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Title: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jamiefairlie on January 20, 2021, 05:43:47 AM
Welcome to the continuing thread....we're still on 1982
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jamiefairlie on January 20, 2021, 05:47:47 AM
Dolly Mixture - Everything and More

https://youtu.be/uogX4qtizaE (https://youtu.be/uogX4qtizaE)

(https://img.discogs.com/YIiV_T9drSKWss9EvIGPGrrqwW8=/fit-in/500x498/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-8689442-1467547382-1748.jpeg.jpg)

Formed in Cambridge in 1978, this is their third single. They had a number one hit as Captain Sensible's backing band on his reprise of Happy Talk. Dolly Mixture called it a day in 1983 when Rachel, who was going out with the Captain, got pregnant with his child.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 20, 2021, 07:52:11 AM
Welcome to the continuing thread....we're still on 1982

And away we go!
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on January 20, 2021, 07:52:40 AM
So it doesn't get lost, here's the link to previous thread :

An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 1, 1962 - 1982 (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,82149.0.html)

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Post by: shiftwork2 on January 20, 2021, 09:29:14 AM
I've been a taker not a contributor but as this is starting afresh I would like to express appreciation for this excellent thread.
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Post by: Hooverbag Sherlocks on January 20, 2021, 01:56:29 PM
3D A Fish In Sea - Houdini
Taken from Peel session, March 1982

(https://i.imgur.com/zQlqj1d.jpg)

An all too familiar tale of early promise stymied by in-fighting, mis-management, indifferent promotion and corporate shittery. Originally a six-piece popular on the Liverpool circuit they managed to secure a couple of Peel sessions, shortened their name to 3D (first big mistake, if you ask me), went through multiple line-up changes (always a danger sign), signed to Mickie Most’s label, recorded an unreleased album, dropped a couple of lacklustre singles that failed to dent the charts and then gave up the ghost. A slick and sickly version of ‘Houdini’ eventually ended up being released as a single in 1985 but, by then, nobody (including, I imagine, half the band) cared. The original ‘Houdini’ is, I maintain, a thing of rare beauty and bollocks to anyone who disagrees.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZbYBBc78kU

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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 20, 2021, 02:57:21 PM
Drumbeat For Baby - Weekend. Released on Rough Trade in 1982.


(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/2001/raemFl.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/9309/zde9yS.jpg)

Weekend were a British Indie Pop PostPunk band formed by Alison Statton following the split of Young Marble Giants in 1981.

You can almost smell damp herringbone overcoats, Old Holborn, rum & black, no ice, and a hint of Christian Dior Poison on this record.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI0QHRJhG2s&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 20, 2021, 04:13:30 PM
Drumbeat For Baby - Weekend. Released on Rough Trade in 1982.



Weekend were a British Indie Pop PostPunk band formed by Alison Statton following the split of Young Marble Giants in 1981.

You can almost smell damp herringbone overcoats, Old Holborn, rum & black, no ice, and a hint of Christian Dior Poison on this record.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI0QHRJhG2s&feature=emb_logo

lovely. I was saving this for later but may as well add it here.

Weekend - Summerdays

https://youtu.be/mwBN-TVCK1w (https://youtu.be/mwBN-TVCK1w)

(https://img.discogs.com/pPo59liB_kG8-qtSIbd_yidr0As=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-1312523-1208765216.jpeg.jpg)

This is taken from their only album, La Varieté, and they split up in 1983.
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Post by: chveik on January 20, 2021, 05:09:00 PM
Sun Ra - Nuclear War (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsPrINajncU)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0BFqaQqJhk4/VGJZvx6q2TI/AAAAAAAAkmg/P5mnnPGZGyc/s1600/sunra-08-nuclearwar.jpg)

a little distraction from post-punk, and the message is still a bit relevant
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Post by: daf on January 20, 2021, 05:27:00 PM
The Phones ‎– Roboter (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u09I3ILPQdE)

(https://i.imgur.com/GCWWIGZ.jpg)

Released in Germany in 1982 - did not chart
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Post by: daf on January 20, 2021, 07:12:01 PM
Sjef Van Oekel ‎– Kwi, Kwa, Kwonika (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjGmDk-p_Jo)

(https://i.imgur.com/J3z8yGi.jpg)

Released in January 1982 - did not chart

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Sjef van Oekel was a popular TV comedy character created by Dutch artist Wim T. Schippers and played by Dutch comedian, singer and actor Dolf Brouwers. Van Oekel started as a side character in De Fred Hachéshow in 1972, but became such a cult figure that he gained his own television show, Van Oekel's Discohoek, songs and even a comic strip, all written by Schippers.

(https://i.imgur.com/pbku6Wy.png)  (https://i.imgur.com/Xbm1Wli.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/FuoEyrr.jpg)

Wim T. Schippers created Sjef van Oekel in 1972 as a Belgian french fries salesman from the village Reet. Schippers had never visited Reet, but had seen the name on a company manufacturing car accessories and enjoyed the double entendre of the name ("Reet" means "crack" or "bumcrack" in Dutch). In line with his character's origin Van Oekel originally used a Flemish accent, but quickly dropped this in favour for his own Dutch accent.

Van Oekel is typically dressed in a fine black tuxedo and always talks and behaves in a refined manner, complete with archaisms. However something always went wrong during his presentations, either on the set or he himself tripped or went nauseous. Situations like these always lead to his well-known catch phrase: "Ik word niet goed!" ("I'm starting to feel not well!"). In one controversial episode he threw up in the bicycle bag of his sidekick Evert van de Pik, which outraged Dutch journalist Henk van der Meyden so much that he started an unsuccessful campaign to get the program banned.

(https://i.imgur.com/avvJUgD.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/7aEeQQn.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/IXW8fV0.jpg)

Brouwers recorded many Schippers-penned and other songs, most of which comic and dramatic. With Manke Nelis he recorded "Vis wordt duur betaald" (#46 in the Dutch charts in 1988), but his best known song is probably "Vette jus" ("[Sauerkraut with] greasy gravy"), a dish still associated with him in a song that is little more than a list of Dutch dishes.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 20, 2021, 07:37:27 PM
Haina- Haila - Masami Tsuchiya. Released on Epic in 1982

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/2564/vWLr2m.jpg)

My mate was a massive Japan freak and bought this album because of the association. We all took the piss, especially with this track with our racist renditions of it.  Hey. We were sixteen-year-old 2Tone/ The Jam fans, of course, we would be twattish and nervous of it. Secretly, I loved this album and felt very 'confused', (shall we say?) about Tsuchiya's image on the sleeve

Masami Tsuchiya is a Japanese guitarist, vocalist, songwriter and producer born in Fuji City, Shizouka. Made his debut with a very short stint with The Golden Cups aged 15 after running away from home, working as a roadie for the group before being tracked down by his father and taken home (sources, Tsuchiya's tribute to Masayoshi Kabe in October 2020 and "The Golden Cups One More Time" movie).

Returned to Tokyo as a university student aged 18 in 1970, quickly recruited by Nobu Saito as a guitarist which led to session and performing work with Lily, Junko Ohashi and Show Yamamoto. Formed Ippu-Do in 1978, leading to his appearances with the band Japan, session work for Arcadia (the Duran Duran offshoot) and eventual solo career.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTJ-syDN3nI
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 20, 2021, 07:38:17 PM
The Phones ‎– Roboter (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u09I3ILPQdE)

(https://i.imgur.com/GCWWIGZ.jpg)

Released in Germany in 1982 - did not chart

Mint!
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 20, 2021, 07:40:03 PM
Sun Ra - Nuclear War (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsPrINajncU)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0BFqaQqJhk4/VGJZvx6q2TI/AAAAAAAAkmg/P5mnnPGZGyc/s1600/sunra-08-nuclearwar.jpg)

a little distraction from post-punk, and the message is still a bit relevant

Love that!
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Post by: Jockice on January 20, 2021, 07:53:53 PM
Transparents - Afraid Of Mice

Liverpool band who I'd totally forgotten about until a Scouse mate mentioned them recently. Apparently he used to know them. I didn't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4refolVb_uQ
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on January 20, 2021, 07:55:21 PM
Sun Ra and pals might think nuclear war is a motherfucker, but, conversely, Washington DC go-go hitmakers Trouble Funk are IN FAVOUR of dropping the bomb!!!!!!

Trouble Funk-Drop the Bomb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buXt-yyZEss&feature=emb_logo

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.ycZlEuRpIfxw5IOPa9iQAAAAAA?w=125&h=155&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7)
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Post by: chveik on January 20, 2021, 08:02:33 PM
Super Djata Band - Batila (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j8IiUEbo54)

(https://img.discogs.com/eh2vzSYHdpKOnDuOyx03CXQBdCo=/fit-in/480x486/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1865930-1287061792.jpeg.jpg)

another gem from Mali

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Bringing together bambara traditions, Wasulu hunter music, Kenedugu's balafon music, and bozo fishermen dances, mandingo chants and fula repertoire, mixed with a spicy, and at times even psychedelic guitar, Zani Diabaté's Super Djata Band came to the forefront of the emerging world music scene in the early 1980s as one of Mali's strongest bands.
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Post by: Jockice on January 20, 2021, 08:06:21 PM
XOYO - The Passage.

Manchester band formed by Richard (or is it Dick?) Witts, who was apparently previously in the Halle Orchestra. I think I first heard this on the Pillows And Prayers compilation and later bought the album, Degenerates, which I was quite fond of.

I saw them play at the local art college around this time and a large hardboard display at the back of the stage toppled over and landed on one of them. Which amused me greatly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpk2rFXZYi0
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Post by: Jockice on January 20, 2021, 08:11:29 PM
My Face Is On Fire - Felt.

Another one from Pillows And Prayers. My first exposure to Lawrence, later to become my favourite recording artist of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejj0CevY8RY

Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Jockice on January 20, 2021, 08:13:54 PM
Repetition. Ignore.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 20, 2021, 08:38:17 PM
Killing Joke - Empire Song

https://youtu.be/eoTNOb76LV4
 (https://youtu.be/eoTNOb76LV4)

(https://www.popsike.com/pix/20170414/302283754412.jpg)

Sixth single and biggest hit so far, reaching number 43 in the UK charts in March. In also placed number 20 in Peel's festive Fifty. In February 82, singer Jaz Coleman moved to Iceland to survive the apocalypse, which he predicted was coming imminently. As a result  "Empire Song" was performed at Top of the Pops with drummer Paul Ferguson miming vocals and a dummy was placed in front of a keyboard. Just a normal day in KJ land.
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Post by: daf on January 20, 2021, 08:50:59 PM
Fun fact - though it was #43 in the chart, it wasn't even the lowest charting song on that weeks show!

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25 March 1982: Presenters: Peter Powell & Garth Crooks

(41) ALTERED IMAGES – See Those Eyes
( 3 ) JULIO IGLESIAS – Quiereme Mucho (Yours) (video)
(33) BUCKS FIZZ – My Camera Never Lies
(28) FOSTER & ALLEN – A Bunch Of Thyme
(44) THE BOOMTOWN RATS – House On Fire
(26) THE NOLANS – Don’t Love Me Too Hard (video)
(43) KILLING JOKE – Empire Song
(22) PLUTO – Your Honour
(14) CHAS & DAVE – Ain’t No Pleasing You (video)
( 1 ) THE GOOMBAY FUCKING DANCE BAND – Seven Tears
( 9 ) THE ASSOCIATES – Party Fears Two (crowd dancing and credits)
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Post by: Phil_A on January 20, 2021, 09:40:50 PM
Tom Waits - Broken Bicycles (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nadKt9BaFZ4)

(https://cdn-s3.allmusic.com/release-covers/500/0001/213/0001213289.jpg)

This song was written during a transitional time for Waits who was chafing against the demands of his label & management, and the limitations of the persona he'd created for himself. In fact it was during the recording of the One From The Heart sessions Waits met his future wife Kathleen Brennan, who would play a huge part in shaping Waits' future musical direction from that point on.

One From The Heart(the film), was a monumentally disastrous flop that nearly bankrupted Frances Ford Coppola's production company Zoetrope Productions and caused the director financial struggles for years afterwards.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on January 20, 2021, 10:00:00 PM
Tin Tin - Kiss Me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPgJpUjPNb4)

(https://i.imgur.com/G6N57h7.jpg)

Released in October 1982 - did not chart

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Stephen Anthony James Duffy was born in Alum Rock, Birmingham. While attending the School of Foundation Studies & Experimental Workshop at Birmingham Polytechnic Duffy met John Taylor. Together they formed the group Duran Duran, along with Taylor's childhood friend, Nick Rhodes. While Taylor was the guitarist (later switching to bass) and Rhodes played the synthesizer, Duffy was the band's vocalist/lyricist and bassist. When bass player Simon Colley joined, Duffy moved to drums. He left both the school and the band in 1979, before Duran Duran signed with EMI in 1980.

He went on to form Obviously Five Believers, sometimes known as The Subterranean Hawks or The Hawks, and he made his first four-track recordings. The Hawks' only single, "Words of Hope", was released in 1981.

(https://i.imgur.com/dd3zIjh.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/E3razVt.jpg)

In 1982, he created the band Tin Tin, with John Mulligan and Dik Davis (from the band Fashion), Andy "Stoker" Growcott (of Dexys Midnight Runners) and Bob Lamb (original producer of Birmingham band UB40). Originally called Holy Tin Tin before being shortened, the band was signed with WEA Records in the UK, and released the single "Kiss Me" in 1982 but was unsuccessful. By 1983, Tin Tin had signed with Sire Records in the US, who re-released "Kiss Me". Another single, "Hold It", was also released in 1983 which peaked at no.55 in the UK.

(https://i.imgur.com/2cMuwn4.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/SazroSb.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/dob1rVh.jpg) 

After a stint of working in the US, Duffy returned to England and signed a deal as a solo artist with Virgin 10. Now working under the name Stephen "Tin Tin" Duffy, he recorded a new version of "Kiss Me" which was released in 1984, this time only in the local West Midlands area, followed by a nationwide release of "She Makes Me Quiver" which peaked at #88 in September 1984.

(https://i.imgur.com/1aZhe2O.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/HMI9qZs.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/UbP3oPV.jpg) 

At the end of 1984, Duffy recorded a third version of "Kiss Me", produced by J.J. Jeczalik and Nicholas Froome, which was released in February 1985. It debuted at #22 and peaked at number 4 in the UK Singles Chart and stayed in the UK Top 10 for five weeks altogether. This version was featured on his debut album 'the ups and downs' - released in April 1985.

(https://i.imgur.com/WcVu9uw.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/zvyO2H4.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/sFVUMje.jpg)
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Post by: Dusty Substance on January 20, 2021, 11:12:02 PM
I've been a taker not a contributor but as this is starting afresh I would like to express appreciation for this excellent thread.

Same here. I only began browsing the first thread the other night but have already found a few great songs that I'd not heard before.

Don't 'spose anyone's put all the suggested songs on a Sp*t*fy Playlist?

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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 20, 2021, 11:32:40 PM
Life Goes On - The Damned. Released on Bronze in 1982.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/6399/BbFQHZ.jpg)

Favourite Damned album.  My best friend from university who knew he was dying chose this number as his funeral song.
Not a dry eye in the house. Still miss ya, Lloydy. x

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0tA4MvnlOY&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: daf on January 21, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
Ted Rogers With The Young'uns ‎– Dusty Bin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jumRytvxGj4)

(https://i.imgur.com/Ab85CXI.jpg)

Released in 1982 - did not chart

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3–2–1 was a British game show that was made by Yorkshire Television for ITV. It ran for ten years, between 29 July 1978 and 24 December 1988, with Ted Rogers as the host. It was based on a Spanish gameshow called Un, dos, tres... responda otra vez and was a trio of three shows in one: a quiz, variety and a game show. The show occupied a Saturday early evening slot for most of its run.

(https://i.imgur.com/4y5FIZR.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/HQkl37S.jpg)

Dusty Bin was both the show's mascot and its booby prize. Dusty would appear at the very opening of the show's titles, coming to life by the pre-titles Yorkshire Television chevron logo, flying into him outside of the studios in Leeds. Dusty would also appear at the start of each show, dressed in the style of that week's theme.

The cartoon character of Dusty Bin was created by freelance designer John Sunderland, who developed the character based on the show producers' brief for a booby prize which would work on the British version of the show. The original Spanish version had a pumpkin as a booby prize. Sunderland's concept for the shows' original titles, which were shown on the original series, included the birth of the bin. The character came to life as YTV's chevron logo falls to earth after shooting up into the sky like a rocket above the studios, exploding in a dustbin standing by the studios stage door. The bin contained a clown's costume, parts of which become one with the bin, bringing it to life as the character Dusty Bin; part dustbin, part clown, part enduring iconic character.

(https://i.imgur.com/HeOQ4Xm.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/uLNLX21.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/HEihsuF.jpg)

The original robotic Dusty Bin, and his Yorkshire Terrier, Dog Garbage, was put together by Ian Rowley, in his converted chapel workshop in Rodley, Leeds. He used over 73 microprocessors, at a cost around £10,000 to manufacture to control Dusty and Garbage.

(https://i.imgur.com/fQzTnMm.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/44qAXno.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/sUbaXNp.jpg)

The final Christmas special, broadcast on 24 December 1988, attracted 12.5 million viewers, but an eleventh series was not commissioned. A bitter Ted Rogers claimed in an April 1996 interview that "The Oxbridge lot got control of TV and they didn't really want it. It was too downmarket for them. We were still getting 12 million viewers when they took it off after ten years. These days if a show gets nine million everyone does a lap of honour."
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 21, 2021, 12:06:04 AM
Ted Rogers With The Young'uns ‎– Dusty Bin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jumRytvxGj4)

(https://i.imgur.com/Ab85CXI.jpg)

Released in 1982 - did not chart

You've surpassed yourself.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 21, 2021, 12:07:31 AM
New Order - Too Late

https://youtu.be/sySXyLHEM1o (https://youtu.be/sySXyLHEM1o)

(https://img.discogs.com/fModoWozsWkNAbJu8Xj-wpqRgls=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-102464-1397770939-9258.jpeg.jpg)

1982 was a quiet year for New Order, their only release was the Temptation single, but they did record their second Peel session featuring a couple of early versions of songs that would appear on their second album, Power, Corruption & Lies, in 1983. Also included was this rarity, a song they never played live, but nonetheless, one of their best in my opinion.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 21, 2021, 12:14:44 AM
I Could Have Crushed A Grape - Stu Francis Released on Lunar in 1982.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/4734/ReXxjo.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/2841/VDPgAq.jpg)




Cunt.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiZP-27-PJw&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: daf on January 21, 2021, 12:23:29 AM
I Could Have Crushed A Grape - Stu Francis (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiZP-27-PJw&feature=emb_logo)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/4734/ReXxjo.jpg)

Superb-o!
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Post by: Gregory Torso on January 21, 2021, 01:00:07 AM
Non Band - Duncan Dancin' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnd4EK5JNxk)


(https://i.imgur.com/D9oQaIT.jpg)

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Non was part of the Tokyo punk scene and played bass in a duo called Maria 023 before forming her own NON BAND - a trio with Kinosuke Yamagishi on violin and clarinet, and Mitsuru Tamagaki on drums.

In February 1982 they released a 10-inch LP on a label called Telegraph Records. Following that release, a guitarist and keyboardist joined, but then the whole band quit one after the other over the next six months for unknown reasons.

Non ended up returning to her hometown, where she raised two children and took over the running of the family business, an arts supplies store. However, in 1999 she started making and performing music again with legendary noise dude Keiji Haino and Tatsuya Yoshida (of Ruins, among many other things). This marked the beginning of a new phase for her, and she played live in Tokyo and released a solo album, "ie". She got back in touch with Yamagishi and Tamagaki and reformed NON BAND. They added Emi Sasaki on accordion and began to play a handful of gigs each year, bringing a mature depth to their undiminished power and dazzling a new generation of fans. In 2012 the group released an album of recent live performances entitled " NON BAND Liven' 2009-2012".
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Post by: Gregory Torso on January 21, 2021, 01:21:04 AM
L-Seven - Insanity (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q43nGluLJ4)


(https://i.imgur.com/kTrd9Kz.jpg)

Not to be confused with grunge grrl metal band of later years. This L-Seven was a Detroit punk/rock band who only released one seven inch in 1982, although an album of unreleased material came out last year on Third Man records.

Guitarist Larissa Strickland later went on to be in the abrasive noise rock band The Laughing Hyenas who released records on Touch And Go.

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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 21, 2021, 02:12:19 AM
The Chameleons - Love Is

https://youtu.be/JQw_d8OLcJI (https://youtu.be/JQw_d8OLcJI)

(https://img.discogs.com/FCDttoezSGYkb5HTfReULjmZl4o=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-630969-1606089050-6451.jpeg.jpg)

An early demo included on the compilation The Fan and The Bellows.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 21, 2021, 05:02:38 AM
The Spongetones - She Goes Out With Everybody

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-i5UTQWQoJIQ/XJi6SZsEnJI/AAAAAAAASrI/Sdu2LSuyqucKWyXqIZOf2Ct3_0rerQsJwCLcBGAs/s1600/cropped-Spongetones-1980.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwtpS1mBjzo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwtpS1mBjzo)

Power Pop at its most immaculately Merseybeat-esque. Neil Innes would've doubtless doffed his beret to this heartfelt pastiche.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 21, 2021, 05:43:25 AM
Gary Portnoy - Where Everybody Knows Your Name (Theme from Cheers)

(https://www.tvovermind.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Cheers-630x472.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhVRzh4_j50 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhVRzh4_j50)

Norm!! Ben Folds famously based his entire career on this classic theme tune.

I'm glad the snickering "and your husband wants to be a girl" line wasn't included in the truncated opening credits version. Sheesh. Different times.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 21, 2021, 05:48:55 AM
Tom Waits - Broken Bicycles (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nadKt9BaFZ4)

Beautiful.
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Post by: Phil_A on January 21, 2021, 12:37:38 PM
Same here. I only began browsing the first thread the other night but have already found a few great songs that I'd not heard before.

Don't 'spose anyone's put all the suggested songs on a Sp*t*fy Playlist?

I started putting mixes together but it was taking up more free time than I have at the moment. If anyone wants to carry on that's fine with me.

https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,84396.0.html
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 21, 2021, 01:17:10 PM
Black Coffee In Bed - Squeeze. Released on A&M in 1982

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/504/y7oOOg.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/479/Y6OY8Z.jpg)

Surprised there's been no mention yet of Deptford's finest sons. This peaked at 51 in the UK hit parade.

Squeeze are a rock to New Wave band, formed in March 1974 in London, UK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUx5z9O2ZGk
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Post by: Hooverbag Sherlocks on January 21, 2021, 01:32:13 PM
Mark Stewart & The Maffia - Jerusalem
Single released by On-U Sound, 1982. Reached number 4 in the UK charts.[1]

(https://i.imgur.com/M1GgN5Z.jpg)

Ex-Pop Group singer (loosely speaking) Stewart continued his mission to disrupt the conservative normality throughout the 80s and beyond with a series of 'fairly' uncompromising albums, ably assisted by the On-U massive. As I recall, his preferred production technique was to try and recreate the sound of the Jah Shaka Sound System he once heard at Notting Hill Carnival through cheap speakers that just weren’t up to the task. Distorted, punishing and broken – the perfect recipe for pop perfection.   

‘Jerusalem’ is the strangely beautiful sound of an unhinged whisky priest tackling William Blake head-on, complete with uncredited traditional brass and choral version dragged in and out of the mix for twisted posterity. The Last Night Of The Proms would have been a much more wholesome affair with this as its centre-piece. Single of the decade for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZa-OAF0unk
 1. No.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 21, 2021, 01:59:45 PM
Two Of A Kind - The Happy Family. Released on 4AD in 1982.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/1734/CWx1K9.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/2264/QU97jJ.jpg)

Almost a proto-version of The Smiths via Orange Juice.

The Happy Family were formed in 1981 by Edinburgh literature student Nick Currie with three ex-members of local group Josef K. Currie later recorded as "Momus" and is still active.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc6bBISs11o&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: daf on January 21, 2021, 05:39:29 PM
Johnny Bull ‎– Battle Of The Falklands (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiHjuhzWKj0)

(https://i.imgur.com/fK5Dc2j.jpg)

Released in 1982 - did not chart

Quote
John Bull originated as a satirical character created by John Arbuthnot, a friend of Jonathan Swift and Alexander Pope. Bull first appeared in 1712 in Arbuthnot's pamphlet Law is a Bottomless Pit. Arbuthnot provided him with a sister named Peg (Scotland), and a traditional adversary in Louis Baboon (the House of Bourbon in France). Peg continued in pictorial art beyond the 18th century, but the other figures associated with the original tableau dropped away. John Bull himself continued to frequently appear as a national symbol in posters and cartoons as late as World War I.

Bull is usually depicted as a stout man in a tailcoat with light-coloured breeches and a top hat which, by its shallow crown, indicates its middle class identity. During the Georgian period his waistcoat was red, but by the twentieth century, his waistcoat usually depicted the Union Jack flag. As a literary figure, John Bull is well-intentioned, frustrated, full of common sense, and entirely of native country stock. Unlike Uncle Sam later, he is not a figure of authority but rather a yeoman who prefers his small beer and domestic peace, possessed of neither patriarchal power nor heroic defiance.

(https://i.imgur.com/D5gfKCb.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/FIIRz36.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/sdKHpOS.jpg)

The Falklands War was a 10-week undeclared war between Argentina and the United Kingdom. The conflict began on 2 April 1982, when Argentina invaded and occupied the Falkland Islands, followed by the invasion of South Georgia the next day. On 5 April, the British government dispatched a naval task force to engage the Argentine Navy and Air Force before making an amphibious assault on the islands. The conflict lasted 74 days and ended with an Argentine surrender on 14 June 1982, returning the islands to British control. In total, 649 Argentine military personnel, 255 British military personnel, and three Falkland Islanders died during the hostilities.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 21, 2021, 05:53:30 PM
Red Lorry Yellow Lorry - Beating My Head

https://youtu.be/i1nA4_SR-YQ (https://youtu.be/i1nA4_SR-YQ)

(https://img.discogs.com/P5PowrTy0mgmrXHSf_y7mTHxZNQ=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-1311563-1244972258.jpeg.jpg)

Formed in Leeds in early 1981. This is their debut single. They went on to release five albums before splitting in 1991.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 21, 2021, 06:02:27 PM
Red Lorry Yellow Lorry - Beating My Head

https://youtu.be/i1nA4_SR-YQ (https://youtu.be/i1nA4_SR-YQ)

(https://img.discogs.com/P5PowrTy0mgmrXHSf_y7mTHxZNQ=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-1311563-1244972258.jpeg.jpg)

Formed in Leeds in early 1981. This is their debut single. They went on to release five albums before splitting in 1991.

That sleeve is beautifully on the nose.
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Post by: Rizla on January 21, 2021, 06:03:47 PM
Whilst we're on the subject of the Falklands conflict - my second record by these lads, the first being back in 1976 at the starting peak of their career, we find them two years after their biggest hit, I Got You which was penned by Neil Finn, and this time it's older brother and founder Tim who has provided the smash hit, reaching no2 in Australia and no7 in both their native New Zealand and also Canada. In the UK, however, a nervous BBC kept it off the playlists due to the song's title, and not the borderline racist dancing in the video.

Split Enz Six Months In A Leaky Boat (https://youtu.be/ar7DgREshAk?t=80)

(https://images.rapgenius.com/5fc12960fbdd621fe4ecb67f474730d6.897x715x1.jpg)

From wikipedia -

Released in May 1982 as the second single from the group's seventh studio album, Time and Tide.

The song is a reference to the time it took pioneers to sail to New Zealand (hence the reference to Aotearoa and The Tyranny of Distance - a history by Geoffrey Blainey), and a metaphor that refers to lead singer Tim Finn's nervous breakdown.

The song was "discouraged from airplay" in Britain during the Falklands War by the BBC for reasons of morale - it was thought that references to leaky boats were not appropriate during the naval action in the war.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e9/c2/01/e9c201f71a9e7bb768195c30d66008dc.jpg)

Later covered by Marillion, The Wiggles, and more besides.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 21, 2021, 06:43:37 PM
Siouxsie and the Banshees - Green Fingers

https://youtu.be/a_mzSEURvE4 (https://youtu.be/a_mzSEURvE4)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7b/Siouxsie_%26_the_Banshees-A_Kiss_in_the_Dreamhouse.jpg)

Taken from A Kiss in the Dreamhouse, their fifth studio album. It was released on 5 November 1982 by Polydor Records. The record marked a change of musical direction as the group used strings for the first time.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 21, 2021, 06:51:08 PM
The Wild Swans - Revolutionary Spirit
(https://img.discogs.com/mM7KNXLe0ioHuowbBLiSnnFwLwg=/fit-in/488x480/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-195318-1252835514.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdrLarbWEMY

This is bordering on perfection in its power and conviction: I love the contrast between the slightly detached verses and the choruses where the vocals are in your face and the drums are in your living room. For some reason this doesn't feature on the Cherry Red Liverpool scene compilation it is named after, which strikes me as a particularly silly and glaring omission. Bill Drummond's favourite release on Zoo Records reportedly.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 21, 2021, 07:11:12 PM
The Flirts - Passion

(https://img.discogs.com/ZZg3cL3_O_G4I94-xMCSOoU_4cY=/fit-in/400x398/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-138984-1226434679.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfI9_kMiS78

This will not be the last time I post a Bobby O production in this thread. What to say about him other than that as well as reportedly being extremely homophobic he also somehow managed to discover the Pet Shop Boys and record a version of his own hit Try It (I'm In Love With A Married Man) with them. At this point you'd think he'd have an inkling. Most Bobby O productions have the same octave bassline played on the same synthesizer patch, and the same riff and this is part of the appeal for me personally. Usually the vocals are delivered by a woman who swings rapidly between monotone and hysterical, or a strange "hunky" voiced guy who was usually Bobby himself. Regardless of his personal views, he made some of the most wonderfully camp records of the decade including this.

Divine - Shoot Your Shot

(https://img.discogs.com/JIhIdz7NrEVWixkFx24yhQkltKI=/fit-in/582x587/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-62110-1310387746.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt_Donc-Ogg

Yes he was also responsible for writing and producing the lion's share of Divine's output. Why? Because crime and beauty are the same, of course. Shame he never got round to doing the same for Edith Massey and rebranding them as a grotesque version of The Pointer Sisters. In this entry he just opts for brazenly stealing the bassline from I Feel Love. I feel that while there was obvious intentional comedy value to Divine, they manage to give quite commanding performances on most of their records.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 21, 2021, 07:13:21 PM
Uncertain Smile - The The   Released on Some Bizarre in 1982.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/1762/kRmsFe.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/9496/cAaYSX.jpg)

Even Jools Holland's Hootenany boogie-woogie stylings couldn't ruin this perfect gem of a single, in fact he makes it.

The The is an English musical and multimedia group with singer/songwriter Matt Johnson being the only constant band member. The group has no permanent group line-up, and Johnson has collaborated with a wide range of musicians, changing personnel from project to project.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bErFXjUGvQ&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 21, 2021, 07:17:14 PM
Six Months In A Leaky Boat


This is like a New Wave ELO record.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 21, 2021, 07:29:21 PM
Uncertain Smile - The The   Released on Some Bizarre in 1982.



Even Jools Holland's Hootenany boogie-woogie stylings couldn't ruin this perfect gem of a single, in fact he makes it.

The The is an English musical and multimedia group with singer/songwriter Matt Johnson being the only constant band member. The group has no permanent group line-up, and Johnson has collaborated with a wide range of musicians, changing personnel from project to project.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bErFXjUGvQ&feature=emb_logo

Great song!
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 21, 2021, 07:30:51 PM
The Beat - Save It for Later

https://youtu.be/0bM0wVjU2-k (https://youtu.be/0bM0wVjU2-k)

(https://img.discogs.com/DTLP7rZCiCKFom-MZV9D6HZUNPo=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-3117534-1528523165-5749.jpeg.jpg)

A late career highlight, although it only reached number 47 in the UK charts. Written by Beat guitarist Dave Wakeling before the band was founded, the song nearly went unreleased due to opposition from bassist David Steele.
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Post by: daf on January 21, 2021, 07:36:36 PM
The Singing Sheep - Flock Around The Clock (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSxSjsO8ujk)

(https://i.imgur.com/AiMB1ks.jpg)

B-side of Baa-Baa Black Sheep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bopF0Cgal20) - Reached #42 in the UK chart in December 1982

Quote
Richard Charles Nicholas Branson was born in Blackheath, London. After failed attempts to grow and sell both Christmas trees and budgerigars, Branson launched a magazine named Student. The first issue appeared in January 1968, and a year later, Branson's net worth was estimated at £50,000. Branson eventually started a record shop in Oxford Street in London. In 1972, using money earned from his record store, Branson launched the record label Virgin Records with Nik Powell. Branson bought a country estate north of Oxford in which he installed a residential recording studio, The Manor. He leased studio time to fledgling artists, including multi-instrumentalist Mike Oldfield, whose debut album, blah, blah, blah . . .

(https://i.imgur.com/Dnn6RQA.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/UYEtKoZ.jpg)

The early 1980s also saw his only attempt as a producer — in association with Doug McLean and Grace McDonald. Clare Hoare kept a flock of Welsh Mountain Sheep and launched a business, called Black Sheep, selling shawls and sweaters knitted from their wool and pottery featuring pictures of her sheep. In 1982 the savvy businesswoman was astonished to find that one of her sheep had started singing [chinny reckon!!]. She immediately called her nephew (Richard Branson) and asked him to record the musical mutton.

(https://i.imgur.com/oct3SwX.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/KWr3dER.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/gwd3Qjh.jpg)

The result was a 7-inch single called 'Baa Baa Black Sheep' with the singing sheep accompanied by a choir of other farmyard animals. Produced by the rib-ticklingly named 'Jeff Mutton', it spent five weeks in the Top 75, peaking at number 42 in December 1982.
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Post by: Phil_A on January 21, 2021, 08:54:03 PM
Jandek - Nancy Sings (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SChPfliPmF4)

(https://img.discogs.com/zncQKMBv4K4_LNF06siugYPYEvI=/fit-in/600x593/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-2519889-1289027180.jpeg.jpg)

"Jandek" is the name given to the ongoing musical project of Sterling Smith of Houston, Texas, of whom little personal information is known. He has released over 100 albums since 1978.

Although frequently stereotyped as a guy wailing tonelessly over a detuned acoustic guitar for entire albums, the Jandek back catalogue covers a large number of styles and genres, euch as minimalist piano pieces, chaotic lo-fi garage rock, spoken word and ambient jazz suites

The track, from 1982's Chair Beside A Window, features the eponymous "Nancy" on lead vocals.
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on January 21, 2021, 09:03:22 PM
The Flirts - Passion


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfI9_kMiS78

This will not be the last time I post a Bobby O production in this thread. What to say about him other than that as well as reportedly being extremely homophobic he also somehow managed to discover the Pet Shop Boys...
Not just discovered, apparently Passion was one of the tracks that Neil and Chris's shared enthusiasm for got them going with the band. The megamix version you linked to is wild and kind of manic, what on earth is going on in it? I'm going to chuck in a link to the rather more low-key and subdued 12"for balance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfik2eWywxo
 
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on January 21, 2021, 09:17:55 PM
Ted Rogers With The Young'uns ‎– Dusty Bin

Released in 1982 - did not chart

I was given a copy of this onstage by Ted Rogers when my family went to see his variety show in a northern seaside town, maybe Bridlington. For some reason they got some kids from the audience onstage to sing a song or something. If this was in 1982 it's actually the earliest memory I have! (But maybe, if it didn't chart he was handing out free copies of it for many years after). The B-side, Who Dunnit?, about Agatha Christie shenanigans, was vastly superior to the A, but sadly it's not on youtube. The lyrics to the chorus were
"Who Dunnit?
Nobody knows Who Dunnit?
Only the writer knows
(You'll find out in the end, though).
I was a bit jealous that the last remaining kid onstage didn't get a record but instead got a model Dusty Bin and some Polo mints. Sitting here 40 years later, I wonder if the mints were a planned gift, or were spur of the moment present out of Ted's pocket.
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on January 21, 2021, 09:20:24 PM
A late career highlight, although it only reached number 47 in the UK charts. Written by Beat guitarist Dave Wakeling before the band was founded, the song nearly went unreleased due to opposition from bassist David Steele.
Can remember Dave Wakeling talking about an odd moment where his phone went one day, and it was Pete Townshend asking what the tuning was, as he wanted to do a version for some solo gig he had coming up.

Re Split Enz getting a ban on their 'Six Months In a Leaky Boat' due to Falklands, I think the same thing happened to Gang of Four and their 'I Love a Man in Uniform'.
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on January 21, 2021, 09:20:44 PM
Jandek - Nancy Sings (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SChPfliPmF4)

"Jandek" is the name given to the ongoing musical project of Sterling Smith of Houston, Texas, of whom little personal information is known. He has released over 100 albums since 1978.

Although frequently stereotyped as a guy wailing tonelessly over a detuned acoustic guitar for entire albums, the Jandek back catalogue covers a large number of styles and genres, euch as minimalist piano pieces, chaotic lo-fi garage rock, spoken word and ambient jazz suites

The track, from 1982's Chair Beside A Window, features the eponymous "Nancy" on lead vocals.

Yeah, I love that track but the whole outsider-artist thing is a bit of a red-herring, isn't it. You can't make records like that without being a musician.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 21, 2021, 09:29:09 PM
I was given a copy of this onstage by Ted Rogers when my family went to see his variety show in a northern seaside town, maybe Bridlington. For some reason they got some kids from the audience onstage to sing a song or something. If this was in 1982 it's actually the earliest memory I have! (But maybe, if it didn't chart he was handing out free copies of it for many years after). The B-side, Who Dunnit?, about Agatha Christie shenanigans, was vastly superior to the A, but sadly it's not on youtube. The lyrics to the chorus were
"Who Dunnit?
Nobody knows Who Dunnit?
Only the writer knows
(You'll find out in the end, though).
I was a bit jealous that the last remaining kid onstage didn't get a record but instead got a model Dusty Bin and some Polo mints. Sitting here 40 years later, I wonder if the mints were a planned gift, or were spur of the moment present out of Ted's pocket.

Shades of Partridge there....
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 21, 2021, 09:42:57 PM
Brian Eno - The Lost Day

(https://img.discogs.com/nQQMX9_ehOhg21OrZv9_Z4EeXGs=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-61712-1345000117-9628.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JsF4Q93BMs

You'd think after making two of the greatest albums of all time in 1980 and 1981, Eno would have had a break from making greatest albums of all time. But he didn't. Cuh! Some people, eh?

On Land ain't no new age shit. It has a dark beauty and The Lost Day in particular has an understated menace.
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Post by: daf on January 21, 2021, 10:00:00 PM
ABBA - I Am the City (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe4cTHN-M3s)

(https://i.imgur.com/SASQwbC.jpg)

Recorded in May 1982 - released in 1993

Quote
In May 1982, Benny, Björn, Agnetha and Frida convened to start recording ABBA’s 9th album. After recording just three songs – ‘You Owe Me One’, ‘Just Like That’ and ‘I Am The City’ – the group abandoned plans for a new album, and announced the end-of-year release of a career-spanning compilation double album, The Singles: The First Ten Years, planned to include one or two new songs to be recorded in August. As a result of this, "I Am the City" remained unreleased for eleven years until it was first commercially released on the 1993 compilation album 'More ABBA Gold'.

(https://i.imgur.com/wyJi6Fg.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/aagS6YF.jpg)

Of the three songs, "Just Like That" has yet to be officially released in its entirety. Benny and Björn have stated that the song sounded 'wrong': the verse and chorus did not fit together, and that is why it was scrapped. The two men admit this happens regularly in their way of writing music: a mediocre song can become a bridge or a riff for another song, and a good melody line can lie around for many years until it surfaces in a composition.

Benny and Björn nevertheless allowed for a 'snippet' of "Just Like That" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUfAzxBKvLA&t=19m9s) to be released in a 'medley' track on the box set Thank You for the Music in 1994. Although this snippet only revealed the chorus of the track, it is notable for featuring a saxophone solo by Bob Holness Raphael Ravenscroft, perhaps best known for his famous saxophone riff on Gerry Rafferty's 1978 hit "Blockbusters" "Baker Street". This was one of the very few times that ABBA used a musician outside the usual ABBA circle.

(https://i.imgur.com/jTRUgrL.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/c3ds8p3.jpg)

Other recordings of "Just Like That" exist; a version features a guitar riff that eventually made its way into the verse melody of the song "Under Attack", while another interpretation has come to be known as the 'na na na' version, where Agnetha is heard singing 'na na na na's on top of the instrumental melody.

Agnetha : "I haven't heard it in several years, but I remember it as a very good song and recording. It is one of my big favourites, and I hope it's going to be released one day"
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 21, 2021, 10:03:59 PM
The Fall - The Classical

https://youtu.be/cKRSzztJ6_0 (https://youtu.be/cKRSzztJ6_0)


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8f/Hex_Enduction_Hour.jpg/220px-Hex_Enduction_Hour.jpg)

Taken from Hex Enduction Hour, their fourth album. It was placed number 38 in Peel's all-time Festive Fifty in 2000.
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Post by: daf on January 22, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
Paddington Bear ‎– Cross My Paws And Hope To Die (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ_EElYno2w)

(https://i.imgur.com/L97v2GQ.jpg)

Released in 1982 - did not chart

Quote
Paddington Bear was born in Darkest Peru. Aside from his Uncle Pastuzo, who gave him his old stained bucket hat, his only known living relative is his Aunt Lucy, who receives letters from him at the Home for Retired Bears in Lima. Paddington stowed away in a lifeboat on the Samskip Innovator. He was found sitting on a suitcase at Paddington railway station in London with a note attached to his coat that read "Please look after this bear. Thank you."

The Brown family adopted him, thus giving him the full name "Paddington Brown". Paddington means well when he tries to help, but he occasionally makes mistakes that get him into trouble. He is very fond of marmalade and often keeps a sandwich containing it under his hat for emergencies. When he is displeased with someone, he gives them a "hard stare" that his Aunt Lucy taught him if someone forgot their manners.

(https://i.imgur.com/F0zwhsF.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/O2932O6.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/3LBL2oQ.jpg)

Born in London, Shirlie Roden was brought up and educated in South Wales from the age of three. She studied piano and later classical singing with a member of the Welsh National Opera and at fifteen was playing in London folk clubs alongside the then unknown Paul Simon and Al Stewart. The mid-seventies saw Shirlie touring America and Europe for three years with cult British rock band Ray Davies and The Kinks in their concept musicals ‘Preservation’, ‘A Soap Opera’ and ‘Schoolboys in Disgrace.’ She later joined the Gordon Giltrap Band, uniquely using her high vocal range as an instrument in amongst Giltrap’s classical / progressive rock music.

In the eighties, she began to write for musical theatre, and British impresario Bill Kenwright commissioned and produced her original shows including two children’s shows : ‘Beauty and the Beast’, and ‘Paddington Bear’s Magical Musical’.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 22, 2021, 12:21:14 AM
The Go-Betweens - Cattle and Cane

https://youtu.be/vkrEiD9s0pU (https://youtu.be/vkrEiD9s0pU)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/59/Go-Betweens-Cattle-And-Cane.jpg)

My last Go-Betweens submission was back in distant 1978, with their debut Lee Remick, perhaps my biggest gap between entries so far? This is their sixth single.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 22, 2021, 12:48:16 PM
From their live album Hai!

Cabaret Voltaire - 3 Days Monk

(https://img.discogs.com/w3ma2qPUccubA15-MxTUashcZO0=/fit-in/600x596/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-54667-1428742169-7044.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpn84V9-MjU

For years, I thought this track had come out of nowhere until I heard On the Corner by Miles Davis. That was a musical fuck my hat moment. I'm not complaining. I like the idea that however much music I hear, there's a world of it still to be discovered.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 22, 2021, 01:49:06 PM
Cannon & Ball - The Boys in Blue

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNmI3M2E2YzAtMDg3Yi00MWZlLWEwOGItODQwOWI1MGViMTY3XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNTAzOTAzNDY@._V1_.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUt8ARpnDU4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUt8ARpnDU4)

Written by Genesis P-Orridge, produced by Martin Hannett, released on Factory as a limited edition flexidisc.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 22, 2021, 02:19:48 PM
Gary Numan - We Take Mystery (to Bed)
(https://img.discogs.com/rx2YnuEfQOVk_j1OjOD_m_3RfLU=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-55496-1605445498-6460.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY9ym3RiTHY

This absolute banger was a single from Gary Numan's unfairly overlooked 82 album I, Assassin. Probably overlooked due to shallow reasons like Gary persisting in his whole "looking like a twat on every album cover" thing. Regardless of this fact this is an incredibly infectious synth-pop / funk crossover with some great choppy rhythm guitar, Pino Palladino slapping and sliding all over the place in a way that I'd normally find hugely irritating and the trademark Numan Vox Humana synth lead. There are parts of this where it's hard to tell the fretless apart from Numan's own voice, and it all bears a very heavy Japan influence but I like it more than Japan so there. Also I'm a sucker for needless brackets in a songtitle.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 22, 2021, 03:22:08 PM
That's a good (song).
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 22, 2021, 04:41:02 PM
The Beat - ESG. Released on 99 in 1982.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/2613/TDG8ar.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5153/IJ1341.jpg)

Dance music at its most spartan.

ESG wre an art-funk ensemble from the South Bronx, ESG (Emerald Sapphire & Gold) was formed by sisters Renee, Valerie, and Marie Scroggins, all of whom handle vocals and percussion, and friends David Miles (guitar) and Leroy Glover (bass). ESG's music is centered around the sisters' complex polyrhythms with atmosphere supplied by bass and pop-flavored guitar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-Vf7YsPjao
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Post by: daf on January 22, 2021, 06:51:15 PM
The Stripes – De Donau Dans (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oeGcBkYeWE)

(https://i.imgur.com/Ele9LpR.jpg)

Released in The Netherlands in April 1982 - did not chart
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 22, 2021, 07:28:11 PM
Down At The Superstore - The Assistants. Released on BBC in 1982

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/9856/yt1DK8.jpg)

Lyrically makes that Swap Shop single seem like Elvis Costello's Shipbuilding.

The Assistants One-off 'Supergroup' featuring: Junior, Cheryl Baker,  Dave Edmunds, Suzi Quatro, and B. A. Cunterson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AJm5bozpgA
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Post by: daf on January 22, 2021, 07:55:47 PM
The Tweets ‎– Everybody Go (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXmPdb1noBE)

(https://i.imgur.com/Hb80JW4.jpg)

Released in August 1982 - did not chart

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"The Birdie Song" was composed by accordion player Werner Thomas from Davos, Switzerland, in the 1950s. The name of the original Swiss song was "Der Ententanz" ('The Duck Dance'), and played regularly in restaurants and hotels. During one of Thomas' performances, Belgian producer Louis van Rymenant heard the song, and had some lyrics created.

In 1980, Dutch local band "De Electronica's" released an instrumental version called "De Vogeltjesdans" ("The dance of the little birds") as the B-side of a single. The A-side was not a hit, but local radio stations in the south and east of the Netherlands decided to flip the disc - [it's a good story, but I've checked discogs and 45cat, and it's definitely listed as the A-side - wth 'Radio 2000' as the B-side] - The record entered the Dutch charts and stayed there for over seven months, and started the international success of the song.

(https://i.imgur.com/WP7uG9x.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/hF5FbJb.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/iGfCTtN.jpg)

In 1981, Henry Hadaway produced a version of the song, which was released in the United Kingdom as an instrumental novelty tune "The Birdie Song" by The Tweets. It reached number two in the singles chart in October 1981, making it the most popular version.

(https://i.imgur.com/TqL07E1.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/pDnWPpD.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/Zuuea20.jpg)

The follow up "Let's All Sing Like The Birdies Sing" reached #44 in December 1981. Further flop singles included "Everybody Go" in April 1982, "Tweets On 45" in August 1982, "The Plump Song" in 1983, and "Patricia" in April 1985.
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Post by: Johnboy on January 22, 2021, 08:03:58 PM
great stuff
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 22, 2021, 09:52:35 PM
The Room - Things Have Learnt To Walk That Ought To Crawl

https://youtu.be/nbzeLaYSK6U (https://youtu.be/nbzeLaYSK6U)

(https://img.discogs.com/feMZT1ladDPIeRytD6NdkaHwJsQ=/300x300/smart/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/A-606762-1278963798.jpeg.jpg)

From Liverpool and formed in late 1979. They released three albums and several singles (this is their third) before breaking up in 1985.
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on January 22, 2021, 09:54:54 PM
Emmylou Harris and the Hot Band- Grevious Angel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1oftchWWpc&feature=emb_logo

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.YpThL5lRyM3ulAxGc-3ZqwHaGf?w=196&h=180&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7)

Born in Alabama in 1947, country singer Emmylou Harris performed on the 60's Greenwich Village folk scene and was for a while in the early 70's the backing vocalist
in Gram Parsons' band before becoming well-known for her 1975 solo album "Pieces of the Sky". On this 1982 live album she performs one of Parsons' best songs.
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Post by: daf on January 22, 2021, 10:00:00 PM
Arlene Phillips' HOT GOSSIP - I Don't Depend On You (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnDNwZnWNqk)

(https://i.imgur.com/xyxjpEh.jpg)

Released in April 1982 -  did not chart

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Arlene Phillips moved to London to learn and teach developing American jazz dance routines. Employed as a dance teacher, she taught at locations including the Pineapple Dance Studios and the Italia Conti Stage School. In 1974, Phillips started forming the core of a troupe, and Hot Gossip spent two years performing in Munkberry's club in Jermyn Street, London W1, where Phillips and manager/producers Michael Summerton and Iain Burton developed the group's dance act.

Spotted by the British television director David Mallet, he invited Phillips to make Hot Gossip a regular feature of the 1978 The Kenny Everett Video Show, which he directed for Thames Television on ITV. In 1978, Hot Gossip recorded "Making Love on a Phone" and with Sarah Brightman on lead vocals recorded "I Lost My Heart to a Starship Trooper", which reached number 6 in the UK Singles Chart.

(https://i.imgur.com/zpZ9oHU.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/sjaiUfo.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/ffSUO4Y.jpg)

After hastily signing The Human League in 1978, it became apparent to Virgin Records that the band were not very profitable, with none of their releases making any impact on the charts. Pressure was put on the group to use conventional instruments in an attempt to be more commercial and sell more records. Martyn Ware reluctantly agreed but insisted that any material recorded this way should be released under a pseudonym to ensure that it wasn't confused with the pure electronic sound of The Human League.

"I Don't Depend on You" was the only product of this compromise with Virgin. Written by Philip Oakey, Martyn Ware and Ian Craig Marsh, it was recorded with the addition of session musicians and was released under the name The Men. Released as a single in the UK in February 1979, it failed to chart. British dance troupe Hot Gossip covered the song for their 1981 album Geisha Boys and Temple Girls which was produced by Martyn Ware.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 22, 2021, 10:16:33 PM
The Wake - Company

https://youtu.be/JlINKpRBVZg (https://youtu.be/JlINKpRBVZg)

(https://factorybenelux.com/images/fbn95cd.jpg)

Recorded live in Glasgow Nightmoves and released as a bonus on Testament, a best of collection, alongside a bunch of other early demos and live tracks.
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Post by: Phil_A on January 22, 2021, 10:38:04 PM
Felt - I Worship The Sun (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxm9iPmJkzc)

(https://img.discogs.com/yRYBBzSppBd7i8UxuNFmmyvwbfo=/fit-in/600x591/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-528962-1389916263-3304.jpeg.jpg)

A lovely showcase for Maurice Deebank's nimble fingerwork from the 1982 debut album, "Crumbling The Antiseptic Beauty".

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Felt were an English indie pop band, formed in 1979 in Water Orton, Warwickshire, and led by the mononymous Lawrence.[1] They were active for ten years through the 1980s, releasing ten singles and ten albums. The band's name was inspired by Tom Verlaine's emphasis of the word "felt" in the Television song "Venus".

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With Lawrence initially on vocals and guitar, they formed properly in 1980 with the addition of schoolfriend Nick Gilbert on drums and local guitarist Maurice Deebank.[1][9] Becoming co-writer with Lawrence, Deebank's jangly, classical-influenced style of playing would provide the band's signature sound in its early years.[10]

The band performed as a trio before deciding that bass guitar was needed. Gilbert switched to bass and drummer Tony Race was added.[1] He was replaced soon after by Gary Ainge who would remain the only constant member besides Lawrence throughout the rest of Felt's existence, as well as the only member to play on all ten of their albums.

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Post by: daf on January 23, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
Keith Harris And Orville ‎(with the children from Allfarthing Primary School, Wandsworth) – I Didn't (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-XT_XU-Mzo)

(https://i.imgur.com/RtQuRpM.jpg)

Flip-side of 'Orville's Song' - reached number 4 in the UK charts in December 1982

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Keith Shenton Harris was the son of variety performers. His mother was a dancer, while his father was a singer, comedian and ventriloquist. From age nine Harris appeared on his father Norman's knee as a "dummy" in his ventriloquist act. Harris began creating ventriloquism characters as a teenager. After appearing in summer seasons at holiday resorts, he had spots on the television series Let's Laugh in 1965, and became a popular act on television variety shows, including a spell as the host of The Black and White Minstrel Show. He had his first solo series Cuddles and Company in the 1970s, but got his big break in 1982 with The Keith Harris Show.

(https://i.imgur.com/NCxZuX0.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/JMBrgZQ.jpg)

Harris' best known creation, Orville the duck, came about after he saw some green fur lying around backstage at a performance of The Black and White Minstrel Show in Bristol. Orville, a huge, gormless, falsetto-voiced green duckling sporting a nappy fastened by a giant safety pin, quickly became Harris main puppet - causing a bitter feud between Orville and the hideous orange monkey Cuddles - not helped when his song "I Hate That Duck" was relegated to the B-side of the single, "Will You Still Love Me In The Morning?", released in April 1983.

(https://i.imgur.com/VXnjDTk.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/CgNNjwx.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/pGQChNJ.jpg)   

Cuddles was particularly furious, as "that duck" had hogged both sides of their debut single, "Orville's song", which was written by Bobby Crush, sold 400,000 copies, and was later voted the worst song ever recorded - though most of those votes were rumoured to be from an embittered Cuddles. Further singles included "Come to My Party" in December 1983 - peaking at #44 in December 1983, "Bein' Green" in May 1984, "Superduck" in November 1984, and "White Christmas" - which reached #40 in November 1985.

(https://i.imgur.com/VT7whez.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/8OzdOmM.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/gD3nqYt.jpg)

The end of Harris's television show coincided with a period when television was "turning away from variety acts". He entered a period of depression, drank heavily and was arrested for drunk driving; his third marriage collapsed during this period. He also opened clubs in Blackpool and Portugal which failed, leading him to declare bankruptcy twice. However, he recovered and began performing in clubs, in pantomimes and at holiday camps, touring the United Kingdom..

Check out those horrific early puppets - don't have nightmares everyone!
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 23, 2021, 12:10:02 AM
Wah! - Remember

https://youtu.be/4iLeiFF9qgQ (https://youtu.be/4iLeiFF9qgQ)

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/-5MAAOSwfHZevxy1/s-l225.jpg)

Fifth single from Wylie's mob. It reached number 44 in the Festive Fifty.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 23, 2021, 03:41:25 AM
Don't Look Back - Madness. Released on Stiff in 1982.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5852/SDLG8b.jpg)

The B side of their first UK number one, showing yet again they will not be pinned down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXsbhTwXjs0
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 23, 2021, 07:39:14 AM
23 Skidoo - IY

(https://img.discogs.com/boQUa1IYBdGuzBK5Pzehj28Kxcw=/fit-in/600x597/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1645481-1235761566.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bMD0Mj_1Nc

From 23 Skidoo's debut album Seven Songs, which was recorded and mixed in three days, and was co-produced by Tony, Terry and David, aka Genesis P-Orridge, and Peter Christopherson of Throbbing Gristle/Psychic TV and engineer Ken Thomas. The album reached no 1 in the UK indie chart.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 23, 2021, 07:51:15 AM
Chris & Cosey - Impulse

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0238/8053/products/Chris_Cosey_Trance-300dpi_8580eae4-8804-4b59-8c34-c56c09b231dd.jpg?v=1571438738)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R55H8GfhF_o

From their album Trance. This is some futuristic shit.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 23, 2021, 08:19:06 AM
Soft Cell - A Man Could Get Lost

(https://www.platekompaniet.no//globalassets/imported-images/cd/2000338804.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IieKRZY2r6Y

Not the version from a year earlier, which I think is ruined by the vocals, but the version from the remix EP Non-stop Ecstatic Dancing. As far as I can gather, it was criticised for being too similar to Non-stop Erotic Cabaret, but I think it's far more interesting than its parent album and has stood the test of time better.

This short article by its producer Mike Thorne is worth a read: https://stereosociety.com/nonstopecstatic/
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on January 23, 2021, 09:13:05 AM
Chris and Chris and Cosey and Cosey.

Chris and Cosey- Impulse

Chris & Cosey - Impulse

It's funny how some later, retro-styled electronic music, like Aphex's Analord series sounds exactly like this, in a way that never quite happens with retro rock music.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 23, 2021, 09:30:18 AM
Chris and Chris and Cosey and Cosey.

Fuck! No way. Sorry I missed your submission. The early 80s is an absolute goldmine. I'm finding it hard to keep up.

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It's funny how some later, retro-styled electronic music, like Aphex's Analord series sounds exactly like this, in a way that never quite happens with retro rock music.

I suppose there's a feeling that due to early synthesiser music being mostly created by people with money and/or expertise in electronics, that sound world was never fully explored. Rock music's relative accessibility meant stylistic scenes were able to develop, which exhausted the possibilities in those sound worlds.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 23, 2021, 10:17:06 AM
John Cale - Close Watch

(https://werksman.home.xs4all.nl/cale/img/cale_big_home_1982.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7wBvyrao8I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7wBvyrao8I)

Bagpipe desolation from the former VU lynchpin.

