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Title: Rugby League 2021
Post by: dr beat on February 19, 2021, 05:16:27 PM
Its hard to believe, even eighteen months ago, where we would be now. 

Yes of course I'm talking about Widnes playing Gavin Henson live on BBC.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Schrodingers Cat on February 19, 2021, 05:27:19 PM
And yet, at Cas, something's never change (https://www.castlefordtigers.com/mobile/article.php?id=7266). Long old season for us I think. We look in the early stages of a rebuild to me. The spine of Evalds, Richardson, Trueman and McShane looks strong (even if I'm not a fan of Richardson), the pack looks light on impact and power and the backline looks slow. Realistically, I am hoping for a top 6 finish and a cup run if we can get decent draws. Don't expect to enjoy watching much of it though...

More generally, expecting Saints and Wigan top 2, HKR, Leigh and Wakey bottom 3 - everyone else could pretty much finish anywhere depending on injuries.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: dr beat on February 19, 2021, 05:34:16 PM
Always been a fan of McShane.  He had a good spell with us when we went up in 2012 and played a big part in getting us some wins in what was a bit of a crazy season - mostly got nobbed by 60+ points, the odd 40-point win, and beating Wigan 37-36, our first win that season in fact, after going 18 points behind twice in that game.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Gulftastic on February 19, 2021, 08:10:13 PM
McShane played in what may be my favourite game ever when Leeds beat Manly in 2012 to win the World Club Challenge. He's become a bit of shithouse recently though. Still a cracking player, mind.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Schrodingers Cat on March 19, 2021, 11:35:31 AM
Powell announced as leaving Cas at end of the season. (https://castlefordtigers.com/article.php?id=7307) Expected to be Wire bound. Lots of players also out of contract/retiring at the end of the year as well. Hopefully can have one last big season with the squad he's built before a complete changing of the guard next year. Though I do worry we won't replace him well. Playing in the Championship within 3 years of we don't.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: dr beat on March 23, 2021, 04:59:08 PM
Anyone see the games on Sunday? I thought Henson made a few errors but kicked well, and generally looked in pretty good shape.  Widnes did ok but felt we allowed too many yards in defence.  Whitehaven next week will be a more realistic test.

Very impressed with Fev as well.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Gulftastic on March 23, 2021, 05:46:06 PM
I totally forgot to watch. Very annoyed when I realised. I've taken time off this weekend, so won't be making that mistake again.

Sad to hear of the passing of Jeff Grayshon. He was right at the end of his playing career when I started watching in '86, but I enjoyed what I saw. RIP Jeffasaurus.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: dr beat on March 23, 2021, 06:17:12 PM
BBC iPlayer coverage wasn't great, to put it mildly.  In both games they messed up the on-screen clock (admittedly there was a long stoppage due to injury in the Widnes game), but they couldn't get the Widnes score right either.  And then the feed totally went for a while in the Fev-Bradford game.  Dave Woods was doing his best to hide his annoyance, but it was obvious he was livid.

Might try some other sources next week.  I've heard the Widnes game is on Youtube, also I've heard OurLeague covers a lot but never tried it.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Gulftastic on March 23, 2021, 07:42:47 PM
Quote from: dr beat on March 23, 2021, 06:17:12 PM
BBC iPlayer coverage wasn't great, to put it mildly.  In both games they messed up the on-screen clock (admittedly there was a long stoppage due to injury in the Widnes game), but they couldn't get the Widnes score right either.  And then the feed totally went for a while in the Fev-Bradford game.  Dave Woods was doing his best to hide his annoyance, but it was obvious he was livid.

Might try some other sources next week.  I've heard the Widnes game is on Youtube, also I've heard OurLeague covers a lot but never tried it.

I've had mixed results with ourleague. Some games, no problems, but the Huddersfield - Leeds friendly a week back was unwatchable for the first half.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Mr Eggs on March 27, 2021, 07:05:42 AM
Poor Leigh. Imagine them back in the grounds having voted Tory.
And MP James Grundy is only famous for getting his cock out in a pub in Lowton.

