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Title: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Endicott on December 01, 2020, 09:38:16 PM
https://audioboom.com/posts/7736438-keir-starmer-establishment-tool

Bit short.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Mr_Simnock on December 02, 2020, 02:07:43 AM
But very good
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Menu on December 02, 2020, 03:50:06 AM
https://audioboom.com/posts/7736438-keir-starmer-establishment-tool

Bit short.

Fat as well.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: petrilTanaka on December 02, 2020, 11:52:02 AM
how do they do the "walking through random scenes while doing standup" bits if it's just audio?
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Dog Botherer on December 02, 2020, 04:35:26 PM
enjoyed this
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: frajer on December 05, 2020, 01:43:37 PM
https://audioboom.com/posts/7736438-keir-starmer-establishment-tool

Bit short.

Cheers for posting, hadn’t heard about this at all.

Just watched his tie-in lockdown cycle on Youtube and thought it was lovely. Only 15 mins long but could easily have watched an hour of it.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Pink Gregory on December 05, 2020, 06:46:28 PM
I found that as well, I could go for a lot of Alexei Sayle doing walking/cycling tours and talking to himself.  Just great company
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: olliebean on December 05, 2020, 07:15:29 PM
Episode 2 is out and longer.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Epic Bisto on December 06, 2020, 05:06:51 PM
Really good stuff.  I could listen to him talk for hours.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Dog Botherer on December 06, 2020, 05:48:04 PM
enjoy the riffs and random chat more than the telegraphed dad jokes. still good mind.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: phantom_power on December 06, 2020, 05:55:48 PM
It is nice to hear someone unashamedly left wing, even going as far as to be the "far left" that the centrists accuse socialists of being. So many people on the left in the mainstream couch everything in terms designed to make people less left more comfortable, and I can understand why given what people like Maxine Peake have had to go through when they get caught with their socialism showing. Sayle just doesn't give a fuck, and that's great.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Pink Gregory on December 06, 2020, 06:09:18 PM
enjoy the riffs and random chat more than the telegraphed dad jokes. still good mind.

Some of it is material from Imaginary Sandwich Bar, but who can blame him.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: pigamus on December 06, 2020, 06:21:37 PM
I just want to listen to him call Tom Watson a cunt on a loop
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on December 06, 2020, 09:27:07 PM
He'd fit right in here the lovely old bastard.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Mister Six on December 07, 2020, 01:21:05 AM
Not listened to it yet but that beard really suits him.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Non Stop Dancer on December 07, 2020, 11:06:49 PM
I'm currently listening to him narrate the audio book of Sunburn and he's absolutely brilliant in the role.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Rizla on December 07, 2020, 11:15:58 PM
Love that he's doing these, nice to hear him mention listening to Novara too. What a dude. As I mentioned a while back in the transphobic nonentity thread, I've been rewatching Stuff episodes on youtube, most of it is there if you look, 3 series of absolute brilliance. The Renwick/Marshall-written material has aged incredibly well and still has teeth today, whereas the later All New Alexei Sayle Show (Linehan/Mathews) was ok-ish in parts but lacked the vitriol and seemed to go for easier targets.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: pigamus on December 08, 2020, 09:29:58 PM
Much prefer this to the sandwich shop - I prefer him just talking into the mic - really looking forward to the others.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on December 15, 2020, 11:24:15 PM
I just want to listen to him call Tom Watson a cunt on a loop

Some of his invective in those first two episodes made me laugh out loud. He's always had that gift, a way of expressing deep-seated disgust in an innately funny way. And his decency, his intelligence, always shines through. I know it wasn't a fully-formed bit, but his suggestion that Corbyn should form a party called The Nice People, just to annoy all the cunts, cheered me up quite a bit. 

And hats off to him for devoting most of episode one to how much he's always despised the ruling Labour factions. I didn't watch the reality show he mentioned, but Tom Watson titting about on ITV in a fucking canoe was such a perfectly succinct example of what is wrong with these careerist scumbags.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: phantom_power on December 16, 2020, 10:29:22 AM
Really looking forward to when he gets into the cowardice of most comedians during the Corbyn years, and talking about Whoops Apocalypse and other work from his past
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: olliebean on December 19, 2020, 09:16:55 PM
There's another one out, a chat with Andrew Marshall and David Renwick touching on WA and ASS. It ends all too soon but lovely to hear nonetheless. Hardly anything about the Labour Party this time.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: frajer on December 19, 2020, 10:02:37 PM
Watched his second lockdown cycle on YouTube this morning and it remains an utterly lovely thing.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Urinal Cake on December 28, 2020, 01:57:48 AM
There's another one out, a chat with Andrew Marshall and David Renwick touching on WA and ASS. It ends all too soon but lovely to hear nonetheless. Hardly anything about the Labour Party this time.
It was good and I think he'll have them on again.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: olliebean on January 06, 2021, 08:36:16 AM
There's a new one of these out, and also Alexei is the guest in the new episode of Richard Herring's podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD9qDhjb9AY
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: SpiderChrist on January 06, 2021, 10:23:27 AM
Got my email read out. Maybe my mood affected my enjoyment, but this episode felt pretty weak. Still gonna carry on listening, cos I love Alexei too much.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Mobbd on January 06, 2021, 11:32:55 AM
Episode 3 is no good (but that's not Alexei's fault: to his credit, all episodes have been quite different so far and he's said that he's trying to find out what works and what doesn't) but this is generally great. Love it in fact. Looking forward to more.

I knew he had an appearance on RHLSTP coming up and it landed this morning. Tucking in now. "Santa Claus-faced motherfucker."

This sudden and welcome influx of lexipod (and that someone just gave me a copy of Barcelona Plates apropos of nowt) is making me realise that I've not seen enough Alexei Sayle properly. I mean, he's been omnipresent in my life as a comedy fan and I appreciate his centrality to alternative comedy, but I've rarely actively sought out his work or watched it in a very critical or deep way. I'm not sure why this should be; I've always liked him. Maybe I was too young[1] to fully appreciate his politics[2] when he was most active on TV and so I never quite latched onto him in the way I did with, say, Rik.

I'm going to re-watch Stuff this week. Anything else of his telly/radio work I should whorishly consume?
 1. I remember rolling on the floor in paroxysms of joy over "Mr Poo-Poo Goes to the Lavatory" though
 2. I fucking do now though and I love the pro-Corbyn/anti-Starmer/"The Guardian is a stinking establishment organ" attitude on his pod
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Mobbd on January 06, 2021, 11:33:32 AM
Got my email read out. Maybe my mood affected my enjoyment, but this episode felt pretty weak. Still gonna carry on listening, cos I love Alexei too much.

Are you the Nurse Party lad? Thought that was a good idea.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: SpiderChrist on January 06, 2021, 11:40:03 AM
Are you the Nurse Party lad? Thought that was a good idea.

Nah I'm the idiot who asked "Is there any hope?" and got the short shrift that kind of question deserves.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Mobbd on January 06, 2021, 11:53:16 AM
Nah I'm the idiot who asked "Is there any hope?" and got the short shrift that kind of question deserves.

