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Title: The Good Place
Post by: phantom_power on September 21, 2017, 01:12:55 PM
The new series has just started and series 1 has just come onto Netflix, with season 2 starting soon, keeping pace with the US showing I imagine. They have it badged as a "Netflix Original" as well, the cheeky blighters
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Utter Shit on September 21, 2017, 01:25:38 PM
Brilliant show. The best Yank sitcom in years. Ted Danson is so good.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: brat-sampson on September 21, 2017, 01:32:34 PM
I wasn't expecting S2 on Netflix this soon (basically day and date with the US and will be for the rest of the season.)

Rule one will be that for anyone dropping in, you *have* to start from the start. S2 begins with 'Chapters 14 and 15' for a reason. The show has an engaging and twisty plot as well as being a good comedy, so avoid reading much on the new season if you can help it.

So yeah, I enjoyed this new opener, it got through a bunch of stuff faster than I expected it to. I wasn't keen on Mr Bitey, but everyone else in those roles did a great job. The main stars are all still fun characters and yeah, I'm really interested to see where this goes, even if I wouldn't name it as the funniest show.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on September 21, 2017, 03:55:06 PM
I wasn't expecting S2 on Netflix this soon (basically day and date with the US and will be for the rest of the season.)

Rule one will be that for anyone dropping in, you *have* to start from the start. S2 begins with 'Chapters 14 and 15' for a reason. The show has an engaging and twisty plot as well as being a good comedy, so avoid reading much on the new season if you can help it.

So yeah, I enjoyed this new opener, it got through a bunch of stuff faster than I expected it to. I wasn't keen on Mr Bitey, but everyone else in those roles did a great job. The main stars are all still fun characters and yeah, I'm really interested to see where this goes, even if I wouldn't name it as the funniest show.

I agree with all of that bar that I find it very very funny stuff and up their with the best sitcoms around at the moment. I just love the feel and the tone of the piece, and it ups my mood no end.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Alberon on September 23, 2017, 11:16:21 PM
I got through the first season just a month or so back (but sadly had been spoiled for the final episode). The new direction season two is taking is interesting and I wonder where it will lead.

My general guess, and it's totally a guess, is that Michael, hit with repeated failures, will have to bring the four humans in on the scheme to fake a success and save himself.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: kidsick5000 on September 24, 2017, 04:43:54 PM
I was worried that season two would be too much of a retread.
But that was really interesting.

I reckon you are right, Alberon. Michael may even find that he has to make a genuine good place for the humans. 
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Ant Farm Keyboard on September 25, 2017, 02:06:09 PM
I loved that the mood in the workforce makes it a living hell for Michael to be the boss there.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: kngen on September 25, 2017, 05:24:46 PM
Watched this last night (after just finishing S1, somehow managing to be blissfully ignorant of the twist) - I'm really interested to see where they go with this.

Prob belongs in the 'Comedy lines that just tickle the shit out you' thread - but the missus got quite annoyed with me because I just couldn't stop laughing at Michael's 'I may have accidentally kicked your dog into the sun' line from S1E1*. She was lying with her head in my lap at the time, so the violent convulsions were probably quite irritating, but that got me, that did - hooo yes. Still sets me off now and then.

Great to finally see Ted Danson in something that doesn't totally waste his talents (Edit: comedically, I mean and CYE aside. He was of course brilliant in Fargo - is Bored to Death worth a watch?) - makes me want to watch Cheers again, which is no bad thing.

*As someone pointed out on the AV Club, who would kick a dog apart from an utter heel? It was right in front of us from the start!
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on September 25, 2017, 08:57:41 PM
Watched this last night (after just finishing S1, somehow managing to be blissfully ignorant of the twist) - I'm really interested to see where they go with this.

Prob belongs in the 'Comedy lines that just tickle the shit out you' thread - but the missus got quite annoyed with me because I just couldn't stop laughing at Michael's 'I may have accidentally kicked your dog into the sun' line from S1E1*. She was lying with her head in my lap at the time, so the violent convulsions were probably quite irritating, but that got me, that did - hooo yes. Still sets me off now and then.

Great to finally see Ted Danson in something that doesn't totally waste his talents (Edit: comedically, I mean and CYE aside. He was of course brilliant in Fargo - is Bored to Death worth a watch?) - makes me want to watch Cheers again, which is no bad thing.

*As someone pointed out on the AV Club, who would kick a dog apart from an utter heel? It was right in front of us from the start!

I really enjoyed Bored to Death, but then I'm a big fan of Jonathan Ames' writing in general, to the extent that I was one of the five people who watched and enjoyed Blunt Talk.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: amnesiac on September 26, 2017, 04:38:54 PM
I'd heard good things about this so I watched the Netflix trailer and there's a bit where the guy says to the Frozen-voice lady "wait, what?" and I was all like fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck off mate, I hate that bloody shit cliche shit.

So it's proper good though yeah?
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: brat-sampson on September 26, 2017, 07:53:55 PM
It's better than that two-word line would lead you to think, yes.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: remedial_gash on September 26, 2017, 10:05:23 PM
I really enjoyed Bored to Death, but then I'm a big fan of Jonathan Ames' writing in general, to the extent that I was one of the five people who watched and enjoyed Blunt Talk.

Get to fuck, I loved hard talk - was it cancelled? and I loved 'bored to death' - oh come on.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Ant Farm Keyboard on September 26, 2017, 10:35:32 PM
Blunt Talk was basically ordered for two seasons just on the strength of Seth MacFarlane's name. He wanted to give Patrick Stewart a comedy show, and he asked around for projects. Jonathan Ames had this idea, MacFarlane talked Starz into producing two seasons even before the pilot aired, but the ratings were always disastrous, so they never considered committing to a third season.

There are still talks of a Bored to Death feature on HBO that would tie a few loose ends, but it looks like it's about as advanced as the Deadwood film.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: remedial_gash on September 27, 2017, 09:55:32 AM
Wow, it bombed? There were so many interesting characters. Arse!
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: hewantstolurkatad on September 27, 2017, 11:27:38 AM
Enjoyed season one a lot and they took a really interesting direction to go with season two, although I've doubts as to where they can go beyond a second season. Really enjoyed the first episode of season 2, kinda surprised they blew their load so fast but I guess the note may've limited where they could go this season (assuming they're gonna find stuff out pretty fast regardless, just not /that/ fast)
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Ant Farm Keyboard on September 27, 2017, 11:57:11 AM
Enjoyed season one a lot and they took a really interesting direction to go with season two, although I've doubts as to where they can go beyond a second season. Really enjoyed the first episode of season 2, kinda surprised they blew their load so fast but I guess the note may've limited where they could go this season (assuming they're gonna find stuff out pretty fast regardless, just not /that/ fast)

The sheet of paper was the kind of stuff that was necessary to give the audience in between seasons some note of hope for the characters who were about to get their memories erased. Without that, you had to rely on the trust that they would still be somewhat better people, but there was nothing material to signify it.

I guess that the aborted second take that was shown during the premiere served two purposes. First of all, it allowed them to  close the "Find Chidi" storyline fast, rather than relying for too long on a gimmick. Second of all, it may have put in place some thematic elements that will persist during the rest of the season. Given how fast Eleanor was able to contain her previous instincts and uncover the truth, it's obvious that she's a changed and improved person. Then, we've seen that Michael is surrounded by a less than enthusiast crew that bungles his instructions and he's in a delicate situation with his supervisor. This won't change even with take three.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: remedial_gash on September 29, 2017, 03:30:12 AM
Just rewatched s1 on Netflix, and there are so many clues, it really is bloody amazing. Much better on a re-watch.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: phantom_power on September 29, 2017, 08:47:58 AM
Is Janet in on it? I have rewatched bits of it on Netflix as the kids are watching it and there seems to be a lot of scenes of Michael acting "in character" when none of the four humans are around
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: phes on September 29, 2017, 11:44:39 AM
I watched two episodes and thought it was jank

Am i just not getting it. Have I shot-off prematurely?
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: brat-sampson on September 29, 2017, 12:03:11 PM
I'd say try one more. You'll know when the actual plot kicks in and the show improves from there.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on September 29, 2017, 10:46:10 PM
Is Janet in on it? I have rewatched bits of it on Netflix as the kids are watching it and there seems to be a lot of scenes of Michael acting "in character" when none of the four humans are around

I don't think she is, but I couldn't say for certain.

As for the latest episode: I'm amazed Sean hasn't popped by at any point to check that all's going to plan, given how convinced he was that it was going to fail it seems a bit odd / off that he hasn't done so.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Ja'moke on September 30, 2017, 12:25:31 AM
I don't think she is, but I couldn't say for certain.

As for the latest episode: I'm amazed Sean hasn't popped by at any point to check that all's going to plan, given how convinced he was that it was going to fail it seems a bit odd / off that he hasn't done so.

Maybe it'll turn out it's a bad place for Michael and his constant failure is his eternal punishment.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on September 30, 2017, 11:16:20 AM
Maybe it'll turn out it's a bad place for Michael and his constant failure is his eternal punishment.

That had crossed my mind but given that it was his own idea originally I'm not quite sure that works.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: phantom_power on September 30, 2017, 11:55:57 AM
That had crossed my mind but given that it was his own idea originally I'm not quite sure that works.

Couldn't that be part of the hell though? That he is trapped in his own idea, his own bravado?
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Alberon on September 30, 2017, 06:45:23 PM
I got through the first season just a month or so back (but sadly had been spoiled for the final episode). The new direction season two is taking is interesting and I wonder where it will lead.

My general guess, and it's totally a guess, is that <spoiler> Michael, hit with repeated failures, will have to bring the four humans in on the scheme to fake a success and save himself.</spoiler>

Second episode was really good and <spoiler>boiled through the continual reboots before ending up with the proposed alliance I guessed last week. The disgust Michael showed when Jason managed to figure it out in one attempt was very funny.</spoiler>
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Paaaaul on October 01, 2017, 05:14:09 PM
I watched two episodes and thought it was jank

Am i just not getting it. Have I shot-off prematurely?
I'm currently watching episode 4.

It's not very good.

Most of the cast are hammy as fuck. The jokes are phenomenally weak. The episodic stories are so hacky they wouldn't be out of place in Two And A Half Men.
But the main story is quite intriguing, so I'll probably keep going for a few more episodes.

Edit: the fact that many jokes' punchlines are celebrity names is a huge red flag.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Ja'moke on October 02, 2017, 12:52:02 AM
I'd agree that I don't find the show particularly funny, although the first two episodes of Season 2 made me laugh much more than any Season 1 episode, so maybe it's improving. But yeah, the story is intriguing and the world they've created is compelling.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: kidsick5000 on October 02, 2017, 01:48:57 PM
It's always an awkward situation to have to recommend a comedy that doesn't carry many belly laughs
but the Good Place is beautifully crafted. I love the situation and the characters are well rounded.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on October 06, 2017, 02:02:32 PM
I don't know, I find myself laughing out loud a good few times per episode, and it makes me smile a great deal so I've no issue recommending it. The world building is just superb on this, unlike anything I've seen before, and the big end of season one twist is one of my favourite sitcom moments of the past decade. Plus Ted Danson is such a delight to watch, his performance makes me grin throughout.

As for S02E04, despite being a bit of a bottle episode I loved it a great deal, especially the moment Janet turns up with Eleanor's cocaine, I knew the joke was coming but the timing was perfect.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Brundle-Fly on October 06, 2017, 04:29:18 PM
Watched the trailer, looks good. The idea reminds me of that old The Twilight Zone episode A Nice Place To Visit
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: touchingcloth on October 08, 2017, 01:46:36 PM
I watched two episodes and thought it was jank

Am i just not getting it. Have I shot-off prematurely?

