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Title: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Snrub on May 31, 2022, 10:29:17 AM
https://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2022/05/30/50880/alan_partridge_goes_back_to_the_oasthouse

Series 2 of From The Oasthouse announced today as out at the end of September. 11 episodes so slightly less than last time but if it's as top quality as the last outing I won't mind too much.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: iamcoop on May 31, 2022, 10:38:13 AM
Great news.

I rate Oasthouse higher than Nomad, and it's in my top 5 Partridge things ever.

The character really excels in audio format.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: bgmnts on May 31, 2022, 10:39:40 AM
Yes!
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Post by: holyzombiejesus on May 31, 2022, 11:18:36 AM
No Seldom, no High Noon. Might be some new characters in the AP universe.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Imperator Helvetica on May 31, 2022, 12:10:02 PM
It's already up for pre-order on Audible. Only about 3 hours though - half the original.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: frajer on May 31, 2022, 12:14:38 PM
I'd just assumed this was a one-off, massively pleased to learn I am a fool!

Quote from: iamcoop on May 31, 2022, 10:38:13 AMGreat news.

I rate Oasthouse higher than Nomad, and it's in my top 5 Partridge things ever.

The character really excels in audio format.

It's one of mine too, crammed full of magnificent little details. Small stuff like how someone at the swimming baths reported Alan as "doing widths" pop into my head a lot.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on May 31, 2022, 12:19:01 PM
Just as Amazon offer me another free trial too. THAMAZON.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on May 31, 2022, 12:20:51 PM
Guess this got shelved

QuoteHaving said that, he admits to enjoying the true-crime genre ("Nothing beats settling down with a glass of wine and a plate of sandwiches to be entertained by the ins and outs of a man found battered to death in a hedge") and is considering using a second series of his podcast to explore the disappearance of a friend who fell from a pier in 2013, never to be found. "I'm just waiting to hear from Audible as they've yet to say they definitely want a second series. I'm not worried. It's just that they said they'd call and thus far they haven't. It's fine. They've not not called. They've just not called."
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: BritishHobo on May 31, 2022, 12:45:47 PM
Fucking YES. Oasthouse was incredible, the absolute perfect blend of all the elements of different Partridge stuff. I can't wait to see what he's doing now everything good in his life has fallen apart again.

I'm so happy about this commitment they have to keep progressing Alan's life through these different projects. It would be so easy to churn out the same old stuff every year, but there's such a care for building this world in a way that makes sense.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: BritishHobo on May 31, 2022, 12:57:57 PM
Pre-ordered with a free trial - then pre-ordered James Acaster's new book with the free credit they offered me upon cancelling. Pleasure as always Audible!
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: notjosh on May 31, 2022, 01:36:22 PM
Laughed at this:

QuotePartridge said: 'When it comes to podcasting, I was a late adopter. I believed - like millions of others - that the future of broadcasting lay in hologram technology.'
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Cottonon on May 31, 2022, 01:41:57 PM
Quote from: holyzombiejesus on May 31, 2022, 11:18:36 AMNo Seldom, no High Noon. Might be some new characters in the AP universe.
This might be an obvious things you've just realised but... why the name Seldom?
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: QDRPHNC on May 31, 2022, 02:10:18 PM
Very excited for this. Although I'd rank Oasthouse just below both of the audiobooks - something about the episodic nature of it makes it less re-listenable, for some reason. Still love it though. This, the audiobooks and MMM, those are the top tier AP for me.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: The Bumlord on May 31, 2022, 03:46:10 PM
They really are pumping out the Partridge.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Utter Shit on May 31, 2022, 04:14:30 PM
FUCKING YES MATE. NOTHING MORE TO ADD.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Glebe on May 31, 2022, 04:58:47 PM
Cheers for the head's up Snrub, great news!

(https://i.imgur.com/LQ5aqjC.gif)
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: bgmnts on May 31, 2022, 05:26:27 PM
Quote from: The Bumlord on May 31, 2022, 03:46:10 PMThey really are pumping out the Partridge.

Yeah wondered this. It's fucking amazing to have such a huge amount of consistent belly laughter but is Coogan in debt or something?
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on May 31, 2022, 05:37:25 PM
Quote from: QDRPHNC on May 31, 2022, 02:10:18 PMVery excited for this. Although I'd rank Oasthouse just below both of the audiobooks - something about the episodic nature of it makes it less re-listenable, for some reason. Still love it though. This, the audiobooks and MMM, those are the top tier AP for me.

Yeah, the recent stuff makes early partridge look embarrassing really. The Day Today was good as was IAP1 but everything else from that period seems cringe in comparison.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: bobloblaw on May 31, 2022, 09:50:30 PM
The theme tune earworm returns. Just when I thought it was out.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Noodle Lizard on May 31, 2022, 09:54:47 PM
Quote from: bobloblaw on May 31, 2022, 09:50:30 PMThe theme tune earworm returns. Just when I thought it was out.

It's the smug way he says "...from the Oasthouse" that I still play in my head at least a few times a day.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: TommyTurnips on May 31, 2022, 09:56:03 PM
I've never listened to this. Is there any way to listen to it without giving money to Jeff Bezos?
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: markburgle on May 31, 2022, 11:35:12 PM
Quote from: TommyTurnips on May 31, 2022, 09:56:03 PMI've never listened to this. Is there any way to listen to it without giving money to Jeff Bezos?

Yeah it's on YouTube
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 01, 2022, 02:47:26 AM
Quote from: Cottonon on May 31, 2022, 01:41:57 PMThis might be an obvious things you've just realised but... why the name Seldom?

I've been asking this for ages. Another mini-mystery is why 'Denton' is both the name of his house and the surname of his sidekick. I wonder if that was leading somewhere. Eg it would be revealed he'd somehow moved in with Simon's parents or something. But, er, probably not that.

Ooooh and yet another mystery is why 'This Time with Alan Partridge' was so fucking shit.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 01, 2022, 02:54:39 AM
I noted recently that FTOH has the writing credits reversed. Every other recent Partridge thing has had the Gibbonseses names first and then Coogan's. This starts with Coogan. I'd been thinking anyway that this is the most Cooganised of any Partridge. That bit when he's spying on a bloke's house through the window just sounds like Steve Coogan talking(in terms of subject matter). Also a lot of it sounds very intimate - I realise that's the idea - but I wonder if Coogan wrote/improvised a lot of it by himself and then got the brothers to punch it up or something like that.

And whoever mentioned the scene where he's trying to run and speak at the same time is bang right. It's some of the best comic acting I've ever heard. Indeed the whole thing is such a high standard from Coogan. You sort of take it for granted but the range and the subtlety is amazing. Performances like this should win awards but they never do. I suppose people probably think he's just making it up as he goes along because he's so good at it.

