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2022 Tory leadership election

Started by Fambo Number Mive, July 08, 2022, 04:51:48 PM

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Which turd will become the next PM?

Turdy Turdnak, Johnson's  former Turdscraper
3 (3.9%)
Lizturd 'Trussalon' Turdruss, Turd Secretary (a turd)
11 (14.5%)
Penny Mordaunt, the more she done the more she dern't
1 (1.3%)
"Fondling" Ron, the 'Wayne Rooney Sponsored Wankathon' Ron and his wife Non-Ron
5 (6.6%)
Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe Simpson
3 (3.9%)
The putrefying corpse of Jimmy Savile, he is a paedo and a necrophile
2 (2.6%)
All of the above
1 (1.3%)
Grant Schnapps
1 (1.3%)
A praying mantis with its cock out
6 (7.9%)
A pipette of iodine squirting through the darkening veins of a potato clock
5 (6.6%)
Louis Tussaud
3 (3.9%)
Oh yes, I'm the great bell-ender / Resetting all vote counts like a clowne
14 (18.4%)
Dresden and its twin-town Other Dresden
4 (5.3%)
C UNTC UNTC UNTC UNTCUNTC UNTCUNTC UNTCUNTC UNTC
17 (22.4%)

Total Members Voted: 75

superthunderstingcar

QuoteQ: How are you going to get civil servants back into the office when people at the top are all remainers?

Truss says she is good at getting things done.
That question reads like it was generated by a particularly stupid AI, one that was trained on all the worst opinions held by Tories.

Mind you, so does the answer.

Bernice

Q: How are you going to level up women's toilets if woke universities keep talking down Churchill?

A: As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see 'the River Tiber foaming with much blood'.

Psybro

Q: What is a woman?
A: About 10k in debt to an energy supplier.


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Quote from: greencalx on August 08, 2022, 08:08:39 AMThat was my conclusion after a quick Google, too. So my assumption is that it's only there to make 1 & 2 more "respectable" by having some kind of academese attached to it.

Liss Truss is using those terms because unfortunately, even the educated people here don't grasp the US-centric context it exists in. "Supply Side" is the supposed economic underpinings of "Reagonomics", a theory that should have been discredited in the 1980s, but is a dog whistle to the UK hard right that so envies the US push to fascism and knows exactly what "supply side" is referring too, but don't want to be easily cornered by the immediate response of what "Supply side" led too back in the 80s and every time it's been tried since.

But yes, the underpinnings are

Quote"Supply-side economics is a macroeconomic theory that postulates economic growth can be most effectively fostered by lowering taxes, decreasing regulation, and allowing free trade.[1][2] According to supply-side economics, consumers will benefit from greater supplies of goods and services at lower prices, and employment will increase.[3]

So why isn't Liz Truss simultaneously fighting to bring down the prices of Electricity? Because it's all a lie, all that matters is that tax is dropped on the rich and they don't have to obey the same laws as everyone else.

shoulders

All politicians, elected or unelected bastardise ideology and economic theory to their own ends.

While die hard ideologues do exist, most career politicians filter the information along the lines of 'how do I use this to my advantage?'

David Cameron didn't believe in the Big Society (which had some noble intentions at the very outset), he believed in its friendly packaging in order to lay off permanent staff and replace them with volunteers.

By contrast Iain Duncan Smith did this in inverse. He earnestly traversed the country meeting real people and listening to their problems to help understand how to improve the DWP then ended up doing exactly what he would have done had he spent all that time having massive wanks while eating cereal directly out of the packet. But it was important, for optics, that it looked like he had given poverty a thoroughly good looking into.

jamiefairlie

Quote from: BigotsShouldWheest on August 10, 2022, 04:36:04 PMSo why isn't Liz Truss simultaneously fighting to bring down the prices of Electricity? Because it's all a lie, all that matters is that tax is dropped on the rich and they don't have to obey the same laws as everyone else

Because the magic market will do that. It's pathetic but it is at least ideologically consistent with Thatcherism, get gov out of business and let the market do what it will.

Always funny that allowing businesses and the rich to not pay tax means they'll invest in the UK and we'll all be paid more, but that we shouldn't ask to be paid more because it'll dissuade investment in the UK. It's almost as if it's all self-serving bollocks spouted by cunts on the take.

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Iain "Dunkin" Smith, the same hand back and forth between his wanks and his box of Kellogg's Start


jobotic

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/liz-truss-conversion-therapy-ban-u-turn-iain-duncan-smith/

I can't bear it.

Meanwhile Braverman is sending out guidance telling schools that homophobic and anti-trans bullying cannot be deemed unacceptable.

https://archive.ph/vmqZp#selection-1503.0-1503.173

Putinesque

Fambo Number Mive


Sunak turned up to the leadership debate in Darlington with a hole in his shoe, no doubt to make himself look like a "man of the people"

He is interviewed tonight on BBC One at 7pm by Nick Robinson.

Fambo Number Mive

Hilarious. This guy is a blue tick. "How dare Sunak criticise his rival in a leadership contest"

Quote@KEdge23
It's sad that Rishi Sunak and his team feel they need to constantly try and diss Liz Truss to chase votes. No way to talk about the future Prime Minister and a fellow Conservative.