I wasn’t particularly enjoying it after two episodes but carried on through not having anything better to do, and was hooked by about episode 6 which is when the main characters’ narratives start to weave together. Definitely worth sticking out, because I’m now at the point where I’m waiting impatiently for the next episode having not realised that the second series is going up weekly.

I won’t say much more, because it’s hard to say much without spoilering some key elements, and I’m really glad that I came to this show literally knowing nothing more than it being a sitcom starring Danson and Bell. I will say that it’s not laugh a minute Seinfeld type fare, but that’s not really what they’re aiming for and it’s no less enjoyable for providing an interesting and well realised world rather than just a string of gags.

The cast is very strong, but infant decide if Jameela Jamil is giving a convincing performance of a nuts and aloof privileged woman a la Big Suze, or is just a slightly ropey actor. I’m enjoying her character, but I don’t know if I’m enjoying it in the way that’s intended.

On the “Netflix Originals” thing, apparently they use that for stuff they’ve funded the production of either solely or in part, or - as is the case with The Good Place - for things they are the sole streaming distributor of. Which is dodgy, aye.

New page afterlife cunt.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: remedial_gash on October 08, 2017, 03:25:34 PM
I didn't know of her before this, but she does seem somewhat ropey, though I'm not sure it matters in this context - she's an alien. I'm not sure Chidi is very good either - but the story is compelling enough.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: touchingcloth on October 08, 2017, 04:07:10 PM
She was familiar to me, but it took me ages to realise that I recognised her from an episode of Room 101. She’s a DJ as far as I can tell, no real acting credits to her name prior to this.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: phantom_power on October 08, 2017, 06:27:02 PM
She was a presenter on Channel 4 for a while.

The actor who plays Chidi is great
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Alberon on October 08, 2017, 08:55:59 PM
I think they’re all forking great.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: touchingcloth on October 08, 2017, 09:15:52 PM
Part of the fun for me and my partner is that we actually met each other on another forum whilst railing against a newly introduced “won’t someone think of the children?!” policy which saw all swears being swapped for less rude words, one substitution of which was “fork” for “fuck”. The filter they implemented was a bit forked, though, because any string which included a swear was replaced wholesale with the substitute word rather than just the sweary substring so that, for instance, “why the fucking fuck would I want to go to fucking shitty fucking Scunthorpe like some fucking shitty fucking cunt who likes shit like fucking Scunthorpe fuck’s sake” would be rendered as “why the fork fork would I want to go to fucking sugar fork chard like some fork sugar fork chard who likes sugar like fork chard fork sake”.

LOLRANDOM
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Hemulen on October 09, 2017, 11:23:11 AM
This is a real gem of a show, isn't it? Whilst I'd agree that it's by no means a gagfest, the mix of breezy silliness with rock solid serialised sci-fi/mystery elements totally won me over within a few episodes. Has anything like this ever been attempted before? A kind of comedy version of Lost, for want of a better comparison?

Also, D'Arcy Carden's performance as Janet is a constant delight. She just nails every mad little thing the writers throw at her.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: touchingcloth on October 09, 2017, 11:48:32 AM
Great shout on it being the comedy equivalent of Lost. That’s exactly what it is, a load of oddball fishes out of water forced to club together in the face of some bizarre supernatural stuff, whilst having to keep their pasts and motivations reasonably close to their chests. Just without all the tedious fucking angst. 
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Ja'moke on October 09, 2017, 12:38:51 PM
Can’t wait for the episode that explains how Eleanor got her tattoos (let’s face it, she’s the kind of person to have a regretable drunken tattoo).
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: mothman on October 12, 2017, 12:16:56 AM
I blasted through the whole first season last weekend, and did the second-season eps so far today. I’ve been loving it but I was initially trepidacious about starting season 2 as I feared they were going to literally replay the whole first season. So I was delighted with how they then subverted it with another 800 resets. So many ways in which they figure it out, best of all being Michael’s disgust when even Jason is able to. It does limit the show’s life, but then that seems to be a successful model for steaming: more, shorter, better shows.

REALLY hoping Tahani’s sister goes to the Bad Place. What a horrible person.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on October 13, 2017, 01:15:22 PM
Another great episode, Ted Danson's various crises gave me a great deal of joy and he better get an Emmy nomination for this episode. I mean he won't win it, I'm sure it'll be someone from Veep or Modern Family again, but he deserves the recognition goddammit!
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: touchingcloth on October 13, 2017, 01:43:56 PM
It does limit the show’s life

I don't think it does. It's a supernatural setting, so anything's possible. Someone's suggested that maybe the whole scenario is Michael's Bad Place, so maybe Eleanor et al are the real demons. What if Shawn isn't really some all powerful evil overlord figure, but has his own boss in the same way that he's Michael's? What if there is no Good or Bad Place, but the whole thing turns out to be some kind of purgatorial waiting room where everyone is being tested to see where they really deserve to spend the rest of eternity?
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: BritishHobo on October 13, 2017, 01:46:55 PM
I'm another one who's rinsed the whole first season and what's been released of the second. Fucking great stuff. I really wasn't sure at first, but the plot and characters have really pulled me in, and it's ended up making me properly laugh out loud several times a week. This episode Jason's scale of 1 to 13 really got me.

Aye, Ted Danson is fantastic. It's been great to see the turn from hapless but well-meaning angel in the first season to evil, arsehole demon now. And still as funny and affable as ever.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: BritishHobo on October 13, 2017, 01:50:39 PM
I don't think it does. It's a supernatural setting, so anything's possible. Someone's suggested that maybe the whole scenario is Michael's Bad Place, so maybe Eleanor et al are the real demons. What if Shawn isn't really some all powerful evil overlord figure, but has his own boss in the same way that he's Michael's? What if there is no Good or Bad Place, but the whole thing turns out to be some kind of purgatorial waiting room where everyone is being tested to see where they really deserve to spend the rest of eternity?

And I suppose even without a twist you could take it in a number of directions. The gang and Michael manage to escape to a town in the good place, and have to do what Eleanor thought she was doing in the first season, pretending they belong.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: mothman on October 13, 2017, 07:51:56 PM
I guess. We’ll see.

Funny thing, as I was watching this I wondered if they were setting up Tahani and Jason to (eventually) be together, whether briefly or permanently (I note that there’s no real sign of Janet and Jason recreating their romance). Whichever way it might turn out to be,  I wasn’t expecting anything to happen this soon though!
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: phantom_power on October 17, 2017, 08:32:41 AM
The one negative I would say is that the reset has ditched all the character history and growth that made me love the show in the first place. They are slowly building that back up again but it was a bit jarring at the start of Season 2
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Alberon on October 17, 2017, 10:44:33 AM
That’s true. I’d have preferred the last realisation that they’re in the bad place to have come later in the cycle when they’re closest to how they ended the first season. But they do seem to be getting back to that point fairly quickly.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: ieXush2i on October 17, 2017, 02:51:36 PM
Only thing that annoys me is that a load of Chidi's classes are now redundant given that life literally has a meaning now. The Camus stuff in the latest ep for example - the universe isn't cold harsh and indifferent when your actions affect your outcome in the afterlife.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on October 20, 2017, 01:28:06 PM
Man, that was a beautiful episode, anyone who says that this show isn't laugh out loud funny is clearly mad. You get things here that I can't imagine ever seeing elsewhere (like the simulation of The Trolley Dilemma for instance) and they have so much fun with all of the various concepts that this is quickly becoming a show I adore, and it might even make my top 10 sitcom list if the rest of the season carries on being this great.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: mothman on October 21, 2017, 12:54:48 PM
They put a lot of effort into it. There was a literal freeze-frame gag with the cinema hoarding - Now Showing: Strangers Under A Trainf and Bend It Like Bentham.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: touchingcloth on October 22, 2017, 11:10:12 AM
Man, that was a beautiful episode, anyone who says that this show isn't laugh out loud funny is clearly mad. You get things here that I can't imagine ever seeing elsewhere (like the simulation of The Trolley Dilemma for instance) and they have so much fun with all of the various concepts that this is quickly becoming a show I adore, and it might even make my top 10 sitcom list if the rest of the season carries on being this great.

Chidi recounting Michael talking about Victor Hugo's fate had me in stitches sacré bleu, je suis just pissed in m'pants.

Fabulous episode though. I'd bet that's the one they submit to the Emmy people this year.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on October 23, 2017, 12:25:15 PM
I’m a bit surprised to see it on CaB; I thought it was pandering guff with laughably one dimensional characters. “I’m a philosophy professor so I’ll react to this situation using first year philosophy references”, “I’m the privileged one so I’ll respond by saying how privileged I am”, “I’m the non native English speaker so I’ll remind everyone I’m not from the US” etc etc.

It got a few chuckles from me but only because every line is an attempted gag (which gets tiresome) but throw a thousand pieces of spaghetti at the wall and a couple will stick. Reminded me of That Girl plus Two and a Half Men, but with a slightly stronger cast and a more interesting premise.

Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Bad Ambassador on October 23, 2017, 12:37:15 PM
“I’m the non native English speaker so I’ll remind everyone I’m not from the US” etc etc.

Who's this? All the main (human) characters are Anglophones.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on October 23, 2017, 12:45:56 PM
Who's this? All the main (human) characters are Anglophones.

Jianyu Li. Apparently he turns out to be from the US but I haven’t watched enough to know if he maintains his accent or if that’s a gag or what.

Sample dialogue

Ted Danson: I just managed to kill 5 out of 10 people in a crowd!
Philosophy one: Oh man that reminds me of the Problem of Evil!
Spoilt one: I haven’t been this sad since someone wore the same expensive dress as me in Hollywood (where I often go)!
Mary-Sue: Jimminy jillickers this place is strange because that doesn’t happen on earth! That’s terrible!
Ted Danson: Yes it’s terrible... because I was trying to kill more of them!

[sardonic music cue]
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Bad Ambassador on October 23, 2017, 01:12:21 PM
Jianyu Li. Apparently he turns out to be from the US but I haven’t watched enough to know if he maintains his accent or if that’s a gag or what.

Sample dialogue

Ted Danson: I just managed to kill 5 out of 10 people in a crowd!
Philosophy one: Oh man that reminds me of the Problem of Evil!
Spoilt one: I haven’t been this sad since someone wore the same expensive dress as me in Hollywood (where I often go)!
Mary-Sue: Jimminy jillickers this place is strange because that doesn’t happen on earth! That’s terrible!
Ted Danson: Yes it’s terrible... because I was trying to kill more of them!

[sardonic music cue]

I'm not sure you're paying much attention. Eleanor is defintely not a Mary Sue and Jianyu is from Florida.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: kidsick5000 on October 23, 2017, 01:36:26 PM
Inspired to create a shit scribble (https://78.media.tumblr.com/a02ffac52d677ea129862c40554f9ec3/tumblr_oya09k6D8Z1ql4i6eo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on October 23, 2017, 03:39:06 PM
Inspired to create a shit scribble (https://78.media.tumblr.com/a02ffac52d677ea129862c40554f9ec3/tumblr_oya09k6D8Z1ql4i6eo1_1280.jpg)

Immortalized... it's all I ever wanted
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: ieXush2i on October 23, 2017, 04:34:45 PM
I'm guessing you jumped in during season 2, and for some reason think Jian-Yu/Jason doesn't have an American accent?
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: phantom_power on October 23, 2017, 04:43:02 PM
Yeah, he is either full-on Florida or silent, depending on whether he is Jason or Jian-Yu.