Raiders v Warriors was a banger. Raiders all out on their arse after putting the points on the board.

Greg Inglis not fit for round one. Imagine.

https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sport/19184317.greg-inglis-miss-opening-super-league-game-2021/

Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: mikeyg27 on March 27, 2021, 09:52:00 AM
Who else knew Wigan were going to come back as soon as Phil Clarke opened his mouth about Leigh not having the resources of Toronto?
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Gulftastic on March 27, 2021, 10:06:33 AM
I like that Leigh's coach looks like Smeagel pre-ring possession.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Gulftastic on March 27, 2021, 07:21:54 PM
A bit messy from Leeds but we got the points. Can't wait till we get some players back.

Absolute belter of a second game. Wish HKR could have finished the job.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Fr.Bigley on March 27, 2021, 07:25:56 PM
Quote from: Gulftastic on February 19, 2021, 08:10:13 PM
McShane played in what may be my favourite game ever when Leeds beat Manly in 2012 to win the World Club Challenge. He's become a bit of shithouse recently though. Still a cracking player, mind.

I used to know him as a youngster socially, his family were shithouses but lad can ball.  Loads of that Parkside lot were. Chev walker included.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Mr Eggs on April 02, 2021, 09:18:48 PM
Poor Leigh.

Nah. Fuck 'em.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Gulftastic on April 08, 2021, 09:54:43 AM
Now Luke Gale is injured. I don't know what's going on at Leeds but it's looking like the season is a write off just 2 games in. Saints will massacre us on Saturday.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: dr beat on April 09, 2021, 01:05:31 AM
Nice to see Clive Sullivan currently being honoured on the Google homepage.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Mr Eggs on April 10, 2021, 06:01:35 PM
JJB doesn't look well.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Gulftastic on April 10, 2021, 08:04:18 PM
Without the deserved sending off, I reckon we'd have taken Saints. Ah well. Much better viewing than I feared.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Mr Eggs on April 30, 2021, 02:28:21 AM
If Jake Connor wasn't a dick head, could Hull win the Grand Final this year?
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Old Thrashbarg on April 30, 2021, 06:48:58 AM
They could. But I don't think Connor being a dick changes that much. As frustrating as it is when he gives away unnecessary penalities, his annoyingness is part of what makes him so good.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Old Thrashbarg on April 30, 2021, 06:52:18 AM
It'll be interesting to see what the RFL do with Clubb. Given the specificity of what he's alleged to have said and Savelio being a quiet, unassuming player, it's hard to imagine it being a false allegation.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Mr Eggs on May 08, 2021, 04:24:58 PM
Jake Connor is a dick head.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Schrodingers Cat on May 28, 2021, 10:43:45 PM
Think we may be seeing the beginning of the end of Castleford as a Super League team. :(

Lost our academy, no new stadium coming, playing terrible under our current coach, piss poor new coach for next year... worrying times.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Gulftastic on May 29, 2021, 09:44:31 AM
Quote from: Schrodingers Cat on May 28, 2021, 10:43:45 PM
Think we may be seeing the beginning of the end of Castleford as a Super League team. :(

Lost our academy, no new stadium coming, playing terrible under our current coach, piss poor new coach for next year... worrying times.

What's happening with the stadium? I thought they'd broken ground near Xscape?
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: dr beat on June 03, 2021, 03:36:37 PM
What do we think of the Challenge Cup semis? Hull FC v Saints looks tasty, and might Cas have something to prove?

In other news, Fev I reckon will be too good for Widnes :(
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Gulftastic on June 03, 2021, 03:40:34 PM
Cas did one of my least favourite things last week and rested a load of players before a big game. I think a team needs to stay sharp, and weeks off don't help. Still, for the sake of my mate Mick, I hope they win.

And I'd like Hull to win, because I'm sick of the Saints' hype.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Schrodingers Cat on June 03, 2021, 03:59:07 PM
Quote from: Gulftastic on May 29, 2021, 09:44:31 AM
What's happening with the stadium? I thought they'd broken ground near Xscape?

