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Title: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on March 27, 2021, 07:32:50 PM
The first two images are pages from Cracker comic in 1975; the third is a page from Sparky comic in 1977.

(https://i.ibb.co/n0ZkGFL/1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CtN0cfH)

(https://i.ibb.co/0DpDyzM/2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xCKCqrj)

(https://i.ibb.co/h199ybL/3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5x446mG)



Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: bgmnts on March 27, 2021, 07:47:09 PM
Wonder if Garrison read this comic strip.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Bazooka on March 27, 2021, 08:19:00 PM
Is that 'WIN £1!' offer still going?
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Tony Tony Tony on March 27, 2021, 08:21:05 PM
Is that 'WIN £1!' offer still going?

At least three of those teachers were on the staff at my school.

Can I claim a pound?
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on March 27, 2021, 08:43:52 PM
Fair play "wishing well" is a good nickname for a teacher, unless its some kind of slur I'm not getting.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: idunnosomename on March 27, 2021, 10:14:00 PM
Brown cow looks like furry rule 34 fodder
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: ZoyzaSorris on March 27, 2021, 10:20:01 PM
There's an old Beano Annual at my Dad's from 1992 (after my time, it was my sister's) and that's got some pretty dodgy shit in it especially vis a vis our far eastern chums.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: kalowski on March 27, 2021, 10:47:44 PM
There's an old Beano Annual at my Dad's from 1992 (after my time, it was my sister's) and that's got some pretty dodgy shit in it especially vis a vis our far eastern chums.
The old L mixed with R trope was around for years after that. I am sure it was just seen as a funny old quirk of the Japanese (or Chinese, after all who can tell?)
That was another trope, by the way. Most gags saw Chinese, Japanese and Korean people as interchangeable.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on March 27, 2021, 10:53:03 PM
Little Plum was running when I was in primary school in the early 1990s. Getting a Beano Little Plum book on a sickie was one of my first "this can't be right" moments growing up.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on March 28, 2021, 03:55:41 AM
The old L mixed with R trope was around for years after that. I am sure it was just seen as a funny old quirk of the Japanese (or Chinese, after all who can tell?)
That was another trope, by the way. Most gags saw Chinese, Japanese and Korean people as interchangeable.
In college I knew a Chinese man who pronounced Rs as Ls, if the R came after another consonant. "Glow" instead of "grow" for instance. But just because it's real doesn't mean it's to be made fun of.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Dr Rock on March 28, 2021, 09:31:45 AM
Gosh, Cracker was my comic in 1975. Luckily one day I asked the shop lady for it and she misheard and gave me UK Marvel's Dracula Lives, and I took that from then on. Which was largely free of horrific racism (except maybe against Transylvanians).
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Johnny Yesno on March 28, 2021, 09:39:22 AM
These days, Looza Fox would lead a crusade to have any publication called Cracker cancelled.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Jumblegraws on March 28, 2021, 10:42:39 AM
Little Plum was running when I was in primary school in the early 1990s. Getting a Beano Little Plum book on a sickie was one of my first "this can't be right" moments growing up.
I had similar thoughts when I was a kid about the “Postman Patel” character in the Dandy. South Asian postie with a comically-huge turban who got tormented by a couple of toddlers and said “goodness gracious me” a lot. Going by this image, they were still using the character at least as late as 2000:
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/rOAAAOSwtg9d5BZ5/s-l300.jpg)
Btw, in the early 2000s I bought a copy of the Beano for old times sake, and they were running a Little Plum strip. Was the anti-PC backlash particularly strong at that time or something?
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: TheBrownBottle on March 28, 2021, 11:54:50 AM
Christ, Little Plum was decades out of date when I was a kid in the late ‘80s - I can’t believe the strip was still going in the C21st.  Or ‘um 21st Century’ as Little Plum would say.

The Beano & Dandy (and Beezer, Topper etc) were truly strange comics, looking back.  They were anachronistic when my friends and I would buy them - ‘cattys’, soap box carts, hobnail boots, canes, slippers etc.  That stuff was pretty harmless - but they were filled with reactionary nonsense - I can’t imagine much of it survives today (I mean, surely ‘Walter the Softy’ can’t still be around?  Or if he is, I’d hope that there’s been a serious character overhaul).  Racism, homophobia etc - that stuff was rampant.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Jumblegraws on March 28, 2021, 01:02:37 PM
Walter’s still going, there was a har-dee-har thing about him trying to sue Jacob Rees-Mogg for appropriating his appearance or something not too long ago. They’ve made his character a lot more vindictive and cut out all the effeminacy stuff to make Dennis seem less of the bullying proto-homophobe he was when I were a lad.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: SpiderChrist on March 28, 2021, 01:52:14 PM
Christ, Little Plum was decades out of date when I was a kid in the late ‘80s - I can’t believe the strip was still going in the C21st.  Or ‘um 21st Century’ as Little Plum would say.

