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Matthew Perry - Could I BE any more drowned at the age of 54?

Started by Rizla, October 29, 2023, 01:28:47 AM

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BritishHobo

When Perry did SNL, Norm Macdonald was a bit riled up by the hype around him, and somebody in his circle referring to Chandler's sarcasm as "Matt-speak". I presume this is what led to the Sarcasm 101 sketch, which I often see come up online with people genuinely believing it's a deleted scene from Friends. Even though it's pretty rubbish.

Small Man Big Horse

Variety interviewed Perry's The Odd Couple co-star Thomas Lennon, who gave this clearly very honest and complicated tribute to the man:

QuoteMatthew Perry told me a lot of stories—none of which can be printed in Variety.

Matty lived messy.

Matty had huge feelings and was not afraid to make you a part of those feelings.

A comedy sword-swallower using real swords. The swords hurt.

Matty was a cartoon mascot for anxiety wrapped in the packaging of a matinee idol.

Canadian tennis pro. Heartthrob with a racing heart. Playwright. Accidental superstar.

Matty had a lot of pain. He wore it on his sleeve.

Matty would lend you his jacket which smelled like cigarettes and still had the pain right there on the sleeve.

Matty would lend you cigarettes.

Matty joked when he was worried and he was worried more than you might think.

The butt of Matthew Perry's best jokes was always Matthew Perry.

Matty admitted when he had messed-up which was constantly.

Matty was easy to forgive.

The world that was in the palm of his hand was in a tug-of-war with the world on his shoulders.

Matty was always trying to get better.

Matty was ready to talk.

Matty didn't want to be alone.

Matty wanted to make you laugh even if swallowing the swords hurt.

https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/matthew-perry-thomas-lennon-tribute-remembered-1235774750/

mr. logic

Quote from: BritishHobo on November 08, 2023, 08:35:59 PMWhen Perry did SNL, Norm Macdonald was a bit riled up by the hype around him, and somebody in his circle referring to Chandler's sarcasm as "Matt-speak". I presume this is what led to the Sarcasm 101 sketch, which I often see come up online with people genuinely believing it's a deleted scene from Friends. Even though it's pretty rubbish.

Apparently somebody say to norm, 'Hey come on, Matt's a genius.' To which Norm replied, 'Is he good at math or something?'

Gurke and Hare

Quote from: BritishHobo on November 08, 2023, 08:35:59 PMWhen Perry did SNL, Norm Macdonald was a bit riled up by the hype around him, and somebody in his circle referring to Chandler's sarcasm as "Matt-speak". I presume this is what led to the Sarcasm 101 sketch, which I often see come up online with people genuinely believing it's a deleted scene from Friends. Even though it's pretty rubbish.

Is the premise of this sketch that Chandler's way OF speaking is sarcasm? Because it isn't. You're right, it is rubbish.


Dr Rock

Quote from: Gurke and Hare on November 08, 2023, 11:05:14 PMIs the premise of this sketch that Chandler's way OF speaking is sarcasm? Because it isn't. You're right, it is rubbish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

QuoteSarcasm is the caustic use of words, often in a humorous way, to mock someone or something.[1] Sarcasm may employ ambivalence,[2] although it is not necessarily ironic.[3] Most noticeable in spoken word, sarcasm is mainly distinguished by the inflection with which it is spoken[4] or, with an undercurrent of irony, by the extreme disproportion of the comment to the situation, and is largely context-dependent.

Etymology
The word comes from the Greek σαρκασμός (sarkasmós) which is taken from σαρκάζειν (sarkázein) meaning "to tear flesh, bite the lip in rage, sneer"

Checks out?

jamiefairlie

A proper dictionary says

a way of using words that are the opposite of what you mean in order to be unpleasant to somebody or to make fun of them

Dr Rock

Quote from: jamiefairlie on November 09, 2023, 03:29:59 AMA proper dictionary says

a way of using words that are the opposite of what you mean in order to be unpleasant to somebody or to make fun of them

yeah right.

jamiefairlie

Quote from: Dr Rock on November 09, 2023, 03:32:44 AMyeah right.

No it's wrong actually I was just pretending and you fell for it like the fascist you are!

mr. logic

Quote from: centristmelt on November 09, 2023, 02:10:48 AMMan, I miss Norm.

Can't shake the feeling he's doing everything he can to make that sketch bomb as well.