Nothing been announced yet, but the general assumption is it's dead in the water. Brexit didn't help, and COVID has been the final nail in the coffin. It looks like they didn't get enough interest from stores to buy in to the shopping centre, and no-one will risk that sort of investment in a shopping centre now. There was a thing a little while ago about their construction plans changing to include more recreation nearby and a smaller shopping district, but been no announcements it movement since. Cas fans have pretty much all assumed it's a bust, and just waiting for that to be formally admitted to. And as much as I love Wheldon Road, it isn't up to standard. We've now had at least 3 separate stadium plans be given planning permission and then fall through due to lack of funds. And whilst that has mostly been out of our control and it does annoy me when opposition fans suggest Cas have just been dragging our feet over it or not trying hard enough, I don't think we can continue that much longer as we are and still be a top flight enterprise.

Quote from: dr beat on June 03, 2021, 03:36:37 PM
What do we think of the Challenge Cup semis? Hull FC v Saints looks tasty, and might Cas have something to prove?

In other news, Fev I reckon will be too good for Widnes :(

Cas might have something to prove, but don't have the quality to compete if Warrington play well. I think we'll put up more of a fight against Wire than we did against Leeds, but still expect to lose comfortably. Wire by about 20 I reckon. Not a pasting, but just never really in doubt.

And then I fancy Saints to edge Hull, but by less than 10.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Old Thrashbarg on June 03, 2021, 04:24:04 PM
Saints couldn't have been much more dominant last week, right from the opening kick off, but Hull managed to stay just about in touch for most of the game. And it didn't help that the previous game 5 days before was 60 minutes of defending our own line against Leeds. I'm hoping if we can get a better start on Saturday we can at least cause Saints some problems.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Old Thrashbarg on June 03, 2021, 04:32:47 PM
And in other rugby league news: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-57270358
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Mr Eggs on June 05, 2021, 04:26:15 PM
Jake Connor almost not a dickhead.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Schrodingers Cat on June 05, 2021, 07:23:29 PM
Never in doubt...
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Mr Eggs on June 05, 2021, 09:59:23 PM
Cheers Daryl.

Cannot wait for you to turn up at Warrington and win fuck all.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Old Thrashbarg on June 20, 2021, 10:11:24 PM
In an interesting twist, it seems like Jake Connor will be playing fullback for the Combined Nations team against England on Friday. Clearly the best English fullback in the competition on form, so nice for him to have a direct opportunity to (possibly literally) say "Fuck you" to Wane, though I would rather have him available for Hull given we've only got 18 fit players. With another couple likely being called up for this game as well.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: mikeyg27 on June 25, 2021, 09:22:40 PM
Just had the current opening paragraph on Shaun Wane's wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Wane) pointed out to me:

QuoteShaun David Wane (born 14 September 1964) is an English rugby league and rugby union coach, and former professional rugby league footballer. He is currently the head coach for the England national rugby league team, and is the former head coach of the Wigan Warriors from 2011 to 2018, where he won 3 Super League Grand Finals. He enjoys talking at Leigh Sports Village about his whole life story about being the world record holder for the person who has ate the most pies in the globe. Wane is currently on a diet programme and had a PT, however it was circulated Shaun said some inappropriate words and actions whilst on his sessions. The Personal Trainer is taking Shaun to court over this in which he will have to face a trial. Wane made a statement regarding this, in which he strongly denied all allegations made about him.

This England vs non-England (except the English players) game is quite fun but I'm not sure what we're learning from it.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Old Thrashbarg on June 25, 2021, 11:05:11 PM
It was an enjoyable game to watch, but a bit embarrassing for England/Wane. Losing against a team of players thrown together a couple of days ago with no real practice time, half of whom are eligible for England.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: mikeyg27 on June 26, 2021, 10:11:02 AM
'm less worried about this than I was after England lost that 1st Exiles game (remember that?). I thought a lot of the English All-Star players clearly had a point to prove (Leeming in particular must have jumped up a lot). Also, there were quite a few England players that I don't really expect to be near the WC squad.