Also who is the 999 operator in the brilliant first scene? She sounds really familiar.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 01, 2022, 02:59:54 AM
Quote from: TommyTurnips on May 31, 2022, 09:56:03 PMI've never listened to this. Is there any way to listen to it without giving money to Jeff Bezos?

If it's at all possible for you to pay for it legally then please do so. Very selfishly I want there to be more of these beyond Season 2, and that will only happen if enough people pay for it. It's essentially £8 max. And if you have an Audible free trial it would cost you nothing but it would add to the 'ratings' or whatever.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Mobius on June 01, 2022, 05:06:34 AM
Quote from: Menu on June 01, 2022, 02:47:26 AMOoooh and yet another mystery is why 'This Time with Alan Partridge' was so fucking shit.

I remember being slightly disappointed as it aired, probably because any new Partridge gets hyped up a lot, but I've absolutely loved it more and more on each subsequent rewatch. I think it's mostly excellent really.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Magnum Valentino on June 01, 2022, 08:15:50 AM
Quote from: Menu on June 01, 2022, 02:47:26 AMI've been asking this for ages. Another mini-mystery is why 'Denton' is both the name of his house and the surname of his sidekick. I wonder if that was leading somewhere. Eg it would be revealed he'd somehow moved in with Simon's parents or something. But, er, probably not that.

This is a problem with Rob and Neil Gibbons. They drop shit like this into their writing and never do anything with it, and I don't doubt for a minute that they're totally aware that it'll get people talking knowing full well they never intend to pay it off. It comes across as very smug and, in a weird way, insecure, as though a layer of obscurity will enrich their writing. It's their one failing, I think they're absolutely brilliant writers otherwise. It's like a surface level approximation of something David Lynch would do, only with Lynch everything is explicably part of the whole.

Other examples include of course the stigmata and the dummy at the window.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on June 01, 2022, 08:19:14 AM
Quote from: Magnum Valentino on June 01, 2022, 08:15:50 AMThis is a problem with Rob and Neil Gibbons. They drop shit like this into their writing and never do anything with it, and I don't doubt for a minute that they're totally aware that it'll get people talking knowing full well they never intend to pay it off. It comes across as very smug and, in a weird way, insecure, as though a layer of obscurity will enrich their writing. It's their one failing, I think they're absolutely brilliant writers otherwise. It's like a surface level approximation of something David Lynch would do, only with Lynch everything is explicably part of the whole.

Other examples include of course the stigmata and the dummy at the window.


I just assumed Allan had named his house after Simon.

Also what dummy at the window?
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Ron Maels Moustache on June 01, 2022, 09:03:25 AM
Quote from: Magnum Valentino on June 01, 2022, 08:15:50 AMThis is a problem with Rob and Neil Gibbons. They drop shit like this into their writing and never do anything with it, and I don't doubt for a minute that they're totally aware that it'll get people talking knowing full well they never intend to pay it off. It comes across as very smug and, in a weird way, insecure, as though a layer of obscurity will enrich their writing. It's their one failing, I think they're absolutely brilliant writers otherwise. It's like a surface level approximation of something David Lynch would do, only with Lynch everything is explicably part of the whole.

Other examples include of course the stigmata and the dummy at the window.

Are you sure this isn't just overthinking about odd little background details which probably weren't intended to mean very much? I just think that's a strange motivation to ascribe to the Gibbons, as if they're a couple of JJ Abramses constantly setting up mysteries which they never intend to provide the answers to, which I don't think is the case at all. The Partridgeverse isn't Twin Peaks and presumably wasn't intended to be endlessly picked over for clues to a grand overrarching metanarrative

I can honestly say I don't think any of those things would affect my enjoyment of Partridge as a whole, it's not like they break the reality of the characters like the IAP DVD commentaries do.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Magnum Valentino on June 01, 2022, 09:25:53 AM
I generally believe that with decent art in any medium there's no such thing as background details that aren't intended to mean very much and that usually, if it's in the frame or said aloud it's there for a reason whether the creator's realised it or not. When you have to pick the way things look and sound (as opposed to not being able to help the sound of a car driving past or that there's a blue sky in your shot of a field), you're making conscious choices. For art as carefully written as Alan Partridge, there's no room for things that don't mean anything, and the Gibbons (who are now directing as well) clearly know this because of how deftly they script the minutiae of neurosis.

I think it's fair to say they actually HAVE attempted something approaching a grand overarching metanarrative on the grounds that the first Partridge book literally attempts to tie everything (apart from Alan's unnamed Day Today wife coming back from the dead) together. The Gibbons' work has really succeeded at making all Alan matter. It all happened, and this is why he's like this now.

If I'm being honest (even though the hate the way it sounds), I sometimes think they're trolling. After a few years they decided to give Simon a surname, and shortly thereafter they gave Alan's house the same name. They have done this on purpose and we don't know why, and from the evidence alone it's apparent they don't know why either. That's the best way I can manage to describe my issue with it. Denton Abbey, the stigmata - it's just 'cool stuff' but it's distracting because, for me (and my wife and brother too), it did leave us going 'why have the creators done that?' (rather than 'why have the characters done that'?). Maybe it's that it brings the creation of the art into focus, I don't know. Like I say it's hard to articulate and I don't mind other people not being bothered by it. I wish I wasn't!

It doesn't affect my enjoyment of it, though, I'm not laughing any less hard because I've had to stop and scowl at the imagined writing session behaviour of three blokes in England.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Cuellar on June 01, 2022, 09:34:06 AM
I'd often wondered about 'Denton' being the name of his house. Was it actually 'Denton Abbey' in the show? I always assumed it had something to do with Simon Denton, but it's just struck me that it sounds like 'Downton Abbey', the fact that it's also Simon's name being an extra little powerplay/unnecessary mind-game Alan might play with a subordinate.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Dave The Triffids on June 01, 2022, 09:37:17 AM
Quote from: Martin Van Buren Stan on June 01, 2022, 08:19:14 AMI just assumed Allan had named his house after Simon.

Also what dummy at the window?


In some of the shots of Alan's house during "This Time with.." there is a human dummy/effigy looking out of one of the windows.  There's no context to it and it's never referred to.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on June 01, 2022, 09:43:54 AM
Quote from: Dave The Triffids on June 01, 2022, 09:37:17 AMIn some of the shots of Alan's house during "This Time with.." there is a human dummy/effigy looking out of one of the windows.  There's no context to it and it's never referred to.