Divided parties don't win elections.

As if Truss and her team aren't criticising Sunak to try to win votes.

Sunak's latest brainfart:

Quote@DavidTWilcock
Sunak says he wants 'life without parole' for people in drugs gangs

So under this plan people would serve longer in prison for selling drugs than murder or child abuse.

Quote@Defencebrief
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18h
Replying to
@DavidTWilcock
I suspect this wouldn't deter many from joining but I bet it would make them far more ruthless in disposing of people they think might give evidence against them, including police, lawyers, judges, etc. I mean they'd have literally nothing to lose!

What will Sunak come out with next? Making it illegial to fly the EU flag? Tax cuts for Tory party members? OBE for Nigel Farage? Capital punishment for dropping your h's? Banning wanking? England to be renamed "Margaret Thatcher island?"

idunnosomename

just realised Suella Braverman looks like Wallace



cracking culture war bait gromit

Fambo Number Mive

Truss has signalled she will promote Kemi Badenoch to cabinet, in response to a questioner on the GB News hustings telling her she would like to see Badenoch in a major role like foreign secretary.


jamiefairlie

The 'war on woke' is the Brexit of the next election. It's how they keep the red wall onside during a recession. It's going to be really grim.

greencalx

I know this is a rhetorical question, but how do people who think that markets always produce the best answer to any question explain the existence of a market for child pornography?

Quote from: greencalx on August 10, 2022, 07:27:17 PMI know this is a rhetorical question, but how do people who think that markets always produce the best answer to any question explain the existence of a market for child pornography?

Get on Question Time and ask that.

WhoMe

Sunak coming across like he's trying to get investment for a terrible startup on child's dragons den

Kankurette

Quote from: jamiefairlie on August 10, 2022, 06:48:00 PMThe 'war on woke' is the Brexit of the next election. It's how they keep the red wall onside during a recession. It's going to be really grim.
It is genuinely frightening. Not just for trans people, but for anyone who criticises the government.

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Quote from: greencalx on August 10, 2022, 07:27:17 PMI know this is a rhetorical question, but how do people who think that markets always produce the best answer to any question explain the existence of a market for child pornography?

You tell that to Sunak!

Quote from: WhoMe on August 10, 2022, 07:32:17 PMSunak coming across like he's trying to get investment for a terrible startup on child's dragons den

jamiefairlie

Quote from: greencalx on August 10, 2022, 07:27:17 PMI know this is a rhetorical question, but how do people who think that markets always produce the best answer to any question explain the existence of a market for child pornography?

Ah but the market doesn't make moral choices, that's up to the consumers. Find it immoral then don't buy it.

Buelligan

I'd like them to explain why Britain's brilliant railways market means that a third of maintenance staff and half maintenance schedules have to be scrapped in the most expensive to use system in Europe and they can't even get the fucking trains to run on time.  I'd like them to explain why Britain's privatised water companies continue to lose millions of litres of water daily whilst paying their chief exectutives bonuses and pumping raw sewage as a matter of course into rivers and the sea.  Literally shitting in our mouths and we pay them to do it.  I'd like them to explain why their privately owned energy companies are raking in billions in record profits whilst the people are seeing rises of thousands of pounds.  They could start with explaining that and then go on to tell everyone how much worse everything could be if fucking Corbyn was PM.

https://www.vouchercloud.com/resources/train-prices-across-europe
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/ater-companies-fix-leaking-pipes-government-drought-1787598

Buelligan

Just watching tonight's Novara and was really shocked by this graphic ( https://youtu.be/LhKepJ62wYw?t=210 ) video timestamped there.  It shows Britain's energy bills increasing by 215% and France, 4%, we have a publicly owned energy provider. 

How can anybody argue that the UK is benefiting from having its energy market arranged as it is?  Insanity.

All Surrogate

It is a real shame there aren't more nuclear power stations in the UK.

Quote from: shoulders on August 10, 2022, 04:44:23 PMAll politicians, elected or unelected bastardise ideology and economic theory to their own ends.

To be fair, mainstream economic theory doesn't take much bastardising to be useful to the powerful.

Buelligan

On the nuclear thing, we get around 2500 hours of sunshine pa here.  Imagine what putting the cost of those reactors, including waste and decommissioning, into solar panels would do for us.  And for the planet.

jobotic

Some of the questions from GBNews were a hair's breadth from "what will you do to secure the existenceof our people and a future for white children?"

Kankurette

I mean, who cares if those white kids play on a beach covered in shit or have to sleep in their coats?

Paul Calf

Remember when the government were still pretending that the cost-of-living crisis was a temporary one-off pain point rather than the beginning of a period where the vast majority of people will be chained by debt to massive, unaccountable corporations and be allowed to exercise only the most limited of democratic rights and choices?*

Turn out and vote then fuck off home and beg your employer for more work, scum.

*deliberately avoiding your energy bills will of course accelerate this process. Funny that it's the mode of protest that's been most-widely promoted...