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Cale described his mood while making his 1982 album, Music for a New Society, as "grotesque." In an interview with Melody Maker shortly after the album's release, Cale was quoted as saying "That album was agony. It was like method acting. Madness. Excruciating. I just let myself go. It became a kind of therapy, a personal exorcism. The songs are mostly about regret and misplaced faith."

In What's Welsh for Zen?, Cale further commented that "There were some examples where songs ended up so emaciated they weren't songs any more. What I was most interested in was the terror of the moment... It was a bleak record all right, but it wasn't made to make people jump out of windows."
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Post by: Better Midlands on January 23, 2021, 12:01:37 PM
Man Parrish - Hip Hop Be Bop (https://youtu.be/7tsfJn8YdwQ)

(https://img.discogs.com/qsOH0m4LTRRdo5oviz4e49aJdeA=/fit-in/600x593/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-25797-1188888864.jpeg.jpg)

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Parrish is a native New Yorker of Italian descent. He attended the High School For The Performing Arts and the Academy For Dramatic Arts (NYC) as a teenager. He moonlighted as a non singing, onstage “extra” role in several operas at The Metropolitan Opera House in Manhattan.

Parrish left home at the age of 14 and was a member of the extended family that converged nightly at Studio 54. His nickname, Man, first appeared in Andy Warhol's Interview magazine. Andy Warhol gave him the name “Man”. His early live shows at Bronx hip-hop clubs were spectacles of lights, glitter, and pyrotechnics, which drew as much from the Warhol mystique as the Cold Crush Brothers.

Hip- Hop- Be- Bop is beyond a classic, beyond a genre defining masterpiece, and beyond the boundaries of earth music. Emotional, melancholic, interplanetary space funk for the intelligent b-boy & electronic listener alike. This was for many a life changing record. 20/10

If you want to see a lovely camp old NY queen (his words, not mine) discuss how he made this track I highly recommend (along with all the other videos on his channel) this video (https://youtu.be/okzrzLP0nNY) on the subject.
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Post by: Phil_A on January 23, 2021, 12:24:11 PM
Klaus Nomi - After The Fall (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJpGkkebIZ4)

(https://img.discogs.com/Jn9AchAsA4bhw8zm6SxIoKMkTQM=/fit-in/600x597/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-582395-1170200531.jpeg.jpg)

One for the "Sad Bangers" thread.

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Klaus Sperber (January 24, 1944 – August 6, 1983), known professionally as Klaus Nomi, was a German countertenor noted for his wide vocal range and an unusual, otherworldly stage persona.

Nomi was known for his bizarrely visionary theatrical live performances, heavy make-up, unusual costumes, and a highly stylized signature hairdo that flaunted a receding hairline. His songs were equally unusual, ranging from synthesizer-laden interpretations of classical opera to covers of 1960s pop standards like Chubby Checker's "The Twist" and Lou Christie's "Lightnin' Strikes". He is remembered in the United States as one of David Bowie's backup singers for a 1979 performance on Saturday Night Live.[1]

Nomi died in 1983 at the age of 39 as a result of complications from AIDS. He was one of the earliest known figures from the arts community to die from the illness.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 23, 2021, 03:03:31 PM
The Gun Club - Mother of Earth
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/28/GCMiami.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvvGM3QhtOg

From the Gun Club's 1982 album Miami, a shiveringly beautiful song and one I often find myself sticking on repeat. Some lovely slide work on this, and Rowland S Howard's live cover is also worth tracking down and checking out. This song feels ancient, hewn from rock.
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Post by: daf on January 23, 2021, 03:12:25 PM
The England World Cup Squad ‎– England, We'll Fly The Flag (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov68YsZGlI0)

(https://i.imgur.com/pkIjc22.jpg)

The 'Second Half' of the single 'This Time (We'll Get It Right)' - reached #2 in April 1982

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'England, We'll Fly The Flag' was adapted by 'Gotta write a Classic, Gotta write it in an Attic' hit-maker Adrian Gurvitz from a song written for the 'We'll Take More Care Of You' British Airways advertising campaign by Jake Holmes - a prolific American jingle writer behind other smash hits such as the U.S. Army's “Be All That You Can Be” and Pan Am’s “We Fly the World The Way the World Wants to Fly”.

(https://i.imgur.com/QssqakG.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/g3HLPrE.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/0J2AGTE.jpg) 

'Fly The Flag (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJZm4aQYe7w)' was released as a promotional flexi-disc in 1975, and given out to members of the British Airways Junior Jet Club. Incorrectly rumoured to be the singer on the record, the cover featured stewardess Rosalind Anne Rosemary "Roz" Hanby. After modelling work, she joined BOAC in 1970 as a flight attendant on VC10 aircraft. At the time, Hanby was signed to a 10-year contract with the airline and was not prepared for the fame that would ensue. Because she was constantly being asked for her autograph, BA moved her to Concorde flights, which she recalled as a relief : "it was great because everyone was more famous than me."
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on January 23, 2021, 03:53:19 PM
Scientist- Dangerous Match 7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUNNBT3xBoU
(https://img.discogs.com/iqKOKZnDk0DMob9YAu9OqZBUJEs=/fit-in/500x500/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-155367-1377700972-7773.jpeg.jpg)

Stunning goal from the Jamaican striker.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 23, 2021, 04:35:35 PM
Klacto Vee Sedstein - Blue Rondo À La Turk Released on Diable Noir in 1982.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/506/qaeJjx.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5611/F5eQm9.jpg)

This was a regular floor filler that year at my local teenage disco, The End Of The Universe. I can't fathom why it wasn't a bigger hit, as it barely scraped the top 50.

Blue Rondo À La Turk were an early 1980s British latin/jazz/pop group, disbanded in 1984. Chris Sullivan formed Matt Bianco out of the ashes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pKJlrRx3XM&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: daf on January 23, 2021, 05:14:40 PM
The Scottish World Cup Squad ‎– Wrap Up the Cup (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDW7y2zUoMc)

(https://i.imgur.com/YldNEIY.jpg)

B-side of the single We Have A Dream - reached #5 in May 1982

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"We Have A Dream" was a special single released as the official song of the Scotland national football team for their 1982 World Cup Campaign. When first released, it reached number 5 in the UK Singles Chart.

(https://i.imgur.com/wQo1b5s.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/KPgWNTQ.jpg)

The single was re-released in 2008 to raise money for BBC Children In Need, featuring a host of celebrities and produced by original writer BA Cuntertson. The celebrities included Samuel L. Jackson, Ashley Jensen, Dougray Scott, Billy Boyd, Chris Hoy, Ally McCoist, Spud from The Brumbeats, Fred MacAulay, Karen Dunbar and Elaine C. Smith, along with Gregory's Girl actor John Gordon Sinclair who sang the original. Scotland's 2010 FIFA World Cup qualification match against Norway also saw the "Tartan Army" play their part, as the fans were recorded roaring along to the track at half-time, helped by a karaoke-style follow-the-bouncing-haggis prompt on the big screens at Hampden Park.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 23, 2021, 05:35:19 PM
I suspect we won't be seeing much of BA Cunterson after 1982, as that was pretty much his peak as a chart-bothering act. Oh well!
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 23, 2021, 05:48:36 PM
Marshall Crenshaw - Cynical Girl

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c7/MarshallCrenshawAlbum.jpg/220px-MarshallCrenshawAlbum.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZt1g09yvNg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZt1g09yvNg)

The American Elvis Costello? Sort of. This is a crafty piece of jangling power pop.

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Marshall Crenshaw performed in the musical Beatlemania before releasing his self-titled album in 1982. Though he never replicated the commercial success of Marshall Crenshaw and follow-up Field Day, his work remains critically acclaimed.

Cynical Girl was written as a satire of the "mass culture" that Crenshaw disliked, but the song was not based on a specific girl. Crenshaw first came up with the lyrical concept after being forced to watch an overhead TV while waiting to pay for a traffic ticket. He later reflected that the lyrics had a "humour" and "oddness" to them.

"The part about the girl is just kind of off-the-shelf, rock 'n' roll language. It's really about 'I hate TV.' I'm saying I hate lowest-common-denominator mass-culture bullshit, and that I don't wanna hang around with people who don't. People ask me, 'Did you find the cynical girl yet?' It's not about the girl. It's about the other stuff."
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Post by: daf on January 23, 2021, 05:56:10 PM
I suspect we won't be seeing much of BA Cunterson after 1982, as that was pretty much his peak as a chart-bothering act. Oh well!

Pang! Pang!
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 23, 2021, 06:54:12 PM
The Lemon Kittens - The Hospital Hurts The Girl
(https://assets.catawiki.nl/assets/2020/6/4/1/b/5/1b526226-f2bb-4af1-be44-94354e64a4c3.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbxSBf4eoQY

If you've not listened to The Big Dentist by The Lemon Kittens then my recommendation is that you do so right away, basically. Composed of two multi-instrumentalists Danielle Dax and Karl Blake, the group ended with their romantic relationship in 82 leaving behind this their final album. Both Dax and Blake will be represented by me again in future in this thread.

The Big Dentist is one of my favourite albums and I've gone with this twitchy but incredibly infectious neurotic avant funk rather than any of the more downbeat material on it to hook you, but I could also have picked Oath which sounds like New Orleans funeral music and that will one day be played at my funeral. This is funk yes but it is the funk of a wet nightmare, as opposed to a wet dream. In another world this would have been a huge hit and it's a world I'd rather live in.
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Post by: daf on January 23, 2021, 07:19:46 PM
The Albanian World Cup Squad ‎– Albania! Albania! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBm5M7MUWl8)

(https://i.imgur.com/rZp2Geh.jpg)

Released in 1982 (probably in May) - did not chart

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Alexei Sayle : "I was incredibly ambitious I really wanted to go as far as I possibly could in terms of mass entertainment but I couldn’t not do the sort of stuff I did. The first time I was on this show OTT, which was a late-night primetime on ITV. I sang this song about Albania and then ended with a joke about Stalin.  I was like "You are on primetime. Why are you singing a song about Albania?" People liked it because it was so mad but it didn’t really land with the mass ITV audience. People didn’t go:  "I really liked that guy with his song about Albania the Marxist-Leninist country I’ve barely heard of!"

I was beset by doubt because I had this ravening ambition to get on,  but at the same time I couldn’t be anything other than there was so there was a tremendous conflict there. Ultimately, although I did really well – I had my own TV series and all that – I was eventually surpassed by other people: Rik, obviously, and then French and Saunders who surpassed us all and became megastars."
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on January 23, 2021, 10:08:03 PM
Unlucky for Dave Watson, Cyrille Regis and Tony Morley getting on the cover of the World Cup single, but didn't make the squad, replaced by Terry Butcher, Paul Mariner and Graham Rix.
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Post by: daf on January 23, 2021, 10:23:57 PM
Fran And Anna ‎– It's Scotland Forever (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F94QnGSFC-Q)

(https://i.imgur.com/RJPzpkP.jpg)

Released in May 1982 - did not chart

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Frances Watt and Anna Watt were two Scottish sisters from Coatbridge, North Lanarkshire, who formed a singing duo. They came from a show-biz family, and were child performers touring Lanarkshire clubs from an early age.

Their father was I wish I could be like David Watt, a ventriloquist and children's entertainer who went by the stage name "Valentine Prince". They initially joined their father and sister Lily, a pianist, on stage as puppeteers, and went on to perform as "The Prince Sisters" internationally and on cruise ships in the 1950s and 1960s. In the early 1970s they changed their name to "Fran and Anna", and started to appear regularly on the Scottish Television programme Thingummyjig.

(https://i.imgur.com/C031Bkr.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/AyBJ0Xr.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/jPhEQl8.jpg) 

Fran and Anna were known for their tartan miniskirts, rouged cheeks and fishnet stockings with matching tartan hats, each decorated with a large feather. Their style is often referred to as "tartan kitsch", and are reported to have worn their trademark style daily.

(https://i.imgur.com/QjyNjOI.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/sVG0EBr.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/FqP0OHj.jpg)
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Post by: daf on January 24, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
The Krankies ‎– We're Going To Spain (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjEVzmpKR4Y)

(https://i.imgur.com/n973dYG.jpg)

Released in April 1982 - did not chart

Quote from: Football And Music blog
Fandabi… Please Kill Me Now
Your eyes do not deceive. What you are seeing there according to this eil.com page is the “Official 1982 UK 7″ for the Scottish World Cup team”. There is the addition of the official 1982 Scotland World Cup Mascot called Sandy on the cover to back this up. Plus the SFA copyright below his boot.

Still not a dream.. nightmare more like. It happened. It really happened.

Tried to search for any more info on this offence to… well basically everything… but couldn’t find anything. Searched for information about Sandy, the badly drawn mascot, but again results came up as nought. There was obviously a scorched earth campaign by the Scottish FA to wipe all records, to remove any evidence that it ever existed. But somehow it survived… like Jason in those Halloween movies, it just will not die.

(https://i.imgur.com/3FzLiWU.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/i0Z5bt1.jpg)

Martin : Just to let you know that it was real!! My sister was in the ‘backing group’ which was the primary 7 class from Pencaitland Primary School. It was made in the recording studio in the village so they used the school for the backing signers!!! They appeared on STV news as well……… then vanished from the face of the earth! A good claim to fame though!

Carey Moss : hi in reply to the krankies recording with pencaitland school singing were going to spain yes this really happened im one of those singers , we had a fantastic day at the recording studios in pencaitland , we had a lovely time with the krankies they were lovely , we were on the news too

Pete John Marsall : i was in the final to be the actual real life Sandy mascot and have a life size version still up loft, lol. i also can’t find newspaper archive photos of the centre page competition with my picture to be voted on

Sadly, as can be seen from the press ad for the single, this muck was actually the 'Unofficial' Scottish World Cup song . . . ah well, it was a good story while it lasted!
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 24, 2021, 06:03:20 AM
Ok, we'll move on to 1983 later on Sunday so get your last 82's in.
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Post by: daf on January 24, 2021, 07:23:58 AM
No Laughing ‎– Wor Shu Opp (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQP-NE3zLus)

(https://i.imgur.com/lEwBkYy.jpg)

Released in June 1982 - did not chart

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Wor-Shu Chun Op (Almond Pressed Duck, or Mandarin Pressed Duck) was a popular Cantonese dish in Chinese and Polynesian-themed restaurants in the United States in the middle of the 20th century. Crispy and boneless, it is deep-fried and served in either medium-sized pieces of uniform shape or as an entire duck. It is generally served with a sauce poured over it, either brown or sweet and sour. Crushed or powdered almonds are frequently sprinkled over it just before eating, hence one of its names. Its preparation can be a lengthy process involving a number of steps over a period of several days, making this relatively simple-appearing dish a labor-intensive process. This may explain its virtual disappearance from present-day restaurants: today only a handful of restaurants feature it on their regular menus.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 24, 2021, 08:03:40 AM
The Undertones - The Love Parade

(https://img.discogs.com/lUB8CSd9eSgqCwo_M8GsoTHDwkc=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/A-64687-1106518000.jpg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzukOUcvmTg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzukOUcvmTg)

This Northern Soul-powered banger barely scraped into the top 100. What gives, 1982? The 'tones split up the following year.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 24, 2021, 08:11:29 AM
The Plimsouls - A Million Miles Away

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d9/Plimsouls_circa_1980s.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ31oz0DECw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ31oz0DECw)

Some more skinny tie* Power Pop for your listening and dancing pleasure. The Plimsouls almost had a hit with this, but they never quite managed to break through.

* They're not wearing skinny ties in that photograph, admittedly. But they have a skinny tie state of mind.
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Post by: daf on January 24, 2021, 08:58:53 AM
Uncle Vic ‎– E.T. Phone Home (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhtMdtPprGA)

(https://i.imgur.com/9sbPw0p.jpeg)

Released in 1982 - did not chart

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E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial was a 1982 American science fiction film produced and directed by Steven Spielberg. It tells the story of Elliott, a boy who befriends an extraterrestrial, dubbed E.T., who is stranded on Earth. The concept was based on an imaginary friend Spielberg created after his parents' divorce in 1960, Spielberg filled the void with an imaginary alien companion. He said that the imaginary alien was "a friend who could be the brother I never had and a father that I didn't feel I had anymore".

In 1978, he announced he would shoot a film entitled Growing Up, which he would film in four weeks. The project was set aside because of delays on the production of his film '1941', but the concept of making a small autobiographical film about childhood would stay with him. He also thought about a follow-up to Close Encounters of the Third Kind, and began to develop a darker project he had planned with John Sayles called Night Skies in which malevolent aliens terrorize a family.

(https://i.imgur.com/sXIRh9L.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/k2TJj7F.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/vjDOUx1.jpg)

John Landis suggested Spielberg talk to Rick Baker, who was then working on An American Werewolf In London. When the two met to discuss the project Spielberg described a script along the lines of Peckinpah’s Straw Dogs with creatures that needed distinct personalities. Baker was eventually given character descriptions. A few were Scar (a badass), Squirt (a cute little guy) and Buddy (a creature like the eventual E.T.).
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on January 24, 2021, 09:28:49 AM
King Sunny Ade-The Message
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6FVC1iS-oI
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/42/Juju_Music_%28album%29.jpg)

Nigerian bandleader Sunday Adeniyi Adegeye had been making records since the sixties, but this was his first record to crossover to Euro/U.S. audiences. Some superb trebly slide guitar on this.
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Post by: daf on January 24, 2021, 09:32:04 AM
Dickie Goodman ‎– Hey, E.T. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AslAi0CrTMc)

(https://i.imgur.com/jDrC3ix.jpg)

Released in 1982 - did not chart

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In 1980, While on the set of Raiders of the Lost Ark, Steven Spielberg met Melissa Mathison and developed a new story from the failed project Night Skies.

Steven Spielberg : "I might have taken leave of my senses. Throughout Raiders, I was in between killing Nazis and blowing up flying wings and having Harrison Ford in all this high serialized adventure, I was sitting there in the middle of Tunisia, scratching my head and saying, 'I've got to get back to the tranquillity, or at least the spirituality, of Close Encounters.'"

Spielberg drew the story of the film from his parents' divorce. References to his childhood occur throughout: Elliott fakes illness by holding a thermometer to the bulb in his lamp while covering his face with a heating pad, a trick frequently employed by the young Spielberg. Michael picking on Elliott echoes Spielberg's teasing of his younger sisters, and Michael's evolution from tormentor to protector reflects how Spielberg had to take care of his sisters after their father left.

Melissa Mathison : "the idea of an alien creature who was benevolent, tender, emotional and sweet... and the idea of the creature's striking up a relationship with a child who came from a broken home was very affecting".

(https://i.imgur.com/QA9FsKX.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/b2l1KiC.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/HLfTDRA.jpg) 

At the film's heart is the theme of growing up. Critic Henry Sheehan described the film as a retelling of Peter Pan from the perspective of a Lost Boy (Elliott): E.T. cannot survive physically on Earth, as Pan could not survive emotionally in Neverland. Other critics found religious parallels between E.T. and Jesus. Universal Pictures appealed directly to the Christian market, with a poster reminiscent of Michelangelo's The Creation of Adam (more specifically the "fingers touching" detail) and a logo reading "Peace." Spielberg answered that he did not intend the film to be a religious parable, joking, "If I ever went to my mother and said, 'Mom, I've made this movie that's a Christian parable,' what do you think she'd say? She has a Kosher restaurant on Pico and Doheny in Los Angeles."
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Post by: daf on January 24, 2021, 10:32:39 AM
Donna Rhodes ‎– Extra Terrestrial (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78wf2OIRMnA)

(https://i.imgur.com/JUhY0du.jpg)

Released in the Netherlands in December 1982 - did not chart

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Filming took place from September to December 1981 on a budget of $10.5 million. Unlike most films, it was shot in rough chronological order, to facilitate convincing emotional performances from the young cast. The animatronics of E.T. were designed by Carlo Rambaldi.

Released on June 11, 1982, by Universal Pictures, E.T. was an immediate blockbuster, surpassing Star Wars to become the highest-grossing film of all time—a record it held for 11 years until Jurassic Park,

(https://i.imgur.com/Ux5Kjv5.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/jDjHRQn.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/TuAUHmN.jpg) 

In July 1982, during the film's first theatrical run, Spielberg and Mathison wrote a treatment for a sequel to be titled E.T. II: Nocturnal Fears. It would have shown Elliott and his friends getting kidnapped by evil aliens, and attempting to contact E.T. for help. Spielberg decided against pursuing it, feeling it "would do nothing but rob the original of its virginity. E.T. is not about going back to the planet".
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 24, 2021, 11:22:05 AM
A.P.O - O Superman
(https://img.discogs.com/13DD5cR883LUW_Tk0rteiZP_h7c=/fit-in/600x604/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-240573-1509900227-7350.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_dJuvWi-js

This Italo track perversely remodels Laurie Anderson's O Superman into a sparse, weird proto-house banger. The metal crashes and the harshness of some of the synth textures verge on the industrial, but this somehow also manages to be as emotive as the original. This is the work of mega Italo producer Salvatore Annunziata also responsible for Klein and MBO and Pink Project stuff.
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on January 24, 2021, 11:44:42 AM
Sister Nancy- Chalice a Fe Burn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YexL5pxVgV0
(https://img.discogs.com/RBMSarKWsp2RJq5BNP5UxzQG6YM=/fit-in/595x595/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1998249-1457990423-7243.jpeg.jpg)
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.wA3ujlxHvnlBusHpGjYRRgHaI8?w=139&h=180&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7)
Light years away from the masterful dub wizardry of some of reggae productions we've had in the thread so far, or even from her own 1982 hit Bam Bam is a rough dictaphone-quality tune by dancehall MC Sister Nancy, from an ultra low-budget LP, "recorded 1982 at Skateland Roller Disco, Half Way Tree,Kingston"
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 24, 2021, 11:46:51 AM
Oppenheimer Analysis - The Devil's Dancers
(https://assets.boomkat.com/spree/products/179450/large/original.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caP3tAmMEbc

Another that'd be a hit in a saner fairer world, Oppenheimer Analysis are the project of Andie Oppenheimer and Martin Lloyd. Their album New Mexico was a hyper obscure one off cassette release at the time that became a bit of a cult hit; an expanded issue on Minimal Wave came following Martin Lloyd's death. As I'm a bit of a sucker for synth arpeggios, squelchy synth bass and mechanised drums behind Bowie / Foxx worship posting it in this thread. "There's room at the top / Doo wop, doo wop".

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Post by: daf on January 24, 2021, 12:03:04 PM
Marty Merchant ‎– E.T.s Helping Santa (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bf-hvh4lb4)

(https://i.imgur.com/ieg7QkD.jpg)

Released in 1982 on festive red space-vinyl - did not chart

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Atari, Inc. produced a video game based on the film for the Atari 2600 and hired Howard Scott Warshaw to program the game. The game was rushed in five weeks to release within the 1982 holiday season. Released in Christmas 1982, the game was critically panned, with nearly every aspect of the game facing heavy criticism. It has since been considered to be one of the worst video games ever made. It was also a commercial failure. It has been cited as a major contributing factor to the video game industry crash of 1983, and has been frequently referenced and mocked in popular culture as a cautionary tale about the dangers of rushed game development and studio interference.

(https://i.imgur.com/J7qG3aV.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/ojjpiHK.jpg)

In September 1983, the Alamogordo Daily News of Alamogordo, New Mexico, reported in a series of articles that between ten and twenty truckloads of Atari boxes, cartridges, and systems from an Atari storehouse in El Paso, Texas, were crushed and buried at the landfill within the city, which was covered with concrete. Atari officials and others gave differing reports of what was buried, but it has been speculated that most unsold copies of E.T. are buried in this landfill, crushed and encased in cement.

(https://i.imgur.com/PND5l2a.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/hZlGytz.jpg) 

The story of the buried cartridges was erroneously regarded by some as an urban legend, with skeptics—including Warshaw—disregarding the official accounts. On May 28, 2013, the Alamogordo City Commission approved Fuel Industries, an Ottawa-based entertainment company, for six months of landfill access. On April 26, 2014, remnants of E.T. and other Atari games were discovered in the early hours of the excavation. In December 2014, the Smithsonian Institution added an excavated cartridge of E.T. to their collection.

Howard Scott Warshaw : "People worry I might be sensitive about the E.T. debacle, but the fact is I'm always happy to discuss it. After all, it was the fastest game ever done, it was a million seller, and of the thousands of 2600 games, how many others are still a topic? Another thing I like to think about is having done E.T. (consistently rated among the worst games of all time) and Yars' Revenge (consistently rated as one of the best) I figure I have the unique distinction of having the greatest range of any game designer in history."
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Post by: Gregory Torso on January 24, 2021, 12:22:56 PM
Mickey Bliss - Cocktails For Two (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYLOXiw_dyA)

Pistoning rhythm machines, low battery tape warp, synth chord bliss pop. Sex dungeon music like a neon dildo in the waltzing fog. The walls are melting.

(https://i.imgur.com/FhCspA5.jpg)
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Post by: daf on January 24, 2021, 12:32:16 PM
The Chipmunks ‎– E.T. & Me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX5BFJuqwhE)

(https://i.imgur.com/zETX9D2.jpg)

Featured on the album 'The Chipmunks Go Hollywood' - released in 1982

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Alvin and the Chipmunks were created and originally voiced by Ross Bagdasarian, Sr. The group consisted of three singing animated chipmunks: Alvin, the mischievous troublemaker; Simon, the tall, bespectacled intellectual; and Theodore, the chubby, impressionable sweetheart.

In 1958, Bagdasarian released 'Witch Doctor' a novelty song (as David Seville) about being unsuccessful at love until he found a witch doctor who told him how to woo his woman. The song was done by Bagdasarian in his normal voice, except for the "magic" words, done first in Bagdasarian's pitched-up, pre-Chipmunk voice, then in a duet between his pitched-up voice and his normal voice. The words themselves are nonsense: "Oo-ee, oo-ah-ah, ting-tang, walla-walla, bing-bang".

The follow-up song, "The Bird on My Head", singing a duet with his own sped-up voice as the bird, and reached the Top 40 - peaking at No. 34. While driving in Sequoia National Park, Bagdasarian saw a chipmunk dash in front of him. That moment inspired him to create his chipmunk characters. Bagdasarian planned to have a singing group of reindeer, alligators, hippopotami, grasshoppers, birds, rabbits, pigs, hedgehogs, dogs, mustelid carnivores, worms, and elephants, but everyone who heard the demo called them chipmunks due to being familiar with Disney's chipmunk duo, so Ross relented and changed them to chipmunks.

(https://i.imgur.com/6FJG8wL.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/pedSZ1D.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/uUrR9H7.jpg) 

The final album of the original incarnation of The Chipmunks was released in 1969. After Bagdasarian passed away in 1972, the group was given a reprise in 1980 by Ross Bagdasarian, Sr.'s son, Ross Bagdasarian Jr., beginning with the album Chipmunk Punk using new voices and animated characters.
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Post by: Gregory Torso on January 24, 2021, 12:34:40 PM
Thick Pigeon - Tracy & Pansy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGb_lwDDLBY)

A dubby, clattering reworking of Fats Domino's 'I Wanna Walk You Home', lovely stuff and such a good band name.

Released another single in the same year, Subway, which is another favourite.


(https://i.imgur.com/mjyU3dd.jpg)

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One of the more mysterious artists to record for the stylish Crépuscule/Factory axis, Thick Pigeon was essentially a vehicle for songwriter Stanton Miranda and arranger Carter Burwell. Based in New York, the pop-art duo recorded a brace of oblique, minimalist singles for Les Disques du Crépuscule before moving sideways to Factory Records for their first album.
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Post by: daf on January 24, 2021, 12:35:52 PM
Barnes And Barnes - I Had Sex With E.T. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpY4k2fdrTo)

(https://i.imgur.com/uB8gilC.jpg) 

Released on a four track EP in 1982 - did not chart

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I Had Sex with E.T.” is distinguished in Steven Spielberg’s biography as “perhaps the most egregious unauthorized product” related to the sci-fi blockbuster. Adding insult to injury, one half of the group that wrote and recorded the song was Billy Mumy, who had played Will Robinson on Lost in Space as a child actor.

(https://i.imgur.com/hvQMoKn.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/3AcGgQY.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/HIe9hcw.jpg)

Barnes & Barnes’ erotic outer-space adventure in intellectual property rights was over almost as soon as it began. It is alleged that, when the duo had sold just 73 copies of the EP’s limited run of 200, they received a stern warning from Spielberg’s or Universal’s lawyers that compelled them to delete the release. Each cover was hand-painted.
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Post by: Jockice on January 24, 2021, 01:03:04 PM
I Think I Need Help - The Farmer's Boys

Debut single by the either the first, second or third best band in Norwich (it was a close thing with them, The Higsons and Serious Drinking around at the same time.)

Later described as the 'greatest band on earth,' by Julie Burchill, who added 'nobody sounds stood-up better. Not even The Smiths.'' And people say she's crazy, eh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D1HhQUrlco

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Post by: daf on January 24, 2021, 01:30:52 PM
The Fabulous Billygoons ‎– Billygoon Party Rap (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0DqIkww-tg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uJFl9XU.jpg)

Featured on the 12" mini album "Rhapsody In Flatulence" - released in 1982

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Jan Crocker [Felix Kruell] : "I was doing a sports talk show at WMBR, so I was in contact with some of the Spit regulars who spun records there, people like Thom Lane and Tony V. They challenged the Sports Palace crew to come up with something creative for a benefit that was going to be held at Spit. We decided to quickly put together a spasm band to perform. So we wrote a few catchy tunes like “Hot Sauce” and “Hemorrhoids” and came up with the name for the band, the Fabulous Billygoons. We were godawful, but we brought the house down with the stage act. John Lyons was so amused he gave me my own Spit card that night with my Billygoon alias on it, Dr. Felix Kruell. And he provided a strip of free-drink tickets for the band that stretched from my head to my toes. Pat and John were always very generous guys."

(https://i.imgur.com/fI1l0eC.jpg)  (https://i.postimg.cc/Dfd8frLk/106588315-2813653662213291-1619516397378532981-o.jpg)

Felix Kruell [Jan Crocker] : "This sort of shit is unacceptable even for the somewhat a-political Goons. We never took ourselves seriously, but we are plenty serious about suing Trump's sorry arse for using the "Party Rap" as an anthem for his moronic lemmings. We stopped short of suing the Beastie Boys when they ripped off the "Party Rap" for their own use, but we will be happy to engage Trump in a legal steel cage match with the last righteous man left standing!"

From what I've been able to find out, these were a Comedy band who emerged out of the Boston Punk scene around 1980.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 24, 2021, 01:40:02 PM
Spring Has Sprung - The Saucers Released on BBC in 1982.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/6978/9oyKqr.jpg)

Cheggers, Mags Philbin are back but sans skin basher, Edmonds. Written by The Cunterson. Again.

Nuff said.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L163hKqf-6g
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Post by: daf on January 24, 2021, 02:08:54 PM
Rich Little ‎– President's Rap (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TziRYLua58s)

(https://i.imgur.com/iDEuFFF.jpg)

Released in 1982 - did not chart

Quote
Richard Caruthers Little was born in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. In his early teens, he formed a partnership with Geoff Scott, another budding impressionist, concentrating on reproducing the voices of Canadian politicians such as Prime Minister John Diefenbaker and Ottawa mayor Charlotte Whitton. Little became a relief announcer on Ottawa radio station CFRA, before being hired as a disc jockey on CJET in Smiths Falls, Ontario.

In 1963, Little issued two LPs : "My Fellow Canadians", which he performed with Les Lye and which concentrated on Canadian political satire and featured Little and two other actors impersonating figures well-known to a Canadian audience; and "Scrooge and the Stars", which featured Little acting out Charles Dickens' A Christmas Carol entirely on his own, playing all the roles as 22 different Hollywood stars, ranging from Jack Benny to Jack Webb. The album was released in early November but it had to be withdrawn a few weeks later due to the assassination of John F. Kennedy as Little had imitated JFK in the role of the Spirit of Christmas Present and had Kennedy say the line “Scrooge, my life upon the globe is brief; it ends tonight. In fact, it ends as fast as you can say your name.”

(https://i.imgur.com/QQIraAu.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/WbTezEi.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/xht71ZR.jpg)

One of his best-known impressions is of US President, and blue-chinned ghoul, Richard Nixon. During the 1970s, Little made many television appearances portraying Nixon and once performed his impersonation in front of Nixon himself, who Little says did not realize he was imitating him at all and "wondered why I was talking to him in such a funny voice."
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 24, 2021, 03:01:07 PM
Denial - California Dreaming
(https://img.discogs.com/WooPsIYArE-zj8p2cThn_NAjtnk=/fit-in/500x500/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-971449-1452490570-6291.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_tP6LPLjJY

An utterly gorgeous sparse electronic gothed up version of California Dreaming here by Denial from Australia, one of many acts retrospectively lumped into the whole minimal wave movement to have made one single then split.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Astronaut Omens on January 24, 2021, 03:12:52 PM
Rich Little ‎– President's Rap (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TziRYLua58s)



Released in 1982 - did not chart

Weirdly, that track is mentioned in the comments for this video:
Tom Tom Club and Mister Yellow- Yella
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oBY0WlUQjGs

It's a remix of the Tom Tom Club's "Genius of Love" single with Tina Weymouth's vocal replaced with this comedy Mc-ing thing which sounds like it's supposed to be a parody of something (or is it supposed to be a 'funny foreigner)'. Was Mister Yellow, no relation to Jamaican dancehall MC Yellowman, Rich Little doing a thing?
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Post by: Phil_A on January 24, 2021, 03:27:02 PM
The Better Beatles - Penny Lane (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g-Dr1Xhk8A)

(https://hearnebraska.org/wp-content/uploads/files/Better-Beatles.jpg)

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The Better Beatles were a short-lived post-punk band formed in Omaha, Nebraska in 1981. The group consisted of Kurt Magnuson on bass, Dave Nordin on synthesizer, Jean pSmith on vocals, and Jay Rosen on drums and vocals.[1] Their repertoire consisted entirely of cold, minimalist covers of the songs of The Beatles in an irreverent manner comparable to covers performed by The Residents.[2]

Nordin has stated that he considered the Beatles “an oppressive influence,” and pSmith has said their goal was to “[strip] the songs of their sacred status.”[3] After a handful of shows, they recorded an album’s worth of material in late 1981. They broke up shortly before their debut single "Penny Lane”/“I’m Down” was released on Woodgrain Records, leaving the bulk of their music unreleased.

The single received some play from John Peel in the UK and the band was mentioned in The Village Voice by critic Robert Christgau as a candidate for the Best Name Award in the annual Pazz & Jop Critics Poll.[4] There was some interest from labels, but the members had already moved on, with pSmith and Magnuson having relocated to Seattle. Attention died down and the band was largely forgotten for over two decades. Rosen went on to perform as a guitarist with the Altamont Boys, the backing band for The Legendary Stardust Cowboy.[5] Due to a growing cult interest online, pSmith tracked down Rosen and the two of them compiled the “Penny Lane” single and the remaining recorded material into an album, Mercy Beat, which was released in 2007.[6] The cultural organization Hear Nebraska has described the album as “some of the definitive Nebraska recordings of the punk-rock era.”[

Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on January 24, 2021, 03:36:57 PM
The Qworymen ‎– Beatle Rap (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82fZ4tO_NTs)

(https://i.imgur.com/53ddx6P.jpg)

Released in 1982 - despite coming out in a variety of novelty shaped vinyl, including 'Square' for Grandad, 'Star' for the teenagers, and the trad. arr. 'round' for mum and dad - it failed to chart.

(https://i.imgur.com/rApHyQn.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/p7lIjUY.jpg)
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 24, 2021, 04:01:51 PM
Pushin' Too Hard - Paul Parker
(https://img.discogs.com/mGhwWqh1CCTHD3MDndAgvZGOGvA=/fit-in/600x595/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-2795571-1301389026.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K413r4kR9zU

The B side to his Patrick Cowley produced single Right On Target, this Seeds cover continues Patrick Cowley's fusions of the recent rock'n'roll past with none more gay Hi NRG. Makes perfect sense, the grinding repetition of The Seeds translates incredibly well to electronic rhythms. Sadly we never got a Sky Saxon version of (You Make Me Feel) Mighty Real.
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on January 24, 2021, 04:34:03 PM
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on January 24, 2021, 04:41:49 PM
Quadrant Six-Body Mechanic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZMQKYtnCQo

Known for his work with producer Arthur Baker, this track, more electro-sleaze ,was the work of keyboard player John Robie.
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on January 24, 2021, 05:00:03 PM
Fantastic Freaks, Cold Crush Brothers, DJ Grand Wizard Theodore (Live at Club Dixie in South Bronx)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzBI2z0J9bs

A joyous bit of live hip-hop from the movie Wild Style is my last pick.
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Post by: McChesney Duntz on January 24, 2021, 05:03:42 PM
The Fabulous Billygoons ‎– Billygoon Party Rap (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0DqIkww-tg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uJFl9XU.jpg)

Featured on the 12" mini album "Rhapsody In Flatulence" - released in 1982

From what I've been able to find out, these were a Comedy band who emerged out of the Boston Punk scene around 1980.

Wow. That takes me back to my just-pre-adolescence in the Boston area. Not necessarily in a pleasant way - there were a lot of acts in the comedy and music scenes in that era that combined a punkish audacity with a certain Massachusetts dunderheadedness that usually grated on me. Then again, both Steven Wright and Bobcat Goldthwait emerged from that busted-up chrysalis around that time too...
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Post by: daf on January 24, 2021, 05:04:48 PM
Wayne Roberts ‎– Aussie Talk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vNb7hNOpIo)

(https://i.imgur.com/bxHpH0d.jpg)

Released in October 1982 - did not chart

Info Squib!!
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Wayne Roberts is arguably one of the legends of breakfast radio in Brisbane and Australia.

(https://i.imgur.com/RmWiP4Y.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/m2bI64d.jpg)

As Waynee 'Poo' Roberts he was well known for his famous gotcha calls, zany presentation and unpredictable style. He released an album and several singles in the early 80's.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 24, 2021, 05:11:42 PM
Quadrant Six-Body Mechanic

This is ace, thanks for posting this! Right up my street.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 24, 2021, 05:23:16 PM
Silver Shamrock Commercial Theme. - Conal Cochran. Released on Siver Shamrock Novelties in 1982.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/9159/hxiv9T.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/5820/epIWcq.jpg)

Don't forget to tune in at Halloween.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIHUv2ooG38
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on January 24, 2021, 05:30:46 PM
Count Floyd ‎– Count Floyd Is Back (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKpj8gvTMLA)

(https://i.imgur.com/gcfmmag.jpg)

Released on a 4-track EP 12" Mini-Album in 1982

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Count Floyd originated on the Canadian sketch show SCTV, and later appeared on The Completely Mental Misadventures of Ed Grimley. Played by comic actor Joe Flaherty, he was was the alter-ego of another SCTV character: Floyd Robertson, co-anchor of the SCTV News [The name was a joke based on that of Canadian news anchor Lloyd Robertson]

The premise was that employees at this very low-budget TV station had to double up on jobs, so news anchor Floyd Robertson was also the host of SCTV’s Monster Chiller Horror Theater, wearing a cheap Transylvanian vampire costume and speaking in a stereotypical Bela Lugosi type accent. Oddly, although Floyd was supposed to be a vampire, he would also open each show howling like a werewolf, presumably indicating that Floyd Robertson had only the vaguest of idea what a vampire was. Near the end of a howl, he would break off disarmingly into a weak chuckle.

(https://i.imgur.com/ziV2Xxx.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/oevEeau.jpg)

Occasionally, Count Floyd would be joined by a vampire-caped sidekick known as The Pittsburgh Midget, played by Flaherty's brother Paul Flaherty. The main running gag of the sketch was that the station would usually provide truly awful films for the show that were not in the least bit scary, including such genres as biopics with very scant relation to horror,  softcore pornography with a horror theme, and Swedish arty films, forcing Floyd to struggle to hype them to his mostly juvenile audience. ("Alright, it wasn't that scary but did you get a good look at those chicks?”).
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 24, 2021, 05:40:53 PM
The Danse Society - Hide

(https://img.discogs.com/o_TTvccTW2NU9mpCIbjMSNjdCOE=/fit-in/500x500/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-356018-1267096180.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLeZOY80ibs

The b-side of the single Somewhere. From under the YouTube video:

Quote
The Danse Society - Hide (Dec 1982) released on Society records - The last independent single before being signed to a major label. Reached No2 in the Independent charts. Produced by Richard O'Brien of Rock Horror and Crystal Maze fame.

I didn't know any of that.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 24, 2021, 05:47:14 PM
The Cure - A Short Term Effect

(https://www.udiscovermusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Tthe-Cure-Pornography-album-cover-web-optimised-820.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n57TT0EJBm0

From their 1982 album Pornography. The Cure did turn out some really weird shit when they put their minds to it. It's a shame their music lost that quality in their later years.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on January 24, 2021, 06:03:35 PM
XTC - All of a Sudden (It's Too Late) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCvGUu3DBJQ)

(https://i.imgur.com/pg490cl.jpg)

Closng track on disc 1 of the double-album 'English Settlement' - released in February 1982

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English Settlement was the fifth studio album and first double album by XTC. The textured album cover is based upon the Uffington White Horse chalk carving in southwest Oxfordshire, which is about 8 miles east of Swindon, Wiltshire, XTC's home town. The band chose the image since it was a strong, historic symbol of England.

Andy Partridge : "it's our most English record. It's kind of an ambiguous title. ... The horse isliterally a kind of Iron Age advertisement for an English settlement that was on top of the hill when the first settlers came to England. And it's us living here, settling here, and also the settling of viewpoints, when two people have a disagreement or a different view and they get something settled."

(https://i.imgur.com/Jqgslak.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/onBZPEo.jpg)

Andy Partridge : "I actually don't remember much about the writing of it, other than I found this chord change - I'm playing sort of a D chord, and adding in a G-flat, which is fine as a root, but then also adding in a D-flat as a root, which makes it sound sort of hopeless. As in a no-hope kind of mood, rather than not very well thought-out! The song fell out quite quickly from that. I think it could have been better-structured. Like, there's no reason for all that kind of jungle-drums rhythm stuff before the song starts. If I was producing a band now, and they came up with that song, I'd say, "Look, after you've done your guitar intro, straight in with the song! Why do you need to have so many bars of just paddling around this rhythm?"

The album marked a turn towards the more pastoral pop songs that would dominate later XTC releases, with an emphasis on acoustic guitar, 12-string electric guitar and fretless bass.

Andy Partridge : ""All of a Sudden" wasn't played live, it was really brought up, and just "became" in the studio, if you see what I mean. I think I'd decided that I didn't want to tour. And that took off some sort of mental padlock. It was like, "No, you haven't got to reproduce any of this stuff, don't worry if it's acoustic instruments, or keyboards, or whatever."

(https://i.imgur.com/QxkrrAC.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/dNNGjMQ.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/Dnx1Pk8.jpg)

Andy Partridge : "Dave's playing 12-string, rather precisely, which is very good. I love Dave's little intermediate bits between the vocal lines. He's very good at that kind of answering with the guitar. That was his new instrument, so it had to be on everything, you know? You get like that. In fact, on that album, we all bought new instruments. I think Terry got a big, deep military snare. Looks like a tom-tom, you know, but it's a snare. That was his new toy for a while. I got a new acoustic guitar, Dave got a 12-string, and Colin got the fretless bass. We treated ourselves to the Prophet-5 synthesizer, which was a polyphonic five-note synth. So yeah, we had a new arsenal, so it was a case of, "Our new toys have got to go on these tracks!"
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 24, 2021, 06:07:02 PM
Bauhaus - In the Night

(https://img.discogs.com/BWrZRoUSF6QqGaP0r9HzTjPByW4=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-390514-1371663691-4294.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4NDEKmdSvE

From The Sky's Gone Out, which is another very strange album. It opens with a cover of Third Uncle by Eno and then wanders off all over the place.

We did a cover of this track in my first (covers) band. It went really well with the other songs we covered, like Bugged by Head of David and Bone Machine by the Pixies.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 24, 2021, 06:09:40 PM
XTC - All of a Sudden (It's Too Late) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCvGUu3DBJQ)

(https://i.imgur.com/pg490cl.jpg)

Closng track on disc 1 of the double-album 'English Settlement' - released in February 1982

Also...

XTC - Melt The Guns

(https://img.discogs.com/TuGtbtI-CqfTjZ_tLi4QSqaLvUU=/fit-in/600x598/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-12593905-1538444770-3939.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPWEiqHVFGI

I like the message but that's not the reason. It really is an unusual composition.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 24, 2021, 06:17:39 PM
Neil Young - Transformer Man
(https://img.discogs.com/oJQ-EhH98Gtw2oz3k0VcAea0Deo=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-399554-1582456659-5443.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqdx6dCQLug

On this, from Graham Linehan's favourite Neil Young album, he somehow uses a Vocoder in a way that turns his voice into the sound of a weeping pedal steel.

Trans is an incredibly moving record in his attempt to relate to and communicate with his son with cerebral palsy and deserves to be more than a punchline about how he went off the rails and pissed off Geffen in the 80s.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jamiefairlie on January 24, 2021, 06:27:42 PM
The Danse Society - Hide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLeZOY80ibs

The b-side of the single Somewhere. From under the YouTube video:

I didn't know any of that.

I was keeping the a-side for 83 as I thought that's when it came out but may as well throw it in here...

The Danse Society - Somewhere

https://youtu.be/VEsy_pgDc_4 (https://youtu.be/VEsy_pgDc_4)

This is their fourth single and it reached  number 42 in the Festive Fifty.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 24, 2021, 06:28:24 PM
Captain Beefheart & the Magic Band - The Thousandth and Tenth Day of the Human Totem Pole

(https://img.discogs.com/cmLk5XFCjrS-FmKVPh7UGHg-MnM=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-417185-1468228125-6035.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQUke-HSjQ4

Years ago, Robert Smith from the Cure cited Beefheart as an influence but for years I just couldn't see the connection. However, I have since come to realise that tracks like the one I posted above do have this music in their DNA.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 24, 2021, 06:39:43 PM
Christian Death - Romeo's Distress
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91IPHGdJMeL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCqaXfFJD9c

Another that due to its relentless drive and infectiousness would be a huge hit in a just word, albeit hampered from doing so in the same way with the same rhetoric used in the opening lyrics as in The Classical by The Fall as earlier listed. Rozz Williams vocal presence is lecherous, solicitous and dangerous: Christian Death would become a shadow of their former selves when Rozz left.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 24, 2021, 06:42:34 PM
The Birthday Party - Big Jesus Trash Can

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/quietus_production/images/articles/8590/birthday_1335122131.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpL6Tnn8-Jw

Nick Cave now moans about cancel culture from his comfortable old man nest in Hove.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 24, 2021, 06:44:37 PM
Anything off Junkyard fits the bill here, what an utterly wonderful album.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 24, 2021, 06:48:38 PM
Dax ... will be represented by me again in future in this thread.

Not if I get there first, bucko! ;-p
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 24, 2021, 06:56:19 PM
Hilly Fields (1892) - Nick Nicely  Released on EMI in 1982.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/7892/XnjVnw.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/9863/2yVA4I.jpg)

Talking of XTC, Nick pipped Dukes Of Stratosphear to the post in making 1980s neo-psychedelia Beatley homage, much to Andy Partridge's chagrin.

Nick Nicely AKA Nickolas Laurien is a British musician, born 1959, making psychedelic rock and experimental electronic music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv5XnTz4KeM&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: daf on January 24, 2021, 07:01:40 PM
Aaah, Mate!

How could I have forgotten that one - That is the business!
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 24, 2021, 07:08:48 PM
D'Oh! Yes. Was that the only record he released in 1982?

Think I like 49 Cigars more.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 24, 2021, 07:12:35 PM
D'Oh! Yes. Was that the only record he released in 1982?


According to Discogs, yes.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 24, 2021, 07:14:12 PM
According to Discogs, yes.

Thought so. He seems to have done that one single and disappeared for years before returning years later to put out a load of really excellent stuff.

Weird.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 24, 2021, 07:17:58 PM
Captain Beefheart & the Magic Band - The Thousandth and Tenth Day of the Human Totem Pole


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQUke-HSjQ4

Years ago, Robert Smith from the Cure cited Beefheart as an influence but for years I just couldn't see the connection. However, I have since come to realise that tracks like the one I posted above do have this music in their DNA.

Hmmm, interesting point. The problem for me with Beefheart and his ilk (I'd put Birthday party in there too) is that i just don't like blues as a musical form and anything built on that, no matter how wild, i just find offputting.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on January 24, 2021, 07:27:26 PM
Bardo - Talking Out Of Line (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh42W65FOEU)

(https://i.imgur.com/oTbILkv.jpg)

Released in June 1982 - did not chart

Quote
Sally Ann Triplett first represented the United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest 1980 as the lead female vocals of the six-piece band Prima Donna. Other band members included Danny Finn from The New Seekers and Lance Aston, brother of Bucks Fizz singer Jay Aston. Prima Donna finished a moderately successful third with their pop-ballad "Love Enough for Two"; however the song was a flop in the charts, and the group disbanded after their second single. In between her two Eurovision appearances, she was a regular in the BBC television programme Crackerjack! [CRACKERJACK!!]

(https://i.imgur.com/V0bpTO3.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/77CZHbm.jpg) 

Two years later, she again represented United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest 1982, this time with Stephen Fischer as part of the duo Bardo. Their song, "One Step Further", was a frantic pop number with a complex dance routine. The vigorous choreography noticeably affected the vocals, and not helped by no backing track and a live orchestra, the song finished seventh. The song, however, proved to be a success in the UK Singles Chart when it reached No. 2.

Signed to Epic Records, plans were in place to continue Bardo's career, but subsequent singles, "Talking Out of Line", and "Hang On to Your Heart" flopped. An album was planned but shelved due to the low sales of the singles.

(https://i.imgur.com/kl5eEjY.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/yYQfjoC.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/xqwOksK.jpg)

Triplett and Fischer had by this time become romantically linked and continued to stay together after the dissolution of Bardo [ahh, bless!]. Triplett has since become a successful theatre actress and performer, most notably in the musicals Anything Goes and Guys and Dolls. Fischer also continues to perform in the music business, mainly on stage and has performed as a pianist and vocalist with the Penguin Cafe Orchestra.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 24, 2021, 08:07:22 PM
Hmmm, interesting point. The problem for me with Beefheart and his ilk (I'd put Birthday party in there too) is that i just don't like blues as a musical form and anything built on that, no matter how wild, i just find offputting.

It's all built on the blues, daddy-o! :-)

Admittedly, in the case of the Cure/Beefheart comparison, it's mostly the lyrical content I'm thinking of. I would like to hear something like Golden Birdies sung to the tune of A Short Term Effect, ISIHAC style, to see how convincing/amusing that would be.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Better Midlands on January 24, 2021, 08:11:29 PM
Q - The Voice Of Q (https://youtu.be/oYdTQ94dv4g)

(https://img.discogs.com/4xqhAIUFcGkrJ4SPJzgvreyrqU8=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-584235-1365690444-4756.jpeg.jpg)

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Although the eerie splendour of ‘The Voice Of Q’ was huge on a specialist level, it failed to make any impression on its UK release, and was destined to remain a cult cut. Inspired by that year’s movie blockbuster ‘E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial’, and co-written and produced by Michael Forte and Bruce Weeden at Philadelphia’s Alpha International recording studio, Q was an organic one-off project – something recorded for fun, rather than with any intent of commercial success. Michael Forte, in a recent interview about the re-issue for Off The Record, would recall; ‘In all honesty, we saw it as a novelty record…My world was not nightclubs or DJs and I was never involved in promotion and marketing so I couldn’t tell you who was playing it’.

It doesn’t seem that many US DJs latched onto the track, its failure to appear on the Billboard Dance chart emphasising this lack of interest in its home country – its main support very much on the UK underground. It’s since been mistakenly described as Italo Disco, but on its original release ‘The Voice Of Q’ was very much regarded as Electro-Funk, with Legend providing the perfect environment for this and other esoteric electronic dance releases.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 24, 2021, 08:15:19 PM
The Alibi - The Fun Boy Three. Released on Chrysalis in 1982.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/3019/Q2N868.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/2522/XG1lMG.jpg)

One of my favourire FB£ tracks and B sides ever!

Fun Boy Three were well-known faces in the 2-Tone Movement as they all were prominent members of The Specials. When "Ghost Town" reached UK#1 on July 11, 1981, The Specials had split - FB3 singers Terry Hall, Neville Staples and Lynval Golding had left as the with their first single already recorded with Dave Jordan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zBhQsNly4M
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Post by: daf on January 24, 2021, 10:00:00 PM
Star Turn ‎– Ding Dong Ding Dong (A Song For Europe) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k0d48r2y_s)

(https://i.imgur.com/HrYRBit.jpg)

Flip-side of the single Starturn For Europe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DpZxqJg4qk) released in March 1982 - did not chart

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Star Turn were formed by Steve O'Donnell, Colin Horton Jennings and J. Vincent Edwards. They have recorded a number of singles since 1981, two of which appeared in the UK Singles Chart, and released two albums.

In the fictional Whitley Bay social club, Hampton Cummings (played by Jennings) performs as "Star Turn", a club singer, introduced by Geordie concert chairman Albert Charlton (played by Edwards) who frequently interrupts with announcements and who sometimes joins in the performance, by playing the spoons or providing a spoken word accompaniment. Star Turn's debut single, "STAR TURN ON 45 pints", a parody of the Stars on 45 medley singles, was released in September 1981.

(https://i.imgur.com/nazRoUn.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/LGOM9fL.jpg)

J. Vincent Edwards, who had previously appeared in the London performance of Hair, had a brief career as a solo singer in the late 1960s and early 1970s, and then moved into songwriting and production, including co-writing "Right Back Where We Started From" for Maxine Nightingale. Edwards' experiences of performing at affiliated working men's clubs in North East England, early in his career, was part of the inspiration for Star Turn. Colin Horton Jennings had sung and performed with the groups The Greatest Show on Earth and Taggett, and composed songs for The Hollies, Cilla Black and the Salsoul Orchestra.

(https://i.imgur.com/62CYq6k.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/wW9hQzs.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/YvotIDZ.jpg)

Their biggest commercial success occurred in 1988 when "Pump Up the Bitter" climbed to No. 12 in the UK Singles Chart. It parodied sample-laden tracks of the era, such as Bomb The Bass's "Beat Dis" and M/A/R/R/S's "Pump Up the Volume", which had been a No. 1 hit single in the UK the previous year. Further singles featured medleys on the theme of Christmas (Acid House) parties, Britpop, and The Royal Wedding.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 24, 2021, 10:17:50 PM
Vanity 6 - Make Up
(https://img.discogs.com/8dQnRClwmbZvhInk-4K4PjNxfNg=/fit-in/600x603/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-10106275-1491716555-4818.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HQrVGU7Ybg

This, the B side to Prince proteges Vanity 6 (i.e. he wrote this, played everything and had to be restrained from just singing it himself as well) single He's So Dull is a wonderful 2 and a half minutes of minimal electro sleaze. Prince's own demo version of this is remarkable but the blank voiced delivery here is pretty much perfect. Borders on being Warm Leatherette.
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Post by: sirhenry on January 24, 2021, 10:33:04 PM
In view of the Frank Zappa hatethread further down the subforum, we couldn't leave this one out; a track so offensive that it caused Zappa and Warner Bros. to part company. A track that should have been on two earlier albums but was removed[1]. A track I really like because it has history. I bring you 

Punky's Whips https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWNCSNFoUSY

The first time I heard this was at one of the Hammersmith Odeon gigs that were recorded for Sheik Yerbouti. I had never seen musicianship at that level before and it just blew me away! And being a fan of bizarre, trashy bands, I suspect I was one of the few in the audience who knew of Angel and Punky Meadows.

The day after the gig, my Russian teacher asked why I was so tired and when I explained that I’d been to a brilliant Zappa gig she almost gave me a detention - for not letting her know and inviting her along. So when they added some dates at the end of the tour we went and saw him again. She was not amused that the entire gig (except the encores) consisted of 60’s Surf hit covers. And on the way back I had my first near-death experience.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/E40LKoYd6jE/hqdefault.jpg)

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During the tour Zappa's drummer Terry Bozzio was fascinated by a photograph of Punky Meadows. This became a running gag in the group and Zappa composed this song about the topic. As Bozzio married Dale Consalvi in 1979, we can probably rule out any real attraction for Punky Meadows.

Regardless of Mr. Bozzio's sexuality, it is doubtful if Punky Meadows saw the joke; Warner Brothers certainly didn’t, fearing a lawsuit it was edited it out of the Live in New York album at the last minute, without Zappa’s knowledge. Best not to mention the outright profanity. Among best known results of the unauthorised action were end of 9 years of FZ-WB collaboration and Lather 4LP controversy.
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There’s an anecdote about Punky Meadows in a 1981 book called "Rock Bottom: the Book of Pop Atrocities”: Punky is quoted as saying, "I wish I had a cunt transplant on my guitar, so I can fuck it while I'm playing."
 1. and when you take an eleven minute track off an album and don't replace it with anything it's really bleeding obvious!
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 24, 2021, 11:18:25 PM
Alright, welcome to 1983!

this mortal coil - song to the siren

https://youtu.be/HFWKJ2FUiAQ (https://youtu.be/HFWKJ2FUiAQ)

(https://img.discogs.com/6tUG9khB2JsO9d3EDXafWBl5P8I=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-603324-1137326726.jpeg.jpg)

This Mortal Coil were a collective led by Ivo Watts-Russell, founder of the British record label 4AD. Although Watts-Russell and John Fryer were technically the only two official members, the band's recorded output featured a large rotating cast of supporting artists, many of whom were signed to, or otherwise associated with, 4AD. About half of the songs released were cover versions, often of 1960s and 1970s psychedelic and folk acts.

