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Title: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: surreal on February 19, 2015, 07:53:07 AM
This could be amazing, having seen his design ideas at least it should look amazing:

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/new-alien-movie-confirmed-at-fox-with-director-neill-blomkamp-1201436551/ (http://variety.com/2015/film/news/new-alien-movie-confirmed-at-fox-with-director-neill-blomkamp-1201436551/)
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Post by: Paaaaul on February 19, 2015, 08:20:55 AM
Or it could be a beautiful looking turd like Elysium.
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Post by: mobias on February 19, 2015, 09:56:45 AM
Dear god they're making another Prometheus movie. Not doubt Scott will answer all the plot questions absolutely no one was interested in at the end of the last one.
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Post by: Johnny Textface on February 19, 2015, 10:05:50 AM
Think there's going to be three Prometheus movies altogether?

Let's hope Blomkamp forgets Alien Cubed and Insurrection ever happened yeah?

I'm excited for this - shame Giger did a death though.
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Post by: Alberon on February 19, 2015, 10:18:04 AM
It looks like, from the pre-production artwork he released when he thought the project was dead, Blomkamp was looking to ignore Alien 3 and 4 and produce a new sequel to Aliens.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a619008/neill-blomkamp-reveals-concept-art-for-alien-sequel-that-never-happened.html

Whether any of that is where he's going now, or whether he's working on something completely new it does have promise. Elysium was destroyed by an abysmal script, but it was shot well, and District 9 shows he's capable of good work. Chappie is being released soon, so we can see if he's still got it.

Have to say though that I'm much more interested in a Blomkamp Alien film (especially if Weaver is back) than I am in another Prometheus movie (which was also shot well, but with a dreadful script).
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Post by: mobias on February 19, 2015, 10:22:21 AM

I'm excited for this - shame Giger did a death though.

There's a massive body of work of fantastic designs going right back through his career though. Anyone could easily take inspiration for new creatures and designs from any number of his books if they really wanted to. The depressing and surprising thing is that no director since the first movie has really wanted Giger's involvement in any meaningful way. Even with Prometheus Giger was only involved in quite a minor way. I remember Ridley Scott stating in an interview he chose a new designer for a lot of stuff because he wanted the film to have a fresh feel to it. Its Bonkers really. 
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Post by: Replies From View on February 19, 2015, 10:30:47 AM
If Sigourney Weaver is involved, it might not be as Ellen Ripley but as another character (Ellen's daughter?).  It depends where the events of Prometheus 2 fit into the Alien timeline.
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Post by: mobias on February 19, 2015, 11:06:50 AM
Reading his post I would say this probably isn't going to happen. It looks like it was done as a bit of fan fiction, just toying with ideas. Having said all that I suppose if they can crowbar in an Aliens v's Predator movie into the Alien franchise they can crowbar in a sequel to Aliens and pretend 3 and 4 never happened. I suspect 21st Century Fox probably think the Prometheus franchise is the new Alien cash cow now though. I think thats the direction they'll take it. Its such a shame they started out on such a duff footing.   
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Post by: Johnny Textface on February 19, 2015, 11:10:33 AM
I remember Ridley Scott stating in an interview he chose a new designer for a lot of stuff because he wanted the film to have a fresh feel to it. Its Bonkers really. 

There's a little bit in The Furious Gods: Making of Prometheus, where Giger comes to visit the set.  Scott is showing him some designs they've done and how they've tried to interpret some of his earlier work.  He just looks a bit bemused.
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Post by: Replies From View on February 19, 2015, 11:14:51 AM
I don't really see the value of ignoring Alien 3.  Yes it was flawed but as far as the events with the company and Ripley's storyline are concerned it's a perfectly decent conclusion to what was then a trilogy.  It's Alien Resurrection that should be directly ignored with its "Gosh we are arriving on Earth" cliffhanger and a new Ripley who we've no connection with.  I don't get why there's such an obsession with focusing on Ripley again when her story is obviously over.  If a new action film is needed in the style of Aliens, they can make one.  They had that opportunity with Aliens vs Predator anyway, and messed it up.  That wasn't to do with a lack of Sigourney Weaver.
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Post by: Alberon on February 19, 2015, 12:19:58 PM
For all it's many many flaws I tend to prefer Alien Resurrection to Alien 3. Maybe what I don't like about the third one is the way it pisses all over the ending of Aliens by killing Newt off like that.

Whether Blomkamp's doodles represent a real idea of where Alien 5 is going or whether it just got him the job and a blank slate I can't see them following on from the fourth Alien film either. Resurrection was made eighteen years ago now and wasn't a huge hit on release. If they started the new film with Ripley being a half-alien clone most of the audience could go WTF?
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Post by: El Unicornio, mang on February 19, 2015, 04:15:47 PM
Reading his post I would say this probably isn't going to happen.

It's definitely happening. The art post he did had nothing to do with it, but possibly the interest it garnered caused Fox to sit up and take notice.

I'm excited for it, have liked his first two films a lot. The aliens will be CGI, but will actually look real if his other work is anything to go by.
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Post by: greenman on February 19, 2015, 09:29:00 PM
I remember reading a rejected Aliens sequal script from sometime in the late 80's/early 90's online a few years ago that wasn't that bad, mostly involving Hicks and Bishop on a marine space station with the company messing around and turning the Alien into a kind of airborne infection.

Not surprising Blomkamp is interested considering the look of a lot of his alien/future tech seems lifted from the loader in Aliens.
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Post by: Mango Chimes on February 20, 2015, 12:13:26 AM
They've ballsed up Alien too much by now.  Ripley's story is done.  I don't know who the audience is for a second Prometheus.  AND, iconic sure, but the Alien has looked shit in every film except for Aliens.  There's nothing exciting in those paintings; they just look like artwork from Aliens, which is a good film that's been made already.

I'd say I'm sceptical.
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Post by: Steven on February 20, 2015, 12:25:05 AM
Yep, they either need to re-invent the isolated insular paranoia claustrophobia angle or the balls out action hordes of visceral bastards coming at you format and visit it in a new way, which all the Alien/Aliens sequels have done and failed, or come up with an interesting new actually original angle for once.
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Post by: Mark Steels Stockbroker on February 22, 2015, 09:32:34 AM
I used to think "visiting the alien home planet / explaining the Space Jockey" were solid gold premises from which a classic scifi film as good as the original couldn't fail to emerge. I was proved wrong.

Ok, here's my idea. We redo Alien, but this time it's a spaceship of aliens who discover the wreckage of a human spaceship whose crew was killed by the Xenomorph.

One of the aliens tries to understand and reconstruct the humans and so he builds some sort of device that lets him take on human form and/or control a humanoid robot.

And... stuff.
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Post by: Steven on February 22, 2015, 09:43:02 AM
I used to think "visiting the alien home planet / explaining the Space Jockey" were solid gold premises from which a classic scifi film as good as the original couldn't fail to emerge. I was proved wrong.

It was a solid gold premise precisely because it was unexplained, that's what filled the entire thing with intrigue and mystery in that these elements were like some kind of ancient ineffable quasi-sci-fi Lovecraftian Ancient Ones of the cosmos, your mind can form some shape of the silhouette in the darkness that it's a technology based giant species but also hits those Giger elements of God-like estranged forms from the horrified recesses of the mind. It's all the gaps in explanation there that provide you with that hinterland curiosity that makes it so absorbing.

Could they have made a good film AND explain the origin story? Probably, but it was best a story left with some mystery, it didn't need explaining, we need myth in the world. But getting the Lost guy to write it was a fucking mistake, terrible by-numbers episodic TV writing, gah! My beautiful Elephantine Man turned into a big bald bouncer controlling things with a clarinet recital? Sod off. Doing a bait and switch with the two crashed ships? Fuck you.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: greenman on February 22, 2015, 10:24:42 AM
I used to think "visiting the alien home planet / explaining the Space Jockey" were solid gold premises from which a classic scifi film as good as the original couldn't fail to emerge. I was proved wrong.

Really though I think the main problem with Prometheus is that it doesn't follow though on this instead trying to shoehorn a typical Alien plot in. Theres was potential with the Shaw and David characters to do something more interesting but ultimately it ended up being differed to a sequel.
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Post by: biggytitbo on February 22, 2015, 04:31:37 PM
One really exciting idea for an Aliens sequel is to have it set in Leeds.
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Post by: Replies From View on February 22, 2015, 04:47:54 PM
One really exciting idea for an Aliens sequel is to have it set in Leeds.

The storyline could be that silhouettes of alien-esque beings are freaking out Leeds inhabitants, with them revealed in the end to be the silhouettes of bald-headed men and not xenomorphs at all.  (Not before loads of people die first though.)
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Post by: stunted on February 22, 2015, 09:53:34 PM
Anything with more than one alien (while not precluding the making of a good film) will diminish what the alien could be.

 I also don't see the sense of having a plot involving Ripley because what is point? and because it'll bog the film down in the same way Premetheous was bogged down by shoehorning and, as mobias put it, answering the questions no one wanted answered. A better film could be made if it was completely free of the constraints of the first ones and people are more likely to enjoy it on its own merits than tediously and unfavourably compare it to the earlier films or feel like the characters have been ruined for them.
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Post by: Replies From View on February 23, 2015, 12:46:45 PM
Through Alien Resurrection and two AVP films the alien has already been diminished to buggery, surely.  I can't think how they can undo what we've already viewed of it to turn it back into a creature of the shadows whose very appeal hangs on it being hardly seen.

They should come up with a new alien entirely, I think.  The Giger beast from Ridley Scott's Alien is done.
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Post by: Johnny Textface on February 23, 2015, 12:51:29 PM
The Giger beast from Ridley Scott's Alien is done.

The Giger beast IS Alien though - without it, you might as well call it something else.
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Post by: stunted on February 23, 2015, 02:58:55 PM
Through Alien Resurrection and two AVP films the alien has already been diminished to buggery, surely.  I can't think how they can undo what we've already viewed of it to turn it back into a creature of the shadows whose very appeal hangs on it being hardly seen.

They should come up with a new alien entirely, I think.  The Giger beast from Ridley Scott's Alien is done.
I agree to the extent that any continuation of Alien as it is now would be redundant. I assumed the new film was rebooting the franchise so a new film could be made that refocuses on the source material. Not necessarily an unseen creature but definitely a single and singular creature. I just think there's more potential with a single alien (speaking as someone who enjoys Alien through to Alien Resurrection to different extents and for different reasons). With one alien, the alien is more of a character and it's personal - it's not these are aliens are killing everyone, it's this alien wants to kill you and you can never understand why. Maybe I've just been playing too much Alien Isolation.[1] Something beyond our understanding is key to a lot of good scifi and I think it's that sense that's diminished when there is more than one alien.
 1. I haven't quite completed Alien Isolation but after you blow up the nest and go back to sneaking through the ship, the game really loses something. It's no longer you pitted against and trying to outwit this alien but just you against a bunch of aliens.
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Post by: Bhazor on February 23, 2015, 03:08:37 PM
Honestly, I think Alien has run its course by now. Horror is based on the unknown and unknowable. At this point we know everything about the fuckers. We've seen all their tricks, we know they're life cycle heck we've seen one give birth.

To me it would be like making a new Jason film and expecting it to be scary.
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Post by: stunted on February 23, 2015, 03:12:39 PM
Honestly, I think Alien has run its course by now. Horror is based on the unknown and unknowable. At this point we know everything about the fuckers. We've seen all their tricks, we know they're life cycle heck we've seen one give birth.

To me it would be like making a new Jason film and expecting it to be scary.

You're probably right. I happened to edit my post to say something along the lines of what you've said above about understanding. The reason I think there's a (small) chance that this could be good is because the alien from the first film is different from those in subsequent films so there's a chance it could be rebooted with a less known alien. That said this would probably be difficult/impossible to do without the film looking like a shit remake.
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Post by: Mango Chimes on February 23, 2015, 05:57:00 PM
The reason I think there's a (small) chance that this could be good is because the alien from the first film is different from those in subsequent films

Is it?  I know there's a load of zoology bollocks in the comics and that defining the species, but in the films you've got Alien-that-kills-people-for-some-reason (Alien, Alien 3) and Alien-that-grabs-people-to-gunk-them-up-and-put-an-egg-in-front-of-their-gob (Aliens).  I forget what happens in Resurrection (and the AvPs) but they're a mix of the two, right?

Oh, and big-fuck-off-Alien-that-lays-eggs-and-gets-mardy-if-you-disturb-it, obv.  That's in at least three of 'em.

Going back to one-Alien-hidden-in-a-place-ooh isn't exciting because we've done that twice already.  The proper-full-on-action-film option is still sort of open (despite Aliens reputation, it's actually pretty sedate and subtle,) and something we haven't ever seen is what happens when The Company does actually weaponise them.  But then you'd have trouble avoiding comparisons to Starship Troopers.

The thing I'm most interested in about the prospect of this film is how they can find an interesting angle because I can't see it.  (Ripley-again-but-this-time-with-some-stuff-on-her-face isn't it.)
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Post by: Steven on February 23, 2015, 06:16:08 PM
Is it?  I know there's a load of zoology bollocks in the comics and that defining the species, but in the films you've got Alien-that-kills-people-for-some-reason (Alien, Alien 3) and Alien-that-grabs-people-to-gunk-them-up-and-put-an-egg-in-front-of-their-gob (Aliens).  I forget what happens in Resurrection (and the AvPs) but they're a mix of the two, right?

They did have a deleted scene from the first film (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS5MtzrW1vU) where Dallas is cocooned which is presumably where Cameron got the initial idea for the whole hive structure idea.
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Post by: Replies From View on February 23, 2015, 06:25:00 PM
The Giger beast IS Alien though - without it, you might as well call it something else.

Well, quite.  They should do something else.
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Post by: El Unicornio, mang on February 23, 2015, 06:36:48 PM
They did have a deleted scene from the first film (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS5MtzrW1vU) where Dallas is cocooned which is presumably where Cameron got the initial idea for the whole hive structure idea.

It's also part of the director's cut, which ruins the continuity although I like it for it's creepiness.
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Post by: Replies From View on February 23, 2015, 06:39:53 PM
It's also part of the director's cut, which ruins the continuity although I like it for it's creepiness.

I wonder which version of 'Alien' Scott considers canon when it comes to Prometheus.  He probably doesn't care.
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Post by: Mango Chimes on February 23, 2015, 07:09:43 PM
Thinking about it, I never thought there were even two separate types between the films until reading some nerds going on about 'drones' and that.  I think I just accepted Aliens sometimes they stab people the head, other times they don't bother.  That cut scene kind of ties all that together better, although I guess you'd have to do some twisting to explain how the Alien Queen fits in.