He didn't quite engage with it did he? Not sure why. If its any consolation, your question made me laugh. Others will like it too.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: the on January 06, 2021, 12:17:56 PM
This sudden and welcome influx of lexipod (and that someone just gave me a copy of Barcelona Plates apropos of nowt) is making me realise that I've not seen enough Alexei Sayle properly. I mean, he's been omnipresent in my life as a comedy fan and I appreciate his centrality to alternative comedy, but I've rarely actively sought out his work or watched it in a very critical or deep way. I'm not sure why this should be; I've always liked him. Maybe I was too young[1] to fully appreciate his politics[2] when he was most active on TV and so I never quite latched onto him in the way I did with, say, Rik.

I'm going to re-watch Stuff this week. Anything else of his telly/radio work I should whorishly consume?
 1. I remember rolling on the floor in paroxysms of joy over "Mr Poo-Poo Goes to the Lavatory" though
 2. I fucking do now though and I love the pro-Corbyn/anti-Starmer/"The Guardian is a stinking establishment organ" attitude on his pod

Stuff is definitely the cream of his solo TV work (written with Renwick and Marshall).

The All New Alexei Sayle Show (written with Linehan and Mathews) has some good stuff in it, but overall it's weaker, with thinner material and has lost a lot of the focus and comedy thrust that Stuff had.

Merry-Go-Round is due a rewatch for me - I liked it at the time but it's an awkward beast. IIRC it's got a slightly more sour edge to it, with no audience, and it's a bit more introspective and self-indulgent (to both good and bad effect). It still suffers from some weak material though. It's interesting though, both as a snapshot of the arse-end of the 90s comedy bubble, and a time when Sayle was getting fed up of TV and was moving towards being an author.

Going back in time, Alexei had his own episode of a show called Comic Roots in 1982, which featured him walking around and doing material - the format of this later acted as the blueprint for Stuff and his subsequent shows above. It's a bit more laid-back than Stuff but has some funny stuff in it. (Part 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBCVyzIBKio) | Part 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHNIkXSb79c) | Part 3 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q3PfY4ECPs))

Of a similar vintage, he features prominently in the Arena documentary The Private Life Of The Ford Cortina (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A2wdYfRzy8), which I have yet to get round to watching.

Radio wise, if you haven't listened to Imaginary Sandwich Bar (https://fourble.co.uk/podcast/alexeisaylesimaginarysandwichbars13) I'd strongly recommend it. If you've seen him do stand-up since he started again in the last decade, ISB acts as a document of some of that material but there's plenty of fresh stuff in there too.

He is magnificent live, and he also sometimes does book readings (including work-in-progress writings). And his autobiographies are properly funny (and most comedy autobiographies don't make me laugh at all) - Stalin Ate My Homework covers his childhood, and Thatcher Stole My Trousers covers his college days up to the mid-80s. A third volume has been in the works for some time.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Mobbd on January 06, 2021, 12:28:52 PM
That's great, the, thanks very much. Especially for the Arena film, which I wouldn't have found any time soon.

I've seen all that other telly work but it's precisely what I should revisit. And I am yet to listen to Imaginary Sandwich Bar, so I'll make a beeline for it. Thanks again.

Funnily enough, I read Thatcher Stole my Trousers shortly after it came out. There's a great passage in it that I've been meaning to post to the "is self-improvement a conservative value" thread.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Mobbd on January 06, 2021, 01:08:30 PM
Funnily enough, I read Thatcher Stole my Trousers shortly after it came out. There's a great passage in it that I've been meaning to post to the "is self-improvement a conservative value" thread.

Plop: https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,84124.msg4425957.html#msg4425957
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: SpiderChrist on January 06, 2021, 02:15:56 PM
He didn't quite engage with it did he? Not sure why. If its any consolation, your question made me laugh. Others will like it too.

Aw. Cheers.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Pink Gregory on January 06, 2021, 03:41:44 PM
Anyone here read his novel Overtaken?

I felt that the short stories in Barcelona Plates are closer to him comic voice, but it's really rather good if a bit mid 2000s, but that's going to happen.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: olliebean on January 06, 2021, 03:44:26 PM
Episode 3 is no good (but that's not Alexei's fault: to his credit, all episodes have been quite different so far and he's said that he's trying to find out what works and what doesn't) but this is generally great. Love it in fact. Looking forward to more.

Episode 3 (the one with Marshall & Renwick) is great. Episode 4 feels a bit like filler, though. I'd sooner he just let himself talk about whatever's on his mind, like in the first two, than focus too much on the listener questions, especially if they're as poor as some of the ones in this episode.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Mobbd on January 06, 2021, 03:56:37 PM
Episode 3 (the one with Marshall & Renwick) is great. Episode 4 feels a bit like filler, though. I'd sooner he just let himself talk about whatever's on his mind, like in the first two, than focus too much on the listener questions, especially if they're as poor as some of the ones in this episode.

It didn't really work for me. Their insight was pretty limited and it didn't make up for the chore of being patient with the sound quality (not their fault, but y'know). I was curious about Whoops Apocalypse (supposedly the object of the episode) but they took ages getting onto it and didn't have much to say when they did. Their anecdotes about TV production were a snore and their attempts at wit (or maybe just at being cheerful or something) were old-hat and lily-livered. Nice of them to turn up though.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: SpiderChrist on January 06, 2021, 04:25:22 PM
Episode 3 (the one with Marshall & Renwick) is great. Episode 4 feels a bit like filler, though. I'd sooner he just let himself talk about whatever's on his mind, like in the first two, than focus too much on the listener questions, especially if they're as poor as some of the ones in this episode.

Aw. Cheers.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: olliebean on January 06, 2021, 04:58:23 PM
Aw. Cheers.

It wasn't your question I was thinking of. I quite enjoyed the awkward pause when Alexei didn't realise the question had finished.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: SpiderChrist on January 06, 2021, 05:08:20 PM
Just funnin', sorry.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: sutin on January 06, 2021, 05:30:43 PM
He's on this week's RHLSTP.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 06, 2021, 06:00:36 PM
He's on this week's RHLSTP.

Listening to it now. Herring clearly doesn't agree with all the entirely correct things Sayle has to say about Corbyn and Starmer.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Pink Gregory on January 06, 2021, 06:41:18 PM
Of course.  No surprises there.  Grown up opposition eh Rich.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Pink Gregory on January 06, 2021, 07:07:16 PM
https://www.comedy.co.uk/radio/news/6147/alexei-sayle-radio-4-series/?fbclid=IwAR2YoxqDp2YBc2DkCBNugO215XYjUERqjWlwi8l8VByO5JyrB3swT45mTiY

New short story series, s4 of ISB and adapting his memoirs for TV
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: frajer on January 06, 2021, 08:37:17 PM
Of course.  No surprises there.  Grown up opposition eh Rich.

Was looking forward to popping this on after hearing Sayle’s lovely passionate socialism on his own pod, but not sure I can take Herring’s centrist dad equivocating, which sounds like it’s out in full effect?
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: EOLAN on January 06, 2021, 10:46:26 PM
Was looking forward to popping this on after hearing Sayle’s lovely passionate socialism on his own pod, but not sure I can take Herring’s centrist dad equivocating, which sounds like it’s out in full effect?