Icehaven

Quote from: dissolute ocelot on November 08, 2023, 11:30:35 AMA lot of the reviews of his book describe him as being mean to people, even Julia Roberts, whom he broke up with for little reason other than his own insecurities;

Whenever I hear that about him supposedly breaking up with Roberts so she couldn't break up with him first it reminds me of the episode of Friends when Monica bumps into Rachel's ex boyfriend from high school who'd been a popular, handsome jock type, goes on a date with him and then ends it when it turns out he's an immature pillock. She even says something like "Not only did I get to date Chip Matthews, I got to dump Chip Matthews", and it makes you wonder if Perry had any input into that idea. Not that Julia Roberts is an immature pillock, just there's a parallel with dating someone perceived as being way out of your league and yet you're the one that ends the relationship for whatever reason. 

Terry Torpid

Toxicology is out. Verdict: loads of ket.

https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/matthew-perry-cause-of-death-ketamine-1235772053/

QuoteMatthew Perry died from "the acute effects of ketamine," according to the toxicology report from the Los Angeles County Medical Examiner's Office.

Perry had been undergoing ketamine infusion therapy prior to his death, reportedly for depression and anxiety. The toxicology report adds: "At the high levels of ketamine found in his postmortem blood specimens, the main lethal effects would be from both cardiovascular overstimulation and respiratory depression."

The contributory factors in Perry's death including, drowning, coronary artery disease, and buprenorphine effects. Buprenorphine is used to ween addicts off opiods.


markburgle

Poor lad. I'd have thought prescribing any sort of fucker-upper to an addict is pretty irresponsible

neov1974

thing I haven't seen in the reports on this is that while he was having ketamine transfusions, the last one he'd had was around 10 days before, and the levels of it in his blood were too high for that to have been his most recent dose. The whole post mortem is on line, which is a curious read albeit a little morbid

kalowski

QuoteThe contributory factors in Perry's death including, drowning
Yeah I'd say drowning would contribute to someone's death.

Maurice Yeatman

In a medical context, rather than the common colloquial sense, 'drowning' can be non-fatal. Same as suffocating.


dissolute ocelot

It sounds like he had heart problems. It's possible when someone drowns for them to actually die of a heart attack, and quite common for someone in water to have a heart attack and drown. Deaths rarely have a single cause. Could this thread be any more fun?

Jack Shaftoe


Terry Torpid

Quote from: neov1974 on December 16, 2023, 10:52:16 AMThe whole post mortem is on line, which is a curious read albeit a little morbid

It's embedded in the article I posted, which surprised me. Usually online papers don't actually bother with primary sources. It says he also had emphysema, liver congestion and diabetes.

imitationleather

Years back there was a spate of people I knew or had mutual friends with taking k in the bath and nearly drowning or actually drowning. At first I thought this news must mean that is what had happened, but if he was having infusions then maybe not.

Elderly Sumo Prophecy


Captain Z

Well, I'm unplugging my Glade Ketamine Infusion and throwing it away right now.

The Bumlord

Still wondering what that Mattman/Batman Instagram stuff was about.

Quote from: imitationleather on December 16, 2023, 01:53:01 PMYears back there was a spate of people I knew or had mutual friends with taking k in the bath and nearly drowning or actually drowning. At first I thought this news must mean that is what had happened, but if he was having infusions then maybe not.
The amount in his system was way beyond the supervised therapeutic amount he'd had a week before. K-holing in a jacuzzi with no one else around is a bit Darwin awards-worthy but feels like a relatively peaceful way to go tbqh, rather that than the impacted colon he had a 2% chance of surviving a few years back

Senior Baiano

Matthew was the first of the Friends
With the smack in his veins
The first to do coke
The first of the Friends to croak
Poor bloke

Maurice Yeatman

"Anonymous friend" of his in a Sunday rag today saying Perry was never clean, despite what he says in his autobiography, always lying to others and himself. But I'll always remember the laughs, he didn't add.

Poor, poor bloke.

I read his autobiog; it was like a trip into hell.

Love a bit of ket now and again but I'll probably avoid mainlining in a hot tub.

jobotic


Jack Shaftoe

So much of that kind of official stuff in the US is accessible by anyone who wants it - I was listening to a podcast by a woman whose boyfriend had attempted to stab her to death, and she was horrified to find out how quickly her phone calls for an ambulance and various statements got published by shitty websites and tabloids, all perfectly legally.

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