Oh that's interesting. Didn't spot it.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 01, 2022, 09:47:38 AM
Quote from: Cuellar on June 01, 2022, 09:34:06 AMI'd often wondered about 'Denton' being the name of his house. Was it actually 'Denton Abbey' in the show? I always assumed it had something to do with Simon Denton, but it's just struck me that it sounds like 'Downton Abbey', the fact that it's also Simon's name being an extra little powerplay/unnecessary mind-game Alan might play with a subordinate.

I liked to imagine that it was originally the name of the house and it absolutely did Alan's head in because of Simon, but he never got around to getting the plaque removed.

I mostly imagine that because my house has a name plaque, it does my head in, but two and a half years in, I still haven't taken it down.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Utter Shit on June 01, 2022, 11:32:15 AM
I find that a very odd criticism. As has already mentioned, I don't think it's particularly meant to be a mystery, it's just a silly little aside they've thrown in. It's probably just something that they didn't think needed explaining, because it's such a small joke. Sure it would have been good to have it explained, but it's not important and certainly isn't something I'd ascribe to any idea of the Gibbons having ideas above their station.

They've shown plenty of times that they're not above isolated moments of (lol)randomness - the stigmata bit in Mid Morning Matters is a good example of something that might 'need' explaining if you weren't happy with the idea that it was just something silly they threw in. I can see how it might be unsatisfying to leave a joke open-ended like this Denton Abbey business, but extrapolating that to some notable failing of the Gibbons that speaks to their smugness and insecurity...miles off IMO.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: TommyTurnips on June 01, 2022, 12:08:08 PM
Quote from: Menu on June 01, 2022, 02:59:54 AMIf it's at all possible for you to pay for it legally then please do so. Very selfishly I want there to be more of these beyond Season 2, and that will only happen if enough people pay for it. It's essentially £8 max. And if you have an Audible free trial it would cost you nothing but it would add to the 'ratings' or whatever.

Absolutely. I just don't like giving money to Amazon or Amazon affiliated companies. So when I saw that it is an "audible exclusive" my heart sank.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: gmoney on June 01, 2022, 05:12:29 PM
"I'm scareder than a bee than you! I mean I'm more scared than a bee than you!!"
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Dickie_Anders on June 01, 2022, 05:50:34 PM
Quote from: Martin Van Buren Stan on May 31, 2022, 05:37:25 PMYeah, the recent stuff makes early partridge look embarrassing really. The Day Today was good as was IAP1 but everything else from that period seems cringe in comparison.

The radio KMKY is still really funny and among the best AP, in my opinion.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on June 01, 2022, 05:55:15 PM
Obviously the Denton thing is a coded message about Tim Key being a bastard.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on June 01, 2022, 06:00:14 PM
Quote from: Dickie_Anders on June 01, 2022, 05:50:34 PMThe radio KMKY is still really funny and among the best AP, in my opinion.

I just never got into it at all, not sure why. It just seems cartoonist and underdeveloped to me. I'll give it another go though.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Dickie_Anders on June 01, 2022, 06:02:56 PM
It is very cartoony but I don't mind that at all
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: solidified gruel merchant on June 01, 2022, 11:30:34 PM
Quote from: Dave The Triffids on June 01, 2022, 09:37:17 AMIn some of the shots of Alan's house during "This Time with.." there is a human dummy/effigy looking out of one of the windows.  There's no context to it and it's never referred to.

Could it be the dummy he gets out of the loft to practice CPR on?
Left at the window as a crude burglar deterrent?
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 02, 2022, 01:31:28 AM
Quote from: Mobius on June 01, 2022, 05:06:34 AMI remember being slightly disappointed as it aired, probably because any new Partridge gets hyped up a lot, but I've absolutely loved it more and more on each subsequent rewatch. I think it's mostly excellent really.

I did watch the first season again but it didn't improve. There were good bits in it but there was something lacking. Will definitely try it again at some point. Actually I've still not finished the 2nd season......
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 02, 2022, 01:33:15 AM
Quote from: Magnum Valentino on June 01, 2022, 08:15:50 AMThis is a problem with Rob and Neil Gibbons. They drop shit like this into their writing and never do anything with it, and I don't doubt for a minute that they're totally aware that it'll get people talking knowing full well they never intend to pay it off. It comes across as very smug and, in a weird way, insecure, as though a layer of obscurity will enrich their writing. It's their one failing, I think they're absolutely brilliant writers otherwise. It's like a surface level approximation of something David Lynch would do, only with Lynch everything is explicably part of the whole.

Other examples include of course the stigmata and the dummy at the window.

Interesting. I'd love to think there actually was some long game being played but it seems unlikely, I agree.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 02, 2022, 01:35:15 AM
Quote from: Magnum Valentino on June 01, 2022, 09:25:53 AMI generally believe that with decent art in any medium there's no such thing as background details that aren't intended to mean very much and that usually, if it's in the frame or said aloud it's there for a reason whether the creator's realised it or not. When you have to pick the way things look and sound (as opposed to not being able to help the sound of a car driving past or that there's a blue sky in your shot of a field), you're making conscious choices. For art as carefully written as Alan Partridge, there's no room for things that don't mean anything, and the Gibbons (who are now directing as well) clearly know this because of how deftly they script the minutiae of neurosis.

I think it's fair to say they actually HAVE attempted something approaching a grand overarching metanarrative on the grounds that the first Partridge book literally attempts to tie everything (apart from Alan's unnamed Day Today wife coming back from the dead) together. The Gibbons' work has really succeeded at making all Alan matter. It all happened, and this is why he's like this now.

If I'm being honest (even though the hate the way it sounds), I sometimes think they're trolling. After a few years they decided to give Simon a surname, and shortly thereafter they gave Alan's house the same name. They have done this on purpose and we don't know why, and from the evidence alone it's apparent they don't know why either. That's the best way I can manage to describe my issue with it. Denton Abbey, the stigmata - it's just 'cool stuff' but it's distracting because, for me (and my wife and brother too), it did leave us going 'why have the creators done that?' (rather than 'why have the characters done that'?). Maybe it's that it brings the creation of the art into focus, I don't know. Like I say it's hard to articulate and I don't mind other people not being bothered by it. I wish I wasn't!

It doesn't affect my enjoyment of it, though, I'm not laughing any less hard because I've had to stop and scowl at the imagined writing session behaviour of three blokes in England.

I'm just sad your brother's been dragged into this too.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 02, 2022, 01:36:24 AM
Quote from: Dave The Triffids on June 01, 2022, 09:37:17 AMIn some of the shots of Alan's house during "This Time with.." there is a human dummy/effigy looking out of one of the windows.  There's no context to it and it's never referred to.