Sayle by far the most passionate in their exchanges. Herring just largely letting him talk and not arguing back much.

Anyone who speaks Spanish  know what Sayle said about Tom Watson at the start?
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: SpiderChrist on January 07, 2021, 03:36:40 AM
Anyone who speaks Spanish  know what Sayle said about Tom Watson at the start?

My limited knowledge of Spanish suggests he called him a cunt again.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: the on January 07, 2021, 11:42:07 AM
My limited knowledge of Spanish suggests he called him a cunt again.

I don't know any Spanish at all, but even I got that far with the translation :)
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Mobbd on January 07, 2021, 04:18:02 PM
Was looking forward to popping this on after hearing Sayle%u2019s lovely passionate socialism on his own pod, but not sure I can take Herring%u2019s centrist dad equivocating, which sounds like it%u2019s out in full effect?

I wouldn't say to full effect exactly. The politics chat is confined to a ten-minute chunk about two thirds of the way through. Herring says something vague about "not agreeing with everything" Alexie says but Alexei doesn't quite pick up on it.

I don't think either of them were really interested in talking politics in this chat: Herring was probably frightened of insulting a godfather of comedy or being slammed by a better-informed political thinker; while Alexei was mainly just there to plug his podcast. Moreover, Alexei probably isn't familiar with Herring's feeble anti-Corbyn mumblings.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: frajer on January 07, 2021, 05:35:14 PM
Ta folks.

I find Herring hit and miss these days but in the RHLSTPs when he gets onto politics he becomes actively irritating in his beigeness. I suppose he is friends with Emma Kennedy though so he could be far bloody worse.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Mobbd on January 07, 2021, 08:15:08 PM
Ta folks.

I find Herring hit and miss these days but in the RHLSTPs when he gets onto politics he becomes actively irritating in his beigeness. I suppose he is friends with Emma Kennedy though so he could be far bloody worse.

I have long loved Richard Herring and I will always be there for his stuff. Always! But I know what you mean about his being hit-and-miss these days and I was saddened by his anti-Corbyn stance. I do see where he was coming from (wanting to be reasonable and to leave the room when there was so much shouting going on) but he zigged when he should have zagged. Corbyn was the business. I remember when Herring said on Collings and Herrin that he'd stopped voting Labour under Blair and had taken to voting Green (I'd done the same and felt on the same page as him). It's not that your favourite comedians have to have the same beliefs as you. It was just nice when I thought we had a politics in common.

None of this is Herring's fault, but I find the Zoom incarnation of RHLSTP barely watchable. I'm just so tired of seeing people at desks or in front of green screens, with variable sound quality, inexplicably stopping to eat and drink. Not blaming anyone at all for the format (needs must), but I just can't stand it.

I get the desire (though it's perhaps a bit egotistic) to want to provide new content for people in lockdown (an 'entertaining the troops' sort of attitude) but we do still have thousands of hours of high-quality pre-pandemic stuff to enjoy or re-enjoy on Netflix and whatnot, not to mention books and music.

I also don't think I share his idea that his outsider art productions (snooker, stone clearing) are up to much and his Ally and Herring thing has been off the rails for ages. I do wonder what he thinks of the 2,000 views he gets for these rather than the 200,000 hey used to get.

Still love him though. We'll always have the vintage RHLSTP to enjoy and all of his other old stuff. And he'll do good stuff again, I've little doubt.

Anyway, sorry, this thread is about Alexei Sayle!
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: olliebean on January 10, 2021, 04:57:41 PM
Another bike ride video due at 8pm tonight.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: easytarget on January 10, 2021, 05:06:00 PM
Anyone here read his novel Overtaken?

I felt that the short stories in Barcelona Plates are closer to him comic voice, but it's really rather good if a bit mid 2000s, but that's going to happen.
I've read his three proper novels and his short stories. While I don't remember any specific details* (not a knock on him, I just read them ages ago), I definitely preferred the short stories.

*Except for "The Pies" graffiti on the bridge over the East Lancs in Overtaken
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: frajer on January 10, 2021, 07:07:56 PM
I've read his three proper novels and his short stories. While I don't remember any specific details* (not a knock on him, I just read them ages ago), I definitely preferred the short stories.

I read Sayle’s short story collections years ago as well, must be over a decade now (christ) and enjoyed them a lot too.

The one that really sticks in my mind is the OAP who becomes a hitman. Won’t say more in case anyone fancies a read, but it unfolds brilliantly.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: tribalfusion on January 11, 2021, 06:05:02 AM
I wouldn't say to full effect exactly. The politics chat is confined to a ten-minute chunk about two thirds of the way through. Herring says something vague about "not agreeing with everything" Alexie says but Alexei doesn't quite pick up on it.

I don't think either of them were really interested in talking politics in this chat: Herring was probably frightened of insulting a godfather of comedy or being slammed by a better-informed political thinker; while Alexei was mainly just there to plug his podcast. Moreover, Alexei probably isn't familiar with Herring's feeble anti-Corbyn mumblings.


There's a bit more about politics at the end at around 1 hour and 3 minutes in and it's absolute trash from Herring.  I had a hard time listening to the interview due to Herring whom I actually like(d) in some regards. Just very sad to hear him with his 'blame on all sides' nonsense and wanting to make the left out to be problematic.

How many times did Herring say 'I don't agree with everything you say/believe but'? Rich never bothers to say that for any centrist or right wing hacks.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Pink Gregory on January 11, 2021, 07:10:20 AM
Right, that's because he actually agrees with them.  Either that or he has that liberal affliction of being in what he considers the centre and therefore above politics and a member of the 'grown-ups in the room'.

It's completed soured Herring for me because he used to be someone who I considered to have at least some insight, which fed so much into his comedy.  I can't really resolve his comic immaturity, pedantry and knowing ridiculousness with liberal centrism, and that's a shame.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: frajer on January 11, 2021, 09:31:49 AM
Finally got round to listening to this one last night. Would have to agree that Herring comes across poorly, not just for his mealy-mouthed handling of the politics side, but also it was quite a boring interview in general.

I think partly it's the Zoom set-up but chiefly the questions he was asking seemed to go nowhere and as a result Sayle didn't seem engaged. Felt like overhearing a pub catch-up between two old friends who didn't have a huge amount to say to each other.

I also think because it has been so refreshing to hear Sayle's savage and eloquent passion on his own pod, it was even more disappointing to hear Herring park his arse so firmly on the fence. "I think on some level we're all to blame" should not be a phrase uttered in seriousness during the current shitshow this country's suffering.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Pink Gregory on January 11, 2021, 10:08:09 AM
Hoping he goes on the Adam Buxton pod at some point.  I know comedians interviewing comedians is beyond hack at this point, but Buckles is a better interviewer and I always find Alexei entertaining.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on January 11, 2021, 02:44:11 PM
The conversation between Alexei and Stewart Lee about his "Thatcher Stole My Trousers" book is worth a look if anyone hasn't seen it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkOvwsyBMDc

Had to switch off the Herring one after a couple of minutes, wasn't in the mood for him at all.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: tribalfusion on January 11, 2021, 07:04:14 PM
Right, that's because he actually agrees with them.  Either that or he has that liberal affliction of being in what he considers the centre and therefore above politics and a member of the 'grown-ups in the room'.

