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Your Best / Worst Film Lists For 2021

Started by Small Man Big Horse, January 01, 2022, 01:43:32 PM

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Small Man Big Horse

Here's my Top 10 for the best films of the year:

1) Strawberry Mansion - 9.3/10
2) Mad God - 8.8/10
3) Pig - 8.5/10
4) The French Dispatch - 8.4/10
5) Barb And Star Go To Vista Del Mar - 8.3/10
6) Diana The Musical - 8.3/10
7) Titane - 8.3/10
8) The Green Knight - 8.2/10
9) Last Night In Soho - 8.2/10
10) Benedetta - 8.1/10

Here's my Top 20 out of all of the films I watched last year:

1) 3 Idiots (2009) 9.5/10
2) Strawberry Mansion (2021) 9.3/10
3) Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani (2013) 9.1/10
4) Babe Pig In The City (1998) 9.0/10
5) Tux and Fanny (2019) 8.9/10
6) Mad God (2021) 8.8/10
7) Eega (2012) 8.8/10
8 ) Chitty Chitty Bang Bang (1968) 8.8/10
9) Le Tableau (2011) 8.8/10
10) All That Jazz (1979) 8.8/10
11) The Cremator (1969) 8.7/10
12) The Outrageous Baron Munchausen (1962) 8.7/10
13) Too Young to Die! (2016) 8.7/10
14) The Night of the Hunter (1955) 8.7/10
15) Jagga Jasoos (2017) 8.7/10
16) Marona's Fantastic Tale (2019) 8.6/10
17) The Man Who Stole the Sun (1979) 8.5/10
18) Portrait of a Lady on Fire (2019) 8.5/10
19) The Day the Earth Caught Fire (1961) 8.5/10
20) The Thin Man (1934) 8.5/10

And I'll add my Worst lists in a bit, once I've worked them out.

Magnum Valentino

I'd be interested in that 8.3/10 review for Titane if you're posting it.

Small Man Big Horse

Here's the top 10 worst films I saw last year:

1) Giddy Stratospheres (2021) - 0.1/10
2) The Party (1968) - 0.3/10
3) Dear Evan Hansen (2021) - 1.2/10
4) Habit (2021) - 1.2/10
5) King of the Ants (2003) - 1.8/10
6) Vulgaria (2012) - 2.0/10
7) Army Of The Dead (2021) - 2.0/10
8) Bio-Zombie (1998) - 2.0/10
9) Top Gun (1986) - 2.0/10
10) A Ghost Waits (2012) - 2.3/10

And the worst of 2021:

1) Giddy Stratospheres (2021) - 0.1/10
2) Dear Evan Hansen (2021) - 1.2/10
3) Habit (2021) - 1.2/10
4) Army Of The Dead (2021) - 2.0/10
5) Willy's Wonderland (2021) 2.5/10
6) The Eyes Of Tammy Faye (2021) - 3.4/10
7) Venom: Let There Be Carnage (2021) - 3.8/10
8) Werewolves Within (2021) - 5.1/10
9) Vivo (2021) - 5.3/10
10) The Mitchells Vs The Machines (2021) - 5.6/10

Quote from: Magnum Valentino on January 01, 2022, 02:54:58 PMI'd be interested in that 8.3/10 review for Titane if you're posting it.

There was a short thread about it here where I posted a review: https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=90461.0 - where I posted "I enjoyed this an awful lot, it's a captivating, weird fucker of a film, I'm not quite sure about everything it was trying to say (or more to the point that I'm not certain if my interpretation of certain aspects is correct or not) but visually it's stunning and I'm really looking forward to reading more about it. 8.3/10".

Magnum Valentino

Cheers, I did look for a thread before starting mine but Google Judased me.

Small Man Big Horse

Quote from: Magnum Valentino on January 01, 2022, 03:18:10 PMCheers, I did look for a thread before starting mine but Google Judased me.

It's done that to me a lot recently, I'm not sure why but it can find some new threads but others.

Crenners

I didn't watch any 2021 films that I can recall but here's my top ten which I watched for the first time in 2021.

1. Walkabout

I adored the whole thing and ultimately, I was left doubled over sobbing for the infinite possibilities which we've missed forever. Life-affirming but also crushing at the same time. Jenny Agutter is magnificently civilised and ultimately tormented beyond nature. I can't really put it into words.