Isn't there an odd badge he's wearing in S2 as well? Which is never referred to so makes no sense. I assume there's already been about 6 threads discussing this....
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 02, 2022, 01:37:42 AM
Quote from: Huxleys Babkins on June 01, 2022, 09:47:38 AMI liked to imagine that it was originally the name of the house and it absolutely did Alan's head in because of Simon, but he never got around to getting the plaque removed.

I mostly imagine that because my house has a name plaque, it does my head in, but two and a half years in, I still haven't taken it down.

Is your house called Kankurette Manor or something?
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 02, 2022, 01:38:35 AM
Quote from: TommyTurnips on June 01, 2022, 12:08:08 PMAbsolutely. I just don't like giving money to Amazon or Amazon affiliated companies. So when I saw that it is an "audible exclusive" my heart sank.

Fair enough. I was being a bit pompous. Sorry.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 02, 2022, 01:40:06 AM
Quote from: Dickie_Anders on June 01, 2022, 05:50:34 PMThe radio KMKY is still really funny and among the best AP, in my opinion.

Yeah I listened to the radio KMKY recently - expecting it to be a bit basic - but it still holds up well. That has some weird moments too though, like the two rent boys.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 02, 2022, 01:42:12 AM
Quote from: Martin Van Buren Stan on June 01, 2022, 06:00:14 PMI just never got into it at all, not sure why. It just seems cartoonist and underdeveloped to me. I'll give it another go though.

I mean, the Alan in that is a completely different character to the Alan of FTOH. But it still works ok as a radio comedy. There's also a 'fly on the wall' mockumentary as part of that season which is well worth hearing. And clearly a template for IAP. I think it's on YouTube somewhere.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 02, 2022, 01:43:07 AM
Quote from: solidified gruel merchant on June 01, 2022, 11:30:34 PMCould it be the dummy he gets out of the loft to practice CPR on?
Left at the window as a crude burglar deterrent?

Could be. I thought there was another shot where there was an actual person in the window. But I've probably got confused
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: McDead on June 02, 2022, 01:49:36 AM
Quote from: Menu on June 02, 2022, 01:36:24 AMIsn't there an odd badge he's wearing in S2 as well? Which is never referred to so makes no sense. I assume there's already been about 6 threads discussing this....

Yes, a tooth badge. He wears it in series one, also. I seem to remember an in character interview with Partridge in the Radio Times around the launch of TTWAP where he alluded mysteriously to this badge and the association it implied. Think there was an "all will be revealed" bit in that interview, but I don't think anything was.

Additionally in Oast House, he talks a lot about gums, teeth, Corsodyl and the fresh taste of Corsodyl, so I wonder if it's something to do with that. A secret league of the dentally hygienic, perhaps
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 02, 2022, 01:59:43 AM
Quote from: McDead on June 02, 2022, 01:49:36 AMYes, a tooth badge. He wears it in series one, also. I seem to remember an in character interview with Partridge in the Radio Times around the launch of TTWAP where he alluded mysteriously to this badge and the association it implied. Think there was an "all will be revealed" bit in that interview, but I don't think anything was.

Additionally in Oast House, he talks a lot about gums, teeth, Corsodyl and the fresh taste of Corsodyl, so I wonder if it's something to do with that. A secret league of the dentally hygienic, perhaps

Magnum's theory is boosted by this, I have to say. Alternatively they probably script/shoot loads more stuff than the final edit can accommodate so maybe there are explanations that we just never see. I'd rather have this sort of weird stuff in it than not.

Hadn't noticed the teeth references under the Gibbonseses, but have noticed the many many references to crisps. References to crisps are everywhere.

Also, I'm sorry to say, 'trumping'.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: McDead on June 02, 2022, 02:35:56 AM
Quote from: Menu on June 02, 2022, 01:59:43 AMMagnum's theory is boosted by this, I have to say. Alternatively they probably script/shoot loads more stuff than the final edit can accommodate so maybe there are explanations that we just never see. I'd rather have this sort of weird stuff in it than not.



There's always been something uncanny about Alan and his world. It's realistic enough and makes a degree of logical sense on its own terms, but it's also somewhat heightened and superreal. Alan himself looks like a man in a mask at times, particularly when Coogan was younger. Anyway, I suppose what I'm getting at is I also like these surreal diversions the Partridge canon has taken. It would have been easy and pleasing to end MMM with a triumphant "A-Ha!" but how much more ambiguous and unsettling to end with an eerie prog rock number and some quasi-religious imagery
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 02, 2022, 02:44:56 AM
Agreed. And the whole lead-up to that finish is genuinely unnerving. It's the one with the hooded figure isn't it? They pull that off really well. Alan is even more nasty than usual, and it really feels like it's heading into a dark place.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: McDead on June 02, 2022, 02:51:33 AM
Quote from: Menu on June 02, 2022, 02:44:56 AMAgreed. And the whole lead-up to that finish is genuinely unnerving. It's the one with the hooded figure isn't it? They pull that off really well. Alan is even more nasty than usual, and it really feels like it's heading into a dark place.

That's the one, yeah. Partridge in purgatory, essentially.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 02, 2022, 02:59:40 AM
Quote from: McDead on June 02, 2022, 02:51:33 AMThat's the one, yeah. Partridge in purgatory, essentially.

They should go down that route more often. Nomad has moments like that too. I was saying to a friend the other day actually, Nomad is a very very strange book. It's not even really Alan for large parts of it. If you played that audiobook to a KMKY fan in 1992 they'd probably spit at you wouldn't recognise him as the same character.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: ramsobot on June 02, 2022, 03:22:35 AM
Quote from: McDead on June 02, 2022, 01:49:36 AMYes, a tooth badge. He wears it in series one, also. I seem to remember an in character interview with Partridge in the Radio Times around the launch of TTWAP where he alluded mysteriously to this badge and the association it implied. Think there was an "all will be revealed" bit in that interview, but I don't think anything was.

Additionally in Oast House, he talks a lot about gums, teeth, Corsodyl and the fresh taste of Corsodyl, so I wonder if it's something to do with that. A secret league of the dentally hygienic, perhaps

It might be worth pointing out that there could be a connection between the teeth and the repeated Dentons, with the Latin "dent" prefix meaning "tooth."

(I have also considered that it might not be worth pointing that out.)
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 02, 2022, 03:27:44 AM
Quote from: ramsobot on June 02, 2022, 03:22:35 AMIt might be worth pointing out that there could be a connection between the teeth and the repeated Dentons, with the Latin "dent" prefix meaning "tooth."