It's completed soured Herring for me because he used to be someone who I considered to have at least some insight, which fed so much into his comedy.  I can't really resolve his comic immaturity, pedantry and knowing ridiculousness with liberal centrism, and that's a shame.

Sure, I think Herring does mostly agree with the centrists and if Sayle weren't famous and 'important' Herring would take more of his usual cheap shots where this is concerned.

I too am completely soured on Herring and think he's mostly a hack these days. The nerve and idiocy required to say 'we are all responsible' is breathtaking.

Maybe it would be more interesting to think of other comedians who might be better suited to engage Sayle in intelligent conversation like Rob Newman and Mark Thomas or people like Lee Camp or Ted Alexandro from the US.

Are there any younger left comedians (younger than those I mentioned) people on here would like to see interact with Sayle etc?
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on February 24, 2021, 08:32:49 PM
New podcast with Stewart Lee out now. About an hour and twenty mins.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: beanheadmcginty on February 24, 2021, 09:12:59 PM
Enjoyable dig at Herring near the beginning from Lee in this
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: EOLAN on February 24, 2021, 09:46:16 PM
Loving anytime Lee discusses old pre WW1 comedians. Seems to have a different anecdote for each podcast lately.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: McFlymo on February 24, 2021, 10:11:25 PM
Enjoyable dig at Herring near the beginning from Lee in this

Came here to post this!

Loving anytime Lee discusses old pre WW1 comedians. Seems to have a different anecdote for each podcast lately.

Have just been looking into Fred Barnes. Fascinating stuff.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: beanheadmcginty on February 24, 2021, 10:39:58 PM
Now I've finished it I must say this was an absolute delight to listen to from start to finish.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: petrilTanaka on February 24, 2021, 11:26:01 PM
Loving anytime Lee discusses old pre WW1 comedians. Seems to have a different anecdote for each podcast lately.

I like the juxtaposition of what both he and Herring are doing now. a sort of "this is Lee Evans... and this is Norman Wisdom on acid" thing
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Mobbd on February 25, 2021, 06:04:22 PM
Enjoyable dig at Herring near the beginning from Lee in this

It was a most enjoyable dig! (Albeit a little unfair. I think Herring does his research, though understandably probably not for Stew.)

What a fab pod though, eh? I've been enjoying this self-generated promotional junket of Stew's. I daresay there are loads of other appearances I've missed and that they will pop up in my various feedcatchers further down the line, probably years from now. Good stuff.

And since King Rocker has already been broadcast, he was far more free to talk to Alexei about other things AND to reflect on the film's success and his appearances on various pods.

That he and Alexei clearly hold each other in high regard helped too. Though it became a bit lovey towards the middle, Stew remembered the lesson of critical Dr Buckles and gave Alexei a bit of shit. And it was very fucking funny.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 25, 2021, 06:17:57 PM
Yeah, that was really enjoyable. Two great comedians with mutual respect just shooting the breeze and being funny.

As Mobbd says, it's a fab podcast in general. Alexei is clearly relishing the opportunity to speak his big sharp Marxist mind about politics and comedy. Also, at one point during a previous episode he mentioned that he'd be up for devoting an entire episode to listener's questions about The Young Ones - that should be fascinating. And I just love the fact that he's still so politically engaged and angry; I find that strangely comforting. He still cares.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: extraordinary walnuts on February 25, 2021, 06:41:58 PM
Good episode - very enjoyable to hear Stew making Alexei crack up like that.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: gib on February 25, 2021, 07:06:17 PM
i'm no doubt being stupid but could somebody please remind me how to just download an episode as an mp3?
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 25, 2021, 07:19:28 PM
I remember that incident with the snake at the British Comedy Awards. Like Stew, I can't actually remember who brought it out on stage or why, but it really was fucking horrible - a terrified creature being exploited for the whooping amusement of a room full of inebriated media twats.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: olliebean on February 25, 2021, 08:11:33 PM
i'm no doubt being stupid but could somebody please remind me how to just download an episode as an mp3?

This page has download links in the 3-dot menus for each episode: https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-alexei-sayle-podcast-the-alexei-sayle-qSG4I9gcJjA/
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Mobbd on February 25, 2021, 08:44:49 PM
I remember that incident with the snake at the British Comedy Awards. Like Stew, I can't actually remember who brought it out on stage or why, but it really was fucking horrible - a terrified creature being exploited for the whooping amusement of a room full of inebriated media twats.

Hiya Ballad. I didn't remember the snake myself but do you think it was this moment from 2006? It was someone from I'm a Celebrity by the looks of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Uo5DLLrQg
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: pigamus on February 25, 2021, 09:10:12 PM
Interesting what he said about Owen Jones - didn’t sound like he was too impressed.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: gib on February 25, 2021, 09:12:57 PM
This page has download links in the 3-dot menus for each episode: https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-alexei-sayle-podcast-the-alexei-sayle-qSG4I9gcJjA/

brilliant, thanks
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 25, 2021, 09:25:20 PM
Hiya Ballad. I didn't remember the snake myself but do you think it was this moment from 2006? It was someone from I'm a Celebrity by the looks of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Uo5DLLrQg

That's it, yes. Blatant animal cruelty.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 25, 2021, 09:28:06 PM
Interesting what he said about Owen Jones - didn’t sound like he was too impressed.

Sayle suggested that Jones might not put that episode out, but I'd love to hear it.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: pigamus on February 25, 2021, 09:38:33 PM
I think this is it
https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=763996933693821&story_fbid=3782106558549495
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Mobbd on February 25, 2021, 09:51:17 PM
Sayle suggested that Jones might not put that episode out, but I'd love to hear it.

Same here.

Sayle described the Guardian as a "stinking establishment organ" in one (or possibly two) of the early episodes of his podcast. I suspect (though who knows?) that was at the core of the problem. Owen can be very defensive about the G, with "you'll miss it when it's gone" type lines.

He's no radical either; I remember him disagreeing with Russell Brand about revolution (not that I think Brand was right, just that Owen didn't seem moved by the concept at all). He was pro-Corbyn, of course, but I suspect he'd be pro-bucket-on-a-stick if it was the leader of the Labour party, which of course he is now!
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: pigamus on February 25, 2021, 10:00:58 PM
https://www.owenjones.tv/video/alexei-sayle-theres-a-mccarthyite-assault-on-jeremy-corbyn-and-the-left/
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: EOLAN on February 25, 2021, 11:26:29 PM
It is about 18 minutes into the Jones interview that the debate gets heated. Sayle being quite forthright and direct. Jones trying to skirt around the issue. Spending a lot of time to say little.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Mobbd on February 26, 2021, 04:44:55 PM
It is about 18 minutes into the Jones interview that the debate gets heated. Sayle being quite forthright and direct. Jones trying to skirt around the issue. Spending a lot of time to say little.