Riddles definitely doesn't care what's what.  This is entirely reaching, but Prometheus seemed to be him using the connections with Alien to secure funding for his new stupid alien film, then making those connections as thin and meaningless as possible once he was up and running.

Like how he can't possibly make a film about Egyptians if it doesn't star a caucasian big name like Joel Edgerton, he can't make a film about his inexplicably angry giant men without pretending they were secretly hidden inside the obviously-not-meant-to-be-a-costume much-bigger-giant-men from Alien.
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Post by: Mango Chimes on February 23, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
[this accidental double-post has been cut from the theatrical release of this thread]
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Post by: mobias on February 23, 2015, 07:16:06 PM

They should come up with a new alien entirely, I think.  The Giger beast from Ridley Scott's Alien is done.

Yup definitely agree here. That was probably my biggest disappointment with Prometheus. In the run up to it there was a lot said about there being new creatures in it and how H.R. Giger had done designs for them. I remember Ridley Scott saying in an interview post release that they chose to use different designs because he wanted a fresh look for them and he actively didn't want the film to end up a total Giger-fest. That totally goes against what fans of the sereies wanted to see and where the magic of Alien actually comes from.

I also agree that the queen Alien idea that Cameron came up with for Aliens what utter crap, way too obvious. Its design was naff too. All those silly little arms and that insectoid look ruined it totally.

Some of the unused designs for Alien are really creepy. They should have used stuff like this in Prometheus.

(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-05/enhanced/webdr07/16/7/enhanced-buzz-wide-6759-1400241475-13.jpg)
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Post by: Sexton Brackets Drugbust on February 24, 2015, 02:39:09 AM
Other than brand recognition, and loyalty to a popular character, I reckon people still want to see more from Ripley coz she's always been a fairly well drawn female character, and the modern day replacement would likely be some austere, airbrushed spacebabe, square jawed, wise cracking future-hunk, or relentlessly sarcastic, angsty, Xtreme spaceteen with attitude.
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Post by: Mister Six on February 24, 2015, 03:35:10 AM
That totally goes against what fans of the sereies wanted to see and where the magic of Alien actually comes from.

To be honest, I find 'the fans' pissing and moaning because someone didn't cater to their every whim and desire a bit tedious. Artists shouldn't give a fuck about what 'the fans' want if they have a creative vision that pushes them in a different direction.

I admit that this argument would be more persuasive if Prometheus hadn't been a load of shit.
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Post by: Noodle Lizard on February 24, 2015, 03:38:48 AM
To be honest, I find 'the fans' pissing and moaning because someone didn't cater to their every whim and desire a bit tedious. Artists shouldn't give a fuck about what 'the fans' want if they have a creative vision that pushes them in a different direction.

I admit that this argument would be more persuasive if Prometheus hadn't been a load of shit.

Hah, admirable reconciliation.  It's the same way I feel about famous artists using Kickstarter so they're allowed total creative control over the product without interference from "the man" etc.  Unfortunately, the outcome is invariably quite shit.
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Post by: Steven on February 24, 2015, 04:25:19 AM
Surely your artistic integrity isn't compromised if you look at the new designs for Prometheus compared to Giger's and reasonably come to the conclusion they are utter fucking shit? Prometheus wasn't even an Alien film it just threw a similar design in at the end to justify stealing that franchises audience.

The sequels were too concerned with Ripley as a protagonist, she's meant to be a kind of accidental hero.. in that sense the real story is this creepy organism and the Weyland corporation. They kind of justified it in Aliens because she was the only one with any experience of the creature and was a Weyland pawn, but trying to squeeze her into every kind of iteration is silly.

In other news Louis CK wants to be the baddie in the new film and to die horribly (http://iwatchstuff.com/2015/02/louis-ck-volunteers-to-die-in-new-alien.php).
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Post by: greenman on February 24, 2015, 05:51:01 AM
Surely your artistic integrity isn't compromised if you look at the new designs for Prometheus compared to Giger's and reasonably come to the conclusion they are utter fucking shit? Prometheus wasn't even an Alien film it just threw a similar design in at the end to justify stealing that franchises audience.

The sequels were too concerned with Ripley as a protagonist, she's meant to be a kind of accidental hero.. in that sense the real story is this creepy organism and the Weyland corporation. They kind of justified it in Aliens because she was the only one with any experience of the creature and was a Weyland pawn, but trying to squeeze her into every kind of iteration is silly.

In other news Louis CK wants to be the baddie in the new film and to die horribly (http://iwatchstuff.com/2015/02/louis-ck-volunteers-to-die-in-new-alien.php).

That's her role in Alien but a lot of the success of Aliens really depends on her character becoming the real focus of the film.

The problem with Alien films since that point is IMHO that none of them have really broken away from trying to remake elements of the first two films. Again I would disagree that Prometheus was looking to answer the questions nobody wanted answered. Rather I would say its failing was that it didn't really answer its own questions instead diverting into yet another Alien/Aliens remake, it didn't show us the Alien/Space Jockey homeworld either. That's why I hold out some hope for a sequal as well as none of the Transformers/Trek hacks get near it.

If Blomkamp were involved in a sequal I think its a pretty safe bet it would be be a plot based around Weyland-Yutani or other evil corperate/government interest.
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Post by: Bad Ambassador on February 24, 2015, 11:57:49 AM
Sharlto Copley should be in it as the robot man.
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Post by: Canted_Angle on February 24, 2015, 12:20:16 PM
Keanu Reeves is a good robot man.
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Post by: Operty1 on February 24, 2015, 07:25:50 PM
I hadn't realised that they had already released a trailer, it certainly is a change of direction:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=woQQpjrkpEY

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Post by: El Unicornio, mang on February 26, 2015, 07:29:37 AM
I like aspects of Alien 3, but this is exactly what I was hoping for

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/02/26/blomkamps-alien-movie-will-ignore-alien-3-and-resurrection
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Post by: stunted on February 26, 2015, 09:24:13 AM
Surely Alien 3 had more of the stalker/horror thing going on than Aliens? This is just a ploy so they can have Ripley back; her story is done, move on.
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Post by: Mango Chimes on February 26, 2015, 11:58:17 AM
Mmm. It very much goes back to a monster stalking people in dark corridors. It also very much gives a definitive end to Ellen Ripley's story. He's describing Alien 3.

Someone should let him know it already exists.
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Post by: An tSaoi on February 26, 2015, 12:02:05 PM
So it's going to be like Superman Returns?
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Post by: glitch on February 26, 2015, 02:53:38 PM
Unnecessary fanwank shite. The one thing the Alien franchise needs less of is Ripley.
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Post by: Steven on February 26, 2015, 04:49:58 PM
Wouldn't Newt be still alive too then?

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ek5O2C3F5aY/SuKWbQvFDBI/AAAAAAAAAIg/bQANTy37YFA/s320/Carrie+Henn+today.jpg)

Wipley!

Going to be difficult to explain that one with the same actress isn't it? Something to do with her sleep stasis pod malfunctioning or something? I mostly age at night, mostly.
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Post by: El Unicornio, mang on February 26, 2015, 05:32:41 PM
The actors ageing should be easy enough to explain, going to be tricky to explain Bishop ageing though.

In the 1990 comic (which also takes place after Aliens, 10 years later), Newt is sent to a mental hospital and ends up in a relationship with an android named Butler.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliens_%28comic_book%29
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Post by: Johnny Textface on February 26, 2015, 06:21:40 PM
I think this ignoring sequels and doing new takes on previous stories is certainly more interesting than rebooting franchises.  If this is successful they could maybe redo the Star Wars prequels too :)

Other instances of this incredibly exciting but cynical money making ploy include.
Grease, The Exorcist, Highlander, Speed, Jaws, The Matrix... Bored now.
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Post by: greenman on February 26, 2015, 07:05:33 PM
I think this ignoring sequels and doing new takes on previous stories is certainly more interesting than rebooting franchises.  If this is successful they could maybe redo the Star Wars prequels too :)

Other instances of this incredibly exciting but cynical money making ploy include.
Grease, The Exorcist, Highlander, Speed, Jaws, The Matrix... Bored now.

The prequals and the Matrix maybe, the rest would probably best be just remade unless your going to take things in a very different direction with the original film as a setup. I'm actually quite supprised nobody has looked to remake Highlander.

My guess would be a Blomkamp Aliens sequal would just look to pickup years after that film with Ripley and maybe Hicks/Bishop involved again when the company tracks down some more Aliens or having to deal with them actually using them as a weapon.
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Post by: Johnny Textface on February 26, 2015, 07:15:04 PM
I'm actually quite supprised nobody has looked to remake Highlander.

They did a TV show but it was a bit shit.

the rest would probably best be just remade

Stop it.
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Post by: Alberon on February 27, 2015, 11:20:00 AM
I thought the Highlander series (while not high art) was an improvement on the films[1] most of the time.

A quote from Blomkamp has Den of Geek suggesting Alien 5 will actually turn out to be Alien 2 and a half.

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As he continues the press tour for his new movie, Chappie, he's clarified the comments that he made however, and he's told the site AlloCine that "I'm not trying to undo Alien 3 or Alien Resurrection". Instead, he added that "My favourites are the first two movies. I want to make a film that's connected to Alien and Aliens. That's my goal".

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/alien/34331/neill-blomkamp-im-not-trying-to-undo-alien-3

Don't buy it myself though.
 1. Even the first one.
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Post by: Bhazor on February 27, 2015, 11:44:08 AM
Y'know, it is amazing how long the remorseless Hollywood reboot engine has taken to reach Alien. I mean christ they've been scraping the bottom of the IP barrel for a couple years now but have only just started thinking about Alien. I guess Maniac, Footloose and Shortcircuit were higher priority.
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Post by: El Unicornio, mang on February 27, 2015, 08:49:45 PM
I thought the Highlander series (while not high art) was an improvement on the films[1] most of the time.

A quote from Blomkamp has Den of Geek suggesting Alien 5 will actually turn out to be Alien 2 and a half.

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/alien/34331/neill-blomkamp-im-not-trying-to-undo-alien-3

Don't buy it myself though.
 1. Even the first one.

So it's going to be two hours of Ripley and co. in their hypersleep chambers? Suddenly looking 30 years older? I can't think how they can do it if they don't ignore 3 and 4.
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Post by: ElTopo on February 27, 2015, 10:08:57 PM
Y'know, it is amazing how long the remorseless Hollywood reboot engine has taken to reach Alien. I mean christ they've been scraping the bottom of the IP barrel for a couple years now but have only just started thinking about Alien. I guess Maniac, Footloose and Shortcircuit were higher priority.

Well, Footloose was due a reboot, for obvious reasons[1].
 1. it was becoming loose
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Post by: glitch on March 10, 2015, 11:26:44 AM
I'm hoping the less-than-favourable response to CHAPPiE will kill this shit.
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Post by: greenman on March 10, 2015, 01:08:27 PM
I thought the Highlander series (while not high art) was an improvement on the films[1] most of the time.
 1. Even the first one.

All I can remember from it was Adrian Paul responding to any possible situation either a blank stoic expression or a cheesy smile.

It wouldn't take much to better any of the highlander sequals but the original still holds up pretty well, a fun mix of fantasy drama and MTV film making, probably the best example of the latter I can remember seeing.
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Post by: Hollow on March 14, 2015, 02:50:39 PM
For all it's many many flaws I tend to prefer Alien Resurrection to Alien 3. Maybe what I don't like about the third one is the way it pisses all over the ending of Aliens by killing Newt off like that.

Whether Blomkamp's doodles represent a real idea of where Alien 5 is going or whether it just got him the job and a blank slate I can't see them following on from the fourth Alien film either. Resurrection was made eighteen years ago now and wasn't a huge hit on release. If they started the new film with Ripley being a half-alien clone most of the audience could go WTF?

I've never got why people say that. So in between two and three a little girl dies due to a fire while she was in suspended animation...shit happens?

I think it starts the film as it is meant to go on. Alien 3 is about death, how would Newt have survived without Ripley at the end?...the company would have just shot her.

In reality, the actress would have been to old too play Newt and a recast would've been worse.

I mostly never liked Newt anyway...mostly.

I was way more pissed off they killed Hicks.

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Post by: Spiteface on March 14, 2015, 03:02:20 PM
I've never got why people say that. So in between two and three a little girl dies due to a fire while she was in suspended animation...shit happens?

I think it starts the film as it is meant to go on. Alien 3 is about death, how would Newt have survived without Ripley at the end?...the company would have just shot her.

In reality, the actress would have been to old too play Newt and a recast would've been worse.

I mostly never liked Newt...mostly.

Your first point... By the end of Aliens, you kind of have a family unit that you grow to care about - Ripley, Hicks & Newt.  Alien 3 kicks you in the balls for doing so by killing them in the opening credits. Other stuff you point out is fair enough actually, given the gap in time between the two films. I actually thought Alien 3 wasn't bad, really.

Resurrection is shite though, equally as bad as both AVP films (although at least it is better-lit than AVP2). Anyone who proclaims Joss Whedon as some kind of genius, I have to remind them he wrote that.[1]
 1. For the record, I was a big Buffy and (especially) Angel fan, and I adored Dollhouse. Firefly is grossly overrated though.
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Post by: Hollow on March 14, 2015, 03:08:41 PM
Yes I know it was a kick in the lady balls for Ripley...but that's the problem they left themselves by leaving the sequel for, was it eight years?

I like Alien 3 too...I used to like Resurrection but on a recent viewing saw it to be a pile of nothing with one good scene...I'm not gonna be a walking cliche by saying what that was...you already know.
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Post by: Replies From View on March 14, 2015, 03:50:11 PM
A follow-up to 'Aliens' in the style of the James Cameron film but without his involvement, using the "family" of Ripley, Hicks and Newt would have been disappointingly shite.  I'm surprised that so many people overlook this in their thoughts of what could have been.  'Alien3' was a far braver and more interesting turn to take, and did what needed to be done to keep the story about Ripley and the xenomorphs rather than Ripley and whoever survived from the previous films added together.
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Post by: Blumf on March 14, 2015, 05:18:08 PM
Why have they not done a Predator vs Space Marines film? Seems so obvious, and nearly impossible to get wrong (sure they'd manage but still)
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Post by: Replies From View on March 14, 2015, 05:59:13 PM
Why have they not done a Predator vs Space Marines film? Seems so obvious, and nearly impossible to get wrong (sure they'd manage but still)

Because often the best solution is the most obvious one, and people involved in the creative industries would much rather convolute everything with their own mucky handprints than go in the most obvious yet undoubtedly correct directions.