"Song to the Siren" is a song written by Tim Buckley and his writing partner Larry Beckett and was released by Buckley on his 1970 album Starsailor. This cover is performed by Elizabeth Fraser and Robin Guthrie of the Cocteau Twins.

It reached number 4 in 1983's Festive Fifty and number 10 in the 2000 all-time Fifty.
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Post by: jobotic on January 25, 2021, 12:05:57 AM
Jimmy Spicer - Money (Dollar Bill Y'all)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMwDdEGrt8E

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jtC4Yv1g7kY/Vqg6Uh0SGjI/AAAAAAAAExQ/zidmlbib99Y/s320/jimmy%2Bspicer.jpeg)

http://hiphop101a.blogspot.com/2016/01/godfather-of-storytelling-adventures-of.html

First heard this sampled by De La Soul on Bitties In The BK Lounge. What a tune.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 25, 2021, 12:09:04 AM
New Order - Leave Me Alone

https://youtu.be/2zpYieracgw (https://youtu.be/2zpYieracgw)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4f/New_Order_-_Power%2C_Corruption_%26_Lies.png)

The first song from Power, Corruption & lies to be written, making its live debut in Bristol in February 1982. Probably my favourite from the album, it has the same crystalline chiming guitar sound as Ceremony and it's easy to imagine Ian Curtis singing it.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 25, 2021, 08:28:39 AM
Big Black - Cables

(https://images.genius.com/23232f8b28468acd8180b56e67d1cd2d.1000x1000x1.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4VQPo_gQF4

From, their second ep Bulldozer. Unusually, it features drums played by Pat Byrne from Urge Overkill rather than drum machine. While I prefer the live drums to the drum machine on Bulldozer, I think the production on later releases suits the precision of the drum machine far more and sets Big Black apart from other post hardcore acts.
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Post by: jobotic on January 25, 2021, 08:43:34 AM
That and Albini's guitar sounds! Cables!
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 25, 2021, 09:08:36 AM
Pulp - Blue Girls

(https://pulpsongs.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/pulp-it-promo-83-4.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbEqwgD8MWk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbEqwgD8MWk)

In which the 19-year-old Jarvis Branson Cocker pays tribute to one of his idols, Scott Walker. This is from Pulp's debut album, It. Eighteen years later, Walker produced their, to date, final album.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 25, 2021, 10:47:12 AM
Soft Cell - Soul Inside
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-ERzuIWh7M

My favourite Soft Cell single, released September 1983 trailing This Last Night In Sodom which would come out a month after they announced they were splitting. This song has a great personal resonance for me, as do Soft Cell in general.

Growing up and knowing that whatever I was I wasn't straight, also being a bit of a lonely kid with access to an internet connection I had access to queer role models that weren't in my immediate surroundings of either outright homophobia or "it's alright if you're gay as long as you don't act like it"; being a NIN fan as a result of the homoerotic imagery led me through NIN's cover of Memorabilia to Soft Cell, and through to Coil and then entire seas of possibility were open to me. Of course just as unhealthy as internalised homophobia is conjuring up these queer fantasias and places that never existed but if I listen to this again it brings back all my first same sex experiences and disappointments.

Marc Almond still isn't taken as seriously as he should be as a songwriter, whether its because he's such an old queen or whether its because he first got big with a cover version I dunno. The fact he seems to have spent the last few decades pissing away his rare gift can't help either. I dunno - I'm just trying to hold on to the Soul Inside.
 
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 25, 2021, 10:59:34 AM
Mr Flagio - Take a Chance
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDV_dBYp4h0

Take a Chance by Mr Flagio is one of the great Italo records. Of course I'll say that about a lot of Italo in this thread as it is without a doubt my favourite style of music, but it's got everything I need: repetitive drum machine rhythms with live sounding percussion accents; squelchy Vocoder voices with passionate untreated vocals; scratchy rhythm guitar and cascading blocks of string synth. The live and the programmed, the acoustic and the electronic. All meshed together into a song that makes me dance like a loon.

(https://thump-images.vice.com/images/2017/02/03/the-eternal-ballistic-brilliance-of-mr-flagios-take-a-chance-body-image-1486120239.jpg?resize=800:*)

Mr Flagio were Flavio Vidulich and Giorgio Bacco. As with many Italo producers there's only really the two tracks by them, this and a single they did the year after: but when you've made Take A Chance why risk ruining it by following it up with something lesser which would be pretty much anything.

Personal connection to this record: I put this as the first track on a mix for someone I was interested in. I would like to think there are other factors to the fact that I was (briefly) successful, but really it's probably all down to this record.
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Post by: Gregory Torso on January 25, 2021, 11:16:05 AM
Butthole Surfers - The Shah Sleeps In Lee Harvey's Grave (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-jPZAjD2UM)

(https://i.imgur.com/aHW0m6v.jpg)

This is where it all starts for me. Not actually in this year of 1983, when I was but a rusk-softening, mewling tadpole child, but later, early 90s, when an older boy in another village circulated a tape with Brown Reason To Live on one side and Rembrandt Pussy Horse on the other. Obviously the Butthole Surfers weren't the first to take punk and make it seriously weird, but I didn't hear Flipper or the Electric Eels or whatever for years. I'd already started getting interested in music that was different to whatever Bruno Brookes was bleating on about on the charts, and this was the doorway. And what a world it opened up into.

The screaming feedback, chaotic bursts of drums and noise, Gibby screaming: "THERE'S A TIME TO SHIT, AND A TIME FOR GOD. THE LAST SHIT I TOOK WAS PRETTY FUCKING ODD", finally breaking down and sobbing "shut up... shut up..."  --- it blew my tiny teenage mind. This was unapologetic NOISE. Noise like my parents always said the music I liked was (or anything that wasn't Enya or Paul Young), actual noise. And I loved it. And I still do.

At the end of secondary school, me and my best friend (who had originally procured the tape) managed to convince the school to let our band play for 10 minutes in support of some REM covers band who were playing in the school hall during lunch time. We covered "Bar-B-Q Pope" from this record, as well as Mudhoney's "You Got It" and another song I can't remember, with our friend ending our "set" with the monologue from "Suicide" (I've got a stiff upper lip because I'm half dead, the walls of my life are crumbling around me, I'm running and I can't hide, and I might try fucking suicide). We all got expelled because if this, but we weren't staying on for sixth form anyway, so the joke's on you Mr. Marshall (who wore a Clash t-shirt but turned out to be completely un-punk as he couldn't handle a few swear words from a bunch of greasy teenagers making ART)

The 1983-87 run the Buttholes had from Brown To Reason To Live up to Locust Abortion Technician is exemplary. Unfortunately, they seemed to go to shit quite quickly after that once MTV and drum programming and Hollywood got hold of them, although there are still sparks in the later material. They released one of the best Christmas singles, too.

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Post by: jobotic on January 25, 2021, 11:22:38 AM
Brilliant post! Love the band story.

Agree too, it was the Butthole Surfers that made all the difference to me to. Psychic, Powerless, Another Man's Sac was the first one I ever heard, so it's still maybe my number one. I remember playing a tape of Lady Sniff to my classmates for vicarious laughs, although its by no means the best song on there (Cherub). The way Concubine seems to start like it has a faulty starter motor..just brilliant.

Agree with you about their output, although Hairway to Steven had its moments. What's the Christmas single?
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Post by: Gregory Torso on January 25, 2021, 11:27:07 AM
What's the Christmas single?

Good King Wenceslaus. Gibby is off his face absolutely piss drunk slurring his way through it, it's hilarious.
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Post by: jobotic on January 25, 2021, 11:30:28 AM
Will look that up, cheers!

Ever see them? I wish I had.
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Post by: Gregory Torso on January 25, 2021, 11:36:17 AM
Never got a chance to see them - I think by the time I was old enough to go to gigs, they were long past their best. If you haven't seen it, check out the film "Blind Eye Sees All" which has a couple of their lives shows from their peak spliced together with a crazy rambling acid-fried interview with the band,

Also, the Butthole Surfers chapter in Michael Azerrad's "Our Band Could Be Your Life" is amazing.
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Post by: jobotic on January 25, 2021, 11:40:00 AM
Same here, although weren't their more recent reformed gigs meant to be surprisingly good?

Cheers, will read that (I think I bought my Minutemen obsessed brother a copy. I expect they'll pop up in this thread soon).
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 25, 2021, 11:43:38 AM
Mr Flagio - Take a Chance

Banger!
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 25, 2021, 12:26:57 PM
Charlie - Spacer Woman
(https://img.discogs.com/JMEAfBcfplvjAGBS4UsRJM8yAew=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-26115-1436102918-3938.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nttQTxfXtVE&t=18s

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Formed in 1983 as an experiment to break the mold of the classic disco dance sound, Charlie was the vehicle for musician and producer Maurizio Cavalieri who had found fame with Italian disco group Firefly. Cavalieri had been listening to the new crop of UK Synthpop and New Wave like Depeche Mode and Heaven 17 and wanted to create a more electronic, futuristic sound. He recruited his friend Giorgio Stefani to help write the song and compose lyrics. “Spacer Woman” was recorded in Vicenza, Italy and released by Cavalieri’s own Mr. Disc Organization in 1983. The track features the signature Italo Linn Drum machine as well as the Roland TR-808 and a Yamaha DX7 for the arpeggiated synthesizer melody. "Spacer Woman" spans over seven-minutes and features the spaced-out vocals of Stefani’s wife, who sings through a vocoder.

This is another real game changer when it comes to Italo: in a way it flashes forward to house and techno records like Where's Your Child by Bam Bam or Your Best Friend by Adonis in that there's something in the vocals that's just off and to me is more eerie and uncomfortable to listen to as any of the most depraved power electronics records, while at the same time the song makes me want to dance stupidly.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 25, 2021, 01:13:20 PM
A Big 10-8 Place (Part One) - Negativland  Released on Seeland in 1983.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/Dj4pSB.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/6123/1MO3Bd.jpg)

I'm stretching the term 'pop' here for suggesting this 'cut-up' masterpiece for our chart, but it made such an impression on me when I heard it for the first time. As a young man, Negativland really expanded my listening tastes.  However, not great first date music as I learned to my cost.

The experimental-music and art collective known as Negativland (Richard Lyons, Mark Hosler, Peter Conheim) has been recording music/audio/collage works since 1980, producing a weekly 3 hour radio show ("Over The Edge") since 1981 until, hosting a World Wide Web site since 1995, and performing live on occasional tours throughout America and Europe. Negativland's particular musical practice incorporates found sounds and musical samples into their collage compositions.Their contemporary interest in collage (a hallmark of 20th Century art of all kinds) is prompted by the fact that art and commerce have now merged to a degree where corporate commerce now finances, grooms, directs, filters, manufactures and distributes almost everything we know of as "culture."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OwGDaCBvJA&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: Bobby Treetops on January 25, 2021, 02:12:51 PM
Vanity 6 - Make Up
(https://img.discogs.com/8dQnRClwmbZvhInk-4K4PjNxfNg=/fit-in/600x603/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-10106275-1491716555-4818.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HQrVGU7Ybg

This, the B side to Prince proteges Vanity 6 (i.e. he wrote this, played everything and had to be restrained from just singing it himself as well) single He's So Dull is a wonderful 2 and a half minutes of minimal electro sleaze. Prince's own demo version of this is remarkable but the blank voiced delivery here is pretty much perfect. Borders on being Warm Leatherette.

I was just about to post this but you got there first, great minds.
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Post by: Bobby Treetops on January 25, 2021, 02:23:41 PM
B Beat Girls ‎– For The Same Man

(https://e.snmc.io/i/300/w/b5f50490b66df7cdd7dbee9ccc19fe33/1907183)

Couldn't find a huge amount of information about this, apart from it was sampled on Samantha Fox's "I Wanna Have Some Fun" and was unsurprising popular in early 80s New York clubs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W19TWXj6u2Y

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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 25, 2021, 05:28:43 PM
Fiery Jack - Toy Dolls Released on Volume in 1983
 
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/Qy5Ajt.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/ppPslb.jpg)

The perfect band if you were a teenage herbert in the early eighties. The number is an anti-paean to the old discontinued back ointment.  Not quite as poetic as Mark.E.Smith's 'Fiery Jack', it has to be said.

Toy Dolls are a punk band from Sunderland, UK, formed in October 1979.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/yNLBRV.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwO7xsUWAh8
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 25, 2021, 05:59:04 PM
African Head Charge - Timbuktu Express

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYMrrlQLs4k

(https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a1887682509_10.jpg)

From their album Drastic Season, which is probably the strangest dub record I've heard, although I should stress that I'm no aficionado. Some of the tracks are more like what I'd expect but even those seem to break all the rules.

And lookee here: https://africanheadcharge.bandcamp.com/album/drastic-season

I've had it on vinyl for years but I might treat myself to a digital copy.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 25, 2021, 06:46:49 PM
Soft Cell - Soul Inside

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-ERzuIWh7M



Marc Almond still isn't taken as seriously as he should be as a songwriter, whether its because he's such an old queen or whether its because he first got big with a cover version I dunno. The fact he seems to have spent the last few decades pissing away his rare gift can't help either. I dunno - I'm just trying to hold on to the Soul Inside.

Agreed. "Torch" is another example.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 25, 2021, 07:47:03 PM
Agreed. "Torch" is another example.
Marc and the Mambas - Catch A Fallen Star
(https://img.discogs.com/EdXTgLlpmv8Mymtt_I6yAtTGNDE=/fit-in/600x592/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1131366-1598156091-5058.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcfrSeW0b-g

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And this town is a potpourri of disease
Can you smell the herpes from the scum-sucking fucks
That hang around the same suckers each mid-night
You were being your photo
And spouting your promo
Flicking back your limp quiff
That's as limp as your dick
Irritating your greedy cross-eyed sight

As is this, from Marc and the Mambas Torment and Toreros. Marc was on fire in '83 clearly and this album has a dream cast: Matt Johnson, Annie Hogan, Gini Ball and Flood all being names spotted elsewhere in my record collection. A particularly scabrous lyric delivered in a way suggesting Scott singing Weill.

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Post by: Phil_A on January 25, 2021, 08:53:09 PM
Jane & Barton - There Is A Man (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHukj6hkV5c)

(https://homepages.force9.net/king1/Barton/Media/Articles/images/1994-08-12-SouthManchesterReporter-Article-picture.jpg)

(https://homepages.force9.net/king1/Barton/Images/Discog/Barton/JaneAndBarton-JaneAndBarton-UK-LP-Label-A.jpg)

Manchester poet Edward Barton has had an eclectic career to say the least, which has included among other things included designing the "Flower" logo for James and co-authoring the Kylie hit "Confide In Me"(well, he gets royalties for it at least). In 1983, he and singer Jane Lancaster teamed up to produce a one-off recording of Edward's poem It's A Fine Day(the first he'd ever written), which caught the attention of John Peel, and subsequently Cherry Red Records became interested in the potential of further recordings, resulting in the mini-album "Jane and Barton".

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Post by: daf on January 25, 2021, 09:07:52 PM
Marc and the Mambas - Catch A Fallen Star
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Can you smell the herpes from the scum-sucking fucks

I bet you can, Almond, you dirty old bollocks, I bet you can!
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 25, 2021, 10:57:32 PM
10,000 Maniacs - Grey Victory

https://youtu.be/OVRfztODBPk (https://youtu.be/OVRfztODBPk)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/68/10000maniacs_secrets.jpeg/220px-10000maniacs_secrets.jpeg)

Formed in 1981 in Jamestown, New York. This is taken from their debut album, Secrets of the I Ching. They went on to release a further four before splitting in 1993.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 26, 2021, 08:34:43 AM
The Long Ryders - And She Rides

(https://img.discogs.com/_0FwmdECXs7FjdF85nWzS52Md9s=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-935826-1380850624-1913.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBNVkJ5oSSI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBNVkJ5oSSI)

It's 1983, and the psychedelic spirit of The Byrds is alive and well.

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The Long Ryders are an American alternative country and Paisley Underground band, principally active between 1982 and 1987. With a sound reminiscent of The Byrds, Rubber Soul-era Beatles, electric Bob Dylan, Buffalo Springfield and the Flying Burrito Brothers, but with a harder edge, they anticipated the alternative country music of the 1990s by a decade.

Their early work contained influences of both punk (largely attributable to singer/guitarist and devoted record collector Sid Griffin) and old-school country (championed by singer/guitarist Stephen McCarthy). Former Byrd Gene Clark joined them on their first full-length album, 1984's Native Sons, adding vocals to the song Ivory Tower.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 26, 2021, 10:41:07 AM
Blitz - New Age
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jLzYXXm6J8

Worth more than the novelty of being an Oi! band gone all post-punky with Hook-y bass and slightly lower tempos, this is just a great pop song from Blitz. The writing's on the wall from the Factory-esque front cover that we're not in Never Surrender territory anymore. This track isn't actually on the album and marks a more transitional phase into Second Empire Justice which was produced by Martin Hannett's one time assistant Chris Nagle. Second Empire Justice is well worth a listen for anyone who like The Chameleons, The Sound, etc. This was met with confusion and irritation by Oi! fans and caused a split within the band.
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Post by: Jockice on January 26, 2021, 11:00:15 AM
Blitz - New Age
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jLzYXXm6J8

Worth more than the novelty of being an Oi! band gone all post-punky with Hook-y bass and slightly lower tempos, this is just a great pop song from Blitz. The writing's on the wall from the Factory-esque front cover that we're not in Never Surrender territory anymore. This track isn't actually on the album and marks a more transitional phase into Second Empire Justice which was produced by Martin Hannett's one time assistant Chris Nagle. Second Empire Justice is well worth a listen for anyone who like The Chameleons, The Sound, etc. This was met with confusion and irritation by Oi! fans and caused a split within the band.

I think I've asked on here before what the name of the Oi! band who went all post punk were. I don't think anyone knew but now I have my answer. Cheers.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 26, 2021, 11:29:56 AM
I think I've asked on here before what the name of the Oi! band who went all post punk were. I don't think anyone knew but now I have my answer. Cheers.

Angelic Upstarts went in a more new wave-y direction as well, even having Paul Thompson from Roxy Music drum with them for a bit: they didn't do it as successfully as Blitz artistically but I reckon they made more money.
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Post by: Jockice on January 26, 2021, 11:43:42 AM
Angelic Upstarts went in a more new wave-y direction as well, even having Paul Thompson from Roxy Music drum with them for a bit: they didn't do it as successfully as Blitz artistically but I reckon they made more money.

Yeah, I heard some of their later stuff. It wasn't bad at all.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 26, 2021, 12:44:54 PM
The Birthday Party - Deep In The Woods
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kJ7KzDqudk

In 1983 The Birthday Party would release two final EPs later collected on one disc as the utterly essential Mutiny! / The Bad Seed: the split in the band largely due to Nick Cave and Rowland S Howard's heroin addictions and desires to move in separate directions, and Mick Harvey having the unenviable task of acting as a go-between (no Aussie music pun intended) while also handling the band's affairs and being the only sober member. Nick and Mick would splinter off to form The Bad Seeds while Rowland would go on to make some excellent records solo, with These Immortal Souls and as guitarist in Crime and The City Solution (also featuring Mick Harvey). Sadly not enough but there'll be more on Rowland later in the thread.

I could have chosen anything off these two EPs but this is quite simply my favourite Birthday Party song and one where you can hear both the roots of what Cave would go on to do later and the burning embers of the band he was presently in. Lyrically it is his most elaborate foray into story-telling so far, and dare I say it is most sophisticated lyric to this point, with echoes of "worms make their cruel designs, saying D-I-E into her skin" in "A-N-I-T-A wriggling free on a skull'n'dagger" on Cabin Fever (From Her To Eternity). Both in his vocal delivery and this evolving approach from earlier Birthday Party lyrics that verged on sound poetry into something more conventional, you can really see the change that was about to come. The production too has moved on from the often cluttered sound of earlier releases to the kind of atmosphere they'd really hone on Your Funeral, My Trial. Mick Harvey as arranger and producer really starts here

On the other hand, Tracey Pew's bass is as ominous as ever and Rowland's guitar is as Rowland S Howard-esque as ever. There is a particular point I can't highlight without getting too fanboy-ish and time stamping where he pauses at a point few other guitarists would. If you've heard this as much as I have, you know exactly what I mean. Sometimes I wish The Birthday Party had gone on for longer as at their best nothing touches them. Far from being Nick Cave's backing band as The Bad Seeds would be, here he was just one of five unique talents (taking a second to mention the underrated Phill Calvert whose drumming on everything up to his departure in 83 was crucial in nailing the "Pop Group but less overtly funky" sound they sometimes had).

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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 26, 2021, 01:22:00 PM
Lewis Baloue - Like to See You Again

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf2gThEGytI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf2gThEGytI)

Bryan Ferry meets David Lynch? In Calgary. This haunting synth and piano ballad is so fragile it's barely there at all. Beautiful. Baloue is a bit of a mystery man, but his brief Wikipedia entry contains some fairly amusing biographical details.

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Randall A. Wulff, better known by his stage name Lewis, and also known as Lewis Baloue and Randy Duke, is a Canadian singer and musician. He released a number of albums in the 1980s, but did not become widely known until they were re-released in 2014.

During the recording process of his 1980s albums Lewis worked as a stockbroker and lived with his girlfriend in an apartment with all-white furniture.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 26, 2021, 01:43:20 PM
Cavern - Liquid Liquid. Released on 99 in 1983.

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Quite possibly the ultimate band to namecheck in rock snob circles. Well, it was in the late 1990s, early '00s but Liquid Liquid had to form an orderly queue behind Scott Walker, Nick Drake, Shuggie Otis, Os Mutantes and The Radiophonic Workshop

Liquid Liquid are an early-80s band on the legendary 99 Records label. Often namechecked because of the track "Cavern" from which parts were replayed by Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five for their hit single "White Lines". Liquid Liquid were originally a much more experimental sounding band called Liquid Idiot who released one 7" before reforming as Liquid Liquid and basing their sound around a much more percussive framework. They would invite members of the audience to bring their own percussion to their gigs and at one of these, they were so impressed when Dennis Young brought a marimba that they invited him to join. They developed their own unique sound which they called 'big beat' (a term some English producers would use more than a decade later for something entirely different). Liquid Liquid still exist and worked together with DFA on new material.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGncWGLHdQw
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 26, 2021, 06:21:02 PM
The Chameleons - as high as you can go

https://youtu.be/x5lkgWNxhug (https://youtu.be/x5lkgWNxhug)

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Released as their third single.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 26, 2021, 06:55:41 PM
Criminal Ways - Case. Released on 'Wheat From The Chaff' EP on Sus in 1983.

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Like Blitz, another street punk/Oi/ ska band that weren't going to be restricted by what their fans expected of them. This is mean, moody, and magnificent.

The first incarnation of CASE was originally formed in 1979, in the suburbs of Croydon and Bromley. The band became known, not just for the mass of graffiti bearing their name, that appeared all over London at the time but also as the best live punk/post-punk/ska/rock band of the early 1980’s era. CASE were founded by Matt Newman (vocals), Rob Brook (guitar), Martin Parrot (drums) and Marc Adams (bass) having, apparently, been introduced to each other, at a party, by Slimey Toad (from the Johnny Moped band.)

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CASE graffiti in the background of particular scenes on TV/Movies. The list of (it has to be said) unverified sitings of much of the, now painted-over graffiti, includes films such as Disney’s 101 Dalmatians, The Firm, and Eastenders, alongside numerous BBC documentaries and news items.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMhLsTeohYQ&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 26, 2021, 07:15:23 PM
Criminal Ways - Case.

That's pretty special, clearly I need to investigate Case more.

The Mob - Dance On (You Fool)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjrYuNzmVFg

As far as I'm aware, Let The Tribe Increase was the only album The Mob made, released on All The Madmen Records in 1983. This is a label started by members of the band which continued after the band stopped playing in 83 and folded in 88, only to start up again when they reformed in 2013. Asides from fulfilling the criteria of having needless parenthesis in the title, this is an anarcho-punk stomper with a bassline that will now be stuck in my head for the next few hours.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 26, 2021, 09:29:29 PM
Cocteau Twins - Sugar Hiccup

https://youtu.be/44bJ2xlB2CI (https://youtu.be/44bJ2xlB2CI)

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Featured on their third EP (they tended not to release singles), Sunburst and Snowblind, released in November. It reached number 14 in the 1983 Festive Fifty. By this point they were down to the core duo of Elizabeth Fraser and Robin Guthrie, bass player Will Heggie having left earlier in the year to form Lowlife (more of whom later).
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Post by: Phil_A on January 26, 2021, 10:47:39 PM
La Sellrose Can Can - Aerobicise  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_7CsNgXnss)

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We're getting into an era which saw many quirky and unusual Japanese pop acts emerging that it's frustratingly difficult to find any info on, as the majority made no impact in the West, and many had little recorded output except for maybe a few singles and compilation appearances. Such is the case with almost every act on the wonderful Soft Selection 84 compilation, a collection of somewhat lo-fidelity but charming synth pop put out by the Soft label in 1983.

This is the first of two tracks by the band La Sellrose Can Can, which sounds rather like it's aiming for Wordyrappinghood but is it's own strange thing.

I became aware of this album through the sadly now defunct "Stalking Duppi" blog, here's what they had to say about it:

Quote from: http://stalkingduppi.blogspot.com/2012/11/va-soft-selection-84-lp-soft-1983.html
The rarity of this LP, released on the mysterious Soft label, is matched only by its astounding quality. Each song is a wonderful little nugget of minimal-wave, beginning with clä-sick's lilting Chinoiserie intro "Morning in China". La Sellrose Can Can kicks things up a notch with a bouncy minimal-synth-pop number featuring oddball English lyrics about physical training.

Everyone do a flying saucer
Take the train and say hello.

Linolium's sole contribution is another Chinese-themed minimal-synth jam (what are the odds?), though this time with a sort of Picky Picnic-esque canned-sample technique going on over a snappy drum machine rhythm. The picnickers themselves take up the torch here with a demo version of Ha! Ha! Tarachine's "Sume ba Miyako", featuring all the squiggly, brain-damaged zolo we've all come to expect from these masterminds. The mood shifts for Pink Label's track "Good Luck", a sparsely-produced techno-kayo gem with a lovely chorus. Things take a slightly darker turn with NAME's "N.H.K.", a very weird little track with vocal samples in English and Japanese. The coda "play it backwards again" appears before Picky Picnic show back up with another goofball ballad, this time with a ukelele, syncopated hand claps and more frustrated grunting (I don't think this track was released elsewhere, but I might be wrong). Another very weird minimal song courtesy of ReveR, featuring a lot of wacky, reverb-y voices speaking English(?). Really dumb/great.
Side two kicks off with another NAME track, this time more pop-like with moody vocals about exhaustion with love.

Sometimes I feel so tired
Every time you make me saying 'I love you'

Sometime I feel so sad
Every time you stop me making love with you

Do we all need love?
And do I really know how to love you?


Following "Do We All Need Love?" is "Pearl", by Classic Pearl, which I first heard long ago on a CD compilation. It's very excellent and quite catchy. Then La Sellrose Can Can is back with another super fun English-language pop song whose lyrics I can't quite decipher. Something about candy and mercy and merry-go-rounds? Anyways, album-openers clä-sick return, book-ending Soft Selection 84 with another moody minimal synth tune ("Every Night") and the twinkling, dub-tinged "Black Nile".
The only thing not-great about this LP is how obscure every band besides Picky Picnic is. Does anyone have any info about these groups?

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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 26, 2021, 11:07:16 PM
Cathie O'Sullivan - The Orange Tree

https://youtu.be/IENLOoEv7iw (https://youtu.be/IENLOoEv7iw)

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An Australian harpist, she released a handful of records in the early 80s.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 26, 2021, 11:57:43 PM
Psychic TV - The Orchids
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKBuKcDPjzM

A lovely, lilting psych-pop song based around vibraphones, trumpet and oboe with lyrics written by Genesis P-Orridge about their dick piercing. Dreams Less Sweet from which this was taken was recorded with Holophonics, an infrequently used binaural recording system used very soothingly here but later on in the record to quite alarming effect on the sound of rabid dogs and gunfire. There's a very interesting article on the recording process available here: http://www.muzines.co.uk/articles/psychic-tv/6217

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Technologically 'Dreams Less Sweet' is the most advanced album ever released. Just on the level that it is the very first totally holophonic release, and we did not use a microphone at all. It is all on 24 track digital, and the recording was done on video cassettes, which were edited using video editing techniques. All the sound effects that are in there we recorded ourselves. A few examples: we went out with the head, Ringo, to a friend who trains champion attack dogs and recorded the growling of the dog as it attacked, for the gunshots we got a man who used to be the Sergeant At Arms in the Army base in Aldershot and who now works for a company called Bakti And Co (sic) who do all the gun sound effects for television. He came down with a case full of machine guns and the like. We had to get local Police permission to do the recording - basically to tell them that it wasn't an uprising. He ran around the fields around the studio, stalking and attacking Ringo and running past him, shooting him, and it was all taken down on the portable video recorder and later placed onto the main tapes. The coffin, and the sound of the burial was all for real. We actually dug a grave, we bought a real coffin from the undertakers in Farnham and placed Ringo in there and shovelled back the soil to give the recording of someone being buried.

Shortly after this album, Peter Christopherson and his boyfriend Jhonn Balance would leave, affronted by how unpleasantly cult like Thee Temple of Psychic Youth was becoming, to form Coil (more accurately as Jhonn had started Coil as a solo project a while earlier, Peter joined Coil but it was really when he got involved that the wonderful project I love so dearly got started properly).
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Post by: Phil_A on January 27, 2021, 12:02:50 AM
Microdisney - Pink-Skinned Man (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNDREXfPJuU)

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https://medium.com/learn-and-sing/iron-fist-in-velvet-glove-the-story-of-microdisney-part-1-244e583c690b

Microdisney formed in Cork, Ireland sometime during 1980, initially as a rowdy punk-funk outfit heavily influenced by The Pop Group with an ever-shifting line-up of local musicians(including future Stump singer Mike Lynch). By 1983 the line-up had slimmed somewhat to just Cathal Coughlan(vocals, words, keyboards) and Sean O'Hagan(music, keyboards, guitar). Pink-Skinned Man was their second single release, recorded just before Sean & Cathal transplanted themselves to London in search of bigger things. It was an unexpected highlight of the band's handful of reunion shows in 2018-19.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 27, 2021, 12:27:42 AM
this mortal coil - sixteen days / gathering dust

https://youtu.be/LUuXkHEwsZo (https://youtu.be/LUuXkHEwsZo)

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The b-side of Song To The Siren, this is a joining of two Modern English songs strung together. It once again features the vocals of The Cocteau's Elizabeth Fraser.
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Post by: Gregory Torso on January 27, 2021, 12:55:42 AM
La Sellrose Can Can - Aerobicise  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_7CsNgXnss)

This is amazing, I love it, thanks for posting. I really miss weird little music blogs like the one you linked to, full of crazy totally unknown music that someone with a real passion would be writing all these posts about and linking to the songs, mutant sounds and holy warbles and all those great places. I think a lot of them got royally fucke over by rapidshare/mediafire and then the rise of - i dunno - Tumblr, Facebook, Twitter or wherever they went to.

edit: Just realised the links are still active on that blog. I know what I'm doing for the next couple of hours.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 27, 2021, 02:34:44 AM
Killing Joke - Rejuvenation

https://youtu.be/W6EM1Wq2kAM (https://youtu.be/W6EM1Wq2kAM)

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Taken from their fourth album, Fire Dances, released in July. The first to feature new bass player Paul Raven.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 27, 2021, 09:33:42 AM
Lindsey Buckingham - Holiday Road

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcTLeuFni7s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcTLeuFni7s)

The Mac man's irresistibly upbeat theme tune from National Lampoon's Vacation and its sequels. It only reached #82 on the Billboard Hot 100.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 27, 2021, 11:10:17 AM
Collapsing New People - Fad Gadget. Released on Mute In 1983.

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Now, this what you call an 'influencer'.

Fad Gadget (Frank Tovey, born 8 September 1956, London) was the first artist signed to Mute Records. His groundbreaking 'Back To Nature' was released as Mute's second single, in October 1979. His live shows were known for being far more physical than those of many other electronic acts of the time, often featuring Tovey injuring himself. Following the album Gag in 1984, he dropped the stage name and in favour of his real name. The release of The Best of Fad Gadget in 2001 and his supporting Depeche Mode on their Exciter Tour looked set to help his relaunch as Fad Gadget, but he died, aged 45, of a heart attack on 3 April 2002, at his home in London.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLb9IvqxdH8
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 27, 2021, 11:22:15 AM
Psychic TV - The Orchids


This was recommended to me on CaB on the very first thread I started back in 2007. Still adore it.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 27, 2021, 11:49:12 AM
Strawberry Switchblade - Trees and Flowers

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl4OtSjTyNU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl4OtSjTyNU)

VU-influenced dream-pop bliss, with a side order of anxiety, from a Glasgow duo who only scored one bona fide hit, Since Yesterday, during their brief lifetime.

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In 1982, Jill Bryson and Rose McDowall, aka Strawberry Switchblade, were invited to record Radio 1 sessions for both John Peel and David 'Kid' Jensen. These sessions were heard by Bill Drummond (a Scottish musician who went on to form The KLF) and David Balfe, respectively manager and keyboard player with the recently defunct The Teardrop Explodes, who became the group's managers.

Strawberry Switchblade's first single, Trees and Flowers, was released in July 1983 through 92 Happy Customers, an independent record label run by Will Sergeant from Echo & The Bunnymen, and sold over 10,000 copies. It was featured at number 47 in John Peel's 1983 Festive 50. Trees and Flowers was written by Bryson about her agoraphobia.
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Post by: famethrowa on January 27, 2021, 12:16:36 PM
Lindsey Buckingham - Holiday Road

The Mac man's irresistibly upbeat theme tune from National Lampoon's Vacation and its sequels. It only reached #82 on the Billboard Hot 100.

Love this, with its Beach Boys style melisma and cheeky brevity, reminds me of good old times. Even better is the paranoid Gilliamesque video clip, totally redundant since the Family Truckster got involved:

https://youtu.be/KsYqIJqlPNc
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on January 27, 2021, 01:33:03 PM
Gregory Isaacs and the Roots Radics- Cool Down the Pace (live on The Tube).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_7MCRrYwxw&list=PLwoniT9z48a4j4rlwQVk-szRu7bwE5zvt&index=21

Right, this reggae tune by self-styled "Cool Ruler" Gregory Isaacs is hardly the most inspired bit of songwriting of all time, but the drums on this performance, by Style Scott
are absolutely mesmerising. Nothing jazzy or complex, just a relentless, heavy hitting thing a bit like a reggae version of Led Zep's When the Levee Breaks.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 27, 2021, 01:55:54 PM
Lustt - Pillow Talk
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfYlxH5HAXg&feature=emb_logo

This is an Italo cover of a song by Sylvia Robinson: Sylvia Robinson had originally written it for Al Green who felt it was too explicitly sexual and clashed with his religious beliefs (heaven forbid Al Green be associated with sex) so she recorded it herself in 1975. It was a hit. As with many Italo records from this period this was actually conceived in Belgium, and Lusst is the work of producers Anand Maharajh and Paul Klein and the singer Suzanne Stevens. Suzanne Stevens was mostly active in the mid to late 70s and unfortunately nothing I've listened to her off the back of this sounds anything like this. with the kind of descending arpeggiated bassline and lush synthesizer twinkles that I'm so infatuated with. Vaporwave fans may notice that this is the basis for Private Caller by Saint Pepsi: it's a stone cold banger in all the iterations I've mentioned but this version from 83 is my favourite.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 27, 2021, 02:08:34 PM
And because how could I not...?


Cabaret Voltaire - Title Sequence

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The album is from the soundtrack to the short 1982 movie of the same name by Peter Care. It's not that great a movie, tbh (see it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VouazNKXzpU) but the music is great. Some of it is genuinely disturbing, which is not a quality that I would normally ascribe to the work of the Cabs, even in their weirdest moments. However, Title Sequence is not disturbing but just a wonderful piece of noise that has a clear trajectory from beginning to end. A bit of pop noise, if you like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPYqPSASbM0
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on January 27, 2021, 02:32:04 PM
Still in Sheffield, a straightforward pop song:

(https://img.discogs.com/qY3SKvKHVsszpigxV_mqrNdl-1c=/fit-in/546x534/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-219444-1156708358.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhWEL5Wm-78

After getting dropped by Polydor, the Comsat Angels signed to Jive Records and tried to have some hit singles. This song and a re-recording of 'Independence Day' (originally on their debut album) stormed up the charts to #81 and 71. They recorded one more LP on Jive that did about the same and got dropped. So it goes.

I do like this song a lot, even if the band themselves seem to disown this period of their career, and reckon if it had been some new outfit's first single out of the blocks, it might have had a chance of making the top 40. My guess is that their previous rep as gloomy post-punkers meant their fanbase wasn't quite willing to follow them on a journey towards pop choruses and shiny 80s production values. Shame.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 27, 2021, 03:25:59 PM
Strawberry Switchblade - Trees and Flowers


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl4OtSjTyNU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl4OtSjTyNU)

VU-influenced dream-pop bliss, with a side order of anxiety, from a Glasgow duo who only scored one bona fide hit, Since Yesterday, during their brief lifetime.

Strawberry Switchblade - Go Away

And we'll throw in the b-side too, which is my own personal favourite SS  tune. This is a different version to that on the album.

https://youtu.be/mrDCrnE7sRA (https://youtu.be/mrDCrnE7sRA)
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 27, 2021, 03:49:28 PM
the Comsat Angels singed sang to Jive Records

;-p
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 27, 2021, 03:53:50 PM
Coil - S Is For Sleep
(https://img.discogs.com/pXcfMsRAgAXaR106SNHBVwTdJXA=/fit-in/400x400/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-102803-1301496976.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPLtQ9fHqWM

In an earlier post I alluded to the fact that Coil had existed before Peter Christopherson, Jhonn Balance's boyfriend who he'd met as a 17 year old Throbbing Gristle fan, joined in. Having re-appraised the three pre-Sleazy Coil tracks readily available this track is actually a lot more interesting than I remember: by no means a "pop song" but a fascinating glimpse at the beginnings of a very imnportant and interesting musical project. This track consists of a sparsely funky drum machine rhythm, a plodding bass line and Jhonn whispering. By no means essential, pop pickers, but if you're interested in Coil (and if not why aren't you?) and haven't heard it already this is a key piece of post-industrial history. Initially featured on the various artists The Elephant Table album alongside tracks by Nurse With Wound and Chris and Cosey this later appeared on the Coil compilation Unnatural History from 1990 which is how I own it.
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Post by: daf on January 27, 2021, 04:00:00 PM
Dolly Dots - Money Lover (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5QPfpvc11E)

(https://i.imgur.com/rfpu1h2.jpg)

Released in May 1983 - reached #28 on the Dutch charts

Quote
Dolly Dots were a popular Dutch girl band in the 1980s. With their style of upbeat dance/pop, they scored many hits throughout Europe. The sextet consisted of Angela Groothuizen, Angéla Kramers, Anita Heilker, Esther Oosterbeek, Patty Zomer and Ria Brieffies. They were most successful in the Netherlands, but they also scored hits in the rest of Europe. Their single "Radio" was a big hit in Japan. "P.S." was a Top 50 Billboard Hot Dance Club Play hit in 1981. They also enjoyed hits in Turkey, Lebanon, Iceland, and toured through Egypt.

Although the band were never successful in the United Kingdom, they did feature on 'Euro Charts' section of the 23 June 1983 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doW-HS3QsdI) edition of Top of the Pops when they were interviewed by DJ John Peel whilst on location in Amsterdam. He introduced them as "a kind of double Bananarama with a cherry on the top" and a short clip of their video for the single "Money Lover" was shown. He was then filmed sitting outside with the all-girl group and described them as "six innocent fawn-like creatures in search of a father figure". The girls then gave the Dutch chart top ten rundown.

(https://i.imgur.com/N50lwDe.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/2N3js6I.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/vBbYyVz.jpg)

At the peak of their success in 1984, the Dolly Dots had their own TV series, Barbie Dolls, Wallpaper, and a #1 hit, "Love Me Just a Little Bit More (Totally Hooked on You)". At the end of the following year, Anita Heilker left the group to have a daughter. She later became the Dutch voice of Donald Duck. The rest of the band continued as a five-piece.

Since the TV series' success in 1984, there had been plans to record a Hollywood film. In the summer of 1986, the five remaining Dolly Dots finally went to the US to work with an unfinished script and made a movie called Dutch Treat, which was released later that year. The movie (starring Lorin Dreyfuss and David Landsberg) and its soundtrack were modest successes in The Netherlands but were not released in the US due to poor reviews.

(https://i.imgur.com/4wpOQd6.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/0tqhhT8.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/rgPWCeF.jpg)

Their last single was an attempt to break into the UK market. The Dolly Dots teamed up with hit producers Stock Aitken & Waterman and released the song "What a Night". It reached number 18 in the Dutch charts, but was not successful in the UK. On 2 October 1988, the Dolly Dots played a farewell show at the Amsterdam Escape. After more than 9 years, they felt the time was right to go their separate ways. Ria Brieffies was later quoted "There's more to life than being a Dolly Dot".
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Post by: Norton Canes on January 27, 2021, 04:21:10 PM
Did the 'Dots' also appear on The Late, Late Breakfast Show? I'm sure I can remember Noelly introducing a band of winsome Dutch popstrels on one edition.
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Post by: daf on January 27, 2021, 04:44:43 PM
Can't find that, but here's a link to the Top of the Pops segment > > > Euro Charts with John Peel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doW-HS3QsdI)

(If anyone's wondering how the hell they managed to devote almost 7 minutes to that segment, the show was usually around 40 minutes long at this point - only becoming the standard half hour in 1985 when East Enders turned up)
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on January 27, 2021, 05:09:36 PM
;-p
I'm going to blame that typo on getting my vaccination yesterday and feeling a bit groggy at a result.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 27, 2021, 06:02:01 PM
I'm going to blame that typo on getting my vaccination yesterday and feeling a bit groggy at a result.

Oh, no! Apologies for the sick burn.
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Post by: daf on January 27, 2021, 06:54:36 PM
Peter Schilling – Major Tom (Coming Home) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO0A0XcWy88)

(https://i.imgur.com/SlrS9kC.jpg)

Originally released in May 1983 - reached #42 in the UK charts in April 1984 (as a re-release)

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Pierre Michael Schilling was born in Stuttgart, Germany. His songs often feature science-fiction themes like aliens, astronauts and catastrophes. His 1983 album, Error in the System, generated his only international hit single, "Major Tom (Coming Home)", a retelling of Dave Bowie & The Dave Bowie Band's classic 1969 song "Space Oddity". Although the song was originally recorded in German, the international hit version was sung in English. In 1990, Schilling suffered from burnout, and the following year he took a break in a padded room, falling wanking to the floor while Steve Strange bent low to pick up a pebble in front of a trundling bulldozer on an apocalyptic beach.

(https://i.imgur.com/Rff0HBi.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/65LvgXG.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/u0XLVRZ.jpg)

In the late '90s, Schilling formed a side project called Space Pilots. The band recorded only one song [lazy bastards!], titled "Trip to Orion". The song is based on and includes vocal samples from the German science-fiction TV show Raumpatrouille Orion.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 27, 2021, 07:00:55 PM
The Smile And The Kiss - Bonk. Released on Ensign in 1983.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/mbgBKP.jpg)

Hold on, who is that blonde on the sleeve cover who also sings backing vocals on this Wham-a-like single? Why it's none other than shoegazing songstress Toni Halliday out of Curve.

Barry Flynn's brainchild was the early 1980s New Wave band Bonk. He changed his sound to grab a UK number 96 chart single "The Smile and the Kiss" in 1983. It was re-issued under a more radio-friendly band name, The Chant of Barry Flynn, Not that it made a blind bit of difference in record sales.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxo9QN7DLpA&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 27, 2021, 07:08:10 PM
The Kinks - Heart of Gold

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0d/7e/59/0d7e59758a21f3654b3b8e9bc3478354.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSyDnXTONC4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSyDnXTONC4)

There's more than a hint of The Pretenders in this track from State of Confusion, the album which begat The Kinks' unexpected comeback hit, Come Dancing. A lovely song. Ray Davies was in a relationship with Chrissie Hynde at the time, of course.

I have no idea if he wrote it about Hynde, but it's certainly a musical tribute.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 27, 2021, 07:41:20 PM
Gene Loves Jezebel - Bruises

https://youtu.be/zBN_vbFGrTQ (https://youtu.be/zBN_vbFGrTQ)

(https://img.discogs.com/d4LC1wME-He5JTE_YM4uKKb2Mxs=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-813660-1161454315.jpeg.jpg)

Formed in Porthcawl, Wales, in 1981 by The Aston brothers. The early lineup featured Julianne Regan on bass before she went on to form All About Eve. This is their third single. They disintegrated in the early 90s amongst sibling feuding and lawsuits.
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Post by: daf on January 27, 2021, 09:00:00 PM
XTC - Love On A Farmboy's Wages (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZBkCxvX9og)

(https://i.imgur.com/XmSMUW1.jpg)

Released in September 1983 as a gatefold double-pack 7-inch single - reached #50 in the UK chart

Quote
Andy Partridge : "I really enjoyed coming up with the drum patterns on this song. I had a funny little drum machine -- I can't remember the name of it, but it was sort of programmable. I liked the smallness of it. It suited where I wanted to go -- I wanted to get away from giant drum sounds, and I wanted to get away from big, noisy ROCK. So here we have this lovely little cyclical drum pattern -- which we actually rehearsed with Terry, but he was trying to think of a way of telling us that he was going to leave the band. I don't know if he was purposely struggling with it as a way of vindicating what he was about to say -- "Look, I'm off" -- but he couldn't seem to grasp this pattern, which normally he wouldn't have had any trouble with. It was a case of sticks-down halfway through. The cymbals were still swinging, and he's saying, "Look, I'm off. I've got to go." He couldn't really explain why, but he was getting a lot of pressure from his brand-new Australian wife, who was pregnant and didn't want to live on a shitty, brand-new estate.

"On this song, the first thing that fell out lyrically was me -- and I do this a lot -- just gibbering idiotically over one of the guitar patterns. I think the first lyric that came along was, "Shilling for the fellow who brings the sheep in," because that sounded onomatopoeically like what I was playing on the guitar. "Shilling for the fellow who milks the herrrrd" -- you know, that was where we were saying, "Oh yeah, we've got to get the bass to be part of the herd!" In the choruses, I asked Colin, "Can you get any more cow out of your bass?"  We wanted someone to think, "Wow, what are they doing there? They're squeezing a heifer there. Squeezing a Jersey." No, it's really the bass, trying to get it to sound more like a cow. It's all down to the stage-setting, you know? You've got to have the correct scenery."


(https://i.imgur.com/Qd9AVBe.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/5otdqoS.jpg)

"The single for this song came out in a gatefold sleeve that looked like a wallet -- and it really was my wallet! I came up with the design, and when I talked to Design Clinic, I said, "Look, instead of putting lettering over the top of the photograph, why don't you actually go to one of those places that emboss leather goods, and just get the title embossed into my wallet?" Which they did, and they put a few bits and pieces in the wallet, to suggest I wasn't well off -- there was an old 10-shilling note, which of course was defunct currency by then, and there was a photograph of some cheeky-looking girl -- who everyone at the time thought was my wife, but instead was just a 1950s beauty who Design Clinic selected and slipped in the little clear holder in the wallet."

(https://i.imgur.com/rVhkYhj.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/mheVsYK.jpg)

"Of course they sent me the wallet back after the photo session, and I thought, "Oh no, of course -- now I've got this all over my wallet! If I go in the pub and take this out, people are going to think I'm a..." -- you know, why would I have the name of my band embossed on my wallet? And the name of the latest single? So I had to buy a new wallet."
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Post by: Hooverbag Sherlocks on January 27, 2021, 09:06:20 PM
In Memoriam (1983 edition)

The Unknown Cases - Masimbabele
Single released in Germany, 1983

(https://i.imgur.com/7kC7OVK.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/1lz9ziw.jpg)

Collaboration between German percussionist Stefan Krachten, keyboardist Helmut Zerlett and Ghanaian percussionist/singer Anthony ‘Reebop’ Kwaku Baah. Christened 'Reebop' by Dizzie Gillespie, Kwaku Baah had previously worked with Traffic, Can, the Stones, Viv Stanshall and Billy Cobham among others as well as releasing a number of well received solo albums. He died in January 1983 at the age of 39 while on stage, performing with Jimmy Cliff.

Peel hailed ‘Masimbabele’ as ‘one of those tracks you wish would never end’. He wasn’t wrong – an irresistible mix of psychedelic rock, funk and Afrobeat. Featured in the 1984 Festive Fifty when released in the UK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX1Sww3U9ek



Singers & Players featuring Prince Far I - Bedward The Flying Preacher
From the album 'Staggering Heights', released 1983

(https://i.imgur.com/orKD5jP.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/5mJrGGd.jpg)

I’m not going to attempt to summarise reggae legend and self-styled 'Voice Of Thunder' Michael J Williams AKA Prince Far I (except to note that he was originally called King Cry Cry due to his tendency to burst into tears when angry). This site does a much better job and is a great resource if you’re interested in all things On-U Sound:
 
http://www.skysaw.org/onu/artists/personnel/princefari.html

Far I was shot at his home in Kingston, Jamaica in September 1983 following a dispute about money and died later in hospital. He, too, was just 39 years old. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esWudP2IofM

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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 27, 2021, 09:25:39 PM
Howard Devoto - Rainy Season

https://youtu.be/jJVtpB7YOak (https://youtu.be/jJVtpB7YOak)

(https://img.discogs.com/0_1PETkjKp4P0aq5nYvi6jtBPyI=/fit-in/400x400/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-182310-1172766257.jpeg.jpg)

After Magazine split in 1981, Devoto spent two years putting together a solo album, Jerky Versions of the Dream, with former Magazine keyboard player Dave Formula. This is the first single taken from the album.
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Post by: daf on January 28, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
Dennis Waterman & George Cole  ‎– Quids And Quavers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlYK2tJYVcY)

(https://i.imgur.com/jAqM9sq.jpg)

Released in December 1983 as the B-side of the single "What Are We Gonna Get 'Er Indoors?" - reached #21 in the UK chart

Quote
Minder was a British comedy-drama series about the London criminal underworld. Initially produced by Verity Lambert, it was made by Euston Films, a subsidiary of Thames Television. The original show ran for ten series between 29 October 1979 and 10 March 1994. The original show starred Dennis Waterman as Terry McCann, a Fulham FC fan, an honest and likeable bodyguard and George Cole as Arthur Daley, a socially ambitious, but highly unscrupulous importer-exporter, wholesaler, used-car salesman and purveyor of anything else from which there was money to be made, whether within the law or not.

(https://i.imgur.com/xPTL62o.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/9aarZWP.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/nGuX6Sa.jpg)

The theme tune, "I Could Be So Good for You", was released on 13 October 1980 and originally written in 1979 by Gerard Kenny and Patricia Waterman and sung by Dennis Waterman, the official credits of Kenny/Waterman often lead people to mis-credit Dennis as co-writer - when it was "Er Indoors" who wrote the feem toon all along!

The series inspired a hit single, "Arthur Daley (E's Alright!)" by The Firm, which made the UK Top 20 in 1982.
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Post by: daf on January 28, 2021, 12:23:25 AM
A bonus point for anyone who spotted today's hidden 'Connections' Round :

(https://i.imgur.com/Bi3HOBP.jpg)

Money Lover  / Peter Schilling /  Love on a Farmboys Wages / Quids & Quavers

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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 28, 2021, 02:08:38 AM
James - What's the World

https://youtu.be/ed_wB7lCRKk (https://youtu.be/ed_wB7lCRKk)

(https://images.45cat.com/james-whats-the-world-factory-s.jpg)

From Manchester and formed in 1982. This is from their debut single , Jimone, released on Factory. James later went on to great commercial success and are still going today.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 28, 2021, 09:40:58 AM
Tom Waits - Underground

(https://www.denofgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/misctw.rf_.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaTSQzYIR3U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaTSQzYIR3U)

By the early 1980s, Tom Waits had grown tired of his beatnik barfly persona. He was in danger of becoming a parody of himself. So, with considerable assistance from his wife, Kathleen Brennan, he drastically reinvented himself. Out went the jazzy torch ballads, and in came a mutant army of polkas, tangos, waltzes, surrealist R&B and as many unusual instruments as he could get his spindly hands on. An artist reborn.

This, the opening track from Swordfishtrombones, is a startling statement of intent. "Welcome to my new subterranean world, folks. You're either with me or you're not."
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Post by: Phil_A on January 28, 2021, 11:09:00 AM
Pulp - Joking Apart (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5KYL19sAJs)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/_ozAHBiXK5rUu0LvRUYgrfgsDp0KSyERResYI8jXOeWiV5JpOQJTZBEORjqfIUGoQJISfb-YVwwBDQFlP0SSf9--QTGzDVGIWyfF72FsPbiCZr6MVpLiYDEaPFuCwbQHygU2wzwtVw)

Jarvis is famously dismissive of Pulp's early years, particularly the naive fumblings of their first album It, but this one's real beauty. Sounds like it could almost be from an early Divine Comedy album.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 28, 2021, 01:23:22 PM
Coronation Dub - The I-Royals.  B side released on Media Marvels in 1983.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/lfCsou.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/JjYQVL.jpg)

Little info on Izzy Royal but by' eck, chuck, 'appen this single was a firm John Peel favourite. A right Bobby Dazzler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b4CVjOVlGw&feature=emb_logo

Non-dub version A side
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsaNR7lO_lo
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Post by: Jockice on January 28, 2021, 01:57:18 PM
Pulp - Joking Apart (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5KYL19sAJs)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/_ozAHBiXK5rUu0LvRUYgrfgsDp0KSyERResYI8jXOeWiV5JpOQJTZBEORjqfIUGoQJISfb-YVwwBDQFlP0SSf9--QTGzDVGIWyfF72FsPbiCZr6MVpLiYDEaPFuCwbQHygU2wzwtVw)

Jarvis is famously dismissive of Pulp's early years, particularly the naive fumblings of their first album It, but this one's real beauty. Sounds like it could almost be from an early Divine Comedy album.

Point of order. Although that photo features the first Pulp line-up I saw live it's not the one on the LP. The deposed drummer Wayne Furniss (on the left) appears on it playing guitar on a couple of tracks but the other two had buggered off to universiity. Simon Hinkler, later of The Mission played on it  and produced it, along with his brother David, the now deceased Peter Boam and Artery's drummer under a false name.

Then not long afterwards along came Russell Senior, and it all went downhill from them.
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Post by: chveik on January 28, 2021, 02:35:18 PM
Rah Band - Message from the Stars (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b425ftP_8XQ)

(https://img.discogs.com/Pb-ZM8-mjQlKc3rG5puwBP6CSF8=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-11171706-1512517879-5691.jpeg.jpg)

William Onyeabor - Good Name (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27nCc2eiERM)

(https://img.discogs.com/0ToaUoa-sX_sC91PPBWXyrlSft8=/fit-in/600x595/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1461668-1405391518-3442.jpeg.jpg)

just some good synth shit innit
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 28, 2021, 03:01:57 PM
Dave Ball with Gavin Friday - Strict Tempo
(https://img.discogs.com/x7Cbu-FmDSzZCD7GtaiUkgtanHA=/fit-in/600x592/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-212156-1215285544.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRib0rUK_hM

The Soft Cell lads were very busy in 83: as well as The Art of Falling Apart and Marc's solo ventures, Dave Ball also made an album In Strict Tempo which as you'd expect sounds pretty much like Soft Cell but with different vocalists. I've chosen my favourite off the record, the almost title track voiced by Gavin Friday from the Virgin Prunes but the other vocalists on the record are Genesis P-Orridge and Ball himself. Marc Almond designed the remarkable cover of Bee (Paul Hampshire later of Into A Circle) strapped to a timpani being played by Jhonn Balance. An all-star cast in other words.
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Post by: Jockice on January 28, 2021, 03:21:37 PM
And, in another of those contrived connections I#, so fond of, Bee played keyboards in Y?, who later became the Danse Society. You can see him on their first ever TV appearance at the Futurama Festival in 1980. They were billed as Y? but had apparently changed their name to Danse Crazy when playing the show then realised that people would think they were a 2 Tone band if that went up on posters, so became a society instead by the time it was broadcast, by which time Bee had buggered off. I don't know the guy but apparently he's friends with an ex of mine who lives in London nowadays. And is originally from Manchester so I'm not sure how they met. Small world.

Anyway, please forgive me for ruining the sequence by posting something from 1980 but it's just funny. Steve obviously still had some work to do on his image. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEY-r7_y8Yw
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Post by: chveik on January 28, 2021, 03:48:59 PM
Danielle Dax - The Shamemen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3GyL7bn8B8)

(https://img.discogs.com/wa_czWKCskQtzZoumk36aS21OG0=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-945206-1399924880-8793.jpeg.jpg)

her first album after Lemon Kittens split up. it's a very creative effort, with lovely melodies and adventurous experimentations.

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Post by: Gregory Torso on January 28, 2021, 03:56:15 PM
Marie And The Atom - Isol (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzVnwNVn5HI)

(https://i.imgur.com/LMbFr0e.jpg)

Something lovely from New Zealand. An early Flying Nun release from Marie And The Atom. Music for spiders and lonely lighthouse keepers.