(I have also considered that it might not be worth pointing that out.)

Also C(h)ris(p) Feather.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Dave The Triffids on June 02, 2022, 08:30:17 AM
Quote from: McDead on June 02, 2022, 01:49:36 AMYes, a tooth badge. He wears it in series one, also. I seem to remember an in character interview with Partridge in the Radio Times around the launch of TTWAP where he alluded mysteriously to this badge and the association it implied. Think there was an "all will be revealed" bit in that interview, but I don't think anything was.

What's also curious about this is that in one of the later This Time episodes, the Geordie/Mackem bloke who Alan briefly interviews is also wearing a tooth badge.  When Alan asks where he got it, the bloke says (something like) "..from my mate, Michael".

Of all the names they could have chosen, surely it's no coincidence they went for Michael?
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Magnum Valentino on June 02, 2022, 08:53:45 AM
Yeah, that bloke also makes reference to Sunderland where we know Michael's brother lives.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 02, 2022, 09:26:06 PM
Quote from: Dave The Triffids on June 02, 2022, 08:30:17 AMWhat's also curious about this is that in one of the later This Time episodes, the Geordie/Mackem bloke who Alan briefly interviews is also wearing a tooth badge.  When Alan asks where he got it, the bloke says (something like) "..from my mate, Michael".

Of all the names they could have chosen, surely it's no coincidence they went for Michael?

Oooooh!
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 02, 2022, 09:29:28 PM
One of the best things about IAP commentaries is that the bloke who plays Michael is REALLY posh.

And whoever said up thread that the 'in-character' IAP1 commentary is bad is correct. It's abysmal. Felicity Montagu can't improvised and they've obviously barely prepared anything. Coogan sounds pissed off. Their act is really poor.

And the KMKY ones are just as bad.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: TommyTurnips on June 03, 2022, 02:46:47 PM
I tried to watch that in-character commentary of I'm Alan Partridge years ago but switched off when the characters started talking about the programme as if it was a fly on the wall documentary, when it quite clearly is a regular sitcom that doesn't break the fourth wall.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: kalowski on June 03, 2022, 04:47:48 PM
Very excited about this. Been working through series 1 it with the kids and we've been falling about. I think I'm the person mentioned above who wrote about
Alan running. Coogan is absolutely fantastic at that, especially when he jumps the wall. It's basically an out of breath man talking, but it's hilarious.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: markburgle on June 03, 2022, 05:00:42 PM
Quote from: TommyTurnips on June 03, 2022, 02:46:47 PMI tried to watch that in-character commentary of I'm Alan Partridge years ago but switched off when the characters started talking about the programme as if it was a fly on the wall documentary, when it quite clearly is a regular sitcom that doesn't break the fourth wall.

They refer to it as a docu-drama reennactment, with the two of them as themselves and everyone else played by actors. I like it, it's obviously not stellar and doesn't fully make sense but it's 3 hours of low-stakes Alan and I'm happy it exists
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: willbo on June 03, 2022, 06:24:48 PM
I remember getting the DVD and being so shocked that an in-character commentary track existed that it never occurred to me to judge it as good or bad quality.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 04, 2022, 02:48:41 AM
Quote from: kalowski on June 03, 2022, 04:47:48 PMVery excited about this. Been working through series 1 it with the kids and we've been falling about. I think I'm the person mentioned above who wrote about
Alan running. Coogan is absolutely fantastic at that, especially when he jumps the wall. It's basically an out of breath man talking, but it's hilarious.

I love it. There's a bit where he just sort of wheezes instead of speaking which is sublime - you probably know the bit I mean. I think that 2 minutes is one of my favourite Partridge scenes.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 04, 2022, 02:56:22 AM
Quote from: markburgle on June 03, 2022, 05:00:42 PMThey refer to it as a docu-drama reennactment, with the two of them as themselves and everyone else played by actors. I like it, it's obviously not stellar and doesn't fully make sense but it's 3 hours of low-stakes Alan and I'm happy it exists

Yes I'm happy it exists too - which is coincidentally how someone described TTWAP to me - but it's still surprisingly poor. Just like TTWAP.

I think the mistake that's made - apart from lack of preparation - is, as you say, the decision to conceptualise IAP1 as the BBC re-enacting real events but having the other protagonists(apart from Alan and Lynn) being played by actors. I mean, where do you even start with that? Just say it was a fly on the wall documentary! That makes far more sense and it would allow Alan to slag off everyone else, complain about the camera crew, comically deny things happened even though we can all see them happening in front of our eyes, etc etc. It's like they deliberately sabotage themselves and then have to spend three hours trying to get out of it. Very odd.

But, er, yes, I do sometimes put it on every now and then. I just love having Alan talk to me.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 04, 2022, 02:58:03 AM
Quote from: willbo on June 03, 2022, 06:24:48 PMI remember getting the DVD and being so shocked that an in-character commentary track existed that it never occurred to me to judge it as good or bad quality.

It actually starts quite well but quickly descends into Lynn commenting on people's ties, while Alan makes grunting noises. Which admittedly does sound quite funny.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Crenners on June 04, 2022, 03:45:46 AM
Quote from: Martin Van Buren Stan on May 31, 2022, 05:37:25 PMYeah, the recent stuff makes early partridge look embarrassing really. The Day Today was good as was IAP1 but everything else from that period seems cringe in comparison.

The word 'cringe' as an adjective is already cringe, but go off, cring.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: QDRPHNC on June 04, 2022, 01:52:53 PM
I laughed very loud last night, after he chins himself in the spa and tries to say "podcast" with a broken mouth.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: McDead on June 04, 2022, 04:58:10 PM
Quote from: QDRPHNC on June 04, 2022, 01:52:53 PMI laughed very loud last night, after he chins himself in the spa and tries to say "podcast" with a broken mouth.

That's a great bit. The sound effect of him chinning himself on the sink sounds like two billiard balls smacking into each other and it never fails to make me wince.

Quote from: Menu on June 04, 2022, 02:48:41 AMI love it. There's a bit where he just sort of wheezes instead of speaking which is sublime - you probably know the bit I mean. I think that 2 minutes is one of my favourite Partridge scenes.

"Sponsored by MilLeTtS"
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Ferris on June 04, 2022, 05:14:20 PM
Laughed at this:

Quote"I'm just waiting to hear from Audible as they've yet to say they definitely want a second series. I'm not worried. It's just that they said they'd call and thus far they haven't. It's fine. They've not not called. They've just not called."