Chidi is actually African but everyone can understand each other because of special afterlife magic
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: ieXush2i on October 23, 2017, 05:41:36 PM
Ah yeah, and the "jimminy jillickers" thing suggests no idea of the swear filter.

The Good Place is a bit shit for simply dipping into, as the plot and world details are vital to understandingeach new episode.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: amnesiac on October 27, 2017, 02:25:37 PM
I have so many mixed feelings about this show. I think I like it, but each episode is so damn short sometimes it feels like nothing happened.

Cons
===
I HATE the bowlderised swearing FUCKING hate it it's the worth thing. I hate it.
The Frozen voice main lady is terribly miscast, she is the worst thing about it apart from above. I just can not buy into her being that hellraiser/ alchy shitface she is awful and I hate her face.

Pros
===
Ted Danson is good.
Cheedie actor is the best.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: kidsick5000 on October 27, 2017, 03:16:27 PM
Cons
===
I HATE the bowlderised swearing FUCKING hate it it's the worth thing. I hate it.


Sooo, you could see why not being able to swear properly would be frustrating to someone used to swearing?
How in a place designed to make them miserable, it would be an extra irritation?
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: amnesiac on October 27, 2017, 03:22:21 PM
Sooo, you could see why not being able to swear properly would be frustrating to someone used to swearing?
How in a place designed to make them miserable, it would be an extra irritation?

yes!

Have you just made a point or something, I can't work out what you're up to.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: touchingcloth on October 27, 2017, 04:25:08 PM
Jianyu Li. Apparently he turns out to be from the US but I haven’t watched enough to know if he maintains his accent or if that’s a gag or what.

Yeah, he is either full-on Florida or silent, depending on whether he is Jason or Jian-Yu.

The actor was raised in Canada according to wiki and, believe it or not, that's a damn good take on a typical Floridian accent. Maybe your issue with it is that the typical accent in US TV and film for Jason's archetype is Californian, so it might be that his spaced out Florida stoner drawl is close enough to California fratboy to be recognisable, but far enough away that it comes off like a pastiche.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on October 27, 2017, 04:50:11 PM
The actor was raised in Canada according to wiki and, believe it or not, that's a damn good take on a typical Floridian accent. Maybe your issue with it is that the typical accent in US TV and film for Jason's archetype is Californian, so it might be that his spaced out Florida stoner drawl is close enough to California fratboy to be recognisable, but far enough away that it comes off like a pastiche.

I appreciate the stretch to meet me half way but it's deffo a case of me not paying enough attention to know characters names so I'm probably thinking of someone else (or possibly another tv show altogether). I'm (British &) Canadian working for an American company so I can spot a dodgy accent a mile away - I'm probably misremembering things because I'm an idiot.

I think I'm destined not to get this show, alas :( shame because I liked parks and rec & Kimmy Schmidt and I thought this had a similar vibe. Maybe I'll give it another go
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: touchingcloth on October 27, 2017, 04:59:12 PM
I appreciate the stretch to meet me half way but it's deffo a case of me not paying enough attention to know characters names so I'm probably thinking of someone else (or possibly another tv show altogether). I'm (British &) Canadian working for an American company so I can spot a dodgy accent a mile away - I'm probably misremembering things because I'm an idiot.

I think I'm destined not to get this show, alas :( shame because I liked parks and rec & Kimmy Schmidt and I thought this had a similar vibe. Maybe I'll give it another go

Things didn't click for me until a few episodes in, and the consensus of this thread and others I've spoken to seems to be that it doesn't become compelling viewing until midway through the first series. It's definitely worth another go I reckon, but hey, if you don't like it you don't like it. It is what it is. Nowt so queer as folk. Hearts and minds. Humpday.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: BritishHobo on October 27, 2017, 08:12:28 PM
Surprisingly sweet episode, that. And a massive grin on my face due to a certain comedian turning up.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Ja'moke on October 28, 2017, 01:28:24 PM
I have so many mixed feelings about this show. I think I like it, but each episode is so damn short sometimes it feels like nothing happened.

Cons
===
I HATE the bowlderised swearing FUCKING hate it it's the worth thing. I hate it.
The Frozen voice main lady is terribly miscast, she is the worst thing about it apart from above. I just can not buy into her being that hellraiser/ alchy shitface she is awful and I hate her face.

Pros
===
Ted Danson is good.
Cheedie actor is the best.

What kind of psychopath hates Kristen Bell and her face.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: kidsick5000 on October 28, 2017, 03:10:42 PM
Surprisingly sweet episode, that. And a massive grin on my face due to a certain comedian turning up.

The NBC MVP. He is genuinely one of my favourite comedy actors. I even put up with The House because of him (even though i was on a flight)
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on November 03, 2017, 09:40:46 PM
Charming stuff once again, but I read afterwards that that's it for this year, as NBC will be showing the fucking football on Thursday nights instead of their comedy block, and so we'll have to wait until January for the next chapter.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Alberon on November 03, 2017, 10:00:34 PM
Arsebiscuits!

Still, I suppose it explains that cliffhanger.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Ant Farm Keyboard on November 04, 2017, 10:20:01 PM
Charming stuff once again, but I read afterwards that that's it for this year, as NBC will be showing the fucking football on Thursday nights instead of their comedy block, and so we'll have to wait until January for the next chapter.

They did the same for season 1, and I guess that's how they are able to keep it on the air. They just have 13 half-hours, they don't have to put some filler material, they change the plot if their order had been reduced or augmented. And it leaves time for the leads to do other projects while they may have not committed otherwise.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Moribunderast on November 05, 2017, 08:39:48 AM
Have really gone off this one through the second series, so far. It's just not funny. I like the people involved creatively and I like Danson and Bell but the episodes barely raise a chuckle from me. Even when there's good lines they usually don't land upon delivery. The lead ensemble is okay but the characters themselves feel like non-starters. Usually by now a sitcom is finding it's characters/actors' strengths and honing in on them but I still feel like characters like Chidi and the posh brit one are failing to deliver any comedy while the Jersey Monk gets some good lines but his delivery does nothing for me.

I do generally like the plotting and episodes are fluffy and short enough to keep watching for the story but as a comedy it's a real disappointment, I think. Of that NBC comedy block (bearing in mind I don't watch Will & Grace) it's the last show I bother with, after getting genuine laughs from Great News and Superstore.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Scrapey Fish on November 16, 2017, 08:38:50 PM
I agree with the comment above unfortunately. I thought the first season was phenomenal in successfully mixing hilarious comedy with cliffhanger plotting. In the second season, aside from a few moments it seems to have completely lost its humour and I don't care about the characters now that they've been reset.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: kngen on November 18, 2017, 08:36:34 AM
Chidi recounting Michael talking about Victor Hugo's fate had me in stitches sacré bleu, je suis just pissed in m'pants.


Yes! That had me laughing days afterwards every time I thought of it.  Also, the callback to Chidi's friend's horrible boots. Fuck, I love this show.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Ja'moke on November 18, 2017, 01:21:58 PM
I’m actually finding S2 funnier than S1 so far. I never laughed out loud during the first series, but have done a few times during these recent episodes.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: remedial_gash on November 18, 2017, 03:46:15 PM
I’m actually finding S2 funnier than S1 so far. I never laughed out loud during the first series, but have done a few times during these recent episodes.

Tend to agree, s1 was compelling rather than funny, at least s2 is amusing in parts and the reset and switcheroo gave it legs.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on November 21, 2017, 08:10:45 PM
It's just been renewed for a third season, which is very pleasing news: https://www.avclub.com/shrimp-for-everyone-the-good-place-is-forking-renewed-1820650663
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: selectivememory on November 29, 2017, 09:50:47 PM
Ah, this show is amazing. I started it last week, loved the pilot, but then wasn't really blown away by the next four or five episodes. But the first season gets better and better as it goes on, and the twist is just great (especially if you don't see it coming).

Season 2 has just been sustained brilliance so far - loved all the false starts in the first three chapters especially. It's brimming with great ideas and it's very difficult to predict what will happen. Admittedly Tahani and Jason can be a bit annoying at times, but Eleanor, Chidi and Janet are all fantastic. Definitely think the second season has been much funnier than the first.

Also, Ted Danson.


Bit frustrated that we have to wait until January until the rest of the season. But great news that there'll be a third.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Brundle-Fly on November 29, 2017, 11:57:34 PM
I really loved this. Some great ideas, one-liners, occasionally quite affecting and just so lovely to look at. Don't have a problem with any of the cast although I do find Jason's diction a little difficult to understand at times. The 'needles' reveal, the new boyfriend's way of screeching Bye, some funny fart jokes and Michael coming back as a tasty sweet had me roaring.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on January 05, 2018, 03:57:05 PM
Just in case people weren't aware this returned for the second part of the season last night. It's filled with loveliness once again, and I've now decided if Ted Danson doesn't win an Emmy for his performance this year I'm going to slaughter every single member of the academy.  And that includes a lot of people I like a great deal. His roast of the gang was the highlight, but seeing his plan unfold in general was funny, funny stuff, and I can't wait to see where the series goes next.

Also: The AV Club published an interview with Jameela Jamil yesterday which is a fun read - https://www.avclub.com/jameela-jamil-suggests-you-take-all-your-good-place-spo-1821504551 - and also includes a link to her presenting showreel, which contains a very very creepy Pierce Brosnan drooling all over her - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhUdXrmeYNU
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: selectivememory on January 05, 2018, 04:30:48 PM
Thanks for the heads up. I'd forgotten about this. Going to get on it right away.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: brat-sampson on January 05, 2018, 05:19:45 PM
I don't always gel with Jason's brand of stupid, but his 'I think we gotta go to the cops.' 'What cops? Where do you think we are?!' really got me.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Alberon on January 05, 2018, 07:31:04 PM
Oh, I loved that line and the episode. Great to see this show back.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: kidsick5000 on January 06, 2018, 02:31:33 AM
A little Mantzoukas goes a long way.
'Maximum Derek'
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Moribunderast on January 06, 2018, 11:39:25 AM
I'd kinda gone off this show (as an earlier post explained) to the point where I had to talk myself into watching this episode but I'm very glad I did - really funny, clever stuff. I could have done maybe without the over-explaining of the clues at the end but there were some lovely jokes and performances this week. As SMBH said, Danson was remarkable but Janet had me giggling throughout. Her drunk acting is very good.

Jason Mantzoukas should be in every comedy show. Thankfully, he's in most of them. He makes every line he's given absolutely hilarious, even if it's just repeating a name.

Good stuff, I'm back on board with this show.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: kidsick5000 on January 06, 2018, 12:56:00 PM
really funny, clever stuff.

It was the kind of clever you'd usually expect in some smart heist film. (which reading it back is one of the dumbest-sounding things I have ever written)
I hope there were other non-highlighted clues on screen.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: phantom_power on January 06, 2018, 01:36:32 PM
There were 15,000
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: BritishHobo on January 06, 2018, 03:10:19 PM
I love how plot-heavy the show is willing to be. It could easily fill a season with the plot from one episode, but it's absolutely ploughing through the story at an amazing place, and I'm glad for that. It makes it exciting.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Ja'moke on January 06, 2018, 11:03:05 PM
Janet is such a great comedy creation and D'Arcy Carden nails the performance every time.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Bobloblawslawbomb on January 06, 2018, 11:06:36 PM
I love how plot-heavy the show is willing to be. It could easily fill a season with the plot from one episode, but it's absolutely ploughing through the story at an amazing place, and I'm glad for that. It makes it exciting.