The Beano & Dandy (and Beezer, Topper etc) were truly strange comics, looking back.  They were anachronistic when my friends and I would buy them - ‘cattys’, soap box carts, hobnail boots, canes, slippers etc.  That stuff was pretty harmless - but they were filled with reactionary nonsense - I can’t imagine much of it survives today (I mean, surely ‘Walter the Softy’ can’t still be around?  Or if he is, I’d hope that there’s been a serious character overhaul).  Racism, homophobia etc - that stuff was rampant.

Walter Softy was Bernard Sumner's nickname for Morrissey.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on April 02, 2021, 11:40:54 AM
Continuing my journey through editions of the 70s comic Sparky on DVD, I've just found this little gem.

(https://i.ibb.co/fX4Hvpz/1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nwzjCcN)
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on April 02, 2021, 06:41:34 PM
I came across this one just a minute ago.

(https://i.ibb.co/jWffZSb/1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KLhhzJb)
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Kankurette on April 02, 2021, 06:53:48 PM
It was still going on in the 90s, there was a Roger the Dodger strip where he pretended to be Chinese and went ‘ah so, ah so’. He dressed up as a Chinese person with a pigtail and mask in another strip and some Chinese people made him eat birds’ nest soup to teach him a lesson.

ETA: and yes, Little Plum was around in the 90s. I don’t think Walter was meant to be gay though. He had a couple of female crushes.

Any Scots remember the strip where Oor Wullie got covered in soot and it turned out he was OK because his class were doing a minstrel show?
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Dayraven on April 02, 2021, 06:59:55 PM
Quote
‘ah so, ah so’.
Which is not only Japanese, but in actual use is usually ‘yeah, whatever.’
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: kalowski on April 02, 2021, 08:52:51 PM
Continuing my journey through editions of the 70s comic Sparky on DVD, I've just found this little gem.

(https://i.ibb.co/fX4Hvpz/1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nwzjCcN)
Fucking hell!
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: bgmnts on April 02, 2021, 08:56:47 PM
Manaplomba!
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Kankurette on April 02, 2021, 08:59:52 PM
Manaplomba!
Hingfoom?
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Utterdrivel on April 02, 2021, 09:48:39 PM
Gobbledingadongalooga!
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: ZoyzaSorris on April 02, 2021, 09:54:12 PM
Wow that is pretty special. Christ.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: kalowski on April 02, 2021, 10:21:58 PM
Gobbledingadongalooga!
Ying Walla Woola, you're not wrong!
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: gib on April 02, 2021, 10:26:58 PM
you can't leave it there, what happened next!
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on April 02, 2021, 10:29:53 PM
Ying Walla Woola, you're not wrong!

The gent who said that in the comic was obviously familiar with this western song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmjrTcYMqBM
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on April 02, 2021, 10:42:02 PM
you can't leave it there, what happened next!

(https://i.ibb.co/jHdxdp3/1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sthDhBs)

(https://i.ibb.co/5kXrRFj/2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jz9yrRw)

(https://i.ibb.co/5xm8kxW/3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rfY63fG)
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Jumblegraws on April 02, 2021, 10:46:08 PM
ETA: and yes, Little Plum was around in the 90s. I don’t think Walter was meant to be gay though. He had a couple of female crushes.
Yeah, strictly speaking he wasn’t shown to be attracted to other lads, but the way he was characterised and Dennis’s disdain for him did resemble homophobic tropes sometimes (I had a friend who claims Dennis outright called Walter “poofy” one time, but that friend was a bit of a bullshitter). Articles discussing Dennis’s bullying being toned down do mention the homophobia angle, though I haven’t read enough into it to say if this was a concern DC Thomson officially had.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Wet Blanket on April 02, 2021, 10:46:51 PM
I’ve been looking through my stack of Beano and Dandy books from the early 90s and Asian stereotypes seem to have still been fair game at that time. Amazing to me because I’m sure my dad was complaining about everything being too politically correct even then
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: kalowski on April 02, 2021, 10:50:06 PM
That L Cars strip is unbelievable. Thankfully the recent Government Race Report has demonstrated such views are now in the past.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: gib on April 02, 2021, 10:53:41 PM
the payoff for the harmonica subplot was a massive let down
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Kankurette on April 02, 2021, 11:01:30 PM
That L Cars strip has NOT aged well, to say the least.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on April 03, 2021, 12:22:25 AM
the payoff for the harmonica subplot was a massive let down

To be fair, that's about the least of the things you can pick that strip up on.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on April 03, 2021, 12:23:15 AM
In defence of Sparky comic, its lead character for over 200 issues was the eponymous 'Sparky', a black schoolboy getting up to various adventures.

