Phil Wang?

[shlug]

Is absolutely nobody going to write 'Phil Wank'?

I found this far funnier than it really should be juxtapositioned against reading mobbd's quite thoughtful post

[Key]

I don't mind Phil Wang. He can be quite funny sometimes. But not President of Footlights funny.

Was not surprised to hear the socialism jokes on RHLST. I don't reckon his impending success and wealth is gonna motivate him much in that direction either.

[Mobbd]

quite thoughtful

That's going on the posters.

[ProvanFan]

Most wangs lean to the left, actually.

[Famous Mortimer]

A pile of bland beige nothingness. A polite breeze that passes by, affecting nothing and no one in particular. The funny one at the boat club. Jimmy Carr with the edges sanded off. A stand up whose grandfather managed a tea estate in Assam. A walking two and a half star review. Oxbridge privilege made manifest.

Not a fan.

Yup.

[Autopsy Turvey]

This is a thoughtful response and I'm thankful that you're not savaging my snowflakey ways. ;)

I'm always hoping for thoughtful, non-savage discussion if it's possible, so you're a breath of fresh air in this bearpit Mobbd!

Being flippant about the race taboo happened back in the day because there was an idea among white Liberals that the race argument was won, that being racist was absurd because "why would anyone think such pointless, incongruous, old-fashioned thoughts?" and therefore "we all know that racists are dick-heads and I am being a dick-head right now for your entertainment." But that turned out to be very, very wrong and the general idea in Liberal comedy now is to not fuck around with that.

I'm not so sure that this reckoning turned out to be quite as "very, very wrong" as the left/CRT industry would have us believe. Certainly in my lifetime there has been an increasing understanding in Britain that actual racism/white supremacy is one of the most heinously out-of-order personality deficiencies, just about the most profound moral failing of our age. It's rare to find a family now who don't have first-hand experience of living, working and loving with people of different colours and backgrounds. That's not to say there aren't still despicable individuals who shout abuse at and/or attack ethnic minorities in the street, but the rest of society knows where it stands on those shitheads.

To conclude the opposite we have to make racism much more of a surreptitious, ambient sort of problem, with deliberately vague, unprovable qualifiers like 'systemic'/'endemic'/'institutional' used, despite phenomena like eg British Asian children outperforming their white peers, or eg British Chinese workers earning more on average than their White British counterparts https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48919813. We can only really compare the extent of the problem to that of other countries; in Malaysia, for example, in areas like housing, finance and education, there are explicit policies in place to favour the Muslim Malay majority, genuinely institutionally racist policies that are illegal to question. To have this sort of heritage within him, little wonder Phil Wang doesn't see a flippant joke about absurdly simplistic ethnic differences as malicious or discriminatory, and little wonder British audiences are so much more sensitively attuned to the issue.

That could be true! But just as Wang's read that Socialists are immature/unrealistic, I'd say that antiracist multiculturalists aren't trying to be patronising or sanctimonious.

Neither were Mary Whitehouse and her NVLA, but they failed just as often as their modern-day equivalents. You put up some spirited defence of socialism and multiculturalism and I don't think it'd be wise to drag things out disputing them, you've proved to be an intelligent humane advocate so you'll know that there are intelligent humane arguments against such things.

It's really not about trying to look cool for a lot of people.

Of course, there will always be a number of earnest, committed folk with the most benign motivations, and there will always be a whole load of arrogant hypocrites aggressively showing off their own superficial virtue, motivated more by hatred of the (terminally uncool) opposition. I'm happy to conclude you're among the former, though the latter tend to dominate the arguments!

[PammySpacek]

British Asian children outperforming their white peers, or eg British Chinese workers earning more on average than their White British counterparts https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48919813.

Well, that clearly absolves everyone of everything.

and little wonder British audiences are so much more sensitively attuned to the issue.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Statues

[Theremin]

Can't believe the Prez of Cambridge Footlights doesn't support a worker-led revolution!

Sort it out Phil mate

[finnquark]

Saw him singing with a keyboard accompaniment at a garden party in his student days. The guys in the pink ties, I remember them being called. Bleak as fuck.

[Bahamadia]

I was not familiar with Phil Wang until I saw him on Taskmaster, and I found him utterly charmless. I decided to try his first podcast with Richard from back then, and he said that he didn't realise how his costume would look, and nobody told him... I take his lie about not recognising Philly Philly Wang Wang as CCBB as a joke in the same way. A lie from a man who has decided not to admit he has committed to a very weak joke.

[tinglingoxbow]

I'm not so sure that this reckoning turned out to be quite as "very, very wrong" as the left/CRT industry would have us believe. Certainly in my lifetime there has been an increasing understanding in Britain that actual racism/white supremacy is one of the most heinously out-of-order personality deficiencies, just about the most profound moral failing of our age. It's rare to find a family now who don't have first-hand experience of living, working and loving with people of different colours and backgrounds. That's not to say there aren't still despicable individuals who shout abuse at and/or attack ethnic minorities in the street, but the rest of society knows where it stands on those shitheads.

To conclude the opposite we have to make racism much more of a surreptitious, ambient sort of problem, with deliberately vague, unprovable qualifiers like 'systemic'/'endemic'/'institutional' used, despite phenomena like eg British Asian children outperforming their white peers, or eg British Chinese workers earning more on average than their White British counterparts https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48919813. We can only really compare the extent of the problem to that of other countries; in Malaysia, for example, in areas like housing, finance and education, there are explicit policies in place to favour the Muslim Malay majority, genuinely institutionally racist policies that are illegal to question. To have this sort of heritage within him, little wonder Phil Wang doesn't see a flippant joke about absurdly simplistic ethnic differences as malicious or discriminatory, and little wonder British audiences are so much more sensitively attuned to the issue.

Yes because as we all know, government-sponsored racism is the only racism that exists.

[easytarget]

I was quite enjoying him on RHLSTP until he unironically  stumbled out the tired cliche: "if you're not left wing when you're young you don't have a heart..." - the usual thing dull people say when they get old (or in his case to 31).

He's posher than Jack Whitehall.

Story checks out.

[Pink Gregory]

Anyone who thinks comedy is left-wing should listen to the last few years of RHLSTP and thoroughly disabuse themselves of that notion.

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Saw him on Taskmaster and that's it




I hope that helps

[NoOffenceLynn]

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[jobotic]

No, I feel alright thanks