Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga (2024)

[samadriel]

Looking forward to this. The timeline is interesting though.

Spoiler alert

Did "the collapse" happen before or after the first Mad Max film? If after, then the Max from Fury Road is a different Max to films 1-3

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The whole series is meant to be continuity-shunning, each movie a new legend of the Road Warrior. There's no way the bizarro world of Fury Road could be in the same lifetime as the original MM. And while technically between MM1 and FR he could've met, befriended and lost the little girl and bearded old Aboriginal man from his flashbacks, it felt to me like they were meant to be familial figures whom he lost in his original fall. (IIRC, the child Max loses in MM1 was a boy, and you'd think if MM1 Max was the same as FR Max, he'd be hallucinating his late wife too.)

[Pavlov`s Dog`s Dad`s Dead]

I don't quite get why the love for Fury Road is as great as it is but I don't think it's shit either, cheers.

Because it was better than Thunderdome, I guess. Although I still reckon Thunderdome isn't as woeful as many people seem to make out - see for example the point earlier in this thread about odd-numbered instalments being worse than the even-numbered ones: that's clearly a reference to 3, because 1 is an incredible piece of world-building and kinetic action, no less than 2. 

Fury Road won me over, despite the fact that I'd been prepared to hate it when I saw the original leaks of the  vehicle designs - I'd had a similar response as to when Games Workshop went all out for the teen pound by going all chaos-spiky-bits.

[Fambo Number Mive]

The whole series is meant to be continuity-shunning, each movie a new legend of the Road Warrior. There's no way the bizarro world of Fury Road could be in the same lifetime as the original MM. And while technically between MM1 and FR he could've met, befriended and lost the little girl and bearded old Aboriginal man from his flashbacks, it felt to me like they were meant to be familial figures whom he lost in his original fall. (IIRC, the child Max loses in MM1 was a boy, and you'd think if MM1 Max was the same as FR Max, he'd be hallucinating his late wife too.)

That's a good point.

[Pavlov`s Dog`s Dad`s Dead]

The whole series is meant to be continuity-shunning, each movie a new legend of the Road Warrior. There's no way the bizarro world of Fury Road could be in the same lifetime as the original MM. And while technically between MM1 and FR he could've met, befriended and lost the little girl and bearded old Aboriginal man from his flashbacks, it felt to me like they were meant to be familial figures whom he lost in his original fall. (IIRC, the child Max loses in MM1 was a boy, and you'd think if MM1 Max was the same as FR Max, he'd be hallucinating his late wife too.)

The last of the V8 interceptors hasn't really let itself go in Fury Road, despite exploding two instalments earlier in a pretty neat iteration of Chekhov's gun when Max's initial escape attempt from the refinery doesn't exactly go to plan.

[Fambo Number Mive]

I really like the first part of Thunderdome, Bartertown is a fascinating place.

[Sebastian Cobb]

Yeah, the first part of the film is really promising.

[jfjnpxmy]

I've been waiting for 12 years now for Hemsworth to live up to his potential and I've now concluded that he's Shite.

Seeing him ponce around with a big prosthetic on like some Proper Actor put me right off this.

But George Miller's great and I love explosions and loud engines so I'll watch it.

You're all welcome.

[phantom_power]

He has made some dodgy choices but I think Hemsworth is always good in whatever he does

[Ja'moke]

Fury Road is one of the only films I went to cinema to see twice.

I'm a little worried that this trailer looks a heavier on the CGI, but will keep cautiously optimistic.

[druss]

Because it was better than Thunderdome, I guess. Although I still reckon Thunderdome isn't as woeful as many people seem to make out - see for example the point earlier in this thread about odd-numbered instalments being worse than the even-numbered ones: that's clearly a reference to 3, because 1 is an incredible piece of world-building and kinetic action, no less than 2. 
 

1 is fine but I'd still have it below 2 and 4. When I first saw Thunderdome I liked the first half but on a recent rewatch even that was rough compared to 2 and 4.

[Mister Six]

Surely the trailer uses temp VFX that will be spruced up for the actual feature? Fury Road was full of CGI and that looked great and worked almost seamlessly with the practical FX.

Most of the Fury Road CGI was augmenting what was there - flip a real truck, but reposition it in the frame, add bigger, more impressive mountains to the edges of the road, that kind of thing. Most of the impressive stunts and nutty cars were real.

However, it also sounded like a gruelling shoot and George Miller is 78, so can't blame him for wanting to take it a little bit easier.

I'm sure the CGI will be polished up a ton before the film comes out.

[Mister Six]

Fury Road worked because it was full of mental stuff we hadn't seen before. If Miller doesn't have other people putting in new ideas, he repeats himself (ie Beyond Thunderdome's big final chase just being the same as Mad Max 2 only with a train), only with this he doesn't have the get-out of fans saying "they're the same because they're all meant to be versions of the same legend"

It's being co-written with Nick Lathouris, who also wrote Fury Road.

The big concern is that it (seemingly) doesn't include Brendan McCarthy, visionary artist and Fury Road co-writer whose paint-slicked fingerprints are all over Fury Road, but who got pissed off with Miller saying there wasn't a script. Those stilt-lads you glimpse for a second are pure McCarthy weirdness.

Some now-deleted tweets from McCarthy on this topic quoted here: https://theplaylist.net/mad-max-fury-road-no-script-story-20201015/

[13 schoolyards]

The whole series is meant to be continuity-shunning, each movie a new legend of the Road Warrior. There's no way the bizarro world of Fury Road could be in the same lifetime as the original MM. And while technically between MM1 and FR he could've met, befriended and lost the little girl and bearded old Aboriginal man from his flashbacks, it felt to me like they were meant to be familial figures whom he lost in his original fall. (IIRC, the child Max loses in MM1 was a boy, and you'd think if MM1 Max was the same as FR Max, he'd be hallucinating his late wife too.)