Heh. I'm 5 mins in and Alexei is clearly already bored and irritated by Owen's Ollie Plimsolls presenting style.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Egyptian Feast on February 26, 2021, 04:54:58 PM
Heh. I'm 5 mins in and Alexei is clearly already bored and irritated by Owen's Ollie Plimsolls presenting style.

Ouch. I don't mind Jones, but that comparison is sadly apt and will haunt me.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: easytarget on February 26, 2021, 11:28:24 PM
Also, at one point during a previous episode he mentioned that he'd be up for devoting an entire episode to listener's questions about The Young Ones - that should be fascinating.

He also mentioned the possibility of an episode focused on the Golden Girls spin-off "The Golden Palace". There's loads of stories from comics on podcasts about sitcoms but I'd love to hear this.

The S Lee one was magnificent.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: imitationleather on February 26, 2021, 11:39:09 PM
Ollie Plimsolls presenting style.

Fuck me that is so bang on.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on February 27, 2021, 12:38:19 AM
I didn’t know this was a thing and am very excited to listen to it.

Had a flashback to being about 7 and watching Hullo John Got a New Motor (must have snuck down and watched telly after dark?) and sort of being amazed by the mad/funny/silliness of it all. I realize now it is still as anarchic and great as I thought it was back then and was searching to see what Sayle was up to now.

A podcast fan (and an early S Lee adopter) means I’m right on fucking board for this project. Lovely job.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 27, 2021, 08:31:57 AM
I think this is it
https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=763996933693821&story_fbid=3782106558549495

Ta!
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: pigamus on February 27, 2021, 08:47:57 AM
Nae bother

Golden Palace story might be a bit depressing considering Estelle Getty pretty much had dementia by that stage
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 27, 2021, 09:11:04 AM
It's great. "Come on, justify the Labour Party to me!"
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: frajer on February 27, 2021, 10:14:56 AM
Fuck, loved that.

One of the very few silver linings of the pandemic is that it’s brought Alexei Sayle firmly into the podding and interview world. We clearly need his passionate and articulate fury more than ever.

Highlight: Owen Jones’ line-toeing about how the Labour Party must have a “two-pronged approach” of staying true to the working class while also building parliamentary pressure, Sayle taking a second to mull that and then deadpanning: “And how’s that working out for you?”
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Consignia on February 27, 2021, 02:53:20 PM
Was a really great podcast, really enjoyed it.

I missed the Herring dig, though. Where was it?
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 27, 2021, 03:11:57 PM
Was a really great podcast, really enjoyed it.

I missed the Herring dig, though. Where was it?

At the very start, when Lee said that Herring's podcast was the first one he'd ever appeared on. I'm paraphrasing, but the gist of what he said was: "And for ages that's what I thought they were all like - being interviewed by a man who talks about himself all the time and who has done no research into your career."

So it was a friendly, jokey dig really.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Consignia on February 27, 2021, 03:46:32 PM
Cheers. I know I listened to the bit that was in, but I really can't recall hearing that.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Ptolemy Ptarmigan on February 27, 2021, 03:48:34 PM
Yes, I agree it's just lighthearted ribbing - and he laughed later at Herring's comment about Sayle's best stand-up of 2020 award. Pretty sure they're still pals despite their differences.

Anyway, here's my favourite photo of Alexei Sayle... unless you know different, subtle wink.

(https://i.imgur.com/mYujhEH.jpg)
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Mobbd on February 27, 2021, 06:25:43 PM
Ouch. I don't mind Jones, but that comparison is sadly apt and will haunt me.

Fuck me that is so bang on.

I GOT NOTICED BY FEASTY AND IMITATION LEATHER!

Highlight: Owen Jones%u2019 line-toeing about how the Labour Party must have a %u201Ctwo-pronged approach%u201D of staying true to the working class while also building parliamentary pressure, Sayle taking a second to mull that and then deadpanning: %u201CAnd how%u2019s that working out for you?%u201D

Funnily enough, his dismissing of Russell Brand's revolutionary musings (which I mentioned earlier in the thread) involved this exact phrase. Brand was saying that Milliband's Labour Party wasn't worth wasting time on because (a) any party toils under a corrupt and broken political/parliamentary system and (b) there's no point winning on the Red Tory ticket. Good points both, IMHO, even if they came from a very silly person. I distinctly remember Owen using the "two pronged approach" phrase as a way to keep the on-the-air peace without engaging properly with the proposal.

I'm generally on board with Jones. Well, about 50-60% on board. But given the number of pretty intelligent columns he's written, it's a bit crap that he didn't have answers to Alexei's important questions. Particularly delicious was Alexei's informed citing of specific Jewish (including one Israeli) activists being bounced from the Labour Party on antisemetism charges and his direct "what are your thoughts on that?" to Owen who just blustered.

Owen seems to want to keep things light, but... it's a politics podcast. Not the National Lottery Live.

Ollie Plimsolls! More love pls, thx.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: sutin on February 27, 2021, 07:24:52 PM
This page has download links in the 3-dot menus for each episode: https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-alexei-sayle-podcast-the-alexei-sayle-qSG4I9gcJjA/

Thank you so much for this. I always download podcasts manually as mp3s so Last.fm picks them up.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: monkfromhavana on February 27, 2021, 09:28:33 PM
Alexei: "The problem of anti-semitism was greatly exaggerated and weaponised, don't you think?"

Owen: "No, I disagree"<5 mins of blather>, "and let's not forget that it's a tiny minority who are engaged in anti-semitism, I can't emphasize that enough"

Alexei "So you agree that it was exaggerated"

Owen "Well, no, because...."
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: zomgmouse on March 02, 2021, 02:55:35 AM
Are there any younger left comedians (younger than those I mentioned) people on here would like to see interact with Sayle etc?

me
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: pancreas on March 02, 2021, 03:48:01 AM
They're all politically vapid, aren't they, the new ones? Know which way their bread is buttered if they want to start/keep doing tv. i.e. Don't call the tories cunts, or the establishment, which is now operated exclusively by them, will have you quietly suppressed. Bit like blackballing unionists.

I'm afraid I don't really know any new unknown political columnists. Very rarely hear standup. I get the feeling everything Sayle did had a political bent, at some level. Mark Thomas would be alright to squirt the squits with, for an hour. What we really need is to get CM in there with him, and we all know it.