2. Once Upon A Time In The West

Despite its second place and despite only watching it for the first time last year, this could well be my favourite film ever. It could almost work just as well without any dialogue, and yet the script is a masterpiece of economy and colour. The score has brought me to tears many times over the last nine months or so and the scene with Jill at the railway station is my favourite shot from any film. Jason Robards gives one of the most charismatic performances ever seen.

3. The Red Shoes

Shout out to my main man @cUnT-CrAzY for the tip-off. What a magical, stunning, beautiful film. I ended up buying it twice last year with the Criterion 4K UHD release turning up just before Christmas and it looks even better. I've never seen a film like this before and I really didn't know what to expect. I will hopefully watch it many more times before I die.

4. The Passion of Joan of Arc

I'd heard of this film for many many years but even in the midst of a silent phase and having recently seen Dreyer's Vampyr, I wasn't prepared for the emotional impact this had on me. It's not easy viewing but it feels essential to me. The gradual degradation and catharsis of Falconetti's performance is really like nothing else I've seen. It's a cliché but it's absolutely true. It feels like it will still be as powerful in 500 years time.

5. Schindler's List

There's little to say here except I regret not watching it much much sooner. Of course, the events recounted guarantee that it will be immensely powerful and devastating, but I thought the central performances from Neeson, Fiennes and, especially, Ben Kingsley were remarkable and humane and had me sobbing throughout. The score and cinematography are also magnificent. Thanks to my wife for persuading me to watch it.

6. La La Land

And this. I expected very little besides some hackneyed schmaltz and some catchy tunes but I loved this from the opening number to the ending which had me in floods of tears. I don't cry much at anything else but I guess I cry a lot at films! I thought Emma Stone was particularly brilliant and the cinematography and staging was a real Hollywood tour de force. One I'll rewatch plenty of times in years to come. Another one where the 4K release is outstanding.

7. The Tale of Zatoichi

I'd seen and enjoyed the Beat Takeshi remake nearly twenty years ago and I'd heard about the long-running original series of films but even with a fondness for Japanese period films, I didn't think I'd love this as much as I did. While the story and distinctive action are entertaining enough, the real beauty of the film is the central performance by Shintaro Katsu who manages to appear both invincible, light-hearted and tenderly vulnerable all at the same time. It's one of the great performances of Japanese cinema for me, right up there with the best of Kurosawa. He's one of the most loveable characters ever created.

8. Gamera - The Heisei Trilogy

OK, putting a trilogy in one spot is obviously cheating but these films are effectively inseparable in terms of the people who worked on them and the cohesive vision which they achieved. To my taste, I would say that these are perhaps the best kaiju films ever made. The practical effects, the suits, the direction, the cinematography, the score, the balance of the human drama and monster mayhem, the darker tone, I could go on and on. I watched these twice last year and recently started again with the Arrow commentaries. There are some individual Godzilla movies which have higher highs but for a thoroughly satisfying three-course daikaiju feast, this is unbeatable entertainment.

9. Blanche

I really fell in love with the films of Walerian Borowczyk last year and while Blanche may be one of his less infamous and less 'entertaining' pieces of work, it captured his so much of what I adore about his films in a concise, beautifully staged drama which looks like a moving tableau. While it lacks the overt sexuality of some of his more well-known films, there's a simmering eroticism here which charges even the most mundane scenes. The framing and composition, the lighting and the period score are all stunning. I could have picked almost any of his films but this is the one which pulls me back.

10. Winners and Sinners

Technically, Sammo Hung directed many better films than this Hong Kong buddy comedy, many of which I saw for the first time last year, but none made me quite as happy as this. The humour is something which either works for you or puts you off. For me, Richard Ng, Charlie Chin, Jackie Chan, Cherie Cheng and Sammo himself are on top form here, very watchable, at the peak of their powers making something daft and broad for a massive audience which loved them. Sammo's performance of the theme tune, later ripped off by Mika, never fails to make me smile. The lyrics about the simple joys of pissing about with your mates are also really touching. With all the political changes in Hong Kong, we will almost certainly never see films like this again. Is it really better than Dreyer's Vampyr or Alan Ladd in Shane or the swordplay masterpiece Duel to the Death? No, but it doesn't half cheer me up like little else.