There's a bunch of comics that're supposedly based on deleted stuff from the Fury Road script where Max meets and befriends the characters he sees in the film's flashbacks, and they're meant to take place in the wasteland before Fury Road. I think a lot of the problem is that the script was originally put together a decade or more before it was filmed, and was meant to have Gibson still playing Max - it would have made sense as another stand alone installment with him, but with a younger actor the timing just doesn't work.

And yeah, it does seem like McCarthy was largely erased from the Fury Road publicity, considering (according to him at least) he was a major driving force behind a lot of the ideas and even getting Miller to seriously consider a fourth film. But it seems like McCarthy's contribution was also a long time before the film was actually made - he's recently said he's not up to drawing comics any more, so how much he would have been able to contribute to Furiosa (which going by the trailer, seems to mostly recycle the look of Fury Road) is up in the air.

Timeline-wise, I always figured the collapse or whatever happened before the first Mad Max - even for Australia, things have clearly gone backwards, but there was still shreds of civilisation trying to hold on. For all we know, there's still semi-functioning cities in MM2, as it's clearly set in "the wasteland" and it's not until Thunderdome that they go "yep, Sydney's definitely fucked".

Thunderdome's view of a dried-up Sydney Harbour ties-in with those recent Mad Max comics (I think it's the one giving the backstory of Immortan Joe), as the setting of Fury Road is meant to be far beyond the current coast of Australia - the oceans have receded exposing this massive flat plain perfect for drag racing and hooning about, though how an oil refinery and weapons factory got out there who knows. Built around stranded ships maybe?

[Elderly Sumo Prophecy]

Loved that weird guitar fella in Fury Road.

[phantom_power]

Loved that weird guitar fella in Fury Road.

Call him by his name, The Doof Warrior

[Mr Trumpet]

I read a fan theory that Hardy's Max is actually the Feral Kid from the older films

[Dex Sawash]

Gonna need a thread for Fury Road dislikers to moan in but can't  be bothered to start it. 

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Fury road is shit because putting cars on top of other cars is shit for chilren who have not seen porn.

It's Adam and Eve not Audi and <googles car brands and ashamedly inserts> Exceed

[Glebe]

Yeah Fury Road was a surprize delight, really enjoyed it in IMAX, this looks like it could be a bit 'more of the same' but with diminishing returns. We'll see!

[Elderly Sumo Prophecy]

You met post-apocalyptic Australia's maddest man....

Well now you've got post-apocalyptic Australia's maddest woman

Coming soon to a theater near you

[Blumf]

Nah mate. She's not mad, she's furious!

[Shaky]

I read a fan theory that Hardy's Max is actually the Feral Kid from the older films

Yeah, but he's not.

[Fambo Number Mive]

Just on Mad Max, I found an interesting podcast yesterday that looks at many of the characters from the films in detail:

https://neozaz.com/category/mad-max-in-character/

As I'm fascinated by the Mad Max films, in particular 1 and 2, spent a lot of today listening to it.

They should do Robocop next.

[bgmnts]

I really like the first part of Thunderdome, Bartertown is a fascinating place.

It has all the pieces:

Tina Turner - ace
Master Blaster - ace
THUNDERDOME - ace
Barter Town - ace
Man with doll on stick on his head - ace

Even a tribe of kids who've survived the armageddon with their own stupid mythology and prophecy is fun.

But it just doesn't work. I like it though.

[greenman]

It has all the pieces:

Tina Turner - ace
Master Blaster - ace
THUNDERDOME - ace
Barter Town - ace
Man with doll on stick on his head - ace

Even a tribe of kids who've survived the armageddon with their own stupid mythology and prophecy is fun.

But it just doesn't work. I like it though.

Definately enough there for a fun watch but I think the MTV tone just doesnt match with the material very well. The again I spose I think you could argue that part of whats kept Millers career interesting is that he's often shifted his directing style but its sometimes been a bit hit and miss whether it matches the films or not, Fury Road I think it did perfectly but perhaps not with this film?

Thats surely preferable to turning into latter day RIdley Scott.

[Elderly Sumo Prophecy]

Trufax: the actor who played Master also appeared in Freaks (1932).

[13 schoolyards]

Thunderdome starts off great but then once Max gets exiled into the desert it just falls apart. Weird wasteland culture has always been a part of the franchise (well, since the second film), but a little goes a long way and the whole lost tribe of kids just kills the movie's momentum dead.

What it needed was for Max to find a lost tribe of hoons in the desert with even more mental cars so they could race back to Bartertown and oh wait that's Fury Road

[MojoJojo]

Somehow the trailer plays with bars at the sides and top and bottom, which annoys me. I assume it's deliberate, probably supposed to make it look more cinematic.

A lot of references to Mad Max 2 - I first noticed it with compound walls, but then there's the oil tanker with the turret on it and the flying contraption.

[Mister Six]

Somehow the trailer plays with bars at the sides and top and bottom, which annoys me. I assume it's deliberate, probably supposed to make it look more cinematic.

If you're on mobile you can expand it to full screen by zooming in with your thumbs. Dunno how it'd work on laptop though.

[druss]

Rewatched Fury Road and it was a bit shitter than I remembered, looks amazing of course and the action sequences are some of the best this century, but Tom Hardy was a bit rubbish as Max and any time the film tried for emotional impact it was cringe.

[Glebe]

New trailer:

Hope this is fun and not shit.