They like their panel shows, or family friendly sitcoms, the BBC. That's how you get a career in comedy. Notable exception of That Country.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Pink Gregory on March 07, 2021, 04:24:40 PM
Good interview with Alexei by Mark Seddon for Palestine Deep Dive

https://youtu.be/avNLYwQchRw
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Lost Oliver on March 11, 2021, 08:57:33 AM
me

I love you zomg x
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Lost Oliver on March 11, 2021, 08:58:22 AM
And thanks all for introducing me to this pod. Never thought I'd get on board with a Sayle podcast but here I am. I feel like I've dsicovered treasure or something.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Retinend on March 11, 2021, 09:14:31 AM
Good interview with Alexei by Mark Seddon for Palestine Deep Dive

https://youtu.be/avNLYwQchRw

Right off the bat he characterizes the Israel-Palestine issue as "a very clear-cut wrong" on behalf of the Israelis, i.e. that it's not even a complex issue where there is right and wrong on both sides. What do you make of that?
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: phantom_power on March 11, 2021, 09:36:07 AM
I enjoy his podcast but he fucking butchered that Bob Dylan anecdote. Three times
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: zomgmouse on March 12, 2021, 12:31:42 AM
I love you zomg x

back atcha L.O.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: easytarget on March 12, 2021, 04:11:02 AM
I enjoy his podcast but he fucking butchered that Bob Dylan anecdote. Three times
Love how it never had a good ending. Hope he does it next time.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: mr. logic on March 12, 2021, 05:44:59 AM
I was surprised by Lee (just about) self-identifying as a ‘centrist’.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: tribalfusion on March 15, 2021, 07:34:59 PM
They're all politically vapid, aren't they, the new ones? Know which way their bread is buttered if they want to start/keep doing tv. i.e. Don't call the tories cunts, or the establishment, which is now operated exclusively by them, will have you quietly suppressed. Bit like blackballing unionists.

I'm afraid I don't really know any new unknown political columnists. Very rarely hear standup. I get the feeling everything Sayle did had a political bent, at some level. Mark Thomas would be alright to squirt the squits with, for an hour. What we really need is to get CM in there with him, and we all know it.

They like their panel shows, or family friendly sitcoms, the BBC. That's how you get a career in comedy. Notable exception of That Country.

I would generally agree that those are the trends. However in terms of younger (at least relative to Sayle, Newman or Thomas) more politicized comedians on the left in the UK context I would think of Matthew Alford, Josie Long (at least to some extent), Joe Wells, Tom Mayhew and perhaps a few others.

I'd love to learn about others I may have missed.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: MigraineBoy on March 17, 2021, 07:20:44 PM
The Stewart Lee ep had an anecdote about a comedian with a brother who works a senior for Apple, who was the catalyst for the “content provider” title.
A Horne Section podcast had an American Vlogger / musician / comic as a guest and in it Alex put some questions to the guest that his tech company employee brother had suggested.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Stone Cold Steve Austin on March 17, 2021, 07:37:04 PM
I thought his brother worked at youtube?
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: MigraineBoy on March 17, 2021, 08:10:49 PM
I thought his brother worked at youtube?

Ah, perhaps your right & I misremembered. Just with Stewart mentioning Alex recently when Taskmaster was brought up had be putting 2 + 2 together and coming up with 5.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Mr_Simnock on March 23, 2021, 10:50:05 PM
Another superb offering out today
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: thugler on March 24, 2021, 02:32:22 PM
I was surprised by Lee (just about) self-identifying as a ‘centrist’.
Dunno what he meant by that really. He just said people had started to presume he was a 'centralist', 'that's what they call you now isn't it'.
The term centrist is a bit overused at the moment.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: frajer on April 17, 2021, 08:40:58 AM
Another lovely lockdown cycle added to his YouTube channel. One of my favourite things to do pre-pandemic if I had a weekend on my own was to nip into London for an aimless wander so this is basically porn at this point.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Mr_Simnock on May 03, 2021, 12:21:32 AM
Another podcast and bike ride now up for your fun and entertainment since this thread last updated.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on May 11, 2021, 06:12:16 PM
Lots of lovely anti-Starmer vitriol in the latest episode.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Pink Gregory on May 11, 2021, 07:17:17 PM
Has a Patreon now, no extra content, but hopefully means it can keep getting made.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Mobbd on May 12, 2021, 10:57:09 AM
Has a Patreon now, no extra content, but hopefully means it can keep getting made.

My feelings about Alexeipod are largely positive but he/they have the neck of hell asking for money for it. It doesn't really have a format yet, there's no schedule, barely any production. It's simply not a professional-quality thing.

About 5 times in the latest episode they alight very briefly on interesting subjects (cognitive dissonance, his role in Indiana Jones, etc) and put them off for the next episode for some reason (and who knows when that will be) before hitting a woeful 35-minute run-time.

I liked the Starmer-bashing very much. My feelings precisely. I liked his comment about how he'd been knocking Starmer since November and now everyone on the street know's he's a cunt. Haha.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Glitch King on May 12, 2021, 07:14:00 PM
🥋
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: olliebean on May 12, 2021, 08:49:22 PM
What does everyone think about the other guy (his producer, I think) on the podcast? I understand that the thing wouldn't exist at all without him, but honestly, I'd sooner just listen to Alexei talk, without him chipping in and trying to make it more what his idea of a podcast is. I mention it now because it seemed to come across fairly clearly that the Patreon is his initiative, and that a major reason for it is that he wants to get paid.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Satchmo Distel on May 12, 2021, 11:07:29 PM
Right off the bat he characterizes the Israel-Palestine issue as "a very clear-cut wrong" on behalf of the Israelis, i.e. that it's not even a complex issue where there is right and wrong on both sides. What do you make of that?

He shared a flat with Palestinian activists way back in 1971 who gave him personal accounts of torture which have clearly stayed with him.

More worryingly, it may have been Alexei who gave Lenny Henry the Kantanga catchphrase.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Tokyo van Ramming on May 12, 2021, 11:50:09 PM
What does everyone think about the other guy (his producer, I think) on the podcast? I understand that the thing wouldn't exist at all without him, but honestly, I'd sooner just listen to Alexei talk, without him chipping in and trying to make it more what his idea of a podcast is. I mention it now because it seemed to come across fairly clearly that the Patreon is his initiative, and that a major reason for it is that he wants to get paid.

You should probably just hire Alexei then, or marry him.

Imagine being paid for work you do, eeee!

Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: SpiderChrist on May 13, 2021, 06:41:22 AM
What does everyone think about the other guy (his producer, I think) on the podcast? I understand that the thing wouldn't exist at all without him, but honestly, I'd sooner just listen to Alexei talk, without him chipping in and trying to make it more what his idea of a podcast is. I mention it now because it seemed to come across fairly clearly that the Patreon is his initiative, and that a major reason for it is that he wants to get paid.

What a cunt.

The way I heard it (because it was explicitly said) is that all the costs like editing and mastering (and probably even paying for the producer’s time) come out of Sayle’s pocket and the only alternative is taking ads.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: olliebean on May 13, 2021, 06:52:47 PM
Alexei did say something like, this'll probably keep happening even if we don't get the money, so I guess he doesn't mind too much paying out of pocket for it. I mean, obviously I don't begrudge people getting paid for their work; it just feels to me like there's a bit of a tension in the podcast (not necessarily in the relationship between the two of them, but in the format of the podcast itself) between on the one hand, a laid-back guy who's just happy to talk about whatever and usually has something fascinating to say about it, and on the other hand the producer who's got ideas about what a podcast should be and thinks someone just talking with no particular format isn't enough. In and of itself, Patreon seems like a good way to pay for the work of the people involved (including him), but in the context of that tension it definitely felt like it came from him feeling that podcasts should be monetised, as opposed to Alexei who's not that bothered.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: evilcommiedictator on May 14, 2021, 02:51:21 AM
How much out of pocket can it be for something like this (asking genuinely, not for criticism) - hosting fees and paying your audio engineer, plus your mic and gear?
I imagine a lot of people download it, so the hosting fees are probably eye watering?
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Mr_Simnock on May 14, 2021, 10:46:20 AM
How much out of pocket can it be for something like this (asking genuinely, not for criticism) - hosting fees and paying your audio engineer, plus your mic and gear?
I imagine a lot of people download it, so the hosting fees are probably eye watering?

