Started by Lewman, November 16, 2023, 10:31:40 PM
Quote from: MoreauVasz on November 20, 2023, 06:32:20 PMDavidson used to be on TV all the time but rather than freshen up his act
Quote from: Terry Torpid on November 21, 2023, 10:39:16 AMI don't think that the act, even if freshened up, would be good enough to keep him on the box. There are two problems, the bigoted attitudes that run throughout his work, and the fact he's just not very funny. Some of those old racist comedians at least had good timing, charisma, stage presence, or so the story goes. Davidson is just crap, regardless of PC considerations.
Quote from: Terry Torpid on November 21, 2023, 10:39:16 AMI don't think that the act, even if freshened up, would be good enough to keep him on the box. There are two problems, the bigoted attitudes that run throughout his work, and the fact he's just not very funny.
Quote from: MoreauVasz on November 21, 2023, 05:05:59 PMI remember him having a sitcom and I remember that he kept doing Chalky White every time someone stuck a microphone under his nose. I remember that seeming racist even by the standards of the 1980s. You still had a lot of blackface on TV but Davidson seemed really old fashioned in believing that a shit Jamaican accent was enough to sustain a career.Does anyone remember what his stand-up was like back then? my impression is that, like the comedians who were a bit older than him, he failed to change with the times, got incredibly resentful, and then leaned into being incredibly racist while playing to smaller and smaller and older and older audiences.
Quote from: Ignatius_S on November 21, 2023, 08:59:29 PMSo basically, a lot of things going wrong, not just 'he couldn't change his act.
QuoteDavidson had downed several bottles of white wine and port with 23 of his guests on the top table before launching into his controversial one-man show.
QuoteFour-times married Davidson, who credits the Masons with helping him beat alcoholism
Quote from: thenoise on November 22, 2023, 09:34:27 PMI thought it was around the time he stopped being Worshipful Master of the Chelsea Freemason's Lodge, after a fruity routine during a ladies night went down like a lead balloon.Joking about beating his wife in his autobiography probably didn't help matters either.
Quote from: Ignatius_S on November 22, 2023, 09:53:47 PMalthough from what I've heard previously, he didn't joke about domestic violence but admitted it. However, when being interviewed by Piers Morgan 15 years or so, I believe he talked very flippantly and joked about claims by ex-wife (one of them) Alison Holloway.
Quote from: Wifebeating Bigot's AutobiographyOn the first occasion, I poked her in the eye by accident. I actually went for the mouth. Thank heaven I missed, I'd have fallen in. I just took a playful punch. Unfortunately I caught her completely wrong. The second time I gave her a shiner. I threw a bunch of keys which whacked her in the eye. Just for a giggle she kept blackening it up to make it look worse.
Quote from: Terry Torpid on November 23, 2023, 10:32:53 AMThe bit about falling in could count as a "joke".
Quote from: Terry Torpid on November 23, 2023, 10:32:53 AMThe bit about falling in could count as a "joke".I mercifully didn't see his BB comeback attempt, but I did see him on some Gordon Ramsey celeb cooking contest thing, which included Brian Dowling who was on BB previously. Davidson was his usual caveman self, calling him a shirt-lifter and that kind of thing. The rest of the cast turned against Davidson, and he got the hump, acting like the victim because they were "discriminating" against him as a homophobe. Absolute crybully.
QuoteAccording to the leading public relations consultant Mark Borkowski, it is this "wronged man" narrative, allied to some people's scorn for "political correctness", that has helped Davidson to turn round his career. "There was already sympathy for Davidson because he's been through a lot and Channel 5 had to drop him last year," Borkowski said. "He found a new, younger audience in the show because he's able to say things that someone a third of his age wouldn't get away with. It's likely that Richard Desmond wanted the channel to favour him and Channel 5 will be looking to structure new formats around Davidson."...There remains frustration among Davidson's contemporaries that a brilliant comedy talent has been frittered away because of views that many people find objectionable. Bennett Arron, an award-winning stand-up who wrote for Davidson, recalled the star once telling a racist joke over drinks in the bar before recording a show. Bennett was appalled, but he recalled: "From the moment the first words appeared on the autocue he nailed it. Every punchline was perfect, every ad-lib very funny. I have never seen such incredible comedy timing."Borkowski is sceptical about the longevity of Davidson's late bid for "national treasure" status. "Jim has dug a lot of graves for himself in the past," he said. "He is nitroglycerin – he could explode at any time." And while Desmond may have ambitious plans for Davidson, the bigger broadcasters may still steer clear.
Quote from: gilbertharding on November 23, 2023, 04:07:46 PMBasically he's the Bizarro Robin Asquith who signed a pact with the devil for a hugely successful Light Entertainment career but couldn't seem to accept it was over.I mean, he might not have been bitter about it at first, but he certainly seems to be now.
Quote from: Ignatius_S on November 23, 2023, 06:20:22 PMThanks for that! Do you know which one of his autobiographies that's from?
QuoteMichael Parrish 07/12/2022★★★★★Good old fashioned entertainment at its best.
QuoteNicky 30/06/2023★★★★★I dont need to watch this to give it a review. Itl be fantastic. Just listening to jim advertising it, makes me laugh. Hes the best ever. Love yer Jim.
QuoteAlan Voltaire 27/09/2023★✩✩✩✩Was really excited to order my Ustreme USB Flash Drive Pre-loaded With Your Favourite Show to only then find that I had to select one of Jim Davidson's comedy specials.
Quote from: Kankurette on November 23, 2023, 07:18:47 PMDavidson is a name that crops up a lot in threads about bad celebrity encounters.
Quote from: Terry Torpid on November 23, 2023, 06:49:52 PMChrist, I didn't know the annals of Davidson spanned multiple volumes! I've had a google and it looks like it's from The Full Monty (1994).At first, I assumed the title was cashing in on the film (though I know it was an existing phrase) but that didn't come out till 1997.
Quote from: Terry Torpid on November 23, 2023, 07:08:21 PMLooking at his website, some of his DVD covers have an unsettling "porn parody" vibe.
Quote from: kngen on November 22, 2023, 02:18:54 PMI seem to remember he had a series* of stand-up concerts broadcast on BBC in the late 90s (in a similar slot to Live at the Apollo - could it have been some kind of contractual obligation forced on the Beeb after axing Big Break/Generation Game? It seemed very at odds with the attempts at inclusivity and multiculturalism the BBC was adopting at the time.)
Quote from: Rolf Lundgren on November 24, 2023, 06:02:11 PMHe always used to finish on a song on the stand up show though and do his "But seriously" bit. One time he brought his son out to do a duet of Father and Son which was exactly as you'd imagine.
Quote from: jobotic on November 24, 2023, 06:31:07 PMI'd imagine it was heartwarming. Was it?
Quote from: Maurice Yeatman on November 24, 2023, 07:01:57 PMThis son?
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