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Warner Bros shelves finished Wile E. Coyote feature film as tax write-off

Started by Mister Six, November 10, 2023, 04:38:33 PM

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jamiefairlie

Quote from: BritishHobo on November 14, 2023, 07:46:09 PMWarner Bros have backed down and now won't shelve the film.

Well done Lads!

It's amazing that with this leverage over a multinational media conglomerate the likes of Linehan and Rowling have withstood the obvious might on display.

JK Rowling

dissolute ocelot

Pleased it's not cancelled, although I probably won't watch it. But surely some disgruntled worker would leak the film eventually? Is their security that good they can stop even the most resentful employee? Can films really sit in a vault totally unseen in the modern digital era?

Famous Mortimer

Quote from: dissolute ocelot on November 15, 2023, 11:26:08 AMPleased it's not cancelled, although I probably won't watch it. But surely some disgruntled worker would leak the film eventually? Is their security that good they can stop even the most resentful employee? Can films really sit in a vault totally unseen in the modern digital era?
Did the Batgirl movie ever get leaked?

MojoJojo

With Batgirl, it was in post production and reportedly some scenes remained to be shot. So there has never actually been a complete film to watch.

Ferris

Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on November 10, 2023, 07:59:11 PMMy guess would be due to how hollywood accounting tries to make sure no film really makes a profit on paper a junked movie can have massively inflated costs that syphon cash out and the funds can be recouped from a picture that overshot the accounting forecasts maybe.

This is probably the case, like a boring version of The Producers.

Ignatius_S

Quote from: dissolute ocelot on November 15, 2023, 11:26:08 AMPleased it's not cancelled, although I probably won't watch it. But surely some disgruntled worker would leak the film eventually? Is their security that good they can stop even the most resentful employee? Can films really sit in a vault totally unseen in the modern digital era?

Yeah, I mean someone is bound to think 'you know, I never want to work in this industry and face legal issues that will ruin my life.'

Ignatius_S

Quote from: Ferris on November 15, 2023, 05:27:57 PMThis is probably the case, like a boring version of The Producers.

I believe that Emo Phillips has said that he's yet to receive any money from the remake of Meet the Parents as according to the accountants, it's yet to make a profit.

Famous Mortimer

Quote from: MojoJojo on November 15, 2023, 05:05:47 PMWith Batgirl, it was in post production and reportedly some scenes remained to be shot. So there has never actually been a complete film to watch.
I didn't realise @dissolute ocelot was only referring to completely finished movies.

From reading the article about "Batgirl", it seems like it would be quite easy to stop people from ever seeing something. All footage gets uploaded to servers, you can only view / edit footage while logged in, change a few passwords and it's gone forever. Sort of a moot point now we're getting the full Wile E Coyote experience soon, I suppose.

Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: Famous Mortimer on November 15, 2023, 05:45:00 PMI didn't realise @dissolute ocelot was only referring to completely finished movies.

From reading the article about "Batgirl", it seems like it would be quite easy to stop people from ever seeing something. All footage gets uploaded to servers, you can only view / edit footage while logged in, change a few passwords and it's gone forever. Sort of a moot point now we're getting the full Wile E Coyote experience soon, I suppose.

And that's with an active project, no reason to give people access to a locked film that's vaulted.

Of course workprints still have been known to leak. But it wouldn't surprise me if they watermark them these days.

Of course what can be possible isn't always the case, and with work farmed between different parties, contractors and subcontractors there's always weak links and security protocol can get dropped quick when expediency is the priority.

Petey Pate

Curmudgeonly animation critic Amid Amidi has seen the film and liked it, which has increased my curiosity as the man usually hates the majority of modern mainstream animation.

https://www.cartoonbrew.com/feature-film/i-saw-coyote-vs-acme-and-its-as-wonderful-as-everyone-says-it-is-234963.html

dissolute ocelot

Quote from: Ignatius_S on November 15, 2023, 05:34:15 PMYeah, I mean someone is bound to think 'you know, I never want to work in this industry and face legal issues that will ruin my life.'
You'd think if someone was pissed enough about their masterpiece never being released, they might fancy destroying their career, quit animation, and go work on a farm. No idea how good their security is, and if they could trace it to an individual though.

Mister Six

Probably wouldn't want to work on a farm just to pay back the $30 million that Warners will sue them for, plus whatever prison time comes from corporate espionage or theft charges or whatever Warners can persuade the DA to hit them with though.