Agreed, similar to Silicon Valley in that regard.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: selectivememory on January 06, 2018, 11:46:59 PM
I liked that episode, but found some of it a little sub-par compared to some of the plot-heavy episodes from earlier in this season. It just felt a little phoned-in at the end with the explanation of all of Michael's hints (from a writing perspective; performances were all great, obviously). I dunno. I guess I was expecting something a little bigger/better.

But yeah, I am loving how this second season in particular just seems to give the whole set-up a good shake every other episode, and we have to deal with a whole new reality. And yes, Jason's obliviousness through all of it is very funny. The "cops" line was a cracker.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Namtab on January 09, 2018, 06:44:15 PM
I'm in the weird situation where I find the majority of this mildly amusing at best but am utterly gripped by the mythology and forward momentum on the plot.

And yes, Ted Danson is obviously fantastic too.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 09, 2018, 10:14:32 PM
I'm in the weird situation where I find the majority of this mildly amusing at best but am utterly gripped by the mythology and forward momentum on the plot.

And yes, Ted Danson is obviously fantastic too.

Not weird, I feel much the same. I absolutely love this show for many reasons above the actual comedy element.

Bad Janet farting always makes me guffaw though. Pathetic, really.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Mobbd on January 12, 2018, 01:13:54 PM
I started watching against my better judgement (I didn't like the look of it, despite having a fondness for latter-day Danson a la Bored to Death and Curb) but soon found myself sucked in and gobbling each episode down. Blasted through Season 1.

Season 2, however, is trash and I'm surprised so many of the connoisseurs at Cook'd and Bomb'd are into it. Ted Danson's crises are fucking hack. And fuck all of the new, thinly-written assholes like Real Elanor and the bitey guy who are now crowding the screen.

What started out as surprisingly restrained given the high concept is now manic, unwatchable pap.

I'd have been perfectly happy if they'd actually gone through with the reset and told the whole story again with some sort of key difference to set us off on a different trajectory.

Hello! by the way. First time poster. I am wanking as I write this, etc.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on January 12, 2018, 02:26:37 PM
I started watching against my better judgement (I didn't like the look of it, despite having a fondness for latter-day Danson a la Bored to Death and Curb) but soon found myself sucked in and gobbling each episode down. Blasted through Season 1.

Season 2, however, is trash and I'm surprised so many of the connoisseurs at Cook'd and Bomb'd are into it. Ted Danson's crises are fucking hack. And fuck all of the new, thinly-written assholes like Real Elanor and the bitey guy who are now crowding the screen.

What started out as surprisingly restrained given the high concept is now manic, unwatchable pap.

I'd have been perfectly happy if they'd actually gone through with the reset and told the whole story again with some sort of key difference to set us off on a different trajectory

Hello! by the way. First time poster. I am wanking as I write this, etc.

Ah, I think we'll just never agree on this as the things you hate I find really funny. Given everything which happened in last night's episode though you may get your wish concerning a very different trajectory, it's certainly made me even more excited about the series than I already was.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: selectivememory on January 12, 2018, 04:48:55 PM
Loved that episode. I was briefly concerned that they might have written themselves into a corner with the developments in the previous episode, but now I cannot wait to see where it's going to go next. Does make me wonder how they're going to pull off another season of this though, given the amount of ideas they're burning through at the moment.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Enrico Palazzo on January 12, 2018, 04:53:09 PM
Really enjoyed the first series. Gave up on the second after a few episodes. Seemed like they didn't have a clue where to go with it at that point.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: olliebean on January 12, 2018, 08:03:34 PM
Loved that episode. I was briefly concerned that they might have written themselves into a corner with the developments in the previous episode, but now I cannot wait to see where it's going to go next. Does make me wonder how they're going to pull off another season of this though, given the amount of ideas they're burning through at the moment.

I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that they had a five season plan for it (it might even have been seven), so I presume they've got enough ideas in the bag to carry it through.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on January 12, 2018, 08:34:55 PM
According to Cinema Blend, Kristen Bell said: https://www.cinemablend.com/television/1635110/how-many-seasons-the-good-place-showrunner-has-planned-according-to-kristen-bell

Quote
I have heard the pitch for season two and season three. Because much like the finale... before I signed on to the project he sat me down and said, 'Here's what I want to do with the whole season.' And because he's a great creator and he said, 'I feel irresponsible giving an actor this job and pulling the rug out from under them in the finale and changing the whole show, so I want you to know what's going to happen. And then you can decide if you want the part.' So we had the whole thing planned out, and because it's such a weird show, because there are these unearthly, heavenly elements, and different places you can go, he wants to do the whole thing. So he actually pitched me the second season, the third season, and whatever the seventh season would be. His brain is bigger than I could ever imagine.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: zomgmouse on January 13, 2018, 10:02:01 PM
A friend got me to watch the first episode of this and I had a few laughs but it just felt very... American. I get that it's an artificial world but it still feels incredibly sheeny and that put me off. Is it worth sticking with? I'm not sure I'd bother.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on January 13, 2018, 10:16:27 PM
A friend got me to watch the first episode of this and I had a few laughs but it just felt very... American. I get that it's an artificial world but it still feels incredibly sheeny and that put me off. Is it worth sticking with? I'm not sure I'd bother.

Yes, and it just gets better and better as the series goes on imho.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: CaledonianGonzo on January 14, 2018, 07:36:01 AM
I don't find it especially funny, but in terms if plot, twists and cliff hangers it's well worth sticking with.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: remedial_gash on January 18, 2018, 04:07:45 AM
Um yeah still keeping up and enjoying the potential - just a heads up that Jameela was on the JV podcast with Janet Varney around Christmas and is a delight.

https://nerdist.com/the-jv-club-265-jameela-jamil/

Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: kidsick5000 on January 18, 2018, 07:15:02 AM
Um yeah still keeping up and enjoying the potential - just a heads up that Jameela was on the JV podcast with Janet Varney around Christmas and is a delight.

https://nerdist.com/the-jv-club-265-jameela-jamil/

She's very entertaining on Instagram. Much more open than the average celeb
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: phantom_power on January 19, 2018, 11:00:22 PM
Another great episode. They are really burning through the plot now. Most shows would have had half a season navigating the bad place
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Ja'moke on January 20, 2018, 02:44:02 AM
This week’s episode was ace. Maybe the funniest they’ve done, tons of background gags too. And once again they’ve shaken up the plot.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: kidsick5000 on January 20, 2018, 05:06:11 AM
Another great episode. They are really burning through the plot now. Most shows would have had half a season navigating the bad place

It's amazing isn't it. In another show, they'd have only just rediscovered the truth of the place.
I don't know if it's that mid-life thing that you well up more easily but Ted Danson gave me the ol' hot eyes in that episode
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Dr Rock on January 26, 2018, 07:25:26 AM
Love this. Gorged on most of both seasons in two days. Can't believe I didn't guess the twist at the end of season one, it was pretty guessable in retrospect, but I suppose watching them so quickly it didn't occur to me. Like a couple of others here, thought I'd guessed that the twist in season two would be that this was the Bad Place for Danson's character, but that was mentioned in the second or third episode as one of the ways the team had tried to defeat him, by convincing him this was the case, so seems unlikely that will be a twist now.

I'm on episode 8, Season 2 so had been avoiding this thread in case of spoilers, but haven't read anything that has given away what happens in the rest of the season, I don't think.

The show is like an episode of Black Mirror which is better and funnier. Recommending it to all and sundry.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Moribunderast on January 26, 2018, 11:48:02 AM
Another cracking episode. Considering I had gone quite cold on the show during the second season I'm really impressed with how it's turned around in the last few episodes. Jokes have been landing for me with more regularity and the main characters are actually feeling funny and well-performed, like the writers and actors are finally honing in on what works. Chidi and Jason hadn't provided me with any laughs up until recently but both have been in good form lately. Janet remains the funniest - D'arcy Carden is a revelation in this show.

Plot-wise, I can only echo everybody's marveling at the sheer pace they're getting through things. So much has happened in just the last few weeks and I'm sure they've got another great twist or cliffhanger awaiting in the finale next week. I'll be sad to see it go just as I'm starting to really get on with it.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: selectivememory on January 26, 2018, 01:15:23 PM
Another brilliant episode. I just think this second season has been great from start to finish.

I was encouraged when I read in this thread that they have a seven season plan, as they're using up ideas in the space of an episode that would sustain other shows for ages.

I've never found it uproariously funny, although it has some very funny moments. But this episode had some great jokes. One of my favourite recurring ones is Jason's complete lack in comprehension of what is going on.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on February 02, 2018, 06:05:25 PM
I enjoyed that a lot, unless it turns out to be a trick and another simulation. And even then I'd have faith in Schur and co to pull it off.

My theories for season 3:
1 - 4 - Set back on Earth with Michael providing a director's commentary / the odd prod.
5 - 6 - Back with the Judge where it's decided the system is broken and millions should have gone to heaven.
7 - 11 - Our beloved gang's finally in The Good Place, though it's not what they expected given the overcrowding / mentally damaged souls who were unfairly tortured in hell for so long.
12 - God (Laura Dern) quits, leaving Eleanor in charge.

See you back in a year where I'm clearly clearly going to be absolutely right about all of the above!
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: kidsick5000 on February 02, 2018, 06:18:34 PM
I'd put money on your No 12 coming true
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Dr Rock on February 02, 2018, 09:26:59 PM
They've been in The Good Place the whole time, there is no Bad Place. The Good Place is where everyone gets to develop into a better person, despite what hand they were dealt in life.

Just a theory, probably full of flaws like how come we see Danson's character interact with people outside of the main group of humans? I'll call it anyway, because the Bad Place seems too unfair, as does there not being loads of intermediate levels for people who were pretty good, but not saints.

Of the members here, who would get in the Good Place? I reckon Kelvin.

Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on February 02, 2018, 09:32:41 PM
Of the members here, who would get in the Good Place? I reckon Kelvin.

Given how the system works and only the very best people get in to heaven, I don't think any of us would even come close.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: phantom_power on February 02, 2018, 10:39:53 PM
What happened to Chidi speaking French and it being translated in the Bad Place? Huh? HUH?!
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: spamwangler on February 02, 2018, 10:48:03 PM
its fucking good this, i really like it
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Penfold on February 02, 2018, 10:55:02 PM
What happened to Chidi speaking French and it being translated in the Bad Place? Huh? HUH?!

I wondered that during the first season when Chidi was talking to his Australian colleague. It makes sense he can speak English if he works in Australia but he has an oddly American accent.

Also, where was Michael's neighbourhood? It wasn't in The Bad Place as they had to get a train there, and it wasn't in the Medium or Good Place either. I'm overthinking it.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on February 02, 2018, 10:56:29 PM
I assume they're not really back in the real world.

As endings go, it's a good place (ha) to leave things for the time being. It is a bit annoying that they've once again ended a series by essentially wiping the character development though.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: BritishHobo on February 03, 2018, 07:04:39 AM
At least it's built on that this is only temporary, and their memories will be back when they're returned to the afterlife.

I actually cried when Ted Danson turned around at the bar and threw a towel over his shoulder like he was back in Cheers. I'm a lunatic.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Alberon on February 03, 2018, 07:37:33 AM
Their memories have been wiped, but not necessarily their character growth. Eleanor's stab at being good shows that, I think.

