Cuckolding (NSFW)

[Video Game Fan 2000]

I'd like to congratulate everyone on five pages and no Erika Moen comic

[thenoise]

i dunno much about paintings (although i would say titillation is not necessarily the main goal of nude paintings, compared to porn).

Managed several successful wanks to The Art Book as a teenager. It helped that a teacher i fancied at the time was rather on the curvaceous side. Nice big chubby thighs.

As you were.

[TrenterPercenter]

As you seem to have studied the papers on this - how many famous paintings are there of nude women that include the woman's lover where the (nude) woman is ignoring him(?) and looking at the viewer?

Again you seem to be a bit confused old bean; John Berger did the study exactly on this; he says that in the whole of the European oil painting tradition there is maybe 20-30 nudes that do not subscribe to this format.  Hard for you to take I'm sure but he probably knows just a tad bit more about art than you.

You can watch the TV version of it if you like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T0ou_Ab4Fs

[Buelligan]

You're saying that it was normal for women to be painted naked with their lovers and those women would, commonly, have their eyes fixed on the viewer of the picture.  That's clear.

I'm saying, great, if there's a huge tradition of this, please, point me at examples of it.  Just ten or twenty would do.

[pigamus]

Perennially on the relationship subreddits:

"I (F) agreed to a threesome after my boyfriend (M) moaned about having one for ages, I really enjoyed it but now he's gone all weird and passive-aggressive"

Yeah, I think there's a big difference between getting sexually excited by something and enjoying it. There probably are cucks who do both - well obviously there are. But I think there's probably more who can't help themselves getting excited but then hate themselves afterwards. Humiliation is powerfully erotic but when it fucks with the male ego, look out.

[paruses]

Yeah, I think there's a big difference between getting sexually excited by something and enjoying it. There probably are cucks who do both - well obviously there are. But I think there's probably more who can't help themselves getting excited but then hate themselves afterwards. Humiliation is powerfully erotic but when it fucks with the male ego, look out.

shut up you worm.

[Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse]

I think the point about guys pushing their girlfriends to agree to a threesome only to regret it because they've been brainwashed by porn, is that porn can reinforce a fantasy because it's real people acting out your fantasy. And in the fantasy version everything goes according to plan and you don't suddenly get hit with weird feelings about cheating and betrayal during or afterwards. Guys might be sure they're totally cool with their girlfriend being fucked by another guy (or even another girl) but then something about the reality of it hits them and suddenly none of it is cool and never will be again.

Absolutely, some people are fine with watching their partner with someone else, or knowing their partner sleeps with other people. They shouldn't be shamed for it. Neither should the people who would take that as a huge betrayal. The only thing that's morally wrong is if you're lying to your partner and doing something you know would break their heart if they found out.

[Video Game Fan 2000]

What if we just got rid of having bodies, has anyone thought of that yet

[TrenterPercenter]

You're saying that it was normal for women to be painted naked with their lovers and those women would, commonly, have their eyes fixed on the viewer of the picture.  That's clear.

I'm saying, great, if there's a huge tradition of this, please, point me at examples of it.  Just ten or twenty would do.

Again I'm not saying this; John Berger the celebrated art critic in his famous study on European Oil paintings did; if you are arguing about whether that is true or not then it is an argument with him (he's dead).  Personally I would tend to believe him with his expertise, interest and study in the area over you.

There is a video i've linked to which has some of these pictures in it if you are that interested. 

[pigamus]

I mean there's nothing wrong with thinking you'll love something but finding out you don't, but you can't just be a cunt about it afterwards. Honestly, men! Cuh!

[chveik]

What if we just got rid of having bodies, has anyone thought of that yet

that brain in a vat fella, i wonder what happened to him

[Video Game Fan 2000]

can't have a gender and sexuality enscribed on you if you're out for a wank

[TrenterPercenter]

I think the point about guys pushing their girlfriends to agree to a threesome only to regret it because they've been brainwashed by porn, is that porn can reinforce a fantasy because it's real people acting out your fantasy. And in the fantasy version everything goes according to plan and you don't suddenly get hit with weird feelings about cheating and betrayal during or afterwards. Guys might be sure they're totally cool with their girlfriend being fucked by another guy (or even another girl) but then something about the reality of it hits them and suddenly none of it is cool and never will be again.

Basically exactly what I was saying; they see it in porn and think I'll have a go at that it made me horny; then the reality of the situation occurs when your partner is actually enjoying themselves a bit too much you start feeling inferior.  Some people are there for this very feeling; a feeling of powerlessness and humiliation whilst other lads are thinking it will be like the aforementioned porn where they are safe and in control.

[pigamus]

But I can't imagine the woman won't have made that point to him if he's been going on about it for ages. You know, this isn't porn, it's real life. So it's his own fault.