Quote
The Auckland ensemble’s core was Gill Civil (ex-Bongos, ex-Rhythm Method) and Sara Westwood (viola, accordion, percussion, piano) and Virginia Were (guitar, vocals), with recording and performing support from Alison Wallace, John Quigley, David Daniel, Lee Connelly, Caroline Somerville, Patrick Waller and Brett Mason. Their two EPs – Yellow Read Aloud (December, 1983) and Torch (1985) – were the first on Flying Nun Records by a predominately female group and two of the label’s most adventurous early releases.
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Post by: chveik on January 28, 2021, 04:04:17 PM
The Ex - Gonna Rob the Spermbank (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wZuFV3uAf4)

(https://img.discogs.com/gDktnxR0dAh4iEyeYg7HVxW1kPA=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-621081-1284996435.jpeg.jpg)


just a fun song from the best punk band in the netherlands (well, it's only one I'm aware of). they made a very good album the same year, Tumult, but there's nothing as catchy on it. it's more brooding and repetitive post-punk
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 28, 2021, 05:47:50 PM
Passion Killer - One The Juggler. Released on Regard in 1983.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/QspM8F.jpg)

God, as a teenager, I hated this band with (if you pardon the pun?) a passion. The pretentious name, the faux-diddakoi image, the hair product, their smug faces. And that was before hearing a single note. Until tonight.

It's an odd record. Sounds like B.A.D., a proto-late 90's Britpop brattish chorus with The Fall's 'Hit The North' brass riffs. It's growing on me.

One the Juggler was a British alternative rock band. The name was derived from the first Tarot card. It was chosen to complement the band's Gypsy image. The group signed a record contract with RCA Records in 1982. They had a minor hit in the UK Singles Chart when their track "Passion Killer" spent one week at No. 71 in February 1983. They supported artists such as Elvis Costello and Eurythmics. In 1985, a contractual dispute resulted in their last album, produced and played on by Mick Ronson not being promoted. The group disbanded soon afterward.

The band's first album Nearly a Sin was re-released by Angel Air Records on CD in 2015 and met with positive reviews.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tgUOfhjVP4&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 28, 2021, 05:50:49 PM
Lloyd Cole & The Commotions - You Win

https://youtu.be/Gxk0BRu_ues (https://youtu.be/Gxk0BRu_ues)

(https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-5OpFzuvQeHdB-0-t500x500.jpg)

Formed in Glasgow, Scotland in 1982. This is an demo that never made it onto official release. They went on to release three successful albums and eleven singles before splitting in 1988.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 28, 2021, 06:14:04 PM
Ivor Cutler & Linda Hirst - Women of the World

(https://alchemi.typepad.com/.a/6a00d834518ebd69e2011168c3fbad970c-600wi)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfONxAeuOPg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfONxAeuOPg)

"Men have had their shot, and look at where we've got."

A touching feminist mantra from the harmonium-stroking bard of Govan, with vocals provided by an artist who has enjoyed a long and fascinatingly varied career: https://www.trinitylaban.ac.uk/study/teaching-staff/linda-hirst/ (https://www.trinitylaban.ac.uk/study/teaching-staff/linda-hirst/)

Released as a single on Rough Trade. Did not chart.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Jockice on January 28, 2021, 06:20:34 PM
Passion Killer - One The Juggler. Released on Regard in 1983.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/QspM8F.jpg)

God, as a teenager, I hated this band with (if you pardon the pun?) a passion. The pretentious name, the faux-diddakoi image, the hair product, their smug faces. And that was before hearing a single note. Until tonight.

It's an odd record. Sounds like B.A.D., a proto-late 90's Britpop brattish chorus with The Fall's 'Hit The North' brass riffs. It's growing on me.

One the Juggler was a British alternative rock band. The name was derived from the first Tarot card. It was chosen to complement the band's Gypsy image. The group signed a record contract with RCA Records in 1982. They had a minor hit in the UK Singles Chart when their track "Passion Killer" spent one week at No. 71 in February 1983. They supported artists such as Elvis Costello and Eurythmics. In 1985, a contractual dispute resulted in their last album, produced and played on by Mick Ronson not being promoted. The group disbanded soon afterward.

The band's first album Nearly a Sin was re-released by Angel Air Records on CD in 2015 and met with positive reviews.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tgUOfhjVP4&feature=emb_logo

Yeah, I saw them supporting someone. It wasn't one of those two acts though. And I can even remember at which venue. This is going to bug me now.
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on January 28, 2021, 06:25:30 PM
Lloyd Cole & The Commotions - You Win
I like that - presumably from sessions for the first album? The producer should have told Laughing Boy Lloyd to just come up with better lyrics for the chorus and it'd have made for a single, I reckon.
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Post by: Jockice on January 28, 2021, 06:30:35 PM
Big Country! Although they're not on the listing for that particular show. Apparently someone called Kingdom, who I've never heard of, were that support act for that night.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 28, 2021, 06:41:22 PM
I like that - presumably from sessions for the first album? The producer should have told Laughing Boy Lloyd to just come up with better lyrics for the chorus and it'd have made for a single, I reckon.

yeah, good isn't it. I was surprised it was jettisoned.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 28, 2021, 06:42:58 PM
Nick Heyward - On A Sunday

https://youtu.be/14z3vu5FXt8 (https://youtu.be/14z3vu5FXt8)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IgqOUqVAJQM/hqdefault.jpg)

After leaving Haircut 100 in late 1982, Heyward embarked on a fitfully successful solo career. He continues to perform and record to the current day. After three top 20 hits, this was his fourth single but it failed to crack the top 40.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on January 28, 2021, 07:03:47 PM
Matakena – Nuts On Me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6EtjNxLTuk)

(https://i.imgur.com/n3PeCOC.jpg)

Released in 1983 in Italy - did not chart

This was a one-off Italo boogie studio project from producers Luciano Ninzatti and Stefano Pulga - the team behind Kano.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 28, 2021, 08:07:34 PM
Tropical Hot Dog Night - Coati Mundi (with Ruben Blades). Released on Virgin in 1983. B Side.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/SxfqJq.jpg)

Let's add some chili to this thread?

Tasty Captain Beefheart cover version flipside by the mighty atom, Coati Mundi AKA Andy Hernandez from Kid Creole & The Coconuts and the esteemed Latin musician & fellow screen actor, Ruben Blades. You may recognise him from Spike Lee movies and Fear The Walking Dead.

XTC nerds here will know Blades recorded Andy Partridge's favourite ever cover version of one of his songs

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/OHrK5a.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/HLOP73.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/97SL96.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb003NyLxKI&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on January 28, 2021, 08:16:02 PM
Will Powers ‎– Dancing For Mental Health (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu5ACrGOGi0)

(https://i.imgur.com/n8pZ8BJ.jpg)

Title track of the album "Dancing For Mental Health" - released in 1983

Quote
Lynn Goldsmith was born in Detroit, Michigan. After college, Goldsmith worked for Elektra Records. In 1971, she met Joshua White and worked with him as a director for Joshua TV, the first company to do video magnification for rock groups entertaining at large venues. That same year, Goldsmith became the youngest member ever to be inducted into the Directors Guild of America. After directing a documentary piece on Grand Funk Railroad for ABC, Goldsmith made a film on Grand Funk called "We're an American Band" in 1973. This led to her becoming the band's co-manager. In the mid-seventies, she left managing and directing to focus on her photography. Goldsmith started the first photo agency that represented images of famous people in the entertainment field. The company, LGI, grew over the next 20 years to represent over 300 photographers worldwide.

During that time, Goldsmith also wrote songs and performed as Will Powers - releasing a self-help comedy music album Dancing for Mental Health in 1983 - which used affirmations set to music to poke fun at the self-help entrepreneurs who "build the listener's inner self and encourage personal growth through the thought that anything is possible".

(https://i.imgur.com/D5BcIIG.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/SD2Lywa.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/sHhCLYb.jpg) 

Will Powers is portrayed by Goldsmith during the spoken word sections as well as in the sung sections, her voice shifted downward in pitch, via a harmonizer, to sound male. Key musical collaborators were Jacob Brackman and Steve Winwood. Additional contributors to the recording included Sting, Nile Rodgers, Todd Rundgren, Spud from The Brumbeats and Tom Bailey. The album produced two hit singles : "Smile" and  "Kissing With Confidence" - which featuring Carly Simon as the uncredited lead singer.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jamiefairlie on January 28, 2021, 09:00:28 PM
The Smiths - Reel Around the Fountain

https://youtu.be/_kjBbJcY9ME (https://youtu.be/_kjBbJcY9ME)

(https://img.discogs.com/2cXXRppG2FH1wRaf7HRsgDDKaEQ=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-2025600-1259269712.jpeg.jpg)

Originally planned as the follow-up single to Hand In Glove but was replaced by This Charming Man at the last minute. The version on the album is different and that one made it to number 6 in the Festive Fifty.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on January 28, 2021, 10:00:00 PM
Elvis Costello and The Attractions - Love Went Mad (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U1Cn-wnpis)

(https://i.imgur.com/NaYnkgZ.jpg)

Featured on the album "Punch The Clock" - released in August 1983

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"Punch The Clock" was Elvis Costello's eighth album, and following Nick Lowe (Trust), Billy Sherrill (Almost Blue), and Geoff Emerick (Imperial Bedroom), Clive Langer and Alan Winstanley were the next poor saps to perch precariously atop the producer's exploding drum-stool . . .

(https://i.imgur.com/F1jDHBQ.jpg)

Elvis Costello : "I first met Clive as a fellow producer for Two-Tone Records. By the time I had finished The Specials' debut album Clive and Alan had moved with Madness to Stiff Records. Despite making the most "English" music on the planet "Clanger and Winstanley" even managed to get Madness to No. 1 in America with "Our House". By 1983 they were pretty irresistible and unstoppable. They favoured the "building-block" method of recording: retaining very little from the original "live" take (often only the drums) and tailoring each instrumental overdub to best serve the arrangement. This system naturally precluded the spontaneity of our past "happy accidents" but could yield startling results when the last piece was in place."

(https://i.imgur.com/lUU33ck.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/MHlB4Fe.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/ddQKWxa.jpg) 

"Many of the [demos] featured passages of two-part vocal harmony, and the influence of Lennon and McCartney and Roy Wood is much more apparent than on the final horn-driven recordings. Certainly the “direct” electric guitar accompaniments all seem to take their cue from very early George Harrison parts… only played by someone wearing boxing gloves. Certainly, even a slight and lyrically laboured song about life in a nuclear shelter such as “Love Went Mad” is clearly musically rooted in the 1960s, and I suppose Clive saw it as his job to bring us more into the moment, hence the voguish arrangement that the song barely deserved.

(https://i.imgur.com/0ePXwEl.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/bAtwGbq.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/NoFBKKq.jpg) 

I’m not sure that anything vital was really lost in submitting these songs to the Clanger/Winstanley method, as we took to the recording process with some gusto. However, whenever I return to any of these songs today they usually come out sounding closer to these original drafts."
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 28, 2021, 10:56:34 PM
R.E.M. - Perfect Circle

https://youtu.be/6hESQr0XVBg (https://youtu.be/6hESQr0XVBg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c0/R.E.M._-_Murmur.jpg)

formed in 1980 by drummer Bill Berry, guitarist Peter Buck, bassist Mike Mills, and lead vocalist Michael Stipe who were students at the University of Georgia. They released debut single Radio Free Europe in 1981 and this is taken from their debut album Murmur, recorded in January. After a stellar career, embracing both commercial and artistic highs and lows, R.E.M. disbanded amicably in September 2011,
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Better Midlands on January 28, 2021, 11:53:56 PM
Visual - The Music Got Me (https://youtu.be/uqdA9y6_0FI)

(https://img.discogs.com/s6uBf75BnDLdgl0WbBbqMrpo4-s=/fit-in/600x603/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-80290-1421721224-6220.jpeg.jpg)

This is the start of vocal house music as far as I'm concerned, it inspired the NY/New Jersey sound that came in the late 80s (Chanelle/Adeva/Blaze/Smack etc).

Quote
The early 1980s was a time of explosive creativity for club music, especially in New York City, where DJs like Larry Levan and Tee Scott played endless sets at nightclubs like Zanzibar and Paradise Garage.
Boyd Jarvis was already playing a keyboard synthesizer in clubs when he met the DJ Timmy Regisford at the Garage and they soon began collaborating.
Jarvis played the synthesizer while Regisford mixed records and played beats he had made. They recorded their music on a reel-to-reel tape machine at Jarvis’s home and played it in live sets in clubs and on the New York radio station WBLS-FM, a hotbed of early dance music.
Their raw, minimalist mixes became popular with the club kids in New York and soon spread to other cities.
“He came up with his own style of bass lines, and he parlayed the bass lines into a lot of different music, and it opened the gateway to what they now call house music”
Jarvis’s bass lines “really penetrated the dance floor; it was deeper than any bass that you could ever hear, that’s what signified his sound.”
The two released “The Music Got Me,” a dance song with a sinuous bass line, in 1983.
“We had a vibe, and a ragtag, rough edge to what we did, our stuff wasn’t orthodox at all. We were just kids, with toys that we were playing with, and the record became big.”
"We had a vibe, and a ragtag, rough edge to what we did,” Jarvis said in an interview “Our stuff wasn’t orthodox at all. We were just kids, with toys that we were playing with, and the record became big.”
They went on to produce records, sometimes in collaboration with artists and under different names, and remixed songs by Madonna, Sade and Chaka Khan, among others.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on January 29, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
Steve Wright And The Sisters Of Soul ‎– Get Some Therapy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_60pfU-lmE)

(https://i.imgur.com/vka8pxw.jpg)

Released in September 1983 - did not chart

Quote
Steve Wright remains an enigma - even to his closest colleagues. On air he is full of chat, one-liners and the master of a format he first brought to Radio 1 in the 1980s. Off air he prefers his own company, living on cheap microwave meals and junk snacks. For breakfast, Wright usually asks for poached or scrambled eggs on brown toast from a restaurant called Avelli's, porridge from Make Mine, a small bacon or sausage butty with ketchup from Eat and a skinny latte with one sweetener. For lunch, Wright insists on a baked potato, or chilli chicken box from Leon's or he may opt for a chicken pie. Wright asks for his lunch at precisely 1.30pm and the broadcasting assistant is instructed to "lay out Steve's food on the white cabinet in his studio".

(https://i.imgur.com/rynEzeb.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/Px9eZwH.jpg)

Little is known about Wright's personal life. He is allergic to feathers and penicillin. Once, while on a road trip in New England, he was listening to a song on the radio by Santana when he pulled up to a gas station. At the gas station was Carlos Santana himself - True dat! #FACTOID
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on January 29, 2021, 12:06:31 AM
Well, how did everyone do? Today's hidden 'Connections' Round was, of course, . . .

(https://i.imgur.com/uhvlhjI.jpg)

. . . Crackpots

Nuts On Me  /  Dancing For Mental Health  /  Love Went Mad  /  Get Some Therapy

Four points if you spotted it after the first one!

Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Astronaut Omens on January 29, 2021, 02:00:38 AM
I.R.T. (Interboro Rhythm Team) Watch the Closing Doors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx6y0yN44B4

(https://www.soulandfunkmusic.com/backcover/single/856483142/back-cover-single-i_r_t-watch_the_closing_doors.jpg)
(https://images.recordsale.de/600/600/interboro-rhythm-team-watch-the-closing-doors-1.jpg)

Jolly rap about travelling on the New York subway with namechecks for stations along the way from South Ferry to Harlem.
Note the exact synth sound that appears on the Flirts "Passion" that we had earlier in the thread dropping in around 40 seconds in.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Astronaut Omens on January 29, 2021, 02:11:53 AM
Uncle Jamm's Army- Yes, Yes, Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeUyHZGxjnA&feature=emb_logo
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.oYFb_FR0v0iKsnSNfrTXZAHaFE?w=266&h=182&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7)
Uncle Jamm's Army were an LA funk-electro-hip hop act that featured future hip hop producer Egyptian Lover in their ranks.
Tracey Marrow A.k.A Ice-T was a dancer in their live show when they put this, the B-side to Dial-A-Freak, out.

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP._tysNKMa1usvsWS3ExaMcgHaFj?w=232&h=180&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7)
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 29, 2021, 02:50:10 AM
Well, how did everyone do? Today's hidden 'Connections' Round was, of course, . . .

(https://i.imgur.com/uhvlhjI.jpg)

. . . Crackpots

Nuts On Me  /  Dancing For Mental Health  /  Love Went Mad  /  Get Some Therapy

Four points if you spotted it after the first one!


‘Ave a word?’ X
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jamiefairlie on January 29, 2021, 03:51:17 AM
The Cure - Lament

https://youtu.be/bvkSwtFMM44 (https://youtu.be/bvkSwtFMM44)

(https://img.discogs.com/2kfLvksiK6L5BFHXqf_1EgVu7Kg=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-512557-1588098776-6003.jpeg.jpg)

After the band imploded at the end of the emotionally grueling 1982 Pornography tour, Simon Gallup left the band, leaving just Robert Smith and Lol Tolhurst. Smith busied himself working with The Banshees but he returned to Cure business when asked to contribute something to the November 1982 edition of Flexipop magazine.  He wrote and recorded Lament by himself.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on January 29, 2021, 04:05:21 PM
The Firm ‎– Long Live The National (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dRXbyukttM)

(https://i.imgur.com/M1BrCKN.jpg)

Released in March 1983 - did not chart

Quote
The Firm was formed by guitarist, session musician and music producer John O'Connor who ran his own recording studio (Bark Studios in Walthamstow, London) specialising in songwriters' demos, for some ten years. In the early 1980s, he decided to concentrate more on playing and writing music, working as a session musician with artists in a variety of genres, from Maddy Prior and Isla St Clair to the more commercial pop of Bucks Fizz.

In 1982, he and fellow guitarist Grahame Lister wrote a novelty song, “Arthur Daley 'E's Alright", based on the Arthur Daley character from the British TV series Minder, and including many catchphrases from the show. Unable to find an artist willing to release the song, O'Connor and Lister did it themselves, under the name of 'The Firm'. It spent seven weeks in the UK top 40, peaking at No. 14, and was performed on the TV chart show Top of the Pops on 29 July 1982 featuring former Rubettes guitarist Tony Thorpe on lead vocals.

In 1983, with the future of the Grand National horse race in doubt, The Firm released the song "Long Live the National" as a single in support of the campaign to keep the race alive. The single did not chart.

(https://i.imgur.com/cdtUXVq.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/8fagIhN.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/gCSWdSy.jpg)

Further singles included "Bravo, Costa Brava" in 1985, "Girls Got Feelings Too" and "Superheroes" both released in 1987.

(https://i.imgur.com/dXpMcqX.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/iVokWS1.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/WdPgUXY.jpg)

In 1987, the group recorded another novelty song, this time based on catchphrases from the Star Trek TV series set to a catchy, childlike tune with an increasingly frantic arrangement. Group member Tony Thorpe, adopted the stage name Ron Spock in homage to Star Trek character Spock. It was rejected by all the record labels which O'Connor approached with it. Believing it to be worth releasing, O'Connor pressed an initial 500 copies on his own label, Bark Music. The record, "Star Trekkin'", spent two weeks at number one in the UK and a total of nine weeks in the UK top 40, and reached No. 3 in Australia, with comparable success in Japan and Europe and worldwide sales of over a million copies.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 29, 2021, 05:56:24 PM
The Cramps - Thee Most Exalted Potentate of Love
(https://img.discogs.com/M1sUf-heHf7SYe1Ip7pvcdekEX8=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-520847-1439245320-4519.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8T45wL4eJs

The Cramps Smell of Female is the record I would use to introduce anyone so far uninitiated to one of the greatest rock'n'roll bands to ever exist and it starts with a real bang with this. With "I could teach you how to read the book of life, or you can just look at the pictures if you like" Lux Interior sums up Morrissey's entire thing before he'd got started and renders him totally redundant and he does so backed by the powerhouse that is Poison Ivy, Nick Knox and Kid Congo Powers.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 29, 2021, 06:14:28 PM
Danielle Dax - The Shamemen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3GyL7bn8B8)

(https://img.discogs.com/wa_czWKCskQtzZoumk36aS21OG0=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-945206-1399924880-8793.jpeg.jpg)

her first album after Lemon Kittens split up. it's a very creative effort, with lovely melodies and adventurous experimentations.

That was 1983? Fuck! You got there first. Great choice of album, though. All killer, no filler.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 29, 2021, 06:47:21 PM
Van Morrison - Wonderful Remark

(https://ateenstakeonfilm.files.wordpress.com/2018/08/7d5e24c4-693b-4eb6-8d53-db42fbf6a1b4.jpeg?w=640)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E7LBUSefU4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E7LBUSefU4)

Hardly an obscure artist, I know, but this particular track is a relative obscurity. It plays over the end credits of one of my favourite films, Martin Scorsese's The King of Comedy. It appeared on the accompanying soundtrack album and a few Morrison compilations*, but never turned up on any of his studio LPs.

I will always associate it with the unsettling image of Rupert Pupkin staring directly into the camera at the end of that black comedy masterpiece. I've spoilered that in case anyone here hasn't seen the film.

* The longer, slower version on the 1998 comp, The Philosopher's Stone, is nowhere near as good.

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On 14th February 1994, when Van Morrison was awarded the BRIT Award for his outstanding contribution to British music, Beirut hostage John McCarthy testified to the importance of Wonderful Remark, which he called "a song written more than 20 years ago that was very important to us." McCarthy and Jill Morrell had written a book together in 1993, after McCarthy's release, using the lyric "some other rainbow" from Wonderful Remark for the book's title.

Clinging to some other rainbow
While we're standing, waiting in the cold
Telling us the same old story
Knowing time is growing old

Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on January 29, 2021, 06:57:38 PM
Bear George ‎– Bear Rap (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5-fh148C0k)

(https://i.imgur.com/NUUUOI2.jpg)

Released in November 1983 - did not chart

Quote
George The Bear was created by John Webster - the man behind the Sugar Puffs Honey Monster ads - on behalf of Hofmeister brewers Scottish Courage. Partly inspired by Fonzie from 'Happy Days', Runaround Cockney Mike Reid's voice, DJ Mike Read's Silk Bomber jacket, and 'Only Fools and Horses' bar-fly spiv Mickey Pearce's hat, Webster devised the adventures of a bear who, after drinking Hofmeister beer, was transformed into a cool urban nightclubber.

(https://i.imgur.com/UZqBIGM.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/sWctKLq.jpg)

The inevitable spin-off single, "Bear Rap", featurng a chorus based on "The Teddy Bear's Picnic", failed to replicate the campaign's success - possibly as the single failed to get any promotion on Radio 1 due to concerns about product placement.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 29, 2021, 06:58:42 PM
Undoubtedly the best bear ever.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 29, 2021, 07:09:17 PM
Love On The Terraces (album version) - Serious Drinking. Released on Upright in 1983.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/f7sdcU.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/hCeDPi.jpg)

This album was barely out my lug'oles when I started college in '83. They filled that oikish gap that certain other bands from the late seventies weren't providing anymore. I wanted to marry Sharon.

Serious Drinking were a Punk Rock & Ska band from Norwich, England. Formed in February 1981, split in 1985.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDxPq5of-cc&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 29, 2021, 07:11:52 PM
Bear George ‎– Bear Rap (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5-fh148C0k)

(https://i.imgur.com/NUUUOI2.jpg)

Released in November 1983 - did not chart

Good lord.
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on January 29, 2021, 07:21:13 PM
Care - My Boyish Days

(https://img.discogs.com/-r-ZPsACSs0jPZ83zhpTx6es9zo=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-4656874-1419467354-4922.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSce4Ghl_-k

After the Wild Swans split for the first time, singer Paul Simpson teamed up with guitarist/Bunnymen producer Ian Broudie to record some breezy pop songs that, alas, did naff all commercially. Which is a bit of a shame, as judging by the collecting stuff on the compilation 'Diamonds and Emeralds' (released in the 90s after the Lightning Seeds became huge), they had a real knack of writing catchy songs.

Like the Wild Swans later recordings, Care's song went over well most notably in the Philippines, though Simpson* told me himself he made very little money as most the sales were pirate recordings.

The two later teamed up again on the Wild Swans' third album, and a song they co-wrote together ('God Help Them') turned up on the first Lightning Seeds album, while Care's 'Flaming Sword' was re-made by Broudie as b-side to his 1989 US/UK hit 'Pure'.

*I've probably mentioned this before, but he is hands-down the nicest person I've ever interviewed, though Les Pattinson (who was playing bass in the Wild Swans at the time) comes a close second.
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Post by: daf on January 29, 2021, 08:04:14 PM
The Barron Knights ‎– Buffalo Bill's Last Scratch (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u_TbKfvhjc)

(https://i.imgur.com/0KU6w2W.jpg)

Released in February 1983 - peaked at #49 in the UK charts

Quote
The Barron Knights were formed in 1959 in Leighton Buzzard as the The Knights of the Round Table. The original line-up consisted of Barron Antony (Antony Michael John Osmond) on bass and vocals; Peter 'Peanut' Langford on guitar, keyboards and vocals;  Duke D'Mond (Richard Edward Palme) on vocals;  Butch Baker (Leslie John Baker) on lead guitar and vocals, and Dave Ballinger (Dave Ballinger) on drums.

(https://i.imgur.com/nFLp1bB.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/YN11ysI.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/IQ8BNVV.jpg)

In 1967, the group released the single "Lazy Fat People", a satirical song written by Pete Townshend of The Who. By 1977 CBS Records had signed the group, bringing a resurgence in popularity, with "Live in Trouble" reaching number 7 in the UK Singles Chart. Their 1978 release "A Taste of Aggro", which parodied "Rivers of Babylon", "Matchstalk Men and Matchstalk Cats and Dogs" and "The Smurf Song", became the group's biggest hit with sales of over one million, reaching number 3 in the UK chart.

(https://i.imgur.com/RVHJUoJ.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/2TXmaLb.jpg)

They achieved four other UK hit singles in the 1960s and 1970s but their only US Billboard Hot 100 charted single, "The Topical Song", was another comedic parody written by the American poet Robert Spring White, based upon Supertramp's "The Logical Song". Founding member, Barron Antony, retired on 5 October 1985, and fellow founding member Butch Baker retired in January 2007, and was replaced by Len Crawley. The Barron Knights' original lead singer, Duke D'Mond, died on 9 April 2009.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 29, 2021, 08:41:51 PM
Cocteau Twins - In Our Angelhood

https://youtu.be/tNk-mlgXRp4 (https://youtu.be/tNk-mlgXRp4)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7c/Cocteau_Twins%2C_Head_Over_Heels_%28Alternative_cover%29.jpg)

Taken from their second album, Head over Heels, recorded in Palladium Studios, Edinburgh and released on 31 October 1983 by 4AD.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 29, 2021, 09:12:04 PM
Bear George ‎– Bear Rap (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5-fh148C0k)

(https://i.imgur.com/NUUUOI2.jpg)

Released in November 1983 - did not chart

A leaf! A leaf!
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Post by: daf on January 29, 2021, 10:03:54 PM
XTC - Great Fire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_Tjf9dI1vU)

(https://i.imgur.com/O3Zni6P.jpg)

Released in April 1983 -  did not chart

Quote
Andy Partridge : "We delivered Mummer, and Jeremy Lascelles at Virgin called me up and said, "Look, we don't want to put this album out, because there are no singles on it. We want you to write a bunch more stuff, and write some singles, we'll record them and then we'll put the album out." I was really upset, and didn't know what to do.

I put the phone down after this conversation, and I was sat exactly at this desk that I'm sat at now -- a little desk in the corner of the room, where I kept a couple dozen pencils and pens in a cardboard chocolate box at the end of the table here. So, I was sat here with a blank piece of paper, thinking, "What am I going to do, I haven't got any ideas!" Looking at this Terry's of York chocolates, with these old paintings on it, thinking, "Wow, do you know, that looks like London! That's probably what London looked like before the Great Fire! Great fire ... great fire ... wow, like the great fire of passion. Whoa!" Then all of a sudden, bleagh! This song started to fall out.

(https://i.imgur.com/CuO00wQ.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/9leqmPh.jpg) 

I grabbed a guitar and sat in the kitchen, and literally the first chords I grabbed were this sort of easy A-minor, on and off, going down to a disemboweled F chord. I thought, "Oh, that's kind of unusually hook-y," and just started to sing "Great fire burning, blah blah blah blah, great fire burning..."

"I remember writing that, and not long after a song called "Gold," and sending those in to Virgin. Jeremy Lascelles said, "Yeah! Really like that 'Great Fire'!" And I thought, "Well, the man's insane, because it's no more or less commercial than all the other tracks they've got. Plus, it's going to be tricky to dance to! This is going to empty dance floors, with that 3/4 going into 4/4, in the build-up to the chorus part," you know? But no, they were insistent that it be a single.

I actually know that BBC Radio played it once. [laughs] That's not going to make it a hit, is it? They played it just once, and I was lucky enough to hear the one time. And I thought, "Wow, it's great! They're playing it already!" And then I never heard it again, and I was actually told that the BBC just played it the once. Yeah. So, thank you, Auntie, for the great leg up on the career there!"


(https://i.imgur.com/0i39p2l.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/mJGAUPS.jpg) 

"We went into Odyssey Studios in London, with Bob Sergeant producing. Dave thinks it was around about March 1983. Pete Phipps agreed to come along and drum, and did a great job. Nice, pounding, ponderous tom-toms. This song also is remarkable for us, in it being the first live strings that we ever put on an XTC song.  We gave ourselves permission to be decadent and put live strings on.  It was only two players, though!  I can't remember how many times we tracked them up, but it was probably something like four times -- made a little octet out of them. But it was just two players -- Gavin Wright, and a fellow called Nigel Warren-Green, who played cello. Gavin Wright, I seem to remember, doubled up on violin and viola for whatever pass. The two them just sat there, sort of huddled together -- it was the smallest string section you could imagine! We added phasing to some of the strings, so they sound more burning. And we had them going in a round after the bridge, before that next chorus came in. And then, when we modulated up to the last chorus, we really screwed up the strings with flanging and other things, to make them "burn."

And oh yeah, the ending -- I'd always, always wanted to do a "Pleasant Valley Sunday" ending -- you know, The Monkees' single, where they just feed everything into reverb? So we did! We made the all-consuming flame, we made it into a big plate reverb. What we do is, we just stopped the tape machine. You're feeding more and more of the track into the plate reverb, and then you just hit stop on the tape machine, and it sounds like a slam or something. But all it is the track stopping, and the whole wash of this plate reverb just continuing over. But it's a direct lift from The Monkees, because I loved that ending so much on that song. I thought, "Yeah! I'm going to steal that." So, sorry, Monkees!"
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on January 29, 2021, 10:06:44 PM
'Great Fire' is probably my favourite XTC single, which is high enough praise. If Partridge had been able to keep it together in '82, I can imagine it would have been a good sized hit, but their career was in the absolute pits at this stage, commercially speaking.

I'd add the bit where it goes into the middle eight or whatever (the "I've been in love before...") may well be one of my top 10 moments in any song ever.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 29, 2021, 10:54:41 PM
End Of The Party - The Beat.  Released on Go-Feet in 1983

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/CoxwOd.jpg)

Basically, a song explaining how I was passively coerced into losing my virginity. Ah well...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L46eyxpQaIE
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 29, 2021, 10:59:32 PM
Echo & The Bunnymen - Ocean Rain

https://youtu.be/Zzx7NPiN2nM (https://youtu.be/Zzx7NPiN2nM)

(https://img.discogs.com/8WD6b-bJA9e5dz9RfPokH4_OKZU=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-14100610-1567859956-4203.jpeg.jpg)

Later to appear on the album of the same name, this early version was recorded for a Peel session on 19 September 1983.
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Post by: daf on January 29, 2021, 11:16:33 PM
I'd add the bit where it goes into the middle eight or whatever (the "I've been in love before...") may well be one of my top 10 moments in any song ever.

Speaking of that bit, here's a bit more from that Andy interview (http://chalkhills.org/articles/XTCFans20071014.html) I cribbed :

Quote
Andy : "Now, I should add, it's "smoke curling 'round the door"... It's not "spunk" and it's not "fuck"! How does fuck curl 'round the door? It's [whispers] "smoke," said in a smoky voice -- a smoke-effect stage whisper! It's not any naughty word! What do these idiots take me for?"

And yes, I always thought he was saying 'Fuck!" (as in "Oh fuck - it's really hot!")
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on January 29, 2021, 11:33:18 PM
And yes, I always thought he was saying 'Fuck!" (as in "Oh fuck - it's really hot!")
I have to say I always heard it as "smoke", maybe Whitehaven and Swindon accents have something in common.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 29, 2021, 11:42:23 PM
Monster Love (Dub) - Bad Manners. Released on Magnet in 1983.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/bSwwKz.jpg)

Who'd have thought a boorish good time band could produce this most delightful ambient reggae instrumental B side?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2dJY7xRoYo
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on January 30, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
The Roly-Polys ‎– Lumpy Lump Lump (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDCqeszpzA4)

(https://i.imgur.com/0p1wGwS.jpg)

Released in November 1983 - did not chart

Quote
Mo Moreland first came into the public eye in the early 80s as one half of the comedy double act "The Mighty Atom & Roy" - generally the focus of "fun" was her 4ft 11 inch height and plump physique. As early as 1965 the pair had already been approached to appear on TV in the series Stars and Garters and they continued to receive great reviews for what some called one of the funniest acts in the business. It’s a mystery why Roy didn’t appear on TV's New Faces with his wife, but following her appearance on the show they had many more years of success on the cabaret and club circuit.

(https://i.imgur.com/Qnjq5mp.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/KkEj2De.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/Aq4i510.jpg)

In 1979 they were runners-up to Cannon and Ball in the Daily Mirror's National Club Acts Awards for 1978/79 in the comedy act of the year category. In 1980 they went one better and scooped the top award in the same category alongside other winners who went on to further success, such as Paul Daniels (Male Entertainer of the Year), Faith Brown (Speciality Act), Patti Boulaye (Female Vocalist) and Tony Christie (Male Vocalist). They used this as a springboard for their act and had a three year run of Summer Season shows at the Central Club in Blackpool.

In 1982 Mo joined the rotund dance troop The Roly Polys and regularly appeared on primetime TV hoofing away on BBC's The Les Dawson Show. In May 1983 the group released a spin-off single "The Roly Poly Conga", swiftly followed by "Lumpy Lump Lump".

(https://i.imgur.com/rpzFUO1.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/L3gPcT7.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/QSpGUbE.jpg)

The huge success of the Roly Polys on the Les Dawson TV show meant she was no longer able to commit as much time to their double act, and saw the end of her act with Roy. Soon after, the couple bought a hotel in Blackpool, which they ran for five years, while Moreland continued her career : "Hotels need to have personalities behind them, and running one suits the entertainer-type really well. I'll only retire when my legs give up, or when my diary tells me it's time."
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jamiefairlie on January 30, 2021, 12:45:03 AM
The Fall - Wings

https://youtu.be/aD4ojd0x-Og (https://youtu.be/aD4ojd0x-Og)


(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cklkCZwEARM/hqdefault.jpg)

A single double A side (with Kicker Conspiracy). it reached number 40 in the Festive Fifty.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Oz Oz Alice on January 30, 2021, 12:40:16 PM
SSQ - Anonymous
(https://img.discogs.com/egG0Jz7hUCwqzWAUw4p5ZQO6CcE=/fit-in/492x500/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-817051-1338432658-7301.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuA789Iz9nM

Quote
Playback is the first studio album by the American synthpop band SSQ, released in 1983 by Enigma and EMI America Records.[1] It is the only album released by the band as SSQ, though the band members later worked on lead singer Stacey Q's debut album Better Than Heaven (1986) and follow-up album, Hard Machine (1988).

This is one of those tracks from this period which somehow sounds more like a homage to the era by someone like Johnny Jewel than it does something that actually came out in '83. Very strange.

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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 30, 2021, 01:22:07 PM
The B-52's - Song for a Future Generation

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b5/63/92/b563929097f5c2b2534f8fe53a8d8015.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvCng7-za1Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvCng7-za1Y)

In which the planet's premier noo wave party band take it in turns to introduce themselves. Hi guys!

Warning: that hook may be stuck in your head for some time afterwards.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 30, 2021, 03:18:45 PM
Melt Yourself Down - James White And The Blacks Test pressing from 1983.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/Z1mAWk.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/h5CSoP.jpg)

I bet James Chance never imagined that one day he'd be rubbing shoulders with The Roly Polys.

James White and the Blacks were a New York No Wave act.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6pwT9KSCD4&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on January 30, 2021, 06:53:52 PM
Roll over Pigbag, and tell James Brown the news! . . .

The Black Watch ‎– Papa's Got A Brand New Bagpipe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtyqlGzlkyI)

(https://i.imgur.com/QM3fJUF.jpg)

Released in October 1983 - did not chart

Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 30, 2021, 07:03:29 PM
Extraordinary.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Brundle-Fly on January 30, 2021, 07:39:38 PM
Hitler - Eek-A-Mouse. Released on Greensleeves in 1983.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/3rYSlX.jpg)

Seems apt this week. "It ain't no joke."

Eek-A-Mouse AKA Ripton Joseph Hylton (born 19 November 1957) Prolific Jamaican reggae star with his unique "sing-jay" style. Has collaborated with artists as diverse as P.O.D. and Genaside II. The name is taken from the racehorse he frequently bet (and lost money) on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOO-K_FQx1o
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Phil_A on January 30, 2021, 08:19:15 PM
Marine Girls - Lazy Ways (Peel Session 16 April 1983) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On2QrBxA5YU)

(https://img.discogs.com/jb9iNFwYeMCci2T9Dnbq6RKWXAI=/fit-in/500x499/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-3567937-1434566164-3156.jpeg.jpg)

(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/british-musicians-from-left-tracey-thorn-jane-fox-and-alice-fox-of-picture-id98572521)

The Marine Girls were sisters Jane and Alice Fox and a pre-Everything But The Girl Tracey Thorn. This version of the title track for their second and final album was recorded for John Peel in 1983
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on January 30, 2021, 09:55:05 PM
Elvis Costello & The Attractions - The Greatest Thing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAizlY5yzd8)

(https://i.imgur.com/m8EmJvr.jpg)

Featured on the album "Punch The Clock" - released in August 1983

Quote
Elvis Costello : "There seems to be a deal more doubt in the slower rendition of “The Greatest Thing”, I referred to it in the notes above as “wishful”, and that would be a generous view of this version which includes more references to deprivations that I was no longer suffering and edited out of the final text along with the odd surreal observation: “There’s a world of coffee-table books and no coffee table”"

(https://i.imgur.com/4kqI5Dm.jpg)   (https://i.imgur.com/LODRVNJ.jpg)

Elvis Costello : ""The Greatest Thing" even contained a reference to my Dad's years with The Joe Loss Orchestra by way of a quote from "In The Mood" - complete with Paul Speare doubling on clarinet. "The World And His Wife" was re-written from a solemn folk song about a drunken family gathering into a bilious knees-up with the horns playing their part in the scene.)"

(https://i.imgur.com/r6ddak4.jpg)   (https://i.imgur.com/LrSrzzW.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/keA85AJ.jpg)
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on January 31, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
KITT The Amazing Car Of Tomorrow ‎– A Knightrider Christmas (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oFUxTAcKxs)

(https://i.imgur.com/e2WkAho.jpg)

Released in December 1983 - did not chart

Quote
Knight Rider is an American action crime drama television series created and produced by Glen A. Larson. The series was originally broadcast on NBC from 1982 to 1986. The show stars David Hasselhoff as Michael Knight, a high-tech, modern crime fighter assisted by KITT, an advanced, artificially intelligent, self-aware, and nearly indestructible talking car.

(https://i.imgur.com/MrTWJ05.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/RLY92N9.jpg)

Self-made billionaire Wilton Knight rescues police Detective Lieutenant Michael Arthur Long (Hasselhoff) after a near fatal shot to the face, giving him a new identity (by plastic surgery) and a new name: Michael Knight. Wilton selects Michael to be the primary field agent in the pilot program of his public justice organization, the Foundation for Law and Government (FLAG).

(https://i.imgur.com/Hvi5s7x.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/F10qtnh.jpg) 

The other half of this pilot program is the Knight Industries Two Thousand (KITT), a heavily modified, technologically advanced Pontiac Firebird Trans Am with numerous features, including an extremely durable shell and frame, controlled by a computer with talking artificial intelligence. Michael and KITT are brought in during situations where "direct action might provide the only feasible solution". KITT's evil twin is KARR, whose name is an acronym of Knight Automated Roving Robot.

(https://i.imgur.com/COfL0zf.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/fBcEcje.jpg)
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jamiefairlie on January 31, 2021, 02:10:30 AM
The Glove - Punish Me With Kisses

https://youtu.be/7-64lsdmPyY (https://youtu.be/7-64lsdmPyY)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7-64lsdmPyY/hqdefault.jpg)

Formed in 1983 by the Cure's Robert Smith and Siouxsie and the Banshees' Steven Severin. They released one studio album, Blue Sunshine. This was the second single taken from it.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 31, 2021, 01:00:16 PM
Julian Cope - Sunshine Playroom

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_FvFnRX_Gqu0/TQfaJ34EQVI/AAAAAAAAA9A/xuEs4DqOc94/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/Julian-Cope.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoQyOsFXW_U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoQyOsFXW_U)

The Arch Drude's ace debut single only reached #64.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Hooverbag Sherlocks on January 31, 2021, 01:47:42 PM
Fred Lane with Ron ‘Pate’s Debonairs - Fun In The Fundus
On the album 'From The One That Cut You', released in the US, 1983 and later on Shimmy Disc in Europe

(https://i.imgur.com/0Szg7nn.jpg)

Lane was the alter-ego of Tim Reed, American singer and visual artist, who released two albums exploring traditional jazz, country and swing, knocked off-kilter by improvisation, experimentation and ‘Dadaist free-associative lyrics’. With a title inspired by an anonymous death threat left in a Dodge truck, the album is variously described as a ‘big band car accident’ and ‘a must-have when sailing the China seas in your pyjamas’. Take your pick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8LzD2tP4uw&list=RDa8LzD2tP4uw&start_radio=1
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jamiefairlie on January 31, 2021, 06:18:56 PM
The Sisters of Mercy - Alice

https://youtu.be/wO8Wi_Wvp_c (https://youtu.be/wO8Wi_Wvp_c)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6d/The_Sisters_of_Mercy_-_Alice_cover.jpg)


Formed in Leeds in 1980 by Gary Marx and Andrew Eldritch, they released their debut single later the same year. This is their third single and it got to number 27 in the Festive Fifty.

The original band went on to release a handful of further singles and album before disintegrating amongst bitter recriminations in 1984.  Eldritch carried on under the same name, having big hits in the late 80s, whilst the others went on to form The Mission, who also had commercial success.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on January 31, 2021, 07:09:02 PM
Arlene Phillips ‎– Kiss - Come Back (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG8cP6INsME)

(https://i.imgur.com/9f7nKH9.jpg)

Featured on the album "Arlene Phillips' Keep In Shape System" - released in 1983

This was her second 'Keep Fit' concept album - the musical backing was provided by the enigmatic outfit 'Pagoda'.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jamiefairlie on January 31, 2021, 07:43:23 PM
Looks worryingly like Bonnie Langford there...shudder...
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jamiefairlie on January 31, 2021, 07:48:10 PM
New Order - Lonesome Tonight

https://youtu.be/J0d2N-yjMJE (https://youtu.be/J0d2N-yjMJE)

(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/music/2020/01/20/TELEMMGLPICT000221937499_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqQDfO_Li8BnuRdRCVfSGXuTuFIhELwdJ7eo4aJfswkVw.jpeg?imwidth=480)

Written in Spring 83 and making its live debut at The Hacienda in July, it was eventually released as the b-side to Thieves Like Us in 1984 but it will always be an 83 song to me as by then I was an avid consumer of 'as they happened' live bootlegs. It made number 12 in the Festive Fifty and was perhaps the band's last moment of greatness before the tyranny of machinery, drugs and success robbed them of their soul.
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Post by: daf on January 31, 2021, 07:50:04 PM
Looks worryingly like Bonnie Langford there...shudder...

Haha!

Here's the cover her first album (which sadly proved elusive on youtube), and the rather fruity record label :

(https://i.imgur.com/2zMncTW.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/TAKdHeN.jpg)

(looking at that label, I think assistant engineer Warne Livesey later turned up producing a few Jesus Jones records in the 90's)
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 31, 2021, 09:27:07 PM
The Chameleons - View from a Hill

https://youtu.be/jvHPNoYR-Mg (https://youtu.be/jvHPNoYR-Mg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/04/Scriptofthebridge.jpg)

The closing track from debut album Script of the Bridge.
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Post by: daf on January 31, 2021, 09:50:06 PM
XTC - Deliver Us From The Elements (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi2QTakBL5I)

(https://i.imgur.com/hVcpJ61.jpg)

Featured as the closing track (written by Colin Moulding) on side 1 of "Mummer" - released in August 1983

Quote
"Mummer was XTC's sixth album, and featured both the final contributions from original thunderstick Terry Chambers, and the debut of new drummer Pete Phipps. The album was delayed many months by Virgin Records. It was originally supposed to be released by Epic Records on 26 May 1983 in the U.S.A. but the label thought it was too acoustic and pastoral for American audiences.

The album was originally intended to be called "Fallen From The Garden" . . .

Andy Partridge : "Ken Ansel and Dave Dragon were two artists that worked for Design Clinic, and they were my interpreters if you see what I mean. They came down to The Manor while we were doing Mummer and I said, "We think this album's going to be called Fallen From the Garden." And I liked the idea of the sort of fall from grace. And we are these characters that have been shunned from this beautiful place. And they actually came back down like a week or so later with a twelve-inch mockup sleeve, and I thought it was just a bit too comical. I said, "Could we see it as if each of our heads was replaced by a fruit?" And the idea was then to scent each sleeve. To use scented cardboard. But you just impregnate the cardboard inside with lemon, apple, orange, strawberry - whatever. And then the characters on the front, the four of us, would have these fruit heads. And you'd actually get a sort of random selection of which one it smelled like. And I didn't like the painting. It looked too - I don't know. It just looked too cutsie, and a bit stupid. The garden was like a sort of an English country garden, with a manor house at one end of it. And it was all locked up and we were sat outside the iron gates, leaning on the iron gates with these fruits for heads. It just looked too cutsie, and a bit too children's-book. And so I thought, "This is going nowhere, there's too many metaphors all mixed up here.

(https://i.imgur.com/9Pihr8S.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/rU5ywKw.jpg)

"And then the Mummer idea came up while I was taking a shit one day. [laughter] You know, you grab a book to take to the lavatory. It was a fifties encyclopedia. A children's encyclopedia. And I just sat on the shitter thinking, "What are we gonna call this album? What are we gonna dress it in?" And there was a little illustration of mummers, and I thought, "Oh yeah, they're very strange." And I started to read about mummers and thought, "Oh, this is intriguing." And I took myself down to the local library, in Swindon. And there were several books printed locally about mummers and mumming. And I really liked it. I liked the idea that they were ordinary people; you know, like butcher, baker, candlestick-maker. Who did this archaic musical act once every year. And they made their own costumes. And they made them out of newspapers and rags, and so-forth. And it's all to do with the death of the old year and the resurrection - the birth of the new year. And I kind of like all that sort of shit. 

(https://i.imgur.com/MmIJE7o.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/hdWVQIM.jpg) 

"And I thought, "This is great." And then I explained it to Virgin and they said, "Oh no, so you're gonna hide?" And I said, "Yeah, it'll be us but you won't see us 'cause we'll have all these strips of paper and stuff all over our faces." They agreed to let us do the photo session. Then they saw the photographs and they said, "No, you're not doing this. And by that time the record was due to come out. And so, unfortunately, the Mummer sleeve was a last second rush job. I still wanted to call it Mummer. We were all sold on the Mummer idea. And I still liked the idea, the whole ethos of mummers and mumming. And basically, I got a call from the design clinic saying, "Look, Virgin are pestering us. They want the front cover by two days time. What is it to be?" As far as I was concerned it was one of those black and white shots of us in all the mummer gear.

(https://i.imgur.com/OjenhpF.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/VBRjJlB.jpg)

"And then I came up with the last minute idea. I was thinking newspaper, and blah-blah. And I thought, "Well, paper dolls." You know, you tear out paper dolls and have three paper dolls. And I said, "Well, can you just cut out - out of card or something - roughly, so it looks like we do in that photograph?" You know, with a pointed hat and a conical hat. And then, just..."Can you crumple up some paper and try just photographing shadows?" So that was just described down the phone. Because they had the studio time booked and, you know, we've got to produce this cover. A we've-got-to-get-it-done-tomorrow kind of thing. That was not satisfactory in my mind. It should have been the black and white photograph."
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 31, 2021, 09:56:53 PM
OMD - Telegraph

https://youtu.be/XiAMR9zWQPQ (https://youtu.be/XiAMR9zWQPQ)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3d/Telegraph_single.jpg/220px-Telegraph_single.jpg)

Second single taken from Dazzle Ships, it reached a disappointing number 42 in the UK, leading the band to take a poppier, more commercial sound for future releases, none of which will be troubling us here.
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Post by: famethrowa on January 31, 2021, 10:05:26 PM


(looking at that label, I think assistant engineer Warne Livesey later turned up producing a few Jesus Jones records in the 90's)

And got Midnight Oil into the top ten with Beds Are Burning!
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 31, 2021, 10:35:17 PM
The Glove - Punish Me With Kisses

https://youtu.be/7-64lsdmPyY (https://youtu.be/7-64lsdmPyY)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7-64lsdmPyY/hqdefault.jpg)

Formed in 1983 by the Cure's Robert Smith and Siouxsie and the Banshees' Steven Severin. They released one studio album, Blue Sunshine. This was the second single taken from it.

This is one of those situations where contractual stuff messed up the project and it's just not the same without Smith on vocals. Luckily, he saved what I reckon is the best track on the album for himself:

The Glove - Perfect Murder

(https://img.discogs.com/y7SRNdX9-TeNju-vZgzh1t_TTR4=/fit-in/600x604/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-221464-1582418710-1453.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPVlX331vxU
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 31, 2021, 10:55:13 PM
Have you heard the Smith vocal versions on the deluxe edition? There's some debate about whether these were done at the time or are later Smith vocals added to the original demos. Interesting though.

https://youtu.be/KZpEB4j5Qic (https://youtu.be/KZpEB4j5Qic)
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 31, 2021, 11:06:47 PM
Have you heard the Smith vocal versions on the deluxe edition? There's some debate about whether these were done at the time or are later Smith vocals added to the original demos. Interesting though.

https://youtu.be/KZpEB4j5Qic (https://youtu.be/KZpEB4j5Qic)

I have, yes. I thought they were guide vocals for Jeanette Landray to work from but I don't know if that's true. It's frustrating that it's only the demos, though.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on January 31, 2021, 11:14:28 PM
Bourbonese Qualk - God with Us

(https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a0145156217_10.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCDfDptP1MM

From their debut album Laughing Afternoon. Bourbonese Qualk were a post punk / industrial band comprising Andy Wilson, Miles Miles, Owen Rossiter and Simon Crab.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 31, 2021, 11:14:52 PM
Yeah, those vocals on the finished backing tracks would be better. Like a lost Cure album between Pornography and The Top.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on January 31, 2021, 11:26:43 PM
The The - This Is The Day

https://youtu.be/7ZYgKCbFbWY (https://youtu.be/7ZYgKCbFbWY)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fd/The_The_This_Is_The_Day.jpg)

Their fifth single, it only reached number 71 in the UK charts.
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Post by: daf on February 01, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
Hooray And The Henrys ‎– All Stuck Up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soSdcYZ9Igg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wMU0jFA.jpg)

Released in December 1983 - reached #100 in the UK charts

Quote from: 45cat / Youtube
telegramsam : "This ghastly offering is an attempt at a medley record with vocals sort of sung/spoken by an upper class twit. The A side medley tracks are as follows: All Shook Up/ The Clapping Song/ Heartbreaker/ Eleanor Rigby/ I'm The Leader Of The Gang/ Rivers Of Babylon/ Whole Lotta Love/ Rabbit / Y Viva Espana / Pass The Dutchie / We Don't Talk Anymore and Bohemian Rhapsody.
The label fully credits all of these - but what saved me from having to type all these out is that the track is actually called : All Stuck Up and there are original lyrics credited. The disc came with a paper insert showing a picture of what all upper class British men look like."

(https://i.imgur.com/3rQhvJJ.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/wKlTS2P.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/FCobvKV.jpg) 

23Daves : "Seems to be The Firm under a pseudonym. One of their better efforts, if you ask me!"

Robin Merrill : "Just shared this with a friend who wanted to know what I was doing in the 80s. Well this was one of the mad things I did. I was the "Hooray" of Hooray and the Henrys! We actually had a lot of fun making it.  It was all done with a lot of humour and a lot of Dutch courage at the local pub beforehand!"
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 01, 2021, 02:18:25 AM
The Wake - Uniform

https://youtu.be/BKidDcH836E (https://youtu.be/BKidDcH836E)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0GFGCCE_VtM/hqdefault.jpg)

Taken from their July 83 Peel session and never released in any other form.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 01, 2021, 05:06:24 PM
There's A Time - The Prisoners Released on Noise Pollution in 1983.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/kEfi2c.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/VKftkl.jpg)

Another great live act from my teenage years.

The Prisoners were a British 1960s garage/mod-inspired band formed in 1982 in Chatham, Kent, England. Signed to Stiff Records, but later forced to disband in 1986 following the label's bankruptcy.  Line-up was Graham Day (guitar, vocals), James Taylor (hammond organ), Alan Crockford (bass), and Johnny Symons (drums).
Following the band's demise, James Taylor and Alan Crockford went on to form The James Taylor Quartet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmidcEnI6f4&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 01, 2021, 05:55:53 PM
The Cabinet - Das Kabinette
(https://img.discogs.com/ex5PDkCD8e1_9LfqttJkPgqHYf4=/fit-in/528x519/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-505606-1124876225.jpg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_DVOooSojo

Quote
Our second visit to the studio (Blackpool Sunset Sound Studios) in 1983 produced The Cabinet and the remixed Fudge It (a college term meaning to cheat). We all have a fascination for ‘The Cabinet of Doctor Caligari’ with its twisted tale of madness and unforgettable imagery and this was the theme we borrowed for our demo. Dave created the sleeve artwork and Craig organised the pressing of 500 vinyl singles on our own Klosette Records label. Over many months, we touted The Cabinet to club and radio DJs and sent copies to largely unreceptive A&R departments, yet found a friend in BBC Radio 1’s Janice Long who aired it on several occasions.

Another one-shot band I first heard on one of the Minimal Wave label's compilations.
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Post by: Phil_A on February 01, 2021, 06:04:41 PM
NAME - Do We All Need Love? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAF9J66osvo)

(https://img.discogs.com/A76lY_A4p0IZ4wPodyEGFpuXwXU=/fit-in/539x519/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1379070-1324393678.jpeg.jpg)

Another oddball synth banger from Soft Selection 84. This time it's a duo who've made themselves ungooglable, NAME, with their proto-incel anthem. Listen out for the dramatic intro where we get to hear our guy's terrible pick-up technique totally failing to help him score with a lady.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 01, 2021, 07:19:24 PM
Jeanette - In The Morning
(https://img.discogs.com/a3ZZm_waZBgrMG-b-FJSFsfyU28=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-2552860-1304945542.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ccfMGPVms

Another that'd be a smash in a just world, this debut single from Jeanette is a very catchy electro-pop song with some nice vaguely exotic sounding percussion. She'd go on to make two albums and appear on This Mortal Coil's Filigree and Shadow singing a Van Morrison cover.
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Post by: daf on February 01, 2021, 07:32:36 PM
Jonathan King ‎– I'll Slap Your Face (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTyF9OGXjDU)

(https://i.imgur.com/rtAq3Cq.jpg)

Released in April 1983 -  did not chart

Quote
Having released several novelty singles in the '60s and '70s on his own UK Records label, in 1979, Jonathan King decided to leave the music industry. The UK Records New York office on 57th Street was turned into an apartment, and King set about building a new career in writing and broadcasting. He was given a weekly five-minute slot on BBC Radio 1 called "A King in New York", a "Postcard from America" slot in Radio 4, and he reported for Radio 1 on the 1980 presidential election.

Throughout 1980 and 1981 King presented a radio talk show on New York's WMCA from 10–12 weekday mornings, and regularly reported from the United States on Top of the Pops. He devised and hosted a spinoff series, Entertainment USA. Essentially an expanded version of his five minute segments on Top of the Pops, it presented entertainment news, clips, interviews and music from the United States to a British audience.

(https://i.imgur.com/6tjJXtN.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/jcVXE1t.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/Rzg75mT.jpg)

In 1985 he devised a similar UK based show 'No Limits'. Each week the show was set in a different town or location, and, as well as pop videos, had its own specially made videos about that location and some things about which the place was famous.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 01, 2021, 08:43:52 PM
The Fall - The Man Whose Head Expanded

https://youtu.be/mRNZgSd6XGE (https://youtu.be/mRNZgSd6XGE)

(https://img.discogs.com/boNEtk9CUoY7WPr9v-72sdorHCc=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-428001-1485975003-2914.jpeg.jpg)

Their ninth single, it made number 21 in the Festive Fifty.
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Post by: Phil_A on February 01, 2021, 09:49:40 PM
Felt - Penelope Tree/A Preacher In New England/Now Summer's Spread It's Wings Again (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAghpFtguEk)

(https://assets.fontsinuse.com/static/use-media-items/115/114257/upto-700xauto/5edac3b9/m94733543782_1.jpeg)

Non album single released in 1983 between Felt's first two LPs. The A-Side is a lovely bit of jangle that was later "homaged" by Johnny Marr on his single European Me[1]. On the flipside there's two sweet Maurice Deebank solo instrumentals that were later combined into a single track with a heavily-reverbed mix for Felt's second LP "The Splendour Of Fear" released in 1984, but the earlier, cleaner version is much more poignant.
 1. Seriously, Lawrence should've sued - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWWq5u5XxxY
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 01, 2021, 09:56:23 PM
Penelope Tree is a great song.
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Post by: daf on February 01, 2021, 10:00:44 PM
Elvis Costello - The Element Within Her (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilKum_0cfK4)

(https://i.imgur.com/rIz1w8a.jpg)

Featured on the album "Punch The Clock" - released in August 1983

Quote
Elvis Costello : "Now to be honest I haven't always been kind about this album. I find it hard to ignore the benefit of hindsight. However I shall try to explain how we fared among the passionless fads of that charmless time: "The Early 80's". Being in a fairly feckless frame of mind I had dashed off a couple bright pop tunes that didn't have much else to them."