Any normal series would spend a whole season exploring this new scenario, so I expect The Good Place to have burned this to the ground inside of three episodes and moved on to something else. I mean you can't keep Michael and Janet in a room staring at ticker tape for too long, surely.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: kidsick5000 on February 03, 2018, 08:15:04 AM
Their memories have been wiped, but not necessarily their character growth. Eleanor's stab at being good shows that, I think.

Any normal series would spend a whole season exploring this new scenario, so I expect The Good Place to have burned this to the ground inside of three episodes and moved on to something else. I mean you can't keep Michael and Janet in a room staring at ticker tape for too long, surely.

There's the alternate universe (bad place) version of season two where they've only just rediscovered each other and Vicky s threatening to tell Shawn.

I'm really looking forward to season 3. Things this well crafted are so rare.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 03, 2018, 04:07:01 PM
At least it's built on that this is only temporary, and their memories will be back when they're returned to the afterlife.

I actually cried when Ted Danson turned around at the bar and threw a towel over his shoulder like he was back in Cheers. I'm a lunatic.

I was filling up a few times in that episode like a soppy schoolgirl, especially at 'the kiss'.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on February 03, 2018, 04:28:19 PM
What happened to Chidi speaking French and it being translated in the Bad Place? Huh? HUH?!

I've seen a ridiculous amount of speculation online about what that might mean, but I've a feeling it's probably just a minor fuck up.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 03, 2018, 05:06:58 PM
I think the show should finally end with Sam Malone from Cheers waking up, turning to his wife (played by Jessica Lange made to look like an older Eleanor Shellstrop) and saying, "I've just had the weirdest dream.". 

Lange's eyes glow red and she cackles in pure American Horror Story style and says, "It's not a dream. You're in the bad place Sam, where everybody knows your name."

She holds up a burning trident.

Sam looks into camera, "Fork!"

FREMULON LOGO.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Namtab on February 03, 2018, 05:51:10 PM
At least it's built on that this is only temporary, and their memories will be back when they're returned to the afterlife.

I actually cried when Ted Danson turned around at the bar and threw a towel over his shoulder like he was back in Cheers. I'm a lunatic.

How the fuck did I not pick up on that.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: CaledonianGonzo on February 03, 2018, 05:54:06 PM
I love this show but it doesn't often make me laugh - that was the first belly laugh it's given me.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Gulftastic on February 03, 2018, 06:36:09 PM

I actually cried when Ted Danson turned around at the bar and threw a towel over his shoulder like he was back in Cheers. I'm a lunatic.

Me too. Sam Malone as a Guardian Angel Devil. I was such a Cheers fan in the 80's.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Dr Rock on February 03, 2018, 06:39:15 PM
I'm a huge Cheers fan too and that bit made me v happy.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: phantom_power on February 04, 2018, 05:31:18 PM
I've seen a ridiculous amount of speculation online about what that might mean, but I've a feeling it's probably just a minor fuck up.

I don't think it was a fuck-up so much as to retcon what was really just a throwaway joke out of the canon as it wouldn't suit the narrative
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: McQ on February 04, 2018, 06:59:36 PM
I don't think it was a fuck-up so much as to retcon what was really just a throwaway joke out of the canon as it wouldn't suit the narrative

I guess all this talk about how they've got seven seasons mapped out and have consulted with other showrunners about how to avoid the pitfalls of this kind of thing have driven the speculation. If they have it all planned out, they knew they were heading here, so why put in the line about him speaking French? Still might just be a fuck-up, though!
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: phantom_power on February 04, 2018, 07:15:58 PM
I guess all this talk about how they've got seven seasons mapped out and have consulted with other showrunners about how to avoid the pitfalls of this kind of thing have driven the speculation. If they have it all planned out, they knew they were heading here, so why put in the line about him speaking French? Still might just be a fuck-up, though!

My guess would be that the seven season plan happened somewhere after that line. Did that happen in the pilot?
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Bad Ambassador on February 05, 2018, 01:29:27 AM
French is his native first language, but he's also fluent in English.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: kidsick5000 on February 05, 2018, 06:25:48 AM
I guess all this talk about how they've got seven seasons mapped out and have consulted with other showrunners about how to avoid the pitfalls of this kind of thing have driven the speculation. If they have it all planned out, they knew they were heading here, so why put in the line about him speaking French? Still might just be a fuck-up, though!

In the second series, Chidi still gives Elenor a bunch of philosophy books in French.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: phantom_power on February 05, 2018, 07:57:09 AM
French is his native first language, but he's also fluent in English.

With no accent? Huh? HUH? I find that very hard to believe. HUH!??!?
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: jfjnpxmy on February 05, 2018, 11:14:38 PM
In the second series, Chidi still gives Elenor a bunch of philosophy books in French.

In the [s01e10] flashbacks to when Chidi can't pick teams at school, the signs in the background are also in French.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: phantom_power on February 06, 2018, 12:00:16 AM
Well that's it. Fuck this show in its nationality-hopping ear
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: CaledonianGonzo on February 06, 2018, 04:10:45 AM
If he's been in Sydney for a long time how come his English doesn't have a wee bit of an accent? He never once refers to the toilet as a dunny or to playing knifey-spoony.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: phantom_power on February 06, 2018, 09:16:36 AM
It's fucked. It's all just....fucked
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: CaledonianGonzo on February 06, 2018, 05:27:04 PM
Little bit of fun:

https://twitter.com/ShinraAlpha/status/960881442871005184
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Blinder Data on February 06, 2018, 05:35:01 PM
I started to like this but its chirpy tone is hacking me off. I can't help but get the impression the writers are making it up as they go along. Ted Danson is fantastic but it feels like it's going in circles since we found out he was evil and now isn't.

I can't keep up with the latest schemes to save them which are threadbare and nonsensical anyway, seeing as the logic of the Good/Bad Place is all over the place. And every line Tahani delivers is a dud.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Nice Relaxing Poo on March 23, 2018, 07:33:08 PM
Halfway through the second season and I'm still enjoying it.

I've developed a crush on D'arcy Carden, she's absolutely ace as Janet.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Utter Shit on March 23, 2018, 09:44:14 PM
I loved the first series but gave up on the second as it seemed to be rehashing the same stories...worth sticking with?
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: brat-sampson on March 23, 2018, 09:48:56 PM
I loved the first series but gave up on the second as it seemed to be rehashing the same stories...worth sticking with?

...what? I'm guessing you didn't get that far? I thought the first episode alone dealt with more than many would have expected from a whole season, and from there it somehow kept accelerating. Ok, maybe there was a run early on where things stayed a bit samey, but yeah, I'd definitely suggest continuing.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Dr Rock on March 23, 2018, 10:00:36 PM
When is series three?
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: kidsick5000 on March 24, 2018, 07:19:38 AM
When is series three?

They've just started shooting
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: samadriel on September 14, 2018, 06:38:19 AM
Just got into this recently, wonderful show.  NBC have posted a little bit of the first episode of the new season:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkfeyCLm3qY
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: chveik on September 18, 2018, 06:24:14 PM
"Have you ever paid money to hear music performed by California funk rock band The Red Hot Chili Peppers?"
Love this show so far.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: brat-sampson on September 28, 2018, 05:50:04 PM
When is series three?

Right now!! The first one's on Netflix and more will go up each week as it airs on NBC in the states.

As is traditional, they launched with a double episode. It's managed to hit the ground running again, made me smile, made me laugh and made me wonder where they're going to take it next. It's the best plotted comedy on TV.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: BritishHobo on September 28, 2018, 06:21:39 PM
Fuck I love this show. Such a joy. Like brat, laughing, smiling, utterly gripped. And Ted Danson as lovely as ever.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on September 28, 2018, 06:25:09 PM
Get the he'll in!
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: remedial_gash on September 28, 2018, 06:46:05 PM
Hmm, thought the opener was okay, but it's just the place-setting for things to come. I was initially lukewarm to this, but upon a re-watchwithin the last last month came to appreciate it alot more that a tightly plotted high-concept dramedy. 

During the re-watched noticed niced puns and 'actual jokes' that just weren't  signalled in the traditional way and I had completely missed in my first viewing.

I'm sure it was fine (and doubtless better on a re-watch) but I found myself frustrated by the re-hashes all the time; some multiple in this episode and  some harking back to the last episode of s2 - it seemed about 18 minutes of material in a 44 minute show.

I think I'm just itching for the new stuff.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: kittens on September 28, 2018, 08:00:23 PM
dunno why i watch this show. it's lame and bad and not funny. but it's ok. i guess it's fun to see what they do. it's inventive isn't it. lame and bad and not funny but inventive. there
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Nice Relaxing Poo on September 30, 2018, 12:49:59 AM
Just started on the new series and yes it's still funny and quite marvelous. Jason is my favourite character because it's not easy to make dumbness so funny in a clever way but they managed it.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: samadriel on September 30, 2018, 09:11:29 AM
Do I not want Chidi to get with Simone because I want him to be with Eleanor, or is it because I really don't want to regularly hear Simone's "Australian accent"? I really wish they'd just let her use her own accent. Oh well.

Edit: Actually, maybe she'll turn out to be a demon or something - her accent is no better than Ted Danson's, and they made fun of that, so they can't possibly think her accent will be acceptable for a season or more... Yeah, I think she's suspect now.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Penfold on September 30, 2018, 09:34:11 AM
I'm happy they tried to explain Chidi's accent, it was bothering me how he would still sound American in the real world despite him only sounding like that to Eleanor in The Good Place.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Jumblegraws on September 30, 2018, 09:45:03 AM
Do I not want Chidi to get with Simone because I want him to be with Eleanor, or is it because I really don't want to regularly hear Simone's "Australian accent"? I really wish they'd just let her use her own accent. Oh well.

Edit: Actually, maybe she'll turn out to be a demon or something - her accent is no better than Ted Danson's, and they made fun of that, so they can't possibly think her accent will be acceptable for a season or more... Yeah, I think she's suspect now.
This opener brought home that I have a really bad ear for accents, because Simone’s sounded fine to me and, not having any prior knowledge of Kirby Howell-Baptiste, the character could have been played by an actual aussie for all I knew. Having said that, Michael’s accent was blatantly shit and I casually wondered if Janet sarcastically complimenting it was a way of hanging a lampshade on it after Danson couldn’t nail it irl.

There’s a lot of speculation that Simone is actually Gen or Vicky, with the crappy accent being exhibit A. If the latter, it would be a nice callback to Vicky claiming to have mastered the Australian accent in a previous episode.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: samadriel on September 30, 2018, 11:33:26 AM
This opener brought home that I have a really bad ear for accents, because Simone’s sounded fine to me and, not having any prior knowledge of Kirby Howell-Baptiste, the character could have been played by an actual aussie for all I knew.
I must admit that I might just find the accent dubious because, due to the old White Australia Policy, a lady of her particular age and ancestry probably wouldn't have a voice like that. But she's laying it on a bit thick too.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Jumblegraws on September 30, 2018, 12:02:17 PM
I must admit that I might just find the accent dubious because, due to the old White Australia Policy, a lady of her particular age and ancestry probably wouldn't have a voice like that. But she's laying it on a bit thick too.
That was something I saw raised a few times in the speculation that Simone is Vicky in disguise; there was no particularly good reason to have Howell-Baptiste use a dodgy accent in lieu of her natural accent unless it was a payoff to Vicky’s earlier line, with a couple of people opining that the accent was all the more jarring because Australians with Afro-Caribbean heritage are such a small demographic. 
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on September 30, 2018, 12:09:16 PM
dunno why i watch this show. it's lame and bad and not funny. but it's ok. i guess it's fun to see what they do. it's inventive isn't it. lame and bad and not funny but inventive. there

Can we ban kittens from the thread please (if not the entire forum) as his brain has clearly gone wrong. Oh so very wrong.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Jon on October 02, 2018, 10:05:45 AM
Has anyone been following the official podcast (https://art19.com/shows/the-good-place-the-podcast) for this show?  I'm halfway through and it's well worth a listen. Marc Evan Jackson (a.k.a. Shawn) hosts it, and he's an excellent interviewer. Some of the episodes do descend into the usual Hollywood love-in, and Jameela Jamil unfortunately guests alongside a set designer who, try as she might (which isn't too hard), cannot make the process of drafting set blueprints sound exciting. But it's much better when they talk to the show's creator, or they have a writer in alongside the actor and get more into the philosophical side of the show and the crazy room-writing process. Jamil and Kirsten Bell come off particularly well, I thought, getting beyond standard "amazing writing" platitudes to talk intelligently about the premise and the characters.