I don't think any other publication was doing anything similar so in a sense it was way ahead of its...  Oh dear.  https://ukcomics.fandom.com/wiki/Sparky_(strip)#
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on April 03, 2021, 12:25:38 AM
It was still going on in the 90s, there was a Roger the Dodger strip where he pretended to be Chinese and went ‘ah so, ah so’. He dressed up as a Chinese person with a pigtail and mask in another strip and some Chinese people made him eat birds’ nest soup to teach him a lesson.

I remember this strip. Dodgy as fuck.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: non capisco on April 03, 2021, 12:31:39 AM
The Krankies had no hesitation in uploading their  'Chinesse Sketch'  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeTtmevczJ4) to YouTube as late as 2016.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: purlieu on April 03, 2021, 12:34:53 AM
I'd never considered Walter the Softy as homophobic (although there are clearly elements of it in hindsight), but it did fall into the category of it being ok to bully anyone who was considered in any way nerdy, gentle, or generally not a cunt.
That said, from memory, Walter and his Chums got their revenge on Dennis about as often as the other way around, so it was pitched as a somewhat even fight.

In regards to the the racism in the opening comics, as someone who grew up on Disney films like this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeXIbVovojM&ab_channel=Namekjin), I'm not even the tiniest bit surprised.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: idunnosomename on April 03, 2021, 12:48:33 AM
The Krankies had no hesitation in uploading their  'Chinesse Sketch'  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeTtmevczJ4) to YouTube as late as 2016.
slitty eye joke got a big laugh eh

COULDNT GET AWAY WITH THAT TODAY. TERRIBLE. WOKE MARXISTS DESTROYING ARE HISTORY.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: non capisco on April 03, 2021, 01:23:49 AM
The BBC ran a report at the time and apparently the Chinesse kids in the audience were laughing the hardest at that, so stick that in your pipe and smoke it, Mr. I. M Woke.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on April 03, 2021, 01:46:23 AM
Gosh just look at the hilarious comedy that's all banned now thanks to PC wokescold cucks

Jokes like illegal immigrants are everywhere, screaming gibberish

and Chinese people have a different eye shape

Comedy gold

Gold I tell you
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: thecuriousorange on April 03, 2021, 02:03:35 AM
Edit  - not relevant.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on April 03, 2021, 02:36:11 AM
Jesus, I was trying to remember where I saw some heinous anti-asian shit in the Beano and the birds nest soup detail really brought it back. It was definitely that. I remember "forced to eat birds nest soup" being a running joke punchline in several strips. It probably wasn't as common as I remember but it came up more than once. I want to say, Calamity James? But this forum won't want me to besmirch Baxendale.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Kankurette on April 03, 2021, 03:05:42 AM
I think in Roger the Dodger’s case they were trying to catch him out, like ‘you’re not really Chinese, otherwise you’d eat this, aaahhhh.’

I don’t remember any racism in Calamity James.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Mister Six on April 03, 2021, 03:11:49 AM
The implication is that Chinese people eat disgusting things though.

I used to read Whizzer and Chips and (later) Buster. I remember then being fairly decent - Phil Fitt was a black character but his comedy trait was that he was a health nut. Watford Gapp (he's the king of rap) was just a regular guy who had whimsical adventures, IIRC. I suppose being a black guy who "raps" is a bit of a cliche, but....

Mustafa Million was a bit of a stereotype too - a rich Arab. But he used his money to have great fun with all his white mates.

I think there was one about a Chinese guy who was a kung-fu fighter with a Chinese braided queue hairstyle (so about 100 years out of date at least) who biffed up bullies, but I think that might have been an old strip from the 70s revived to fill a gap.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on April 03, 2021, 09:04:24 AM


I think there was one about a Chinese guy who was a kung-fu fighter with a Chinese braided queue hairstyle (so about 100 years out of date at least) who biffed up bullies, but I think that might have been an old strip from the 70s revived to fill a gap.

