Started by touchingcloth, January 13, 2023, 04:45:30 PM
QuoteTesla has cut the prices of its cars in the US and Europe by up to a fifth as it contends with slowing demand and increased competition....The price of the cheapest Model 3 saloon car, the rear-wheel drive version, dropped by £5,500 to £42,990. The cheapest Model Y crossover dropped to £44,990, although the biggest cut was applied to the most expensive Performance version, which dropped by £8,000 to £59,990.In the US the entry-level version of its Model Y now costs $52,990 (£43,526), down from $65,990 – a 20% drop that will mean the vehicle qualifies for US tax credits. The Model 3 dropped to $43,990, a $3,000 reduction.Dan Ives, an analyst at US investment bank Wedbush, said that the US and European price cuts were "eye-popping" and that investors would probably respond negatively. He added that an "EV price war" between manufacturers was now under way.
Quote from: Ant Farm Keyboard on January 13, 2023, 03:37:40 PMTwitter had a few third party clients, particularly on mobile, that allowed users to get rid of the stuff that the official client tended to add to make for a "better" user experience.Since last night, almost all of them can't connect to the user's account, making them totally unusable.https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/13/23553161/third-party-twitter-clients-apps-outage-twitterific-tweetbotIt hasn't been determined if it's a bug or an unannounced policy change. But pissing off the savviest segment of your users isn't exactly the best way to keep them attached.
Quote from: Blumf on January 14, 2023, 11:04:25 AMApplying Hanlon's razor...
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on January 14, 2023, 12:44:48 PMthey've seemingly removed the latest tweets tab so you have to have the bollocks algorithm decide what it shows you now.
Quote from: Proactive on January 14, 2023, 05:05:42 PMI'm getting 89% "you might like" tweets, none of which I've been interested in yet. Why do they have to muck around with things.
Quote from: Blumf on January 13, 2023, 04:55:42 PMhttps://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jan/13/tesla-prices-us-europe-slowing-demand-elon-musk
Quote from: dissolute ocelot on January 14, 2023, 11:38:13 PMWith electricity price rises, petrol prices falling, and lots of places now charging for formerly-free electric car charging, it's definitely less economical to get one than it was. And there seem to be not only reductions in state subsidies (although price cuts help), but also worries that governments are going to start seriously taxing electric cars. It'll be interesting to see if governments go through with plans to ban ICE cars in 2030 or whenever, but that's probably too late to save Tesla.
Quote from: dissolute ocelot on January 14, 2023, 11:38:13 PMbut also worries that governments are going to start seriously taxing electric cars. It'll be interesting to see if governments go through with plans to ban ICE cars in 2030 or whenever, but that's probably too late to save Tesla.
Quote from: Ian Drunken Smurf on January 14, 2023, 08:09:11 PMWondering whether the Europe price cuts is about the fact that in several countries offering EV subsidies the entire Tesla range didn't qualify by being too expensive.
Quote from: touchingcloth on January 15, 2023, 06:36:15 PMWith EVs becoming more commonplace and government subsidies being reduced and rolled back because of that, how screwed are Tesla? As I understand it, the hype has been good for their share price while subsidies have been good for their cash flow, so if they stop coming in does that make it tricky for them to keep the lights on?
Quote from: Mr_Simnock on January 15, 2023, 06:52:50 PMif that was the case how would any other ev car maker fair? and since a lot of the big car companies are heading down this road full throttle then that would mean issues for the entire car industry
Quote from: Urinal Cake on January 15, 2023, 08:27:13 PMWell the thing is Tesla was conceived with taking the whole gamut of subsidies, offset credits, grants etc into account. The other manufacturers just took what they could get. In short they're used to getting minimal government help when they're making petrol and diesel cars so they'll be used to it once it stops for EVs.
Quote from: Mr_Simnock on January 15, 2023, 08:29:56 PMcitation needed, plus I can't think of a car company that hasn't had help one way or another from governments to keep going or invest in a particular country
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