(https://i.imgur.com/26HRvi4.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/d5BapOQ.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/semf7RF.jpg)

"The chorus of "Element Within Her" consisted entirely of the immortal words: "la-la-la, la-la-la, la-la-la" (although I liked the silly Liverpudlian-slang joke in the last verse: "He said "Are you cold?" She said "No but you are La...la-la-la...etc.)

(https://i.imgur.com/aZMMatx.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/cfev2FM.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/dm0iXWa.jpg)

"Everyday I Write The Book" was written in a spare ten minutes on tour as a spoof of a Mersey-beat tune. In rehearsal Clive guided us towards an arrangement that was unlike anything we had ever recorded. Although we borrowed a few touches from the r'n'b styles of the day I have witnessed, firsthand, the record's ability to clear a nightclub dance floor in seconds. Despite this it remains one of our very few entirely cheerful recordings and was even a minor hit on both sides of the Atlantic - reaching No. 28 in the U.K. and No.32 in the U.S. charts - then our best placing for a single."

As you might guess, I really love this album - the second I ever bought (after The Police Synchronicity) - and it's still my favourite Costello album (and bonus points for anyone who's spotted the tenuous links between my XTC and Costello 1983 song choices!)
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 01, 2021, 10:09:50 PM
Xmal Deutschland - Incubus Succubus II

https://youtu.be/pHfXs4fzHr8 (https://youtu.be/pHfXs4fzHr8)

(https://img.discogs.com/_f-pg-hghW9cU6zcvfaCTaAIvEY=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-311404-1414265411-2490.jpeg.jpg)

Xmal Deutschland was formed in 1980 by Anja Huwe (vocals), Manuela Rickers (guitar), Fiona Sangster (keyboards), Rita Simonsen (bass guitar) and Caro May (drums) in Hamburg, Germany. Their first single, "Schwarze Welt", was released a year later.

This is their fourth single and it reached number 13 in the Festive Fifty.
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Post by: jobotic on February 01, 2021, 11:03:56 PM
The The - This Is The Day

https://youtu.be/7ZYgKCbFbWY (https://youtu.be/7ZYgKCbFbWY)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fd/The_The_This_Is_The_Day.jpg)

Their fifth single, it only reached number 71 in the UK charts.

I really like that. When I was an indie kid a few years later I think I must have had a friend who thought The The were shit so I've always assumed that was true. Did they go very shit or something? I imagined them to be more U2ey.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 01, 2021, 11:05:23 PM
Yeah they did go a bit shit. This is the only era i like to be honest.
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on February 01, 2021, 11:09:03 PM
I really like that. When I was an indie kid a few years later I think I must have had a friend who thought The The were shit so I've always assumed that was true. Did they go very shit or something? I imagined them to be more U2ey.
I don't know about "U2ey", but their albums in 1989 and 1993 had a line up featuring Johnny Marr, which obviously gave them a more guitar-orientated sound than you hear on 'Soul Mining' and 'Infected'.

Personally, I found the quality fairly high across all four of those LPs, with enough differences from one to the next to keep things interesting, though 'Infected' is the one I most consistently go back to. 
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Post by: jobotic on February 01, 2021, 11:12:10 PM
Cheers, I'll go and investigate.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 01, 2021, 11:37:28 PM
I don't know about "U2ey", but their albums in 1989 and 1993 had a line up featuring Johnny Marr, which obviously gave them a more guitar-orientated sound than you hear on 'Soul Mining' and 'Infected'.

Personally, I found the quality fairly high across all four of those LPs, with enough differences from one to the next to keep things interesting, though 'Infected' is the one I most consistently go back to.

This.

But Dusk (1993) is worth checking out too.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 01, 2021, 11:49:36 PM
New York, New York - Nina Hagen Released on Columbia in 1983.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/mX1Ul1.jpg)

Die 'coole' Toyah?

Catharina "Nina" Hagen (born 11 March 1955) is a German singer, songwriter, and actress. She is known for her theatrical vocals and rose to prominence during the punk and new wave movements in the late 1970s and early 1980s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjY501O8hGU
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Post by: daf on February 02, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
Michael Barrymore ‎– He's A Wally  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTOmbDVStXY)

(https://i.imgur.com/KW3csxk.jpg)

Released as the B-side to Kenny The Kangaroo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKk9ICaeWCM)

Quote
Michael Ciaran Parker was born in Bermondsey, and spent his early career working as a Redcoat at Butlins holiday camps and then in the West End theatre shows of London, where he met dancer and lifelong friend Cheryl St Claire in 1974. They married in 1976, and with Cheryl as manager, he first won a 1975 edition of New Faces, became the warm-up man for Larry Grayson on the Generation Game and also for Little and Large theatre shows. In the early days, Barrymore used to do impressions of John Cleese and Norman Wisdom, among others. From there Barrymore rose to fame via appearances on Blankety Blank and Who Do You Do?. He also appeared in Russ Abbott's Madhouse as various characters between 1981 and 1982, and bagged his own sketch show entitled The Michael Barrymore Show in 1983.

(https://i.imgur.com/Z6cp8lr.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/xJBtBIj.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/YI4ISy6.jpg)

He walked out of his contract with LWT, who produced The Michael Barrymore Show, after only one series; he then landed the presenter's role on the BBC gameshow, Get Set Go!. He appeared in a number of Royal Variety Performance shows, his first being in 1983. He became the host of ITV gameshow Strike It Lucky in 1986 and it grew in popularity over the years and this was watched by 18 million viewers at its peak.

(https://i.imgur.com/B9GbqGy.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/rBukOzj.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/5EPp3we.jpg)

He had his own show between 1988 and 1989, produced for the BBC entitled Michael Barrymore's Saturday Night Out; it was set in Jersey and the theme tune, "Doin' the Crab" had been released as a single in 1987. Other singles included 'Didj'a Ever' in 1986, and 'Too Much For One Heart' in 1995.

Norman Collier's mic seems to be placed in a rather unfortunate position on that poster - Here comes Jism!
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 02, 2021, 01:15:20 AM
Zombie Creeping Flesh - Peter And The Test Tube Babies.  Released on Trapper in 1983.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/0YB3H5.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/7BUlyf.jpg)

Sussex Oi's worst 'orrible 'erberts satirical comment on the early eighties video nasty witchfinder purge.

Peter and the Test Tube Babies are an English punk rock band, formed in the small town of Peacehaven, England in 1978, by Derek "Strangefish" Greening and Peter Bywaters. Due to their humorous tongue-in-cheek lyrics, they have been considered part of the Punk Pathetique subgenre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRvblNS2MIg
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 02, 2021, 01:19:04 AM
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 02, 2021, 04:07:18 AM
Mahogany Wood - The Residents & Renaldo and the Loaf . Released on Ralph in 1983.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/pkxP3l.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/Ox7aMc.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/xWtsap.jpg)

Best of both.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfEjIbAs-2c
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Post by: Phil_A on February 02, 2021, 08:31:52 PM
Piper - Night Shore (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aljgC049VLQ)


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(https://data.whicdn.com/images/328420055/original.gif)
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The other end of the J-Pop spectrum to the Soft label's output, here's some ultra-slick City Pop for cruising the neon-lit streets in your Outrun Ferrari to.

Quote from: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/the-official-city-pop-thread-banderas.652830/
In the early 1980s, with the spread of car stereos, the term City Pop (シティーポップ shytī Poppu) came to describe a type of popular music that had a big city theme.[76] Tokyo in particular inspired many songs of this form. During this time, music fans and artists in Japan were influenced by album-oriented rock(especially Adult contemporary) and crossover (especially Jazz fusion).[76][77]Although City Pop was affected by New Music, the rock band Happy End was considered one of its originators.[78]

Akira Terao and Anri became famous during this period. Akira Terao's 1981 album Reflections was the best-selling album of the 1980s in Japan, selling about 1.65 million copies.[79][80]

Tatsuro Yamashyta and his wife Mariya Takeuchi became popular in this period. Yamashyta's 1983 song "Christmas Eve" reached number one on the Oricon weekly single charts on December 25, 1989.[81] While Takeuchi's career had total sales estimated to have been at more than 16 million units by 2009.[82] In 1989, Ryuichi Sakamoto won the Best Album of Original Instrumental Background Score Written for a Motion Picture or Television for his contribution to the movie The Last Emperor.[83][84]

The popularity of City Pop declined when the Japanese asset price bubble burst in 1990. Its musical characteristics (except its "cultural background") were inherited by Shibuya-kei musicians such as Pizzicato Five and Flipper's Guitar.[76]
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on February 02, 2021, 09:19:14 PM
Piper - Night Shore (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aljgC049VLQ)

That was pretty groovy, thanks.
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Post by: Hooverbag Sherlocks on February 02, 2021, 11:22:28 PM
Ministry - Work For Love
Single released in the UK on the Arista label, 1983. Did not chart.

(https://i.imgur.com/Ckj3K3b.jpg)

So, what’s the long-term dream, Al?
Well, one day, obviously, we want to embrace menace, machinery, metal, holy hot-rod mayhem....
Sure.
For now, though, we’re happy with an upbeat sound that’s danceable but also suitable for commercial radio.
Terrific. Tell us who you’re going to be tonight.
Tonight, Matthew, we’re going to be Wham!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aab9Th7f2Ko
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 02, 2021, 11:34:24 PM
ok, time to call an end to 1983, we'll start 1984 later on Wednesday, get your late entries in now.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 02, 2021, 11:39:18 PM
Rough - Herbie Hancock Released on Columbia in 1983.

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The Rockit cousin?

Herbert Jeffrey Hancock (born April 12, 1940) is an American pianist, keyboardist, bandleader, composer, and actor. Hancock started his career with Donald Byrd. He shortly thereafter joined the Miles Davis Quintet, where he helped to redefine the role of a jazz rhythm section and was one of the primary architects of the post-bop sound. In the 1970s, Hancock experimented with jazz fusion, funk, and electro styles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mcXzeeFNzE&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 02, 2021, 11:40:08 PM
ok, time to call an end to 1982, we'll start 1983 later on Wednesday, get your late entries in now.

1984, surely?

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Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jamiefairlie on February 02, 2021, 11:44:35 PM
Yes, please forgive my inexactitude. I shall change the original post forthwith.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 02, 2021, 11:47:14 PM
Yes, please forgive my inexactitude. I shall change the original post forthwith.

It was a confusing year
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 02, 2021, 11:56:24 PM
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 03, 2021, 12:18:20 AM
Planet Patrol-Cheap Thrills (Instrumental)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvlS2RLE5Qo
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.OHkpITNE0gd8bOE8BXClsQAAAA?pid=Api&rs=1)
John Robie, (who I had on earlier as Quadrant Six) formed this band with Arthur Baker and a band of 5 RnB singers lead by Herbert J. Jackson to form an electro-soul outfit. I've picked the instrumental B-side of this tune mostly because the A-side lacks the ace piano intro, and for the resemblence of this tune to the long 12" instrumental bits that New Order would go on to make with and without Baker and Robie.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 03, 2021, 12:23:31 AM
God, you're not wrong about the (all bad) influence on New Order. I blame that arse Robie for a lot, scummy human being too by all accounts, even by Hooky's standards, which says a lot.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 03, 2021, 12:36:44 AM
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

ADAM CURTIS VOICE: "Everyone thought that 1984 would follow 1983, when in reality it was followed by an obscure quantum physicist from Seattle."
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 03, 2021, 12:37:27 AM
You don't even rate the later stuff without Baker/Robie, but in that style? (It was The Perfect Kiss I was mostly thinking of sounding like the above tune).
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jamiefairlie on February 03, 2021, 12:38:21 AM
"To explain why it didn't, we have to go back to Vienna in 1919.....'
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jamiefairlie on February 03, 2021, 12:46:16 AM
You don't even rate the later stuff without Baker/Robie, but in that style? (It was The Perfect Kiss I was mostly thinking of sounding like the above tune).

No, I hate it to be honest. Lowlife just sounds so mechanical and 'clattery' to my ears and then to get into utter rubbish like Shellshock which is just cocaine music (according to Steve anyway, that's the explanation).

The Perfect Kiss is a good test case actually, there's some wonderful bits, the ending driven by Hooky's bass is really great, but the rest is too mechanical for my tastes.
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 03, 2021, 12:48:59 AM
"To explain why it didn't, we have to go back to Vienna in 1919.....'
If we went back further enough, and hit a time-lock,  we would meet Mark, who has been stuck in the 1860's for 125 years.
In the meantime here is the other side of the "Wings" single we've already had. The two side of this single represent two of the three threads of Mark's vision I like, the dreamy fantasy stuff and the social satire. The third thread to me is language run amok, language no longer tethered to meaning.

The Fall- Kicker Conspiracy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=JjyQkt04Urc&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 03, 2021, 12:54:11 AM
One of the many things I love about this epic thread is the thought of eventually settling down with the accompanying playlist. I'm not particularly keen on the post-punk stuff, it's not my bag really, but that's okay: we can't like everything, but I listen to all the songs that you lot recommend. I've discovered some amazing pieces of music along the way.
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Post by: jobotic on February 03, 2021, 12:57:15 AM
Shellshock is pretty terrible but Lowlife may be my favourite New Order album - talking of which, I wonder if they may have heard this song at all.

I like walking in the park you bad girl liar.

Sphinx - Bad Girl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuc-RGyuerQ



Fake edit - nah, it's Power Corruption and Lies.

Subculture album version might be my favourite NO song though - and just to make the link more obvious here's the instrumental of Bad Girl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pnAI1Um6MA
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 03, 2021, 01:07:47 AM
 Central Office of Information for Department of the Environment- Close to The Edge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LknX42rx1c
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.CCOBXgSo-HFkY07BJ4hpLwHaFj?w=212&h=180&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7[img])[/img]
"Johnny was a fool, he didn't act cool...."  An interesting example of how quickly rap penetrated public consciousness that a
government public information film about road safety would be made featuring a cover of Grandmaster Flash's The Message.
The rapping is in a bit of a weird pseudo-American accent, but a) the graphics still look brilliant and b) I bet this was more than
a few children's first experience of hip-hop.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 03, 2021, 01:10:37 AM

Subculture album version might be my favourite NO song though - and just to make the link more obvious here's the instrumental of Bad Girl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pnAI1Um6MA

Blimey, what a rip-off!
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 03, 2021, 01:43:17 AM
Hashim-Al-Naafyish (The Soul)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykK0uEjSsqY

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A bit of electro with a bit of space in it, and maybe a bit of soul too, accompanied by an excellent UK Tv breakdancing-on-the-london-underground video.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 03, 2021, 01:56:08 AM
One of the many things I love about this epic thread is the thought of eventually settling down with the accompanying playlist. I'm not particularly keen on the post-punk stuff, it's not my bag really, but that's okay: we can't like everything, but I listen to all the songs that you lot recommend. I've discovered some amazing pieces of music along the way.

Once we get up to the present day, we should then go back to 1962 and move backwards through swing, ragtime, wax cylinder recordings of sea shanties etc, our short term goal being Thomas Edison's recording of "Mary Had a Little Lamb" in 1877, our medium term goal being the first notated melody, the Seikilos Epitaph from approx. 200 BC, and from there move onto archaeological reconstructions of neolithic music, dinosaur mating calls etc.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 03, 2021, 02:20:36 AM
Blimey, what a rip-off!

Bloody hell, that's absurd how close it is. Sumner has form with this.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 03, 2021, 04:08:52 AM
Another source of Sumner 'inspiration'

https://youtu.be/oUOBJ7vEAQ4 (https://youtu.be/oUOBJ7vEAQ4)
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 03, 2021, 04:11:40 AM
Even in JD days he was at it....(starts at 6:34)....

https://youtu.be/S_A6y58afFY (https://youtu.be/S_A6y58afFY)
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Post by: jobotic on February 03, 2021, 09:20:11 AM
Sumner would have been listening to Italo-disco too I would have thought. It can't be a coincidence.

I don't really care though, they're both top tunes!
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 03, 2021, 01:57:54 PM
The Fraggles - Fraggle Rock Theme

(https://s2982.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/fraggles.jpg.optimal.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CngM1RISRWA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CngM1RISRWA)

Check out that killer bassline.

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Fraggle Rock is a children's puppet television series about interconnected societies of Muppet creatures, created by Jim Henson. He described it as "a high-energy, raucous musical romp. It's a lot of silliness. It's wonderful." The programme proved accessible to audiences of all ages, and used the fantasy creatures as an allegory to deal with serious issues such as prejudice, spirituality, personal identity, the environment, and social conflict.

Following the success of the Fraggle Rock: Rock On! shorts which aired on Apple TV+ in April 2020, a reboot of Fraggle Rock was ordered by the streaming service. Production on the new series of full-length episodes commenced in January 2021.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 03, 2021, 03:06:09 PM
Hand On My Heart - Shriekback.  Released on Arista in 1984.

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(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/jHEszu.jpg)

Former XTC keyboard player's band. Andy Partridge commented that the band in the late seventies were pulling in two directions. "There were two balding, egotistical control freaks called Andrew(s) and one of us had to go. So I stayed and Bazza jumped ship. He was always very unrhythmical in XTC so it was a real surprise to finally hear his new music".

Shriekback are an English post-punk band from Kentish Town, London, founded in 1981 by Dave Allen with Barry Andrews and Carl Marsh. In 1984 Martyn Barker joined the band as Drummer and Percussionist after having toured with them and played on various sessions before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJXeRATcw0Q&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 03, 2021, 06:09:07 PM
Danny Boy and the Serious Party Gods-Castro Boy
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TjlKYav8B-c

NSFW audio!

Hi-NRG spoof of Frank Zappa's Valley Girl, on the theme of San Fransico's gay scene, including some quite startling excesses. Don't know about anything about the musicians, but discogs seems to have it that John Hedges, who's credited as executive producer, did some stuff with Sylvester and Patrick Cowley, and this tune is kind of it that vein.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Phil_A on February 03, 2021, 08:31:25 PM
Scott Walker - Rawhide (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4t4gtrrngQ)

(https://img.discogs.com/RlUh7HxWLdLyrcmdtzZ5E6tQ7ms=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-640783-1336559014-7376.jpeg.jpg)

Scott Walker went all sophisto-pop for what was presumably intended to be his solo comeback album, 1984's Climate Of Hunter, which features guest appearances from such eighties pop titans such as Billy Ocean and Mark Knopfler. But in typical perverse Walker fashion it's full of unsettling string arrangements and cryptic lyrical allusions, and failed to make much of an impression on the charts. It was rumoured to be one of the worst-selling LPs in Virgin's catalogue, and Scott all but vanished for over a decade until the release of Tilt in 1995
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 03, 2021, 08:39:01 PM
Coil - Solar Lodge released on Force and Form, 1984
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfVkGE6n03g

Growing tired of Genesis P-Orridge's dictatorial nature and transformation of TOPY from a parody of a cult into actual cult like behaviours, Jhonn Balance and Peter Christopherson left Psychic TV for Christopherson to start collaborating with Jhonn. Somewhere along the way they also picked up Stephen Thrower who was in Coil up til Love's Secret Domain and who plays clarinet and percussion on this release. It's only really on this release and the following Horse Rotorvator that Coil would sound like any other industrial act: for me Jhonn's almost Lydon-esque vocals and noise guitar steals the show here. For all the talk of black suns its worth pointing out that Coil never really played the dabbling with dodgy imagery game to the same extent a lot of friends and collaborators like Boyd "Not a Nazi but dress like one, talk like one and work with them" Rice or Jim Thirlwell who co-produced this record but basically seems alright. There will, I daresay, be a lot more Coil-posting in this thread.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 03, 2021, 09:00:36 PM
Once we get up to the present day, we should then go back to 1962 and move backwards through swing, ragtime, wax cylinder recordings of sea shanties etc, our short term goal being Thomas Edison's recording of "Mary Had a Little Lamb" in 1877, our medium term goal being the first notated melody, the Seikilos Epitaph from approx. 200 BC, and from there move onto archaeological reconstructions of neolithic music, dinosaur mating calls etc.

And B.A. Cunterson will still be involved somehow, his massive chinny face hewn into the ancient rock of time itself.

Scott Walker - Rawhide (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4t4gtrrngQ)

(https://img.discogs.com/RlUh7HxWLdLyrcmdtzZ5E6tQ7ms=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-640783-1336559014-7376.jpeg.jpg)

I've always thought that, weirdly, Scott looks exactly like David Dixon, the actor who played Ford Prefect on TV, on the cover of that album.

(https://www.comedy.co.uk/images/library/comedies/900x450/h/h2g2_tv.jpg)
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 03, 2021, 09:18:45 PM
Kath Bloom & Loren Mazzacane Connors - Come Here

(https://img.discogs.com/vKD8SdDCU6uDXT8ob-xksWrGC30=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/A-263723-1259656217.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDhmnoBVYlQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDhmnoBVYlQ)

One of the most beautiful songs I have ever heard. Sob.

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Kath Bloom is an American folk singer-songwriter. Bloom started to record music with avant-garde guitarist Loren Mazzacane Connors in 1976. They recorded multiple albums of fragile, simple folk and blues melodies, the majority of which were written by Bloom. Their collaboration ended in 1984 with the release of their final album Moonlight, of which only 300 copies were pressed.

Bloom stopped recording new material soon after her collaboration with Connors ended, and a period of financial hardship followed. A single mother, she focused on raising her children, rarely playing shows outside of New Haven.

Film director Richard Linklater discovered Bloom's music sometime in the early 1990s and featured her song Come Here in his 1995 film Before Sunrise. Encouraged by Linklater's interest in her music, Bloom started writing new songs and released her first album in over 10 years, titled Come Here: The Florida Years, in 1999.

Presently Bloom trains donkeys and plays with her band Love at Work, offering musical programmes for children and adults, as well as playing solo shows in the Northeastern U.S. Bloom has been working with children since 1989.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 03, 2021, 10:28:30 PM
In God We Trust (In Cars You Rust?) - Alien Sex Fiend.  Released on Anagram in 1984.

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(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/G3R2W9.jpg)

Marilyn Manson? Schmarilyn Schmanson!

Alien Sex Fiend were formed by Nik Wade (Nik Fiend), Christine Wade (Mrs. Fiend), David James (Yaxi Highrizer) and Johnny Freshwater (Johnny Ha-Ha) in late 1982 at the Batcave club in London (where Nik worked).[2] The band became known in the gothic scene for its dark, electronic industrial-leaning sound, heavy samples, loops, dub remixes[3] and manic vocals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZAmXmwSKnU&list=RDqZAmXmwSKnU&start_radio=1

ADDED BONUS. ASF interview 2012. Delightfully mundane. 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPXXBUY89vE
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 03, 2021, 11:08:10 PM
Circuit 7 - Video Boys
(https://img.discogs.com/jKFlE7bFQOMlzxauBrdsUrWLvhQ=/fit-in/450x453/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1090808-1224016382.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_hV-uqNZ5c

"Video Boys? It's only the single OMD should've made"
Arpeggiated bass synths - check
Terse Berlin Bowie worshipping vocals - check
Motorik - Check
Scratchy Andy Gill rhythm playing - check
A sudden outbreak of saxophone - check

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Minimal Wave presents a full length album by cult UK duo Circuit 7, founded by Martyn Good and Andy Partington. They released 2 singles, “Modern Story” and the amazing “Video Boys” and a few tracks on the legendary “Offering of Isca” compilation between 1983 and 1985.

As with a lot of tracks by one shot artists I've posted I firmly believe this should've been a huge hit. In some ideal parallel world it is.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 03, 2021, 11:24:58 PM
The inevitable Oz Oz Alice Italo double-post

Valerie Dore - The Night
(https://img.discogs.com/QXzrRh37zis17TrZpoMGfoNpPkU=/fit-in/600x584/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1990676-1257143243.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80ssUKt76-c

There was earlier discussion of the Italo influence on New Order, and it may've been a two way stream of influence but when I think of the connections between that group and Italo this record always pops into my head: maybe it's because as well as any sonic similarities, Barney's lyrics also often sound like English was his second language and I can hear him in my head singing "There's something going on right now" in this same portentous manner despite the fact it means nothing.

Valerie Dore is the stage name of Monica Stucchi but in the kind of Mulholland Drive weirdness I've come to expect from the world of Italo disco it was originally a stage name for Dora Carofiglio who alternated between main vocals and back up on these records while Monica fronted the act so to speak and is the person you see in the above video. This is one of my favourite Italo records in all its ethereal, surreal beauty.

International Music System - Dancing Therapy
(https://img.discogs.com/fPaWUccUgBzVdoixBwdVB_i1VHU=/fit-in/600x546/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-569259-1604704391-1200.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI6TkHP0SHw

Speaking again of New Order, there's no way on earth that Bizarre Love Triangle isn't based on this. Again, I can hear Barney doing his unique "Kermit the frog growl" singing the chorus to this in my mind's ear. International Music System were Rebecca McLain on vocals alongside George Stefani and Paul Limoli who were also responsible for Spacer Woman as posted by me earlier.



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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 03, 2021, 11:49:12 PM
The Cheepskates - Run Better Run

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_nVrf9YP2-s4/Rs17k6Wk-WI/AAAAAAAAASE/tVF84ZBgU7o/s400/cheepskatesgw%5B1%5D.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xte_h6oyDEg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xte_h6oyDEg)

If this Farfisa-fingered bubblegum earworm had been released by a bunch of garage-dwelling Illinois teenagers in 1966, it could've been a fluke chart smash. But it wasn't. Still, hats off to these dudes for capturing that pure, pimpled, snotty Nuggets essence. A loving pastiche.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 04, 2021, 12:17:28 AM
Coil - Solar Lodge released on Force and Form, 1984
(https://img.discogs.com/FDQq332xO_Q24pPGxGcxkz9aisg=/fit-in/400x400/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-99941-1112469450.jpg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfVkGE6n03g

 There will, I daresay, be a lot more Coil-posting in this thread.

Got there before me, Oz! Coil. So tragic they were both taken so young, but perversely fitting though. Dance with the Devil and all that....
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Post by: Better Midlands on February 04, 2021, 12:24:10 AM
The Earons - Land Of Hunger (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV6ZG5owTbo&t=86)

(https://img.discogs.com/iN4Fl0j999zxJ-FVp9GeoexRjY4=/fit-in/600x607/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-260802-1306087730.jpeg.jpg)

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The Earons are a self-described "astro-funk" band from Tampa Bay, Florida. They were inspired by the cosmic mythology of Sun Ra with a bit of Anthony Braxton's mathematica.

Group members use the following stage names: .28 (a.k.a. Henry Pizzicarola, vocals), .22 (Percival Prince, guitar), .33 (Kevin Nance, keyboards), .69 (Melvin Lee, bass) and .18 (Lonnie Ferguson, drums). In 1984 they topped the Hot Dance Music/Club Play chart with "Land of Hunger" produced by Steven Stanley (Tom Tom Club) on Island Records, which also reached 36 on the Billboard R&B Chart. To date, they have only released one album, "Hear on Earth", on LP and cassette (it has never been released on CD).

The concept of the band came from Zecharia Sitchin's book The Twelfth Planet and his writing about the Sumer civilisation.

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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 04, 2021, 12:30:57 AM
Mi Believe/ Summer Holiday -Yellowman. Released on Greensleeves in 1984.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/UZrKAR.jpg)

Another reggae hero of teenage me.

Yellowman has an incredible history in Reggae music. His upbringing at the Maxfield Home orphanage in Kingston and being albino in Jamaica were two obstacles he overcame and went on to be (at one time) the biggest reggae artist since Bob Marley. Yellowman is a past student of the famed Alpha Boys School in Kingston.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_c6qmxnt1U
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 04, 2021, 12:38:06 AM
The Earons - Land Of Hunger (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV6ZG5owTbo&t=86)

(https://img.discogs.com/iN4Fl0j999zxJ-FVp9GeoexRjY4=/fit-in/600x607/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-260802-1306087730.jpeg.jpg)

FAB!!
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Post by: Better Midlands on February 04, 2021, 12:38:32 AM
Stevie Wonder - Love Light In Flight (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDEjKYjr_PY&t=15)

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This synth driven follow up to Wonder's #1 smash hit I Just Called To Say I Love You also on the soundtrack to Gene Wilder's The Woman In Red reached #44 in the UK.
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Post by: Better Midlands on February 04, 2021, 01:00:05 AM
Escape From New York - Fire In My Heart (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1hxR1ijoN4&t=25)

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Escape From New York began as a post-punk four piece (John Falleti, Mike Whitford, Nigel Swanston and Tim Cox) called Airstrip One, George Orwell's fictional synonym for the British Isles in 1984. A handful of their early '80s singles cycled through the sounds of groove-minded bands like Gang Of Four and The Pop Group—the music was solid but compromised by a reverence to a small set of ideas that had gone stale. (By the time of their '81 debut, bands like ABC, Heaven 17 and Orange Juice had become the UK's fashionable vanguard.) Airstrip One re-emerged two years later as Escape From New York, a similarly short-lived project with a crucial difference. In exchanging a grim dystopian reference for a lighter one, John Carpenter and Kurt Russell's post-apocalypse film, the quartet's music took on a sense of fun and adventure.

Fire In My Heart, was the band's remarkable transformation in 1984, where New York electro, Roger Troutman-style funk and dub-infused disco were fashioned into clean curves. There's a neat geometry to "Fire In My Heart," whose glistening bells and chimes are sewn to the drums in micro-embroidered patterns. It's not the fine details that get you, though. Shadowed by Nigel Swanston's more untrained, boyish tone, Jaki Graham's gutsy mezzo-soprano is like an action hero's catchphrase—memorable, fearless and delivered with a wink. But Graham's vocal doesn't steal the show entirely. Feeding the synth notes through a North African scale, "Fire In My Heart"'s prancing melody shimmers like chain mail catching sunlight.

The production team went on to have huge success in the early 90's writing and producing for Rozalla.
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Post by: Clatty McCutcheon on February 04, 2021, 01:03:53 AM
The Triffids - Red Pony

https://youtu.be/xIl-TU53tfg

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Despite 1983 being plastered all over this YouTube promo video, Discogs has the Triffids’ debut full-length album Treeless Plain (of which this is the opening track) down as having been recorded in ‘83 but not released until ‘84. Formed in Perth, Western Australia in 1978, and active until 1989, the band failed to make a major commercial breakthrough despite a move towards increasingly sophisticated songwriting and a more polished sound. The album’s name was taken from the semi-arid Nullarbor Plain in southern Australia, across which the band would travel for five days (three once they got a better van) to play gigs in Adelaide.

The band had a broader range of influences than many post-punk bands, harking back to the Velvet Underground and the Doors, as well as incorporating elements of folk and country music, and a sense of the wide open spaces of western and southern Australia. Red Pony features a hypnotic violin refrain played by a Robert McComb, brother of singer David.

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Post by: Clatty McCutcheon on February 04, 2021, 01:20:05 AM
Miracle Legion - The Backyard

https://youtu.be/AZ78AZhzIoU

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Formed in 1983 in New Haven, Connecticut, Miracle Legion perhaps never quite managed to shrug off comparisons to early REM, but released the fine mini-album/EP The Backyard in 1984, of which this is the title track. It’s evocation of hazy childhood summer memories is the perfect soundtrack for a dark, chilly February night.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 04, 2021, 01:32:23 AM
What I Like Most About You Is Your Girlfriend - The Special AKA.  Released on 2Tone in 1984.

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A very painful delivery but arguably, the best Specials (related) album?  Certainly, the best promo.

Also. A 'fuck you' to the ingratiating cunt at my brother's wedding a few years ago.  Card marked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi_uV6ojDSs
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 04, 2021, 03:07:23 AM
OK, I now declare this year of 1984 officially open!
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 04, 2021, 03:09:30 AM
Dead Can Dance - In Power We Entrust (The Love Advocated)

https://youtu.be/S42ziu4Adno (https://youtu.be/S42ziu4Adno)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/db/Garden_of_the_Arcane_Delights_%28Dead_Can_Dance_EP%29_cover_art.jpg)

Formed in Melbourne in August 1981 with Paul Erikson on bass guitar, Lisa Gerrard on vocals and percussion, Simon Monroe on drums and Brendan Perry on vocals and guitar. They relocated to England in 1983 and signed to 4AD, releasing their debut EP, Garden of the Arcane Delights, in August 84. This track was the lead on the EP. The band, soon reduced to the core duo of Gerard and Perry, went on to great success, both artistic and commercial, with Gerard carving out a parallel career composing Hollywood soundtracks.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 04, 2021, 01:20:23 PM
The Replacements - Androgynous

(https://samuelsounds.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/the-replacements.jpg?w=580)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8J9WssSj7Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8J9WssSj7Q)

A certain former comedy writer wouldn't like this delightful anthem one little bit. GOOD.

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The Replacements were an American rock band formed in Minneapolis, Minnesota, in 1979. Initially a punk band, they are considered one of the pioneers of alternative rock. Unlike many of their underground contemporaries, the Replacements played "heart-on-the-sleeve" rock songs that combined singer/guitarist Paul Westerberg's "raw-throated adolescent howl" with self-deprecating lyrics. The Replacements were a notoriously wayward live act, often performing under the influence of alcohol and playing fragments of covers instead of their own material.

Androgynous, which has been described as "decades ahead of its time", describes in positive terms a romantic relationship between two gender non-conforming individuals, and suggests that in future perhaps such relationships will be more accepted.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 04, 2021, 04:59:23 PM
David Sylvian - Nostalgia

https://youtu.be/BHpdAONEmZE (https://youtu.be/BHpdAONEmZE)

(https://img.youtube.com/vi/b2kGvZN2fNg/0.jpg)

After Japan split in 1982, Sylvian released his first solo collaborative effort with Ryuichi Sakamoto, entitled "Bamboo Houses/Bamboo Music". This track is taken from his debut solo album, Brilliant Trees, which included contributions from (amongst others) Sakamoto, trumpeter Jon Hassell and former Can bassist Holger Czukay. It featured the UK Top 20 single "Red Guitar".
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 04, 2021, 06:29:40 PM
Liberator - Spear Of Destiny. Released on Burning Rome in 1984.

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Great live. Rough gigs though. The fans were almost as scary as The Stranglers' mob.

Spear of Destiny is a British rock band, founded in 1983 by singer and songwriter Kirk Brandon (born 3 August 1956 in London) and bassist Stan Stammers (born 19 May 1961). It has had an ever-changing line-up through the years.

Formed by Kirk Brandon and Stan Stammers after the demise of 'Theatre Of Hate' with an original line-up that includes Chris Bell and Lascelles James for the 1983 album 'The Grapes of Wrath'. There have been many changes in the musical style and in the musicians that make up the group, with only Kirk Brandon being the constant member.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp3w3PEf6AM
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Post by: daf on February 04, 2021, 06:44:27 PM
Guess who's back, Back again . . . B.A.’s back, Tell a friend! . . .

The George Squares – What's New Jimmy? (A Glasgow Song) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqDRj0ObooE)

(https://i.imgur.com/j9a3Xgq.jpg)

Released in 1984 - did not chart

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The George Squares ‎featuring Miles Better and the crew of HMS Glasgow. Dearie me - I picked this up recently at a charity shop in Shawlands.  50p, although I managed to get 5 for £2.  Couldn't resist it!

(https://i.imgur.com/WctZUoK.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/J1G7VxF.jpg)

It's a BA Robertston production, and the lyrics are SUPERB.  Take each letter of the word Glasgow, start a sentence with it and you've got a great song there.  Bang on some 80s production and we're there.

'Hello Dolly' composer Jerry Herman currently giving that 'B A Robertson' credit the skunk-eye!
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 04, 2021, 06:50:33 PM
Associates - Those First Impressions
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHCKSZZNB8c

Alan Rankine having left post-Sulk frustrated by Billy Mac's refusal to tour, this led to Associates MK II: Billy MacKenzie aided and abetted by various session musos. I still like a lot of Associates stuff from this point on although it is dismissed by many, and Those First Impressions is actually my one of my favourite things Billy put his voice to. This was released to promote Perhaps, released the following year, which while patchy has a few gems on it. The way Billy's voice swoops around the chorus and seemingly effortlessly pulls off the octave leaps throughout the song never fails to make me swoon.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 04, 2021, 06:53:00 PM
The Cheepskates - Run Better Run

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_nVrf9YP2-s4/Rs17k6Wk-WI/AAAAAAAAASE/tVF84ZBgU7o/s400/cheepskatesgw%5B1%5D.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xte_h6oyDEg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xte_h6oyDEg)

If this Farfisa-fingered bubblegum earworm had been released by a bunch of garage-dwelling Illinois teenagers in 1966, it could've been a fluke chart smash. But it wasn't. Still, hats off to these dudes for capturing that pure, pimpled, snotty Nuggets essence. A loving pastiche.

Cool!
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 04, 2021, 07:19:13 PM
German Humour - A Young Man's Old Girlfriend

https://youtu.be/2IFlIzcvQSU (https://youtu.be/2IFlIzcvQSU)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2IFlIzcvQSU/mqdefault.jpg)

From Perth, Australia. As far as I can make out, this was their only release.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 04, 2021, 09:05:43 PM
Cool!

The best Nuggets homage I have ever heard! They nailed it.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 04, 2021, 09:30:13 PM
Soft Cell - Meet Murder My Angel
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjIu3aZyVX4

From Soft Cell's best album and the last consistent thing Marc Almond's name was ever attached to in my book, although he continued to write great songs for many years. Meet Murder My Angel should be on the soundtrack to everything Dennis Cooper ever wrote. "Your pleaser annoyer destroyer and voyeur waits around the corner at the backdoor to paradise" is precisely why I praise Marc Almond as a lyricist and as a vocalist. That this album ever got into the charts makes me very happy. This was later covered by Coil but remained unreleased until Jhonn and Sleazy died and the archive scraping began: as much as I love Coil, this version is far superior. Soft Cell would later reform years later as a damp squib retaining none of their former sleaze, glamour or glory.
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Post by: daf on February 04, 2021, 10:00:07 PM
Elvis Costello and The Attractions - Turning The Town Red (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdS8RwCE9F4)

(https://i.imgur.com/zpSIVpi.jpg)

Released in June 1984 as the B-side of "I Wanna Be Loved" - reached #25 in the UK charts

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Scully was a British television drama that originated from a 1978 BBC Play For Today episode "Scully's New Year's Eve". Originally broadcast on Channel Four in 1984, the single series was spread over six half-hour episodes plus a one-hour final episode. It was written by playwright Alan Bleasdale. The drama is notable for featuring many of the Liverpool football club first-team squad of that era. Musician and songwriter Elvis Costello played Scully's brother, and wrote and performed the show's theme song "Turning The Town Red".

Elvis Costello : "This was written for the opening titles of Alan Bleasdale's television series Scully. The basic track was cut during the Goodbye Cruel World sessions but for the vocal and guitar overdubs I returned to AIR studios and worked with Jon Jacobs (who was assistant engineer on Imperial Bedroom)."

(https://i.imgur.com/fBIfoAd.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/fFSdniv.jpg) 

Francis Scully (played by Andrew Schofield) is a teenage boy who has his heart set on gaining a trial match for Liverpool to hopefully fulfil his ambition of playing for the club. Francis, in everyday situations during his waking hours, occasionally "sees" famous Liverpool players such as Kenny Dalglish when they are not really there.

[TV Producer] Sandy Ross : "I’d met and got quite friendly with Alan Bleasdale. I thought the Scully books were absolutely fantastic so I managed to convince Alan that Scully and Mooey, his mate, should be the stowaways on the ship. Alan used to write the stuff, almost like a spin off of the Scully books. To give you an idea of the time it took to get it off the ground, Scully’s hero in the book and at the start of the process was Kevin Keegan. But by the time we actually got the thing made that translated to Kenny Dalglish, who was wearing the number 7 shirt and was Scully’s hero."

(https://i.imgur.com/rMdJCqf.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/7TyF08D.jpg)

"Kenny was very friendly and all the rest of it. He always made it clear he was no actor but he was happy to take part in the thing. All these kind of negotiations started with Liverpool about getting him to shoot that sequence and all the rest of it. When the team ran out it was Scully who was wearing the number 7 shirt. So that was quite complicated to organise but of course what made it easy was the Kop knew who Scully was. So there were announcements made to the Kop, ‘this is what is happening today, we are shooting this sequence’. So they behaved like the Kop, cheered for Scully and all the rest of the stuff and Dalglish came out later on. You must remember Scully had been serialised on Radio Merseyside, so of course the fans at Anfield all knew who he was. ‘There’s only one Franny Scully’."
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 04, 2021, 10:04:20 PM
This Mortal Coil - Not Me

https://youtu.be/XHFdtneDlB8 (https://youtu.be/XHFdtneDlB8)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/ItllEndinTearsalbumcover.png)


Taken from their debut album, It'll End in Tears, featuring many of the artists on the 4AD roster at the time, including Cocteau Twins, Colourbox, and Dead Can Dance; as well as key post-punk figure Howard Devoto. This is a cover of a Colin Newman song, demoed for his A-Z debut but not included on the final album.
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Post by: daf on February 05, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
Mad Jocks And Englishmen ‎– Just Like Kenny (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhfWLcteA1s)

(https://i.imgur.com/7blpVPA.jpg)

Released in March 1984 - did not chart

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Kenneth Mathieson Dalglish was born in Dalmarnock in the east end of Glasgow, and was brought up in Milton in the north of the city. When he was 14 the family moved to a newly-built tower block in Ibrox overlooking the home ground of Rangers, the club he had grown up supporting. Dalglish signed a professional contract with Celtic in May 1967. In his first season, Dalglish was loaned out to Cumbernauld United, for whom he scored 37 goals. Dalglish made his first-team competitive debut for Celtic in a Scottish League Cup quarter-final tie against Hamilton Academical on 25 September 1968, coming on as a second-half substitute in a 4–2 win. The 1971–72 season saw Dalglish finally establish himself in the Celtic first team, scoring 29 goals in 53 games and helping Celtic win their seventh consecutive league title.

On 10 August 1977, after making 320 appearances and scoring 167 goals for Celtic, Dalglish was signed by Liverpool manager Bob Paisley for a British transfer fee record of £440,000.

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Dalglish was signed to replace Keggy Keegle, and quickly settled into his new club. He made his debut on 13 August 1977 in the season opener at Wembley, in the 1977 FA Charity Shield against Manchester United. By the end of his first season with Liverpool, Dalglish had played 62 times and scored 31 goals, including the winning goal in the 1978 European Cup Final at Wembley against Bruges.

John Peel : "Captain Beefheart and Kenny Dalglish are two of the very, very few remarkable people on Earth. Actually, you can put Lee Perry right up there with Captain Beefheart and Kenny Dalglish among that select group of truly wonderful people on the planet."

(https://i.imgur.com/PlV1cQE.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/xak8Aeu.jpg)

John Peel : "I always liked the fact that he would become - when we were in public places with him and somebody came up and started being kind of tedious and boring, which people often did - he would lapse into being impenetrably Glaswegian."

Confusingly, there seems to be two bands called 'Mad Jocks And Englishmen'. From the band members listed on the back of the record sleeve, this doesn't seem to be the same as the Birmingham-based folk group (https://www.discogs.com/artist/2948917-Mad-Jocks-amp-Englishmen) who released a few albums between 1975 and 1990.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 05, 2021, 12:23:16 AM
Julian Cope - Head Hang Low

https://youtu.be/CcmuttdxdKY (https://youtu.be/CcmuttdxdKY)

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81F0gVGACbL._SS500_.jpg)

After leaving The Teardrop Explodes in 1982, Cope started a long and varied solo career that continues to the present day. This version was recorded for a John Peel Session, while the (inferior) studio version surfaced on his debut solo album, World Shut Your Mouth, released in March.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 05, 2021, 03:07:36 AM
Unity - Afrika Bambaataa & James Brown. Released on Tommy Boy in 1984.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/FLBYZI.jpg)

I was obsessed with James Brown as a skinhead/ mod teenager back in '84. I bought this 12" in Our Price because it involved 'The Godfather Of Soul'.  It's baffling, that I never went immediately from a rude boy to a B-Boy overnight because this is mint!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6hE5OmpKyc
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 05, 2021, 03:15:48 AM
This Mortal Coil - Not Me

https://youtu.be/XHFdtneDlB8 (https://youtu.be/XHFdtneDlB8)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/ItllEndinTearsalbumcover.png)


Taken from their debut album, It'll End in Tears, featuring many of the artists on the 4AD roster at the time, including Cocteau Twins, Colourbox, and Dead Can Dance; as well as key post-punk figure Howard Devoto. This is a cover of a Colin Newman song, demoed for his A-Z debut but not included on the final album.

This is great!
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 05, 2021, 03:28:15 AM
Red Lorry Yellow Lorry - Monkey's on Juice

https://youtu.be/tq2dd4NaLzE (https://youtu.be/tq2dd4NaLzE)

(https://img.discogs.com/SBlBjOvHa2IJVACmBPfeJSmkA6k=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-973236-1371159154-8131.jpeg.jpg)

We last heard from RLYL back in 1982 and now they're back with this,  their fifth single.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 05, 2021, 03:40:28 AM
This is great!

Isn't it. Always felt it could have been a great Wire single if things had worked out differently.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 05, 2021, 09:25:46 AM
The Go-Betweens - Bachelor Kisses
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_nn90p-tIg

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Forster later said of the song, "Grant wrote this. It sounded like a pop song right from the word go. He was a very, very melodic songwriter. "Bachelor Kisses" was just something that rolled off and felt very natural and beautiful. It's amazing." McLennan said, "I'm sorry if it sounds a courtly song but it's not about that. I see a lot of infidelity around me most people involved in music are guilty of it in many cases. I see a lot of trust, promises being broken – I'm guilty of it myself. It's about all the promises the world of men have made women as far as the future of their lives, security, the raising of children, and I've found it wanting. Not a unique thought."

Perhaps my favourite Go-Betweens single.
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Post by: daf on February 05, 2021, 07:27:45 PM
Video Kids ‎– Woodpeckers From Space (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lGHaE6NTqk)

(https://i.imgur.com/oGttuQL.jpg)

Released in October 1984 - Number 1 in Norway and Spain, it reached #72 in the UK chart

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VideoKids were a 1980s Euro disco/Italo disco duo from The Netherlands, formed in 1984 and led by Peter Slaghuis and Bianca Bonelli. They released two albums, The Invasion of the Spacepeckers in 1984 and On Satellite in 1985.

(https://i.imgur.com/oRhLkxS.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/rao0XGa.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/wfQs8MD.jpg)
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 05, 2021, 07:30:19 PM
Mr.T's Commandment - Mr.T.  Released on Columbia in 1984. Peaked in US charts at 75.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/tBUaG1.jpg)

The video is a must-watch. His heart is in the right place with a tough message to the American youth, but I'm not so sure that him assaulting anyone he doesn't like the look of and then going on a murder spree was a great example to set. Mr.T's rapping makes Anthony Rudd from Look Around You 2 Music 2000 seem as proficient as Jay Z.

Boxer and actor, Mr.T was born Laurence Tureaud on 21 May 1952 in the rough southside ghetto area of Chicago. He is the second to youngest of twelve children (he has four sisters and seven brothers) and grew up in the housing projects of Chicago. His father left when he was 5, and his mother raised the family on $87 a month welfare in a three-room apartment. Mr. T's brothers encouraged him to build up his body in order to survive in the area, and he has commented, "If you think I'm big, you should see my brothers!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwQoV407vJY&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on February 05, 2021, 07:35:00 PM
I, mercifully, didn't have that Mr T single, but I did have Mr T pyjamas around the same time. As a four/five year old, I would hasten to add.

I certainly hadn't seen Rocky III by that point, but the A-Team was huge - hard to say which between that and Knight Rider was more popular with my peer group, so a little bit surprised the single didn't chart here.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 05, 2021, 07:41:53 PM
I, mercifully, didn't have that Mr T single, but I did have Mr T pyjamas around the same time. As a four/five year old, I would hasten to add.

I certainly hadn't seen Rocky III by that point, but the A-Team was huge - hard to say which between that and Knight Rider was more popular with my peer group, so a little bit surprised the single didn't chart here.

Probably, because it's not very good. 
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 05, 2021, 07:46:44 PM
Robert Wyatt - Biko

https://youtu.be/8QSUKz5BjrE (https://youtu.be/8QSUKz5BjrE)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/31VKTGQ4L2L._SY355_.jpg)

This is a cover of the 1980 Peter Gabriel song, a musical eulogy, inspired by the death of the black South African anti-apartheid activist Steve Biko in police custody on 12 September 1977.This version made it to number 35 in the Festive Fifty.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 05, 2021, 07:48:32 PM
Fad Gadget - Ideal World
(https://img.discogs.com/smhBVdNcbqoGqq7AqQ2atEeKbBg=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-47656-1437070358-5942.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM9myuu24V4

Frank Tovey has already been represented in this thread, as has the album Gag from which this is drawn (by the single Collapsing New People released the previous year). I'm posting this quite simply because it's one of my favourite Fad Gadget tracks and because Rowland S Howard's remarkable guitar playing also features in a Mute Records dream-team crossover.
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on February 05, 2021, 08:01:10 PM
Probably, because it's not very good.
Of course, but being "not very good" hasn't precluded numerous songs from being huge hits.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 05, 2021, 08:17:14 PM
Of course, but being "not very good" hasn't precluded numerous songs from being huge hits.

True.

Maybe Columbia didn't think the British 'yoof' would relate to what is essentially a Stateside PSA.?
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 05, 2021, 08:33:39 PM
Of course, but being "not very good" hasn't precluded numerous songs from being huge hits.

something of a prerequisite I'd say.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 05, 2021, 08:35:15 PM
Lloyd Cole & The Commotions - Down On Mission Street

https://youtu.be/37YbN6VmpZk (https://youtu.be/37YbN6VmpZk)

(https://circlesoflife143.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/lloyd-cole-rattlesnakes.jpg?w=300&h=293)

Taken from their debut album, Rattlesnakes, released in October.
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Post by: Better Midlands on February 05, 2021, 08:46:50 PM
Magazine 60 - Don Quichotte (No Están Aquí)
 (https://youtu.be/tp7UcFuxfM0)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d8/Don_Quichotte_Magazine_60.jpeg/220px-Don_Quichotte_Magazine_60.jpeg)

Don Quichotte (No Están Aquí)", also known simply as "Don Quichotte", is a single by French band Magazine 60 released on 1984 through CBS Records, which is included in their second studio album Costa del Sol . It was written and produced by Jean-Luc Drion and Dominique Régiacorte. The song features lyrics in Spanish and a dialogue in English.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 05, 2021, 08:51:33 PM
Sad Lovers and Giants - 50:50

https://youtu.be/CzMTr8IHQs4 (https://youtu.be/CzMTr8IHQs4)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CzMTr8IHQs4/hqdefault.jpg)

Sad Lovers And Giants fell apart at the end of 1983. This is taken from In the Breeze, a collection of previously unreleased recordings spanning their lifetime. This a demo recorded in 1981.
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Post by: Better Midlands on February 05, 2021, 09:02:53 PM
George Kranz - Din Daa Daa (https://youtu.be/9C_l450H5pQ)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81rFwyeULZL._AC_SX425_.jpg)

Quote
A funky, minimalist mix of onomatopoeic beatboxing, shimmering synth programming, ’80s-boogie bass and hard-swing drums, “Din Daa Daa” sounds like nothing else before it, and nothing else since. Its oddball singularity is no small feat, given that the 1980s served up head-scratching European pop kitsch like no other decade. “Din Daa Daa” made its official debut in the summer of 1983, more than a year prior to the official release of Breakdance 2 : Electric Boogaloo. First distributed on music publisher Peter Schimmelpfennig’s independent Pool Records, a small West Berlin-based label where Kranz was making side cash producing for hire, the track was originally titled “Trommeltanz,” a German compound that roughly translates as “drum dance.” Making “Din Daa Daa” wasn’t expensive: In an interview, Kranz said that the recording cost 5,000 Deutsche Marks, then the equivalent of approximately $1,800 USD. Nobody, including Kranz, expected it to be a runaway hit.

But France’s Disques Chris’ Music purchased 25,000 singles, and reportedly sold out its stock in less than a week. “Din Daa Daa” rose to #3 on the French club charts and it went to #28 on the German charts, where it spent twelve weeks from February to May 1984. Island Records subsidiary 4th and Broadway picked up the single for international distribution, and while “Din Daa Daa” never became a crossover pop hit in the US, it did reach #61 on the Hot Black Singles chart (as it was then called), and spent two weeks at #1 on the Billboard Hot Dance Club Play chart (where it knocked off Danish group Laid Back’s similarly kooky “White Horse”). Intrepid DJs like Afrika Bambaataa and Ron Hardy reportedly incorporated “Din Daa Daa” into their eclectic sets, helping popularize the song in hip underground nightlife scenes. “Din Daa Daa” became the fifth most successful US dance club single of 1984, topped only by “White Horse,” Prince’s “When Doves Cry,” Sheila E.’s “The Glamorous Life” and the Pointer Sisters’ “I Need You/Automatic/Jump.”
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 05, 2021, 09:08:10 PM
Skeletal Family - Promised Land

https://youtu.be/cf2nKRRLFR0 (https://youtu.be/cf2nKRRLFR0)

(https://img.discogs.com/5lEbVIq6IZLDUZl7AUISFizMl4Y=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-398225-1360704014-2955.jpeg.jpg)

Formed in Keighley, West Yorkshire, in December 1982. This is their sixth single and it reached number 2 in the Indie charts.
They went on to release two albums before splitting in 1985.
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Post by: daf on February 05, 2021, 10:36:13 PM
XTC - Washaway (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wxMu53yUuw)

(https://i.imgur.com/p1cCyyx.jpg)

Released as the B-side to "All You Pretty Girls" - reached #55 in September 1984

Quote
Andy Partridge : "I think that at the time of The Big Express, part of me wanted to do an out-and-out concept album about Swindon -- my take on the town, my life in the town, and the town's life itself. I think that's why the album's called The Big Express. It might be a concept album by stealth! That's why there are things like "Train Running Low"; "Everyday Story of Smalltown"; the connection with my father through "All You Pretty Girls"; there's my fear at the time of nuclear Armageddon, because we were still neck-deep in the Cold War. "Red Brick Dream" was out-and-out about Swindon."

(https://i.imgur.com/P4gG3lw.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/nmEdvbC.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/3wGUFQZ.jpg) 

"Colin's "Washaway" was about life on the Penhill council estate; "I Remember the Sun" was about the fields that he and I used to play over, next to the council estate.  the Penhill estate used to butt up next to the countryside. I mean, the first house I lived in on the estate, which was in Latton Close, I could go out in my front garden as a kid and 20 foot away was a fence to farmland. You could just hop the fence and roam off over farmland, streams and stuff. Colin used to do that as well -- we used to go over the fields, and get chased by farmer's boys who'd shoot at you with shotguns, or rough you up."

(https://i.imgur.com/q79d2i7.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/l7APLm2.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/P7cJYHk.jpg)   

"For all intents and purposes, Big Express is a lot more a concept album than most people's concept albums! But we never said it was. It's the anti-Sgt. Pepper, which everyone thought was a concept album, but wasn't. With Big Express, nobody thinks it's a concept album, but it actually might be."

As can be seen, this was housed in a special die-cut double sleeve - there's posh!
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 05, 2021, 11:10:12 PM
Cocteau Twins - Ivo

https://youtu.be/OKDwJOdq3zU (https://youtu.be/OKDwJOdq3zU)

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/thisismyjam/i/6f6a14025a1d42828393f810faa6dd4c_395.jpg?1433023141)

Opening track of their third album, Treasure, released in November and the first to feature bass player Simon Raymonde. It reached number 16 in the Festive Fifty
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 05, 2021, 11:30:13 PM
Television Personalities - Someone To Share My Life With
(https://img.discogs.com/Kq9blGAuIETbM4XUhK373yBv_cs=/fit-in/600x592/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-817321-1388777238-6169.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzn8Fvjhfdg

A beautiful third Velvets album kiss in the form of song from the wonderful Dan Treacey from the Television Personalities 1984 album The Painted Word. This is a song that has moved me to tears on several occasions.
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Post by: Phil_A on February 05, 2021, 11:51:54 PM
The Blue Nile - Regret (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5l3v2vXIHg)

(https://www.getintothis.co.uk/gitpics/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/07134223/blue-nile.jpg)

(https://img.discogs.com/8tup79M8YEdU2zlqiph-ClpxCl4=/fit-in/500x500/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-29384-1388599051-5191.jpeg.jpg)

Devastatingly poignant b-side from their third single, "Tinseltown In The Rain"

Quote
The Blue Nile are a musical group from Glasgow, Scotland.[4] The group's early music was built heavily on synthesizers and electronic instrumentation and percussion, although later works featured guitar more prominently. Following early championing by established artists such as Rickie Lee Jones and Peter Gabriel[5] (the band would later work with both acts), The Blue Nile gained critical acclaim, particularly for their first two albums A Walk Across the Rooftops and Hats, and some commercial success in both the UK and the US, which led to the band working with a wide range of musicians from the late 1980s onwards. The band has earned four top 75 hits on the UK Singles Chart, their highest being "Saturday Night" which reached No. 50 in 1991. In the United States, "The Downtown Lights" became their only charter, peaking at No. 10 on Billboard's Alternative Songs chart.

The band members have also gained a reputation for their avoidance of publicity, their idiosyncratic dealings with the recording industry, and their perfectionism and slow work rate, which has resulted in the release of just four albums since the group's formation in 1981. The group appears to have disbanded since the release of their fourth album High in 2004, although there has never been any official confirmation. In 2006, Buchanan earned a top 10 hit in the UK when he featured on Texas' song "Sleep", which reached No. 6.
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on February 05, 2021, 11:58:14 PM
I did enjoy when reading the Blue Nile biog 'Nileism' the exasperation of their-then manager* when they provided only a handful of songs for their last album 'High', that they (or just Paul Buchanan) came up with a few more over a weekend when required - the reaction being "you took eight years to come up with six songs, but then made three in a week?"