Excited for new Oasthouse because it's really top-tier partridge.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Misspent Boners on June 05, 2022, 12:18:19 AM
Immensely enjoyed the first series but I do so wish there was a version available where the theme tune was cut out...its an amusing piece of music , but as my preferred method of listening is lying in bed lulling in and out of sleep it gets immensely grating and just a little too intense haha
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 06, 2022, 02:06:23 AM
Quote from: Misspent Boners on June 05, 2022, 12:18:19 AMImmensely enjoyed the first series but I do so wish there was a version available where the theme tune was cut out...its an amusing piece of music , but as my preferred method of listening is lying in bed lulling in and out of sleep it gets immensely grating and just a little too intense haha

Ha ha! Me too. I have the same problem with The Great Courses. STOP PLAYING SHIT CLASSICAL MUSIC AND FAKE APPLAUSE EVERY HALF AN HOUR.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 06, 2022, 02:07:05 AM
Quote from: Misspent Boners on June 05, 2022, 12:18:19 AMImmensely enjoyed the first series but I do so wish there was a version available where the theme tune was cut out...its an amusing piece of music , but as my preferred method of listening is lying in bed lulling in and out of sleep it gets immensely grating and just a little too intense haha

There's a similar problem with the BRIAN BRIAN BRIAN BRIAN BRIAN BRIAN BRIAN bit in Nomad.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: QDRPHNC on June 06, 2022, 02:35:04 AM
Yes! I hate the Brian bit for that exact reason.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 06, 2022, 03:10:08 AM
I'm sure there's a similar bit in IP...WNTTAA but I can't think of it.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 06, 2022, 03:11:38 AM
YOU'RE HIGH NOON YOU'RE HIGH NOON YOU'RE HIGH NOON YOU'RE HIGH NOON has also been known to impinge upon slumber in Menu Towers.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 06, 2022, 03:12:25 AM
Quote from: Menu on June 06, 2022, 03:11:38 AMYOU'RE HIGH NOON YOU'RE HIGH NOON YOU'RE HIGH NOON YOU'RE HIGH NOON has also been known to impinge upon slumber in Menu Towers.

What a strange sentence.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Mobius on June 06, 2022, 11:05:21 AM
I'm watching Partridge on Comic Relief 1999 and he says he's marrying a Canadian woman in a few weeks. I guess that isn't canon
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: buttgammon on June 06, 2022, 11:23:29 AM
Quote from: Menu on June 06, 2022, 02:07:05 AMThere's a similar problem with the BRIAN BRIAN BRIAN BRIAN BRIAN BRIAN BRIAN bit in Nomad.

This has scared the hell out of me while I'm half-asleep on several occasions!
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Ferris on June 06, 2022, 02:15:56 PM
Quote from: Mobius on June 06, 2022, 11:05:21 AMI'm watching Partridge on Comic Relief 1999 and he says he's marrying a Canadian woman in a few weeks. I guess that isn't canon

Seem to remember this was addressed at some point? Basically "it didn't work out" and that was it.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: QDRPHNC on June 06, 2022, 02:25:32 PM
Maybe I'll do an abridged sleep edit. I've been meaning to do something similar with MMM for ages, make it audio only for bedtime listening.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on June 06, 2022, 02:45:38 PM
Quote from: buttgammon on June 06, 2022, 11:23:29 AMThis has scared the hell out of me while I'm half-asleep on several occasions!

Same.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Captain Z on June 06, 2022, 03:13:21 PM
+1

Drifting off topic, but Partridge-adjecent, I have a similar problem with Tim Key's Late Night Poetry. The poems are perfect for drifting off to sleep, but the musical interludes jarr me right back out of it.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: notjosh on June 06, 2022, 03:28:41 PM
Here's hoping series 2 of From the Oasthouse will just be 4 hours of lovely white noise.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: holyzombiejesus on June 06, 2022, 03:40:15 PM
Quote from: Menu on June 02, 2022, 01:36:24 AMIsn't there an odd badge he's wearing in S2 as well? Which is never referred to so makes no sense. I assume there's already been about 6 threads discussing this....

QuoteSpeaking to The Guardian ahead of This Time's first series, he revealed that the badge represents 'a shadowy showbiz organisation' that he explained 'looks after' its members while doing philanthropic works – comparing it to the Freemasons.

Coogan went on to explain that it may never actually be mentioned on the show, but 'has been worked out and is authentic to the character'.

So, now you know.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: DJ Bob Hoskins on June 06, 2022, 09:47:29 PM
Quote from: QDRPHNC on June 06, 2022, 02:25:32 PMMaybe I'll do an abridged sleep edit. I've been meaning to do something similar with MMM for ages, make it audio only for bedtime listening.

Same here, been pondering an audio rip for ages. The  majority of the material works perfectly well without video.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 07, 2022, 01:23:11 AM
Quote from: buttgammon on June 06, 2022, 11:23:29 AMThis has scared the hell out of me while I'm half-asleep on several occasions!

Me too! It really cuts through.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 07, 2022, 01:29:51 AM
Quote from: Mobius on June 06, 2022, 11:05:21 AMI'm watching Partridge on Comic Relief 1999 and he says he's marrying a Canadian woman in a few weeks. I guess that isn't canon

Oooh glad you brought this up because that segment throws up a couple of weird things. I'm not sure what happened to the Canadian in canonical terms but I think, from a writing standpoint, Canada was changed to Ukraine, and she became Sonja. Not sure why Canada was ever chosen in the first place but obviously human trafficking is a much funnier subject.

The other interesting thing that I can think of now (I'm sure there's something else too) is that Carol's birth year is revealed to be 1943. This would make her 79 now. I have brought this up before on here but I think people were resentful of my knowledge had fallen asleep so I never got a discussion going. It's odd because he states he is 43 in IAP1(1997) and we have no reason to doubt that. Carol would have been 56 at that point if we abide by the 1999 segment. And I think this is prior to the assertion that they met at Uni so IP...WNTTAA does throw the 1999 Comic Relief segment under the bus. And even if the 43 is right, it means he's 68 now. Coogan isn't really playing him as a 68 year old. Possibly 61(like Ricky Gervais) but 68 is a stretch.

Erm......is anyone else still awake?

Should also say that the segment as a whole is one of the great Partridge things. Including Bryan Ferry's acting which is amusingly naturalistic. It's on YouTube.

Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 07, 2022, 01:31:29 AM
Quote from: QDRPHNC on June 06, 2022, 02:25:32 PMMaybe I'll do an abridged sleep edit. I've been meaning to do something similar with MMM for ages, make it audio only for bedtime listening.