Sounds like Young Foo, originally from Cracker comic in the mid-70s - only he was shaven-headed. The first post in this thread includes two pages of his antics.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on April 03, 2021, 10:38:29 AM
The creator of L Cars in Sparky seemed to have a thing about illegal immigrants.  He did at least one other story featuring them.

(https://i.ibb.co/Th1Dp8V/3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bdFjqBS)

(https://i.ibb.co/3rMsVR2/4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j6W5qJm)
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Dr Rock on April 03, 2021, 10:41:59 AM
That said, from memory, Walter and his Chums got their revenge on Dennis about as often as the other way around, so it was pitched as a somewhat even fight.

Yes but did Walter ever start the shit, or go looking for aggro with Dennis The Cunt?
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: purlieu on April 03, 2021, 12:36:40 PM
Sometimes, yeah, although obviously the implication is that Dennis and his mates started the feud in the first place.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on April 03, 2021, 01:03:06 PM
Jesus, I was trying to remember where I saw some heinous anti-asian shit in the Beano and the birds nest soup detail really brought it back. It was definitely that. I remember "forced to eat birds nest soup" being a running joke punchline in several strips. It probably wasn't as common as I remember but it came up more than once. I want to say, Calamity James? But this forum won't want me to besmirch Baxendale.

Calamity James was a creation of the somewhat Baxendale influenced Tom Paterson, not Baxendale himself.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: idunnosomename on April 03, 2021, 01:08:44 PM
i admit i laughed at the turban setup because it was so contrived
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on April 03, 2021, 01:12:16 PM
Sounds like Young Foo, originally from Cracker comic in the mid-70s - only he was shaven-headed. The first post in this thread includes two pages of his antics.

Young Foo was in Cracker and then The Beezer after they merged, not Buster.

I still think "forced to eat Bird's Nest Soup" is a funny phrase though, and given what it involves I won't be falling over myself to feel bad about it.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Bazooka on April 03, 2021, 01:39:30 PM
Many Chinese people I know think Britain's favourite dish is Fish Head Pie, so it evens out.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: kalowski on April 03, 2021, 01:58:09 PM
Young Foo was in Cracker and then The Beezer after they merged, not Buster.

I still think "forced to eat Bird's Nest Soup" is a funny phrase though, and given what it involves I won't be falling over myself to feel bad about it.
Bird's Nest Soup and Shark Fin Soup (ideally, with a fin poking out the top)
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Jumblegraws on April 03, 2021, 01:59:49 PM
Getting a bit off-topic here, but Calamity James is a good example of something I really enjoyed as a child, but find quite grim and nasty as an adult. That had more to do with sensitivities changing with age than social progress though, I think. See also: Don Bluth films.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Kankurette on April 03, 2021, 02:44:35 PM
Getting a bit off-topic here, but Calamity James is a good example of something I really enjoyed as a child, but find quite grim and nasty as an adult. That had more to do with sensitivities changing with age than social progress though, I think. See also: Don Bluth films.
It is dark as fuck when you think about it.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Brundle-Fly on April 03, 2021, 03:32:39 PM
Quote from: Mister Six link=topic=86021.msg4511367#msg451136

I used to read Whizzer and Chips and (later) Buster. I remember then being fairly decent - Phil Fitt was a black character but his comedy trait was that he was a health nut.

...and a tiresome, fat-shaming prick, it seems?

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/I9DaGJ.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/VxIjMs.png)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/1HTgCE.png)

Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on April 03, 2021, 03:45:59 PM
Also from the Sparky

(https://i.ibb.co/b2Xbjck/1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VQTw0fs)

(https://i.ibb.co/q5vyQMJ/2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KwJ0vjK)
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Jockice on April 03, 2021, 04:38:43 PM
Wonder what the fuzzy-wuzzies thought about all this.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Dr Rock on April 03, 2021, 05:07:00 PM
Do you reckon everyone working on these comics was about 80 years old? Buzby?
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on April 03, 2021, 05:20:15 PM
I came across this one just a minute ago.

(https://i.ibb.co/jWffZSb/1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KLhhzJb)

Swap the Hong Kong Phooey caricature in your mind with one of an ape-like Afro-Caribbean or a Jew with a big hooked nose,
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: jamiefairlie on April 03, 2021, 05:22:47 PM
Wonder what the fuzzy-wuzzies thought about all this.

Didn’t like it up em, I heard.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Alternative Carpark on April 03, 2021, 05:34:49 PM
Though I do find 'Invisible Dick' quite a funny title. They must have been taking the mickey with that title though, surely?

