bening, "Nyad"
Lily Gladstone, "Killers of the Flower Moon"
Sandra Huller, "Anatomy of a Fall"
Carey Mulligan, "Maestro"
Emma Stone, "Poor Things"

Should win: Stone (incredible, fearless, expansive performance).

Will win: Gladstone (I'd have picked her if I hadn't seen Poor Things. She's worthy, but I think the opportunity for Hollywood libs to vote for a Native American actress will be the deciding factor).



Best Supporting Actress
Emily Blunt, "Oppenheimer"
Danielle Brooks, "The Color Purple"
America Ferrera, "Barbie"
Jodie Foster, "Nyad"
Da'Vine Joy Randolph, "The Holdovers"

Should win: Randolph (sells every moment, incredibly affecting).

Will win: Ferrera (Barbie apology Oscar).

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Interesting, Randolph has been cleaning up on the awards circuit has she not?

I know its a grubby filthy industry but if you believe Ferrera has a chance she is 25/1 to win this so maybe worth a throwaway fiver ?

[Mister Six]

Interesting, Randolph has been cleaning up on the awards circuit has she not?

I know its a grubby filthy industry but if you believe Ferrera has a chance she is 25/1 to win this so maybe worth a throwaway fiver ?

Actually you're probably right - having thought about it again, they'll give adapted screenplay to Barbie as the consolation prize and Randolph will take the supporting actress vote (because she's genuinely the best I've seen, but also because she's a large black woman verging on middle age and the Academy libs will lap that up).

[twosclues]

Think you're mostly right in your predictions of the higher-profile categories, though think I'd predict Stone over Gladstone in Actress at this point. KOTFM looks to me like another Irishman, highly nominated but ultimately will come up short, and they seem to love Poor Things and Actress is the biggest category it can feasibly win (also Gladstone missed out on BAFTA though I'm not sure how predictive they are these days). Also think Giamatti has a major chance if my admittedly spurious Holdovers surge comes to pass.

[Small Man Big Horse]

Normally I've seen about half of the Best Picture nominations, but this year it's only Barbie, The Holdovers and Oppenheimer, and the only ones I want to see out of the rest are Poor Things and American Fiction. I really don't get the fuss over Oppenheimer either, I guess it deserves some credit for telling a fairly dry story in an interesting enough manner, but otherwise it seemed quite bland to me.

[rjd2]

Actually you're probably right - having thought about it again, they'll give adapted screenplay to Barbie as the consolation prize and Randolph will take the supporting actress vote (because she's genuinely the best I've seen, but also because she's a large black woman verging on middle age and the Academy libs will lap that up).

https://twitter.com/emmylanepotter/status/1749799355693879750

I can't embed tweets here it seems. Its a fair point, I know it wasn't exactly a commercial powerhouse but not like that's been an issue before.

[Mister Six]

To be honest, I don't think that film or Portman were good enough to get nominations, but I do think Charles Melton was criminally overlooked for a best supporting actor nomination. He should've got it instead of Gosling.

[selectivememory]

Presented without comment:

[C_Larence]

Margotkanda forever ☹️

[Mister Six]

Oh god, yeah, this is all over the place now.

People apparently unable to grasp the idea that Robbie and Gosling are competing for different awards against different groups of people, and even if the two of them produced a measurably identical quality of performance, Robbie not getting a nomination actually speaks to the higher quality of women's performances this year.

As I said above, Gosling shouldn't have got the nomination either - it should have gone to Charles Melton. But it's the Oscars, it's not like it really means that much beyond a bit of fun to chat about with other nerds.

[Old Nehamkin]

Yeah this discourse would only make the slightest bit of sense if there was one combined gender-neutral acting category.  But there isn't, so effectively this is just people saying that Margot Robbie has been sexistly pushed out in favour of...other women. Would it be a win for feminism to exclude Carey Mulligan or Annette Benning from that category instead? What is anyone talking about?

[bgmnts]

Presented without comment:

Demented shite from liberals, as per.

Not arsed by this obviously but even so, if Nolan wins an Oscar I might commit an act of heinous violence.

[Old Nehamkin]

I seem to be in the CaB minority on this based on the number of "what utter dross" type comments I've seen here about the film, but I thought Oppenheimer was a very compelling, accomplished piece of filmmaking and I wouldn't begrudge Nolan a win for it at all (and I say that as someone who's felt indifferent-to-negative on most of the man's prior output).

[Mister Six]

Yeah, I don't like Nolan much and I didn't want to like Oppenheimer either, but it's a superb film.

Yeah this discourse would only make the slightest bit of sense if there was one combined gender-neutral acting category.  But there isn't, so effectively this is just people saying that Margot Robbie has been sexistly pushed out in favour of...other women. Would it be a win for feminism to exclude Carey Mulligan or Annette Benning from that category instead? What is anyone talking about?

I think it was last year that everyone (ie. idiots) were up in arms about Andrea Riseborough "stealing" a slot from a black woman, even though all four of the other women in that category were non-black (Blanchett, Williams - I guess Ana de Armas being Latina means she gets counted as a POC - and Michelle Yeoh). When it was pointed out that this was ridiculous, it was shifted to Riseborough cheating by, er, building up a worth-of-mouth campaign by cleverly calling on her celeb mates, rather than bribing people with big dinners.

Basically, morons want to be angry about any kind of identity politics bullshit they can find, and this is the best they can come up with in a year with an unusual number of top-quality films and performances, and nominations for women and women of colour across the board.

[twosclues]

I would guess Robbie and Gerwig were both 6th in their respective, very stacked categories. And they're both nominated elsewhere. It's fine.

[selectivememory]

#HillaryBarbie

[Mister Six]

Nevertheless, the wildly successful millionaires persisted.

I thought for a second that tweet was having a go at Barry Keoghan, and was like, "Oof, that's out of line."

[rjd2]

Yeah, I don't like Nolan much and I didn't want to like Oppenheimer either, but it's a superb film.

I think it was last year that everyone (ie. idiots) were up in arms about Andrea Riseborough "stealing" a slot from a black woman, even though all four of the other women in that category were non-black (Blanchett, Williams - I guess Ana de Armas being Latina means she gets counted as a POC - and Michelle Yeoh). When it was pointed out that this was ridiculous, it was shifted to Riseborough cheating by, er, building up a worth-of-mouth campaign by cleverly calling on her celeb mates, rather than bribing people with big dinners.

Basically, morons want to be angry about any kind of identity politics bullshit they can find, and this is the best they can come up with in a year with an unusual number of top-quality films and performances, and nominations for women and women of colour across the board.

Its fine to be annoyed about Greta's exclusion if you have seen the 5 picked and think Barbie was better but the vast majority haven't so whoops.

It's not the first crowd pleasing film which has been excluded from best director and it won't be the last.

I probably should shut up though as I only calmed down last year about Nighcrawler been properly blanked back in the day anyhow.

[Mister Six]

*word of mouth

Dammit.

[convulsivespace]

Presented without comment:

I have a dream, that one day, society will let a woman be nominated for Best Actress.