What Ever Happened to Baby Jane, The Wet House, The Killing of A Sacred Deer, and Nothing Bad Can Happen were my favourites that I watched last year.

non capisco

My 20 favourite films that I saw in a cinema in 2021. I don't THINK I've forgotten anything. Best thing I did all year was sack Cineworld Unlimited off for the Curzon equivalent. I've absolutely loved being back at the flickers.
1.Petite Maman
2. The Green Knight
3. Summer Of Soul
4. Licorice Pizza
5. Another Round
6. Gagarine
7. The Father
8. Dune
9. No Time To Die
10. Quo vadis, Aida?
11. Drive My Car
12. The Power Of The Dog
13. Fever Dream
14. People Just Do Nothing: Big In Japan
15. The Sparks Brothers
16. Pig
17. C'mon C'mon
18. 7 Prisoners
19. West Side Story
20. Zola

sevendaughters

ok I did a Facebook post called the 29 Best Films I Saw For The First Time This Year (which was not 100% true) which helped me paint over the cracks of not really paying attention what was new and/or old. Time mushed into one whole thing and became meaningless. I've since amended it to include those very good films that I saw early December and got rid of one, so here's 30 films.

Beau Travail (1999, dir: Claire Denis)
The Travelling Players (1975, dir: Theo Angelopolous)
The Marriage of Maria Braun (1978, dir: Rainer Werner Fassbinder)
Weekend (1967, dir: Jean-Luc Godard)
Naked (1993, dir: Mike Leigh)
I Do Not Care if we Go Down in History as Barbarians (2018, dir: Radu Jude)
Local Hero (1983, dir: Bill Forsyth)
The Bird With The Crystal Plumage (1970, dir: Dario Argento)
High and Low (1963, dir: Akira Kurosawa)
A Brighter Summer Day (1991, dir: Edward Yang)

Locke (2013, dir: Steven Knight)
Rats in the Ranks (1996, dir: Bob Connolly and Robin Anderson)
Blind Chance (1987, dir: Krzysztof Kieślowski)
The Five Obstructions (2003, dir: Lars von Trier and Jørgen Leth)
Sorry to Bother You (2018, dir: Boots Riley)
The Day of the Jackal (1971, dir: Fred Zinnemann)
Edna, the Inebriate Woman (1971, dir: Ted Kotcheff)
The Chronicle of Anna Magdalena Bach (1968, dir: Jean-Marie Straub and Danièle Huillet)
Sexy Beast (2000, dir: Jonathan Glazer)
Quo Vadis, Aida? (2020, dir: Jasmila Žbanić)

Metropolitan (1990, dir: Whit Stillman)
Scanners (1981, dir: David Cronenberg)
First Cow (2019, dir: Kelly Reichardt)
Gadjo Dilo (1997, dir: Tony Gatlif)
A Special Day (1977, dir: Ettore Scola)
Broken Strings (1940, dir: Bernard B. Ray)
Gabbeh (1996, dir: Mohsen Makhmalbahf)
Happening (2021, dir: Audrey Diwan)
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (2019, dir: Quentin Tarantino)
Another Round (2020, dir: Thomas Vinterberg)

the bottom 15 was a total no brainer

TFW No GF
Giddy Stratospheres
Yesterday
Only The Animals
Dune
Bad Trip
Paloma Faith: As I Am
Feels Good, Man
The Social Dilemma
On Chesil Beach
The Theory of Everything
They All Laughed
Lucky Grandma
Chungking Express
Can't Get You Out of My Head

there's a 16th film that merits inclusion in the Crap British thread but I decided not to include it as my cousin is the lead in it. it is fuckin abysmal.

Small Man Big Horse

Thanks for all the responses so far, it's made for fascinating reading and I'll definitely be checking out the films mentioned that I haven't yet seen.

Quote from: sevendaughters on January 01, 2022, 09:17:32 PMTFW No GF
Giddy Stratospheres

I'm stunned to hear there's a film worse than Giddy Stratospheres and am almost tempted to watch it, but having read a couple of reviews I'm pretty sure it's something I'd find horrendous.

chveik

i have to catch up on this year's films but here are my new old 5 bags of popcorn

Safe (1995)
Wake in Fright (1971)
Autumn Sonata (1978)
Syndromes and a Century (2006)
Alice in the Cities (1974)
Badlands (1973)
Close-Up (1990)
Two-Lane Blacktop (1971)
Happy Hour (2015)
Blue Collar (1978)
Wanda (1970)
Taipei Story (1985)
The World (2004)

zomgmouse

#11
new films top 20:

1. Titane (Julia Ducournau)
2. Petite Maman (Céline Sciamma)
3. "The Death of David Cronenberg" [short] (David Cronenberg)
4. Bad Luck Banging or Loony Porn (Radu Jude)
5. Drive My Car (Ryūsuke Hamaguchi)
6. Red Rocket (Sean Baker)
7. The Card Counter (Paul Schrader)
8. Strawberry Mansion (Kentucker Audley, Albert Birney)
9. Broadcast Signal Intrusion (Jacob Gentry)
10. Benedetta (Paul Verhoeven)
11. Coming Home in the Dark (James Ashcroft)
12. We're All Going to the World's Fair (Jane Schoenbrun)
13. The Hand of God (Paolo Sorrentino)
14. Mad God (Phil Tippett)
15. "Train Again" [short] (Peter Tscherkassky)
16. The Medium (Banjong Pisanthanakun)
17. In the Earth (Ben Wheatley)
18. Zeros and Ones (Abel Ferrara)
19. The French Dispatch (Wes Anderson)
20. Gritt (Itonje Sølmer Guttormsen)

non-new films top 30:

1. Pulse (Kiyoshi Kurosawa, 2001)
2. Killer of Sheep (Charles Burnett, 1978)
3. "Transformations" [short] (Barbara Hirschfeld, 1972)
4. Kings of the Road (Wim Wenders, 1976)
5. The Meetings of Anna (Chantal Akerman, 1978)
6. Mafioso (Alberto Sordi,
7. Death By Hanging (Nagisa Ōshima, 1968)
8. Heat (Michael Mann, 1995)
9. Knife in the Head (Reinhard Hauff, 1978)
10. The White Meadows (Mohammad Rasoulof, 2009)
11. Pastoral: To Die in the Country (Shūji Terayama, 1974)
12. "Gasman" [short] (Lynne Ramsay, 1998)
13. "Begone Dull Care" [short] (Evelyn Lambart, Norman McLaren, 1950)
14. The Fall of the House of Usher (Jean Epstein, 1928)
15. Out 1 (Jacques Rivette, 1971)
16. World's Greatest Dad (Bobcat Goldthwait, 2009)
17. Love Exposure (Sion Sono, 2008)
18. "Ritual in Transfigured Time" [short] (Maya Deren, 1946)
19. Freedom for Us (René Clair, 1931)
20. Calamari Union (Aki Kaurismäki, 1985)
21. 35 Shots of Rum (Claire Denis, 2008)
22. Sonatine (Takeshi Kitano, 1993)
23. Junior Bonner (Sam Peckinpah, 1972) (*not the best video quality)
24. A Prairie Home Companion (Robert Altman, 2006)
25. "The Arrival" [short] (Peter Tscherkassky, 1999)
26. The Clowns (Federico Fellini, 1970)
27. "Junior" [short] (Julia Ducournau, 2011)
28. Fat Girl (Catherine Breillat, 2001)
29. High Hopes (Mike Leigh, 1988)
30. "A Song of Love" [short] (Jean Genet, 1950)

(full non-new list here: https://boxd.it/eFr0w)

lazyhour

A bit surprised to see Werewolves Within on your Worst list, SMBH. I watched it a couple of days ago and really enjoyed it. It played out like an Agatha Christie hotel-based murder mystery, but with humour and gore. Like a lower-budget, sillier companion piece to Knives Out.

Really interested to hear why you hated it!

Small Man Big Horse

Quote from: lazyhour on January 02, 2022, 09:24:30 AMA bit surprised to see Werewolves Within on your Worst list, SMBH. I watched it a couple of days ago and really enjoyed it. It played out like an Agatha Christie hotel-based murder mystery, but with humour and gore. Like a lower-budget, sillier companion piece to Knives Out.

Really interested to hear why you hated it!