Would love to hear that if you ever do it. I've tried to listen to MMM as I fall asleep but the episodes keep coming to an end ffs.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 07, 2022, 01:32:58 AM
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Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Glebe on June 07, 2022, 03:24:46 AM
In the early '90s Carol died and came back to life along with other members of the living dead but this was never subsequently mentioned. What a swizz!
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 07, 2022, 03:58:34 AM
Re HZJ's post: I've got a feeling there's an allusion to the masons in some other modern Partridge thing? Possibly FTOH. I can't think though...
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 09, 2022, 12:26:35 AM
This awkward silence is what happens every time I bring up the fact that Carol was born in 1943. Why are you all so jealous of my deep knowledge of Alan Partridge?
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: jamiefairlie on June 09, 2022, 12:34:07 AM
Quote from: Glebe on June 07, 2022, 03:24:46 AMIn the early '90s Carol died and came back to life along with other members of the living dead but this was never subsequently mentioned. What a swizz!

Is it not referred to in "I Partridge"? That Chris had slipped him some LSD or something?
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 09, 2022, 12:36:17 AM
Quote from: jamiefairlie on June 09, 2022, 12:34:07 AMIs it not referred to in "I Partridge"? That Chris had slipped him some LSD or something?

Yes. It's definitely covered somewhere anyway.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 09, 2022, 12:38:04 AM
Quote from: jamiefairlie on June 09, 2022, 12:34:07 AMIs it not referred to in "I Partridge"? That Chris had slipped him some LSD or something?

Hey, Jamie! What do you think of all this 'Carol being born in 1943' stuff? Pretty amazing isn't it? Your mind must be pretty blown right now?

You buzzing?
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Mobius on June 09, 2022, 12:49:51 AM
Quote from: Menu on June 09, 2022, 12:26:35 AMThis awkward silence

It's their silence, don't fill it. (forgot rest of quote)
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: peteprodge on June 09, 2022, 11:42:21 AM
Hi guys, great thread.

Just wondering if anyone knows what year Alan Partridge's wife, Carol, was born in.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Captain Z on June 09, 2022, 11:43:36 AM
The first time or the second?
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: QDRPHNC on June 09, 2022, 11:47:02 AM
Doesn't surprise me that Carol is older, given that when they met Alan was a virgin and she'd been hymen-free for the best part of six years.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: buttgammon on June 09, 2022, 12:23:42 PM
I can't remember exactly how this happened but I figured out during the live show that there are some inconsistencies with Alan's own age and date of birth; I had it down as 1955 but it was a different year in the live show for some reason.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Ferris on June 09, 2022, 12:51:56 PM
Quote from: peteprodge on June 09, 2022, 11:42:21 AMHi guys, great thread.

Just wondering if anyone knows what year Alan Partridge's wife, Carol, was born in.

Early to mid 1940s? Pretty sure it's never confirmed as a specific year.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: McDead on June 09, 2022, 03:31:14 PM
We never find out when Carol (Alan's wife) was born, and I've always wondered about that.

I have another question: is Alan bald/severely balding? He tells an anecdote in Nomad about a child pulling his hair to prove he's not bald but also he does keep his head above water when he swims (sometimes) and in the behind the scenes doc for KMKYWAP (radio) he bellows "IT'S A WEAVE" down the phone to some press person. He also attends a hair clinic per This Time. So what's up with that? What's the deal with that?
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: QDRPHNC on June 09, 2022, 03:32:24 PM
He moulted in Oasthouse. About the size of a fifty pence piece. Put it on a saucer.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: mtpromises on June 09, 2022, 03:43:35 PM
Quote from: Magnum Valentino on June 02, 2022, 08:53:45 AMYeah, that bloke also makes reference to Sunderland where we know Michael's brother lives.
Someone on Reddit did a fantastic breakdown on why Ted is Michael's brother.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AlanPartridge/comments/hzcirh/theory_michaels_brother_ted/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: McDead on June 09, 2022, 03:47:20 PM
Quote from: mtpromises on June 09, 2022, 03:43:35 PMSomeone on Reddit did a fantastic breakdown on why Ted is Michael's brother.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AlanPartridge/comments/hzcirh/theory_michaels_brother_ted/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

I enjoyed that man's exhortations that we should "ease back and laugh". He's right!
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Mobius on June 09, 2022, 09:48:50 PM
Some of the stuff Partridge says in episode 10 of Oasthouse, where he's building a time capsule and rooting around his attic, talking about his grandkids, are genuinely quite sad and make you feel sorry for him :(
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 09, 2022, 10:48:12 PM
Quote from: Ferris on June 09, 2022, 12:51:56 PMEarly to mid 1940s? Pretty sure it's never confirmed as a specific year.

I think it reflects pretty badly on both of you that you refuse to take this seriously.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 09, 2022, 10:52:26 PM
Quote from: McDead on June 09, 2022, 03:31:14 PMWe never find out when Carol (Alan's wife) was born, and I've always wondered about that.
 

McDead, how could you?!
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: McDead on June 09, 2022, 11:41:00 PM
Quote from: Menu on June 09, 2022, 10:52:26 PMMcDead, how could you?!

Menu, I'm sorry mate. The cock crowed thrice and I denied you :(
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Twonty Gostelow on June 10, 2022, 01:38:57 AM
For those people asking about when Carol was born, it was 1943.  You're welcome.

+7/-0 karm for this message
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Glebe on June 10, 2022, 01:44:27 AM
Quote from: jamiefairlie on June 09, 2022, 12:34:07 AMIs it not referred to in "I Partridge"? That Chris had slipped him some LSD or something?

Quote from: Menu on June 09, 2022, 12:36:17 AMYes. It's definitely covered somewhere anyway.

Ah right. This vaguely rings a bell.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: QDRPHNC on June 10, 2022, 01:46:17 AM
Quote from: Twonty Gostelow on June 10, 2022, 01:38:57 AMFor those people asking about when Carol was born, it was 1943.  You're welcome.

Thanks! Glad to have this finally cleared up.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Angst in my Pants on June 10, 2022, 09:57:52 AM
Quote from: Menu on June 09, 2022, 12:26:35 AMThis awkward silence is what happens every time I bring up the fact that Carol was born in 1942. Why are you all so jealous of my deep knowledge of Alan Partridge?
Sorry to be pedantic, but I think you'll find it was 1943.

Spoiler alert
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Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on June 10, 2022, 10:01:34 AM
Quote from: jamiefairlie on June 09, 2022, 12:34:07 AMIs it not referred to in "I Partridge"? That Chris had slipped him some LSD or something?