Thus we get Terminator Salvation rather than a film that comfortably fits as a simple sequel and prequel to the earlier Terminator films, and remakes of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and Alice in Wonderland that, as pointed out in the Dumbo remake thread, completely miss what should have been easy open goals.
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Post by: Canted_Angle on March 22, 2015, 04:28:50 PM
I thought 'PREDATORS' was the best movie in the franchise especially with crazy Larry Fishburn and the Samurai vs. Predator in the long grass. What's not to like?
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Post by: Replies From View on March 22, 2015, 05:09:49 PM
I thought 'PREDATORS' was the best movie in the franchise especially with crazy Larry Fishburn and the Samurai vs. Predator in the long grass. What's not to like?

The height of the grass.  It's not Honey I Shrunk The Kids.  They should have done it in shorter grass or a bowl of Cheerios or something.
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Post by: greenman on March 22, 2015, 06:16:45 PM
I thought 'PREDATORS' was the best movie in the franchise especially with crazy Larry Fishburn and the Samurai vs. Predator in the long grass. What's not to like?

It was about as good as a "lets do some cool stuff with Predators" film could be expected to be, the original simple action formula taken to extremes was a lot better and personally I preffer the "greatest hits of the 80's" style of Predator 2 as well.
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Post by: Canted_Angle on March 23, 2015, 01:28:08 AM
The height of the grass.  It's not Honey I Shrunk The Kids.  They should have done it in shorter grass or a bowl of Cheerios or something.

Funny you should say that. When I went to see it at the cinema just before they head into the long grass my friend said 'ahh, fuck the long grass' during a moment of silence which made a fair amount of the people in the cinema start laughing so the length of the grass holds a special place in my heart that it may not hold for others.
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Post by: Shameless Custard on July 19, 2015, 01:14:59 PM
Here's a little bit of concept art

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/alien-5/36210/alien-5-new-concept-art-revealed

I like the Assembly Cut of Alien 3, but ignoring the events of that film and Resurrection could be great if done right

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Blomkamp confirms that original Alien director Ridley Scott will be producing the movie, and that it won't 'tread on the toes of Prometheus 2'. "I changed the one thing [Ridley Scott] felt was bumping Prometheus a little bit", Blomkamp confirmed.

Scott likes the idea of what Blomkamp has come up with for the new Alien film, the piece confirms, and the new movie won't be called Alien 5. In fact, Neill Blomkamp already has a title in mind. "It's kinda quite bold, but it gives away too much if I say the title", he teased. And as for where the film will sit in the series? It's still not entirely clear. "Where it went after Aliens to me, as a fan, was wrong". The new film will be "the triplet of the first two. There's a shitload missing as a fan that I would want to see".

Guesses?

I'M SAYING ALIEN REBORN OR NEWT ALIVE
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Post by: Hobo on July 19, 2015, 02:02:57 PM
I'm going to guess at  Alien: Invasion  or some such crap.
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Post by: greenman on July 19, 2015, 02:05:11 PM
Alien: Adventures in Loader Land
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Post by: colacentral on July 19, 2015, 03:18:05 PM
Friendly Aliens
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Post by: Shameless Custard on July 19, 2015, 03:29:44 PM
Coffee Aliens
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Post by: olliebean on July 19, 2015, 03:36:03 PM
Allie
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Post by: Replies From View on July 19, 2015, 03:49:40 PM
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Blomkamp confirms that original Alien director Ridley Scott will be producing the movie, and that it won't 'tread on the toes of Prometheus 2'.

Phew!  Prometheus 2 is the one film I want ring-fenced in this entire franchise.
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Post by: Replies From View on July 19, 2015, 03:52:06 PM
Aliens Bumchummed
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Post by: newbridge on July 19, 2015, 07:31:55 PM
I just rewatched the original Alien for the first time in quite a while. Obviously it is great.

Perhaps I am dumb, but can someone explain to me why the alien seems to be taking a nap on the escape shuttle at the end?[1] Was it supposed to be injured or something?
 1. During the truly inspired gratuitous-Sigourney-Weaver-underwear scene, giving her the time to suit up and eject it
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Post by: Replies From View on July 19, 2015, 07:35:21 PM
Perhaps I am dumb, but can someone explain to me why the alien seems to be taking a nap on the escape shuttle at the end?[1] Was it supposed to be injured or something?
 1. During the truly inspired gratuitous-Sigourney-Weaver-underwear scene, giving her the time to suit up and eject it

I assumed it was just sleeping or something.  Should it have been constantly eating?
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Post by: Steven on July 19, 2015, 07:40:34 PM
There's a deleted scene where Ripley finds the alien has cocooned Dallas, so the life cycle has been achieved and having eaten the rest of the crew it was probably finding somewhere to go into stasis or something. The thing the always troubled me was how it manages to find the escape pod on a freighter that's about to self-destruct, obviously there's narrative reasons for tension but it's very fucking lucky. Had Ripley been into the pod before the escape? As I recall she goes back and forth for various things like for Jones the cat, maybe the alien was tracking her activity via whatever senses?
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Post by: Dr Rock on July 19, 2015, 07:47:41 PM
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n fact, Neill Blomkamp already has a title in mind. "It's kinda quite bold, but it gives away too much if I say the title", he teased. And as for where the film will sit in the series? It's still not entirely clear. "Where it went after Aliens to me, as a fan, was wrong". The new film will be "the triplet of the first two. There's a shitload missing as a fan that I would want to see".

He clearly means Earth or Aliens world. Both probably. Sisters, I'm just watching.
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Post by: newbridge on July 19, 2015, 07:58:53 PM
I assumed it was just sleeping or something.  Should it have been constantly eating?

No, but it's established earlier in the film that it enjoys killing any humans it comes across and yet it doesn't attack a defenseless Ripley. It had just mauled Lambert & Parker for no good reason. When she first notices it in the escape shuttle, its arm falls sort of limp like it is weakened or dying. Then when she is knocking it about with pressure vents or whatever it still appears unable to really attack her.

There's a deleted scene where Ripley finds the alien has cocooned Dallas, so the life cycle has been achieved and having eaten the rest of the crew it was probably finding somewhere to go into stasis or something. The thing the always troubled me was how it manages to find the escape pod on a freighter that's about to self-destruct, obviously there's narrative reasons for tension but it's very fucking lucky. Had Ripley been into the pod before the escape? As I recall she goes back and forth for various things like for Jones the cat, maybe the alien was tracking her activity via whatever senses?

Well she last encounters it on her way to, and presumably near, the escape shuttle (before running away to try and stop the self-destruct), so I assumed it was over in that area and then just happened to crawl into that pod.

Your answer makes sense somewhat. I just watched that part 5+ times and in my opinion it clearly appears to be weak or dying. Maybe the original intent was that its life cycle was concluding, or that it could only survive a short time in the shuttle atmosphere (or was in the process molting again?) -- any of which may not be entirely consistent with the later sequels and the attributes the aliens have in those movies.
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Post by: newbridge on July 19, 2015, 08:08:55 PM
Alternatively, maybe it was just because Ridley Scott made the wise decision of not showing too much of the alien costume as would have been required by the original script:

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        EXT. SPACE

        The Nostromo drifts farther away from the shuttle-craft.
        Finally becomes a small point of light.
        Then it blows up.
        Transforms into expanding orange fireball.
        Pieces of metal flying in all directions.
        And then the refinery explodes.
        200,000,000 tons of fuel blasting silently into the cosmos.

        INT. NARCISSUS

        The shockwave hits the shuttle craft.
        Jolting and rattling everything within.
        Then all is quiet.
        Ripley unhooks herself from her straps.
        Rises, and goes to the back of the escape craft.
        Stares out through the porthole.
        Face bathed in orange light.

        EXT. SPACE

        Piece of debris float past.
        The boiling fireball fades into nothingness.
        The Nostromo has ceased to exist.

        INT. NARCISSUS

        Ripley watching the final destiny of her ship and crew mates.
        A very long moment.
        Then, behind her, the lethal hand emerges from deep shadow. 
        The Alien has been in the shuttle-craft all along.
        The cat yowls.

        Ripley whirls.
        Finding herself facing the Creature.

        Ripley's first thought is for the flamethrower.
        It lies on the deck next to the Alien.
        Next she glances around for a place to hide.
        Her eye falls on a small locker containing a pressure suit.
        The door standing open.
        She begins to edge toward the compartment.
        The Creature stands.
        Comes for her.
        Ripley dives for the open door.
        Hurls herself inside.
        Slams it shut.

        INT. LOCKER

        A clear glass panel in the door.
        The Alien puts its head up to the window.
        Peers in at Ripley.
        Their faces only two inches apart.
        The Alien looking at Ripley almost in curiosity.
        The moaning of the cat distracts it.

        INT. NARCISSUS

        The Alien moves to the pressurized cat box.
        Bends down and peers inside.
        The cat yowls louder as his container is lifted.
   
        INT. LOCKER

        Ripley knocks on the glass.
        Trying to distract the Creature from the cat.
        The Alien's face is instantly back at the window.
        Getting no more interference from her, the Creature
        returns to the cat box.
        Ripley looks around.
        Sees the pressure suit.
        Quickly begins to pull it on.

        INT. NARCISSUS

        The Alien picks up the cat box.
        Shakes it.
        The cat moans.

        INT. LOCKER

        Ripley is halfway into a pressure suit.

        INT. NARCISSUS

        The Creature throws the cat box down.
        Very hard.
        Picks it up again.
        Hammers it against the wall.
        Then jams it into a crevice.
        Begins to pound the container into the opening.
        The cat now beyond all hysteria.
   
        INT. LOCKER

        Ripley pulls on the helmet, latches it into place.
        Turns the oxygen valve.
        With a hiss, the suit fills itself.
        A rack on the wall contains a long metal rod.
        Ripley peels off the rubber tip.
        Revealing a sharp metal point.

        INT. SPACE SUIT LOCKER

        Ripley inhales.
        Kicks the door open.
   
        INT. NARCISSUS

        The Creature rises.
        Faces the locker.
        Catches the steel shaft through its midriff.
        The Alien clutches at the spear.
        Yellow acid begins to flow from the wound.
        Before the fluid can touch the floor...
        Ripley reaches back and pulls the switch.
        Blows the rear hatch.
        The atmosphere in the shuttle immediately sucked into space.
        The bleeding creature along with it.
        Ripley grabs a strut to keep from being pulled out.
        The Alien shoots past her.
        Grab's Ripley's ankle with an appendage.

        EXT. NARCISSUS

        Ripley now hanging halfway out of the shuttle-craft.
        The Alien clinging to her leg.
        She kicks at it with her free foot.
        The Creature holds fast.
   
        INT. NARCISSUS

        Ripley looks for any salvation.
        Grabs the hatch level.
        Yanks it.
        The hatch slams shut, closing Ripley safely inside.
   
        EXT. NARCISSUS

        The Alien still outside the shuttle-craft.
        Within the vacuum of space.
        The top of its appendage mashed into the closed hatch.

        INT. NARCISSUS

        Acid starts to foam along the base of the hatch.
        Eats away at the metal.
        Ripley stumbles forward to the controls.
        Pushes the ram jet lever.

        EXT. NARCISSUS - OUTER SPACE
   
        The Creature struggling.
        Jet exhaust located at the rear of the craft.
        The engines belch flame for a few seconds.
        Then shut off.
        Incinerating, the Alien tumbles slowly away into space.

        INT. NARCISSUS

        Ripley hurries to the rear hatch.
        Peers through the glass.

        EXT. OUTER SPACE

        The burned mass of the Alien drifts slowly away.
        Writhing, smoking.
        Tumbling into the distance.
        Pieces dropping off.
        The shape bloats, then bursts.
        Spray of particles in all directions.
        Then smoldering fragments dwindle into infinity.

        INT. NARCISSUS - LATER

        Now repressurized.
        Ripley is seated in the control chair.
        Calm and composed, almost cheerful.
        Cat purring in her lap.
        She dictates into a recorder.

                                 RIPLEY
                  I should reach the frontier in
                  another five weeks.  With a
                  little luck the network will
                  pick me up...This is Ripley,
                  W564502460H, executive officer,
                  last survivor of the commercial
                  starship Nostromo signing off.
                         (pause)
                  Come on cat.

        She switches off the recorder.
        Stares into space.

        EXT. OUTER SPACE

        The shuttle-craft Narcissus sails into the distance.

                                                FADE OUT




                                THE END
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Post by: Replies From View on July 19, 2015, 08:12:49 PM
No, but it's established earlier in the film that it enjoys killing any humans it comes across and yet it doesn't attack a defenseless Ripley. It had just mauled Lambert & Parker for no good reason. When she first notices it in the escape shuttle, its arm falls sort of limp like it is weakened or dying. Then when she is knocking it about with pressure vents or whatever it still appears unable to really attack her.



Your answer makes sense somewhat. I just watched that part 5+ times and in my opinion it clearly appears to be weak or dying. Maybe the original intent was that its life cycle was concluding, or that it could only survive a short time in the shuttle atmosphere (or was in the process molting again?) -- any of which may not be entirely consistent with the later sequels and the attributes the aliens have in those movies.

I honestly just assumed it was sleepy.  Ever been suddenly woken out of a deep sleep on a small shelf-like bed area?   You go "Aaargh what the" and fall off the bed thing, arms flailing, not being able to comprehend what a light source even is.
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Post by: Steven on July 19, 2015, 08:20:00 PM
It crawled in there to have a sly wank, then when Ripley turned up in her pants it was jackpot, then when she noticed he was shuffling one off in there it was just acting embarrassed before lashing out.
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Post by: Bad Ambassador on July 19, 2015, 09:03:17 PM
Aliens II: Cowboys and Aliens.
I saw the Assembly Cut of Alien3 recently, and it's now my favourite Alien film.
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Post by: Dex Sawash on July 20, 2015, 12:16:48 AM
Alien Dogs (2015) (2016)
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Post by: newbridge on July 20, 2015, 03:13:51 AM
Watched Aliens. It was fine. I thought they ruined the mystique of the original alien creature. The movie had none of the suspense or eeriness of the original, and was patently ridiculous at times, like the mechanized-suit fight and Ripley hanging onto a ladder to avoid getting sucked into the vacuum of space.

Too many plot holes for my liking. How did "the Company" even know about the aliens to put their alleged plan into motion? Why did the Company guy agree to go on such a dangerous mission himself? Why was it so important that Ripley went???

Plus, it had a kid. Cats > kids in movies.

Next up: Alien 3 and the fourth one.
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Post by: Shameless Custard on July 20, 2015, 05:49:58 AM
If you can, watch the Assembly Cut of Alien 3

Faaaaaaaaarrrrrrrr superior
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Post by: El Unicornio, mang on July 20, 2015, 01:11:28 PM

Too many plot holes for my liking. How did "the Company" even know about the aliens to put their alleged plan into motion? Why did the Company guy agree to go on such a dangerous mission himself? Why was it so important that Ripley went???