Most people I know really enjoyed it too so I may well be wrong about it, but here's the review I posted at the time:

Werewolves Within (2021) - Supposed comedy horror based on a PC Game, but it's light on comedy and light on horror and long only on tiresome tropes you'll have seen too many times before. This got some good reviews upon its release but I'm not sure why, it's got a decent cast (with Veep's Sam Richardson, Other Space's Milana Vayntrub and Casual's Michaela Watson the highlights, though it wastes What We Do In The Shadows' Harvey Guillén) but it's humdrum and largely bland until the final half hour where it picks up a bit,
Spoiler alert
though the final twist is disappointing, at one point it looks like the whole werewolf thing is going to be one big fake out but then the obvious suspect turned out to be one. Ugh.
[close]
5.1/10

SteveDave

The Best-
Wait Until Dark (1967)
Kid Detective
The Day The Earth Caught Fire (1961)
Wake In Fright (1971)
Violation
Never Let Go (1960)
The Long Good Friday (1980)
The Velvet Underground
Four Hours At The Capitol
Last Night In Soho
Get Back
Don't Look Up
Spider-Man: No Way Home

The Worst-
Annette
Old
Malignant
We're All Going To The Worlds Fair

Herbert Ashe

2021, two fairly predictable highlights:

Memoria (Apichatpong Weerasethakul) which, along with Syndromes (see below) has got me firmly on the AW bandwagon in a way I wasn't quite before. The recording studio sequence one of my highest highlights of the year.
Drive My Car (Hamaguchi) - at least, I think lots of it is great, and it may just be my own taste that made me lose touch with it towards the end (I have a bit of a weariness towards - avoiding spoilers - some of the psychological territory involved, along with how this connects with the play). I've never read any Murakami to judge, but I believe that Hamaguchi added a lot to the short story, so I wonder if my problem is more with elements of the source material.

Other 2021 films worth mentioning:

Beyond the Infinite 2 Minutes: No-budget one-take indie japanese genre film, the inevitable comparison is One Cut Of The Dead, but sci-fi. And it's pretty good! I assume the cast is mostly non-actors, but they are game and look to be having fun. It adds complications to the premise each time it threatens to run out of steam.
Introduction; In Front of Your Face (2 x new Hong Sang-Soo): Satisfying additions to the Hong catalogue, although I don't know how they'd play for anyone new to him. Saw the latter on an enormous Picturehouse Central screen which was amusingly incongrous.
Heard She Got Married: New from Matt Farley/Charles Roxburgh, who were new to me this year.


Old stuff: Best non-2021 films seen for the 1st time this year:

Sokout (Mohsen Makhmalbaf, 1998)
First Cow (obviously not 'old' but non-2021)
Local Legends (Matt Farley, 2013) my first Farley/Roxburgh/Motern film, enjoyed this much more than pretty much any US indie/Sundance darling I can think of.
Syndromes & a Century (Apichatpong Weerasethakul, 2006) Saw this on 35mm, and things clicked for me that they never quite had before with Apichatpong.
Violent Panic: Big Crash (Fukasaku Kinji, 1976) does what it says on the tin.                                     

Barsaat (Raj Kapoor, 1949); Dil Se... (Mani Ratnam, 1998); Fly (S.S. Rajamouli, 2012)
Standout Indian films for the year. Dil Se especially I don't think I've at all qualified to unpick everything that I *think* it's doing, and if this is complicated by Shah Rukh Khan's presence. But I don't think a single film I watched all year surprised me more in so many ways. (did someone mention it in the Bollywood thread? if so, thanks for the heads-up)

Conquest (Lucio Fulci, 1983); The Nude Vampire (Jean Rollin, 1970)
Never felt in a rush to try any Fulci before but for some reason watched this Conan cash-in one of his and dug it's weird vibe (did he do anything else like this?). Likewise I'd tried a couple of Rollin's in the past and not really clicked but this felt like it was faintly feeding off a similar post-68 mood to stuff I do like.


Worst? nothing from 2021 that I really hated. The nearest were Cryptozoo & Censor on mubi.

As for older stuff: pointlessly sitting through Mighty Peking Man because it was on the Shaw Brothers box definitely the 90 minutes I'd rather spent doing almost anything else.

lazyhour

Glad someone else didn't enjoy Censor. It looked great and I was really hopeful it would deliver on the promise of the crushingly underwhelming Berberian Sound Studio. Alas it was just as underdeveloped and clearly hoping that its setting and mood would be enough.

Herbert Ashe

Yea, I'm not much of a horror type but I liked the idea of making something around the whole 80s video nasty panic, this didn't seem to do anything much that had any real specificity to the period.

lazyhour

There's definitely a thread to be had (or at the very least a big ol' list to be made) about movies that try to capture 'descent into madness' - some do it well, but so many fail. There are so many clichés to avoid.

