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Saved By The Bell

Started by Famous Mortimer, August 15, 2020, 08:51:33 PM

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Famous Mortimer

They're doing a new version with Mario Lopez and Elizabeth Berkley, apparently?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4fDGvXGzq0

I know it's just the mastery of the trailer-maker's arts, but it looks...good?

Or, in case you always hated it, here's the long running Funny Or Die series "Zack Morris Is Trash" - https://www.funnyordie.com/zack-morris-is-trash

Gulftastic

I was too old  to be the target audience when it was first around, but it was shit, wasn't it?


sutin

Quote from: Gulftastic on August 15, 2020, 09:08:12 PM
I was too old  to be the target audience when it was first around, but it was shit, wasn't it?
Well yeah, but it had it's charms. There was a lot of unintentional humour.

jobotic

Love all those comments from people a bit younger than me going on about how their generation is the best because they had shit like Saved By The Bell and Knightrider.

Stupid teens now don't even shout "Ho" when you shout Thundercats at them as they come out of an illegal grime rave.

Small Man Big Horse

The bits with the adults amused, but the bits with the kids largely didn't do it for me. It's from the writer of Great News which was sometimes really fun and sometimes really average, so hopefully will be, um, like that but a bit better? Yeah, why not.

Shoulders?-Stomach!

I think Saved By The Bell was just 'shit you watched because that's all that was really going on at that time on Sunday morning'.

It has nostalgia in the sense that it was imprinted. To be fair, recognisable theme tune, Screech, general anodyne characters surrounded by tacky sets. Kenan & Kel was similarly formulaic but perhaps a bit more fondness as it was so completely lacking in ambition and virtually every episode was completely identical. Even as a kid you're sat there marvelling at the fact it's a show just about fuck all.

Also, Saved By The Bell has extremely retro titles which are bang in fashion right now, and one or two of the cast went on to have a career.

However, these days if you want to get noticed with the true jugend in-crowd you shout on the street:

C-I-T-Y
You can see why
These guys, the neat guys
Know they're streetwise


https://youtu.be/xphmqW_5zvA

Now there was a show which managed to beat either of them in the sense that it was broadcast a fair amount on UK TV for a period yet probably nobody outside of a handful of 34 year old white men will even recognise its existence.




Shoulders?-Stomach!

But yeah, this remake, literally no-one alive will even remember it having existed in 5 years time, including Elizabeth Berkeley.

Sin Agog

Quote from: Small Man Big Horse on August 15, 2020, 09:31:31 PM
The bits with the adults amused, but the bits with the kids largely didn't do it for me.

I feel the same about Dustin Diamond's porn career.

Shoulders?-Stomach!


Inspector Norse

Quote from: Shoulders?-Stomach! on August 15, 2020, 09:34:57 PM
Even as a kid you're sat there marvelling at the fact it's a show just about fuck all.

Kenan and Kel, the Seinfeld of Saturday morning TV

idunnosomename

i watched the theme toon then turned it off


idunnosomename

Mr Belding isn't as bald as I remember so not sure what to do with my nascent CaB idol joke

George White

the weird thing is some of the "kids" in tv fashion are pushing thirty, unlike, the original series which cast actual teens (or pre-teens in the case of Dustin Diamond), aside from Leanna Creel as Tori who was in her early twenties.

Also, the main female lead Josie Totah is a transgender female, and so is her character. Previously had a career playing camp little boys with the manner of a middle-aged character actress, now she's an attractive teenage girl with the manner of a middle-aged character actress.


kalowski

Quote from: Gulftastic on August 15, 2020, 09:08:12 PM
I was too old  to be the target audience when it was first around, but it was shit, wasn't it?
Yes, it was shit.

SavageHedgehog

I remember watching an ad for Saved By the Bell: The College Years during the not-boring Sonic cartoon where what I now know was Screech met up with two of the others and said "the Three Musketeers are back together again!" and the audience laughed . I didn't get it, I assumed it was something smart I'd get when I when I was their age.

I never watched much of any Saved by the Bell but for some reason I did watch that TV movie about it a few years ago, which was based on Dustin Diamond's book and was made with his endorsement, and has a bit where he snickers on set over the I'm So Excited scene and is told off for it, because he was the one who was smart enough to know it would one day become a meme you see.

The prospect of a self-aware Saved by the Bell reboot trying to ignite nostalgia for the wave of ironic nostalgia from 8 or so years ago just makes me a bit sad. I wonder if there's anything out there now which is oblivious enough to become nostalgic snark fodder for the 2040s?

George White

it was just filler.
I remember Screech pretending to be an elderly Oirish woman named Sinead O'Connor.

reminder that Saved by the Bell began as a vehicle for Hayley Mills. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Morning,_Miss_Bliss

Chriddof

There's loads of relatively recent Disney Channel / Nickelodeon sitcoms which feel quite close to the likes of Saved By The Bell. Hannah Montana, iCarly, and other stuff from the last 15 years may have a smidgen more self-awareness to them, but they all have a similar kind of unintentional lameness not too far removed from SBTB.