A beautiful, beautiful band, who will always be amongst my favourites.

* the fellow who had managed Dire Straits, of all people.
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Post by: daf on February 06, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
Coyote McCloud Featuring Clara Peller ‎– Where's The Beef (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZGhGFg-VlI)

(https://i.imgur.com/5ar6n1L.jpg)

Released in August 1984 - did not chart

Quote
"Where's the beef?" was introduced as a slogan for the fast food chain Wendy's in 1984. The  strategy behind the ad campaign was to distinguish competitors' big name hamburgers (Macdonalds's Big Mac and Burger King's Whopper) from Wendy's 'modest' Single by focusing on the large bun used by the competitors and the larger beef patty in Wendy's hamburger.

(https://i.imgur.com/7nxsgFf.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/DcDLi2l.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/gC3O50s.jpg) 

In the ad, titled "Fluffy Bun", actress Clara Peller receives a burger with a massive bun from a fictional competitor, which uses the slogan "Home of the Big Bun". The small patty prompts Peller angrily to exclaim, "Where's the beef?" Director Joe Sedelmaier actually wanted Peller to say, "Where is all the beef?" but because of emphysema, that was too hard for her.

(https://i.imgur.com/7dJqaPH.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/EWKFDxg.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/TnTXzQJ.jpg)

There were many "Where's the beef?" promotional items, including bumper stickers, frisbees, clothing patches, a Milton Bradley game and a spin-off single. The advertising campaign ended in 1985 after Peller performed in a commercial for Prego pasta sauce, saying "I found it, I really found it", a phrase alluding to the beef in the listener's mind.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 06, 2021, 12:18:32 AM
The Smiths - Girl Afraid

https://youtu.be/TTcR8QCgbmk (https://youtu.be/TTcR8QCgbmk)

(https://e.snmc.io/i/300/w/a0bafe381268391cfdb4a87247a680c5/2750173)

B-side to the How Soon Is Now? single.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 06, 2021, 01:20:06 AM
Really Glad You Came - Ian Dury & The Music Students. Released on Polydor in 1984.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/15d2O5.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/6BGT2B.jpg)

This is so painful to hear again now.  Mum. Sorry, Dad. It says 1983 on the video but whatevs!  I bought this single in '84.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t03qMYuBpOY
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 06, 2021, 02:07:52 AM
New Model Army - Vengeance

https://youtu.be/vxqWdSOVI9U (https://youtu.be/vxqWdSOVI9U)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51BM3iQJ9-L._SY355_.jpg)

Formed in Bradford in 1980 by lead singer, guitarist and main composer Justin Sullivan, bassist Stuart Morrow and drummer Phil Tompkins. This is the title track from their first album and it go to number 43 in the Festive Fifty.
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Post by: Gregory Torso on February 06, 2021, 08:28:31 AM
Beat Happening - Our Secret (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlQnmEKSBak)

(https://i.imgur.com/KvT5Bkz.jpg)

I go back and forth on Calvin Johnson/Beat Happening's musical output and influence, and as I get older maybe I can understand all the music snob wank that was flung around about "affected naivety" and I'm sure Olympia WA in the 80s and 90s would have been unbearable cliquey and twee and cultish, but who really cares when a song like this hits everything so hard and true and devastatingly.

As I pull my chair and desk up to the radiator in my frozen slice of rented shelter in the bleakest winter speeding towards middle age, this song fills me with an unbearable nostalgia for something I never even really had. I don't rate much that Calvin did after Beat Happening too highly, but damn, when they got it right it hit like a melancholic bulldozer, "emotion over musicianship", punk as fuck without any of the macho violence.

It's a also a testament to the strength of this music that even now, out of all the things I listen to that my wife hates, Beat Happening seems to piss her off more than anything else. That's staying power.

This was their first single, later reissued with the album on K records in the 1990s (when I bought it), and the band went on to get slightly better at playing their instruments until drifting apart around 1992.
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Post by: Gregory Torso on February 06, 2021, 08:38:52 AM
Salon Music - See Emily Play (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyxGAreycS0)

(https://i.imgur.com/cgCqcBG.jpg)

A very charming, bouncy Japanese synthpop cover of the Floyd. Salon Music are Hitomi Takenaka and Zin Yoshida and are apparently still going, although this album La Paloma Show is the only thing I have by them. It rules, it'll put a spring in your step, it's Zebedee on skittles, it's deerhoof in a blender.
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Post by: Gregory Torso on February 06, 2021, 08:49:44 AM
Six Sed Red - Shake It Right (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jlid2SWwK1U)

(https://i.imgur.com/ehxcRKZ.jpg)

Absolute sex, perfect for the tape/playlist/spotify url/weird letter that you want to send to that guy or girl in your disgusting dreams you dirty dog.

Produced by Cabaret Voltaire and featuring Soft Cell collaborator voltaire Cindy Ecstasy on the microfoam.
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Post by: Phil_A on February 06, 2021, 11:33:28 AM
Mr & Mrs Smith and Mr Drake - Camouflage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxMhatn2n7E)


(https://factmag-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/MrMrsSmith170714.jpeg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/3w9bRXbPSBvZ5N1Q8fzJRTZjfS94wtnSdZ99Z-XU2wQJBKzmY48p0TrPbemm7w4o_RGfo_TNO2XVEf-0h7AP0aMZdfSujU6ecPCUHqgc2LUJlbrJglNiTTjxIRNSRQ)

Mr & Mrs Smith and Mr Drake is something of an anomaly. I'd guess you could call it psychedelic folk, but it's not really like any other music associated with the genre. There's a bits of influence you can pick out here and there, like clarinet arrangement that brings to mind Vernon Elliott's music for Smallfilms, or a trumpet chorus that's a clear nod to The Wickerman soundtrack, but apart from that where it all comes from is a mystery, just like the changing of the seasons and the tides of the sea. It emerged with mystery and uncanniness running all through it like a particularly odd-tasting stick of rock.

Fuelling the strangeness is the absence of any information about it's conception and recording. At some point after meeting in 1983, Tim and Sarah Smith and William D Drake formed a separate musical trio away from the auspices of the dreaded Alphabet Business Concern, and recorded a largely acoustic album on four track tape, which like most of their releases at the time was sold via mail order or at gigs. And that was it, they moved on to other stuff and the origins of this particular project were never spoken about. Some of the songs stuck around and found their way into later Sea Nymphs setlists and Bill Drake's solo shows, but the bulk of them were never performed live and remain shrouded in obscurity

Thankfully when the album did eventually get a CD release in 2003, other than a couple of typically oblique sentences on the back absolutely nothing was revealed about how it was made. The mystique remained intact, and so it shall most likely stay. It's all just tunes, innit.

https://www.factmag.com/2014/07/17/forgotten-classics-mr-mrs-smith-and-mr-drake/
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 06, 2021, 01:56:47 PM
I, Bloodbrother Be - Shockheaded Peters
(https://img.discogs.com/ZFLLr4E4Fk1G4yBkeiku9qHr8nM=/fit-in/600x603/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1437110-1296297861.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MisfJux-d

The first Shockheaded Peters single and for some reason the only thing that ever shows up on compilations by them. I feel it's a great shame that Karl Blake isn't regarded the way he should be - i.e. as one of the great British songwriters and I'm not just saying that because I wrote a fan message to him and we became friends from that point on. Ace walking bassline and the opening line "I wanna walk through Sodom with a boy on my arm who's so damned pretty I don't know where I am" pops into my head at inopportune moments. Sadly never while I've got anyone on my arm who's so damned pretty I don't know where I am but there's time I guess. The cover art of the single hints towards future Shockheaded Peters song Thumbs of a Murderer. How Faris Badwan from The Horrors got away with just stealing his voice I'll never know.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 06, 2021, 03:49:55 PM
The Blue Nile – Easter Parade

https://youtu.be/6yiut01GK1Y (https://youtu.be/6yiut01GK1Y)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1f/TBN-WalkAcross.jpg)

Formed at Glasgow University in 1979, this is taken from their debut album, A Walk Across the Rooftops, released in April. Notoriously publicity averse and perfectionist, they released only four albums in 20 years, the last being in 2004. Nothing has been heard from them since.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 06, 2021, 04:01:10 PM
Jerry Goldsmith - Gremlins Theme

(https://img.discogs.com/7i25OGcdYZYt7IXct9vLoIl7qLU=/fit-in/500x499/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1959508-1257941142.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmgwEhouZAY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmgwEhouZAY)

The great Jerry Goldsmith was responsible for so many of the sounds of my youth. I know I'm far from alone in that.

Quote
Jerry Goldsmith was an American composer and conductor, best known for his work in film and television. He composed scores for five films in the Star Trek franchise and three in the Rambo franchise, as well as for Alien, Logan's Run, Planet of the Apes, Patton, Papillion, Chinatown, Poltergeist, Gremlins, The Omen, Total Recall and L.A. Confidential. He is regarded as one of cinema's most innovative and influential composers.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 06, 2021, 04:02:06 PM
I, Bloodbrother Be - Shockheaded Peters
(https://img.discogs.com/ZFLLr4E4Fk1G4yBkeiku9qHr8nM=/fit-in/600x603/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1437110-1296297861.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MisfJux-d

The first Shockheaded Peters single and for some reason the only thing that ever shows up on compilations by them. I feel it's a great shame that Karl Blake isn't regarded the way he should be - i.e. as one of the great British songwriters and I'm not just saying that because I wrote a fan message to him and we became friends from that point on. Ace walking bassline and the opening line "I wanna walk through Sodom with a boy on my arm who's so damned pretty I don't know where I am" pops into my head at inopportune moments. Sadly never while I've got anyone on my arm who's so damned pretty I don't know where I am but there's time I guess. The cover art of the single hints towards future Shockheaded Peters song Thumbs of a Murderer. How Faris Badwan from The Horrors got away with just stealing his voice I'll never know.

The link doesn't go anywhere, for some reason. Here's a link to the official video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MisfJux-dek

This is a good track, which I've not heard before. I don't really know much Shockheaded Peters, which is a bit daft for a Dax fan.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 06, 2021, 04:22:51 PM
Cabaret Voltaire - Sensoria

(https://img.discogs.com/gc0091lRDNuvX-KwVRAKbJQn6wU=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-54873-1188242463.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u295DE9b8ZM

From the album Micro-phonies, which was produced by Flood and named punningly after a Stockhausen composition. I prefer the album version to the single version, although the video for that is worth checking out here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2vCpT1H7u0.

At this point[1], the Cabs had fully embraced their digital electronic sound and Mallinder had perfected the three-note vocal line. I think that this was the track that opened up the world of electronic music to me. Up until this point, I think I had always valued what I considered to be the 'live' aspect to music and this blew that misconception out of the water.

 1. Annoyingly, in my haste to post something from Johnny Yesno, I forgot to post anything from 1983's The Crackdown, which shows the direction of travel.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 06, 2021, 04:31:33 PM
The Bangles - Hero Takes a Fall

(https://miro.medium.com/max/1050/1*dAuLiV4fn0iuiqJTkVDiLQ.jpeg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2YW_e_rSMw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2YW_e_rSMw)

The opening track on their debut album. A resounding commercial flop when released as a single, but they'd soon have their day in the toppermost of the poppermost sun.

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Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 06, 2021, 04:38:09 PM
Danielle Dax - Hammerheads

(https://img.discogs.com/5RuAVqprdu5s4v4s5hRQ1QaPJX4=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-395473-1440521899-4271.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp9MNZ-SdHc

From Dax's second solo album Jesus Egg That Wept. There's a interview on YouTube somewhere where she explains that the album title comes from a Sun headline for a story about an alleged Easter egg miracle.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 06, 2021, 04:50:40 PM
Big Black - Racer-X

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7_OpDdqGeg

From the e.p. of the same name. For me, this is where they really got their sound together. The drum machine sounds properly intentional rather than because a drummer wasn't available, which in 1984 is a feat for a post hardcore band. Somewhere on the sleeve, Albini challenges you to spot the 8-track recordings from the 16-track recordings. I reckon I can but, really, the e.p. is great from start to finish.
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Post by: Phil_A on February 06, 2021, 05:53:11 PM
The Blue Nile – Easter Parade

https://youtu.be/6yiut01GK1Y (https://youtu.be/6yiut01GK1Y)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1f/TBN-WalkAcross.jpg)

Formed at Glasgow University in 1979, this is taken from their debut album, A Walk Across the Rooftops, released in April. Notoriously publicity averse and perfectionist, they released only four albums in 20 years, the last being in 2004. Nothing has been heard from them since.

Buchanan said in interview that they never officially broke up, more just kind of gradually drifted apart as band members till they weren't in touch anymore. Sad, really. Hopefully he'll do another solo album at some point.
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Post by: Norton Canes on February 06, 2021, 05:56:30 PM
Hard Corps - Dirty (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukh8il7kEs0)


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Released 1984

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In 1983, after years of experimenting with Bowie and Ferry clones and building an arsenal of backing tracks, the three originators, Hugh Ashton, Robert Doran and Clive Pierce, were introduced to 'stage performer', French born Regine Fetet... an enigmatic, fragile, human voice lent itself and brought alive the cold, pounding machined music the sound engineers were creating. With influences as far and wide as Mozart and Kraftwerk working in unison with a heavily accentuated French vocal, the result is magnificent and unique...


(https://minimalwave.com/images/articles/Hard_Corps_372x568.jpg)


Hard Corps primer on New Wave Complex (http://newwavecomplex.com/index.php/hard-corps) | Interviews on Electricityclub (http://www.electricityclub.co.uk/hard-corps-interview/)

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Post by: daf on February 06, 2021, 06:00:00 PM
Frank Kelly ‎– The Barnet Song (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB9CuuSbJkg)

(https://i.imgur.com/aExwFI5.jpg)

Released in May 1984 - did not chart

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Francis Kelly was born, in 1938, in Blackrock, south County Dublin. He was educated at Blackrock College and went on to study law at University College Dublin and tried journalism, working for years as a subeditor at Irish newspapers, before moving on to acting. Kelly's first film role was as an uncredited prison officer in The Italian Job, escorting Charlie Croker (Michael Caine) out of prison in the film's opening sequence.

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He starred in the popular RTÉ children's programme Wanderly Wagon alongside Eugene Lambert and Nora O'Mahoney from 1968 to 1982, playing a number of different characters and writing many of the scripts. It was Kelly's work on Hall's Pictorial Weekly, from 1970 to 1982, that established him as one of Ireland's most recognisable faces. He memorably portrayed councillor Parnell Mooney, a send-up of a backwards local authority figure in rural Ireland.

(https://i.imgur.com/iOJZIhB.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/zmP9Zdo.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/gvKGD6f.jpg)

His most famous role was that of Father Jack in Arthur Matthews' comedy classic Father Ted.

Frank Kelly : "I like humour — but I'm very suspicious of people who laugh all the time, because they never listen to what you're saying, they always — have another agenda and they generally have no sense of humour. The most untrustworthy body language I know is that of the person who laughs all the time. That terrifies me. People with no sense or a very limited sense of humour I am very wary of too, because it's not a sign of great intelligence to be without a sense of humour. If you've no sense of irony you haven't a great decision making capacity because you must see the possibilities of the downside of any decision. Without perspective you can't have any wisdom, so it frightens me when I meet captains of industry or whatever who have virtually no sense of humour. That's the kind of person I find dismaying."

He released several comedy albums, including 'Listen... Guess Who' in 1977, 'Frankelly Speaking' in 1978, 'Money For Old Rope' in 1981, and 'Comedy Countdown' in 1983.

(https://i.imgur.com/2vtSrPc.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/almLXwf.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/Rhko2mH.jpg)

Kelly released a single, "Christmas Countdown", a comedy monologue based on the Christmas song "The Twelve Days of Christmas", which reached number eight in the Irish Singles Chart, and peaked at #26 in the UK Singles Chart in December 1983.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 06, 2021, 06:26:16 PM
Dead Can Dance - Ocean

https://youtu.be/N0VO25VgUUc (https://youtu.be/N0VO25VgUUc)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/77/Dead_Can_Dance_album.jpg/220px-Dead_Can_Dance_album.jpg)

Best track from their self-titled debut album.
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on February 06, 2021, 06:49:44 PM
Buchanan said in interview that they never officially broke up, more just kind of gradually drifted apart as band members till they weren't in touch anymore.
From what I've read, it mainly comes down to issues Paul Joseph Moore has with Buchanan/the band as a whole.
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 06, 2021, 07:29:07 PM
Magma- Eliphas Levi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bh4ZucdTig&feature=emb_logo
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/Rdec8470d4f1825b522fdd34f753c3d3c?rik=Ax3Vbb%2bcMXvJsQ&riu=http%3a%2f%2fwww.progarchives.com%2fprogressive_rock_discography_covers%2f646%2fcover_181141162016_r.jpg&ehk=vxbmNz2hoQCUV%2fCSwp%2fmrWJF7KBpRn7Oa3mCFFcTwWw%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw)

French prog band are best known for their unique choir and percussion performances inspired by composer Carl Orff's operas and John Coltrane's jazz works. I personally find their most well-regarded pieces a bit unrelentingly intense for regular listening, but this piece, from their generally unloved album "Merci" starts in a very gentle, ambient-style mood.
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Post by: Hooverbag Sherlocks on February 06, 2021, 07:36:24 PM
Holger Hiller  - Jonny
Single released on Cherry Red, 1984

(https://i.imgur.com/KWkuzSQ.jpg)

Not entirely sure how you’d describe this - mutant Motown, perhaps. Julian Cope calls it a ‘dance floor classic that never was’. Hiller was co-founder of cultish German avant-garde new wave collective Palais Schaumburg, a band probably more renowned for the later work its various ex-members did with the likes of The Orb, Einsturzende Neubauten and Basic Channel. He specialised in constructing music out of raw, looped and found sound and has been hailed as one of the first musicians to use a sampler as their instrument of choice (although I dare say that claim features on a lot of his peers’ CVs too). Went on to do some interesting work creating music through video cut-ups, production duties at Mute Records and then became a teacher, I believe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwcuo-kNpvs
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 06, 2021, 07:52:21 PM
That Holger Hiller track went straight on a YouTube playlist I have called simply "Wall to Wall Bangers".

Barbara Mason - Another Man
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXEofWhKCVc

Technically this came out in '83 but I forgot to post it, and the extended version I'm posting here which is the one worth listening to only came out '84. More familiar to many of us from the soundtrack to the 1990 film about vogue culture Paris Is Burning, Another Man is a curiously homophobic synth funk record about a woman discovering that her boyfriend is in fact bisexual. Being unaware that this is a thing she assumes that he's gay. Lyrically this is absolutely hilarious and her delivery of "I had begun to notice a certain strangeness" never fails to set me off. Production wise though this is ace, with the ahead of it's time bursts of glitch around the edge of the mix; the gooey synth bass and the really detailed drum programming. There was an answer record, Another Man Is Twice as Nice by Tout Sweet.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 06, 2021, 08:16:01 PM
Mr.T's Commandment - Mr.T.  Released on Columbia in 1984. Peaked in US charts at 75.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwQoV407vJY&feature=emb_logo

That's amazing. As you say, T means well, but his aspirational message is somewhat undermined by the utter carnage he wreaks throughout the video.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 06, 2021, 08:33:30 PM
Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel - I'll Meet You In Poland Baby
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAj4LmJm47U

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There is a reasonable amount of sampling throughout the album. But you, even then, were so adept at blending sound it’s fairly difficult to determine what is actually played and what is sampled.

There was no sampling, that technology was just around the corner. I captured sounds into a delay effect (for the voice captures in “I’ll Meet You In Poland”), we made tape loops, I spun in sounds from cassettes.

TODAY IS THE FIRST OF SEPTEMBER

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I had created a lot of vocal tape loops by multi tracking my voice on 24 track. We then mixed these on to 1/4" tape in major and minor chords. We stretched the tape loop then I would "play" the tape machine as an instrument, pitching it with varispeed , and re-record that back onto the 24 track. I would mark the varispeed knob with a grease pencil to indicate the key notes that worked with the key of the song. Then those tape loop performances were submixed and bounced into an arrangement.

My favourite from Foetus '84 record Hole, an album I've played a lot listening to from a production perspective and trying to figure out how the hell he did a lot of that. This and Nail were a crucial influence on the music I make myself, and I make sure to send this song to all my friends on the 1st of September every year without fail.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 06, 2021, 08:38:01 PM
1000 Mexicans - The Last Pop Song

https://youtu.be/UipRyhfI1w4 (https://youtu.be/UipRyhfI1w4)

(https://e.snmc.io/i/600/w/4b096b24079b686f512c018100fdc303/2414918)

Active between 83 and 86, this is their second single. They released just a solitary album, Dance Like Ammunition, in 1985.
Described by one journalist as "the musical equivalent of the 70s Dutch team with their total football", the trio of Julian Griffin, Michael Harding and Andrew Hobday constantly rotated vocal and instrumental duties.
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Post by: daf on February 06, 2021, 09:45:30 PM
Elvis Costello and The Attractions - Worthless Thing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHvRCRP4MKo)

(https://i.imgur.com/mFEVBtw.jpg)

Penultimate track on Side 1 of the album "Goodbye Cruel World" - released in June 1984

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Elvis Costello : "I think the first time we ever got really attacked for a new release apart from when we first started was Goodbye Cruel World, and to be honest I knew it wasn't a good record by the time ... It was the only one I was tempted to ... I was committed to it. I'd spent too much money on it to not release it and I thought on balance the good things that I'd got wrong in the studio that were in the song writing probably outweighed the bad things that I'd allow to happen in the production, which is not distracting anything from the effort that Clive Langer made to do the best. I mean, I announced to them that it was the last record I was ever going to make before we went in the studio. I decided to quit for all kinds of weird personal reasons ...

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"I was really down about lots of other things and I really just decided I wanted to do this one record, and I was asking them to make a record they weren't really set up to do, which was essentially a 'live-in-the-studio' record. And then we had a loss of nerve about that and started to edge it back towards the kind of production they did anyway. But the damage had been done, we'd started out to record a folk-rock record, which is what it originally sounded like, which you can hear in some of the more soulful songs, like Home Truth, which is an unbelievably painful, true song. I made Clive Langer's life impossible, and I take full responsibility for the failure of the production, 'cause I was asking them one time to do one thing and the next to do another, and changing my mind every 15 minutes and driving everybody in the band mad. And really just getting it as wrong as you can in terms of the execution of what are basically a bunch of really good songs."

(https://i.imgur.com/XZeDXsr.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/xLJZu7e.jpg)

"Worthless Thing" was written when the mausoleum-builders of the T.V. and magazine trade had only just started catching lightning and turning it into a museum piece. It mentions a lot of things in passing: Game Shows, bodysnatchers, "Elvis Presley Wine", obsessives, cable television, and "an obituary... for every clockwork cat and conceivable kitten" but most of all it was about the lack of surprises. It is a pity that self-loathing wasn't more fashionable at the time."

(https://i.imgur.com/WRQmn9b.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/Ho34aAn.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/jJByBSe.jpg)

Elvis might think this is a stinker, but he's wrong - I love this!
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 06, 2021, 09:59:01 PM
Siouxsie and The Banshees - Belladonna

https://youtu.be/QlxUb5Me8wk (https://youtu.be/QlxUb5Me8wk)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0f/Siouxsie_%26_the_Banshees-Hyaena.jpg/220px-Siouxsie_%26_the_Banshees-Hyaena.jpg)

Taken from their Hyæna album, yet another channel for Robert Smith to appear in this list.
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Post by: Gregory Torso on February 06, 2021, 10:23:08 PM
Felt - Sunlight Bathed The Golden Glow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHKFL4NFnuk)

I'm just going to come out and say it right now and I know it won't go down well, but... I just can't get into Felt. I have tried. But Lawrence just doesn't do it for me... except for this song. And what a song.

(https://i.imgur.com/wVbQr9T.jpg)

I always listen to lyrics and the words here spike in hard about procrastination, self-doubt, creativity and facing up to reality. This is a non-album version of the song with added "exciting" bass intro, backing singers and string section and I utterly love it.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 06, 2021, 10:40:07 PM
Felt - Sunlight Bathed The Golden Glow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHKFL4NFnuk)

I'm just going to come out and say it right now and I know it won't go down well, but... I just can't get into Felt. I have tried. But Lawrence just doesn't do it for me... except for this song. And what a song.


I always listen to lyrics and the words here spike in hard about procrastination, self-doubt, creativity and facing up to reality. This is a non-album version of the song with added "exciting" bass intro, backing singers and string section and I utterly love it.

Great song. my preferred version is this demo included on Gold Mine Trash.

https://youtu.be/vLLqp4qurEE (https://youtu.be/vLLqp4qurEE)

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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 06, 2021, 10:42:04 PM
The Cult - Spiritwalker

https://youtu.be/fUKidMV2-Js (https://youtu.be/fUKidMV2-Js)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/30/The_cult_spiritwalker.jpg)

The band's origins can be traced to 1981, in Bradford, Yorkshire, where vocalist and songwriter Ian Astbury formed a band called Southern Death Cult. This was shortened twice, firstly to Death Cult and then The Cult. This is their first single under the new name and it made it into the Festive Fifty at number 30.
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Post by: daf on February 07, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
Comrade Livingstone, I presume . . .

Ken Livingston & The Flying Pickets ‎– Jobs For A Change (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaJ14hTR9H0)

(https://i.imgur.com/J7PhI5P.jpg)

Released as an orange flexi-disc - given away free in Time Out magazine and at the Jobs For A Change Festival at County Hall, Jubilee Gardens, South Bank, London on Sunday 10th June 1984.

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The Jobs for a Change festivals were two music festivals set up and produced by Tony Hollingsworth that took place in London in 1984 and 1985, against a background of high unemployment, a year-long miners' strike, and Margaret Thatcher's development plans for the abolition of the GLC. The first event took place over 12 hours on a Sunday on a long stretch of the South Bank, taking in County Hall, the Royal Festival Hall, the Queen Elizabeth Hall, the National Film Theatre, the National Theatre, the GLC car park and Jubilee Gardens.

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The music was presented from two stages. There were also theatrical groups, films and talks on film by, among others, director Ken Loach, and interviews with the actors from Alan Bleasdale's tough black comedy Boys from the Blackstuff. The festival's music was provided by a huge array of artists that included The Smiths, Billy Bragg, Hank Wangford, The Redskins, Aswad, Mari Wilson, Misty in Roots and Ivor Cutler. They were chosen because they were known to be supportive of the cause, either through their songs or in comments to the press, or because they were simply willing to appear under the Jobs for a Change banner.

(https://i.imgur.com/Q7coWPX.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/FT8EdvK.jpg)

One of the bands was the socialist a cappella group, The Flying Pickets. A few weeks earlier, Hollingsworth got the band to write a song called Give us Jobs, Jobs, Jobs for a Change, sung like a barber-shop quartet and with the speaking voice of GLC leader Ken Livingstone.

And yes, they "accidentally" managed to misspell Ken Livingstone's name on the disc. That's it - Everybody out!
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 07, 2021, 12:34:02 AM
The Jasmine Minks - Think!

https://youtu.be/ugY5r74OrYU (https://youtu.be/ugY5r74OrYU)

(https://img.discogs.com/K5gTYx6jS2AnNFVO8X6WoKP1eYc=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-1091616-1288345813.jpeg.jpg)

Formed in Aberdeen in 1983, the band were initially a quartet of Jim Shepherd (guitar/vocals), Adam Sanderson (vocals/guitar), Martin Keena(bass guitar), and Tom Reid (drums/vocals). They were recruited by Alan McGee to record for the fledgling Creation label. This is their debut single.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 07, 2021, 02:02:07 AM
Spinal Tap - Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You Tonight

(http://www.midnightonly.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/This-is-Spinal-Tap-1.jpg)

"Hello Cleveland!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZsUos50pls (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZsUos50pls)

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Lumbar puncture, also known as a spinal tap, is a medical procedure in which a needle is inserted into the spinal canal, most commonly to collect cerebrospinal fluid for diagnostic testing.

The main reason for a lumbar puncture is to help diagnose diseases of the central nervous system, including the brain and spine. Examples of these conditions include meningitis and subarachnoid hemorrhage. It may also be used therapeutically in some conditions.

Increased intracranial pressure (pressure in the skull) is a contraindication, due to risk of brain matter being compressed and pushed toward the spine. Sometimes, lumbar puncture cannot be performed safely (for example due to a severe bleeding tendency). It is regarded as a safe procedure, but post-dural puncture headache is a common side effect if a small atraumatic needle is not used.

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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 07, 2021, 02:12:17 AM
The Smiths - Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want

https://youtu.be/-T8R_VDTOYQ (https://youtu.be/-T8R_VDTOYQ)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/81/Williamitwasreallynothing_UKorig.gif)

B-side to the "William, It Was Really Nothing" single. It reached number 26 in the Festive Fifty, just three places behind the a-side.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 07, 2021, 02:32:42 AM
The Jesus and Mary Chain - Upside Down

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/89/f6/d4/89f6d43c49af2a7039f30768db15a88d.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnO41-rKUsc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnO41-rKUsc)

"Hello East Kilbride!"

The Jesus and Mary Chain had one idea, but what an amazing idea it was. Take the contagiously sugar-simple pop melodies of early Beach Boys and '60s girl groups and bury them beneath a constant sheet metal tsunami of dentist drill feedback. The Velvet Underground's I Heard Her Call My Name produced by Phil Spector with a cheap amphetamine headache.

Like the Ramones before them, they milked every last droplet of magic from their deliberately limited concept. It couldn't last, but that doesn't matter. They'd made their point. Those early records still sound incredible.

PLAY LOUD.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 07, 2021, 02:52:39 AM
R.E.M. - Harborcoat

https://youtu.be/bzco4ydP56o (https://youtu.be/bzco4ydP56o)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/32/R.E.M._-_Reckoning.jpg)

A hidden gem from their underrated second album, Reckoning.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 07, 2021, 03:06:57 AM
At the risk of sounding like that guy, I love early R.E.M. My favourite album of theirs is Automatic for the People, so I don't subscribe to the lazy notion that they lost it (man) once they became massive. But there's just something quite magical and mysterious about those early records, isn't there?

Also, they wrote catchy songs from the start, they were always commercially inclined. It's just that you could never make out what Stipe was singing. Which I liked.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 07, 2021, 03:29:15 AM
Yeah I do like the peak years to come but there's something 'smaller' and more compact about the early stuff that's allows me to relate to it in a closer way now than the later stuff.
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Post by: famethrowa on February 07, 2021, 05:44:38 AM
At the risk of sounding like that guy,

Well here's my notion, they lost it mostly after AFTP, then completely once the drummer left.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 07, 2021, 10:18:05 AM
Well here's my notion, they lost it mostly after AFTP, then completely once the drummer left.

This is correct.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 07, 2021, 10:57:19 AM
Hand On My Heart - Shriekback.  Released on Arista in 1984.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/Jq9gDM.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/jHEszu.jpg)

Former XTC keyboard player's band. Andy Partridge commented that the band in the late seventies were pulling in two directions. "There were two balding, egotistical control freaks called Andrew(s) and one of us had to go. So I stayed and Bazza jumped ship. He was always very unrhythmical in XTC so it was a real surprise to finally hear his new music".

Shriekback are an English post-punk band from Kentish Town, London, founded in 1981 by Dave Allen with Barry Andrews and Carl Marsh. In 1984 Martyn Barker joined the band as Drummer and Percussionist after having toured with them and played on various sessions before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJXeRATcw0Q&feature=emb_logo

This is a great track. I have the remix e.p., which has my favourite version by Adrian Sherwood on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4XV5oWczv4

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An ex girlfriend of mine had a cassette which she had made years previously when she was drunk and which was just marked 'Shriekback and Kabbala'. It had on it the same four pieces of music over and over in a different order each time, some starting at the wrong speed before she realised and corrected it as it was recording. These were the Sherwood remix, a couple of tracks by Kabbala (which I tacked on to the end of the first thread because they're from 1982) and a song which I think is by the Bhundu Boys. I compiled intact copies of each of the songs onto another cassette and listened to that for years before the internet made it easy to find out what the songs were.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 07, 2021, 11:03:20 AM
All of which bass goodness reminds me that this also came out in 1984:

400 Blows - Declaration of Intent (Black and White Mix Up)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGYfI9cU69Y

I prefer the original mix but this is the only mix I could find other than a YouTube video uploaded by some idiot who has slowed the original mix down by 12%.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 07, 2021, 11:16:08 AM
23 Skidoo - F.U.G.I.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JFoTiSecq8

A.K.A. Fuck You The Chemical Brothers. This is the first track off the album Urban Gamelan, which after the first two tracks wanders off into percussion heaven. A version of F.U.G.I. was released as the single Coup (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onD0588iia8), which I believe reached #3 in the Indie Chart.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 07, 2021, 11:32:43 AM
1984 was a good year for industrial music. Here's one from the second album by leftist metal-bashers Test Dept.:

Test Dept. - Spring into Action

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVk02bZeiT8
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 07, 2021, 11:58:29 AM
Girlfriend - The Jazz Butcher. Released on Glass in 1984.

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Another one of those many characters who stayed in the margins of indie rock. Nice sleeve art by Hunt Emerson there.

The Jazz Butcher formed in Oxford, UK, in 1982. From the outset both an alias of and a group project led by Pat Fish. Until 1986 companions included Max Eider, David J, Owen "O.P." Jones and Graham "Felix" Fudger. When signed to Creation Records from 1987/88 onwards, the ever-changing line-up consisted of Kizzy O'Callaghan, Laurence O'Keefe, Alex Green and Paul Mulreany to name but a few.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98pedlUdXbg&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 07, 2021, 12:09:46 PM
Scratch Acid - Owner's Lament

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROoq2rVsMNs

From the eponymously titled ep[1]. This was David Yow and David Wm. Sims's band before they formed The Jesus Lizard. It was difficult to choose a track from the ep because it's great from start to finish.
 1. fuck know's how this album length disc is considered an ep
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 07, 2021, 03:25:16 PM
The Membranes - Spike Milligan's Tape Recorder
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YexO3-acfw0

Birthday Party worship from John Robb's band before he became best known for Louder Than War, having a mohawk and appearing on the news whenever someone from Manchester has died. Blackpool Pleasure Avalanche? Kidding aside I do love The Membranes.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 07, 2021, 04:59:44 PM
The Cure - Forever (live)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RnBAiPS13U

The Cure released The Top in 1984, which, together with Happy the Man and Throw Your Foot (b-sides of the Caterpillar), is one of their more overlooked albums, IMO. However, I choose Forever from the Curiosity side of the Concert cassette, which bizarrely was never released as a studio recording. Also check out the incredibly aggressive version of Give Me It from Concert  - the version on The Top is a bit anaemic by comparison.



Happy The Man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljh8XsCwKL0

Throw Your Foot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ufB5swQz38

Give Me It (Live (1984)): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltvvyVB-AIA

There were more bizarre album and b-side tracks to come in 1985 and I imagine a parallel universe where the Cure didn't give in to the mawkish needs of their audience but went full-on broken psyche instead. I remember reading that during their time in The Glove, Smith and Steven Severin arrived in Australia so high on acid that they didn't know where they were. Smith should have remained under Severin's corrupting influence for longer, I reckon.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 07, 2021, 05:10:46 PM
I Scare Myself - Thomas Dolby Released on Parlophone in 1984. Didn't bother the top forty.

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Tom's woozy, jazzy cover of a Dan Hicks & The Hot Licks number. Proper romantic mixtape fodder for me and my girl back then.

Thomas Morgan Robertson (born 14 October 1958), known by the stage name Thomas Dolby, is an English musician, producer, entrepreneur and teacher. He came to prominence in the 1980s, releasing hit singles including "She Blinded Me with Science" (1982) and "Hyperactive!" (1984).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJVyCNucqeM&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 07, 2021, 05:15:20 PM
The Cult - Spiritwalker

https://youtu.be/fUKidMV2-Js (https://youtu.be/fUKidMV2-Js)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/30/The_cult_spiritwalker.jpg)

The band's origins can be traced to 1981, in Bradford, Yorkshire, where vocalist and songwriter Ian Astbury formed a band called Southern Death Cult. This was shortened twice, firstly to Death Cult and then The Cult. This is their first single under the new name and it made it into the Festive Fifty at number 30.

The Cult really were at the top of their game at this time. I've long since utterly rinsed Dreamtime and Love but I can still enjoy Dreamtime Live at the Lyceum. The old Southern Death Cult and Death Cult tracks that I find a bit plodding in their original form have been injected with a new energy and the whole concert still sounds exciting. Therefore, I choose...

The Cult - Ghost Dance (live)

(https://d1e9ycqe323hkh.cloudfront.net/items/323489807166.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEZh0-kJUCo

Happy Birthday, Nicky!
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 07, 2021, 05:24:33 PM
The Cure - Forever (live)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RnBAiPS13U

The Cure released The Top in 1984, which, together with Happy the Man and Throw Your Foot (b-sides of the Caterpillar), is one of their more overlooked albums, IMO. However, I choose Forever from the Curiosity side of the Concert cassette, which bizarrely was never released as a studio recording. Also check out the incredibly aggressive version of Give Me It from Concert  - the version on The Top is a bit anaemic by comparison.



Happy The Man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljh8XsCwKL0

Throw Your Foot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ufB5swQz38

Give Me It (Live (1984)): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltvvyVB-AIA

There were more bizarre album and b-side tracks to come in 1985 and I imagine a parallel universe where the Cure didn't give in to the mawkish needs of their audience but went full-on broken psyche instead. I remember reading that during their time in The Glove, Smith and Steven Severin arrived in Australia so high on acid that they didn't know where they were. Smith should have remained under Severin's corrupting influence for longer, I reckon.

Yeah loved that tape. They did do Forever for a Peel session and it popped up live in various forms for years.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 07, 2021, 06:38:20 PM
The Danse Society - Seen The Light

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFRCV0zQHn0

One of the b-sides from their rather excellent cover of 2000 Light Years From Home. I chose this over anything from the Heaven is Waiting lp because DRUMS. Also, it was probably the last good thing they recorded before getting involved with Stock, Aitken and Waterman.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 07, 2021, 06:40:31 PM
The Sisters of Mercy - Poison Door

https://youtu.be/Op3tsWHuxFQ (https://youtu.be/Op3tsWHuxFQ)

(https://sisterswiki.org/images/thumb/4/45/The_Peel_Sessions.jpg/400px-The_Peel_Sessions.jpg)

From their Peel session recorded on 19th June. the studio version featured on their debut album, First and Last and Always, released the following  year.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 07, 2021, 06:57:25 PM
As I mentioned upthread, 1984 was a good year for industrial music. At this point we entered the second wave.

Skinny Puppy - Glass Houses

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9zT6w0z-c0

From their second ep (or their first ep that wasn't self-released) Remission.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 07, 2021, 07:03:04 PM
The Triffids - Raining Pleasure

https://youtu.be/eCuUvNclXJA (https://youtu.be/eCuUvNclXJA)

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Formed in Perth in Western Australia in May 1978 by David McComb as singer-songwriter, guitarist, bass guitarist and keyboardist. They released their debut single in 1982 and an album, Treeless Plain, in 1983. This is their fourth single. They'd go onto release a further four albums before breaking up in 1989. David McComb died on 2 February 1999
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 07, 2021, 07:09:42 PM
Legendary Pink Dots - Poppy Day
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nw30aH7pFc

From 84's The Tower by Legendary Pink Dots, the band who make The Fall look lazy. I imagine when we get to 87 it'll be a race between me and Johnny Yesno as to who posts something off The Tear Garden's Tired Eyes Slowly Burning (Edward Ka-Spel from LPD and cEvin Key from Skinny Puppy).
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Post by: daf on February 07, 2021, 07:11:01 PM
Roland Rat Superstar ‎- Pink Bucket Song (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV_SIxEM6HI)

(https://i.imgur.com/Br61Wvf.jpg)

B-side of the single "Love Me Tender" released in April 1984 - reached #32 in the UK chart

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Introduced by Children's editor Anne Wood to give kids entertainment during the Easter holidays, Roland Rat first appeared on 1 April 1983 on the ailing breakfast television show TV-am, and is generally regarded as its saviour, being described as "the only rat to join a sinking ship". After a couple of months on TV-am, Roland took the audience from 100,000 to 1.8 million.

Roland lives beneath King's Cross railway station in The Ratcave. His colleagues include over-enthusiastic self-appointed "number one ratfan" Kevin the Gerbil, who is from Leeds and loves pink buckets, and dour Welsh technical whizz Errol the Hamster - who was gradually drafted in during the first year as a VT technician responsible for running the cartoons inserted into the show.

A spinoff single 'Rat Rapping' reached #14 in November 1983, and was followed by the 'Love Me Tender' in April 1984.

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Initially, Roland was featured as the host of The Shedvision Show, ostensibly broadcast from a wooden shack on the roof of TV-am's studios. On the strength of this, Roland was soon given a regular slot every morning introducing cartoons for younger viewers. Roland Rat's golden age on TV-am was the period from summer 1983 until summer 1985. During this period, Roland and friends would feature in a half-hour episode transmitted on school holiday weekdays on TV-am from 9.00am. The school summer holidays of 1983 and 1984 saw Rat on the Road in which Roland and Kevin would spend each week in a different town of the United Kingdom. One notable highlight during this period was the visit of Austrian racing driver Roland Ratzenberger who appeared on the show in a motor race against the Ratmobile ending with Ratzenberger's car being sabotaged by his near-namesake.

Errol eventually joined Roland and Kevin on location at Christmas in 1983 for Roland's Winter Wonderland which saw Roland, Kevin and Errol enjoying a skiing holiday together in Switzerland. The half-term week of October 1984 saw Operation FOGI (Free Our Glenis Immediately) which revolved around the gang's attempts – eventually successful – to liberate Glenis The Guinea Pig from her life in the pets department of Harrods.

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Christmas 1984 saw Roland's Countdown to Christmas, featuring Roland and friends singing a rewritten version of "The Twelve Days of Christmas" featuring such paraphernalia associated with the show as Kevin's pink bucket, Errol's favourite leek pie and a Roland Rat Superstar cap. TV-AM sold Roland Rat advent calendars, with Roland opening each door with the viewers at 7.20am every day, The final door had Roland and his friends in the snow.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 07, 2021, 07:25:38 PM
A mini pink theme developing here. Kicking myself for forgetting Pink Industry's 1983 album Low Technology until now.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 07, 2021, 08:16:28 PM
Lloyd Cole & The Commotions - Rattlesnakes

https://youtu.be/gSc46sEZdl4 (https://youtu.be/gSc46sEZdl4)

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Title track of their debut album and their third single (amazingly only reaching number 65 in the UK charts - what a world we lived in)
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 07, 2021, 08:49:05 PM
Neil - My White Bicycle

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzHjvMKgIpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzHjvMKgIpg)

The morose hippie's flop follow-up to Hole in My Shoe (which almost got to number one) is a cover of the none more '67 psychedelic underground classic by Tomorrow.

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Neil's Heavy Concept Album is a 1984 recording of songs and spoken comedy routines by British actor Nigel Planer, in character as Neil from the BBC comedy series The Young Ones. Production, arrangements and keyboards are by Canterbury scene keyboardist Dave Stewart (Egg; Hatfield in the North), who also plays guitar, bass and drums. Other players on the album include ex-members of Gong, Spooky Tooth and Level 42.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 07, 2021, 09:18:02 PM
The Waterboys - A Pagan Place

https://youtu.be/QSA44RHq1T4 (https://youtu.be/QSA44RHq1T4)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1b/A_Pagan_Place_Waterboys_Album_Cover.jpg)

Formed in Edinburgh in 1983 by Scottish musician Mike Scott, they released their first single, A Girl Called Johnny, in March of the same year. This is the title track of their second album, released in June.
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Post by: daf on February 07, 2021, 10:00:00 PM
The Stranglers - North Winds (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WRnNay9rF4)

(https://i.imgur.com/4602Gwo.jpg)

Closing track of side 1 on the album 'Aural Sculpture' - released in November 1984

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Following their 1982 Epic debut Feline, the band started work on tracks for the follow up album early in 1984. An initial batch of demos was presented to Epic by the band and, disappointed with what they heard, the record company suggested drafting in producer Laurie Latham to help develop the tracks.

Jean-Jacques Burnel : ‘Muff Winwood suggested that we bring him in as we needed more of a producer other than just ourselves. He knew Laurie from his success with Paul Young on the same label so he brought him in’.

The band and Laurie decamped to ICP Studios in Brussels, where they had previously recorded Feline, and set to work honing the existing songs and writing new material for possible inclusion on the album. Laurie’s broad musical ideas allowed the band to expand their horizons and he suggested that certain tracks could be further enhanced by the addition of a brass section and backing singers.

Jean-Jacques Burnel : ‘Laurie took control really and he singlehandedly changed everything because he suggested that we bring in a brass section and backing vocalists too. Hugh was much more into the idea of brass than I was. I thought that it was quite a novel thing to do and I could see the R’n’B aspect to it, which I didn’t object to at all. It was quite a big departure for us’.

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For Dave, the introduction of the brass altered his input into the recording process, especially with limitations to the keyboard sounds available at that time:

Dave Greenfield : ‘It made my life easier.  The keyboard brass sounds in those days were nowhere near as good as they are now.  A brass player will always have a better feel for the part and also write better parts for their instruments, rather than a keyboard player writing for a brass person’.

Under the producer’s influence, the addition of extra musicians altered the feel of the songs and gave the album a generally more soulful sound. Laurie also made suggestions to the band about their contributions, for example, that Dave should dust off his Hammond for certain songs.

Dave Greenfield : ‘I don’t remember it being his suggestion but I’ve always enjoyed playing the Hammond!  It is one of my favourite keyboards’.

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With the album completed, and given the title Aural Sculpture, after their tongue-in-cheek manifesto given away with Feline, a release date of November was set. Out of the eleven songs selected, JJ’s lyrical contribution was a solitary track North Winds, although he had provided lots of the riffs and melodies on the album.

Jean-Jacques Burnel : ‘I don’t think that there was any conscious attempt to exclude my songs, it’s just how it happened at the time. That’s the strength of The Stranglers is that there was more than one songwriter, there were two main songwriters. Aural Sculpture was dominated by Hugh to be honest. I always got brow beaten or outvoted, Jet was more supportive of Hugh over me. Everyone seemed to think that I was the pretty boy and Hugh was the talent then. They didn’t realise the contribution I made and maybe that was my fault as I let Hugh be the spokesman all that time’.

To underline the aural focus of the album, sculptor John King was commissioned to construct a huge ear sculpture to help promote the release. Despite being made of fibreglass, the ear appeared to have been chiselled from a massive block of solid stone. A photo session was arranged for the album cover featuring the band, dressed in both their own clothes as well as various costumes, gathered around the ear in London’s Trafalgar Square.

(https://i.imgur.com/uz8VBHR.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/UqRaGGO.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/S73DAtq.jpg)

In an era where ownership of personal computers was blossoming, keen gamer Dave also suggested that the cassette of the album could include a Stranglers related computer game as an extra ‘track’. The idea behind Aural Quest was born. Designed for the ZX Spectrum the game’s coding could be downloaded onto computer to allow the user to access an adventure game searching for parts of the ear in various band related locations.

(https://i.imgur.com/MsRwf3y.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/NdXbOJF.jpg) 

Dave Greenfield : ‘The programing of Aural Quest was left to our friend, Tops.  It was done on an adventure writing program on the Spectrum.  However, Pam & I designed the strategy and scenario of the game’.

(https://i.imgur.com/0Ju1hKq.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/XzGTPia.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/KtXRpFP.jpg)

The release of Aural Sculpture was quite a shock to the system at the time, dividing opinions of both fans and critics. For many loyal, long term fans, their band had changed beyond recognition from the punk heyday of ’77.

Jean-Jacques Burnel : ‘It hasn’t aged as well as some albums, it’s all really Eighties production. The songs got compromised by a company man who came in with a brief to follow. It’s no one’s fault, certainly not Laurie’s. The brass extended the width of what we’ve done as a band, another little cul de sac that we persisted with for five years. It adds to the rich tapestry of the Stranglers’ history, adding a bit more weight to the band’s CV. Some experiments work and others don’t. I think that it worked pretty well. Am I proud of that period? No particularly. It’s not our most glorious period, but it’s another dimension to the band if you look back at it’.

Masterpiece!
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Post by: famethrowa on February 07, 2021, 10:09:16 PM
Neil - My White Bicycle


Loved the Heavy Concept album, except I first heard it in 1987! It had a lovely dark shiny Hitchhiker's Guide type sound, and it was the first time I'd heard those 60s songs.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 07, 2021, 10:14:25 PM
Loved the Heavy Concept album, except I first heard it in 1987! It had a lovely dark shiny Hitchhiker's Guide type sound, and it was the first time I'd heard those 60s songs.

Yeah, it's really well-produced. Hats off to Dave Stewart (not that one). It's definitely not a throwaway cash-in comedy record, they clearly put a lot of work into it.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 07, 2021, 11:15:41 PM
Killing Joke - Blue Feather

https://youtu.be/moShga3Mw2A (https://youtu.be/moShga3Mw2A)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mTPXl3ipyi0/hqdefault.jpg)

Recorded for a Kid Jensen session in April and never officially released at the time, which is surprising considering it was lined up as a potential single.
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Post by: daf on February 08, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
Kevin The Gerbil ‎– Summer Holiday (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqFlw31Pk4w)

(https://i.imgur.com/LThy295.jpg)

Released in July 1984 - reached #50 in the UK chart

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Roland Rat was created, operated and voiced by David Claridge, who had previously designed and operated Mooncat, a puppet in the Children's ITV television programme Get Up and Go!. Claridge worked for Jim Henson, and on the second series of The Young Ones.

In 1984, Roland Rat released two versions of his debut album : 'The Cassette of the Album' on vinyl, and 'The Album' on tape casette. The cassette recording claimed to be the LP recording, and vice versa; spoken word sketches at the starts and ends of the sides on both releases revealed this to have been the result of a mix-up which could not be rectified for financial reasons. Each of the main characters contributed a song: Kevin the Gerbil's were "My Roland" and "Pink Bucket Reggae", Reggie's song was "It's Great Here, Innit", and Errol the Hamster contributed "Leeks Are Wonderful, Leeks Are Nice". Kevin the Gerbil also had a top 50 single with "Summer Holiday'.

(https://i.imgur.com/4rKndT4.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/IGkz6Nh.jpg)

On 3 October 1985, Roland Rat transferred to the BBC, for a three-year contract, which ended up being extended to six years. Roland said, "I saved TVam and now I'm here to save the BBC." Roland made a number of series during his time at the BBC, most notably Roland Rat the Series, a chat show set in Roland's sewer home, now converted into a high-tech media centre called the Ratcave. The show would intersperse the chat show segments with a storyline involving some sort of situation "behind the scenes". Roland also made two spoof drama series, Tales of the Rodent Sherlock Holmes, in which he played Holmes with Kevin as Dr Watson, and Ratman, a Batman spoof with Kevin as his sidekick, "Pink Bucket Man".

(https://i.imgur.com/ep54TMn.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/u2PfNAT.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/7xNxE2v.jpg)

In 1985, Ocean Software produced a game called Roland's Rat Race for the ZX Spectrum and Commodore 64. The player had to guide Roland through the sewers of London and collect nine pieces of a door which, when complete, would allow him to rescue his companions in time for an appearance on TV-am. Roland had to avoid enemies in the form of animated wellington boots which could be temporarily incapacitated with a squirt of glue, which could also be used to stop tube trains in order to ride on them.

(https://i.imgur.com/IfPKwCx.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/t1hT6wG.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/hUHIQns.jpg)

The second album Living Legend, released in 1986, was produced by Stock Aitken Waterman for BBC Records incorporating the theme tune and songs used in Roland Rat The Series.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 08, 2021, 12:32:30 AM
Killing Joke - Blue Feather

https://youtu.be/moShga3Mw2A (https://youtu.be/moShga3Mw2A)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mTPXl3ipyi0/hqdefault.jpg)

Recorded for a Kid Jensen session in April and never officially released at the time, which is surprising considering it was lined up as a potential single.

I'm getting 'This video is not available' from that link. Wtf does that even mean, YouTube? Trying to be the Residents, are we? Here's an alternative: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw3qKW8wAbc. Good tune. I've not heard it before.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 08, 2021, 03:03:58 AM
Dave Stewart (not that one).

He really should have changed his official name that.
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Post by: famethrowa on February 08, 2021, 03:27:08 AM
He really should have changed his official name that.

As Michael Bolton (not that one) said in Office Space: "Why should I change? He's the one that sucks"
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 08, 2021, 03:50:27 AM
The Kinks - Missing Persons

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uHkt4mBrX_E/hqdefault.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-jeCez_2Qw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-jeCez_2Qw)

An appalling album cover, and the contents of Word of Mouth aren't much better, but this brief, stark song written from the perspective of parents pleading for the return of their missing/abducted child is devastating. That sensitivity, that genius, it still existed within Ray Davies in 1984.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 08, 2021, 09:36:01 AM
Nice try, BBB! That's a picture of Chris Morris and I bet the link takes you to that Jam sketch.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 08, 2021, 01:54:19 PM
Blackout Of Gretely - The Fuzztones Released on Midnight in 1984.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/IsifGa.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/5GUwDB.jpg)

Fruggin' fantastic!

The Fuzztones were a garage rock band founded by singer-guitarist Rudi Protrudi, Deb O'Nair on organ and Elan Portnoy -on guitar in New York City. The band has gone through several member changes but is currently active in Europe. Dismissed by some critics and listeners as a "bar band" or unoriginal, they maintained a strong fan base in New York, in Europe (with their music being played on Hungarian State Radio), and in Los Angeles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AspBAhvyrQk&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: gilbertharding on February 08, 2021, 02:21:46 PM
The universe is permeated with the odor of kerosine.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 08, 2021, 03:07:08 PM
Blackout Of Gretely - The Fuzztones Released on Midnight in 1984.

You just got this one posted in time, then.
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 08, 2021, 04:19:16 PM
Nice try, BBB! That's a picture of Chris Morris and I bet the link takes you to that Jam sketch.

I thought that about this picture of Yellowman that Brundle-Fly posted earlier.


Mi Believe/ Summer Holiday -Yellowman. Released on Greensleeves in 1984.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/UZrKAR.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_c6qmxnt1U
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 08, 2021, 05:22:29 PM
Nice try, BBB! That's a picture of Chris Morris and I bet the link takes you to that Jam sketch.

Damn, you (really) got me!
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 08, 2021, 06:11:58 PM
I thought that about this picture of Yellowman that Brundle-Fly posted earlier.

Oh, yeah. Good spot. Morris is cunning.

Damn, you (really) got me!

Karma :-D
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on February 08, 2021, 07:14:10 PM
Nick Lowe - Half a Boy and Half a Man (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksOzvYYHW48)

(https://i.imgur.com/UgIOjDx.jpg)

Released in May 1984 - reached #53 in the UK chart

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The 1984 album 'Nick Lowe and His Cowboy Outfit' marked the official debut of Lowe's new band, The Cowboy Outfit, which included Martin Belmont on guitar, Paul Carrack on keyboards & backing vocals, and Bobby Irwin on drums & backing vocals. As was traditional, Lowe handled the bass. The album also featured guest contributions from Billy Bremner on guitar, Bobby Valentino on fiddle, and the TKO Horns : Paul Speare & Jeff Blythe – sax / Jimmy Paterson – trombone / Dave Plews – trumpet.

The album incorporated more of a roots rock feel than Lowe's previous albums, including nods to 1950s guitar instrumentals, country music via a cover of Faron Young's "Live Fast, Love Hard, Die Young", and Tex-Mex music in the opening track, and extracted single, "Half a Boy and Half a Man" - which was glowingly reviewed by Rat Scabies in Melody Maker.

(https://i.imgur.com/kvlKAh4.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/0I9SrId.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/6Z8RZOl.jpg)

Other notable tracks include the soul-influenced "L.A.F.S."— which was co-produced and arranged by Elvis Costello and a cover of Mickey Jupp's "You'll Never Get Me Up in One of Those", which had been previously recorded by Lowe's former Rockpile bandmate Dave Edmunds. Despite good reviews, Nick Lowe and His Cowboy Outfit only reached No. 113 on the Billboard 200.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 08, 2021, 08:01:18 PM
The BusBoys - Cleanin' Up the Town

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUbo9i20zGY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUbo9i20zGY)

(https://img.discogs.com/OnDjxBxAyOpydsvjOT7vK4avfpY=/fit-in/600x585/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-5806115-1403182442-1418.jpeg.jpg)

The other song from Ghostbusters (1984 ghostbusting film) was never a hit, but fans of the film will recognise it.

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The BusBoys are best known for their appearance in the 1982 film 48 Hrs, in which they performed their songs New Shoes and The Boys Are Back in Town (the latter song is also heard over the closing credits). The band opened for the film's costar, comedian Eddie Murphy, during his subsequent Delirious stand-up comedy tour—during which he referred to them throughout the show —including an hour-long special that aired on HBO. On 29th January 1983, the BusBoys were musical guests on an episode of Saturday Night Live with Murphy singing background vocals.

A follow-up song, Cleanin' Up the Town, written for the soundtrack to the 1984 film Ghostbusters, reached #68 on Billboard's Hot 100 Singles chart in the United States.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 08, 2021, 08:50:23 PM
Last calls for 1984, 1985 will start later on Tuesday.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 08, 2021, 09:26:51 PM
Guadalcanal Diary - Watusi Rodeo

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/VEsAAOSwSGRf~lz6/s-l300.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtD3NUxhT8E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtD3NUxhT8E)

I've had this one earmarked for 1984, but I've only just found out that it was originally released as the lead track on an EP in 1983. However, it's also on their debut album from 1984, so if the panel will indulge me...