Did you watch the director's cut? It explains it better. The family went there with the understanding that there could be something valuable there that they could keep. The company would known about the aliens because of Ripley's testimony, although it wouldn't be until the bloke came back with the one on his face that they knew for sure. Ripley went purely because she needed to be in the film, although they make out that she is needed as an adviser since she had experience with the aliens.

The last 30 mins of Aliens are the most exciting in film history, imho. Genuinely stressful even after my 100th or so viewing.

Alien 3 is pretty bad but looks quite good compared to the 4th one.
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Post by: Harpo Speaks on July 20, 2015, 01:17:12 PM
The movie had none of the suspense or eeriness of the original

The Motion Tracker IS suspense.
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Post by: greenman on July 20, 2015, 01:56:58 PM
A follow-up to 'Aliens' in the style of the James Cameron film but without his involvement, using the "family" of Ripley, Hicks and Newt would have been disappointingly shite.  I'm surprised that so many people overlook this in their thoughts of what could have been.  'Alien3' was a far braver and more interesting turn to take, and did what needed to be done to keep the story about Ripley and the xenomorphs rather than Ripley and whoever survived from the previous films added together.

I remember reading a potential script for an Aliens style follow up where Ripley and Newt don't feature at all being sent back to Earth safely when the Sulaco gets back to a military space station. The plot basically revolves about the company having influence/control of the military and getting Alien DNA samples from the ship whilst a communist separatist movement do the same earlier from the Sulaco in transit. The DNA experiments make the Aliens air born growing inside people and they take over the station with only Hicks/Bishop escaping with a space commie ship after there base had suffered the same fate.
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Post by: newbridge on July 20, 2015, 11:13:28 PM
Did you watch the director's cut? It explains it better. The family went there with the understanding that there could be something valuable there that they could keep. The company would known about the aliens because of Ripley's testimony, although it wouldn't be until the bloke came back with the one on his face that they knew for sure. Ripley went purely because she needed to be in the film, although they make out that she is needed as an adviser since she had experience with the aliens.

The last 30 mins of Aliens are the most exciting in film history, imho. Genuinely stressful even after my 100th or so viewing.

Alien 3 is pretty bad but looks quite good compared to the 4th one.

I think maybe I misinterpreted it because it seems almost no time passes between Ripley's rescue and the mission back (in which case the Company's plan makes no sense), but I guess it's implied that a substantial period of time passes (during which the Company tells the colonists to go look and the base is lost). I guess that leads to the further inference that they wanted Ripley to go in order to kill her (i.e. getting an alien to use her as a host) so that nobody else would know about the aliens in the first place. Ok, fair enough, James Cameron - could have spelled that out a little clearer in the film, but fair enough.

I will say this for Aliens, the special effects are fantastic.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Mango Chimes on July 21, 2015, 01:06:10 AM
He clearly means Earth or Aliens world.

Here's your Comic-Con trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk_x9W1xKng
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: mothman on July 21, 2015, 07:17:44 PM
Shittest teaser trailer ever? What was the slogan going to be for the third film? "... SOME people CAN hear you scream, but they're convicts so don't count?"
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: newbridge on July 23, 2015, 03:08:36 AM
I'm 15 minutes into Alien 3, they've killed off the small child that Ripley spent the entire climax of the last movie saving, and now they're cutting open the dead child's rib cage. That's some expert level mean-spiritedness!
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Post by: newbridge on July 23, 2015, 04:48:04 AM
This movie is some bullshit. Absolutely terrible.
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Post by: Mango Chimes on July 23, 2015, 01:14:18 PM
Shittest teaser trailer ever?

Nah, that teaser's fantastic. Only problem was that the film it was teasing didn't exist.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: El Unicornio, mang on July 23, 2015, 02:22:40 PM
Good documentary about the tortuous making of Alien3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hip868rxkg4

This 3-hour Aliens making of is worth a watch too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWLKwrmYd6A
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Post by: stunted on July 23, 2015, 02:55:31 PM
I thought the original Alien3 was well better that the assembly cut. Apparently I was only 12 when it came out but I don't see that as any reason to distrust my opinion.
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Post by: El Unicornio, mang on July 23, 2015, 03:04:43 PM
I think so too. There are a ton of differences between the two, and also the fact that it's 30 minutes longer is a problem. It just seems to drag on and on.

http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Alien_3_Assembly_Cut
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Post by: SavageHedgehog on July 23, 2015, 07:57:58 PM
The assembly cut doesn't feel like a real film to me, with that cheapo music they use to fill in the previously unused scenes. Plus there's a lot of useless stuff like that idiot going on about "the dragon" (no, it's an Alien, like in that film from thirteen years earlier, Alien), and they cut out what for me is the most memorable moment of the film the chestbuster bursting out of Ripley as she falls to her death. I've heard some people who think that the theatrical version of the scene was cheesy, and they prefer the restraint of the assembly cut but fuck those guys.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: newbridge on July 24, 2015, 02:04:02 AM
I watched the theatrical version because I didn't want to see 30 extra minutes of unfinished footage. David Fincher's having a bit of a laugh if he's blaming the movie's failure on studio intervention. It was just poorly directed: case in point, the baffling, never-ending "climax" where the inmates are running around in some kind of lead-casting maze. One of the most poorly filmed action sequences I can recall. Beyond a basic understanding that they wanted to trap the alien somewhere and pour lead on it, I defy anyone on first viewing to explain what the hell is actually going on in that sequence.

The script was the real culprit though. Is it so hard to write an action movie featuring the alien(s)? I could write a fucking amazing alien script, this one was total crap.

I thought the acting was actually pretty good all things considered.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: El Unicornio, mang on July 24, 2015, 12:40:19 PM
I watched the theatrical version because I didn't want to see 30 extra minutes of unfinished footage. David Fincher's having a bit of a laugh if he's blaming the movie's failure on studio intervention.

The assembly cut also features a much longer/bloodier Newt autopsy, so you'll be glad you missed that.

My main issue with Alien 3 is that the characters are just all so horribly annoying/unsympathetic. I don't even like Ripley that much in the film. The only character I really liked that much is Charles Dance, but he's killed off quite early on. And maybe the black preacher bloke. I think it's actually well made, as far as cinematography and whatnot goes. Some really cool shots and the steadicam footage through the corridors is ace. I don't think Fincher could have saved it even if he had complete control, but I do think it could have been a lot worse. Like, Alien Resurrection worse.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: newbridge on July 25, 2015, 04:14:25 AM
Like, Alien Resurrection worse.

I just watched it and greatly prefer Alien: Resurrection to Alien 3. The script is a bit dodgy in places, but at least you get a sense of Jean-Pierre Jeunet's cinematic style and the movie has some interesting bits. Alien 3 had no redeeming value to me, it felt like everyone involved was being held at gunpoint and told to "make an Alien movie" no matter how lifeless and pointless it all felt (which, based on the production history, isn't half wrong).

#4 could have used a rewrite explaining how exactly cloning a dead host to a parasitic life form allows you to also clone the parasite and/or create a new hybrid form of life, but whatever.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Default to the negative on July 25, 2015, 05:29:21 AM
I agree you with you about that.

'Alien 3' attempted the sort of gritty cyberpunk that was popular at the time - even bringing William Gibson on board at one point - but it didn't succeed. It came off as really... dare I say cheap? I know the film had a $50m budget, but the end product is really naff and downmarket. It's like a nerdy fan-film; like a bunch of English engineering students and Red Dwarf enthusiasts getting together to make a You Tube adaptation of their favourite 2000AD comic strip. That's what 'Alien 3' is like.

Whereas 'Alien: Resurrection', for all its flaws, can at least hold its head high and say that it looks and feels like a real Hollywood movie.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: greenman on July 25, 2015, 07:21:35 AM
I agree you with you about that.

'Alien 3' attempted the sort of gritty cyberpunk that was popular at the time - even bringing William Gibson on board at one point - but it didn't succeed. It came off as really... dare I say cheap? I know the film had a $50m budget, but the end product is really naff and downmarket. It's like a nerdy fan-film; like a bunch of English engineering students and Red Dwarf enthusiasts getting together to make a You Tube adaptation of their favourite 2000AD comic strip. That's what 'Alien 3' is like.

Whereas 'Alien: Resurrection', for all its flaws, can at least hold its head high and say that it looks and feels like a real Hollywood movie.

Gibson's was I believe at least partly behind the space commie script that I mention above that's out there somewhere on the net.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: El Unicornio, mang on July 25, 2015, 01:03:25 PM
I just watched it and greatly prefer Alien: Resurrection to Alien 3. The script is a bit dodgy in places, but at least you get a sense of Jean-Pierre Jeunet's cinematic style and the movie has some interesting bits. Alien 3 had no redeeming value to me, it felt like everyone involved was being held at gunpoint and told to "make an Alien movie" no matter how lifeless and pointless it all felt (which, based on the production history, isn't half wrong).

#4 could have used a rewrite explaining how exactly cloning a dead host to a parasitic life form allows you to also clone the parasite and/or create a new hybrid form of life, but whatever.

My main issue is that it had that kind of slightly wacky, comic book style that some French directors use when they make Hollywood films. I just don't think it suits the Alien universe at all. There are even some actual comedy bits that belong in a Naked Gun movie, like when he sees the spider. Plus the characters are all awful. I just really hate it, not just as an Alien sequel but as a film. The only thing I would say it has over Alien3 is more variety in the visuals, less of the constant grimness.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: newbridge on July 25, 2015, 03:18:37 PM
My main issue is that it had that kind of slightly wacky, comic book style that some French directors use when they make Hollywood films. I just don't think it suits the Alien universe at all. There are even some actual comedy bits that belong in a Naked Gun movie, like when he sees the spider. Plus the characters are all awful. I just really hate it, not just as an Alien sequel but as a film. The only thing I would say it has over Alien3 is more variety in the visuals, less of the constant grimness.

It feels very distinctively Jean-Pierre Jeunet though, it has the same dark-comedic surrealism. Not just because of the actor crossover, but you can tell it's the same guy who made Delicatessen and City of Lost Children.

Granted, thats a million miles from the style of the original Alien, but so was Aliens in my opinion. I think Alien 1, 2, & 4 are all good because they bring entirely different takes to the franchise, not necessarily because they are internally consistent.

Plus, as bad as the script is at points (blame Joss Whedon), I thought the ambiguous characterization of hybrid-Ripley was actually fairly interesting.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Mark Steels Stockbroker on July 26, 2015, 03:55:50 PM
I thought the point was that all the residues of Ripley they found also contained Alien DNA, and they could only incubate it attached to a host, so that's why it was done that way.

I've always found it more mysterious how chestbursters grow to full adult size so quickly.
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Post by: Spiteface on July 26, 2015, 04:01:20 PM
I think the mystery is part of the appeal with the Alien series, and there's still gaps in the "Life cycle" of them. There's never really been a small alien with legs has there? I mean one that's a bit more matured than a chestburster, but not quite fully grown. Usually they come out of the host, disappear and are next seen full size. Sometimes you'd see a supply of food that had been raided, but never that phase inbetween with the things.

Which is one reason to hate Prometheus, for trying to explain the Space Jockey.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Mango Chimes on July 26, 2015, 05:10:01 PM
Good documentary about the tortuous making of Alien3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hip868rxkg4

Interesting bit in that (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hip868rxkg4&feature=youtu.be&t=26m13s,) where Sigourney Weaver, on the set of Alien 3, says that writers other than Giler, Hill and Cameron would write Ripley (badly) as a "tough, obnoxious woman".

Jump forward five years, and she's playing a version of Ripley who's a stone-faced, Alien-shagging hard-arse with super-human strength and acid blood.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Deanjam on July 26, 2015, 06:24:58 PM
I've always found it more mysterious how chestbursters grow to full adult size so quickly.

In Alan Dean Foster's 'Alien' novel it raids the ships food supplies and also - if I recall correctly - can consume certain elements of the ship itself. That's why it grows so fast. It also begins to create a new egg out of the remains of Brett's body.

It's a whole different creature to the space bug of Cameron's film.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Deanjam on July 26, 2015, 06:30:16 PM
Re the discussion above of why the Alien hides in the shuttle at the end of the first film. I think it's implied that the creature somehow knows the Nostromo is getting destroyed and so hitches a ride with Ripley. Scott has said that he originally wanted to end the film with the alien killing Ripley and then speaking with her voice into the communication system. There was a lot of interesting ideas floating around the makers of the first film.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Pdine on July 27, 2015, 02:38:52 PM
Surely what is needed is something that explores what the Alien's cock is like? Why are people skirting this issue? I'm hoping for a big cock, possibly with a smaller cock that pops out of the end.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Replies From View on July 27, 2015, 08:36:39 PM
The assembly cut doesn't feel like a real film to me, with that cheapo music they use to fill in the previously unused scenes. Plus there's a lot of useless stuff like that idiot going on about "the dragon" (no, it's an Alien, like in that film from thirteen years earlier, Alien), and they cut out what for me is the most memorable moment of the film the chestbuster bursting out of Ripley as she falls to her death. I've heard some people who think that the theatrical version of the scene was cheesy, and they prefer the restraint of the assembly cut but fuck those guys.

I tend to agree with this.  There's also the fact that, if the implication is that the alien creature has borrowed some DNA from its host in order to become a better predator of them, it makes more sense having come from a dog rather than a lumbering ox.  The sense I get is that the assembly cut tries to be as different as possible to the theatrical version, which means including the ox scene as a curio rather than the dog one for its consistency.


I love Alien3 though.  The nihilistic approach - killing everyone except Ripley from the second film, then wiping out all the new characters just as we were growing to like them - was a brave decision, allowing the alien films to finish (if you ignore Alien Resurrection, which is lowest common denominator Hollywood guff, and a transparent attempt to eke more sequels out of a franchise that needed no more) with Ripley alone against the alien again, rather than a tedious family of action adventurers going around, guns ablazing, saving the universe for sequel after sequel.  It's nice that those who disagree with me will get their own wish now, though.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: greenman on July 27, 2015, 09:26:43 PM
Alien Resurrection does do a good job of showing what a pulpy hack Wheden really is, the third film has some weaknesses and does crap on the 2nd a bit too much for my liking but does have a good story and a good selection of characters.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: The Masked Unit on July 28, 2015, 02:18:40 PM
My uncle Ian's seen this already (works at WH Smiths and gets to see all the films early because it's in the films department) and he reckons its' well good. Ripley actually gets off with an alien and you see its knob and everything, and then she kills it with a rocket launcher but she's already fucked by that point, cos he's got her pregnant and she has to kill her own baby when it comes out her stomach, and she's well pissed off about it.
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Post by: The Masked Unit on July 28, 2015, 02:23:41 PM
Oh yeah he's got Ghostbusters 3 as well and guess what, yeah, after they finished making it they were all watching it and noticed a ghost in it that they didn't recognise, not even the computer graphics bloke who done it all, and everyone was like "Where the fucks that from?" and it turns out it was actually a real ghost that got on the set and was floating about in the background just like well takin the piss.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: El Unicornio, mang on July 28, 2015, 02:30:02 PM
Heh, I had an Aliens-obsessed friend at school who said he had a special copy of Aliens on video that had extra scenes (not the director's cut, it was some other shit he made up) but he wasn't allowed to let anyone see it, and that his Uncle had made the Aliens arcade machine, and he brought an Aliens comic in which he said was only available in the USA, even though the price on the cover was in GBPs and was in the local newsagents. Last time I saw him he was wearing an Aliens t-shirt under a long raincoat, and sunglasses. Probably still telling Aliens related lies. His upper lip bumfluff was always slightly moist too. Proper knobhead.
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Post by: batwings on July 28, 2015, 03:26:03 PM
Before Alien 3 was released, there was some bloke I knew who claimed to have a pirate copy of it and that it was all about the Aliens coming to earth and attacking a city. He said it was called Aliens: Invasion Earth and he had it on a VHS tape that he somehow kept forgetting to bring with him, despite always promising to let us borrow it.
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Post by: Bobby Treetops on July 29, 2015, 10:58:14 PM
New page twat...yes!