Funcrusher

There was a piece in The Independent recently specifically prompted by Censor which put down in print for the first time I've seen something that has been the case for as long as I've been reading film reviews - the tendency of a lot of British film critics to write wildly over generous reviews of British films. It has always made me a lot less likely to watch new British films as I just don't trust reviews from UK reviewers. There was a lot of pre-release hype for Censor in Sight and Sound, including a video nasty themed cover, so I was considering giving it a look, but the trailer just looked like a lot of woodenish performances and a clunky central idea. As much as anything else, although the video nasties thing was a UK phenomenon almost all of the films were either Italian or American so it feels a bit contrived.

sutin

Best -
Annette
The Sparks Brothers
Licorice Pizza
Last Night In Soho

Worst -
Home Sweet Home Alone
Giddy Stratospheres (which I admittedly quite enjoyed, but it's undeniably awful)

Egyptian Feast

Quote from: sutin on January 03, 2022, 12:42:41 AMGiddy Stratospheres (which I admittedly quite enjoyed, but it's undeniably awful)

I hadn't heard of this until I saw it mentioned a few times in this thread. You all make it sound unmissably terrible, but the sheer number of 9/10 and 10/10 reviews on imdb (mostly dated July 27th 2021) suggests you've failed to appreciate a masterpiece and will have egg on your face when it is universally recognised as a classic.

sutin

Quote from: Egyptian Feast on January 03, 2022, 01:14:46 AMI hadn't heard of this until I saw it mentioned a few times in this thread. You all make it sound unmissably terrible, but the sheer number of 9/10 and 10/10 reviews on imdb (mostly dated July 27th 2021) suggests you've failed to appreciate a masterpiece and will have egg on your face when it is universally recognised as a classic.

Oh it's dogshit, don't let anyone tell you different, but kinda fascinatingly so. It seems to be the vanity project of a very rich model who stars as the lead. The story is an afterthought and the acting is atrocious (imagine a film starring Richard Herring and Nick Helm where they're the best thing about it). I love The Long Blondes so I also got a kick out of seeing Kate and Dorian's cameos but it's bad, very bad.

Egyptian Feast

I don't doubt it at all, but am still curious about how it became a 10/10 masterpiece if you happened to catch a screening on July 27th 2021. My theories so far include spiked refreshments and experiments with a special new type of gas pumped into the air conditioning.

sutin

I'm guessing it's friends of the posh bird who made it. Maybe she hosted a private screening on her Dad's yacht on the 27th of July?

sevendaughters


Best of 2021:

1. The Beta Test
2. Dune
3. No Sudden Move
4. Old Henry
5. Boiling Point
6. Language Lessons
7. Pig
8. Last Night in Soho
9. I Care A Lot
10. Judas and the black Messiah

Worst of 2021:

1. The Conjuring 3
2. Venom 2
3. Free Guy
4. Malignant
5. The French Dispatch
6. The Many Saints of Newark
7. Shoplifters of the World
8. Coming 2 America
9. Spiral
10. The Last Duel

Still to see on my list: Strawberry Mansion, The Humans, Licorice Pizza, Nightmare Alley, West Side Story, The Lost Daughter, The Tragedy of Macbeth, We're all going to the worlds fair. (All have good reviews)


sevendaughters

Quote from: Crenners on January 03, 2022, 05:50:24 PMGo on, I have to ask...

it just wound me up, I guess? I like a bit of estrangement in my art but it just amounted to sadcop cryarsing for me. It's not put me off giving In The Mood for Love a go down the line, but I found it charmless.

Crenners

Quote from: sevendaughters on January 03, 2022, 05:53:44 PMit just wound me up, I guess? I like a bit of estrangement in my art but it just amounted to sadcop cryarsing for me. It's not put me off giving In The Mood for Love a go down the line, but I found it charmless.

Haha, fair enough. It's nothing like ITMFL, fwiw, but WKW's 90s/00s films are pretty much all very brooding/moody/HK sentimental. I never thought anyone would find Faye Wong, Tony Leung, Brigitte Lin or Takeshi Kaneshiro charmless but I respect that's how you felt.

Could I recommend Fallen Angels? Was originally intended as the third story of CE but he ended up expanding it into its own thing. Kind of a darker, funnier, sexier take on Chungking in several ways, but also more structurally patchwork than Story A/Story B.

I do really like ITMFL but I prefer his less 'mature' stuff. Watched The Grandmaster the other day, gorgeous cinematography but reminded me of like a cologne advert or something. Bored the tits off me.