The podcast is hosted by Audioboom, didn't he get some money for going with them in first place? They could use that cash to pay for some of the above no?
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on June 03, 2021, 01:18:14 AM
The latest episode is a 90 minute special with Omid Djalili. I'm only thirty minutes in, but already there's been loads of interesting chat about the early days of The Comedy Store and The Comic Strip, a period when Robin Williams - a big Alexei fan, according to Omid - would sometimes drop in to perform impromptu sets.

There's a nice bit where Alexei says he was absolutely blown away and threatened by Williams' ability to manically improvise, until he eventually realised that Williams had about three gag-packed hours of material that he'd work around. Which is obvious in hindsight, of course he wasn't making all that stuff up off the top of his head, but Alexei admits that, in those days, he had no idea of how stand-up really worked.

There's also a lovely moment where they recall Williams genuinely improvising a successful bit and saying to them afterwards: "I need to write that down!"
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Sonny_Jim on June 03, 2021, 01:51:11 AM
Has Alexei ever talked about the time he starred in the Mel Brooks Sci-Fi bomb 'Solarbabies'?
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on June 03, 2021, 01:57:10 AM
No, but he probably will at some point. He's more than happy to talk about some of the shite he's appeared in.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Mobbd on June 03, 2021, 10:04:47 AM
There's a nice bit where Alexei says he was absolutely blown away and threatened by Williams' ability to manically improvise, until he eventually realised that Williams had about three gag-packed hours of material that he'd work around. Which is obvious in hindsight, of course he wasn't making all that stuff up off the top of his head, but Alexei admits that, in those days, he had no idea of how stand-up really worked.

There's also a lovely moment where they recall Williams genuinely improvising a successful bit and saying to them afterwards: "I need to write that down!"


"Flubber."
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: non capisco on June 03, 2021, 10:33:21 AM
No, but he probably will at some point. He's more than happy to talk about some of the shite he's appeared in.

I need to see that episode of Lovejoy he talks about now. OH MOI GAWWWWD LOVEJOY, YOU'VE PAID 'OW MUCH FERRA TOILET?!!!!
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Sonny_Jim on June 03, 2021, 11:48:55 AM
It's best when he pops up without warning, rather than seeking out the appearances.  Here's the bit when he pops up in Solarbabies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ1bfkCtdW0
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Leej88 on June 03, 2021, 01:08:33 PM
What about the awful Carry on Columbus?
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on June 03, 2021, 01:09:44 PM
What about the awful Carry on Columbus?

What about it?
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Leej88 on June 03, 2021, 01:11:20 PM
Will he talk about it.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on June 03, 2021, 01:14:18 PM
Of course, why wouldn't he? It was even mentioned briefly in the latest episode. He thinks it's shit.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: paruses on June 04, 2021, 12:09:46 PM
I need to see that episode of Lovejoy he talks about now. OH MOI GAWWWWD LOVEJOY, YOU'VE PAID 'OW MUCH FERRA TOILET?!!!!

All of Lovejoy is on UKTV Drama if you want to seek it out. I watch and enjoy a lot more of it than I should.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: MoreauVasz on June 05, 2021, 07:12:34 AM
I thought this last one was really interesting...

My perception of Alexei is that he was someone who was a big wheel down at the alternative comedy mines in the 1980s who parlayed that into a few TV series and a few small acting gigs before he moved on to become an author. I found it quite easy to square this with the politics as alternative comedy and fiction don't tend to demand that their practitioners be a particular way. You could be a foul-mouthed communist and still write the odd novel and play a middle Eastern baddie in something because nobody gives a shit.

This strikes me as really very different to a lot of TV and acting where you live by your connections and so tend to drift into being a particular type of person in order to fit in. Big pressure to talk about 'Darling Johnny Sessions' and to keep your mouth shut about politics.

The podcast has caused me to revise my vision of Alexei. I think it's pretty clear that while he hasn't always been visible, he has spent his entire life bollocks deep in showbiz and he has the celebrity friends and anecdotes that reflect that. This last episode was interesting as he effortlessly fell into the role of the somewhat embittered old celeb who is very mindful of his status and his dignity. Someone who plays the game and watches the angles.

I think the podcast started off with Sayles assuming the role of the bemused outsider but you can see the wry showbiz courtier struggling to get out and I suspect that is a lot closer to how he lives his life.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: notjosh on June 05, 2021, 01:39:16 PM
Funny you should say that. I haven't listened to the latest ep, but just came to share something I found in Matthew Wright's showbiz column while going through some old editions of the Daily Mirror. He found Sayle somewhat unwelcoming at Angus Deayton's birthday party:

(https://i.imgur.com/uZSqQKa.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/35avCkh.png)
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: MoreauVasz on June 05, 2021, 05:48:48 PM
The energy of that column is awful. Like a PCP-fueled fever dream.

On the one hand it seems to be sneering at successful comedians for having lavish birthday parties. Then it seems to imply that the party was shit. Then it's crowing about Wright sneaking into the party. Then it's mocking the people who didn't want to talk to him as well as the people who did.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: beanheadmcginty on June 05, 2021, 08:16:20 PM
I already liked Alexei Sayle, but now I know he's told Matthew Wright to fuck off he's gone up another level in my estimation.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: petrilTanaka on June 05, 2021, 10:46:31 PM
that Party Lines bit reads spookily like it could've been an actual Alexei Sayle bit
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: poodlefaker on June 06, 2021, 12:54:39 PM
I think the podcast started off with Sayles assuming the role of the bemused outsider but you can see the wry showbiz courtier struggling to get out and I suspect that is a lot closer to how he lives his life.

This occured to me in that interview he did with Stewart Lee, in which he seemed genuinely shocked that Lee had never been to a dinner party.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: zomgmouse on June 17, 2021, 11:34:47 AM
Funny you should say that. I haven't listened to the latest ep, but just came to share something I found in Matthew Wright's showbiz column while going through some old editions of the Daily Mirror. He found Sayle somewhat unwelcoming at Angus Deayton's birthday party:

(https://i.imgur.com/uZSqQKa.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/35avCkh.png)

I too would be "unwelcoming" if a snivelling rag-pen gobshite gatecrashed a friend's party. He sounds like mould.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Mobbd on June 22, 2021, 12:39:26 PM
Aha. This just dropped.

"A is for Anarchy."

One hour.

Now we're cooking.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Mobbd on June 22, 2021, 04:54:23 PM
Now we're cooking.

Actually, it's not very good. I was expecting a palatable, witty introduction to Anarchism. Alas, it's an into-the-weeds political history of Spain with a disappointingly-conservative LSE politics professor. He keeps ignoring Alexei's pleas to get back to basics and tell the kids at home what Anarchism is.