This is obviously the best Alien sequel (and NSFW)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRYbS4AypxE

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Post by: Bobby Treetops on July 29, 2015, 11:25:24 PM
In the unlikely event that anyone is interested in the Alien 2 trailer

Quote
Alien Terror, also known as Alien 2 and Strangers, is a 1980 science fiction film, written and directed by Ciro Ippolito before the trademark Alien was registered. It was released following the success of the 1979 film Alien as an unofficial sequel, albeit having little connection to the film.

The film company soon had to rename it Alien Terror for obvious reason and the copy I saw had Alien Terror badly superimposed over the original name in the title sequence. I can also report apart from some rather amusing dubbing and special effects, it's a right old load of shit[1]
 1. And not a patch on 'Rats:Night of Terror'
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Post by: Replies From View on July 30, 2015, 05:25:31 PM
It looks great to be honest.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Harpo Speaks on August 16, 2015, 01:02:10 PM
Was at a talk by Michael Biehn yesterday, while he's talked to Blomkamp, he's still yet to see a script or sign a contract for the film. Did confirm that the idea was to disregard 3 and Resurrection and follow directly on from Aliens.
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Post by: Sexton Brackets Drugbust on August 16, 2015, 01:31:54 PM
Catching up with this thread, so I know discussion's moved on, but regarding the alien dozing in the escape pod at the end of the original Alien: I'm pretty sure one aspect of Giger's initial concept for the creature that got lost along the way, was that it was relatively short lived and focussed all its efforts on reproduction because of this.

Pretty certain that there's an interview of him somewhere explaining that the flesh coloured chestburster's evolution into the full grown's dark bio mechanical skin was intended to be evocative of bruising and atrophy. The Alien we see at the end of film 1 is therefore a knackered old geezer having 40-winks or something.
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Post by: newbridge on August 16, 2015, 03:43:15 PM
Catching up with this thread, so I know discussion's moved on, but regarding the alien dozing in the escape pod at the end of the original Alien: I'm pretty sure one aspect of Giger's initial concept for the creature that got lost along the way, was that it was relatively short lived and focussed all its efforts on reproduction because of this.

Pretty certain that there's an interview of him somewhere explaining that the flesh coloured chestburster's evolution into the full grown's dark bio mechanical skin was intended to be evocative of bruising and atrophy. The Alien we see at the end of film 1 is therefore a knackered old geezer having 40-winks or something.

That makes sense, and does seem to be what the original movie is implying (i.e. the alien grows to its adult form in a matter of hours and by the escape pod scene does appear to be dying/almost-dead -- that was my takeaway anyways)
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Post by: El Unicornio, mang on October 16, 2015, 02:33:42 PM
Squeeeeee!

https://instagram.com/p/83mcFbqhBk/
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Post by: mothman on October 16, 2015, 06:00:50 PM
Hmm. They've retained the pump mechanism/cage from the SPAS-12, but the main part of the rifle obviously isn't based on a Thompson submachinegun anymore - well, the pistol-grip is the same as on the original 1986 props but the barrel is drastically different. Not sure what it is, a HK maybe? But that off-the-shelf holographic dot sight? Ugh, please.

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/M41A_Pulse_Rifle
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Post by: phantom_power on October 16, 2015, 07:26:54 PM
Alien Resurrection does do a good job of showing what a pulpy hack Wheden really is, the third film has some weaknesses and does crap on the 2nd a bit too much for my liking but does have a good story and a good selection of characters.

I am not sure you can blame Whedon too much for Alien Resurrection. It got almost completely re-written when he left the project by various writers. Like it or not Whedon has a pretty distinct writing style and none of that is on display in AR
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Post by: Famous Mortimer on October 17, 2015, 08:12:11 AM
In the unlikely event that anyone is interested in the Alien 2 trailer

The film company soon had to rename it Alien Terror for obvious reason and the copy I saw had Alien Terror badly superimposed over the original name in the title sequence. I can also report apart from some rather amusing dubbing and special effects, it's a right old load of shit[1]
 1. And not a patch on 'Rats:Night of Terror'
Now, you don't have to rely on Bobby Treetops word, you can see "Alien 2 On Earth" for yourself, for free:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_qogAwkeYw
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Post by: Replies From View on October 17, 2015, 04:05:45 PM
the SPAS-12

Lol, one for the playground.
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Post by: Glebe on November 24, 2015, 02:32:10 AM
http://collider.com/alien-5-story-newt-michael-biehn/

Really hope this gets made in the end.
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Post by: Shaky on November 24, 2015, 05:03:17 AM
http://collider.com/alien-5-story-newt-michael-biehn/

Really hope this gets made in the end.

I don't think this is going to happen, to be honest. They'll churn out Sir Ridley's prequels for as long as the old duffer is still around (provided they make money, of course). The Oscar buzz for The Martian has likely allowed him even more control over the direction of the franchise and I get the feeling he doesn't really want Blomkamp and co stealing his thunder.

Then we'll be years down the track and a reboot of some sort will appear.
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Post by: greenman on November 24, 2015, 05:32:09 AM
I am not sure you can blame Whedon too much for Alien Resurrection. It got almost completely re-written when he left the project by various writers. Like it or not Whedon has a pretty distinct writing style and none of that is on display in AR

The problem I would say is that the core of Whedon remains, the empty geekishness of the whole thing full of cheap genre clichés.
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Post by: phantom_power on November 24, 2015, 11:36:50 AM
The problem I would say is that the core of Whedon remains, the empty geekishness of the whole thing full of cheap genre clichés.

I would argue that none of that describes Whedon's style but horses for courses I suppose. I would have thought Whedon was more known for subverting genre cliches rather than following them. His career was made by Buffy, a prime example of that subversion
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Post by: Glebe on January 31, 2016, 07:48:47 AM
*bump*

Looks like Noomi Rapace ain't gonna be Alien: Covenant (https://au.movies.yahoo.com/news/a/30691482/ridley-scott-noomi-rapace-wont-be-in-alien-covenant), ffs.
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Post by: Shameless Custard on January 31, 2016, 08:03:32 AM
Well, that's the last reason to watch it gone. What a balls up
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Post by: Replies From View on January 31, 2016, 08:56:07 AM
*bump*

Looks like Noomi Rapace ain't gonna be Alien: Covenant (https://au.movies.yahoo.com/news/a/30691482/ridley-scott-noomi-rapace-wont-be-in-alien-covenant), ffs.

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The 78-year-old British filmmaker is adamant he can make 'Covenant' a big hit because he's "always" enjoyed great success at the box office.

Speaking to The Guardian newspaper, the acclaimed director - whose other credits include 'The Martian', 'Blade Runner', for which he is working on a sequel, and 'Gladiator' - said: "You prove how reliable you are. Which I am, I always have been - it's part of my thing ... You want big films and stories to keep people going to the cinema. It's up to us to keep the bar raised. That's the trick. I've always done that.

He continued: "It is brain surgery! It is bloody brain surgery! You're putting together a whole group of people, you're trying to budget as accurately as you can and, at the end of it, you've got to sell a lot of tickets. That's more complex than banking - but a few of us manage to pull it off."

Am I reading this wrong, or is he essentially saying "this film will be a success because my films always are"?  I'd venture that that reasoning is borderline senile.
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Post by: Mark Steels Stockbroker on January 31, 2016, 09:09:17 AM
Blade Runner wasn't a great success in 1982. It's the ultimate slow burn, building its reputation through the 80s and then getting officially lauded as a Great Thing in the 90s, after which it became a very profitable Cinema Classic to milk through endless repackaging.

If you don't like "cheap genre cliches" then call them "tropes", and they don't sound so bad.
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Post by: Shameless Custard on January 31, 2016, 09:17:41 AM
Ridley Scott has always been someone who takes great pride in the undeniable fact that nearly all his films not only make their money back, but usually make a tidy profit too. The joy of film-making comes somewhere below that priority. So his comments might seem a bit arrogant written down, but he is justified in saying it

Studios tend to go for directors like Scott first, as he's easy to communicate and work with, won't go over time and over budget, and his films make a profit. There's no doubt he's really successful in a business sense

I wonder if he actually enjoys making films these days. He always seems really dour and bored in interviews, and he's almost become a sausage-making machine in the way he churns them out. You wonder if he's actually got any, or ever has had any passion projects in him he really wants to do, beyond the usual lazy studio shite
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Post by: greenman on January 31, 2016, 01:55:09 PM
I would argue that none of that describes Whedon's style but horses for courses I suppose. I would have thought Whedon was more known for subverting genre cliches rather than following them. His career was made by Buffy, a prime example of that subversion

I don't really see subversion of cliché's in Whedons work so much as a heavy use of them combined with some originality in terms of specifics and a good deal of meta humour.
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Post by: phantom_power on February 01, 2016, 12:36:31 PM
Buffy is a subversion of the cliche of damsels in distress. Hush is a subversion of the cliche that Whedon is just about snappy dialogue.

To be honest I am not too sure where subversion ends and "heavy use combined with originality and meta humour" begins.
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Post by: Glebe on February 04, 2016, 12:53:15 PM
http://www.cineworld.ie/whatson/paradise-prometheus-2?cinema=dublin&date=all

What the ACTUAL fuck?! It's not called 'Paradise', Rapace isn't going to in it, and as for being released a month from now, it hasn't even begun filming, to my knowledge. Someone got pranked bad at Cineworld.
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Post by: Replies From View on February 05, 2016, 12:27:23 AM
http://www.cineworld.ie/whatson/paradise-prometheus-2?cinema=dublin&date=all

What the ACTUAL fuck?! It's not called 'Paradise', Rapace isn't going to in it, and as for being released a month from now, it hasn't even begun filming, to my knowledge. Someone got pranked bad at Cineworld.

It's April 1st today, lad.
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Post by: Shaky on February 05, 2016, 06:19:47 AM
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It's not yet known whether Ridley Scott will return to the director's chair.

And it's out in March!! That's some guerrilla film-making. Maybe we'll get a new Alien film every month, on the sly?

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Post by: Glebe on February 11, 2016, 04:18:17 AM
Danny McBride to Join Michael Fassbender in Ridley Scott’s ‘Alien: Covenant’ (Exclusive). (http://www.thewrap.com/danny-mcbride-to-join-michael-fassbender-in-ridley-scotts-alien-covenant-exclusive)

Hmmm. Have to say I find McBride really annoying.
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Post by: Glebe on February 21, 2016, 02:01:15 AM
Aliens' 30th anniversary to be honoured with live orchestra performance at Royal Albert Hall. (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/aliens-to-be-screened-at-royal-albert-hall-with-live-orchestra-a6881046.html)

Nice... saw The Two Towers with a live orchestra, 'twas quite a buzz.
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Post by: Famous Mortimer on February 21, 2016, 07:53:00 AM
Aliens' 30th anniversary to be honoured with live orchestra performance at Royal Albert Hall. (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/aliens-to-be-screened-at-royal-albert-hall-with-live-orchestra-a6881046.html)

Nice... saw The Two Towers with a live orchestra, 'twas quite a buzz.
I've already got my ticket, right looking forward to it.
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Post by: Glebe on February 23, 2016, 02:41:23 AM
Demian Bichir Joins Ridley Scott's 'Alien: Covenant'. (http://deadline.com/2016/02/demian-bichir-ridley-scott-alien-covenant-prometheus-the-hateful-eight-1201707299)

Article wrongly stated Rapace is in it, actually.
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Post by: Glebe on February 26, 2016, 12:41:17 AM
...More cast added. (http://deadline.com/2016/02/alien-covenant-jussie-smolett-amy-seimetz-carmen-ejogo-cast-1201708727)
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Post by: Glebe on April 28, 2016, 10:57:02 AM
ALIEN: COVENANT image released! Plus Sigourney Weaver dishes on Neill Blomkamp's ALIEN! (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/75056)

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj506/Chuckopixs/aliencovenantpatch_zpskiww60kn.jpg)

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj506/Chuckopixs/aliencovenantnewt_zpsu4p6ajzr.jpg)

New page Blomkamp.
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Post by: Blumf on April 28, 2016, 11:50:07 AM
Don't bring Newt back. Can't they use Ripley's daughter instead?
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Post by: Alberon on April 28, 2016, 03:27:06 PM
Don't bring Newt back. Can't they use Ripley's daughter instead?

Played by Betty White?

Unless she got into a hibernation pod herself she'd be at least in her eighties in this film. And dead if you chose not to ignore the extended version of Aliens.
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Post by: Hollow on April 28, 2016, 04:26:17 PM
It's not Aliens, special edition or not, you need to ignore to resurrect Newt, it's Alien 3.
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Post by: Alberon on April 28, 2016, 04:58:50 PM
Talking about Ripley's daughter. In a scene in the special edition Ripley is told she's died.
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Post by: Hollow on April 28, 2016, 05:05:08 PM
Talking about Ripley's daughter. In a scene in the special edition Ripley is told she's died.

K, gotcha.
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Post by: Replies From View on April 28, 2016, 06:44:32 PM
ALIEN: COVENANT image released! Plus Sigourney Weaver dishes on Neill Blomkamp's ALIEN! (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/75056)

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj506/Chuckopixs/aliencovenantpatch_zpskiww60kn.jpg)

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj506/Chuckopixs/aliencovenantnewt_zpsu4p6ajzr.jpg)

New page Blomkamp.

From that article:

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They made her look a lot like Ripley, oddly enough, didn't they?

I really can't see the resemblance.  She's female, and she's wearing the kind of clothing you'd expect to see in an action film of this nature.

