The Travails of Labour - The Cat Came Back Prrrrrrr

[Buelligan]

We need a new Labour thread, here it is - let's make it beautiful, interesting, comradely, on this, the day that George Galloway took Rochdale - link to old thread here - https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=104615.msg5539477#main_content_section

[Video Game Fan 2000]

Is St Patrick's Day cultural appropriation?

[iamcoop]

Good to see Sir Jim looking well.

[Buelligan]

Just copied this over from the old thread to prevent us going over our 100 page limit -

Okay fair enough. So why don't you address what he does? The smears, the expulsions of Jewish members for being antisemitic, the obvious hatred for those that used to vote for them? It's always "the left" that have to defend themselves.

I can address it now.  The smears and expulsions of Jewish members is disgusting and the politicking of weak politicians that doesn't have the minerals to properly manage fairness in his own party.  I disagree on the "obvious hatred" this is an interpretation by you, I've received much more "hatred" from people on here "on the lefT" for trying to stop them destroying out own movement than any hatred I've read about from Starmer - in fact I suspect he is very happy for the vast majority of people that used to vote Corbyn to still vote for him as there are 10 million of them!


I think you feel the left has to defend itself, I don't I think it has to get itself in order.  I'm critical of our representatives because they claim to represent me and if they are doing a shit job of it then like anyone else we should be demanding better.

[Buelligan]

Good to see Sir Jim looking well.

Thought that was Rachel Johnson. 

[Psybro]

The notion of Galloway personally arresting grooming gangs (per his bad cop letter posted in the old thread) is tantalising.

[Senior Baiano]

Good vibes only everyone! Fingers crossed this will be a great year for the labour movement 💪💪💪

[Senior Baiano]

The notion of Galloway personally arresting grooming gangs (per his bad cop letter posted in the old thread) is tantalising.

I do hope his voters hold his feet to the fire on this

[Buelligan]

The notion of Galloway personally arresting grooming gangs (per his bad cop letter posted in the old thread) is tantalising.

Someone should buy him a headcam.  Maybe he can get one on expenses out of the £31million they're spending to keep MPs safe.  They get custom-made duck houses on expenses so it seems reasonable.

[iamcoop]

A fantastic year ahead for denim lovers everywhere.

[Buelligan]

[Video Game Fan 2000]

Glasgow Elvis Costello Experience is a HUGE let down

[Butchers Blind]

No idea why he persists in wearing that hat, it doesn't work.

[Shaxberd]

Not sure exactly where to put this but I've been watching Vic Reeves Big Night Out recently and am mesmerised by the horse brass set decoration that's the spitting image of Starmer:

[Senior Baiano]

Worst byelection defeat for labour since the thirties I heard

[king_tubby]

Fuck Galloway.

[Video Game Fan 2000]

im sweating cops tonight

[Fambo Number Mive]

Galloway's promises include having the town hall clock cleaned and bringing a Primark to Rochadale.

Rochdale clearly needs turning round but I don't think Galloway is the person to provide it. I'd rather the ventroliquist's dummy won. Although I do find them a bit creepy.

[king_tubby]

lol

My god, the cope levels are astounding.

[Buelligan]

I'd like to know what this lad reckons the venom is.

[Fambo Number Mive]

News to me that Labour didn't want Rochdale. Hasn't it been Labour for years.

What other seats don't Labour want?

Maybe Starmer should say they didnt want to win the election anyway if Labour lose. And then claim the electorate smell of piss and are as thick as shitty jam. Then have a tantrum.

[Buelligan]

I hear he says we have rubbish tits.

[Shaxberd]

Baffled by how Galloway keeps winning elections, tbh. What does he have that left-wing candidates who aren't shameless self-promoters don't? How does he shrug off his hot takes on Israel and history of hanging out with dodgy Middle Eastern despots when Corbyn was crucified for far less? ...should Jezza have dressed up as a cat?

(Edit: I missed some pretty good discussion on this in the previous thread, bafflement reduced.)

[Buelligan]

No, he should've allowed himself to written off as a bit of a joke instead of standing for the leadership of the Party.

[iamcoop]

He's done it on a single issue platform, clearly.

The two main parties have MASSIVELY underestimated the strength of feeling in this country surrounding the genocide that is being supported and facilitated by the government and Labour, and whilst it may not be enough to completely derail Labour, they're going to take some serious damage in the election if they don't get their shit together.

Streeting could be fucked in his own constituency for example, which would be extremely funny.

[Steve Faeces]

Labour can't seem to make their minds up if this is just a by election and no lessons to be taken or if it's the darkest day for British democracy since the last time they fucked it up.

Be great to get some momentum behind other anti-genocide candidates to target MPs like Streeting and Rushanara Ali where there's a slim chance of peeling off quite a few Labour voters and them losing their seat.

[Buelligan]

Starmer too - https://ocisa.org.uk/the-plan-to-unseat-starmer/

[iamcoop]

Starmer clearly loves the baby-faced yum yum merchant, so if he does get unseated could we see a Cameron-esq LORD STREETING situation just to get him into post?

[Steve Faeces]

Amidst the usual client journalists and Paul Mason wanging on about Russian bots in his desperate and pathetic attempt to be a Labour candidate, a few of the very clever and sensible people have grasped that they might need a different response than George Galloway=badman.

Neal Lawson, director of Compass, the leftwing group committed to more pluralistic politics, says the Rochdale result suggests Labour has been taking its supporters for granted.

We don't know if Rochdale is a blip or part of a more seismic trend in terms of the Muslim community's support for Labour. But our first past the post voting system tends to disguise tectonic shifts in voting behaviours, as we've seen in Scotland and then the red wall.

FPTP encourages Labour to take its big blocks of voters for granted, in the presumption that they have nowhere else to go. The SNP, then Ukip/Brexit and via them the Tories, and now Galloway have proven to be alternatives. Labour MPs and candidates in seats with big Muslim votes will be nervous today. People don't like being taken for granted.

[jobotic]

News to me that Labour didn't want Rochdale. Hasn't it been Labour for years.

What other seats don't Labour want?

All the ones they currently have. Particularly the non-white ones.