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Matthew Perry - Could I BE any more drowned at the age of 54?

Started by Rizla, October 29, 2023, 01:28:47 AM

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BritishHobo

When Perry did SNL, Norm Macdonald was a bit riled up by the hype around him, and somebody in his circle referring to Chandler's sarcasm as "Matt-speak". I presume this is what led to the Sarcasm 101 sketch, which I often see come up online with people genuinely believing it's a deleted scene from Friends. Even though it's pretty rubbish.

Small Man Big Horse

Variety interviewed Perry's The Odd Couple co-star Thomas Lennon, who gave this clearly very honest and complicated tribute to the man:

QuoteMatthew Perry told me a lot of stories—none of which can be printed in Variety.

Matty lived messy.

Matty had huge feelings and was not afraid to make you a part of those feelings.

A comedy sword-swallower using real swords. The swords hurt.

Matty was a cartoon mascot for anxiety wrapped in the packaging of a matinee idol.

Canadian tennis pro. Heartthrob with a racing heart. Playwright. Accidental superstar.

Matty had a lot of pain. He wore it on his sleeve.

Matty would lend you his jacket which smelled like cigarettes and still had the pain right there on the sleeve.

Matty would lend you cigarettes.

Matty joked when he was worried and he was worried more than you might think.

The butt of Matthew Perry's best jokes was always Matthew Perry.

Matty admitted when he had messed-up which was constantly.

Matty was easy to forgive.

The world that was in the palm of his hand was in a tug-of-war with the world on his shoulders.

Matty was always trying to get better.

Matty was ready to talk.

Matty didn't want to be alone.

Matty wanted to make you laugh even if swallowing the swords hurt.

https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/matthew-perry-thomas-lennon-tribute-remembered-1235774750/

mr. logic

Quote from: BritishHobo on November 08, 2023, 08:35:59 PMWhen Perry did SNL, Norm Macdonald was a bit riled up by the hype around him, and somebody in his circle referring to Chandler's sarcasm as "Matt-speak". I presume this is what led to the Sarcasm 101 sketch, which I often see come up online with people genuinely believing it's a deleted scene from Friends. Even though it's pretty rubbish.

Apparently somebody say to norm, 'Hey come on, Matt's a genius.' To which Norm replied, 'Is he good at math or something?'

Gurke and Hare

Quote from: BritishHobo on November 08, 2023, 08:35:59 PMWhen Perry did SNL, Norm Macdonald was a bit riled up by the hype around him, and somebody in his circle referring to Chandler's sarcasm as "Matt-speak". I presume this is what led to the Sarcasm 101 sketch, which I often see come up online with people genuinely believing it's a deleted scene from Friends. Even though it's pretty rubbish.

Is the premise of this sketch that Chandler's way OF speaking is sarcasm? Because it isn't. You're right, it is rubbish.


Dr Rock

Quote from: Gurke and Hare on November 08, 2023, 11:05:14 PMIs the premise of this sketch that Chandler's way OF speaking is sarcasm? Because it isn't. You're right, it is rubbish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

QuoteSarcasm is the caustic use of words, often in a humorous way, to mock someone or something.[1] Sarcasm may employ ambivalence,[2] although it is not necessarily ironic.[3] Most noticeable in spoken word, sarcasm is mainly distinguished by the inflection with which it is spoken[4] or, with an undercurrent of irony, by the extreme disproportion of the comment to the situation, and is largely context-dependent.

Etymology
The word comes from the Greek σαρκασμός (sarkasmós) which is taken from σαρκάζειν (sarkázein) meaning "to tear flesh, bite the lip in rage, sneer"

Checks out?

jamiefairlie

A proper dictionary says

a way of using words that are the opposite of what you mean in order to be unpleasant to somebody or to make fun of them

Dr Rock

Quote from: jamiefairlie on November 09, 2023, 03:29:59 AMA proper dictionary says

a way of using words that are the opposite of what you mean in order to be unpleasant to somebody or to make fun of them

yeah right.

jamiefairlie

Quote from: Dr Rock on November 09, 2023, 03:32:44 AMyeah right.

No it's wrong actually I was just pretending and you fell for it like the fascist you are!

mr. logic

Quote from: centristmelt on November 09, 2023, 02:10:48 AMMan, I miss Norm.

Can't shake the feeling he's doing everything he can to make that sketch bomb as well.

Icehaven

Quote from: dissolute ocelot on November 08, 2023, 11:30:35 AMA lot of the reviews of his book describe him as being mean to people, even Julia Roberts, whom he broke up with for little reason other than his own insecurities;

Whenever I hear that about him supposedly breaking up with Roberts so she couldn't break up with him first it reminds me of the episode of Friends when Monica bumps into Rachel's ex boyfriend from high school who'd been a popular, handsome jock type, goes on a date with him and then ends it when it turns out he's an immature pillock. She even says something like "Not only did I get to date Chip Matthews, I got to dump Chip Matthews", and it makes you wonder if Perry had any input into that idea. Not that Julia Roberts is an immature pillock, just there's a parallel with dating someone perceived as being way out of your league and yet you're the one that ends the relationship for whatever reason.