There, as far as I can tell, is where the similarity ends.
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Post by: Steven on April 28, 2016, 08:32:53 PM
I reckon they should reboot Alien but this time put a bloke in it instead, that's sure to set a cat amongst the pigeons and no mistake.
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Post by: Blumf on April 28, 2016, 08:36:09 PM
Played by Betty White?

Unless she got into a hibernation pod herself she'd be at least in her eighties in this film. And dead if you chose not to ignore the extended version of Aliens.

Is the time period fixed? I mean, if they're pissing about resurrecting dead characters and that[1], why does it have to be set after Aliens?
 1. Alien 3 was good, fuck the haters! Newt and Hicks are dead to me
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Post by: thraxx on April 28, 2016, 08:45:28 PM
I reckon they should reboot Alien but this time put a bloke in it instead, that's sure to set a cat amongst the pigeons and no mistake.

Yeh, Brian Blessed or Alan Carr.
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Post by: Steven on April 28, 2016, 10:03:24 PM
Yeh, Brian Blessed or Alan Carr.

They're always the last two vying for the same roles, aren't they?
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Post by: thraxx on April 28, 2016, 10:22:09 PM

They're always the last two vying for the same roles, aren't they?

They missed a trick overlooking them for Biehn and Paxton.
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Post by: batwings on April 29, 2016, 11:15:56 AM
(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj506/Chuckopixs/aliencovenantnewt_zpsu4p6ajzr.jpg)[/center]

I suspect that Newt drawing is based on how the actor who played her looks now.

(http://checkraise.com/rants2/archive3/newt.jpg)
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Post by: Glebe on April 29, 2016, 12:14:58 PM
Carrie Henn didn't stick with the old acting apparently.
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Post by: Blumf on April 29, 2016, 12:28:40 PM
Carrie Henn didn't stick with the old acting apparently.

It's a young persons game, mostly.
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Post by: Glebe on April 29, 2016, 12:34:39 PM
It's a young persons game, mostly.

True... Aliens was the Alien Queen's last movie, having featured in the likes of The Titfield Thunderbolt and The Days of Wine and Roses.
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Post by: Head Gardener on April 30, 2016, 10:04:24 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/cU6ILzc.jpg)
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Post by: Solid Jim on May 05, 2016, 06:00:57 PM
It's a young persons game, mostly.

Surely "It's mostly a young persons game, mostly"?
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Post by: Shaky on May 05, 2016, 11:59:35 PM
Still not convinced there's any chance of this happening. Probably better that way, to be honest.
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Post by: Glebe on May 26, 2016, 11:56:00 AM
POTENTIALLY SPOILERISH:

Alien: Covenant on-set pics. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3600337/On-set-photographs-upcoming-Prometheus-sequel-Alien-Covenant-directed-Sir-Ridley-Scott-filmed-Sydney-big-budget-sci-fi-film-starring-Michael-Fassbender-scheduled-August-2017-release.html)

That video... Ridley don't surf.
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Post by: Glebe on May 28, 2016, 04:22:18 PM
First official set image from ALIEN: COVENANT is mighty purty! (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/75293)

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj506/Chuckopixs/aliencovenantmonitor_zps6rmhj6dj.jpg)

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we get a look at Inherent Vice's Katherine Waterson's character, Daniels, resting in a ship's hallway.

I couldn't see her at first. Maybe it was just the angle me laptop was at.
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Post by: Bhazor on May 28, 2016, 04:41:24 PM
Damn it. Was hoping for an all male cast. Just to see how Mary Sue would act.
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Post by: Glebe on June 10, 2016, 02:18:45 AM
WARNING: SPOILERISH RUMOUR:

Katherine Waterston's Alien: Covenant Role May Be Much More Important Than We Realized. (http://www.cinemablend.com/news/1522509/katherine-waterstons-alien-covenant-role-may-be-much-more-important-than-we-realized)

Don't see the point of that, quite frankly.
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Post by: mobias on June 10, 2016, 10:29:24 AM
Its worth remembering just how excited everyone got over the first images from the set of Prometheus and we all know how great that film turned out to be. I have absolutely zero faith in Ridley Scott's ability to make a great horror film, about anything let alone Alien.
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Post by: spock rogers on June 10, 2016, 11:19:51 AM
WARNING: SPOILERISH RUMOUR:

Katherine Waterston's Alien: Covenant Role May Be Much More Important Than We Realized. (http://www.cinemablend.com/news/1522509/katherine-waterstons-alien-covenant-role-may-be-much-more-important-than-we-realized)

Don't see the point of that, quite frankly.

I read that rumour last night. If it's true then Ridley can fuck off. Cunt's gone senile. I watched The Martian recently. Shite. Can't believe the man who directed Alien and Blade Runner directed that. 2 hours and 20 minutes of plodding non-drama.
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Post by: great_badir on June 10, 2016, 12:10:00 PM
Quote from: Blumf on April 29, 2016, 12:28:40 pm
It's a young persons game, mostly.

Surely "It's mostly a young persons game, mostly"?

Surely it's "It's mewstly a young person's game...mewstly."
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Post by: mothman on June 10, 2016, 04:04:47 PM
If it were possible to quantify the sheer degree of all-over-the-place-ness, I wonder which would win - the Alien, Terminator or Highlander universes/franchises? The Predator franchise, even in its overlaps with Alien, is relatively coherent by comparison.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on June 10, 2016, 05:46:16 PM
I read that rumour last night. If it's true then Ridley can fuck off. Cunt's gone senile. I watched The Martian recently. Shite. Can't believe the man who directed Alien and Blade Runner directed that. 2 hours and 20 minutes of plodding non-drama.

I agree, it's a fucking shocking idea, and I'm with you on The Martian front as well, the only way I enjoyed it was by heckling it throughout (home alone, not at the cinema as I am not that kind of man!) and I've no interest in seeing anything he makes in the future now.
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Post by: Replies From View on June 10, 2016, 06:01:45 PM
I've no interest in seeing anything he makes in the future now.

Wouldn't be able to anyway.  Hasn't been made yet.
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Post by: mothman on June 10, 2016, 06:22:46 PM
(http://i.makeagif.com/media/8-19-2015/NoBLq9.gif)
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Post by: phantom_power on June 12, 2016, 10:37:03 PM
Its worth remembering just how excited everyone got over the first images from the set of Prometheus and we all know how great that film turned out to be. I have absolutely zero faith in Ridley Scott's ability to make a great horror film, about anything let alone Alien.

I thought Prometheus was an amazing film for about an hour. It looked great and had a real sense of doom and portent. Then it just got sillier and sillier until I was just openly laughing at the shitness of it all

I really liked The Martian, though it didn't seem like a Ridley Scott film
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Post by: Glebe on June 17, 2016, 02:03:06 AM
New Alien: Covenant Image Reveals Michael Fassbender’s New Look. (http://www.cinemablend.com/news/1524609/new-alien-covenant-image-reveals-michael-fassbenders-new-look)

That's yer lot.
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Post by: Pepotamo1985 on June 17, 2016, 08:12:13 AM
I must say, I think Ridley Scott is genuinely a fucking idiot. I don't know whether he's gone a bit senile in his old age, or his earlier successes were flukes (or, a Star Wars situation where his cretinous excesses were heavily curbed by others), or what. Down Chunder has made a number of compilations of his DVD commentaries, and his comments make me wonder if a lot of the symbolism I detect in Alien isn't there, or was unintentional.
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Post by: spock rogers on June 17, 2016, 11:56:15 AM
his comments make me wonder if a lot of the symbolism I detect in Alien isn't there, or was unintentional.

Maybe it was written into the script?

I get the feeling now that when Scott reads a script, rather than listening to what the characters are saying, he's thinking of how to block certain shots, what effects will be needed etc. He's so focused on the minutiae of technical details that he can't see things, such as characters who are meant to be intelligent acting like absolute fucking dimwits.
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Post by: Kelvin on June 17, 2016, 12:33:32 PM
I must say, I think Ridley Scott is genuinely a fucking idiot. I don't know whether he's gone a bit senile in his old age, or his earlier successes were flukes (or, a Star Wars situation where his cretinous excesses were heavily curbed by others), or what. Down Chunder has made a number of compilations of his DVD commentaries, and his comments make me wonder if a lot of the symbolism I detect in Alien isn't there, or was unintentional.

I don't think you make as many good films as Scott by fluke. In fact, I don't believe anyone can make a good big budget film by fluke. Many great directors simply lose their way in later years, for a variety of reasons. Even people like Spielberg and Coppola went off the boil to one extent or another. 
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Post by: Kelvin on June 17, 2016, 12:36:03 PM
Oh, and I don't know what symbolism you're talking about, but in the commentary, I'm certain they talk about it's many visual allusions to rape and sexuality. 
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Post by: BOBBY FLOWERS on June 17, 2016, 12:46:52 PM
Wasn't all the imagery and symbolism down to Giger?
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Post by: Pepotamo1985 on June 17, 2016, 01:17:42 PM
I get the feeling now that when Scott reads a script, rather than listening to what the characters are saying, he's thinking of how to block certain shots, what effects will be needed etc. He's so focused on the minutiae of technical details that he can't see things, such as characters who are meant to be intelligent acting like absolute fucking dimwits.

You're probably right. I find it amazing that no one on the Prometheus team raised issues about the script, though. The Aliens universe wiki has a lengthy piece on the film's plotholes, some of which are so gaping I find it astounding the story was shot and performed as it was on the page.
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Post by: Paaaaul on June 17, 2016, 01:17:48 PM
I don't think you make as many good films as Scott by fluke.
Two?
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Post by: Kelvin on June 17, 2016, 01:26:42 PM
Two?

He's made more than that. Alien, Blade Runner, I haven't seen it in years, but Gladiator is a decent blockbuster, Legend's pretty good, Thelma and Louise is pretty good, Hannibal's problems stem from the novel, but is a pretty good in spite of that.

Plus, as I said above, I don't believe any good film is made by fluke. Too many moving parts, too much working against it, too many things you have to get right. Even two great films is evidence he wasn't always a bad director.   
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Post by: Blumf on June 17, 2016, 01:39:24 PM
Black Hawk Down (2001) is a very well put together action film.

American Gangster (2007) was irredeemably dull however.

Looking at it, I think the downturn happened between those two, not sure exactly when, not seen the intervening films. It does seem like he'll put together a decent film if the script is given to him, but he can't rescue of bad script.
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Post by: colacentral on June 17, 2016, 01:58:29 PM
He does come across as both arrogant and dumb in interviews and commentaries though, he often makes me cringe with the bollocks he talks. He actually reminds me a bit of Gervais: the kind of person to decide the reason that he did something after the fact and pretend that it's what he was trying to do all along. He's a competent film maker but so is Michael Bay, and I think the success of his biggest films is down to having a talented group of people working for him more than anything else.
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Post by: mothman on June 17, 2016, 04:10:17 PM
Scott's debut, The Duellists, is a gorgeous-looking if rather pedestrian 70s-style period film which nevertheless is one of my favourite films of all time, for reasons I'd struggle to explain.
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Post by: Pdine on June 17, 2016, 08:10:02 PM
Ridley Scott's grey dick exploding out of the chest of this rotting franchise as he fucks it to a pointless paté.
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Post by: Glebe on June 21, 2016, 07:45:30 AM
Noomi Rapace Joins ‘Alien: Covenant’. (http://deadline.com/2016/06/noomi-rapace-alien-covenant-reprises-role-1201776038)

Well that's good to hear. So it's not going to be Michael Fassbender explaining to the audience that she got killed before the sequel or summit.
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Post by: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on June 21, 2016, 09:44:33 AM
Based on the previous film, the character could just have stupided herself to death.
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Post by: Steven on June 21, 2016, 10:52:41 AM
He actually reminds me a bit of Gervais: the kind of person to decide the reason that he did something after the fact and pretend that it's what he was trying to do all along. He's a competent film maker but so is Michael Bay, and I think the success of his biggest films is down to having a talented group of people working for him more than anything else.

Especially as Alien was sort of a conceptual hangover from the artistic think-tank preparing for Jodorowsky's version of Dune that Scott attached himself to.
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Post by: Pepotamo1985 on June 21, 2016, 11:55:28 AM
Based on the previous film, the character could just have stupided herself to death.

All the internal bleeding that operation would've caused that somehow hasn't been impacting her finally catches up seconds after the credits roll
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Post by: mothman on June 21, 2016, 09:10:22 PM
She remembers too late that twins run in her dead partner's family.
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Post by: Bad Ambassador on June 22, 2016, 11:57:51 AM
It could literally be anything. Prometheus's Random Events Plot opens a world of options. Maybe she stepped back through the magic door into the changing room of the costume shop in Mr. Benn.
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Post by: phantom_power on June 22, 2016, 02:12:59 PM
Fucking Danny McBride is in it as well
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Post by: Shameless Custard on June 22, 2016, 03:10:32 PM
You remember when we came out of the cinema all confused and deflated after seeing Prometheus? Then we were promised the DVD version would help everything make sense, but didn't?

Well maybe that film AND this shite will be explained on the next DVD! Ridley has a master plan! Only another 15 squids to find out!
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Post by: Glebe on June 22, 2016, 03:12:40 PM
Fucking Danny McBride is in it as well

Indeed he is. (https://twitter.com/AlienAnthology/status/745239886853251072)
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Post by: St_Eddie on June 24, 2016, 11:54:23 PM
Indeed he is. (https://twitter.com/AlienAnthology/status/745239886853251072)

Nice callback to the drinking bird from Alien on that control panel there.  It's a Hawaiian hula girl doll, holding a ukulele...

(http://i64.tinypic.com/30igftt.jpg)

I don't hold much hope for Alien: Covenant to be any better than the bitter disappointment of Prometheus but I am preferring what little we've seen the set design so far.
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Post by: Glebe on July 06, 2016, 11:09:59 PM
Aliens reunion planned for Comic-Con — exclusive. (http://www.ew.com/article/2016/07/06/aliens-30th-anniversary-comic-con-event)

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There will be much to discuss at Comic-Con, since not only is it a look back at a sci-fi classic, but Weaver is working with District 9 filmmaker Neill Blomkamp to create a new Aliens sequel, one that picks up where Cameron’s film left off and somewhat de-canonizes David Fincher’s Alien 3 (1992) and Jean-Pierre Jeunet’s Alien: Resurrection (1997). “It’s just as if, you know, the path forks and one direction goes off to three and four and another direction goes off to Neill’s movie,” Weaver says.

