Boomer infestation II: revenge of the wealth-snatchers

[Ferris]

Corbyn probably sitting in a button-up shirt watching Phil Minton like a total twat.

New page is it really music.

[Kankurette]

Could have been worse, could have been Reading (is V still a thing?)

[David Pielingtonburygrot]

I hate the way that they were born between 1946 to 1964, really fucks me off

[Des Wigwam]

I can't get past the Please Subscribe for a Quid thing even with 12' Ladder but is this as awful as it looks or does it turn it around on the boomers who eagerly clicked on it for validation?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/i-could-make-a-few-extra-bob-but-i-just-cant-be-bothered-jt39sdnbx

tl;dr who here has a subscription to The Times?

[Ferris]

I cannot listen to any more stories about purchasing property or getting mysteriously terrible service at restaurants I have extensive positive experience of visiting.

Why must they acquire so much property? Why are they so invested in the continued political success of the EU?

Bizarre.

[Kankurette]

Boomers are the generation most rabid about Poppy Day, it seems. I generalise, of course.

[Sebastian Cobb]

I can't get past the Please Subscribe for a Quid thing even with 12' Ladder but is this as awful as it looks or does it turn it around on the boomers who eagerly clicked on it for validation?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/i-could-make-a-few-extra-bob-but-i-just-cant-be-bothered-jt39sdnbx

tl;dr who here has a subscription to The Times?

Archive.ph can get it.
https://archive.ph/UE0P0

[Mister Six]

Christ almighty, that reads like stream of consciousness dictation.

[Dex Sawash]

Pancreas mum is at Ferris' now?

[Ferris]

Pancreas mum is at Ferris' now?

Not for the first time if you know what i mean hurr hurr hurr.

...but also all boomers are materially exactly the same, and even the foul stench of Pancreas can't hide the fact that we are on the same side (of this one specific issue, at least).

Separately, I understand that nice mr starmer is a breath of fresh air, so there you go. Might even get a vote or two off the boomers in question (but don't count on it, comes down to local issues and property tax in the end really doesnt it, still he is worth considering I think)!!

[Ferris]

(The reason British boomers get terrible service is because British boomers - and Britishers in general, frankly - are dogshit tippers, so as a server: why waste your time with them? This may be news to people who have never really thought about it, I suppose. The story I was told today ended with the provision of a 0% tip "he didn't earn it", which is about as circular as reasoning gets in the waffle and eggs business.)

[Kankurette]

I can see why restaurants go 'fuck it' and whack on a service charge.

[Ferris]

Archive.ph can get it.
https://archive.ph/UE0P0

Hunter Davies bought his Dartmouth Park house for £5,000, and when people move into his road he likes to tell them to "watch their faces drop as they vomit on the floor".

Still, he's 87 so not long now.

[Janie Jones]

(The reason British boomers get terrible service is because British boomers - and Britishers in general, frankly - are dogshit tippers, so as a server: why waste your time with them? This may be news to people who have never really thought about it, I suppose. The story I was told today ended with the provision of a 0% tip "he didn't earn it", which is about as circular as reasoning gets in the waffle and eggs business.)

I put up with a lot of ageism and boomer-hate on this forum, some of it quite understandable and sometimes justified but I'm not fucking standing for this one! Boomers are good tippers! We were brought up tipping, we know how to tip. I find it's younger people who don't tip. I'd say without exception it's occasions when I'm out with millennials and Gen X that I've sneaked back embarrassed to leave a tip after they haven't. Some fucking 40-something weasel I went to dinner with recently even agreed how much of a tip we'd leave then paid last and instead of putting the agreed amount in the card machine, only paid the balance, so not only did the waiter get nothing, the weasel got a much-reduced bill!

[Endicott]

It's tories who don't tip. Or small minded progressives who think they understand 'business'.
'Don't give them too much you'll upset the market.'
'It's 10%, THAT'S THE RATE'.
Or 5%, as one ignoramus told me once when we were in Portugal.
Not an age related thing, at least in my experience.

Sorry your fam are tories now Fer.

[DelurkedToHelp]

Surely it's more Tory to subsidise business owners by tipping and thus allowing them to get away with paying shitty wages?

[bgmnts]

Sorry yeah I don't tip and I'm not a boomer.

I tip where I'm socially pressured to (i.e the U) but i go full Mr Pink on this one: an abhorrent practice*.

*in the sense of just having to tip because businesses can't be fucked to pay employees, if someone does a great job for you, a little something extra is a nice goodwill gesture.

[Mr_Simnock]

Corbyn probably sitting in a button-up shirt watching Phil Minton like a total twat.

the problem with phil minton is can his partner ever tell if he is faking it

[gilbertharding]

'It's 10%, THAT'S THE RATE'.