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Guadalcanal Diary were an American alternative jangle pop group. They originated in Marietta, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta, but they were often billed as being "from Athens, Georgia," in the early 1980s. The band formed in 1981 and disbanded in 1989.



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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 08, 2021, 09:34:59 PM
Err, I feel I should point out that Watusi Rodeo is an anti-colonialism song, even though the heavily ironic lyrics sound quite dodgy at first. I obviously wouldn't recommend a piece of music by a bunch of daft racists. Just wanted to clarify. Cheers.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on February 08, 2021, 10:00:00 PM
XTC - Train Running Low On Soul Coal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7C_YkZ91D8)

(https://i.imgur.com/zzdngGc.jpg)

Closing track on the album "The Big Express" - originally released in a limited edition round sleeve in October 1984

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Andy Partridge : "I think I was 29 when I wrote this, but I thought, "Nope, by the time I get this recorded, I'm going to be 30, surely. I was really confused about what I was supposed to be doing. You know, in terms of, "Well, that's my touring career out of the way. I don't want to do that any more. We just made an album that didn't sell very well" -- that was Mummer. "We're about to make another one that probably won't sell very well, and Virgin are getting fed up with us and starting to grumble about potentially not carrying on with us. I know that I was messing around with an open-E tuning. Most of the Big Express album is on open-E tuning -- not all of it, but the majority of it. While Steve Nye was doing his mixes for Mummer, in AIR Studios, in Oxford Street in London, I took myself into a little isolation booth at the back of the control room, which was there for doing voiceovers or vocals or trumpet or whatever. While he was messing with the mix -- I can still see people sat around in the studio, with Steve Nye at the mixing desk -- I took a guitar in there and worked on this song. So, as one album was getting finished, the next one was being born.

Dave Gregory : "I came to acquire a lovely Epiphone Riviera guitar in London during January 1983. XTC were ensconced in a sound suite at AIR Studios on Oxford Circus, mixing tracks with Steve Nye for our forthcoming album, Mummer. Returning to the studio, having collected the guitar, I found Andy hunched in a tiny vocal hut in a corner of the room strumming a funky chord riff on his guitar. He immediately insisted on checking out my new purchase, expressed his admiration, then had me tune it to an open chord of E, saying "try these chords!" I dutifully complied, and we spent a good half-hour jamming on the riff that would form the basis for another fantastic song, "Train Running Low On Soul Coal."

(https://i.imgur.com/QnWW89T.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/nlSY7Oa.jpg)

Andy : "I think the music stuff came up first, and it made me think of a train. I was trying to remember where I came up with the idea for that riff. As I say, it's an open-E tuning, but I've got a funny feeling that I was dicking around with the Rolling Stones song, "Can't You Hear Me Knocking?", which is on Sticky Fingers, I think. It's the lick underneath the title phrase that I think I was messing around with -- I think it's a similar tuning, it's tuned to a set chord, and so when you play the shapes you get those intervals. I was just moving two strings over at a time, and found something that I though kind of sounded like a train. The fact that it sounded like a train prompted me to spew out all these lyrics about me being the train. I think this was the first song I wrote for The Big Express. Like I said, it was while we were working on Mummer that this fell out. It sort of set a mental pattern. I think I subconsciously wanted the whole album to be about trains, and me as a train, coming from a town that was all about trains. Although, as more songs came out, it was not totally in the concept -- I guess "Smalltown" is in the concept. In fact, thinking about it, the whole Big Express album is the nearest we've ever been to a concept record."

Dave : "I don't remember whether he had a title or any lyrics at this point, but the riff alone made it a more-than-worthy contender for a future project. I had assumed it would be an acoustic song with a sort of futuristic skiffle motif, and the following summer we performed a version of it in that style in a band shell in a Swindon park, for the television programme "Play At Home."

Andy : "'Play at Home' was pretty much made immediately after we finished the Mummer album, so this song was still brand-new at the time. It was just basically the riff, with the idea that "I'm a train, I'm slowing down, I'm losing coal, I'm losing speed, I'm stuck on these rails here." So what you're getting is a little window into a song that's in the process of being written across those weeks, really. Dave really liked it, so I think it was Dave who suggested we do it for the camera. We did it at the one-third-sized Hollywood Bowl copy that we have in the Swindon Town Gardens."

(https://i.imgur.com/OTPP1k1.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/sf0t1zW.jpg)

Dave : "In the interim Andy had written a brilliant middle section, complete with a lyric that could not have been more apposite for a struggling pop band entering their thirties. It remains among my favourite of all the things he wrote, and I gladly put my Rickenbacker 12-string to work for the huge, plangent sequence of double-tracked chords that set up the vocal lines."

Andy : "during the bridge, when I listened through it today, I got quite choked up. I was thinking, "Whoa -- where did that come from? Why the hell is this making me feel choky here?" I was just thrown back to the time when I wrote the thing, and I was feeling, as you say, that "all your servants are leaving" -- all my faculties were slowly going."

Dave : "Another contribution I made to the track came in the form of an American train whistle using the centre pickup of a 1966 Stratocaster plugged through the demonically loud Marshall bass amp, and playing a four-note diminished chord. By "bowing" the attack using the guitar's volume control, I was able to get a reasonable simulation by simultaneously leaning on the tremolo bar."

Andy : "Dave's doing the guitar "train whistles." That's his little party piece, making his guitar sound like a train. I think he was embarrassed even mentioning it. [mimics Dave] "I think I can make a sound like a train -- do you want to hear it? It's very corny -- you won't want to use it." And of course, as soon as he did it, it was, "Fuck! That's great! You've got to play that!" I think he was a bit embarrassed it was such a hit with the band. [laughs] "That's great! Let's do it every time!" [Dave again] "Oh, really? Oh, come along." You do it with a whammy bar -- you hit the chord, and then you bend down just the right amount, on just the right chord, and it becomes one of those American train whistles.

(https://i.imgur.com/JQgWP0j.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/p0DRK1X.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/RNUaDPu.jpg)

Dave : "I confess I was initially put off by the Linn Drum treatment we ended up recording for The Big Express in the spring of 1984; Andy had decided that it was to be as relentlessly steely as "Roads Girdle the Globe" had been, so inevitably the gentle funk of the acoustic strummage was replaced with what sounded more like a musical scrap-metal plant. I've said it before, but The Big Express could certainly do with re-mastering properly, if not a complete re-mix. "Train Running Low" I think met Andy's expectations, though for me it's the essence of un-easy listening -- bad mood music, and not for the curious or faint-hearted. Thank goodness the Dukes arrived in time to cheer us all up."

Heavy metal!
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jamiefairlie on February 08, 2021, 10:00:57 PM
" I obviously wouldn't recommend a piece of music by a bunch of daft racists."


Yeah but that's exactly what a racist would say isn't! We see you, do better!

You're probably, literally, a Nazi too (although that would make you quite old.....err....stop deliberately confusing me you anti-semite Corbyn TERF!)

We now return you to our regularly scheduled program....
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Post by: famethrowa on February 08, 2021, 10:03:49 PM
The BusBoys - Cleanin' Up the Town


Love it, probably not "hit" material for 1984 tastes, but I imagine Dan Aykroyd was pleased to have some Blues Brothers style swing amongst the synthy business.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 08, 2021, 10:04:45 PM
" I obviously wouldn't recommend a piece of music by a bunch of daft racists."


Yeah but that's exactly what a racist would say isn't! We see you, do better!

You're probably, literally, a Nazi too (although that would make you quite old.....err....stop deliberately confusing me you anti-semite Corbyn TERF!)

We now return you to our regularly scheduled program....

I can only apologise for derailing this splendid thread with my rabid bigotry. It will not happen again.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: The Culture Bunker on February 08, 2021, 10:06:16 PM
Like pretty much every XTC album, I wasn't all that taken at first and needed a fair few listens before it clicked in my head - 'Train Running Low on Soul Coal' was kind of my entry point, though, the first song on it that I thought "ah, yeah, that's fantastic". And that brings the domino effect of the whole album becoming clear.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 08, 2021, 10:08:26 PM
Love it, probably not "hit" material for 1984 tastes, but I imagine Dan Aykroyd was pleased to have some Blues Brothers style swing amongst the synthy business.

Yeah, it's right up Aykroyd's alley (whoops, pardon), although I suspect he was probably responsible for hiring Ray Parker Jr too. The Ghostbusters theme tune is very 1984, in an utterly fantastic way, but Parker was a soul man at heart.
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on February 08, 2021, 10:10:31 PM
but Parker was a soul man at heart.
Or a Huey Lewis fan, at the very least.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 08, 2021, 10:17:20 PM
Or a Huey Lewis fan, at the very least.

It's a blatant steal, yes, but Parker improves upon the original. Here's the Huey Lewis song we're talking about, in case anyone hasn't heard it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6uEMOeDZsA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6uEMOeDZsA)

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When the theme song of Ghostbusters was released, Huey Lewis sued Columbia Pictures and Ray Parker Jr. for copyright infringement, stating that Parker's song was too similar to Lewis's I Want a New Drug. Before Parker was hired to do it, Lewis had been approached to compose the main theme song for the film.

The three parties settled out of court. Details of the settlement (specifically, that Columbia paid Lewis a settlement) remained confidential until 2001, when Lewis commented on the payment in an episode of VH1's Behind the Music. Parker subsequently sued Lewis for breaching confidentiality. Parker in a Reddit AMA said he "got a lot of money out of that."

In a 2004 article, the filmmakers admitted to using the song I Want a New Drug as temporary background music in many scenes. They also noted that they had offered to hire Huey Lewis and the News to write the main theme but the band had declined. The filmmakers then gave film footage – with the Huey Lewis song in the background – to Ray Parker Jr., to aid Parker in writing the theme song.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 08, 2021, 10:19:09 PM
I can only apologise for derailing this splendid thread with my rabid bigotry. It will not happen again.

:-)
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 08, 2021, 10:23:04 PM
One More Drink Bartender - The Chevalier Brothers. Released on Waterfront in 1984.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/eMmB2P.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/SFoZQV.jpg)

Ok, hardly the futuristic sounds of 1984 but a live fave of mine as a student. The frontman, Ray Gelato was an absolute dude, I might add.

The Chevalier Brothers were a jumpin' jive jazz band from London. Originally a busking band around Portobello Road and Camden Market. As a three piece, they won an NME busking competition in the summer of 1982 and decided to expand the band and play in clubs & pubs. They were one of the hottest club acts in London around the mid-80s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI8rkIhqBgc&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jobotic on February 08, 2021, 11:20:00 PM
Franco Battiato & Alice - I Treni di Tozeur

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2a/Alice_%26_Battiato_-_I_Treni_Di_Tozeur_%28ITA%29.jpg/200px-Alice_%26_Battiato_-_I_Treni_Di_Tozeur_%28ITA%29.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFpyhzQVhPk

Italy's 1984 Eurovision entry - 5th, 70 points. Battiato had spent most of the seventies recording obscure experimental electronic records, and Guisto Pio who arranged the strings had made this beautiful piece of minimalism 6 years before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMO-aAiT0wk
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on February 09, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
Lenny Henry ‎– Katanga (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Bm7XlLrYY)

(https://i.imgur.com/esiwvcD.jpg)

Featured on the album 'Stand Up...Get Down' - released in 1984

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Three of a Kind was a British comedy sketch starring Lenny Henry, Tracey Ullman, and David Copperfield. Three series were made by the BBC between 1981 and 1983.

(https://i.imgur.com/HU2NBdw.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/YwRlYxw.jpg)

Lenny Henry : "I once did a Zimbabwean comedian [character] with a grass skirt and tribal markings. A man from Nigeria who was working at LWT said to me, 'Len, are you from Africa? Do you know what Katanga means? Do you know where Katanga is? Then why are you playing a Zimbabwean character?'. If he had been on my production team, then I wouldn't have done that character," Henry points out. "But if you have a monoculture you will get these things happening all the time."

(https://i.imgur.com/WaJoPk2.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/c5xgnrK.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/cvsvxGh.jpg)

Ullman launched a brief but successful pop career in 1983 before starring in the ITV sitcom Girls On Top in 1985 and then going on to a high-profile career on American television. Henry was given his own BBC series The Lenny Henry Show. Copperfield worked on his own shows, Coppers & Co and Copperfield Comedy Company. He then worked on cruise liners as an entertainer under the name "David Copperfield – Not the Magician".
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 09, 2021, 09:26:20 AM
The Fall- Lay of the Land (with Michael Clark dancers)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cVegCDlbkA
(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/dancer-michael-clark-and-singer-and-lyricist-mark-e-smith-of-the-fall-picture-id85618715?s=594x594)
The Fall's first collaboration with choreographer Michael Clark was this TV performance of this track from the "Wonderful and Frightening World of the Fall" LP. They'd go on to work with him again on a full length ballet show in 1988.
(Profuse and tearful apologies for what looks more like a 1988 picture above).
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 09, 2021, 11:19:53 AM
Divine Sounds- What People Do For Money
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb3TgyF1Zbc&feature=emb_logo
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.i4nyfPqCN0-isqsC9NoL4AEgDY?w=201&h=180&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7)(https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.GIU4SJHZ_7kmhXXq0Ij-egAAAA&w=124&h=160&c=8&rs=1&qlt=90&pid=3.1&rm=2)
Brooklyn-based hip-hop group's lament for the struggles people have to go through. It's weird how the later crass materialism in hip-hop seemed to somehow grow out of these kind of life-is-tough rhymes. With 2021 ears it sounds like the rappers are deliberately imitating the delivery style of Run DMC, but I don't know if the chronology of that's quite right. I really like the way the bloke delivers the word "sad" in the repeated refrain leading into the chorus.

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Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 09, 2021, 11:23:44 AM
Dr John- Jet Set
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz4o2tWp8Vw

New Orleans pianist and singer Dr John The Night Tripper had been making his own unique style of voodoo-influenced soul music since the 60's. On his first appearance in the thread he makes a not wholly unconvincing attempt to jump on the electro-hip-hop bandwagon.
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.SNWKA-dXfOXLwWFDJpuuGQAAAA?w=199&h=199&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7)
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 09, 2021, 11:31:16 AM
Syncbeat- Music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSiH8aJt4ko
(https://i1.wp.com/blog.gregwilson.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Syncbeat-Music.png)


The collagey samples on this, electro track, which features on one of the banger-filled Street Sounds Electro compilations, was put together by a Manchester group featuring future Ruthless Rap Assassin and Black Grape man Kermit. The collagey quality, especially the repeated sample of an African-sounding vocal group in the second half seems to prefigure the denser sampledelic use of edits that would become more common in the following years.

Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: poodlefaker on February 09, 2021, 11:38:14 AM
Someone  more knowledgeable and cleverer than me could probably express this better, but  that Fall/Michael Clark Whistle Test performance made a big impression on me as a 14 yr old and remains for me one of the greatest examples of UK 80s culture (counter culture, youth culture?). I love the way it's very funny (although not in the way Mark Ellen chortles at it) but played absolutely straight and the  dancers are expert and brilliant. MES and the band on top form too: the whole thing is perfectly executed.
I know  nothing  about ballet and am not even a big Fall fan, but i reckon that nearly everything that's great about British music/style/comedy/TV/politics is encapsulated by that clip.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Hooverbag Sherlocks on February 09, 2021, 01:51:58 PM
Syncbeat- Music

Ha, I've logged on to post exactly that little gem. I'm pretty sure all the music on the 'UK Electro' release was performed by the DJ Greg Wilson, Martin Jackson (ex-Magazine) and Andy Cornell (ex-A Certain Ratio), the latter two then moving on to sophisti-pop success with Swing Out Sister. I think Wilson himself has said he regards it as a bit of a precursor to the DJ-led cut and paste jobs that cluttered the mid to late 80s. Regardless, it has buckets of charm in its own right and that persistent staccato bassline is very hard to resist even now, thirty-odd years later.

From my reserve list:
KONK - Your Life
Single released by Fourth & Broadway, 1984

(https://i.imgur.com/yaqQQRC.jpg)

Quote from: Discogs
Formed in 1980 in New York City, KONK was a band that emerged during a period marked by the post-punk/new wave and disco scenes which were prevalent at the time. KONK won the attention of both scenes by playing a hybrid of the two musical styles which involved the blending of a new wave attitude with the carefree nature of disco's dance crowd. KONK's musical influences ranged from Afrobeat, jazz, and funk to hip hop. Given these influence KONK's style is noted as being highly percussive, and containing simple, yet strong, backing bass lines. As part of New York’s post-punk dance scene they regularly played alongside groups such as Liquid Liquid, Bush Tetras, ESG, The Peech Boys and The Lounge Lizards. They have been featured in a book by David Byrne and others on the New York post-punk scene.

Cut from similar, but less eccentric, cloth to George Kranz’s ‘Din Daa Daa’ mentioned earlier in this thread. Shot through with a synth bass-line that [warning] can also never be evicted from the brain once it’s taken up residency.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQJby3HQMAM


Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on February 09, 2021, 02:00:27 PM
Arthur Somerset & The Turkeys Of Sloane ‎– OK. YA! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur4v3qDMFGg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wRL6qQa.jpg)

Co-written and produced by Pete Waterman. Released in March 1984 - did not chart.

Quote
Peter Alan Waterman left school in 1962 to work for British Railways. He became a steam locomotive fireman based at Wolverhampton (Stafford Road) depot : "I loved every minute of it. The squalor was unreal, but the camaraderie was phenomenal." After closure of the depot in 1963, Waterman chose to follow a career in music. Building a record collection through rare US imports, his DJ work began to take him across the UK. He developed matinée discos for under 18s at Coventry’s Locarno club, and also worked with Judas Priest and The Specials.

Pete Waterman : “I knew Neville way before the time of The Specials. Most of the lads used to play truant in my record shop in Coventry. They used to hide from the police in there. The band they first formed was called Automatica, which then became The Coventry Automatica. They were a hugely talented bunch. I took them to Madonna’s manager and he told me to stick to pop music. They made some truly great songs. Their material is a window in history – their songs are probably the best social commentary ever. They’re just brilliant. I wasn’t in the position at the time to stick with them. I had to say ‘I believe in this’ and walk away.”

(https://i.imgur.com/rHHOwLB.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/UBEKJJL.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/HrLrgC2.jpg)

In 1979, Waterman set up the Loose Ends label with Peter Collins, and scored hits with artists like Musical Youth and Nik Kershaw (both produced by Collins) and tremendous flops by The Rockolas featuring Mike Read and He She Him.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: The Culture Bunker on February 09, 2021, 02:29:32 PM
Marcel King - Reach For Love

(https://img.discogs.com/xQ_EgBZF0wWGyN2z8D4E851BY3s=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-647975-1513943095-8432.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iRypDlgnSs

I'm not even sure if this was released in the UK, as the picture suggests a Factory Benelux release. Marcel had been the teenaged lead singer in Sweet Sensation, but his career sadly wasn't at such heights when he recorded this classic - written and produced by Bernard Sumner and Donald Johnson - and sadder still, it didn't bring any reversal of fortune for him.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 09, 2021, 02:42:09 PM
When Two Songs Sound The Same - Frankie Goes To The Bank. AKA HeeBeeGeeBees.

A track released on J & B on '20 Big No 2's album in 1984. Became a B side for a Prince (Ponce) parody single in '85.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/gpiWav.jpg)

We can't leave 1984 without a bit of Frankie?

The sort of derisory novelty record that would make the Chart Music Podcast team explode with incandescent scorn. It is painful.

The Heebeegeebees was a pop parody group from the early 1980s. Originally featured on the comedy radio show "Radio Active"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpa46D1q9vo&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on February 09, 2021, 04:27:15 PM
Elvis Costello and The Attractions - The Deportees Club (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf2RKMXjrMI)

(https://i.imgur.com/owAQEvt.jpg)

Penultimate track on Side 2 the album "Goodbye Cruel World" - released in June 1984

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Elvis Costello : "Sometimes perversity ruled the day. I trivialized the drama of "The Comedians" by my willful decision to re-arrange it in 5/4 time, while "Deportees Club" was simply the wrong music for the right words. Thankfully none of this proved fatal in the long run.

(https://i.imgur.com/fVDegLp.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/Vzdfmm2.jpg) 

"Between the completion and the release of this record I discovered some of the mistakes I'd made. During that time I played my first professional solo concerts on a tour of the United States. I got a chance to reclaim several old tunes that had got lost in the studio but most of all I began to rescue my newest songs from the recorded fog. I even went so far as to re-compose the music of "Deportees Club". Stripping off the over-wrought racket I found a tune more in keeping with an exile's lament. Several years later Christy Moore cut a great version of it for his album The Voyage."


(https://i.imgur.com/Kqhp41Z.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/WdBLKzE.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/zpXP5Kz.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/kjWM6G5.jpg) 

Elvis Costello : "Patrick MacManus was a ship's musician on the ocean liners. His work took him to New York and back in the 1920s. It must have been a tough and uncommon experience for a young trumpet player. Many people of my grandfather's background only made that journey in one direction. Over the years my thoughts about adventure and travel have got mixed up with family history in songs such as "New Amsterdam," "Kid About It," "American Without Tears," "Last Boat Leaving," and "Veronica." However, the idea of running away to sea had rather lost its romantic implication by the time I wrote this song. The words speak of an imaginary place where all the false promises that I had been inclined to swallow swilled together in the same poisonous glass. I suppose it is of little consequence that one of the real-life locations, the fibre-glass nightclub, was actually a fire-trap dive in Rome. It is transported by the trickery of song into a personal version of America.

(https://i.imgur.com/hPvwAM1.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/MKOPA9N.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/VXphLFk.jpg) 

"Sometime in the spring of 1984 I ditched the ugly clutter of my recorded version of the song (which can also be found on the unhappy Goodbye Cruel World album) and reworked the tune as a ballad. Unburdened by some of these very personal aspects, the mighty Christy Moore was able to give the song a more universal feeling, which turns it into a sympathetic tale of the hapless exile.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 09, 2021, 05:21:42 PM
Ha, I've logged on to post exactly that little gem. I'm pretty sure all the music on the 'UK Electro' release was performed by the DJ Greg Wilson, Martin Jackson (ex-Magazine) and Andy Cornell (ex-A Certain Ratio), the latter two then moving on to sophisti-pop success with Swing Out Sister. I think Wilson himself has said he regards it as a bit of a precursor to the DJ-led cut and paste jobs that cluttered the mid to late 80s. Regardless, it has buckets of charm in its own right and that persistent staccato bassline is very hard to resist even now, thirty-odd years later.


Yeah, I was wrong to say Kermit from Black Grape was involved in that track, he did the vocals on another track on the compilation (with music by the same trio as the Syncbeat track under another alias) , which by luck is rather decent in itself, and is, perhaps, ever so slightly, the inspiration for the Prodigy track "Girls".
Broken Glass-Style of the Street
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aVfyA7XaTM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cc/UK_Electro_Cover.jpeg)
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 09, 2021, 06:06:37 PM
Elvis Costello and The Attractions - The Deportees Club (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf2RKMXjrMI)

Penultimate track on Side 2 the album "Goodbye Cruel World" - released in June 1984

I remember a mate and I got tickets for the GCW tour. We were so excited because this would have been our first ever Costello gig. Also, said mate had just recovered from raging tonsillitis and was still feeling very fragile so it was a big deal for him to make the trip. We convened in the afternoon and went off into Crawley shopping arcade to find a Wimpy bar. As we passed Our Price we spotted a poster pinned to the shop's front window saying:

"ELVIS COSTELLO CONCERT TONIGHT CANCELLED!!!

ELVIS HAS A BAD SORE THROAT. SORRY EVERYBODY

REFUNDS AT CRAWLEY LEISURE CENTRE BOX OFFICE"

It must've been catching down South.

Also, the shop assistant told us the notice was put up the first thing that morning. So, a chance passing of a record shop window or listening to a possible announcement on Radio 1 was our only heads up back then. When social media ain't so bad.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/lGXiZ5.jpg)

Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 09, 2021, 06:28:33 PM
Billy Bragg - It Says Here

(https://www.snapgalleries.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/2732.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riMTjJMytpc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riMTjJMytpc)

I think this might be Bragg's first appearance in the thread so far. It Says Here, a scalding attack on the right-wing tabloid press, is, sadly, as pertinent now as it was then.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 09, 2021, 06:41:49 PM
Husker Du - Turn On The News

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mrMDLKiwVAQ/hqdefault.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS7vu0IQhqE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS7vu0IQhqE)

One of the highlights from their apocalyptic punk rock opera, Zen Arcade.

Quote
Hüsker Dü were an American band formed in 1979. The band's continual members were guitarist/vocalist Bob Mould, bassist/vocalist Greg Norton, and drummer/vocalist Grant Hart. Hüsker Dü first gained notability as a hardcore punk band, later crossing over into alternative rock. Mould and Hart were the principal songwriters for Hüsker Dü, with Hart's higher-pitched vocals and Mould's baritone taking the lead in alternating songs.

Following the release of three LPs and an EP on independent label SST Records, including the critically acclaimed Zen Arcade in 1984, the band signed to Warner Bros. Records in 1986 to release their final two studio albums. They disbanded in January 1988.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on February 09, 2021, 07:00:00 PM
neil - Cosmic Jam (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn5B-JLnlgo) + Cassette Jam (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyL1tOogHPY)

(https://i.imgur.com/MHE2xhO.jpg)

Featured on the cassette version of "neil's Heavy Concept Album" - released in 1984

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'neil's Heavy Concept Album' was a 1984 recording of songs and spoken comedy routines by long-suffering hippie neil from the BBC comedy series The Young Ones. Production, arrangements and keyboards were by Eurythmics pillock 'It's My Party' hitmaker Dave Stewart, who also plays guitar, bass and drums.

(https://i.imgur.com/vQBHPJg.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/TUpIJqR.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/4w6u0Ge.jpg) 

The front of the album sleeve is a loose parody of The Rolling Stones' 'Their Satanic Majesties Request' album sleeve. The rear parodies the Beatles' 'Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band'. The album followed the success of the neil single "Hole in My Shoe" which reached number 2 in the United Kingdom.

(https://i.imgur.com/3lMaRyw.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/PxcQNCI.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/dK3q7oE.jpg)

The 1984 cassette version of the album features the track "Cassette Jam" following "Cosmic Jam" at the end off side 1 - where neil, realising that the comedy of peanut butter coming around on the LP will not work on the cassette version, redoes the track for cassette and does an impression of the album being tangled on tape and then "Brown Sugar" where Neil discovers some buskers performing the track by The Rolling Stones, assumes the song is about whole foods and joins in with them.

(https://i.imgur.com/ausfL9W.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/2mvwNqS.jpg)

After "The Amoeba Song", it features two additional tracks: "Go Away (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSVWSpZ6mHM)", where neil tries to explain the album has finished, and the 'Hole in my Shoe' B-side, "Hurdy Gurdy Mushroom Man".
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Gregory Torso on February 09, 2021, 07:08:27 PM
Ania - On The Telephone (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReylLKyS5pI&t)

(https://i.imgur.com/aM0bhBk.jpg)

Minimal synthpop from Sweden. The one and only release, as far as I am aware, from Ania, on a record label that seems to have mainly released classical music in the 80s and 90s. The A-side is all pseudosexy, drunk and silly, but the B-side (the track I'm posting) is the good stuff. Shame she didn't do anything else because her vocals are great.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: The Culture Bunker on February 09, 2021, 07:17:35 PM
We've had them mentioned on here before, but I think this is the best thing they ever did:

The Sound - A New Way of Life, taken from their 'Shock of Daylight' EP. Didn't chart, obv, except at #31 in New Zealand, apparently.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/47/TheSoundShockOfDaylight.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdA159Apd4I

For me, the whole band are at an absolute peak here.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Clatty McCutcheon on February 09, 2021, 07:42:49 PM
Tones on Tail - Go!

https://youtu.be/3TJC48BRBn8

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/zT36fhTvNQjCxDuRlgjm_Zp4H8pOQdYPI7kKXP5MELGYDkdOYw_SPaCNCZHo7-900wRaaPdQqvZ6uJfpHQVz_ECjcK2RbWjCLr88MjZrjJKJtRhYYOGwcJ6twEjMd7D97-ka40qItw=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)

The 12” version of this percussive, cowbell-featuring dancefloor banger. Tones on Tail started as a side project of Bauhaus guitarist Daniel Ash, which I would never have guessed from this.

The shout of ‘Go!’ was sampled by Moby on a 1991 single, which you can guess the title of...
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 09, 2021, 08:11:13 PM
Cida Desvarieux- Ka and Fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfS9dgf8ubM&feature=emb_title
(https://img.discogs.com/Xlvwdt9b5HHiE6WgXMxfRQ80xH8=/fit-in/595x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-2420075-1283090808.jpeg.jpg)
Discogs lists the genre of this album as Zouk, a genre I'm not really aware of it. This LP is a funny mixture of folky sounding melodies, but with sophisticated arrangements- the strings on this are doing a Melody Nelson type thing, the brass section is doing an afrobeat thing, and Cida's own voice sounds a bit classically-trained at times.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Better Midlands on February 09, 2021, 08:32:00 PM
Tones on Tail - Go!

https://youtu.be/3TJC48BRBn8

I'm a huge fan of Tones On Tail - Lions (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRSYMk42h2k&t=22) also 1984.

(https://images.genius.com/f7ce48e5e68c16a712a98ec7f58336e3.600x605x1.jpg)

I always think this sounds ahead of it's time and the vocal reminds me of F.E.A.R. era Ian Brown for some reason.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 09, 2021, 08:35:19 PM
Tony Allen- N.E.P.A. (Never Expect Power Always)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xmc87LsaGo4
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.ivYMLYNLqiCbM3SbyJbayQHaHa?pid=Api&rs=1)
Former drummer in Fela Kuti's band, Tony Allen released this musical attack on the Nigerian Electrical Power Authority with his band Afrobeat 2000.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Better Midlands on February 09, 2021, 08:39:00 PM
John Rocca - I Want It To Be Real (https://youtu.be/A1wMuNPqwV8)

(https://img.discogs.com/UxPahyLC5hVWLGy9Wpwn-5szbUI=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-175635-1162670815.jpeg.jpg)


Quote
During the early 1980s, Rocca formed, played with, wrote for, produced and managed his first band, Freeez. After his entrepreneurial first self-funded and self-released effort, "Keep in Touch", became a No. 49 hit in the UK Singles Chart, his next effort, Southern Freeez, was a chart success in various countries in Europe and around the world, reaching No. 8 in the UK Singles Chart. Both singles were number one hits in the UK Blues and Soul charts.

During 1983, one of the first records to use digital sampling, "IOU", featured Rocca's falsetto voice and became one of the major dance successes of the 1980s electro music style. It scored number one in dance charts in Europe and the US Billboard Hot Dance Music/Club Play and had popular music chart success across the world, spending three weeks at number 2 in the UK.

As a solo artist, Rocca scored number one again, this time with "I Want It To Be Real", on the US Hot Dance Music/Club Play chart during 1984. Further hit records followed in 1985 such as "Once Upon a Time" and "Move" both being hits in the Billboard US Hot Dance Music/Club Play chart. As a producer, engineer and re-mixer John Rocca worked with bands as diverse as Bomb the Bass and General Public, also touring Europe and the Japan respectively with the bands

In the late 1980s after releasing a number of tracks under the Pseudonym Pink Rythm such as "Melodies of Love" John began more experimental output. First as on his own Cobra, Chemical and Who'd She Coo Record labels, and then in the early 1990s Rocca resurfaced with his Midi Rain project. Several Midi Rain singles were popular in the UK dance charts including "Eyes", "Always", and "Shine" - the latter reaching No. 1 on the Billboard US Hot Dance Music/Club Play chart in 1993.

Rocca retired from the music business in late 1993 and after completing a 1st class honours degree at Middlesex University in 1995 he moved directly into IT and Telecommunications. In 1997 Rocca became one of the founding members of the technology start up Intec Telecom Systems. Intec Telecom Systems was successfully launched on the London Stock Exchange in 2001
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 09, 2021, 09:21:27 PM
Someone  more knowledgeable and cleverer than me could probably express this better, but  that Fall/Michael Clark Whistle Test performance made a big impression on me as a 14 yr old and remains for me one of the greatest examples of UK 80s culture (counter culture, youth culture?).

I suppose you could say that Michael Clark, rigourously, formally and methodically trained, in an institution that is clearly part of the Establishment (Royal School of Ballet), in an artform with a long history (much longer than rock music's history, anyway), is less an embodiment of Counter-Culture and more one of Culture itself, no prefixes required. The first analogue I want to reach for is the informally trained and self-directed Beatles making music with musicians formally trained in Western Classical or Indian Classical traditions. In both the Beatles and the Fall's case, we're getting an extension of the possibilities of rock music.
But in the Beatles case, I don't think anyone seriously expected Ravi Shankar to start singing pop songs, wheras here it feels like the ballet side of the equation is also getting something from working with untutored artists that they couldn't access themself, that the possibilities of ballet are also been extended by the collaboration.

 
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 09, 2021, 09:26:47 PM
I remember a mate and I got tickets for the GCW tour. We were so excited because this would have been our first ever Costello gig. Also, said mate had just recovered from raging tonsillitis and was still feeling very fragile so it was a big deal for him to make the trip.

Does anyone ever get tonsillitis these days? Are they vaccinated against it or something as you never hear about it anymore. I seemed to have every year until I got them taken out (adenoids too), my brother was the same.
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 09, 2021, 09:31:25 PM
Tonsilitis is still real! I know loads of people who've had it as kids and adults, in the last ten years. FACT.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 09, 2021, 09:36:02 PM
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.mzauz9QXltRKSCkwrh_3oQAAAA?w=226&h=194&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7)V. Osinsky/Olga Chipovskaya- Safari
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYdgKHa2KbI

Soviet gymnastics instruction record, to cool sounding synth-pop.
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 09, 2021, 09:49:42 PM

Street Sounds- Radio Active
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnnptP5jMas

Apologies in advance if you find the sax bits on this electro-jazz crossover appallingly cheesy, they are, yeah, I get it, I just think that overall the tune (featured on Street Sounds vol.3) , especially the unison brass bits and the vibes solo, seems to suggest all kinds of musical possibilities for fertile cross-pollination. I don't know if the title was intended a tribute to Angus Deayton and chum's rib-tickling Radio 4 series or not.

Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Phil_A on February 09, 2021, 10:13:00 PM
Microdisney - Everybody Is Dead (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M6jlrpjLIw)

(https://img.discogs.com/ocdyMNS9CtF1O4S-7QY7Z2IXdJE=/fit-in/600x594/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-831223-1367181790-1250.jpeg.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a4/Microdisney.jpg)

Final track from their full length debut, Everybody Is Fantastic (Rough Trade, 1984)

By 1984, Sean O'Hagan and Cathal Coughlan had relocated from Cork to London and managed to get a record deal with Rough Trade. They had yet to recruit a full band at this point so the album Everybody Is Fantastic(produced by John Porter who did The Smiths' debut) was recorded as a duo with heavy use of synths and drum machines. By his account Cathal is not fan of this album, citing poor decisions made by himself with regard to the arrangements. I've always liked it though for all it's rough edges, something incredibly appealling about the combination of Sean's dreamy nocturnal soundscapes and Cathal's acerbic take on boozy romanticism
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 09, 2021, 11:28:46 PM
Mark Riley and the Creepers- Shadow Figure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7yfdW07GbE
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.81f9lsgFW-U9SvBryAdQrgEsDh?w=202&h=180&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7)
Like loads of good things I've heard down the years, I heard this via CaB first, and it's a right ear-worm. Ex-Fall guitarist and future radio DJ Mark Riley's foray into jazz piano pastiche, which musically recalls fifties vocalise numbers like "Twisted" by Lambert, Hendricks and Ross. It would be maybe a bit obvious to assume it's about his relationship with Mark E Smith, if he didn't invite us to "take one guess" at the Shadow Figure's identity in the chorus.
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Post by: Clatty McCutcheon on February 09, 2021, 11:52:11 PM
Friends - Frøknur

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8NWeYulkRlfw92KvQQ7raRSBHdXVuh2SKQK5FG5hih5Cob3LMJ_OCOjYwkwp5xFLgiWDJOKgHYoXP8MwIfMH05rMmws5CsOzVFfQTEAF9v0DJcgnk_Jim4AXbLoWoBylsErFAo-aZw=s225-p-k?source=screenshot.guru"> <img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8NWeYulkRlfw92KvQQ7raRSBHdXVuh2SKQK5FG5hih5Cob3LMJ_OCOjYwkwp5xFLgiWDJOKgHYoXP8MwIfMH05rMmws5CsOzVFfQTEAF9v0DJcgnk_Jim4AXbLoWoBylsErFAo-aZw=s225-p-k)

Who doesn’t love some reggae-lite synth pop from the Faroe Islands, right? If the Faroes had ever entered Eurovision, surely this would’ve been the one.

I can’t remember how stumbled on this obscurity on YouTube, but here it is.

https://youtu.be/Nc9dYJvjOT8
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 10, 2021, 12:04:36 AM
Ok, time to leave Orwell behind and move on into 1985!
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 10, 2021, 12:06:34 AM
Suzanne Vega - Marlene on the Wall

https://youtu.be/Z1UmZnsA0EM (https://youtu.be/Z1UmZnsA0EM)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61yWpgDbYwL._SY355_.jpg)

Born in Santa Monica, she's a singer-songwriter, musician and record producer and this is her debut single.
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Post by: Better Midlands on February 10, 2021, 12:39:59 AM
Ginny - Can't Be Serious (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3HMga7kDJw&t=3)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xXKXP0wRthQ/hqdefault.jpg)

Ex-Red Box backing singer, later of The Dear Janes/The Pond

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Post by: Better Midlands on February 10, 2021, 12:59:21 AM
Maze - Twilight (https://youtu.be/3tfbNpR_CkY)

(https://img.discogs.com/6VIIPLY_5al-TvzoLg3BuguU_zo=/fit-in/500x481/filters:strip_icc():format(webp):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-7605336-1444999120-2436.jpeg.jpg)

Instrumental b-side to their UK #36 release Two Many Games.

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Maze, also known as Maze Featuring Frankie Beverly and Frankie Beverly & Maze, is an American soul band founded by Frankie Beverly in Philadelphia in 1970. Under its original name Raw Soul, the band relocated to San Francisco and was introduced to Marvin Gaye. Gaye took the group on the road with him as one of his opening acts, and in 1976, he suggested that they change their name from Raw Soul. Maze released 9 Gold albums from 1977 to 1993.[1] Their well-known songs include "Happy Feelin's", "While I'm Alone", "Golden Time Of Day", “Southern Girl”, "The Look in Your Eyes", "Joy and Pain", "Before I Let Go", "We Are One", "Back in Stride", "Can't Get Over You" and "The Morning After.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 10, 2021, 01:13:48 AM
Days of 29 - Destination D-Day
(https://img.discogs.com/j8BacxGWKKvtvtJ0XW_tuutHLsw=/fit-in/486x483/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-2784383-1300892020.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmJh1rw0MkE

I have been waiting to post this ridiculous post-punk banger since the thread began so now we've reached 85 I'm glad I can. The bassline alone is utterly irresistible. I can't find any information about this band and frankly that makes this even better. This is New Order taken to a degree that even New Order couldn't manage.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 10, 2021, 02:18:46 AM
The Wedding Present - (The Moment Before) Everything's Spoiled Again

https://youtu.be/QIGkfVnq4dk (https://youtu.be/QIGkfVnq4dk)

(http://images.45cat.com/the-wedding-present-go-out-and-get-em-boy-1985-5.jpg)

Formed in Leeds in 1984 by David Gedge and Keith Gregory, they released their first single, "Go Out and Get ’Em, Boy", on their own Reception label in early 1985. This is the b-side. They (albeit only Gedge remains from the original band) went on to release albums consistently through to the present day, with a break in the late 90s, early 00s when Gedge formed the band Cinerama with his then wife Sally Murrell.
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Post by: jobotic on February 10, 2021, 10:26:11 AM
Love those. Can't say I listen to the Wedding Present anymore but those two are still thrilling. Got a great live version of Go Out And Get 'Em Boy! on a Sounds magazine 7" ( I think).
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 10, 2021, 10:27:14 AM
Down On The Seine - The Style Council.  Released on Polydor in 1985.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/Fvhup4.jpg)

One of my favourite albums of that year with one of my favourite ever Weller compositions. I'm glad TSC were finally reevaluated last year after all this time as often being dismissed as just a 'Wings' of The Jam.

The Style Council were an English band formed in 1983 in Woking, England by Paul Weller, the former singer, songwriter, and guitarist with the punk rock/new wave/mod revival band The Jam, and keyboardist Mick Talbot. Disbanded in 1990.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgtSxDUXhWI
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Post by: Gregory Torso on February 10, 2021, 10:39:47 AM
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Post by: Gregory Torso on February 10, 2021, 10:44:21 AM
Half Japanese - Firecracker (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RBvVgRx7B8)

(https://i.imgur.com/svveQPF.jpg)

The band at their peak, firing on silly string and toy saxophones, this swings.

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Half Japanese is an American art punk band formed by brothers Jad and David Fair around 1975, sometime after the family's relocation to Uniontown, Maryland. Their original instrumentation included a small drum set, which they took turns playing; vocals; and an out-of-tune, distorted guitar. Both Fair brothers sang, although over time Jad moved into the frontman role.

The band played and recorded as a duo until the early 1980s, when they began incorporating additional members into the group: Mark Jickling (guitar and vocals) and brothers Ricky and John Dreyfuss (drums and saxophone).
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Post by: Gregory Torso on February 10, 2021, 10:53:58 AM
Chorchazade - Aah, You Are, As Light As A Feather (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT-2IIb7EM8)

(https://i.imgur.com/jQkShWA.jpg)

A mysterious, creaky, delicate piece of prototype post-post-rock, with tapping harmonics and wet floorboards and what sounds like the first few breadcrumbs on the trail towards Slint and Thinking Fellers Union and some of the weirder bands of the late 90s. A really amazing song by a band with a really silly name.

A four piece from Bristol who managed a couple of albums and a single Peel shout-out.

There is an interview with one of the band here (https://www.furious.com/perfect/chorchazade.html).

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PSF: What was inspiring you at that time? What influences were you operating under? Were there any definite influences or was it more self-contrived at that point? Basically, where was this singular and bizarre music coming from?

NOEL: Practical limitations played a major part in the song writing. Chris couldn't really play the guitar and Julian, our other guitarist, wasn't very confident. This meant that the main structure had to come from the drums, Keith was a brilliant drummer, and the bass. I was, before Chorchazade, a rhythm guitarist so I played the bass like a guitar. The actual guitar parts had to be very simple to play.

The initial influences came from 1977, when I'd first taken an interest in music and started to write songs. This was punk music of course, especially The Clash and Wire. Keith, Chris and I did our first gig together on November the 8th, 1977, while we were still at school. After 1979, I didn't really take much notice of other groups, being self absorbed and stubborn by nature. I have never owned a record player. I like to watch television. I first heard the Fall and Captain Beefheart in 1982, and the Velvet Underground a little later. When I met Julian in 1984, he played me Ennio Morricone soundtracks and Ska records. I'm sure it all got absorbed somehow.

Mostly, I was a doodler though. I made up tunes on the guitar that had a certain mood to them and just took it from there. If a batch of songs were fast, I'd write a slower one to mix it up a bit. If one sounded happy, I'd make the next one sad. There was no conscious plan to create an overall sound or direction. For me, it was all part of a journey that started in 1977. I was always disappointed by what I wrote, so I was simply trying to make the next song better than the last.


PSF: About how many shows, would you say, did Chorchazade play during its lifetime? How did audiences react to your music?

NOEL: Getting gigs was always very difficult, even after the records were released. Although we'd get good reviews from the few critics who wrote about us, I'd say the average audience attendance was rarely above 30. The complexity of the music also made us pretty erratic live. Sometimes, we'd get it just right and the people would enjoy it and say nice things afterwards. But a lot of the time, it felt like trying to get some enormous bird to take off... running and flapping and stumbling and flapping without actually getting off the ground. I always sang with my eyes closed. When I opened them after the last song, quite often there'd be nobody there.

I think we did about 40 gigs in 4 years. If we played outside Bristol, we'd have to hire a van and a driver, and because we didn't really get paid anything it meant that we could only afford to do this when we'd saved up enough of our unemployment benefit.


PSF: What groups did you play with?

NOEL: We supported, or were supported by, a lot of different groups that went on to have various degrees of success: James, A Certain Ratio, Marc Riley and the Creepers, The Blue Aeroplanes. When we played with Pulp, Jarvis Cocker really did call across the alley and say that I was a genius for writing such brilliant sounding music for guitarists who couldn't play.


PSF: Out of sheer curiosity, where did the name Chorchazade come from?

NOEL: Just a word I made up to describe the noise a thousand starlings make when they're all singing in the same tree. You know, having poetic pretensions and all that. When it came to deciding on a name for the group we couldn't agree on one. We couldn't agree about anything in fact. So we each wrote three names down and had a kind of horse race using 12 plastic horses on a cardboard racecourse and throwing dice. It was pretty exciting actually. We were all jumping up and down and cheering our own horses on. The horse called Chorchazade came in second. A horse called Mum's Drum won by a mile, but we all finally agreed on something... that Mum's Drum was a shit name for a group.

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Post by: jobotic on February 10, 2021, 11:00:44 AM
The Cravats - Shroud of New York, Chapter 2

(https://img.discogs.com/fWKPM_A57e9nkLopn9CNGuF-FhI=/fit-in/600x598/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-684610-1588070738-7786.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7DoJWzYjKA

Part of the Cravats/Very Things/DCL Locomotive gang, featuring Knowing Me Knowing You star, The Shend.

I can't get enough of this EP, which is more like The Very Things than the punk sax skronk of other Cravats releases. They're still going now - I saw them a couple of years ago in Rochester, sadly I was one of about 15 people. Even the support band fucked off, the height of rudeness.
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Post by: Norton Canes on February 10, 2021, 11:16:23 AM
Mainframe - 5 Minutes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0WGlMOZVIM)


(https://img.discogs.com/8fGkBMyfXAgYuh3Hh-OmWiBSQHo=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-389100-1554807475-5726.jpeg.jpg)


Released 1985

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The band Mainframe, hailing from Hertfordshire in the South East United Kingdom were one of the great unsung bands of the early to mid 1980s. They made a number of appearances on television at the time, most often demonstrating the DS:3 digital sampler that a couple of friends of theirs had devised, built and sold commercially (which the band made extensive use of), and were eventually signed to Polydor in 1985, with the realease of the track "5 Minutes". Their earlier work, notably the album "Tenants of The Lattice-Work" and a few 7" single releases showed a band capable not only of catchy melodies but also, as was most strongly demonstrated on "Tenants of The Lattice-Work", a level of musical inspiration that met with few equals during a time of popular music whose terrain was dominated, sadly often, by synth-pop mediocrity


(http://www.muzines.co.uk/images_mag/articles/hsr/HSR_84_11_mainframe:_s_large.jpg)


Band website (http://mainframe-music.info/) | Extended 12" version + bonus tracks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJCxdzIs758)
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 10, 2021, 01:00:47 PM
? - Modern Industry (Dance Mix) - Fishbone. Released on Columbia in 1985.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/ykzkPv.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/1dvWBe.jpg)

One of those artists that expanded my music tastes as a young man. Just brilliant.

Fishbone are an American band formed in 1979 in Los Angeles, California, who plays a fusion of funk, metal, rock, reggae, ska, punk, soul, etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrdxuIhKAJ8
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 10, 2021, 06:32:50 PM
The Beat Farmers - Happy Boy

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dG6zxDDtf3Q/hqdefault.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJQOo4k-BBo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJQOo4k-BBo)

Hubba hubba hubba hubba hubba...

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The Beat Farmers were an American band who enjoyed a cult following during the 1980s into the early 1990s, before the death of drummer and sometime lead singer Country Dick Montana. Their music is an amalgamation of cow punk, jangle pop, roots rock, hard-twang Americana, country rock, rockabilly, and swamp rock.

On 8th November 1995, Country Dick Montana, who sang lead on their most well-known song, Happy Boy, died of a heart attack while performing The Girl I Almost Married three songs into the band's set at the Longhorn Saloon in Whistler, British Columbia. The remaining Beat Farmers decided to dissolve the band three days later.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 10, 2021, 08:28:11 PM
Cocteau Twins - Aikea Guinea

https://youtu.be/FClYQu69mec (https://youtu.be/FClYQu69mec)

(https://img.discogs.com/GB9RWdgS934XKQahfXTitbfFlkg=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-86619-1322337652.jpeg.jpg)

Lead track from an EP released soon after their Treasure album, it reached number 41 in the UK charts and number 5 in the Festive Fifty.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 11, 2021, 05:38:17 PM
Perfect Day Baby (Swiss Wood Version) - Simon Warner   Released on EG in 1985.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/9939/uEUxui.jpg)

Ah, the enigmatic Simon Warner. Made one poptastic single in 1985. Fucked off. Returned in 1997 to make the mythical, Waiting Rooms one of the decade's finest albums. A kitchen sink baroque masterpiece that gave Pulp, The Divine Comedy, certainly My Life Story, more than a run for their money. Then, he fucked off again, never to be heard of again. Sad emoji.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRFzeK6wo-M&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 11, 2021, 06:03:05 PM
Alba - Only Music Survives
(https://img.discogs.com/om1m29XGQ75e1v4JzcrgePzb_yE=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-3353146-1327009244.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-W0ad_yWaM

Alba Parietti is an Italian film actress, television presenter and was once an entrant in the Italian Miss Universe contest. Only Music Survives is from the same producer as Valerie Dore's entry The Night as listed earlier by me in this thread, and is a little more sombre than a lot of the Italo records I've posted: there's an obvious ABBA influence in this song which perhaps is played on with the fact she's going under the singular first-name moniker a la Morrissey, Cher and probably some other people who aren't bastards as well. There's a definite hint of The Winner Takes It All about the piano intro and this could fit snugly on The Visitors.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 11, 2021, 06:14:54 PM
Shock Headed Peters - Chalet D'Amour
(https://img.discogs.com/pZW70CFXLuhVotd6rsU7hH3zLpU=/fit-in/600x592/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-350309-1261067949.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs5i2wrR1fM

Following I, Bloodbrother Be the Peters (as I alone refer to them) released the much overlooked Not Born Beautiful from which this is a personal highlight. Tracks like this resemble nothing so much as early Sabbath through a post-punk lens something Karl Blake commented on in a Quietus interview about the 1993 album Fear Engine II:

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“We covered ‘Electric Funeral’ live to show just how damn good Sabbath were, not to be ironic. I wanted to convince the audience that we REALLY DID like Sabbath – well, I did, anyway. The drummer we had at the time would only stretch to doing the one song though – you couldn’t get the staff back then...”

In another guise Karl would go on to release a single consisting entirely of Sabbath covers. Chalet D'Amour appears in another form on a collection of Karl's bedroom demos.
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Post by: daf on February 11, 2021, 07:06:52 PM
Squeeze - Break My Heart (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8YGO_Vwu7c)

(https://i.imgur.com/OIZduBJ.jpg)

Featured on the album "Cosi Fan Tutti Frutti" - released in August 1985

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After the release of the 1982 album 'Sweets from a Stranger', Squeeze broke up. Difford and Tilbrook carried on releasing an album under both of their names before reforming Squeeze with the band's original drummer Gilson Lavis and keyboardist Jools Holland in 1985. Keith Wilkinson who had toured with Difford and Tilbrook replaced John Bentley for the reunion album "Cosi Fan Tutti Frutti" - bringing a new sound to the band with his fretless Fender Jazz bass.

Glenn Tilbrook : "The Squeeze sound did change when we had Keith Wilkinson, and looking back now, not necessarily for the better."

(https://i.imgur.com/SFTAx7g.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/xlhWbTC.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/xZgjuEn.jpg)

The new LP featured complex double-tracked keyboard parts which could not be duplicated by a single keyboard player in a live setting; hence, Jools' brother Christopher Holland, then aged 17, played and toured as a second keyboardist in 1985. Christopher had also played Hammond organ on the album's fourth single "Heartbreaking World", which was sung by Jools Holland. However, Christopher Holland's tenure was short-lived, for he had signed to I.R.S. Records and was pursuing a solo career, so he was replaced by an official new member: Andy Metcalfe of The Soft Boys and The Egyptians. A bassist in those groups, Metcalfe played keyboards with Squeeze.

Love the mad bendy bass on this!
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 11, 2021, 07:32:14 PM


(https://i.imgur.com/OIZduBJ.jpg)

Featured on the album "Cosi Fan Tutti Frutti" - released in August 1985



Just discovered this great old clip promoting this album while trying to find my favourite track off it. Jools Holland was a bumptious bloke back then. He seems to have lost that vibe over the years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbnePy_dAVA
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 11, 2021, 07:40:23 PM
The Three O'Clock - Another World

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2706694945/5ea9dc156d4e00bbf68023de1473cdbb.jpeg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvJ2DxO2UcQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvJ2DxO2UcQ)

Welcome to the Paisley Underground... Beatle boots, three-buttoned jackets and stripy jumpers required.

You can easily imagine this being a hit for The Monkees during the high summer of '67. It's that good.

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The Three O'Clock's lead singer and bassist Michael Quercio is credited with coining the term "Paisley Underground" to describe a subset of the '80s L.A. music scene which included '60s-inluenced bands such as Dream Syndicate, Rain Parade, Green on Red, the Long Ryders and the Bangles.



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Post by: daf on February 11, 2021, 10:00:00 PM
Robyn Hitchcock & the Egyptians - My Wife & My Dead Wife (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ltb-MyoI7nE)

(https://i.imgur.com/gucD3x0.jpg)

Featured on the album 'Fegmania' - released in March 1985

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Fegmania! was the fourth studio album by Robyn Hitchcock, and his first with his backing band The Egyptians - which included the former Soft Boys Andy Metcalfe and Morris Windsor. Stills from the video for the song "The Man with the Lightbulb Head" were reproduced as cover art for the front and back of the LP sleeve.

Robyn Hitchcock : "I always thought we were a bit too uptight in the studio, but I thought that live that translated to a very tight show. I think all those records were blueprints, you know. Listening to them now, they all sound just slightly fast and they all sort of suffer from ’80s dust sprinkled over them. The drums and the guitars and all that, you know. Nearly everything recorded in the mid-’80s has shoulder pads. You had to be very nimble to avoid it. There’s a sort of gloss, you know. It wasn’t intentional, but it just sort of went down with the recording."

(https://i.imgur.com/C6IbVHC.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/kwGfqzm.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/sLDznlV.jpg) 

The song was inspired by the 1945 film of Blithe Spirit, directed by David Lean and starring Margaret Rutherford and Rex Harrison. Originally a 1941 comic play by Noël Coward, it concerns the socialite and novelist Charles Condomine (Harrison), who invites the eccentric medium and clairvoyant, Madame Arcati (Rutherford), to his house to conduct a séance, hoping to gather material for his next book. The scheme backfires when he is haunted by the ghost of his annoying and temperamental first wife, Elvira (Kay Hammond), after the séance. Elvira makes continual attempts to disrupt Charles's marriage to his second wife, Ruth (Constance Cummings), who cannot see or hear the ghost.

(https://i.imgur.com/Xl75eLN.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/wi3zr2K.jpg)

The play had been a major success, and Coward advised Lean not to jeopardise this with the adaptation, telling him "Just photograph it, dear boy". In spite of this, Lean made a number of changes such as adding exterior scenes, whereas the play had been set entirely in a single room, showing scenes like the car journey to Folkestone which had only been referred to in the play. Perhaps most importantly, the final scene, in which Charles dies and joins his two wives as a spirit, does not occur in the play, which ends with his leaving his house after taunting his former wives, of whom he is now free. Coward objected strenuously to this change, charging Cineguild with having ruined the best play he ever wrote.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 11, 2021, 10:16:29 PM
Camper Van Beethoven - Take the Skinheads Bowling

https://youtu.be/oTjq0UkFXzo (https://youtu.be/oTjq0UkFXzo)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/INnFvMgET1E/hqdefault.jpg)

Formed in Redlands, California in 1983, this is their debut single. It reached number 47 in the Festive Fifty. They split up in 1990 but reformed in 2000 and are still active today.
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on February 11, 2021, 10:31:54 PM
Quite amusing choice, as I was playing a bowling game on the PS4 with the missus when I saw that post. Obviously cued it up.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 11, 2021, 10:32:29 PM
Candy - Whatever Happened to Fun?

(https://heavyharmonies.com/bandpics/CANDY_BAND.JPG)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqbw1D6WDW0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqbw1D6WDW0)

These short-lived LA power-poppers featured future Guns 'N Roses member Gilby Clarke on guitar. This is the title track from their one and only album. Like all the best power pop, its glittery commercial sheen belies a deeply pained lyric: this is the sound of four adolescents on the brink of adulthood; an anxious rush of nostalgia for innocent times only recently passed. We will never be so young again. Excuse me, I have something in my eye...
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Post by: daf on February 11, 2021, 10:39:16 PM
Candy - Whatever Happened to Fun? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqbw1D6WDW0)

Does anyone remember laughter?
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 11, 2021, 10:42:05 PM
I had a right old giggle once in 1997.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 11, 2021, 10:43:25 PM
Camper Van Beethoven - Take the Skinheads Bowling

One of my favourites, that. Love it.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 11, 2021, 10:45:12 PM
Coil - The Wheel
(https://img.discogs.com/LNv84-qxOrR-hVn89Rrt8EpQzW4=/fit-in/600x601/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1238238-1428064539-5368.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlZkHNe6eVs

Coil's contribution to the Some Bizarre compilation If You Can't Please Yourself, Please Your Soul is a lot poppier than most of their material: with the fey yearning of Balance's voice it could be The Pastels or something, it just happens to be full of clanking noises and deranged sampling flourishes. I wish there'd been more made by this group of people: alongside Balance and Sleazy you have Foetus on production detail and Alex Fergusson of Psychic TV, Alternative TV and TV appearances as manager of Man United between 1986 and 2013. This is a great compilation all around with contributions from Foetus, Marc Almond, The The and Cabaret Voltaire among others.
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Post by: daf on February 12, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
Rustie Lee ‎– Barbados (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IWs4NZ1ak4)

(https://i.imgur.com/YYFwLqB.jpg)

Released in September 1985 - did not chart

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Rustie Lee first came to public attention for her appearances during the 1980s on the morning television station TV-am - memorably putting up with impressionist Faith Brown (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksoSaf2Z-eQ) making a tit of herself with a black stocking over her head, the daft racist!