Oh do you have a quote? I've listened to I,P *dozens* of times and don't recall it.  Tells you something about the value of audiobooks as a format, or my attention span.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Captain Z on June 10, 2022, 10:10:00 AM
I'm pretty sure it's not in any of the audio books. Unless it's from an obscure interview or commentary, I think it's more likely just a theory that was posted by a member here.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 10, 2022, 10:10:55 AM
Quote from: Mobius on June 09, 2022, 09:48:50 PMSome of the stuff Partridge says in episode 10 of Oasthouse, where he's building a time capsule and rooting around his attic, talking about his grandkids, are genuinely quite sad and make you feel sorry for him :(

Yeah, I properly welled up at the end when they turn up at his house. Partly because you can hear in his voice how much it meant to him, partly because you know he'll inevitably fuck it up somehow.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: McDead on June 10, 2022, 01:31:13 PM
Quote from: Huxleys Babkins on June 10, 2022, 10:10:55 AMYeah, I properly welled up at the end when they turn up at his house. Partly because you can hear in his voice how much it meant to him, partly because you know he'll inevitably fuck it up somehow.

When you hear little Jack shout "A-Ha!" up at his trapped grandad, I mist up a little, I don't mind saying.

Another weird thing in the Gibbons era - Kennedy assassination naming. Alan's grandkids are called Jack and Ruby, the shifty impresario in Nomad is called Harvey Kennedy. That's all, I think, but it's another weird thing.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: QDRPHNC on June 10, 2022, 01:38:59 PM
I love how Alan immediately gets irritated by Jack not listening.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: notjosh on June 10, 2022, 01:41:54 PM
Been relistening to Oasthouse the last few nights and thought I'd break it up last night with Knowing Knowing Me, Knowing You (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukH6M00QKMg) to see how jarring it would feel to be listening to 90s Alan.

Surprisingly, not at all. Bearing in mind that the only Alan we've encountered before that is On the Hour and radio KMKY where the character is much broader, it's astonishing how quickly they establish an off-air persona for Alan that has basically persisted to this day. I'm not sure how much the Gibbons were influenced by it, but the relationship he has with his writer feels very Sidekick Simon and the little glimpses we have of his home life definitely have the vibe of Oasthouse.

If anything, I think I'm Alan Partridge (both series) is starting to look like the outlier in the canon. I might be overly influenced by the weird prematurely aged make-up, but I can't draw a line from that Alan to current Alan as easily as I can from KMKY.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Ferris on June 10, 2022, 01:42:12 PM
Quote from: Twonty Gostelow on June 10, 2022, 01:38:57 AMFor those people asking about when Carol was born, it was 1943.  You're welcome.

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Oh interesting! I didn't know that, pleased it's been posted in here for the record.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Ferris on June 10, 2022, 01:43:40 PM
Quote from: QDRPHNC on June 10, 2022, 01:38:59 PMI love how Alan immediately gets irritated by Jack not listening.

I hear Alan whenever I tell my son he needs to listen so that I can help him.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: QDRPHNC on June 10, 2022, 01:49:24 PM
Quote from: notjosh on June 10, 2022, 01:41:54 PMIf anything, I think I'm Alan Partridge (both series) is starting to look like the outlier in the canon. I might be overly influenced by the weird prematurely aged make-up, but I can't draw a line from that Alan to current Alan as easily as I can from KMKY.

In terms of presentation, certainly. But the AP of IAP1 is definitely the Alan we have now, to my mind at least. The IAP2 version, not so much.

I think that's part of why I struggled with This Time, too often it seemed to veer into that "anything for a laugh" absurdity of IAP2.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 14, 2022, 01:47:20 AM
Quote from: Ferris on June 10, 2022, 01:42:12 PMOh interesting! I didn't know that, pleased it's been posted in here for the record.

YOU GUYS!!
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Menu on June 14, 2022, 01:48:18 AM
Quote from: Ferris on June 10, 2022, 01:43:40 PMI hear Alan whenever I tell my son he needs to listen so that I can help him.

I hear Alan whenever I interact with anyone at any moment. It's fucking crippling.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Mobius on June 14, 2022, 12:20:10 PM
I'm just watching Anglian Lives and Alan says he collects celebrity memorabilia and even pulls out a dashboard of some yank celeb's car

This hobby/collection is never mentioned in either of the books or any other Partridge related stuff.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: McDead on June 14, 2022, 03:26:48 PM
Quote from: Mobius on June 14, 2022, 12:20:10 PMI'm just watching Anglian Lives and Alan says he collects celebrity memorabilia and even pulls out a dashboard of some yank celeb's car

This hobby/collection is never mentioned in either of the books or any other Partridge related stuff.

It's the dashboard from a jaguar XJ6, as driven by Edward Woodward in The Equalizer.

I think we can assume that this quirk - like his addiction to Toblerone, driving to Dundee etc - is a symptom of his then troubled mental state, and didn't persist beyond that phase. He hardly ever refers to his book "Bouncing Back" these days either.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Ferris on June 14, 2022, 03:44:43 PM
See also: acquiring the rights to K-9.

(Ironically probably a very lucrative move given the Doctor Who reboot was only a few years later.)
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Voltan (Man of Steel) on June 17, 2022, 04:30:44 PM
I've only just found these and think they're fantastic. I love how Alan has to "pretend" to be subservient to his dog, acknowledging him as the alpha male of the household. The panic when he realises he's forgotten to put on Seldom's pan of sixteen eggs ("he likes them hard boiled with plenty of salt").
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on June 17, 2022, 04:33:41 PM
Love seldom. Genui almost cried when he died.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: badaids on June 18, 2022, 04:02:05 PM

Just done a relisten to these on YouTube. They are fantastic - his command on Alan's voice on stuff like when he says 'from the *oasthouse*' is incredible.

However, I find myself riled by Alan's relative success. I was genuinely and gravely annoyed when Alan finally got to meet his grandkids. From both a narrative and comedic aspect.

It would have been both far funnier and more Alan if he had forced himself to pretend the kids were his grandkids. There would have been far more potential there.

But I'm a miserable sod and do find it hard to accept that Alan can have any real happiness in his life, outside his petty victories.
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Lost Oliver on June 18, 2022, 04:15:07 PM
how easy is it to download to sign up, use a token to buy it, and then download it from audible and convert the fucker so i can listen to it anywhere?
Title: Re: From The Oasthouse with Alan Partridge - Series 2
Post by: Ferris on June 18, 2022, 07:19:40 PM
Quote from: Lost Oliver on June 18, 2022, 04:15:07 PMhow easy is it to download to sign up, use a token to buy it, and then download it from audible and convert the fucker so i can listen to it anywhere?

Incredibly easy. It's the future.