Famous Mortimer

Quote from: SavageHedgehog on August 15, 2020, 10:51:14 PM
The prospect of a self-aware Saved by the Bell reboot trying to ignite nostalgia for the wave of ironic nostalgia from 8 or so years ago just makes me a bit sad.
The show itself is nearly 30 years old, though, so it's no sillier than the trend for 60s nostalgia when I was a lad in the 90s. What happened 8 years ago? I think it's more that it was popular enough to keep being referenced in other pop culture down the years. Kinda like "Cobra Kai", 90s fashions, things of that nature. NBC looked at its properties for this new streaming service, worked out the amount of new stuff they wanted to make, worked out which old actors would work for cheap, and here we are.

I'm also pretty sure that's the original Max in one scene, who Dustin Diamond accused of being a paedophile (he certainly liked the company of children, befriending a very young Neil Patrick Harris at the same time; but, NPH is still friends with him so he's...probably okay?).

Well, I'm now at the "defending Saved By The Bell" stage of my life. Stay in school, kids, or you could end up like me.


Shoulders?-Stomach!

Quote from: idunnosomename on August 15, 2020, 10:30:52 PM
Mr Belding isn't as bald as I remember so not sure what to do with my nascent CaB idol joke

Is he beld

idunnosomename

Quote from: SavageHedgehog on August 15, 2020, 10:51:14 PM
I remember watching an ad for Saved By the Bell: The College Years during the not-boring Sonic cartoon
do you mean the one with scratch and grounder or the weird one with sally acorn that furries jerk off over (literally)

(though they probably jerk off over scratch and grounder too)

SavageHedgehog

Scratch and Grounder. The serious one was dull and depressing

Quote from: Famous Mortimer on August 15, 2020, 11:23:41 PM
The show itself is nearly 30 years old, though, so it's no sillier than the trend for 60s nostalgia when I was a lad in the 90s. What happened 8 years ago? I think it's more that it was popular enough to keep being referenced in other pop culture down the years. Kinda like "Cobra Kai", 90s fashions, things of that nature. NBC looked at its properties for this new streaming service, worked out the amount of new stuff they wanted to make, worked out which old actors

It's not so much the nostalgia-pandering that bothers me so much as the self-awareness. I feel if you're going to bring this back it should be a cheerfully dumb three camera sitcom like the original was. I dunno, I guess it's pretty harmless. I did love Cobra Kai.

Famous Mortimer

Fair enough. I'm also wondering what'll happen when they've burned through their caffeine pills gag, done a bit about Screech being in jail for something creepy and had Zack make an appearance as either President of the Earth or a Rickety Cricket-style failure.

Quote from: Famous Mortimer on August 16, 2020, 02:50:19 AM
Fair enough. I'm also wondering what'll happen when they've burned through their caffeine pills gag, done a bit about Screech being in jail for something creepy and had Zack make an appearance as either President of the Earth or a Rickety Cricket-style failure.
Zack is supposed to be the Governor of California, quite believable for how much of a slimeball he was.

Jumblegraws

Quote from: Famous Mortimer on August 16, 2020, 02:50:19 AM
Fair enough. I'm also wondering what'll happen when they've burned through their caffeine pills gag, done a bit about Screech being in jail for something creepy and had Zack make an appearance as either President of the Earth or a Rickety Cricket-style failure.
I hope there will be a heartfelt tribute to Mr Tuttle, the original gang's science teacher/drivers ed instructor/glee club leader and whose actor is now dead in real life. I hope there isn't a Jimmy Fallon guest appearance.

I am interested in how Screech's non-appearance will be handled. Anyone here ever read Dustin Diamond's Behind the Bell? I remember when he went on Stern to enthusiastically promote it and had to face down a series of abusive callers, to Stern's uninhibited amusement. Nowadays he claims he had next to no input on the ghost written content, even though he endorsed the aforementioned TV movie based the book in the meantime.

I much preferred Hang Time and California Dreams. Those Peter Engel shows were very formulaic, but fun.

They seemed similar in style to later sitcoms like Scrubs and Community.

Jumblegraws

Quote from: confettiinmyhair on August 16, 2020, 10:50:52 AM
I much preferred Hang Time and California Dreams. Those Peter Engel shows were very formulaic, but fun.

They seemed similar in style to later sitcoms like Scrubs and Community.
Screech cameos in an episode of Hang Time. The sleazy salesman character Gem Diamond appeared in both Saved by the Bell and California Dreams. If this revival has any sort of success, I think it will lead to expansion of the Engelverse.

Famous Mortimer

I remember a disappointingly large amount of the "California Dreams" theme song, off the top of my head :(

idunnosomename

I don't remember a single time in this show that any of the cast were saved by a bell

Kryton

That episode with the school shooting was a bit much though.