I was thinking about the 'pick players in position' debate and how when Australia and New Zealand pick non-centres at centre they pick full-backs (pretty sure Australia fielded an entire backline of full-backs at some point) yet when we do it we put in a 2nd-rower, and what that says about our priorities. I'm not against the idea of Tomkins at FB and Connor at Centre.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Gulftastic on June 27, 2021, 03:28:00 PM
Decent bit of biff in the Leeds Salford game. Konrad Hurrel went looking for trouble and found it, getting put on his arse with one punch by Mossop.

Two sendings off and three yellow cards all told.

Good win for my Rhinos, mind.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: dr beat on June 27, 2021, 05:42:52 PM
Great win for Widnes away at Bradford, didn't expect that at all.  I was bracing myself for losing by a cricket score.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Old Thrashbarg on July 22, 2021, 09:25:50 AM
Australia and New Zealand pull out of the World Cup. Whilst it's easy to understand their reasons why, it's less easy to understand their timing. No reason they couldn't have made their decision last week before the tournament was confirmed as going ahead.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: mikeyg27 on July 22, 2021, 12:17:37 PM
What odds that there's an Australia - New Zealand test series in November?

If the other pacific nations follow suit then I don't see how the competition can go ahead. But then Tonga might see this as a golden opportunity to win the cup, so who knows.

The football World Cup being in November / December 2022 really fucks with the ability to just delay by a year too, because if a RLWC takes place and nobody sees it does it really take place at all?
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Old Thrashbarg on July 22, 2021, 12:41:38 PM
Yeah, absolutely no way the tournament happens without the other Pacific nations. I imagine the discussions taking place now are along the lines of getting assurances that those nations will still be entering. If they do, they might hopefully be able to field stronger teams with some of the Aus/NZ players with appropriate heritage potentially being available.

I can't imagine there are any particular concerns about player safety from the NRL and it's mostly about disruption to their pre-season. And if that is the case, it's ridiculous that they couldn't just move the season back a couple of weeks to accommodate.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: mikeyg27 on August 05, 2021, 01:08:53 PM
So, 2022 then. TBH I expected this when John Dutton came out and said it was 50/50 last week.

France seemed they were going to host 2025. Would they want to risk putting in all the effort to organising something that's going to get shafted at a minute's notice if the Aussies can't be bothered?

Didn't think all that much of the restructuring rumours last week either.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: dr beat on August 05, 2021, 11:28:54 PM
Maybe the least worst out of bad options.  But yes trying to work around the football WC will be a headache.

On the other hand, maybe not so bad if Qatar gets mired in bad publicity?
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: yeah_cheers on August 05, 2021, 11:33:15 PM
League is on its arse, isn't it?

I was brought up during the Stones Bitter Championship years, and despite switching seasons, introducing several expansion teams that no longer exist, getting rid of Great Britain/tours, restructuring the league system several times, and changing the rules of the game every year... I'm not sure it's worked out, y'know.

Where do you even begin to fix it?
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: dr beat on August 05, 2021, 11:40:54 PM
The pandemic has probably been the biggest threat I've known, but the late 70s seemed to be a real low as well.

Other sports have chopped and changed over the years. RL just needs to weather this current storm.  It's a great shame about Toronto in particular. I went over there in 2018 to watch Widnes.  The reports about the ground being packed were absolutely true.