As unfairly maligned as Alien 3 is, I'm glad they're doing this. At least it won't be some clone of Ripley again or summit. Meanwhile:

‘Alien: Covenant’: Danny McBride Confirmed as Pilot; Set Video Shows Off Practical Effects. (http://collider.com/alien-covenant-danny-mcbride-effects-video-comic-con)
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Post by: Shaky on July 07, 2016, 01:59:59 AM
Aliens reunion planned for Comic-Con — exclusive. (http://www.ew.com/article/2016/07/06/aliens-30th-anniversary-comic-con-event)

As unfairly maligned as Alien 3 is, I'm glad they're doing this. At least it won't be some clone of Ripley again or summit. Meanwhile:

I dunno about all this. I like Alien 3 - not some of it's choices, admittedly - but the basic idea that Ripley's chance meeting with the Xenomorph all those years ago is fated to end in the destruction of both of them is solid. Got a bit of weight to it, that. The tragedy of Ellen Ripley. Not sure I need to see Newt and Hicks again.
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Post by: Bazooka on July 07, 2016, 09:22:16 AM
As far as the trilogy, Alien 3 succeeds in multiple categories: cast,cinematography,score,hallway chase scenes. In terms of proper film criteria other than machine gun action it fully succeeds.
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Post by: Replies From View on July 07, 2016, 07:27:46 PM
Hopefully they will soon create an Alien sequel that de-canonises the final third of the first Alien movie and branches off from there.

So, like, there'd be like the films that come from the end of the first Alien film (Aliens, Alien 3, Alien Resurrection and the sequel that follows Aliens but de-canonises Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection), and you'll have this one, do you understand.


Also how about a cartoon spin-off series about that cat and how much of a cunt it is.
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Post by: Shaky on July 08, 2016, 01:15:28 AM
Hopefully they will soon create an Alien sequel that de-canonises the final third of the first Alien movie and branches off from there.

So, like, there'd be like the films that come from the end of the first Alien film (Aliens, Alien 3, Alien Resurrection and the sequel that follows Aliens but de-canonises Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection), and you'll have this one, do you understand.


Also how about a cartoon spin-off series about that cat and how much of a cunt it is.

Every choice Ripley faces could spawn a new series of films which go off in completely different directions.

Like Sliding Doors... in Space.
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Post by: Replies From View on July 08, 2016, 01:08:46 PM
They could call the resulting franchise, I dunno - "Alien films".

Or "Alien movies".


Something along those lines.
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Post by: Glebe on July 08, 2016, 11:35:14 PM
See a ​surreal fashion show befitting an 'Aliens' reboot. (http://www.cnet.com/news/see-a-surreal-fashion-show-befitting-an-aliens-reboot)

It's not really anything to do with Aliens. But it is kinda spooky.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Glebe on July 13, 2016, 01:21:10 AM
James Cameron's Aliens with a live score coming first to Dublin. (http://www.breakingnews.ie/showbiz/james-camerons-aliens-with-a-live-score-coming-first-to-dublin-744395.html)

Ooh, I might have to get meself along to that!
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Glebe on July 13, 2016, 07:11:10 PM
Sigourney Weaver says stalled Aliens sequel would 'give this woman an ending'. (http://www.ew.com/article/2016/07/13/sigourney-weaver-aliens-sequel-neill-blomkamp)

Not sure if there's really any fresh info there, but there yah go.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Glebe on July 14, 2016, 07:32:02 PM
Danny McBride is shocked he's in the new 'Alien' movie, too. (http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/danny-mcbride-is-shocked-hes-in-the-new-alien-movie-too)
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Replies From View on July 16, 2016, 12:13:11 PM
Sigourney Weaver says stalled Aliens sequel would 'give this woman an ending'. (http://www.ew.com/article/2016/07/13/sigourney-weaver-aliens-sequel-neill-blomkamp)

Not sure if there's really any fresh info there, but there yah go.

I don't know if she remembers filming Alien3, but her character already had an ending.  Sigourney Weaver seems like the kind of person who enjoys raking in obscene amounts of cash whilst having numerous bites of cherries.  I bet she over-eggs puddings while she's at it.


She's also quite stupid because she says this:

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“It’s a tribute to all of the great work that the other directors have done, in a way, but goes in a completely new direction. I hope we’ll do it.”

It's clearly not a tribute to the directors of the third and fourth Alien films is it (unless "fuck you" is what she means with "in a way").  What a tremendous fucking dunce.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Shaky on July 16, 2016, 01:40:54 PM
Think you're being a bit harsh on old Sigourney, Replies. I genuinely think she loves the character and has been interested in a follow-up for the last 20 years (for more than financial reasons) - remember that this new iteration is largely Blomkamp's idea, too. The guy can probably do hypnosis and shit.

Still... this film should never happen. It does smell quite wrong. As I tediously intoned on a previous page, Ripley's death in Alien 3 gives the saga some "bottom", as they say.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Steven on July 16, 2016, 05:56:40 PM
Weaver was already from a rich socialite family before she even began her acting career, so she doesn't exactly need the bux.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Glebe on July 20, 2016, 06:21:47 AM
Alien: Covenant Wraps Production By Sharing This Unusual Photo. (http://www.cinemablend.com/news/1536180/alien-covenant-wraps-production-by-sharing-this-unusual-photo)

They're havin' a right ol' chuckle, by the looks of it!
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Glebe on July 22, 2016, 03:45:05 AM
Check out Danny McBride in Ridley Scott's ALIEN: COVENANT!!! (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/75751)

And that's that.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Dr Rock on July 22, 2016, 12:12:49 PM
Walking past Muswell Hill Odeon yesterday, noticed a crowd, and they were showing Alien. And they were filming the crowds go in, like it was a premier. Didn't stick around to see if Sigourney Weaver was there or anything. Any idea what that was all about?
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Bad Ambassador on July 22, 2016, 12:41:29 PM
Dramatisation?
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Dr Rock on July 22, 2016, 12:45:52 PM
Dramatisation?

It could've been - I don't know what for though. The Muswell Hill Odeon listings shows no sign of Alien being on yesterday.

Also, it couldn't have been a dramatisation of people going to see Alien back when it came out, as people in front of the camera didn't seem to be wearing all 1979s clothes. But the movie poster did feature an X certificate, not an 18, which I hadn't seen for decades.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: pandadeath on July 23, 2016, 09:35:16 PM
Is there supposed to be a trailer for Alien: Covenant showing up at Comic Con? It's about a year away from release, so now seems like the right sort of time for the first teaser so it seems weird that we haven't seen one yet.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Glebe on July 24, 2016, 01:17:35 AM
Is there supposed to be a trailer for Alien: Covenant showing up at Comic Con? It's about a year away from release, so now seems like the right sort of time for the first teaser so it seems weird that we haven't seen one yet.

Seems to have been trailers for everything else except Alien: Covenant. Ah well.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Replies From View on July 24, 2016, 12:54:30 PM
Seems to have been trailers for everything else except Alien: Covenant. Ah well.

It's probably just not actually being made.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Glebe on July 24, 2016, 01:25:48 PM
It's probably just not actually being made.

Indeed, maybe Ridley Scott's gone barmy and he's only pretending to make films now.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Glebe on July 26, 2016, 05:48:37 AM
Aliens | 2016 Comic Con Full Panel (James Cameron, Sigourney Weaver, Bill Paxton). (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqRjzU-G_ow)

Pity Vasqueuz couldn't make it.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Glebe on August 05, 2016, 02:10:14 AM
Alien: Covenant 1-Year Countdown - Cryosleep Teaser. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LURhkWpHpKc)

Fuck's sake, this is still a full fucking year away.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: mobias on August 05, 2016, 07:15:20 PM
I'm sorry but this film is going to be utter shit. No doubt about it. Prometheus proved that Ridley Scott has no grasp of what made Alien great and no gasp of what makes a great horror film in this day and age.

If I'm wrong about all this I'll be delighted but sadly I won't be wrong.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Replies From View on August 08, 2016, 03:31:37 PM
I'm sorry but this film is going to be utter shit. No doubt about it. Prometheus proved that Ridley Scott has no grasp of what made Alien great and no gasp of what makes a great horror film in this day and age.

If I'm wrong about all this I'll be delighted but sadly I won't be wrong.

Yes but think of the excitement as we build up for an entire year to the utterly shit film!
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Dr Rock on August 08, 2016, 03:37:36 PM
I think they should keep Ripley but have her fight some different aliens. I'm bored of the xenomorphs now.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on August 08, 2016, 03:44:50 PM
Prometheus was shit for cunts, but I'd lay the blame squarely at the feet of Damon Lindelof and his crummy script.

Quote from: A. Cunt
It's so ambitious.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Blumf on August 08, 2016, 08:30:33 PM
I think they should keep Ripley but have her fight some different aliens. I'm bored of the xenomorphs now.

How about that beachball alien from Dark Star?
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Glebe on August 08, 2016, 08:36:20 PM
How about that beachball alien from Dark Star?

Or this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7MHfqN08Ig)?
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Glebe on September 10, 2016, 03:37:55 AM
Neill Blomkamp teases "new", non-Alien 5 project. (http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/neill-blomkamp/43567/neill-blomkamp-teases-new-non-alien-5-project)

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Curiously, the eerie-looking head bears a passing resemblance to one of the Engineers from Prometheus - albeit with the kind of strange distortions that look like something out of John Carpenter's The Thing.

Also reminds me of one the Goblin Market guys in Hellboy II. Anyhoo, intriguing stuff...
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Glebe on September 14, 2016, 12:59:50 PM
James Cameron wrote Aliens and Rambo at the same time. (http://www.ew.com/article/2016/09/13/aliens-james-cameron-blu-ray)

Kewl.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Glebe on October 15, 2016, 02:24:30 AM
Unused Title Treatment for Ridley Scott’s ‘Alien’, 1979. (https://wearethemutants.com/2016/10/05/exhibit-unused-title-treatment-for-ridley-scotts-alien-1979)

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj506/Chuckopixs/unusedalientitle_zpszt3jcbmu.png)
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Glebe on October 25, 2016, 12:57:58 PM
‘Alien: Covenant’s’ New Xenomorphs Have a New Name. (http://www.slashfilm.com/alien-covenant-new-xenomorph)

Right, then.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Replies From View on October 25, 2016, 03:22:14 PM
I take it these 'Neomorphs' will be able to stop bullets in mid-air and fly about like Superman and stuff.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Obel on October 25, 2016, 03:49:56 PM
Unused Title Treatment for Ridley Scott’s ‘Alien’, 1979. (https://wearethemutants.com/2016/10/05/exhibit-unused-title-treatment-for-ridley-scotts-alien-1979)

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj506/Chuckopixs/unusedalientitle_zpszt3jcbmu.png)

I saw Ruen in the cinema. Great film.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: greenman on October 25, 2016, 06:49:59 PM
Unused Title Treatment for Ridley Scott’s ‘Alien’, 1979. (https://wearethemutants.com/2016/10/05/exhibit-unused-title-treatment-for-ridley-scotts-alien-1979)

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj506/Chuckopixs/unusedalientitle_zpszt3jcbmu.png)

Rather cheesey compared to what we did get which is IMHO the best opening titles in cinema history...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zItdK13pSik
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Replies From View on October 25, 2016, 09:45:15 PM
Bit gaudy isn't it.  Looks like the kind of thing Michael Jackson would be filmed buying for no reason.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: mothman on October 26, 2016, 07:50:02 PM
I could see Home Sense selling something like that. Awful, horrible store.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Glebe on October 29, 2016, 06:14:22 PM
EXCLUSIVE: Leaked ‘Alien: Covenant’ Images Give Us the First Look at The New Xenomorphs. (http://www.soisitanygood.com/exclusive-new-alien-covenant-images-give-us-glimpse-new-xenomorphs)

Flippin' 'eck, we're getting full on classic Alien with this!
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on October 29, 2016, 06:54:29 PM
Looks more like something from Alien Resurrection to me.

Bit gaudy isn't it?
Yes, it looks like it would have been used on an arcade game from the late '80s. I guessed that it was a pastiche by someone else, before I clicked the link, which is unusually insightful for me.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Mark Steels Stockbroker on October 29, 2016, 09:31:25 PM
EXCLUSIVE: Leaked ‘Alien: Covenant’ Images Give Us the First Look at The New Xenomorphs. (http://www.soisitanygood.com/exclusive-new-alien-covenant-images-give-us-glimpse-new-xenomorphs)

Flippin' 'eck, we're getting full on classic Alien with this!

Oo er looks a bit rude
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Glebe on November 05, 2016, 10:36:37 PM
Michael Fassbender Now Says He’s Playing Two Characters In Alien: Covenant. (http://www.cinemablend.com/news/1579939/michael-fassbender-now-says-hes-playing-two-characters-in-alien-covenant)

The plot thickens.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: mobias on November 06, 2016, 12:19:02 AM


The plot thickens.

I bet it bloody doesn't, its a Ridley Scott film. 
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Replies From View on November 06, 2016, 10:37:39 AM
The shit thickens.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Glebe on November 06, 2016, 10:56:02 AM
I'm just shit-chatting.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: St_Eddie on November 08, 2016, 12:34:19 AM
For those who don't want to know, I'll Spoiler mark the following but I've done some digging online and I can pretty much guarantee that the following is true...

In Alien: Covenant, Katherine Waterston's character will be revealed to be Ellen Ripley's mother, or at the very least; either Ripley's mother will appear in some capacity and/or Ellen Ripley will be seen as a baby/small child.

For those who doubt me, bear in mind that I called out The Woods being a secret Blair Witch Project sequel months prior to its reveal[1] and I also suggested that The God Particle was a secret Cloverfield movie, again months prior to its reveal[2].  I'm not saying that to boast (because seriously, who gives a flying shit) but rather to verify that I know how to sort the wheat from the chaff when it comes to rumours on the grapevine.

All of this given, I've already lost faith in the movie.  I mean, what are the chances of Ripley's mother encountering these same creatures decades prior to the events depicted with her daughter in Alien?!  Never mind that Ellen Ripley's daughter, Amanda, also encountered the same creatures in Alien: Isolation (although, at least a logical and natural narrative reason was given there - something which I can't even begin to fathom occurring with with Alien: Covenant - also, I'm sure that unlike myself, many won't consider that game to be canonical to the movies anyway). 

On top of that of course, Neill Blomkamp wants to retcon Alien 3 and Alien: Resurrection, so that he can make a new third movie wet piece of fan-fiction with Sigourney Weaver back as Ripley as well.  For fuck's sake!  Can't we just move on from fucking Ripley and do something different with the series (that doesn't involve Predators or weed smoking, snake petting morons)?!

Yes.  Ripley is an icon of cinema and was brilliant but her story ended with Alien 3 (because fuck the bollocks that was Alien: Resurrection - itself a cancerous symptom of Hollywood's inability to let Ripley rest in peace and do something a little bit different).  After all, the series is called 'Alien', not 'Ripley', for Jiminy Cricket's sake!  It's the creative bankruptcy of it all that I find to be particularly egregious!  It really is absurd.
  Okay, rant over now.

