Tonga volcanic fuckdown

[Harry Badger]

Didn't see a thread for this. It looks likes a devastating amount of damage has been done and there's a disturbing shortage of information coming out of the island, though apparently power has been restored. The blast was so powerful it caused flooding in California.

[Mobius]

Yeah we had crazy red skies in Brisbane this morning due to the ash cloud.

Seems like it was very bad.

[touchingcloth]

I said puckdown. With a 'p'.

[JaDanketies]

Stunning footage from space.

Heard from a low-quality source that this is the kind of volcanic eruption that can have effects on the global climate. might buy us some time for global warming. Certainly looked like a big fuckin explosion from the space footage

[buttgammon]

This looks awful, and there are some nasty side effects like acid rain too. Just looking at it on a map, Tonga looks isolated at the best of times, the lack of communication is worrying indeed. It sounds as though their main cable connection to the outside world may have been severed.

[Harry Badger]

Stunning footage from space.

Heard from a low-quality source that this is the kind of volcanic eruption that can have effects on the global climate. might buy us some time for global warming. Certainly looked like a big fuckin explosion from the space footage

I love the grossly inappropriate tribal drumming soundtrack on that video.

Re global warming - how does that work? By literally blocking the sun with ash? Cos I wouldn't have thought that was good - it wasn't in 1815.

[JaDanketies]

I love the grossly inappropriate tribal drumming soundtrack on that video.

Re global warming - how does that work? By literally blocking the sun with ash? Cos I wouldn't have thought that was good - it wasn't in 1815.

Yeah it will lead to famine and chaos. But it'll lower global temperatures, too. Apparently Yellowstone would lead to a 2 degrees C drop for 20 years! every (ash) cloud...

[Harry Badger]

If the Yellowstone Caldera went up that would pretty much end civilisation as we know it.

[JaDanketies]

If the Yellowstone Caldera went up that would pretty much end civilisation as we know it.

mmmaybe. There have been two eruptions of Yellowstone-level intensity since humans came about. It'd certainly be a big change but I reckon billions would survive. Civilisation as we know it is on a knife-edge cos of climate change anyway. A Yellowstone eruption might be just what we need.

[mothman]

There's an image doing the rounds showing the size of the explosion superimposed on France. Here's an animated version:

https://twitter.com/dsaezgil/status/1482618629862559744

Could have been worse, could just have been an explosion the size of Belgium...

[Inspector Norse]

This Reuters report has some amazing patronising crass quotes from Australian/NZ government blokes. One guy focusing on the damage to tourist resorts, another making crappy tsunami jokes. The volcano expert gets one line and uses it to basically say it looked really cool from space.

The lad who drove the ice cream van in our neighbourhood was saving up to go to Tonga. Wonder if he got lavaed.

[mothman]

You'd know if he'd been Tongaed.

[famethrowa]

I said puckdown. With a 'p'.

hehe

[Harry Badger]

mmmaybe. There have been two eruptions of Yellowstone-level intensity since humans came about. It'd certainly be a big change but I reckon billions would survive. Civilisation as we know it is on a knife-edge cos of climate change anyway. A Yellowstone eruption might be just what we need.

The difference then to now is that our our economy amd society are so complex that any forced simplification via natural disaster, climate change, or my personal favourite, resource depletion will have that much more devastating an effect. Simpler societies have far more resiliance.

[mothman]

The difference then to now is that our our economy amd society are so complex that any forced simplification via natural disaster, climate change, or my personal favourite, resource depletion will have that much more devastating an effect. Simpler societies have far more resiliance.

In theory, yes. In practice - when said societies find the entire remaining US military has been tasked to move in and take control so as to move millions of their own citizens there - not so much.

[ZoyzaSorris]

I think he meant that prehistoric societies around when Yellowstone last went off would have been more resilient in the face of massive global environmental changes than an advanced modern society with very high population density reliant on a continual supply of industrial-scale food production ..

[mothman]

You're right. But the second part of what I said, that'll still happen!

[greenman]

I'm guessing similar to the 19th century eruption of Krakatoa, it has been eruopting previously and the lava chamber under it was emptied enough that it collapsed causing an explosion when the seawater hit the lava.

Don't think its going to be large enough to have a signifcant effort on global temps though, Tambora in 1815 was quite a lot larger, the largest eruption in several thousand years.

[Thursday]

Can we just have the environmental disaster that actually wipes us all out now please? It's the waiting I can't stand.

[Captain Z]

I hardly knew 'er

[Emma Raducanu]

Hope all the fish are okay too

[idunnosomename]

This is happens when you shit and cum at the same time

[bgmnts]

Yeah it will lead to famine and chaos. But it'll lower global temperatures, too. Apparently Yellowstone would lead to a 2 degrees C drop for 20 years! every (ash) cloud...

Well considering some of the main negative outcomes of global warming and climate change are famine and global chaos, it doesn't seem like an impeovement.

The difference then to now is that our our economy amd society are so complex that any forced simplification via natural disaster, climate change, or my personal favourite, resource depletion will have that much more devastating an effect. Simpler societies have far more resiliance.

Tell that to the Hittites.

[katzenjammer]

And it wouldn't do anything to counteract  other serious effects of CO2 emissions like ocean acidification

[imitationleather]

Christ. These days even a thread on here about a massive disaster where probably thousands of people have died horrible deaths becomes an excuse for you guys to look at the negatives in life.

[bgmnts]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60027913

British body found. This just got real, folks.

[mothman]

I'd really hoped no parrots were involved. Sadly it was not to be.

[bgmnts]

So is Tonga fucked now and will we all be fucked soon?

Just want to know because I want to try and complete a few games first.

[Butchers Blind]

Tonga Gonga

[Famous Mortimer]

mmmaybe. There have been two eruptions of Yellowstone-level intensity since humans came about. It'd certainly be a big change but I reckon billions would survive. Civilisation as we know it is on a knife-edge cos of climate change anyway. A Yellowstone eruption might be just what we need.

I, too, wish for a natural disaster to kill billions of people - just not me or anyone I know, of course.