2000 WC was another real low point from which lessons were learnt.  Let's keep fingers crossed for 2022.

RL fans are incredibly passionate and protective about the sport.  We just need to channel it in the right way.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: mikeyg27 on September 04, 2021, 10:04:47 PM
I'm dogsitting at the moment, and the little bastard suddenly needed a walk with ten minutes of Saints - Catalans left. "No bother, this is over anyway" I thought.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Gulftastic on September 04, 2021, 10:38:08 PM
What a day of drama. Follow that, day 2!
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: dr beat on September 12, 2021, 09:08:40 PM
Talking about drama, sounds like a game down at Widnes today. 8-all going into the last 5, turnovers aplenty and the usual drop goal fest.  Bradford get a DG over with 2 mins to go, only for Widnes to win it with a penalty on the hooter from over the halfway line.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: mikeyg27 on September 23, 2021, 10:56:52 PM
Glad that Leeds put Wigan out of their misery. Wigan have just been such a dour, abject team in the latter stages of this season, easily the least entertaining of the playoff sides.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Gulftastic on September 24, 2021, 08:13:47 AM
As much as I enjoyed us nilling Wigan again, that was a dull game. We did what we had to do, I suppose.
Ground out a win against the worst attack in the league.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Gulftastic on September 24, 2021, 10:12:10 PM
To the surprise of no one, it turned out not to be Warrington's year.

Just like the last one, I suppose.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: mikeyg27 on September 24, 2021, 11:02:29 PM
Not gonna lie, when Warrington somehow conspired to be behind at half-time I had my suspicions. I didn't even think Warrington were that bad but they wasted so much possession. Hull KR were good though and Tony Smith might be the best coach of the Super League era.

Most importantly of all, it guarantees a new team in the Grand Final.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: dr beat on September 24, 2021, 11:13:19 PM
Gutted for our yellow and blue friends.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Mr Eggs on September 24, 2021, 11:28:15 PM
Absolute shower of clowns.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: monkfromhavana on September 25, 2021, 10:50:30 PM
I know this is Union, not league, but can anyone please tell me how to find out the attendance for today's Wasps game against Bristol? It appears to be a state secret.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Joy Nktonga on September 26, 2021, 04:48:21 PM
According to the front page at https://www.premiershiprugby.com/ under "fixtures & results" the attendance was 8,500. The match report at Bristol Bears says att. was 0! At least they have a match report up; Wasps keeps timing out when I click on it.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: dr beat on October 01, 2021, 06:30:51 PM
Edit: incorehent, soz, but looking forward massively to next week at OT.  As much as a marrow.

Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: mikeyg27 on October 01, 2021, 10:51:18 PM
As much as I'd love to see Les Cats win next Saturday, history has taught me to always bet on the infrastructure.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: dr beat on October 09, 2021, 07:02:28 PM
Thoughts so far? Can't see beyond Saints winning the arm wrestle in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: dr beat on October 09, 2021, 07:23:52 PM
Hello!
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Mr Eggs on October 09, 2021, 07:38:11 PM
Catalan suddenly look shagged aht.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: Mr Eggs on October 09, 2021, 08:01:22 PM
Bollocks.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: dr beat on October 09, 2021, 08:04:08 PM
That was immense.  Congratulations/commiserations to both teams.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: mikeyg27 on October 09, 2021, 11:27:21 PM
Quote from: mikeyg27 on October 01, 2021, 10:51:18 PM
As much as I'd love to see Les Cats win next Saturday, history has taught me to always bet on the infrastructure.

Look, I don't like that I was right either. That was juuuust about the right result, but there really wasn't much in it.

I will say though, compared with when Castleford and (especially) Salford lost the Grand Final I don't feel like that was Catalans only shot to win it. Mind you, I also would've thought in 2012 that Warrington would have won a GF by now so what do I know?
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: dr beat on October 23, 2021, 02:33:46 PM
Anyone watching France v England?
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: mikeyg27 on October 23, 2021, 03:19:22 PM
Yep! France really fucked with that opening kickoff. Literally game over after 10 minutes. They've done a lot better from 20mins on but I can't work out if that's just because England have started to take the piss.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: dr beat on October 23, 2021, 04:04:20 PM
France the better team in this 2nd half.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: mikeyg27 on October 23, 2021, 05:58:43 PM
Wish there was a 2nd test TBH, France were much better once they got that fuckery out of their system.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: dr beat on October 23, 2021, 06:54:13 PM
A strong France could be a great thing for the game.
Title: Re: Rugby League 2021
Post by: dr beat on November 27, 2021, 06:17:44 PM
Bumping this to say well done Sir Kev