Feels like the kind of thing Adam Buxton wouldn't bother to put out or else keep in the bank until he found a solution in the edit.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: olliebean on June 22, 2021, 06:55:25 PM
Looking forward to when he reaches "L".
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Pink Gregory on June 22, 2021, 08:02:00 PM
L is for Lenin
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Drygate on June 23, 2021, 10:37:38 AM
This occured to me in that interview he did with Stewart Lee, in which he seemed genuinely shocked that Lee had never been to a dinner party.
And he said he had been to thousands of them, or was it hosted thousands of them? Can't remember.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: mr. logic on June 23, 2021, 12:30:36 PM
The producer on this just doesn’t seem to get what he’s doing there. They don’t mesh at all.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Mobbd on June 23, 2021, 01:17:07 PM
The producer on this just doesn’t seem to get what he’s doing there. They don’t mesh at all.

It's a shame. He seems like a nice chap and I really want to like him. But he's not entertaining at all; Alexei doesn't know what to say to his kindly but nothingy remarks. Why does he give that Lego guy even a moment of air time at the end of this episode? Who cares? His vision for the show is so tiny.

"I've got no comedy for my gig tonight! I've written nothing all lockdown!"
Alexei: Um. Okay.

Felt a bit bad for him in the chat with Omid Djalili. Producer had a somewhat interesting anecdote about how he and his family provided vocal noises ("Arg!" etc) for The Mummy but Omid just shut him down. Maybe Omid was right that Producer Guy's voice just isn't welcome in a conversation between comedy giants with actual stories; but it was a bit harsh and ironically this was the one time he had something to say!

I want to like him.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Drygate on June 23, 2021, 02:18:44 PM
I guess it's just one bald guy helping another bald guy out.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: olliebean on June 23, 2021, 09:48:14 PM
This occured to me in that interview he did with Stewart Lee, in which he seemed genuinely shocked that Lee had never been to a dinner party.

Unless you count Sunday lunches I was dragged along to when I was a child, I've only ever been to one dinner party, and it was a not entirely unironic one.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: McFlymo on June 23, 2021, 10:09:37 PM
I like Talal.
I am chuffed that together, he and Alexei are breaking the podcast mould by, on the one side, not giving a fuck about the form or success of it and on the other, not particularly gelling with, or understanding the main character's style or vibe.

It's make for subtle but enjoyable calamity.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on June 23, 2021, 11:12:29 PM
I agree. It's a refreshingly unusual podcast in the sense that it doesn't really have a format, and the host is quite sceptical about - yet cautiously intrigued by - the whole thing. The fact that the host is a brilliant, politically engaged comedian who doesn't give a fuck about challenging safe centrist values is obviously a major selling point.

And that interview with the professor chap, which I enjoyed, illustrated that Alexei is open to having his own views challenged. Listening to Alexei expounding upon his thoughts while chatting to interesting people is A Good Thing.

As for Talal, he's a nice chap who is obviously not on Alexei's wavelength. But I think their low-key dynamic works. It's slightly awkward at times, but not in an unpleasant way. And it's not as if they're a double-act - Talal leaves Alexei to his own devices for the most part.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Sonny_Jim on June 24, 2021, 09:46:26 AM
I haven't listened to the latest one, but I don't mind the awkwardness too much.  Althetico Mince took a while to hit it's stride and I'm hoping Alexei gets his head around it a bit more, although it is nice to hear him just ramble on about stuff.
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: phantom_power on June 24, 2021, 10:27:48 AM
It is a free podcast from someone who doesn't seem to like or understand podcasts. We should be grateful that it is in any way listenable
Title: Re: The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Post by: Smeraldina Rima on June 24, 2021, 10:17:48 PM
Loving anytime Lee discusses old pre WW1 comedians. Seems to have a different anecdote for each podcast lately.

Have just been looking into Fred Barnes. Fascinating stuff.

Lee mentioned that John Mackay told him his mother had told him about a comedian who would sing "Danny Boy" as his arms got imperceptibly longer. According to this article, the comedian's name was Sandy Powell and the song was "Sonny Boy".

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The star with a surprise up his sleeve 1 April 2011 Daily Mail

QUESTION Who was the singer/ comic who would stretch out his arms as he sang? They would get longer and longer as his sleeves revealed artificial hands on wooden rods.

SANDY POWELL from Rotherham was one of the great comics and panto stars of the Thirties, Forties and Fifties, who was still making TV appearances in the Seventies.

He also appeared in several films, such as Sandy The Fireman (1930), Can You Hear Me, Mother? (1935), I've Got A Horse (1938) and Cup-Tie Honeymoon (1948). He was born in 1900, as Albert Arthur Powell, but nicknamed 'Sandy' because of his ginger hair. He travelled with his mother — a variety performer named Lily le Maine — around England and began to sing and perform on stage as a young boy.

He moved towards comedy and impressions, often performing as an incompetent ventriloquist (he had an hilarious routine where his dummy would fall apart) or in a kilt as a Scottish comedian. Sandy's catchphrase was: 'Can you hear me, mother?' It came from one of his acts in which he would talk to his deaf mother on the phone.

Awarded an MBE in 1975, Powell still performed in Sussex (to where he had retired) until his death in 1982. He would perform his 'long arm' act while singing the Al Jolson hit Sonny Boy. His arms got longer and longer after each verse. The audience loved it.
H. Middlemiss, Seaham, Co. Durham.

I RECALL Sandy Powell doing his 'long-arm' act during an hysterical guest spot on the Sooty Show in about 1970. Back in those days, Sooty was not so much a puppet act as a full-on variety show. Powell's act would certainly not be allowed today because he appeared 'blacked up' singing Sonny Boy. He waved his arms about as he did so, with them getting longer and longer until he could eventually scratch his ankle when standing up straight. This move was carried out with such deft comic timing that it reduced many members of the accompanying Alan Braden Orchestra to helpless laughter, which could clearly be heard above the studio audience. Wonderful.
Mrs Ivy Lane, Bootle, Merseyside.

THIS act has been performed many times over the years; no doubt the makers of Dead Ringers were aware of it because they did a similar routine for Kevin Connelly's impersonation of Andrew Marr. Freddie Starr also did a great version while impersonating Billy Fury. It was an important part of Norman Caley's act. He was a popular variety actor of the Seventies and Eighties who appeared on ITV's Sunday Night At The London Palladium. I saw him perform this act at Havil Hall Theatre. It was a small venue with a tiny stage and when Norman extended his arms, his extremities disappeared into the corner of the stage, negating the impact of the high point of his act.
John Simmons, Barnsley, S. Yorks.

Compiled by Charles Legge

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There are some clips of him on youtube but I can't find the extending arm routine.

Herbert Campbell as Little Bobby eating and drinking 1899 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfYUIWTlb6w) (who has the 'Comedian' obelisk in Stoke Newington cemetery).

The lobster-walker Sayle compared to Fred Barnes was Nerval and Kenneth Tynan wrote: 'Ernie today is a comic who is not funny. And Eric is the straight man who is funny.'

I couldn't find anything about J.W. Stead, the jumping comedian, from Bayham Street in Camden, who Lee said was written about by J.B Priestley. Does anyone know about him?