Yes, it looks like it would have been used on an arcade game from the late '80s.

You're not wrong.  I reminds me of R-Type, which itself was heavily inspired by Giger's work on Alien.

(http://i.imgur.com/21VTRzf.jpg)

Aside from that, it kind of irks me when movie news sites post things like that concept art as "news"[3].  It's been readily available in the concept art gallery of the Alien DVD and Blu-Ray boxset ever since 2003 (and probably other sources way before that).  Still, I suppose it's nice for those who don't own such sets to have a gander but don't go posting it as news, you traffic-hungry melonheads.  I could just as easily start up a movie news site where I post information gleaned from my DVD collection, in an effort to generate clicks and ad revenue but I don't and that's only partially because I'm incredibly lazy.

Sorry, I'm ranting again.  First world problems, eh?
 1. http://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=53620.0 (http://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=53620.0)
 2. Fourth post of mine on this page... http://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,51896.30.html (http://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,51896.30.html)
 3. I hasten to add that I'm not referring to greenman, who posted the image within this thread.  That's a fine thing to do.  I'm specifically referring to movie news sites, where I've seen that same image crop up multiple times recently, across various sites; usually with a header such as 'original Alien title concept art has been unearthed!'.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Noodle Lizard on November 24, 2016, 10:28:17 AM
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Covenant also stars Katherine Waterston, Danny McBride, and Billy Crudup.

Oh good.  That'll be good.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Bad Ambassador on November 24, 2016, 10:45:53 AM
The release has also been moved up three months, from August to May.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Glebe on November 24, 2016, 11:04:19 AM
The release has also been moved up three months, from August to May.

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj506/Chuckopixs/aliencovenantteaserposter_zpskdfpizmu.jpg)

The 'RUN' is a bit redundant.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Blumf on November 24, 2016, 11:23:39 AM
(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj506/Chuckopixs/aliencovenantteaserposter_zpskdfpizmu.jpg)

Not sure I'm on board with this new Doctor Who
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Post by: Replies From View on November 24, 2016, 12:10:27 PM
Not sure I'm on board with this new Doctor Who

I like him.  Shunted forward by three months instead of back by six, as well.  It's on the up and up.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on November 24, 2016, 12:31:52 PM
Not sure I'm on board with this new Doctor Who
It couldn't be any worse than David Tennant.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Operty1 on November 24, 2016, 03:55:39 PM
None Alien fans will presume the film is called RUN.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Dr Rock on November 24, 2016, 04:22:24 PM
Run away? That works does it?
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Replies From View on November 24, 2016, 04:33:21 PM
'Run Rabbit' would be good.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Blumf on November 24, 2016, 05:14:57 PM
'Scarper'
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: mothman on November 24, 2016, 06:08:41 PM
"Fuck. Run." would be my choice[1].
 1. But in terms of an expletive followed by an instruction. I'm not espousing that anyone should have sex with a xenomorph then do a runner and never call it again.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: St_Eddie on November 24, 2016, 11:35:53 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/wBG9G3A.jpg)
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Post by: Hangthebuggers on November 24, 2016, 11:47:23 PM
Crikey!
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Post by: kidsick5000 on November 25, 2016, 05:35:09 AM
GERTCHA!
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: mobias on November 25, 2016, 08:33:23 AM
I like the thinking behind this poster. Nothing sells an Alien movie like having an alien in it so best put an alien on the new Alien movie poster.

I predict this movie is going to be great.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Thomas on November 25, 2016, 01:51:48 PM
I watched Aliens (1986) yesterday. Far too much army action, too much stuff that was supposed to be 'badass'. Bill Paxton's character couldn't die soon enough, man.

And littering the film with a million easily dispatched aliens reduced all of their sinister, creepy, strange techno-mythical menace. Disappointing, boring sequel.

Unused Title Treatment for Ridley Scott’s ‘Alien’, 1979. (https://wearethemutants.com/2016/10/05/exhibit-unused-title-treatment-for-ridley-scotts-alien-1979)

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj506/Chuckopixs/unusedalientitle_zpszt3jcbmu.png)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c7/Clangers-album.jpg/220px-Clangers-album.jpg)

Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: St_Eddie on November 25, 2016, 04:02:27 PM
I watched Aliens (1986) yesterday. Far too much army action, too much stuff that was supposed to be 'badass'. Bill Paxton's character couldn't die soon enough, man.

I've long felt that as a flick on it's own terms; Aliens is one of the best action movies out there, whilst simultaneously being a terrible follow-up to Alien.  Perhaps worst of all is the influence that James Cameron's movie has had on the series in general (both in terms of the movies and in particular, the expanded universe); so many damn space marines, blasting xenos like they're oversized cockroaches, as opposed to portraying them as the Lovecraftian nightmare that they truly are.  As a movie following on from Ridley Scott's seminal masterpiece, I find Aliens to be grossly overrated and Alien 3 (particularly the assembly cut) to be equally underrated.

*digs around online*

Ah ha!  Here it is; a piece I wrote online 6 years ago (on a different forum) about my feelings regarding Aliens and Alien 3...

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People often bemoan the death of Newt and Hicks at the start of Alien 3.  What these people fail to understand is that their deaths were completely in keeping with the universe and tone established by first film.  Furthermore, the very nature of the story being told in Alien 3 really demands that those characters be killed off, for Alien 3 is a tale of redemption, sacrifice and faith. Thematically it deals heavily with life and death. The scene which shines this thematic beacon the brightest is the funeral speech by Dillon; dedicated to the aforementioned characters...

"Why are the innocent punished? Why the sacrifice? Why the pain? There aren't any promises. Nothing's certain. Only that some get called, some get saved. She won't ever know the hardship and grief for those of us left behind. We commit these bodies to the void... with a glad heart. For within each seed, there is the promise of a flower. And within each death, no matter how small, there's always a new life. A new beginning" - Dillon, Alien 3

Via a superb example of clever editing, during this speech the film cuts back and forth between the funeral itself and the birth of the alien from the ox (or dog, if you're watching the theatrical cut). It's worth noting the futile question of "why" at the beginning of the Dillon's speech, as this shows us that Alien 3 is a film reflective of real life. In real life, you can strive to save someone and still lose them. In real life, things rarely go the way we would like them to.  We often find ourselves asking why must terrible things happen, only to be answered with silence.  Real life has no morals or sense of justice and fairness. Only one thing is certain in real life; death and with each death, a new life.  Much like Ridley Scott's original 1979 masterpiece, Alien 3 is a relitevely grounded science-fiction film; one viewed through the lens of relatable reality (or at least, it's as relatalbe as a film dealing with killer aliens in outer space could possibly be).

At the other end of he spectrum, we have James Cameron's Aliens, which is a blockbuster extravaganza. Arguably one of the finest action adventures ever committed to screen, no less.  In short; it's a classic of the genre which it primarily inhabits (which unlike Alien and Alien 3, is not horror). It shows Ripley tortured by the events of the first film and by the loss of her daughter (although only in the special edition, which incidentally is the superior version). It is however a 'popcorn munching' flick for the masses.  The protagonist's obstacles are set up at the beginning of the movie and then neatly resolved at the end; Ripley overcomes the loss of her daughter by saving Newt; she overcomes her fear of the xenomorph by facing her literal demon and blowing it out of an airlock. The ending of Aliens is in no way true to life, it is a pure happily-ever-after fantasy, tying everything up with a neat bow.

Alien 3 on the other hand, represents a harsh crash back down to reality (or in this case, a penal colony). It is a dark, gritty and thoughtful film, which mirrors our own lives by asking questions that can never be answered and shows a life where bad things can (and indeed do) happen to good people. The film is not entirely nihilistic however, as it also shows us that through redemption, hope and resilience will always spring eternal.

For all those people whom bemoan the narrative of Alien 3 and view it as a betrayal of James Cameron's Aliens; they should perhaps consider that if you were to take the first three Alien films and lay them out, it is in actuality the second film which stands as the odd one out. In many ways, Aliens was a betrayal of the universe established in Alien and Alien 3 is the true spiritual followup to the original masterpiece.

...6 years on and I still stand by that.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: greenman on November 25, 2016, 04:33:46 PM
Personally I view Alien 3 as more an attempt to merge aspects of Alien and Aliens, the grim horror of the original and the larger than life drama of the sequel. Ripley in Alien 3 is afterall much more a product of Aliens than she is Alien were she was just the one who happened to get out alive after being just as closed off and dysfunctional as everyone else.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Glebe on December 06, 2016, 05:17:54 PM
New Alien: Covenant set photo: (https://twitter.com/20thcenturyfox/status/804010006257373184)

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj506/Chuckopixs/scottaliencovenant_zpsxlyzcjbx.jpg)
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Post by: Glebe on December 13, 2016, 02:54:15 AM
Alien: Covenant Footage Just Screened And The Reactions Are In. (http://www.cinemablend.com/news/1597700/alien-covenant-footage-just-screened-and-the-reactions-are-in)

Well it certainly sounds gory but that doesn't mean it's gonna be good.

SPOILER ALERT - cameo role! (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2016/12/09/exclusive-james-franco-to-appear-in-alien-covenant)

And just for a giggle:

Pigs in Space | “Alien: Look Who’s Coming to Dinner”| The Muppets. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmI77ZBeJrQ)

New page competing Alien films thread.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Glebe on December 17, 2016, 02:57:37 AM
Exclusive: Michael Fassbender Talks His New Alien: Covenant Robot Walter. (http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/794915-exclusive-michael-fassbender-talks-his-new-alien-covenant-robot-walter)

I didn't realise he was playing a new robot in this.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on December 17, 2016, 12:52:24 PM
Walter the Wobot?

In keeping with the rest of the series, he should be called something starting with an E.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Thomas on December 17, 2016, 06:21:58 PM
I have watched (the Assembly Cut of) Alien 3. I have to agree with St_Eddie's very eloquent review on the previous page.

Crash-landing on planet of the rapists and killing off yer ones at the beginning sets a startlingly nihilistic, 'anyone can die, anything can happen' storytelling ethos after the action adventure of Aliens, but the conclusion of the film also means an elegant arc for Ripley. The universe is grubby, dank, and filled with horrible acquaintances. The alien itself is menacing and creepy again. Far less rapid-fire army stuff. Paul McGann and Charles Dance are in it.

Yeah. Think I'll leave my viewing at that.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Steven on December 17, 2016, 07:16:26 PM
Far less rapid-fire army stuff. Paul McGann and Charles Dance are in it.

And Ralph Brown, they could have cast Richard E. Grant and Richard Griffiths while they were at it looking for British thesps and had a proper Withnail reunion.

Marwood: Monty I hoped to avoid telling you this, but there's an Alien on the loose outside this space prison complex.

Monty: Is this true?
     
Withnail: Well, there's this local type. Alien. We got into a bit of a tiff and he threatened me with an inner set of pharyngeal jaws located at the tip of a long, tongue-like proboscis. Yes, it was rather amusing acutally. When you came into the prison refinery we thought it was him and we thought that you cleaning your space boots was him melting the floor with his acid blood.

Monty: Oh, how delicious!

Marwood: I'm going for a space walk.
     
Monty: Oh, wait for us dear boy, we'll all go!


Fuck you Fincher, that would have been a much better movie.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Shameless Custard on December 18, 2016, 09:01:34 AM
I LOVE the Alien 3 Assembly Cut. It's a cracking film, and a perfect end to Ripley's story

Never seen Resurrection, and doubt I will ever bother

Just finished reading the first Omnibus of the Aliens comic from the 90's, and I'd recommend that to any fans of the film. Gets the tone right, and the alien(s) are, of course, fucking terrifying. A good story, too. That said, I dunno why they made the pages so bleedin' small, as dodgy eyed cunts like me really have to strain at times
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Glebe on December 21, 2016, 02:56:22 AM
Well looks like this is going for an Aliens vibe... new pics from here: (https://twitter.com/AlienAnthology)


(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj506/Chuckopixs/aliencovenantpic1_zpspzrvmvhx.jpg)

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj506/Chuckopixs/aliencovenantpic2_zpsrsfj8sjr.jpg)

And:

Katherine Waterston takes aim in new Alien: Covenant photo. (http://ew.com/movies/2016/12/20/alien-covenant-katherine-waterston-photo)

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj506/Chuckopixs/ewaliencovenantwaterston_zpsblwbdeol.jpg)
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Glebe on December 24, 2016, 05:51:25 AM
Bloody New Alien: Covenant Image Proves This Film Is Going For Gory Horror. (http://www.cinemablend.com/news/1603290/bloody-new-alien-covenant-image-proves-this-film-is-going-for-gory-horror)

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the first trailer for Alien: Covenant, which will arrive before the end of the year

Coo!

[FAKE EDIT]

Exclusive new look at Katherine Waterston in Alien: Covenant. (http://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/alien-covenant-katherine-waterston)

(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj506/Chuckopixs/empirealienwaterston_zpsnn0zrrnk.jpg)
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Glebe on December 25, 2016, 01:09:04 AM
Tomorrow... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTUnS-_-vUo)
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on June 18, 2017, 07:19:40 PM
It's not exactly what we might have hoped for but Blomkamp has just released a twenty minute short film which Sigourney Weaver narrates and stars in - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjQ2t_yNHQs - it's quite fun, with a post apocalyptic earth being slowly destroyed by a bunch of mean aliens.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Bogbrainedmurphy on November 15, 2018, 11:16:44 AM
Bit of an Alien... Resurrection... this thread, but I didn't want to invade the comic book thread as I'd feel a bit of a JCL, haven't bought a comic in years.

Anyway, first issue of "William Gibson's Alien 3" came out yesterday at Forbidden Planet, based on the original unmade script of Alien 3. It's a bit on the short side this Part 1, but I'm really interested to see this played out as I've not read the script before.

Ahh I love Hicks.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: thraxx on November 15, 2018, 11:29:41 AM

Ahh I love Hicks.

That's Corporal Hicks to you, he's not just a grunt, he has authority here.  Am I right?
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Bogbrainedmurphy on November 15, 2018, 11:43:49 AM
That's Corporal Hicks to you, he's not just a grunt, he has authority here.  Am I right?

Yeeaah, that's right.
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Shameless Custard on November 15, 2018, 04:22:52 PM
Maybe this'll finally go ahead, now a Halloween that ignores sequels has made a load of dough

I still think Ridley will get at least one more go, though
Title: Re: New "Alien" movie coming from Neill Blomkamp
Post by: Operty1 on November 15, 2018, 05:02:53 PM
I hope he gets to finish what he started, as it seems a shame to just end the story after Covenant, but he's 80 now, with a work slate that would see him to at least his mid 80's.

Was disappointed that Covenant didn't get the Director's Cut treatment on home release, there was much more footage shot apparently. I thought Prometheus really benefited from it. (though still had some daft choices in there)