I thought the first episode of season 3 was decent. The weirdness of the show's universe means that even episodes like this, which are mostly moving things into place, are still entertaining. I do wonder if/how they're going to explain why the characters aren't swearing all the time. I rewatched season 1 and 2 in preparation for the new one, and found it funnier than I remembered. There are a lot of great asides and character moments that you can miss when you're concentrating on the twistiness of the plot. My criticism would be that they rely too much on the joke that the supernatural characters are incongruously banal and obsessed with pop-culture. I think they could do more with the idea that these beings are non-humans with surreal existences and different value systems.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: mothman on October 02, 2018, 10:28:29 PM
From now on, I’m never not pronouncing Aristotle as Aristotlay.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: remedial_gash on October 06, 2018, 03:14:28 AM
thanks for the heads up about the podcast thought episode 2 was superb with adam scott aukerm adding to the fun. Love Ted and everyone.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: olliebean on October 06, 2018, 11:47:49 AM
Dick Tracy called, he said that was a great second episode.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: surreal on October 06, 2018, 12:05:41 PM
I think Chidi had misspelled Plato on the whiteboard at the end - it says Palto...
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: kidsick5000 on October 06, 2018, 12:21:26 PM
I think Chidi had misspelled Plato on the whiteboard at the end - it says Palto...

Unless avocadoes are relevant.

Anyone else find this episode blast past them? Great stuff though, the script had a lot of empathy for Jason this week (having the worst death, him feeling at home sleeping in a dumpster)
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Ant Farm Keyboard on October 06, 2018, 06:25:06 PM
I think Chidi had misspelled Plato on the whiteboard at the end - it says Palto...

He had slept eight minutes during the whole night.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Gulftastic on October 06, 2018, 10:49:00 PM
He had slept eight minutes during the whole night.

And not consecutively.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: surreal on October 07, 2018, 09:41:06 AM
He had slept eight minutes during the whole night.

This is a good point - clearly the writers were thinking about this a bit more than I was...
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: mothman on October 10, 2018, 04:12:06 PM
That heavens Adam Scott's return was brief. I didn't find him especially convincing as this arch-demon in season 2, so wasn't really relishing the idea of him potentially being a regular character. Would have been better it - indeed I was almost expecting it was going to be - Shawn had been the one to go undercover in the research group. There's something about his comedic deadpan menace that appeals to me. But then I also think I've developed a bit of a crush on Maya Rudolph, so...
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: selectivememory on October 19, 2018, 09:49:37 PM
I'm struggling with this season, which is a shame as I loved the first two. I know there was talk about them having a multi-season arc already planned out, but this seems so aimless at the moment, and it does feel to me like they've run out of ideas. I really hope they're going to pull the rug in an interesting way soon, but I'm a bit sceptical at this point.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: saltysnacks on October 19, 2018, 09:58:16 PM
From now on, I’m never not pronouncing Aristotle as Aristotlay.

The Lacano-Hegelian funny sex man* Zizek pronounces it like that too.

*He's much better in print.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on October 20, 2018, 12:10:00 AM
I'm struggling with this season, which is a shame as I loved the first two. I know there was talk about them having a multi-season arc already planned out, but this seems so aimless at the moment, and it does feel to me like they've run out of ideas. I really hope they're going to pull the rug in an interesting way soon, but I'm a bit sceptical at this point.

I'm the opposite, well, almost as I loved the first two as well but I'm still greatly enjoying this one, and thought last night's was one of the best ever. From Ted Danson's Special Agent Rick Justice (and Eleanor seeing through him from the get go) to Chidi's breakdown it was filled with laugh out loud moments, and I'm really looking forward to seeing where they go with it next.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: CaledonianGonzo on October 20, 2018, 10:10:41 AM
Properly lost it at Jeremy Bearimy
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: samadriel on October 20, 2018, 11:36:21 AM
I particularly loved Chidi's breakdown; I thought this was a big bounce back after last week's nondescript episode.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: olliebean on October 20, 2018, 06:02:59 PM
Properly lost it at Jeremy Bearimy

Watched Superstore straight after this and fell apart when Carol called Jerry "Jer' Bear"
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Moribunderast on October 21, 2018, 01:19:58 AM
Yeah, I'm finding myself in the same boat currently that I was in for the first half of season 2. I find the show pleasant enough to watch and I enjoy following the story but the actual comedy just isn't hitting me at all. Like, not even a chuckle raised in the episodes thus far, this season. I always feel like I'm missing something with this show, as reviewers seem to think it's the best comedy going - yet when I compare it to other shows I'm watching weekly like Always Sunny, Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, Superstore, even South Park, it just doesn't hold up in terms of laughs. I can't really put my finger on why I go through long patches of this show without laughing while then occasionally finding it quite funny? Maybe it's the delivery of the jokes, or the focus on story rather than comedy? I'm finding the characters very predictable, also. For a show that's good at wrong-footing you on the major plot arc, it is often very easy to see what kind of twist or joke is coming on the more moment-to-moment basis.

I really want to like this show more than I do. This is me not liking The Babadook while everyone else raved about it all over again.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on October 21, 2018, 01:30:24 AM
Yeah, I'm finding myself in the same boat currently that I was in for the first half of season 2. I find the show pleasant enough to watch and I enjoy following the story but the actual comedy just isn't hitting me at all. Like, not even a chuckle raised in the episodes thus far, this season. I always feel like I'm missing something with this show, as reviewers seem to think it's the best comedy going - yet when I compare it to other shows I'm watching weekly like Always Sunny, Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, Superstore, even South Park, it just doesn't hold up in terms of laughs. I can't really put my finger on why I go through long patches of this show without laughing while then occasionally finding it quite funny? Maybe it's the delivery of the jokes, or the focus on story rather than comedy? I'm finding the characters very predictable, also. For a show that's good at wrong-footing you on the major plot arc, it is often very easy to see what kind of twist or joke is coming on the more moment-to-moment basis.

I really want to like this show more than I do. This is me not liking The Babadook while everyone else raved about it all over again.

I'm with you on The Babadook, it was fine but I didn't get what the fuss was about. You are however broken when it comes to The Good Place as it's lovely and makes me laugh a lot. I mean, did Special Agent Rick Justice not even elicit a laugh?
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: kittens on October 21, 2018, 07:15:35 PM
i think i may have laughed at this show once, in the episode with all the reboots. it is odd to read about people laughing at it a lot but people have different tastes don't they. i certainly must like watching the show otherwise i would stop, but i very rarely find it funny.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Scrapey Fish on October 21, 2018, 08:09:09 PM
I've found the humour level very variable throughout the three seasons but that last episode was very funny. Chidi's breakdown especially.

My only criticism is that Chidi's physique is way too ripped for his character. The actor should have shown some commitment and stayed out of the gym for six months
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on October 21, 2018, 08:31:57 PM
My only criticism is that Chidi's physique is way too ripped for his character. The actor should have shown some commitment and stayed out of the gym for six months

I've read a lot of discussion about that over the last few days, apparently Eleanor mentions his surprisingly hot body in season 1 so it ties in with that, but it is odd for a person who's so dedicated to teaching that he found time to visit a gym. On the flip side apparently the actor used to be overweight as a kid and has a lot of issues about his body and was really worried about doing the scene, so I can understand why he didn't want to stop working out.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on October 22, 2018, 08:11:57 AM
I enjoyed chidids hot body and wasn't arsed about the continuity of it
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Ant Farm Keyboard on October 22, 2018, 09:35:51 AM
My only criticism is that Chidi's physique is way too ripped for his character. The actor should have shown some commitment and stayed out of the gym for six months

Thanks for this. Next time somebody points out that I'm out of shape, I'll explain that it's commitment for a part.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: studpuppet on October 25, 2018, 04:59:39 PM
I actually cried when Ted Danson turned around at the bar and threw a towel over his shoulder like he was back in Cheers. I'm a lunatic.

Is it me, or was that actually the Cheers set (or an approximation of it?) with added plasma screens?
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on November 09, 2018, 01:53:30 PM
I really loved the latest episode, reminded me of how much I miss The Good Place despite being very fond of where the series is at right now. Intrigued by events with Shaun and co too, and am really looking forward to where the series goes next.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on November 16, 2018, 10:50:30 PM
I really enjoyed the latest one too, there were lots of great moments with Michael McKean and Janet kicking arse was a huge amount of fun. Unfortunately there's a break until December 6th now, and then we won't get the final couple of episodes until January, but I guess I'll somehow survive. I hope.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Penfold on November 16, 2018, 11:09:03 PM
I always know the gap is coming but I still hate it.

Is there a big American ratings thing in January which means the finale needs to be there? When and what is sweeps? Is it now? I think I knew it in the past but then it became Shark Week.

Can't they start the season earlier and wrap it up before the Thanksgiving and beyond holiday period? Maybe double screen the finale with NFL?
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on November 16, 2018, 11:21:15 PM
I hate it too, but have grown used to it over the years. Apparently there's now 4 sweeps weeks, in November, February, May and July. No idea why though.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Moribunderast on November 17, 2018, 12:30:36 AM
I really enjoyed the latest one too, there were lots of great moments with Michael McKean and Janet kicking arse was a huge amount of fun. Unfortunately there's a break until December 6th now, and then we won't get the final couple of episodes until January, but I guess I'll somehow survive. I hope.

If it'll cheer you up a bit, I've really enjoyed the last few episodes and found them very funny so your diagnosis of me being broken proved correct but, with proper treatment, I'm back on-board and loving the show. I've said it before but D'arcy Carden is the standout of this show, even with Ted Danson being in excellent form. Her delivery and facial expressions are superb in communicating the character and almost every joke she's given lands perfectly.

Biggest laugh for me this week was Chidi's "How did you make that so fast?!" when Jason produced a molotov. That and Jason's definition of 'evidence'.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on November 17, 2018, 12:32:16 AM
That has cheered me up! And I'd largely agree, it's a show where I love pretty much all of the characters but Janet is my favourite out of all of them, the fight scene this week was amazing stuff.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: surreal on November 20, 2018, 04:06:05 PM
Anyone else thinking that the next "twist" will be that there's no-one in the good place at all, or maybe just one or two?
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: samadriel on November 21, 2018, 12:43:32 PM
Even if this show wasn't funny, I'd stay with it for the story, but thankfully it brings the chuckles too.  That bar fight was superb.  Did anyone else pick that Doug was Michael McKean before they showed his face?  I guess I must have gotten used to the shape of his hair in Better Call Saul or something.

Anyone else thinking that the next "twist" will be that there's no-one in the good place at all, or maybe just one or two?