Am I correct in thinking that 10% would be considered stingy in America?

I (gen-x) tip waiters, approx 10% as a matter of course, but no-one else really. Not bar staff. And definitely not coffee bar staff.

[Endicott]

Surely it's more Tory to subsidise business owners by tipping and thus allowing them to get away with paying shitty wages?

Maybe I should have said small c conservatives, although I did deliberately use a small t. Although I'd add that surely Tory gov policies keep wages low and they don't have to extend that to their own behaviour in restaurants in order to achieve it. I do sort of find the idea that they would a bit absurd, still what do I know?

[Sebastian Cobb]

I (gen-x) tip waiters, approx 10% as a matter of course, but no-one else really. Not bar staff. And definitely not coffee bar staff.

I don't really eat big meals out much these days but will pop to a cafe for breakfast and since most things are card-first now I've found quite often the server has skipped over the gratuity screen and is waiting for me to tap and pay.

The places where this reliably doesn't seem to happen are the place I'm the least likely to tip ever: a live venue where all the person has done is retrieved an overpriced can of beer from a fridge and opened it.

I do wonder if they're skipping it because the management are pocketing it themselves, or maybe I look like a tight bastard.

[seepage]

opinion is divide whether you should still tip if a service charge is included, as the service charge goes to the restaurant but presumably the person who served you can pocket a cash tip.

as an aside, I wish I'd got in early making those wooden blocks with the QR code for the menu on, post covid

[jamiefairlie]

Sorry yeah I don't tip and I'm not a boomer.

I tip where I'm socially pressured to (i.e the U) but i go full Mr Pink on this one: an abhorrent practice*.

*in the sense of just having to tip because businesses can't be fucked to pay employees, if someone does a great job for you, a little something extra is a nice goodwill gesture.

See I've always bought into the argument that businesses should pay their staff a decent wage then tipping isn't needed.

Over here in North America though that idea is hated by the wait staff themselves because they don't declare their tips and so are making a small killing on their no-tax income. If their salary was increased with no tips they'd lose money as they'd have to pay taxes like all of us loser idiots with our pinko socialist ideals.

[DelurkedToHelp]

See I've always bought into the argument that businesses should pay their staff a decent wage then tipping isn't needed.

Over here in North America though that idea is hated by the wait staff themselves because they don't declare their tips and so are making a small killing on their no-tax income. If their salary was increased with no tips they'd lose money as they'd have to pay taxes like all of us loser idiots with our pinko socialist ideals.

No reason to feel guilty for not tipping them then.

[Sebastian Cobb]

Surely the advantage is they also don't have to work people for tips by being falsely pleasant and eager, because honestly that sounds harrowing for all concerned.

[jamiefairlie]

No reason to feel guilty for not tipping them then.

I don't. I'm fucking appalled by their open and naked cheating of the system. They don't hide it and see nothing wrong with it.

[jamiefairlie]

Surely the advantage is they also don't have to work people for tips by being falsely pleasant and eager, because honestly that sounds harrowing for all concerned.

They see the money as worth it. It's all about the hustle baby.

[thenoise]

Salty taste on your cafetiere could mean your dishwasher's fucked. Did the boomers refill the dishwater salt? And/or forget to screw the lid back on? And put the cafetiere in the dishwasher (where it has no place going)?

[Milo]

Yeah, who washes a cafetiere? You just rinse it and put it on the drainer.

[Ferris]

It's tories who don't tip. Or small minded progressives who think they understand 'business'.
'Don't give them too much you'll upset the market.'
'It's 10%, THAT'S THE RATE'.
Or 5%, as one ignoramus told me once when we were in Portugal.
Not an age related thing, at least in my experience.

Sorry your fam are tories now Fer.

To be clear, I don't really know if people tip while in the UK (though I do whenever I'm there because I'm a soft touch).

What grates: rule of thumb over here is 18-20% on food and $1 a drink. You don't legally have to, of course, but you don't legally have to hold in sonorant eggy guffs in the aisles either. As @Janie Jones (correctly and quite reasonably) points out: #NotAllBoomers, and committers of faux pas can be born in any decade, it is just that the ones I'm currently dealing with were (and indeed remain to this day) boomers.

To put it another way - these ruddy boomers are comin' over 'ere and not tippin' Are Brave Waitstaff and end of the day it's about not respecting our culture and our values, isn't it? Not wanting to blend in, you know, course you know how they are but of course nobody can say anything about it these days.

Spoiler alert

I apologize for starting a discussion on tipping. I only meant it to be a throwaway thing.

Secretly, I don't even massively care all that much. I don't even know what I'm doing, I should be working. Christ.

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