[bgmnts]

This is why you just remain single. As hard to resist the intense pressure put on you to couple and pump out little twats, if you do you don't have to deal with all this shit.

[TrenterPercenter]

But I can't imagine the woman won't have made that point to him if he's been going on about it for ages. You know, this isn't porn, it's real life. So it's his own fault.

Oh right you are thinking this is a conversation about fault, bizarre, but yes it is his fault.

[AllisonSays]

This is why you just remain single. As hard to resist the intense pressure put on you to couple and pump out little twats, if you do you don't have to deal with all this shit.

Come on, brother. I mean, be single or don't, have children or don't, be depressed to the point of poisonous toxicity (or don't), but this is an impossibly bleak and uncomfortable vantage point to perch on. Imagine Sisyphus happy!

[QDRPHNC]

A woman in a hotel bar at lunchtime with her arm in a sling struck up a conversation with my friend and I who were sitting at the next table. She kept talking about Kathleen Turner and raising her eyebrows suggestively, until my friend who doesn't like his time being wasted by strangers and is also gay said to me, do you just want to go?

As we stood up the husband came running from wherever sayings, lads lads it's ok we'll go! And then to his wife, WHAT DID YOU SAY TO THEM and she's going WHY DID YOU LEAVE ME ALONE.

It was quite bleak actually. They must have planned this big hot cuck weekend and then we ruined it. Still, maybe they gave it another go later and got lucky!

[mothman]

I don't claim to be an expert in modern trends in pornography[nb]Not for want of trying, eh?[/nb] but how common is it in filmed non-gonzo non-POV porn for the actresses (or even actors) to break the fourth wall and look at the camera? It's not something I've noticed anyway. Seemed to be more common in 80s/90s Euro content, but I'm not even sure about that.

[beanheadmcginty]

What if we just got rid of having bodies, has anyone thought of that yet

Pretty sure Dennis Nilsen tried this. Didn't go down well.

[pigamus]

Oh right you are thinking this is a conversation about fault, bizarre, but yes it is his fault.

Well, like I said, anybody can make a mistake. Anybody can be naïve. But what we're talking about isn't just a bloke who just gets it wrong, but a bloke who specifically goes out of his way to be a cunt about it afterwards, rather than just suck it up and admit he was wrong. Even though he was 99.9% certain to have been warned beforehand. Repeatedly. So give it rest with the passive-aggressive act, you huffy little goblin!

[TrenterPercenter]

Well, like I said, anybody can make a mistake. Anybody can be naïve. But what we're talking about isn't just a bloke who just gets it wrong, but a bloke who specifically goes out of his way to be a cunt about it afterwards, rather than just suck it up and admit he was wrong. Even though he was 99.9% certain to have been warned beforehand. Repeatedly. So give it rest with the passive-aggressive act, you huffy little goblin!

Shut up you worm.

[JaDanketies]

I was in an open relationship for about a year and I had a fine time. Being open about chatting up other women was weird. I only shagged one other woman and she only shagged one other man iirc but because there was never any expectation of monogamy there were no weird feelings. Also we only saw each other once or twice a week and didn't live together, it wasn't like I was scrubbing the bathtub while she got railed in the master bedroom. We split up for unrelated reasons.

[Nice Relaxing Poo]

Only if the big sex man steals and eats the chips, completing the humiliation.

Criticising the choice and cooking of the chips would also be a nice cherry on top.


"These are ASDA own brand AND you've given them inadequate time to crisp in the oven you miserable worm!"

[pigamus]

It's like that Gary Larson cartoon with the cold coffee in Hell. "You didn't preheat the oven! You thought of everything!"

[PlanktonSideburns]

What if we just got rid of having bodies, has anyone thought of that yet

Only dweebs who want to be uploaded onto the Internet

[jamiefairlie]

This is why you just remain single. As hard to resist the intense pressure put on you to couple and pump out little twats, if you do you don't have to deal with all this shit.

Or, you know, get married and be faithful and enjoy the ever deepening bonds and comfort of family life. It's really fucking easy to not be a stupid reckless selfish cunt, it really is (I don't mean you, just generally)

[PlanktonSideburns]

Loads a people don't want kids, marry one of them init

[bgmnts]

Or, you know, get married and be faithful and enjoy the ever deepening bonds and comfort of family life. It's really fucking easy to not be a stupid reckless selfish cunt, it really is (I don't mean you, just generally)

I don't think it is easy at all.

Havent divorce rates only ever increased since the 60s/70s, when it became a lot less socially unacceptable?

[Video Game Fan 2000]

Only dweebs who want to be uploaded onto the Internet

That'd be like being flushed down the toilet