Consider the example of Mindy St Clair, whose misspent life still led to enough good to trap her between Places.  It could mean that only, say, wealthy philanthropists can earn a spot in the Good Place, but it does suggest that the Good Place can't be empty.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Penfold on November 21, 2018, 01:51:30 PM
Did anyone else pick that Doug was Michael McKean before they showed his face?  I guess I must have gotten used to the shape of his hair in Better Call Saul or something.

Yes!

I forgot his name though, the longer they kept hiding it the more I though it'd be Better Call Saul/Spinal Tap man, is he very famous enough to warrant that kind of tease? I don't know why I care but if they do that I expect someone outstanding and unexpected rather than noted comedic actor Better Call Saul/Spinal Tap man (who isn't Christopher Guest, as that's always the first name in my head when I think of Spinal Tap people).
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: samadriel on November 21, 2018, 02:06:38 PM
I think there's been a lot of buzz around him post-BCS, and Spinal Tap bestows automatic legend status, so fair enough.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: ishantbekeepingit on November 21, 2018, 02:45:50 PM
Let's not forget that he was also in Laverne and Shirley.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Penfold on November 21, 2018, 03:05:55 PM
I think there's been a lot of buzz around him post-BCS, and Spinal Tap bestows automatic legend status, so fair enough.

I think I would have preferred it if it was just a badly aged Michael Schur, or if it was just McKean shown from the start without the tease, he doesn't seem like someone who'd be hard to get making it a surprise for the audience.

Let's not forget that he was also in Laverne and Shirley.

Was that ever shown in the UK? I only know it from references in other things like Wayne's World and even then it was years later before I understood it and I still couldn't pick any of the cast from a line-up.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Gulftastic on November 21, 2018, 08:20:49 PM
I remember seeing Lavrne & Shirley as a youth in the late 70's/early 80's, but it never became a staple of UK TV, like it's parent show did.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: sillymisslily on November 21, 2018, 11:39:11 PM
Consider the example of Mindy St Clair, whose misspent life still led to enough good to trap her between Places.  It could mean that only, say, wealthy philanthropists can earn a spot in the Good Place, but it does suggest that the Good Place can't be empty.

Unless Mindy thrived on the company of others so putting her on her own is her own kind of torture. Given that Doug, who's ridiculously altruistic (unless he behaved badly pre-mushroom trip) is going to end up in the Bad Place, it's hard to know what the requirement to get into the Good Place is and if there's anybody there at all.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: samadriel on November 22, 2018, 02:49:50 AM
Unless Mindy thrived on the company of others so putting her on her own is her own kind of torture. Given that Doug, who's ridiculously altruistic (unless he behaved badly pre-mushroom trip) is going to end up in the Bad Place, it's hard to know what the requirement to get into the Good Place is and if there's anybody there at all.

Michael is the first demon to come up with the idea of customised Bad Places though, previously it's all been flat-out 'wasps in your nostrils' style torture; plus, pardon me if I'm remembering this wrong, but the way the Bad Place demons broke into Mindy's house is portrayed as kind of illicit, which it wouldn't be if she was simply in a custom Bad Place.  I think we can take the story of Mindy at face value.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Ant Farm Keyboard on November 22, 2018, 05:15:42 PM
I think I would have preferred it if it was just a badly aged Michael Schur, or if it was just McKean shown from the start without the tease, he doesn't seem like someone who'd be hard to get making it a surprise for the audience.

It isn't Michael Schur who is on the picture of Doug. I assumed it too, but it's actually comedian Noah Garfinkel, a writer for The Kroll Show, The New Girl and The President Show, who's a friend of producer Joe Mande.

https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2018/04/196066/new-girl-noah-garfinkel-the-good-place
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Penfold on November 22, 2018, 08:48:45 PM
It isn't Michael Schur who is on the picture of Doug. I assumed it too, but it's actually comedian Noah Garfinkel, a writer for The Kroll Show, The New Girl and The President Show, who's a friend of producer Joe Mande.

https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2018/04/196066/new-girl-noah-garfinkel-the-good-place

WHAT!?!

The world is a lie.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: TrenterPercenter on November 24, 2018, 11:34:38 PM
Gave it a go (well up to the ladybird thing) but nah, too schlocky and I didnt find the lead very funny

Also the fork thing just put me in mind of a really bad krypton smeeeegheeeed schtick.

It's the kid of thing my mum would love so I'll reccomend it to her.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: mothman on December 07, 2018, 11:38:43 AM
New episode just, er, “dropped” and it’s a blinder. D’arcy Carden should pick up a shirt-ton of awards & nominations for it, but I’ve a feeling it’s come too late in the cycle to have a hope in next year’s.

Anyone else thinking that the next "twist" will be that there's no-one in the good place at all, or maybe just one or two?

Not far off!

Steven Merchant basically playing Steven Merchant again, but it was the kind of character the scenario needed, I guess.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Gulftastic on December 07, 2018, 01:56:29 PM
She's bloody good, isn't she?
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on December 07, 2018, 01:59:42 PM
I loved it too, like you say D’arcy Carden's superb in it, I'd love to know how long she'd been working on the impersonations. I guessed that barely anyone would be in The Good Place but not to the extent that it's one person in the last five hundred years (the reveal of which hopefully we'll get in the next episode). I love that they've finally made it to The Good Place as well and look forward to seeing what they do with the concept.

It was a renewed for a fourth season the other day too which makes me shockingly happy, though as much faith as I have in Michael Schur I wouldn't mind if it came to an end either next year or the year after, I wouldn't want it to be a show which starts running out of steam. Bell said a while back that Schur had planned out seven seasons, but I don't know if that's definitely the case.

Edit: Carden had been working on it for the last four months apparently, though Schur came up with the idea a year ago: https://news.avclub.com/the-good-place-s-latest-gambit-was-over-a-year-in-the-m-1830898165
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: mothman on December 07, 2018, 03:14:37 PM
So was that the season finale? Or is there one more?
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on December 07, 2018, 04:04:41 PM
So was that the season finale? Or is there one more?

There's three more to go but the show's not back until January now.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: mothman on December 07, 2018, 05:53:28 PM
Ah, thanks. So several weeks off, show one, then several more weeks off, then show three more. Christ, American TV scheduling is weird.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: CaledonianGonzo on December 07, 2018, 07:48:29 PM
The new episode is an absolute cracker.  Prize-winning stuff from yer Janice actor.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: surreal on December 11, 2018, 01:11:42 PM
It's had 2 Golden Globes nominations announced this week, Best TV Comedy and Best TV Comedy Actress for Kristen Bell which after the past couple of episodes really seems like the wrong choice
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: kngen on December 13, 2018, 05:30:04 PM
The new episode is an absolute cracker.  Prize-winning stuff from yer Janice actor.

I'd never previously considered that Janice is the term for more than one Janet, but it does work quite nicely.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on December 13, 2018, 06:29:08 PM
It's had 2 Golden Globes nominations announced this week, Best TV Comedy and Best TV Comedy Actress for Kristen Bell which after the past couple of episodes really seems like the wrong choice

True, but D'Arcy Carden hadn't had that much to do this season until those episodes which the voters wouldn't have seen, so it is understandable. Hopefully the matter will be rectified next year though.

I'm having withdrawal symptoms already and will miss not waking up to a new episode tomorrow a great deal, I really hope it comes back at the beginning of January rather than the end.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: phantom_power on December 14, 2018, 10:23:44 AM
January 11th I think
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on December 14, 2018, 12:08:11 PM
January 11th I think

I just checked and it's the 10th in the US, and the 11th on Netflix in the UK, so that's good that there's not too long a break.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: BritishHobo on December 14, 2018, 01:09:49 PM
My girlfriend's watching season one at the moment and god I hope I'm there when Eleanor realises they're in the Bad Place.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: surreal on December 16, 2018, 09:30:26 AM
Re-watching this from the start again while it's off the air, and I'm starting to get another over-arching theory together that it's going to end up being Michael's "Bad Place" experience, in that this is all clearly torture for him trying to make things right for the 4 humans.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: kidsick5000 on December 16, 2018, 04:43:55 PM
It’s been renewed for a fourth season. What weird feeling of yay! And hmmmm that brings.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Brundle-Fly on December 17, 2018, 12:48:41 PM
Took me a couple of episodes to fully click with Season 3 but was sold by the end. Good Guest cameo.  Just realised Donna Shellstrop played by the rather wonderful Leslie Grossman is a new regular in American Horror Story
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Blumf on January 16, 2019, 11:58:35 AM
Started watching this, and finally caught up with the episodes and this thread.

It is a lovely show. Exceptionally well cast (Danson and Carden esp.), and a huge amount of ideas being thrown about (like Rick & Morty, without the Pickle Rick fanboys stinking up the place).

My only criticism would be that, surely, as a Moral Philosopher, Chidi (and doubly so once you add in Eleanor with her stubbornness) would have dug deeper into where the moral authority came from for this system, especially for infinite punishment for finite transgressions. But they're probably going to deal with this at some point.

Anyway, bump, because there's new episodes this month.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: phantom_power on January 16, 2019, 12:52:47 PM
They keep getting reset though so never gets time to fully comprehend the situation I don't think, and "reality" changes so often there isn't much pause to think it all over
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Mister Six on January 16, 2019, 01:01:15 PM
My only criticism would be that, surely, as a Moral Philosopher, Chidi (and doubly so once you add in Eleanor with her stubbornness) would have dug deeper into where the moral authority came from for this system, especially for infinite punishment for finite transgressions. But they're probably going to deal with this at some point.

Yeah it bothered me that nobody in The Good Place was particularly bothered that they were living it large while others were being tortured to death. Obviously there was a reason for that, and I briefly hoped that the corrupt system hinted at by the head demon might explain why the whole system is so morally bankrupt, but now they've gone in a different direction. Which is fine - it's a more interesting concept anyway - but I do hope this will be addressed down the line (and that they come up with a good explanation for Chidi's apparent lack of concern).
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: phantom_power on January 25, 2019, 01:47:20 PM
Fuck off, no you're crying!
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 25, 2019, 02:23:35 PM
Fuck off, no you're crying!

Eh?
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: phantom_power on January 25, 2019, 03:20:46 PM
It was quite an emotional season finale
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 25, 2019, 05:21:12 PM
Ah. Yes, The Good Place has made tear up a few times.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on January 25, 2019, 05:51:47 PM
I thought it was a bit disappointing (at least by this show's standards), they've done the Chidi memory wipe thing before and though it did affect me emotionally it wasn't that funny an episode. They could at least have done a big reveal at the end of who the two other Good Place people will be, or something a little less bittersweet.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: olliebean on January 25, 2019, 10:51:20 PM
They usually have a twist at the end of the season, don't they? Maybe that's why this didn't feel like a season finale to me; didn't realise it was until I read it here.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: phantom_power on January 25, 2019, 11:06:08 PM
I think this show changes what it is so much that to have a twist to top all that at the end of the season would be too much. It burns through plots so quickly, spending an episode on threads that other shows would drag out over a season.

I thought it was a great episode. Just the right side of soppy and still funny as well. It sets up an intriguing next season as well, with Eleanor having to pretend to be the architect, Chidi being oblivious and whatever horrors Shawn has set up as the other two people in the neighbourhood.

I do have the slight doubt that the show is backing itself into a corner though, highlighting how hard it is to get into The Good Place and how arbitrary the rulings are anyway. I don't know how it can come to a satisfactory conclusion given how the stakes are so high. They are playing with the fates of every soul in existence. I can only presume that they have it all planned out, or at least what the end game is
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: samadriel on January 26, 2019, 08:38:37 AM
Fuck off, no you're crying!