I could imagine the first page of that second L Cars strip almost as a Viz parody. Not the second page though, admittedly.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Dayraven on April 04, 2021, 11:19:25 AM
I think there was one about a Chinese guy who was a kung-fu fighter with a Chinese braided queue hairstyle (so about 100 years out of date at least) who biffed up bullies
Karate Sid from the Beano.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: OnlyRegisteredSoICanRead on April 05, 2021, 06:19:23 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/totp2/features/top5/overweight.shtml

Oh, and The BBC website as well.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: pigamus on April 05, 2021, 06:43:20 PM
Swap the Hong Kong Phooey caricature in your mind with one of an ape-like Afro-Caribbean or a Jew with a big hooked nose,

I admit that Paul Daniels’s patter isn’t justifiable today
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on April 05, 2021, 08:27:33 PM
Remember Plug comic and their Antchester United strip?

(https://i.ibb.co/VHPnDbG/Germany.png)

(https://i.ibb.co/Sd6jyXn/Holland.png)
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Magnum Valentino on April 05, 2021, 09:47:42 PM
Gosh, Cracker was my comic in 1975. Luckily one day I asked the shop lady for it and she misheard and gave me UK Marvel's Dracula Lives, and I took that from then on. Which was largely free of horrific racism (except maybe against Transylvanians).

Dracula Lives was an excellent spin off of the even better Tomb of Dracula, the strip that introduced Blade to the Marvel universe.

Draclia refers to Blade as "Black" every time he speaks to or about him. It's a real issue for him that Blade is black.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: JamesTC on April 05, 2021, 09:50:04 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/totp2/features/top5/overweight.shtml

Oh, and The BBC website as well.

Quote from: The BBC Website
It's a little-known fact, but there used to be around 30 Weather Girls. No, really. Unfortunately, when their camp classic 'It's Raining Men' was first put to tape, 28 of them had eaten a particularly ripe curry the night before, and actually exploded during the recording.

Blimey.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: kalowski on April 05, 2021, 10:10:16 PM
I think I got lucky. My comic if choice was Krazy. I'm trying to remember, but don't recall any dodgy racist characters in that. I think Chicken (from Birdman and Chicken) was a bit camp, maybe.
Having said all this, I'm also pretty sure every character was white.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on April 05, 2021, 10:46:59 PM
Sporty from the Krazy gang was black, and a positive role model, liking his sports and all that.

Freaky , from the same gang, was green ( being an alien), but they phased him out after a bit, because I don't think they knew what to do with him/ it.

Cheeky had a couple of racist stereotype mates like the Indian lad Gunga Jim ( " Oh, curry curry, hot stuff!"  " Groan! They ought TURBAN jokes like that one!"), but that was from his spin- off comic Cheeky Weekly.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: kalowski on April 06, 2021, 02:35:08 PM
Sporty from the Krazy gang was black, and a positive role model, liking his sports and all that.

Freaky , from the same gang, was green ( being an alien), but they phased him out after a bit, because I don't think they knew what to do with him/ it.

Cheeky had a couple of racist stereotype mates like the Indian lad Gunga Jim ( " Oh, curry curry, hot stuff!"  " Groan! They ought TURBAN jokes like that one!"), but that was from his spin- off comic Cheeky Weekly.
Yes, I remember Sporty, and it just seemed natural he was one of the gang. Race never mentioned. Although you could go down the angle of "make the black character physical and sporty, of course!"
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Kankurette on April 06, 2021, 03:43:12 PM
Was Benji from Ball Boy black or Asian?
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on April 13, 2021, 05:18:48 PM
Going through a collection of Beano annuals on DVD, just found this little beauty from the 1975 edition. 

(https://i.ibb.co/tXZq843/1.jpg)
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: JesusAndYourBush on April 13, 2021, 05:48:09 PM
The BBC ran a report at the time and apparently the Chinese kids in the audience were laughing the hardest at that, so stick that in your pipe and smoke it, Mr. I. M Woke.

At school in 1981 they showed us a video of a tv show called "16 Up", and in it was an appearance by John Cooper Clarke doing a piece called "Kung Fu International". (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuvtW6_lJig)  Everyone laughed so much that when the programme ended the teacher rewound the tape and let us watch that part again.  While everyone laughed uproariously the one Chinese kid in the class sat there looking absolutely furious.
Title: Re: Times really do change, don't they?
Post by: Johnboy on April 13, 2021, 09:07:28 PM
Paddywack in Cheeky comic, late 70s - my heart always sank when I turned the page to that.