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Starmer VIII: Labour will set you free

Started by pancreas, March 16, 2022, 08:54:56 AM

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KennyMonster

Quote from: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 30, 2022, 04:23:19 PMa recently scary thing about Starmer is that he's shown himself to be someone who is overly taken and flattered by people taking him to be an important man. obviously loves status, loves the thought of himself of PM. those following his career more closely than me probably not surprised by this in the least but its a bit shocking how open he is. blair and cameron at least moderated their obsession with image until they were elected. starmer seems to think he doesnt need to

I heard tale that on hearing of Ed Milliband's decision to step down as Labour Leader after losing the GE in 2015 Starmer asked if he should put himself forward to be leader.

He'd been an MP for only a few hours.

king_tubby


jobotic

Stonking. It's like being at school.

"When we told Sir Kier the news he got a big bonk on"

Buelligan

Quote from: KennyMonster on July 01, 2022, 09:25:15 AMI heard tale that on hearing of Ed Milliband's decision to step down as Labour Leader after losing the GE in 2015 Starmer asked if he should put himself forward to be leader.

He'd been an MP for only a few hours.

More than just the one disturbing thing about that.

Blinder Data

Quote from: KennyMonster on July 01, 2022, 09:25:15 AMI heard tale that on hearing of Ed Milliband's decision to step down as Labour Leader after losing the GE in 2015 Starmer asked if he should put himself forward to be leader.

He'd been an MP for only a few hours.

There was some clamour for him to stand for leader in 2015 but I suspect that most of that was not self-generated - see article at the time: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/15/labour-activists-urge-keir-starmer-to-stand-for-party-leadership

Quote

I think the Starmer Project version of it was that some private equity firm donor, Polly Toynbee and a handful of centrist MP types tried to get a #Kiethforleader campaign going after Miliband left but he declined, saying he wasn't experienced enough. But obviously he had his eyes on the prize from day one.

Sebastian Cobb

QuoteThe fact candidates are being barred from standing for the Labour Party for praising one of my articles underlines, again, that this is an authoritarian cult.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/01/starmer-allies-reject-claims-leftwingers-blocked-from-standing-for-labour


https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1542812412696485888

JohnnyCouncil

"THE TORIES ARE IN TROUBLE TODAY! QUICK KEITH, SAY SUMMAT TO GET THEM OFF THE NEWS "



jobotic

From that Guardian article

QuoteThey pointed to the longlisting of avowedly leftwing commentator Paul Mason for Stretford and Urmston, in Greater Manchester, as proof that candidates from that wing of the party were not all being vetoed.

Fuck me.


Mr_Simnock

"Sir Keith Skinner please could we finally talk about a Labour policy, any of them, please"

Quote from: idunnosomename on July 01, 2022, 12:14:05 PM

"Look over there! a lion!"


Buelligan

Quote from: jobotic on July 01, 2022, 01:10:18 PMFrom that Guardian article
QuoteThey pointed to the longlisting of avowedly leftwing commentator Paul Mason for Stretford and Urmston, in Greater Manchester, as proof that candidates from that wing of the party were not all being vetoed.
Fuck me.

And me.


And then you remember The Guardian's more or less run by spooks these days.

shoulders

Quote from: jobotic on July 01, 2022, 01:10:18 PMFrom that Guardian article

Fuck me.

Even if we grant them that, that's 1 longlisting.

Buelligan

Why would anyone accept Mason as being on the Left though?  Did you see this?


Or read this?

https://thegrayzone.com/2022/06/07/paul-masons-covert-intelligence-grayzone/

Psybro

Ruling out any form of formal grouping with the SNP surely means that in a hung parliament the Tory Prime Minister of the day would never have to resign as Starmer couldn't prove he could command the confidence of the house?

I've long feared a situation where Labour opts to leave a Tory minority government in charge for 'one last push' in a further election when the Budget gets voted down, the electorate correctly sees them as stupid cowardly cunts and calls their bluff.

shoulders

The latest Corbyn interview where he said his first announcement as PM was going to be ending rough sleeping by the end of the week made me feel so great and yet so fucking awful all at once. Imagining the power of that gesture and alone what it would have achieved to shift public consciousness.

But now back to the failed early 10s Milibandine capitulating dreck. Fuck sake.

idunnosomename

Does Paul Mason not have a next of kin who can get power of attorney at this point

Sebastian Cobb

Just seen someone on twitter claim Cadwalladr is also a security-service stooge like Mason.

They did post a Jonathan Cook article from about a week ago to back it up though.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/watchdog-journalists-carol-cadwalladr-paul-mason-security-state/281146/

shoulders

Cadwalladr definitely is. Recent utterances have come across as someone bordering on being unwell to be honest, too.

Buelligan

The Mason stuff is exactly that. 

Went right off him when I heard that Sun (gah) recording of him chatting about Crobolski in a pub.  There's something absolutely wrong with his wiring.

king_tubby

Mason's doing the 92 Club but for Labour constituencies.

idunnosomename

im glad Cadwalladr didn't get rinsed by that odious cunt Banks but it's the fault of the centrist press for deep-throating her crazy fantasies about Russia causing Brexit that got her to that point. she's crazy in the coconut, but only by trying to explain things that doesn't involve criticising the British media for the quagmire of shit we're in

dissolute ocelot

Quote from: Psybro on July 01, 2022, 06:59:10 PMRuling out any form of formal grouping with the SNP surely means that in a hung parliament the Tory Prime Minister of the day would never have to resign as Starmer couldn't prove he could command the confidence of the house?

I've long feared a situation where Labour opts to leave a Tory minority government in charge for 'one last push' in a further election when the Budget gets voted down, the electorate correctly sees them as stupid cowardly cunts and calls their bluff.
The idea seems to be that the SNP will support Labour against Tories no matter how shit Labour are, but SNP policy is to prove Labour and the Tories are the same, and there's no real downside to voting against both Tory and Labour governments.

Plus Starmer will do anything to be  PM (anything not socialist). Especially with Lib Dem support.

Buelligan

And now this -

Quote from: Open Democracy on 1 July 2022Labour has lost its leadership of a council coalition in south-west England after a row over a 'parachuted in' parliamentary hopeful favoured by Keir Starmer saw three councillors quit the party.

Thursday's resignations included the council's Labour leader Doina Cornell, whose bar from the shortlist to be the party's parliamentary candidate at the next election triggered the backlash.

Deputy Labour group leader Trevor Hall and a backbencher then announced their resignations from the party at an emotional meeting of the Labour group last night, multiple sources told openDemocracy today.

The move wipes out Labour's status as the largest party in the ruling "rainbow coalition" and leaves the future of what is believed to be the longest standing cross-party alliance in the country uncertain. The Greens have now overtaken Labour as the largest party with 13 seats to 12.

Last night local Labour members delivered a further snub to party HQ, voting two-to-one to adopt a local GP, Simon Opher, as the town's parliamentary candidate, rejecting Salisbury-based former MEP Clare Moody, a lobbyist with the company Grayling seen as the leadership's preferred choice. Cornell had been seen as the local favourite and was expected to win the candidacy had she been allowed to run.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/stroud-labour-quit-starmer-doina-cornell-greens-coalition/

kittens

i know doina. been campaigning with her and have been to parties and things with her. im showing off i know the news person. she is really nice and the labour party sucks. loads of great people in that clp have now resigned. even my mum thinks the labour party has got bad and she used to love sir Keer starman