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/beavisandbutthead/images/b/b1/Butt-head.png)
"Huhuhuh... you were moved."

I do have the slight doubt that the show is backing itself into a corner though, highlighting how hard it is to get into The Good Place and how arbitrary the rulings are anyway. I don't know how it can come to a satisfactory conclusion given how the stakes are so high. They are playing with the fates of every soul in existence. I can only presume that they have it all planned out, or at least what the end game is

I want major stakes by the end of the show, I want them to save the universe.  I think that's the plan too, there's no point telling us that no-one gets into the Good Place if they're not going to fix it (a much darker show could let it stand, but even then it's a bit of a Chekhov's Gun, it's a glitch itching to be solved).

I didn't mind that this wasn't a particularly funny episode (gossip rag guy vs Tahani aside), the montage Michael shows Chidi and Eleanor was properly affecting, and we're now on the way to an interesting season 4, which I expect will come out of the gate stronger than season 3 did.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: BritishHobo on January 26, 2019, 04:03:59 PM
Shit, I thought there was an episode left because Netflix counted the two-part opener as one ep and called this one episode 12. I was assuming we'd get one more episode where we see who the other two people are. Not too bothered though, as I did think it was a really sweet ending and a nice set-up for the next season.

One thing I did wonder, is it really recreating the experiment exactly if they have Tahani, Jason and Chidi there? It's a bit closer now Chidi has no memory, but the three of them also being tortured was part of the whole thing.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: kidsick5000 on January 26, 2019, 06:35:20 PM
Amazing episode and William Jackson Harper delivered the hell out of those lines.

Have a listen to the podcast. Some nice behind the scenes info - like just how much acting went into the scene where Chidi and Elenor watch the film (more than you might think)
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 26, 2019, 06:59:51 PM
Was a nice surprise to see Marc Evan Jackson (Shawn) make an appearance in season nine of Curb Your Enthusiasm. He's the master of playing snooty, officious characters.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Ludicrous Display on January 26, 2019, 07:31:16 PM
Am I being thick or is Chidi asking for the memory wipe purely so it won't be awkward with bad Australian accent ex, if so that's a bit of a dickhead move like. Destroying your cosy, potentially eternal relationship with the woman you love because you can't hold it together like the other 3, again, am I missing something?

Obviously Eleanor being the architect would make things complicated regardless, and they usually find each other but still, seems selfish from Chidi rather than a selfless act to save them all from eternal torture.

Thought the season was patchy overall but I'm well up for another season.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Nowhere Man on January 26, 2019, 07:42:24 PM
I think I must be confused too because I thought the same thing. If that was the case, Chidi ends up looking like a massive dickhead doesn't he? I kept expecting Eleanor to say how much of an inconsiderate bellend he was being to erase their entire relationship simply for him being uncomfortable around his ex.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on January 26, 2019, 07:44:22 PM
His argument is that he feels he'll definitely screw up, that because he's so anxious at one point he'll make a mistake and that will lead to all of them being tortured in hell for the rest of eternity. Which is in character, at least, but yeah, it's pretty selfish that he couldn't at least try to think of an alternative solution.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: phantom_power on January 26, 2019, 07:57:05 PM
His argument is that he feels he'll definitely screw up, that because he's so anxious at one point he'll make a mistake and that will lead to all of them being tortured in hell for the rest of eternity. Which is in character, at least, but yeah, it's pretty selfish that he couldn't at least try to think of an alternative solution.

He mentioned trying to think of other alternatives. I think he just knows himself and any chance of blowing this is too big a risk. Remember he didn't break up with her because he didn't love her but to try and protect her from the reality of the situation. He is making a massive sacrifice, even though he is also forcing Eleanor to make one too. She knows, though, that this is the only way as well
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Gulftastic on January 27, 2019, 12:15:04 PM
Tahani continues to make me laugh. I love her. And Jason's pizza bit was great, too!
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on January 27, 2019, 12:23:37 PM
So given that the new Good Place people are the worst people for our beloved gang, who do you think the final two members will be? Given that the first two were Chidi and Tahani's it'll be for Eleanor and Jason, and unless they conveniently kill someone else off it'll have to be someone already dead, but they could use people we've met before.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: BritishHobo on January 27, 2019, 12:47:53 PM
I get it with Chidi - it's one thing to want to try, but when an eternity of torture is at stake, plus the afterlives of all human beings for the rest of time, sometimes it's better to just admit you know you'll screw it up.

For some reason I assumed the last two would be strangers again - I think I thought Maya Rudolph had said that, but I must have imagined it. It'd make sense though, or they'll have to do more memory wipes on the new arrivals.

I'm quite excited though - I'm loving how accurately horrible the nasty gossip-loving prick is, and if they're able to humanise him and make him become a better person as the experiment requires, that should make for a good season.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on January 27, 2019, 01:12:40 PM
So given that the new Good Place people are the worst people for our beloved gang, who do you think the final two members will be? Given that the first two were Chidi and Tahani's it'll be for Eleanor and Jason, and unless they conveniently kill someone else off it'll have to be someone already dead, but they could use people we've met before.
Stone Cold Steve Austin and Blake Bortles? Does Jeremy Bearimy mean they can be from any point in time?
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on January 27, 2019, 01:37:32 PM
Stone Cold Steve Austin and Blake Bortles? Does Jeremy Bearimy mean they can be from any point in time?

Heh, they would be great if possible, but I don't know about the Jeremy Bearimy side of things.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: C_Larence on January 27, 2019, 11:06:40 PM
I would have thought that Eleanor's person will be her Dad. I forget when they last time they saw each other was meant to be, is it sufficiently long enough ago that he conceivably wouldn't recognise her as an adult?
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: phantom_power on January 28, 2019, 09:33:53 AM
Could Eleanor's be Chidi? Therefore as part of the experiment she can't tell him about their relationship? And they can't use him to teach the others how to be good
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: paruses on January 30, 2019, 02:07:43 PM
Sorry for being really thick - I watched the last run but with only half an eye on it. It was Ok but didn't really pull me in. As a result I really don't understand what the experiment is. Surely if they're just re-running the experiment to show that people can change for the better then the 4 originals aren't needed at all. Obvs they have to be there because this is a TV programme etc. but just from a scientific standpoint am I right?

Or is it something different?
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: Bad Ambassador on January 30, 2019, 03:13:01 PM
They need Chidi because someone has to teach the others about moral philospohy.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: hummingofevil on February 07, 2019, 01:24:35 AM
Im bit going to read this thread but just to say I’ve neatly finished Season 1 and I love it and yes it really does make me laugh. Some of the almost throwaway lines are so good. The line about her struggling with couture due to her ample bosoms had me clapping the TV.

Also is there a greater opening scene to anything ever. I howled and howled at the first 3mins.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: alan nagsworth on May 19, 2019, 11:48:50 PM
Apologies for the bump - does anyone actually give a fuck about bumps? I don't, and I retract my apology - but I just got done ploughing through all three seasons across the last week or so and fucking loved it. The heart behind this thing is enormous and it's just so bloody lovely. I've watched it through a couple or three hangovers and it's been such a source of comfort. I struggled with it at first because of the twee vibe and the CGI which I found jarring and annoying but once I got stuck into it, it's just such a wonderfully realised thing. There is so much attention to detail in every scene.

People in here have bemoaned it for being a "comedy that isn't very funny" which is confusing to me because I don't think that matters. Some of it does me make me laugh a lot personally but even so, I don't see why it has to be outright hilarious when the plot is so compelling and intelligent. It is a great television program. Just done a big old cry at the season three finale and can't waaaaiiit for more.

Also want to echo all the love for D'arcy Carden. The Janet(s) episode was fantastic, she played a perfect impersonation of the four others. Her Jason in particular was absolutely bang on. Very very strong talent.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on May 19, 2019, 11:58:50 PM
yea the cgi and crazy twee colour palate are really nicely realized, cant wait for next series

also, that was fucking bang out of order bumping this thread, you reckless twat
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: alan nagsworth on May 20, 2019, 12:08:55 AM
also, that was fucking bang out of order bumping this thread, you reckless twat

Straight to the Bad Place for me when I die I bet!! HAHA!

<does animated Ted Danson little boogie movement>
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on May 20, 2019, 12:12:01 AM
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Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: easytarget on May 20, 2019, 06:41:47 AM
People in here have bemoaned it for being a "comedy that isn't very funny"
"wrap it up, Elton John"

fuck off (not you Nags) it's *very* fucking funny.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: icehaven on August 01, 2019, 08:21:47 PM
Very late to the party as always but just ploughed all 3 in a week, absolutely loved it and can't wait for S4. I also think Eleanor's Dad will be one of the new subjects.

As much as I've loved it and think the performances of all the main cast are terrific in their own right, my main criticism would be that there's absolutely zero chemistry between Chidi and Eleanor. They worked brilliantly as chalk and cheese stuck together but finding they actually got on and became close, but I wasn't convinced by or invested in their romantic relationship one bit and I think it'd have been better if they'd remained platonic best friends. Apart from the odd clinch the sentimental film bit at the end could even have stayed virtually the same.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: peanutbutter on August 01, 2019, 11:50:52 PM
For whatever reason, the last wave of episodes put me off a lot. I can't remember them (beyond Ted Danson giving some gatekeeper guy a gift? And Adam Scott in a few), but they just fell totally flat for me. Actually unsure if I saw the 2 episodes that aired after christmas....
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: icehaven on August 02, 2019, 09:13:33 AM
Re; Clues from the get-go that they weren't in the real good place - iirc they never address the fact that nearly everyone (including the main 4) are very young to be dead. Unless I missed it there's no mention of anything like everyone reverting to their younger selves after death, and some people (e.g. the couple that temporarily move in with Eleanor and Chidi in S1) are older anyway. Bit of a giveaway how almost no one in heaven seems to have made it past 40.

Just realised that 3 of the 4 of them died by being squashed by something too, nice.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: selectivememory on August 02, 2019, 12:10:48 PM
For whatever reason, the last wave of episodes put me off a lot. I can't remember them (beyond Ted Danson giving some gatekeeper guy a gift? And Adam Scott in a few), but they just fell totally flat for me. Actually unsure if I saw the 2 episodes that aired after christmas....

Yeah, I rapidly lost interest in it during this latest run. Turned out to be a show that was completely dependent on having an interesting and surprising plot, and when that kind of fizzled out at the start of Season 3, the characters just weren't interesting or funny enough to sustain interest. The tedious sub-plot where they were going around trying to help people from their lives get into the Good Place was the point at which I checked out completely.

I might try and watch it again though, given that they're ending the show after the next season, because at least then there's a chance it could become tighter and more focused again. It really did feel to me that during the third season they were just dragging it out as much as possible. And I really did enjoy the first two seasons.

Edit: I did actually watch the multiple Janets episode though, because people were raving so much about it, and that was very good.
Title: Re: The Good Place
Post by: olliebean on August 02, 2019, 01:00:56 PM
Re; Clues from the get-go that they weren't in the real good place - iirc they never address the fact that nearly everyone (including the main 4) are very young to be dead. Unless I missed it there's no mention of anything like everyone reverting to their younger selves after death, and some people (e.g. the couple that temporarily move in with Eleanor and Chidi in S1) are older anyway. Bit of a giveaway how almost no one in heaven seems to have made it past 40.

If you'd been paying attention to how people vote, you'd know that all old people are cunts and definitely end up in the Other Place.