Following her initial successful period as a chef on TV-am in 1983, Lee took over from Sarah Kennedy on the second incarnation of ITV gameshow Game for a Laugh. In 1985, she released the album Invitation to Party, which included her cover versions of "Barbados" and "My Toot Toot". In 1994, she released the single, "You'd Better Phone".

(https://i.imgur.com/a8L1ZOp.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/YW3E2VT.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/aWIq7nV.jpg) 

In 2008, Lee briefly joined the cast of EastEnders as Gus Smith's aunt Opal Smith. She also appeared briefly in Peter Kay's Britain's Got the Pop Factor... and Possibly a New Celebrity Jesus Christ Soapstar Superstar Strictly on Ice, and appeared in the last episode of Benidorm Series 6 as Queenie.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 12, 2021, 01:45:18 AM
Dead Can Dance - Enigma of the Absolute

https://youtu.be/l4YPMljq68A (https://youtu.be/l4YPMljq68A)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5a/Dead_Can_Dance_-_Spleen_and_Ideal_album_cover.png)

Taken from their second album, Spleen and Ideal
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Post by: monkfromhavana on February 12, 2021, 08:15:33 AM
Tullia De Piscopo - Primavera (Stop Bajon)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alBhkEVrxBY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alBhkEVrxBY)
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Post by: Hooverbag Sherlocks on February 12, 2021, 08:57:52 AM
Big Stick - Drag Racing
Single released by Recess Records in the US, 1985

(https://i.imgur.com/FaWRfX6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vNINCWj.jpg)

Searing 90-second salute to summer fashion and what a great boyfriend Eddie is, courtesy of art-rock co-conspirators John Gill and Yanna Trance. One of 143 records John Peel would have rescued in the event of a house fire. More from them later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB0RoMamFGc
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Post by: BlodwynPig on February 12, 2021, 10:05:05 AM
Tullia De Piscopo - Primavera (Stop Bajon)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alBhkEVrxBY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alBhkEVrxBY)

One of the best.

Here's my entry - released as a single in 1982, coming from the earlier 1981 album 'Claro Que Si' and backed with a b-side (Smile On You) that featured on their next album.

Yello - Pinball Cha Cha (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fi8qw7mQDU)

amazing video that would have Tony Hart leaping for joy.
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Post by: Norton Canes on February 12, 2021, 10:53:46 AM
Dead Can Dance - Enigma of the Absolute

https://youtu.be/l4YPMljq68A (https://youtu.be/l4YPMljq68A)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5a/Dead_Can_Dance_-_Spleen_and_Ideal_album_cover.png)

Taken from their second album, Spleen and Ideal

Wa-hey! It's Grain Elevator No. 2!
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Post by: Gregory Torso on February 12, 2021, 11:05:40 AM
Flaming Tunes (Gareth Williams & Mary Currie) - Breast Stroke (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG-lQIT8c78)

(https://i.imgur.com/mcvqNqB.jpg)

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Gareth Williams was best known as one third of This Heat, as the group's bassist and keyboard player. Flaming Tunes, his only full length release outside of his work with This Heat, was a collaborative album released only on cassette originally, and made with lifelong friend Mary Currie and various additional guest musicians.

A really beautiful, melancholic waltz of a song. Rips my heart up every time. Released on tape in 1985 and then given a full vinyl reissue in 2012 and then again last year! Nice to know labels are keeping things alive, even if it is in limited and expensive runs.

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Post by: Gregory Torso on February 12, 2021, 11:07:37 AM
Big Stick - Drag Racing

Top track! I remember their ace Drag Racing Underground album getting a lot of play on Peel.
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Post by: Norton Canes on February 12, 2021, 11:26:30 AM
Drum Theatre - Living In The Past (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et4kiBZBxhA)


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Released 1985

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This cosmopolitan UK-based group comprised Kent B. (drums, keyboards), Gari Tarn (drums, vocals), Paul Snook (drums, bass guitar). Originally a very exciting visual act, they boasted six members, all of whom played the drums at some point. By the time the band were signed to a recording contract they had been slimmed down to a trio. They received attention when their first single of 1986, ‘Living In The Past’ [ed. - it says 1985 on most discogs], made a minor impact on the UK charts, while they were supporting the Human League on a European tour. The reissue of their 1985 single ‘Eldorado’, in 1987, received plenty of radio airplay and just missed the Top 40, and their debut album was released to mixed reaction and poor sales. The same fate met their subsequent singles


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Pretty much everything they ever released on one album (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Everyman-Drum-Theatre/dp/B00FG1EU3G) | Ex lead singer Gari Gary Tarn is now a 'composer and filmmaker' (http://www.garytarn.com/) - who hasn't exactly covered himself in glory (https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/first-night-12-portraits-corporate-video-notorious-payday-lender-wonga-8923261.html)
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 12, 2021, 11:37:30 AM
Splatter Ballistics Cop - Inca Babies  Released on Black Lagoon in 1985.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/153/Z30cIg.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/6425/jWnAqm.jpg)

I saw this combo support some grisly punk band in 1985. I was impressed by their swagger but discombobulated the entire set because I was convinced the lead singer went to my college. On closer inspection in the bar? Reader, he did not.

Inca Babies were a British Gothabilly band was formed 1982-83 in Manchester/ UK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kvMORzxvqQ
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Post by: Gregory Torso on February 12, 2021, 01:13:08 PM
Pussy Galore - Constant Pain (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiKK1nAYTH0)

(https://i.imgur.com/WWnJcnX.jpg)

Volatile, noisy, totally out of order, Pussy Galore at this point were Jon Spencer, Julia Cafritz and John Hamill. Neil Hagerty, Kurt Wolf, Bob Bert and Cristina Martinez would also come and go. Rich kids slumming it in grimy 80s New York, or an authentic deconstruction and natural wastepipe conclusion to the Rolling Stones greasy swagger, who cares. The year after this the band released a cover of the entirety of Exile On Main Street which Neil Hagerty allegedly made them all learn at gunpoint. They would also re-record parts that didn't sound shit enough. I love crappy, dirgy, badly-recorded, sloppy punk noise, so this ticks all the boxes.

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Post by: jobotic on February 12, 2021, 02:12:05 PM
Yeah fabulous. As is Exile On Main Street. I hate this fucking machine I don't know how the fuck to use it. Loving Cup is better than the Stones'.

I've mentioned before getting my girlfriend back then asking her very posh mum to order Groovy Hate Fuck and Sugarshit Sharp with a credit card over the phone (from Beat Route records I think). Was wonderful.
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Post by: gilbertharding on February 12, 2021, 02:25:28 PM
I liked the idea of Pussy Galore much, much more than the reality, I'm afraid to say. I persevered, buying Groovy Hate Fuck and Dial M for Motherfucker, but they were far from my favourites. I thought they were getting close with Historia De La Musica Rock. I'm just not hardcore enough, I guess. They had a way with a title, I'll say that.

I remember turning up to the Boat Race in Cambridge in 1993 to see Jon Spencer Blues Explosion with some trepidation, but I (and the six other people there) enjoyed the evening immensely.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 12, 2021, 03:26:42 PM
Clan Of Xymox - 7th Time

https://youtu.be/1JL5tRWZUuw (https://youtu.be/1JL5tRWZUuw)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7a/Clan_of_Xymox_-_Debut_album.jpg)

Formed in Holland in 1981 by a trio of songwriters – Ronny Moorings, Anka Wolbert, and Pieter Nooten. This is from their eponymous debut album, released in July. In 1991, after the release of their fourth album, Anka Wolbert and Pieter Nooten left the band. Moorings continues on under the name to the present day,
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Post by: monkfromhavana on February 12, 2021, 04:07:05 PM
Aqua Regia - New York City Smile On Me!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PaahMyKPa8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PaahMyKPa8)
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Post by: daf on February 12, 2021, 06:59:47 PM
The Commentators - 2nd Innings (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYoeH0hatpY)

(https://i.imgur.com/7Lsf4TG.jpg)

'Off-side' of "N-N-Nineteen Not Out" - reached #13 in the UK charts in June 1985

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Roderick Keith Ogilvy Bremner was born in Edinburgh. While studying Modern Languages at King's College London, he worked on the cabaret circuit in the evenings and was also active in a student drama club. He first came into the limelight in 1985, when his single, "N-N-Nineteen Not Out" (released under the name of The Commentators) became a hit in the British charts.

(https://i.imgur.com/IZxH9DL.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/XOxJBWg.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/BEKHb4p.jpg) 

It was a parody of Paul Hardcastle's number one hit, "19", with Bremner impersonating cricket commentators, including Richie Benaud, John Arlott, and Brian Johnston, and replacing references to the Vietnam War with references to the England cricket team's disastrous 1984 home series against the West Indies, in which the England captain Dave Gower had averaged 19 - the useless twat!
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Post by: monkfromhavana on February 12, 2021, 07:15:13 PM
Cocteau Twins - Cherry Coloured Funk (Seefeel Remix)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HTkBcVBHwA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HTkBcVBHwA)
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 12, 2021, 07:32:59 PM
Nineteen - Phil Lynott Released on Polydor in 1985. Only reached 76 in UK.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/LKXOvO.jpg)

I was never much of a rocker back then but always had a secret fondness for a few bands, Thin Lizzy being one of them. I just liked the cut of Lynott's gib. I mean, how could you not?  This was to be his final single as tragically, the man was dead one year later. He was 36.

Phil Lynott was a British-born, Irish-bred, bassist, singer, and songwriter. Lynott is best known as the bassist, vocalist, songwriter and front-man of the band, Thin Lizzy. He launched a solo career in 1980, and fronted the band Grand Slam from 1984–1985, before returning to his solo career in late-1985


They don't make promos like this anymore, except maybe for computer games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf7yCmnEXW0
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Post by: chveik on February 12, 2021, 07:49:25 PM
very strange that Greg didn't beat me to it

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Caroliner Rainbow Hernia Milk Queen - Outhouse of the Pyreeeeeee (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3WKJ-dJCks)

first album from these crazy lads*

*
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They state that all their material was originally performed by Caroliner, a singing disembodied bull's head that existed in the 1800's.
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Post by: chveik on February 12, 2021, 08:01:38 PM
The Legendary Pink Dots - Prisoner (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiyDASonars)

(https://img.discogs.com/kP1X0AeGCp1OcNbBG7Ky5ujwTV8=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-194054-1231685875.jpeg.jpg)

Asylum is imo their first consistently good album. 

our own gout_pony has written a good review about it https://kittysneezes.com/asylum/



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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 12, 2021, 08:02:17 PM
Fairport Convention - The Hiring Fair

https://youtu.be/iQ18QfQZeuw (https://youtu.be/iQ18QfQZeuw)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/60/FairportGladysLeap2.jpg)

A surprise return to the list for Fairport, their first entry since 1969. This is from their fourteenth studio album, Gladys' Leap. At this stage the band still featured founding members Simon Nicol, and Dave Pegg , and featuring for the first time since 1973, Richard Thompson.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 12, 2021, 08:07:22 PM
gout_pony has written a good review about it https://kittysneezes.com/asylum/

I had no idea that was them who'd written it! I love those Pink Dots pieces.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 12, 2021, 08:08:19 PM
Pulp - Little Girl (With Blue Eyes)

(https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/360/0512/20/pulp-little-girl-blue-eyes-12-single_360_5f5a7a155dc8c5714f62bc088f67ea94.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG32EqexRtk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG32EqexRtk)

One of the very few songs from this period that was occasionally performed live when they eventually became all famous and that. And yes, they're lucky that Dan Penn and Spooner Oldham didn't sue (presumably because the legendary southern soul hitmakers weren't paying much attention to the Sheffield indie scene at the time).

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In November 1985, shortly after signing to Fire Records, Jarvis Cocker fell out of a window while trying to impress a girl with a Spider-Man impression and ended up in hospital, temporarily requiring the use of a wheelchair in which he appeared during concerts. Pulp's relationship with Fire Records was tempestuous and Cocker admitted later that the band only accepted the deal as it "was the only offer on the table". During this period, the singles Little Girl (With Blue Eyes) and Dogs Are Everywhere were released.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 12, 2021, 08:18:17 PM
Half Man Half Biscuit - Reflections in a Flat

https://youtu.be/dd3Ydfxlegw (https://youtu.be/dd3Ydfxlegw)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41pTS1rxqVL._QL70_ML2_.jpg)

Formed in 1984 in Birkenhead, Merseyside. Known for their satirical, sardonic, and sometimes surreal songs, the band comprises lead singer and guitarist Nigel Blackwell, bassist and singer Neil Crossley. This is from their debut album, Back in the DHSS.

Notable pop culture giants referenced on the album are: Una Stubbs, Little and Large, Keith Harris, Thora Hird, Matthew Kelly, Isla St Clair, Lionel Blair, Pontius Pilate, Bobby Charlton, Gordon Jackson.....and that's just in the opening track!
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on February 12, 2021, 08:52:28 PM
I think that song was my proper introduction to der Biscuit, heard on Radio 6 probably, and I remember spluttering with laughter at the "twist" in the last line.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 12, 2021, 09:30:55 PM
I think that song was my proper introduction to der Biscuit, heard on Radio 6 probably, and I remember spluttering with laughter at the "twist" in the last line.

So many quotable lines but rhyming Marks & Spencer's with La la la Lech Walesas is just excellent.
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Post by: daf on February 12, 2021, 09:32:29 PM
Half Man Half Biscuit - Reflections in a Flat (https://youtu.be/dd3Ydfxlegw[/url)

Bloody hell - it's FLAT??

I always read that as 'Reflections in a Fiat' on the tape inlay (i think a fly must have taken a tiny dump half way up the 'L'!)
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Post by: daf on February 12, 2021, 09:41:58 PM
The Dukes of Stratosphear - Bike Ride To The Moon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1ubJ2xdb8k)

(https://i.imgur.com/fzOTsJ3.jpg)

Featured on the 6 track EP '25 O'Clock' - released on April Fools day 1985

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Formed in the early '60's in the sleepy village of Swindon, 'The Dukes'  were part of the Avon Sound - performing mainly 'doo-wop' numbers until they had saved up enough money to buy some musical instruments. In 1967, hopping nimbly on the Hippie bandwagon, they re-emerged as 'The Dukes of Stratosphear'. The band included Sir John Johns (singing, guitar, brain buds)  /  The Red Curtain (electric bass, song stuff)  /  Lord Cornelius Plum (mellotron, fuzz-tone guitar) and E.I.E.I. Owen (drum set). Their daft names were given to them by their producer and spiritual guru Swami Anand Nagara (John Leckie) - who claimed that they "would vibrate better with the universe".

(https://i.imgur.com/t4cBhl2.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/KEYz3o0.jpg)

They recorded a 6 track EP, '25 O'Clock' in April 1967. Unfortunately, none of the records ever made it out to the shops, and were left to gather dust for 20 years until 1985, when pickle tycoon Richard Branson, looking for a quiet spot in which to take a slash, stumbled across several unopened boxes gathering dust in the corner of his newly acquired warehouse, and the rest is geography . . .

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Andy Partridge : "In the later '70s, I found myself longing to be doing the music that I loved as a kid of 13 or 14. I'd be listening to the radio then, and there'd be stuff like "See Emily Play," or "Strawberry Fields Forever," "My White Bicycle" -- you know, all these great psychedelic singles, and I thought, "This is wonderful! When I grow up, I'll be in a group, and we'll make music like this!" Of course, as a kid, I had no grasp that this was just the whim of fashion, and that this music was going to last only a year or so, and then it would be gone! But it affected me so profoundly that when I was in a position to be in a group and making records, I thought I should say thank you to the people who made those records, and to say thank you to them by sounding just like them.

"In 1978, I invited Dave Gregory around with a whole bunch of other people on a playback at my flat for the just-finished Go 2 album. After the beers had gone down and all the people had gone home but Dave, I was chatting to him, and I said, "Look, do you fancy making an album of songs that sound like they come from 1967?" He said, "Yeah, I'd love to, but when could we do this?" We talked about it a lot, but he wasn't even in the band at the time, and really, to be honest, I didn't have any spare time at all. I was constantly touring, and it was all I could do get home long enough to get my underwear clean, and then it'd be back out on tour, or back in the studio, or back at rehearsals, or whatever."

(https://i.imgur.com/jxwihqY.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/VKbHH5H.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/WHrdcu4.jpg)

Andy Partridge : "I was put together by Virgin with a Canadian artist they'd just signed called Mary Margaret O'Hara. I got to meet her in Virgin's offices. I spoke to her for about 10 minutes, sat on a sofa outside somebody's office, and she then decided that I was the one to produce her album. So, Rockfield Studios in Wales were booked, and she and her band came over. I got John Leckie to agree to engineer it, so I thought, "That'll be a good team. I'll produce it, I'll do the musical side of things, and John can do the engineering side of things, and it'll be great." But I was concerned by the apparent dent in her sanity. I knew she was exceedingly religious -- she was exceedingly Catholic, to the point of obsession."

Sessions went tits up, and Partridge ended up getting the boot . . .

Andy Partridge : "So, anyway, we suddenly found ourselves with nothing on the books. I said to him, "Hey, do you fancy making a Psychedelic album?" He said, "Sure," and that was it. It took about one nanosecond for him to answer. I knew he'd be great for it, because of his credentials. And really, that was it! This was the chance we needed to go and be this '60s band that sounds like every '60s band I ever loved. I had maybe three songs. John originally tried to get us into Edgar Broughton's studio, because I said it would be nice if we could use period gear. But then he went to see it, and he said, "No, it wouldn't be good enough." He then mentioned, "Well, there's this funny little Christian studio in Hereford, and they've got some great old gear in there, and they're not expensive" -- because the only way we could get Virgin to agree to finance the project was if they'd give us £5,000, which you couldn't really make an album for."

(https://i.imgur.com/HclxQco.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/CJRgE60.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/7AMeENk.jpg) 

Dave Gregory : "The plan came together with remarkable speed. There were no songs to speak of yet, just a few random ideas, and a studio had still to be found, as well as money to pay for it. A psychedelic EP for 1985? Surely we were joking! The whole raison d'etre of the Dukes was to be low-tech, religiously retro and anti-modern in every respect. Virgin Records, in due course, cautiously advanced us £5,000 - enough to rent Chapel Lane Studios, near Hereford, for a couple of weeks - and, with four songs from Andy and one from Colin virtually written, we convened in my tiny living room in Swindon for one rehearsal before setting off the next morning for the studio."

Andy Partridge : "To be honest, I never had all the songs! I was really winging it. It was just pure intention. I think by the time we went in the studio, I had "Your Gold Dress," "Bike Ride to the Moon," "25 O'Clock" -- did I have any others? "My Love Explodes." I had four songs. Actually, it was going to be a full-length album, but time was running out, basically. We did it very quickly -- we did all the recording in about five or six days, and did all the mixing in that much time, too. It was all just first takes. We didn't have the luxury to keep going over it. In fact, I think we spent as much time just rehearsing it and bashing it through in situ with the mic's on us, ready to be rolling at any second."

Fun fact : I was going to sneak this one in while we were doing 1967 (the first two paragraphs), but chickened out!
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 12, 2021, 09:48:32 PM
Red Lorry Yellow Lorry - Sometimes

https://youtu.be/pOaEBMzWNQ8 (https://youtu.be/pOaEBMzWNQ8)

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRB59-PqOTqzHNtvwIUFFOoSWic9S42moKfsg&usqp=CAU)

Taken from their debut album, Talk About The Weather
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 12, 2021, 11:42:41 PM
Ballad Of The Dumb Hairdresser - Phranc. Released on Rhino in 1985.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/sd9Wbd.jpg)

Had this track on a mixtape given to me by a gf around this time. Still lilting. You can see by her old bands, Phranc mellowed slightly

Phranc -AKA Susan Gottlieb was an all-American Jewish lesbian folksinger by night, Tupperware saleslady by day. Was a member of late 70s/early 80s synth/punk bands Nervous Gender, Catholic Discipline, and Castration Squad before going solo. Still playing today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-UsudxcGPw&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: daf on February 13, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
Stu Francis – Santa's Tears (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEQeJjJNhw4)

(https://i.imgur.com/WkoIEg9.jpg)

A rare non grape-crushing outing, released in November 1985 - did not chart

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Stuart G. G. Francis was born in Bolton, Lancashire. After attending Brownlow Fold Junior School and Smithills Base School, both in Bolton, he worked as a bluecoat entertaining guests at Pontins holiday camps. He then switched to comedy and appeared in summer seasons at clubs and in theatres.

Stu Francis : "I organised the sports and bingo and one night held a sing-song. However, I ran out of songs halfway through, so I decided to tell a joke. It went down so well that I told another and then another and it went from there. Two years as a Bluecoat at Pontins followed and then I started working the clubs. I've always enjoyed entertaining people and telling jokes. It's good to make people laugh."

He found fame as a presenter on the children's television programme Crackerjack [Crackerjack!] between 1980 and 1984. His principal "co hosts" were initially The Krankies and later, on alternating editions, Basil Brush and The Great Soprendo. Francis had numerous catchphrases on Crackerjack [Crackerjack!!], most famously 'Ooh! I could crush a grape!!'. Other variations included: I could pop a balloon  /  I could rip a tissue /  I could jump off a doll's house  /  I could wrestle an action man  /  I could duff a daffodil  /  I could test drive a Tonka  /  I could pummel a peach  /  I could eat a whole sausage roll.

He also released a single in 1982 called "I Could Have Crushed A Grape" on Lunar Records, and again in 1983 on Topaz Records as "Ooh! I Could Crush a Grape", and one more time on Tembo Records in 1985 .

(https://i.imgur.com/7KSfaCj.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/0VfxYdY.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/9xvVmoG.jpg)

He went on to host Border TV's Crush a Grape in 1987, a children's game and variety show in a similar vein, if not carbon copy, to his era of Crackerjack [Crackerjack!!!].

Stu Francis : "For a good few years I was a household name and people would shout Crackerjack or one of my catchphrases at me or come up and ask for an autograph. It was great, I really enjoyed it and even now I still get the odd person asking for a Crackerjack pencil. When the show ended, I did a couple of things on TV but it was during a time when the industry was changing. Variety shows became a dirty word as far as television was concerned and entertainment moved on. I'm not at all bitter. If I could live my life over, there really isn't anything that I would do differently. I've been very fortunate and am content with my lot."
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 13, 2021, 02:49:40 AM
James - Hymn From a Village

https://youtu.be/nVL6ZloY47s (https://youtu.be/nVL6ZloY47s)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nVL6ZloY47s/hqdefault.jpg)

Their second single, released in February 1985 by Factory Records. It reached number 28 in the Festive Fifty.
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Post by: gilbertharding on February 13, 2021, 10:25:31 AM
James - Hymn From a Village

https://youtu.be/nVL6ZloY47s (https://youtu.be/nVL6ZloY47s)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nVL6ZloY47s/hqdefault.jpg)

Their second single, released in February 1985 by Factory Records. It reached number 28 in the Festive Fifty.

James played a gig at my school in 1995. I didn't go. I found this online about it:

https://peevedrecords.co.uk/pdf/when_things_were_perfect_booklet.pdf (https://peevedrecords.co.uk/pdf/when_things_were_perfect_booklet.pdf)

I remember the band Children of Some Tradition (they were in my year). Phil Green is a vicar now, apparently, and Tobias Schmidt (as he's now known) is an electronic musician of some sort (and seems to be lying about his age, too).
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 13, 2021, 11:18:09 AM
Killin' Time - Barry Blood Released on BBC in 1985.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/VOkTee.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/Iss76r.jpg)

We all remember where we were on that fateful Thursday evening in '85.

...And this was the rock ballad used in the shocking scene when the viewers discovered the truth about a barmaid's (13) secret affair with a local painter and decorator. (20)
Quite a glacial synth opening synth there.

Barry Blood was a leading light in the Manchester music scene from the late 60's onwards when his band The Trixons supported The Beatles at the Pavilion Gardens in Buxton in 1963. He also worked as a session guitarist for Shane Fenton/Alvin Stardust, and writing, recording and touring Europe with The Blood Band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eOgic6WVOw&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 13, 2021, 03:21:23 PM
How Corrupt Is Rough Trade? - Stockholm Monsters
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJqkRIIBzsg

Produced by Peter Hook I believe, this is a dig from Factory at the rival label. I love the way the ambient loveliness of the intro is punctured by a yell of "Right you bastards!".

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“How Corrupt is Rough Trade” was put out for a reason. Rough Trade are bastards. […] For instance, the other week I was looking at sales figures and it said, Rough Trade sales figures: Stockholm Monsters – none. And it said this for about two or three months, none.

– Andy Fisher, Stockholm Monsters' manager
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 13, 2021, 04:02:45 PM
That's great, Oz Oz. I find this sour subject matter in music so intriguing. eg: EMI - Sex Pistols, Gangsters - The Specials, I Bought Myself A Liarbird - XTC,
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 13, 2021, 05:05:31 PM
Meat Whiplash - Don't Slip Up

https://youtu.be/ShaNZPqHw2w (https://youtu.be/ShaNZPqHw2w)

(https://img.discogs.com/jhMlxX0pkzxXTryHrhR6MuM3pE8=/fit-in/600x594/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-831324-1278345523.jpeg.jpg)


Formed in East Kilbride in 1983, they were closely associated with The Jesus and Mary Chain, supporting them on tour. This is their one and only release (although they did record a Peel session), changing their name to The Motorcycle Boy when female singer Alex Taylor (of The Shop Assistants) joined the group in 1987.
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Post by: daf on February 13, 2021, 07:24:10 PM
Blazing Billy And The Butlins’ Boogie Band - Superman + It's A Lovely Life (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFBmgW5-caM)

(https://i.imgur.com/rS77HrN.jpg)

Featured on the 'Butlin's '85 Summertime Special In Super Stereo' flexi-disc.

Place coin here if flexible record slips!! - - - - > (   )
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 13, 2021, 08:42:27 PM
Please, Maestro - Thierry Durbet. Released on KoKo Media in 1985.

Innit' marvellous?

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/7DNi1g.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/XUMwZW.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/7qB2TQ.jpg)

Thierry Durbet has been an arranger for many different French artists, including Gilbert Bécaud, Jeane Manson, Patricia Kaas, Stephanie, Dave, and also Dionne Warwick. In the 1980s, Durbet released a couple of albums with instrumentals in the electro-pop genre, always in collaboration with Laurent Thierry-Mieg; they came up with a track called ‘Baby rock’ which knew some success.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUtU3ZrlXuw
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 13, 2021, 09:31:07 PM
Guy Fletcher - Bertha (Theme)

(https://img.discogs.com/D2xbLozHSVLEJkwZ2m-S8Es0hN8=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-5493945-1399202960-3903.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_V2GemStEw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_V2GemStEw)

Quote
Bertha was a 13-episode British stop motion-animated children's television series about a factory machine of that name that aired from 1985 to 1986. All the characters were designed by Ivor Wood (The Magic Roundabout; Postman Pat), and the series was produced by his company, Woodland Animations. It was narrated by the great Roy Kinnear and broadcast on BBC Television.

Guy Fletcher is an English record producer and songwriter. He worked as a session singer for the record producer Joe Meek, and as a jazz trumpet player. After deciding to turn to songwriting, he met lyricist Doug Flett in 1966 and their long partnership resulted in writing hit songs for several international artists.

They were the first British writers to have a song recorded by Elvis Presley, when The Fair's Movin' On appeared on the B-side of his 1969 single Clean Up Your Own Backyard. Other Presley recordings followed, including Wonderful World, the opening song from the film Live a Little, Love a Little, and Just Pretend, featured in the concert film That's The Way It Is.

In 1985, Fletcher sang vocals on various songs for the BBC Children's TV series Bertha.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on February 13, 2021, 10:09:38 PM
Black Lace - El Vino Collapso (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMGNiAD-tMA)

(https://i.imgur.com/YyUTbex.jpg)

Released in May 1985 - Reached #42 in June 1985

Quote
Terry Dobson and school friend Ian Howarth formed The Impact, as a five-piece pop group in 1969, with Alan Barton, Steve Scholey and Nigel Scott. The group also performed under the names Penny Arcade and Love or Confusion. Howarth left the band for a short while but returned to the line-up in 1974, and Dobson also left to be replaced briefly by Neil Hardcastle. Dobson then re-joined and Scott left in 1975; that same year the band adopted the name Black Lace. Howarth left the band for good in 1976, and was replaced by Colin Gibb.

(https://i.imgur.com/urVC1xG.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/1XOgJY3.jpg) 

They toured the UK and in recorded their debut four track EP, featuring 'Suzy Babe', 'Hey There Lonely Girl', 'Gasoline Alley Bread', 'Touch Of Velvet - Sting Of Brass' - which was sold at concerts and at Skegness Butlins and Bottons Fun Park during the group's summer seasons there in 1976-7. In 1977, their second release, a three track EP, featuring 'Bohemian Rhapsody', 'Peanuts' and 'Romeo', was produced by comedian Freddie 'Parrotface' Davis at his studio.

(https://i.imgur.com/JIFtQz4.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/idrTzIA.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/w36gJSu.jpg)

In 1979, Black Lace recorded their first single, "Mary Ann", with Alan Barton as the lead singer. Steve Scholey moved to backing vocals for the band's recordings, but remained as lead singer on live performances. The song won the BBC Television's A Song For Europe and the band went on to represent the UK at the 1979 Eurovision Song Contest held in Israel. They finished seventh, and the single reached No. 42 in the UK Singles Chart. The band's follow-up single, "So Long Suzy Baby", failed to chart in the UK, but achieved success in Europe with live performances and TV shows.

(https://i.imgur.com/XV1dw5E.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/9FXcVqx.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/ITtgNeQ.jpg)

The band toured Denmark in 1980, supporting Suzi Quatro and working with Tommy Seebach, a Danish entertainer. Black Lace and Seebach recorded "Hey Hey Jock McRay" for the Danish singles market. In 1981, the band split. Dobson joined the Castleford rock band Stormer who had a recording contract with Ringo Starr. Scholey departed, leaving the others to settle huge debts incurred whilst touring. The band became a duo of Colin Gibb & Alan Barton.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 13, 2021, 10:31:40 PM
Lick the Tins - Can't Help Falling in Love

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/fe/96/bb/fe96bb8613216aaa12ad12bb3055ff9e--tins-audio.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-__OdJ5b6A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-__OdJ5b6A)

A winsome Celtic jig version of the Elvis classic, as featured over the end credits of the John Hughes film Some Kind of Wonderful. It peaked just outside the top 40.

Quote
Lick the Tins were a Celtic/folk rock/indie band from London. The name was derived from a nickname given to an old tramp by the children from the hometown of one of the band members. They are best known for their cover version of Can't Help Falling in Love. Whereas the Elvis Presley version of the song was long and relaxed, Lick the Tin's version was so manic and fast that it was considerably less than three minutes long. As a result, three Irish reels were added to the end of the track to bring it to the desired length.

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Post by: Phil_A on February 13, 2021, 10:42:34 PM
Grab Grab The Haddock - Last Fond Goodbye (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJZOOk78Cao)

(https://img.discogs.com/NZ7G4AoX5ihbxd0LyqKEDG9o8Lo=/fit-in/450x429/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1670528-1258442157.jpeg.jpg)

EP released on Cherry Red in 1985.

Following the dissolition of the Marine Girls, Jane & Alice Fox formed the ridiculously named Grab Grab The Haddock in 1984 with Steve Galloway, Lester Noel and Tim Hall. They recorded a couple of EPs worth of endearingly shambolic material before breaking up the following year.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 13, 2021, 10:48:33 PM
Crème Brulee - Foxy Lady

A 'nearly made it' act of the 70s, they nearly signed to Pickwick in '76 but didn't.

(https://i.imgur.com/urVC1xG.jpg)
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Post by: daf on February 13, 2021, 10:58:12 PM
It's a shit bizniz!
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Phil_A on February 13, 2021, 11:40:54 PM
Virginia Astley - The Nursery At The End Of Time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RlnZV8-XM0)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gYvQUfUJJ-w/WCPvlQ-l6DI/AAAAAAAARz4/iicPD9NN9swGOC-fNUhH0LXl629NuTvSwCLcB/s1600/Virginia%2BAstley%2B3.jpg)

Final track from Melt The Snow EP, released on Rough Trade in 1985.

Although a relatively marginal figure in the UK, Astley enjoyed some popularity in Japan, which led to her collaborating with Ryuichi Sakamoto on her second full length album Hope In A Darkened Heart, released by Warners in 1986. Prior to that she put out the three track Melt The Snow EP as her final release on Rough Trade
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on February 14, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
Russ Abbot - Let's Go To The Disco (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1H381BRnTQ)

(https://i.imgur.com/g2bksuu.jpg)

Released in November 1985 - reached #86 in the UK chart.

Quote
Following his radically re-worked cover of Joy Division's Atmosphere, Abbot scored a Top 20 hit in July 1985 with All Night Holiday which was housed in an amazing picture sleeve - featuring some of the top celebrities of the day, including : Strawberry Switchblade, Mike Read, John Martyn buried up to his neck in sand, John Prescott man-handing Jo Whiley and Nicholas Lyndhurst with his top off - what a dish!

(https://i.imgur.com/oMkp3as.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/LAi2xYv.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/ew7HdLC.jpg)

His first album 'Russ Abbot's Madhouse', released in 1983 on Ronco, featured some of his rib-tickling madcap characters, including : Julio Doubleglazius, Val Hooligan, The Four Bottoms, and The Constipated Seven Featuring Whispering Hubert. Further albums included 'I Love A Party' in 1985, and 'Songs Of Joy' in 1990 - both platters unleashed by K-Tel.

(https://i.imgur.com/GFZvk9e.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/PUF49tX.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/LmiMFui.jpg)
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 14, 2021, 02:12:11 AM
All I Knew- Madness.  Released on Zarjazz in 1985.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/4npAbu.jpg)

I will be as bold as to say this is one of the greatest songs the band ever recorded.

The B-side of Yesterday's Men. The country was about to go on the ropes, Madness were similarly punch drunk, floundering on the ropes.

"It must get better in the long run?"

Let's throw in Jerry Dammers playing the organ here for extra resonance points.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LMB1BoGQGg
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jamiefairlie on February 14, 2021, 02:40:33 AM
Shop Assistants - Safety Net

https://youtu.be/MugWrKFcGS8 (https://youtu.be/MugWrKFcGS8)

(https://images.shazam.com/coverart/t46762830_s400.jpg)

Formed in 1984 in Edinburgh, this is their third single and it reached number 8 in the Festive Fifty. They released one album before splitting in 1987. I just found out that singer Alex Taylor actually died back in 2005, which is sad.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 14, 2021, 12:48:22 PM
Cabaret Voltaire - Ghostalk

(https://img.discogs.com/WDLTIvoy6mOYII4p6tav2To9oro=/fit-in/600x612/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-51815-1578545324-1371.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjDNRUQ_-P0

Sadly, I won't be posting any more Cabs as the double 12" ep Drinking Gasoline was the last great record they released. I can't think of too many other pieces of music with drum machine programming as judderingly brutal as this. The video is from the Gasoline in Your Eye videocassette. Will they ever make it to the end of the corridor...?
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 14, 2021, 01:05:52 PM
The Cure - A Man Inside My Mouth

(https://img.discogs.com/0dy8xDyIp-xXjLHaDLzpFe9axyQ=/fit-in/499x492/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-493699-1353686852-7242.jpeg.jpg)

(https://img.discogs.com/V8kM6LqLd3QETcztMymb3sP1ihw=/fit-in/598x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1482410-1386972463-4655.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsYFVxOqKMs

From the Half an Octopuss 10" and Quadpus 12" eps. This is another song in their 'broken psychedelia' strand. Fuck knows what it's about. I really wish this had been their direction of travel rather than the chore they became to listen to.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 14, 2021, 01:29:44 PM
Skinny Puppy - Last Call

(https://img.discogs.com/bYY4NHDHXP18syfbss4c4QUO5To=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-81688-1367951538-4236.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmIiq_EHR1c

From their first album Bites. Is that a fragment of Diana Ross lyrics I hear?
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 14, 2021, 01:38:50 PM
Coil - Panic

(https://archive.org/services/img/CoilPanicTaintedLove2PanicRemix/full/pct:500/0/default.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4edlmw8a8n8

The track appeared on 1984's Scatology, but I missed that, so here's the 7" from 1985. The b-side was their cover of Tainted Love.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 14, 2021, 01:55:04 PM
Front 242 - Commando (Remix)

(https://img.discogs.com/vRplFAaDmEFV6Xevl0azs5Q7sz4=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-52677-1539097800-6566.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV1X4XrvceM

Another track originally released in 1984, which I missed. Here's the remix from 1985's Politics of Pressure ep.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 14, 2021, 02:09:58 PM
Pink Industry - State of Grace
(https://img.discogs.com/Ud56mvYhuxghiGUcZ1UPTZf0jpk=/fit-in/597x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-249320-1172700893.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Cd5Q_VHTJU

A standout from what was, sadly, the last Pink Industry album: Jayne Casey went on to join the Bluecoat Arts Centre as director of performing arts, briefly reforming the band for a one-off performance in Sao Paolo in 2012.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 14, 2021, 03:00:01 PM
Killing Joke - Eighties

(https://img.discogs.com/gRJHMdGcQ5pW0hXw_iaJeDSjTzo=/fit-in/600x592/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-8910633-1471286851-2121.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1U1Ue_5kq8

Oh, ffs. The single reached number 60 in the 1984 UK singles chart, so this was actually a CHART SMASH and also I've technically missed the deadline for posting it. However, the album came out in 1985, so that's the version I'm posting.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 14, 2021, 03:37:03 PM
Boy - Book Of Love
(https://img.discogs.com/Ve4N78Cf9I3JupMxMca93HRP1TQ=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-70655-1447956103-3123.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vcjJKNq9EM

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"Boy" was written by band member Theodore Ottaviano and features a prominent tubular bells melody. The band secured a recording contract when a demo was given to DJ/producer Ivan Ivan, who passed it along to Seymour Stein of Sire Records. It describes the frustrations of a woman who is attracted to a gay man and was written about Boy Bar, Ottaviano adding in a 2016 Village Voice interview that the song was "written about Boy Bar, which was a very exclusive gay club in the East Village."

In 1985, a rare Australian promotional video was shot for the single (see above link). On May 21, 1985, the song was featured on American Bandstand's rate-a-record segment. Up against B.E. Taylor Group's "Reggae Rock & Roll", "Boy" won the competition with the score of 84.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 14, 2021, 03:49:21 PM
Faces - Clio
(https://img.discogs.com/Et_jf-cQ_MQB5KFW_OyCPcxypMQ=/fit-in/600x591/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-237007-1387637073-3788.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xd-MIv9uew

To quote the Discogs profile that tickled me for some reason:

Quote
Italian Italo Disco singer. This project only ever released 3 songs, "Eyes", "Faces" and "Feel The Fear".
Other songs credited to "Clio" must be attached to other artist entries.

Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jamiefairlie on February 14, 2021, 04:46:24 PM
The Sisters Of Mercy - nine while nine

https://youtu.be/QtBQsfsURGo (https://youtu.be/QtBQsfsURGo)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/5170MWXHA4L.__AC_QL70_ML2_.jpg)

Taken from their debut (and only, if you're a purist) album, First and Last and Always.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 14, 2021, 06:06:11 PM
Killing Joke - Eighties

(https://img.discogs.com/gRJHMdGcQ5pW0hXw_iaJeDSjTzo=/fit-in/600x592/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-8910633-1471286851-2121.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1U1Ue_5kq8

Oh, ffs. The single reached number 60 in the 1984 UK singles chart, so this was actually a CHART SMASH and also I've technically missed the deadline for posting it. However, the album came out in 1985, so that's the version I'm posting.

I was so impressed with Jaz Coleman dropping the band's lawsuit against Nirvana (over the Come As You Are riff steal) after hearing of Cobain's suicide.

"In the light of Kurt's death, it seemed churlish to pursue"
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jamiefairlie on February 14, 2021, 06:13:15 PM
Killing Joke - Eighties

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1U1Ue_5kq8

Oh, ffs. The single reached number 60 in the 1984 UK singles chart, so this was actually a CHART SMASH and also I've technically missed the deadline for posting it. However, the album came out in 1985, so that's the version I'm posting.

Aye, it was released a very long time before the album and in fact they’d played in on The Tube in 83.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 14, 2021, 06:14:01 PM
Up On The Sun - Meat Puppets Released on SST in 1985

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/DyhPzE.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/oSzxIV.jpg)

I bet Zach Braf likes this band, So do I.

The Meat Puppets are an American rock band formed in January 1980, in Paradise Valley, Arizona. The group's classic lineup was Curt Kirkwood (guitar/vocals), his brother Cris Kirkwood (bass guitar), and Derrick Bostrom (drums). One of the more notable groups on the roster of SST Records (who released most of their early albums), the Meat Puppets could be broadly classified as punk rock, but like most of their SST peers, the Meat Puppets established their own unique style, blending punk with country and psychedelic rock, and featuring Curt's warbling vocals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pNAJFNd8Lk&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Gradual Decline on February 14, 2021, 06:38:40 PM
I was so impressed with Jaz Coleman dropping the band's lawsuit against Nirvana (over the Come As You Are riff steal) after hearing of Cobain's suicide.

"In the light of Kurt's death, it seemed churlish to pursue"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4J2aU6glt0 ... plus many others
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 14, 2021, 07:18:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4J2aU6glt0 ... plus many others

I nominated Life Goes On for 1982 in this thread. I adore that track.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 14, 2021, 07:27:30 PM
I was so impressed with Jaz Coleman dropping the band's lawsuit against Nirvana (over the Come As You Are riff steal) after hearing of Cobain's suicide.

"In the light of Kurt's death, it seemed churlish to pursue"

Ah, that's nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4J2aU6glt0 ... plus many others

Some of these are a bit of a stretch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy4HA3vUv2c&list=PL0tHovxvuAvnUOaDnVqMfshdZptRILAeD

And someone else suggested Hollow Hills by Bauhaus under the video you posted. Wtf?

Out of all of them, Eighties is clearly the closest to Come As You Are.

Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Hooverbag Sherlocks on February 14, 2021, 08:14:50 PM
Lena Platonos - Blood Shadows From A Distance
From her album 'Galop' released in Greece, 1985.

(https://i.imgur.com/SUhWOVQ.jpg)

Ruthlessly seductive synthwave from a former child piano prodigy and (not at the same time) pioneer of early Greek electronic music. It sounds like necromancy but could well be about eating soggy chips in a bus shelter for all I know. Either way, I’m completely sold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIoYrkzTQoE
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jamiefairlie on February 14, 2021, 08:53:53 PM
The Bats - Claudine

https://youtu.be/CxU8gDQ2zMg (https://youtu.be/CxU8gDQ2zMg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9a/Musicforthefiresidecover.jpg/220px-Musicforthefiresidecover.jpg)

Formed in 1982 in Christchurch by Paul Kean (bass), Malcolm Grant (drums), Robert Scott (lead vocals, rhythm guitar, keyboards) and Kaye Woodward (lead guitar, vocals). This is taken from their second EP, And Here Is 'Music for the Fireside'. They went on to release ten albums, the most recent in 2020. Perhaps uniquely, the band has retained the same four members from formation to the present day.
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Post by: daf on February 14, 2021, 09:00:00 PM
Oh yes it is, it really is . . .

Frank Sidebottom – Oh Blimey It's Christmas (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuIUPy3XlU4)

(https://i.imgur.com/nX3nPuQ.jpg)

Released in December 1987 - peaked at #87 in the UK Chart

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Chris Sievey was active as a musician and artist from his early teens, experimenting and recording his music from as early as 1971. He was prolific throughout the 70’s and early 80’s, constantly churning out releases under various monikers: 'Chris Sievey and the Pajama Band', 'Hard Sharks', 'The Bees Knees' and most notably…The Freshies. Chris had a strong pre-punk DIY ethic, setting up his own label Razz Records in 1974 to produce and distribute his own output.

(https://i.imgur.com/0eo9bEm.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/vyzIuZQ.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/qYOjQ20.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/hAH3acr.jpg)

The biggest success for The Freshies was their single “I’m in love with the girl on the Manchester Virgin Megastore check-out desk” which reached the #54 in the UK charts in February 1981.

(https://i.imgur.com/dAtkIwL.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/uLNHqNo.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/LGYLsDN.png)

Frank Sidebottom first appeared on an untitled 1984 EP by Chris Sievey & The Freshies, in a spoken word track wherein Frank talks to Chris. The character was instantly recognizable by his large round head. This was initially made from papier-mâché, but later of fibreglass. Frank, usually dressed in a 1950s-style sharp suit, was portrayed as an aspiring pop star from the small village of Timperley, near Manchester. He still lived at home with his mother, to whom he made frequent references. His mother was apparently unaware of her son's popularity. Frank sometimes had a sidekick in the form of "Little Frank", a hand puppet who was otherwise a perfect copy of Frank.

(https://i.imgur.com/W8ApVoz.png)  (https://i.imgur.com/z6AEjE7.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/vXyBcn6.jpg)

Frank recorded a cover of 'Material Girl', and sent it to several major labels with the note ''I'm thinking of getting into showbiz. Do you have any pamphlets?" EMI were interested and offered him an interview. Chris appeared in character as Frank, and was signed to their sub-label Regal Zonophone. Zonophone released his third EP 'Frank's Sidebottom's Firm Favorites' in August of 1985. He'd previously self released two EPs as Frank in 1985, entitled 'Frank's Summer Special' as well as an early version of 'Firm Favorites'. The EP reached 97 in the UK Charts in August 1985.

(https://i.imgur.com/l68wCjJ.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/FVKVK3f.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/d83zKUw.jpg)

His second Zonophone EP, 'Oh Blimey, It's Christmas' charted slightly higher than the first, at number 87. It was likely the failure of his third Zonophone EP, '12Z41 Sci-Fi EP', that caused him to be dropped by the label. Afterwards he was signed to Marc Riley's In Tape label, on which he would release two albums and four EPs.

(https://i.imgur.com/Suu59Tm.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/w4Y8mFb.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/2gxe4AR.jpg)

Despite the minimal chart success from these EPs, Frank had developed a cult following that allowed him to attract audiences upwards of 500 in Northern England and London. Performances were often varied from straightforward stand-up comedy and featured novelty components such as tombola, and crowd interaction. Sometimes the show also included lectures.

(https://i.imgur.com/P2advCr.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/dxQRFeH.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/nEoNu7G.jpg)

Contrasting with the alternative comedians of the time, Frank Sidebottom's comedy was family-friendly, if a little bizarre for some. In 1986, this family friendly nature lead to Frank getting his own comic strip in the children's weekly comic Oink! . . . Oh yes he did, he really did.

Thankyou!
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 14, 2021, 11:17:45 PM
Kirsty MacColl - He's on the Beach

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a1/ca/6d/a1ca6d7034ed8a7f67762a2c215dac2f.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgvi2T8NLhE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgvi2T8NLhE)

Released on Stiff in 1985, this delightful non-album single failed to match the commercial success of its predecessor, A New England. Disappointed by the failure of what should've been a surefire chart smash, MacColl put her solo career on hold and spent the next few years working as a backing singer (and, as we all know, in December '87 she was the featured guest artist on Fairytale of New York by The Pogues). She returned to the charts with her second solo album, Kite, in 1989.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: badaids on February 14, 2021, 11:21:08 PM
Lena Platonos - Blood Shadows From A Distance
From her album 'Galop' released in Greece, 1985.

(https://i.imgur.com/SUhWOVQ.jpg)

Ruthlessly seductive synthwave from a former child piano prodigy and (not at the same time) pioneer of early Greek electronic music. It sounds like necromancy but could well be about eating soggy chips in a bus shelter for all I know. Either way, I’m completely sold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIoYrkzTQoE

This album is fucking brilliant.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on February 15, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
Les Patterson – Give Her One For Christmas (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhOErOzAjk0)

(https://i.imgur.com/oiZRfmu.jpg)

Released in December 1985 - did not chart

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Leslie Colin Patterson was born on 1 April 1942, in Taren Point, Southern Sydney. In later life, he claimed descent from a certain Ebenezer Patterson, who had been sent to Australia as a convict in the nineteenth century. Little is known of Patterson's present-day family beyond from the fact that he has a sister whose name is either Lois or Noreen (sources differ) and a brother named Gerard, who became a clergyman and later served as an Advisor on Religious Affairs to the Lord Howe Island Chamber of Commerce.

in 1985 he released his first album '12 Inches of Les' which peaked at #77 in the Australian Charts. His debut single, "Give Her One For Christmas", was released in December 1985, and was followed by 'G'Day' in June 1987.

(https://i.imgur.com/1HNVWEa.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/AN9miVZ.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/bn0ZFBz.jpg)

Created by Barry Humphries, the character of Patterson first appeared in a one-man show at the St. George leagues club in Sydney in January 1974. Appearing in the guise of the boorish, loud-mouthed and uncultured Patterson, Humphries claimed to be that club's own entertainments officer as he introduced the next act, Dame Edna Everage. As Humphries recalled, "I understood later that many members of the audience thought Les was genuinely a club official, which says a lot for his charm and sincerity".

(https://i.imgur.com/7yT2IK1.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/hP1gKSo.jpg) 

Later that same year, the character (by now identified as Australia's cultural attaché to the Far East) was revived in a two-week cabaret appearance that Humphries performed at the Mandarin Hotel in Hong Kong. In Humphries' words, "The English merchant bankers and commodity brokers and Australian accountants there all recognised Les as someone they knew in the Australian diplomatic corps, and took him to their hearts."
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 15, 2021, 12:48:06 AM
Killing Joke - Europe

https://youtu.be/OFO5Ye-XLKs (https://youtu.be/OFO5Ye-XLKs)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/17/Killing_Joke_night_time.jpg)

Another track from Night Time, driven by yet another killer riff from Geordie.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 15, 2021, 01:55:27 AM
Cocteau Twins - Pink Orange Red

(https://img.discogs.com/NH8PHLawn8VSPQPt-7TA3iv4fbo=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-184948-1400014725-9841.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmbszBl6cKs

From the first of two 1985 sister eps Tiny Dynamine. This was the record that got me into The Cocteau Twins. Their earlier stuff, bar some notable exceptions, is a bit thin sounding for my liking. On the other hand, the production on Tiny Dynamine is gloriously full and the bass sounds amazing. The sleeve artwork by 23 Envelope is top drawer too.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 15, 2021, 01:59:21 AM
Cocteau Twins - Pale Clouded White

(https://img.discogs.com/-P40NVgyjzw67lbgBV7dhgmKdD4=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-184971-1400015897-6616.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu301WD8Eyk

And the second, Echoes in a Shallow Bay. It was difficult to choose which tracks to post as both these eps are all killer no filler.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jamiefairlie on February 15, 2021, 05:01:08 AM
The Comsat Angels - High Tide

https://youtu.be/b2rQRf8lPg4 (https://youtu.be/b2rQRf8lPg4)

(https://img.discogs.com/lITP5ZP17yCEtGKDYR2rvf7uuvY=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-15149540-1587315105-5553.jpeg.jpg)

Released on the 7 Day Weekend album. This version was recorded for a Janice Long session the previous year.


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Post by: Gradual Decline on February 15, 2021, 06:26:53 PM
Vivien Vee ‎– Alright

(https://img.discogs.com/jE6gQDq27BZL2B9FTQziEpfBlPs=/fit-in/600x604/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-209454-1546706646-9173.jpeg.jpg)

A welcome slice of Italo to liven up a dull Monday...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ-lvpBeJfY
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 15, 2021, 07:04:43 PM
Jamie Principle - Waiting For My Angel
(https://img.discogs.com/8koOgOKuVVUns5FEX1LqWkZ6LnY=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-62220-1501173938-1101.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1NzlSOn0_U

Following on in a similar mood, could this be the first appearance in this thread of Frankie Knuckles?

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For a time, Knuckles worked as a buyer for Importes Etc., a shop that grew out of the I.R.S. record pool. It was here that a young Jamie Principle presented Knuckles with a tape of love songs he'd written for his girlfriend, Lisa. Principle, Knuckles and Loftis began putting together different versions of the songs to play in the club.

Knuckles took Principle into the studio to re-record "Waiting On My Angel" in higher quality. It was the first Chicago track to break into Billboard magazine's "12-Inch Single Sales" chart. The pressing plant, New York's Masterdisk, couldn't keep up. Soon afterwards, Trax Records released an unauthorized cover by Jesse Saunders.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 15, 2021, 07:22:03 PM
R.E.M. - Green Grow The Rushes

https://youtu.be/IxNUOQh65ik (https://youtu.be/IxNUOQh65ik)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/dc/R.E.M._-_Fables_of_the_Reconstruction.jpg)

Taken from their third album, Fables of the Reconstruction. This is probably my favourite pre-fame REM song.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 15, 2021, 07:22:11 PM
I Spy For The F.B.I. - The Untouchables. Released on Stiff in 1985.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/LwUGTG.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/ymLWLd.jpg)

Bit of an anomaly, The Untouchables. Their whole 'rude boy' image and mod/ ska revival sound couldn't have been more unfashionable at that time but somehow they had a big hit in the UK with the Northern Soul tinged, 'Free Yourself' in 1984. This single was the follow-up but 'the fling with an old partner' was over with the British public so it flopped and they went back home. Another fantastic live act. Slick as fuck.

The Untouchables were a Ska and Soul band from the Silver Lake, Los Angeles, California area. They formed in 1981 as part of the embryonic L.A. mod revival, after being inspired by the ska revival/punk rock band The Boxboys. Since some couldn't play instruments, they either hastily learned, or became vocalists. The original lineup included: Kevin Long (vocals), Chuck Askerneese (vocals), Terry Ellsworth (rhythm guitar), Clyde Grimes (guitar), Rob Lampron (drums), Herman Askerneese (bass) and Jerry Miller (vocals, timbales).
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHItHKfzW7A&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on February 15, 2021, 07:45:05 PM
Dermot Morgan – Thank You Very Much, Mr. Eastwood (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHxrDcAjf60)

(https://i.imgur.com/By3UHtC.jpg)

Released in December 1985 - reached Number 1 on the Irish charts (#77 in the UK charts)

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Dermot John Morgan was born in Dublin, and worked as an English teacher at St. Michael's College in Ailesbury Road before quitting to become a full-time performer. Morgan made his debut in the media on the Morning Ireland radio show, and came to prominence as part of the team behind the highly successful RTÉ television show The Live Mike, presented by Mike Murphy.

Between 1979 and 1982 Morgan played a range of comic characters who appeared between segments of the show. Morgan lampooned the rampant Modernism within the Post-Vatican II Roman Catholic Church in Ireland by creating Father Trendy, a wishy-washy, trying-to-be-cool hippie-priest (modeled after Father Brian D'Arcy). Father Trendy always wore an Elvis-style haircut and, sometimes, a leather jacket. He was also given to drawing ludicrous parallels between religious life and secular hobbies in two-minute 'sermons' to the camera.

(https://i.imgur.com/a1YwKJU.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/YuIlkGX.jpg)

In 1982 he released his first comedy single, "A Taoiseach's Lament (Sally O'Brien)" backed with "John Paul (Is On His Way To Wembley)" (Sally O'Brien was a Character in an Irish Beer advert). The follow up, 'Thank You Very Very Much, Mr Eastwood', was a take on the fawning praise that internationally successful Irish boxer Barry McGuigan gave his manager, Barney Eastwood, at the end of successive bouts. The single also featured guest vocals by Ronald Reagan, Bob Geldof and Pope John Paul II, and was the Christmas number one in the Irish singles chart in 1985.

(https://i.imgur.com/FqcaPMq.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/U8fwLXf.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/RmM8QUI.jpg)

Morgan's biggest Irish broadcasting success occurred in the late 1980s on the Saturday morning radio comedy show Scrap Saturday, in which Morgan, co-scriptwriter Gerard Stembridge, Owen Roe and Pauline McLynn mocked Ireland's political, business and media establishment.

(https://i.imgur.com/q8g4HHf.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/7pzib8E.jpg)

The show's treatment of the relationship between the ever-controversial Taoiseach Charles Haughey and his press secretary PJ Mara proved particularly popular, with Haughey's dismissive attitude towards Mara and the latter's adoring and grovelling attitude towards his boss winning critical praise.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 15, 2021, 08:19:35 PM
Dermot Morgan – Thank You Very Much, Mr. Eastwood (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHxrDcAjf60)

(https://i.imgur.com/By3UHtC.jpg)

Released in December 1985 - reached Nubmer 1 on the Irish charts (#77 in the UK charts)

FIND! God bless ya, daf.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jamiefairlie on February 15, 2021, 09:06:50 PM
Suzanne Vega - Small Blue Thing

https://youtu.be/oclv-EqJbvY (https://youtu.be/oclv-EqJbvY)

(https://e.snmc.io/i/300/w/f8b1bc76d5ee6da4e0a2a6aefa08be89/1788047)

Second single and also on her eponymous debut album, released in May.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 15, 2021, 09:38:49 PM
Faces - Clio

A classic!
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 15, 2021, 09:46:41 PM
I Spy For The F.B.I. - The Untouchables. Released on Stiff in 1985.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHItHKfzW7A&feature=emb_logo

Oh yes! Very much in my vintage Adidas bag, that.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Norton Canes on February 15, 2021, 09:49:00 PM
Nitzer Ebb - Warsaw Ghetto (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQma6M1S1pA) / So Bright, So Strong (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE_8FUDqY9E)


(https://img.discogs.com/zvF7it3rhJF38f-jMFLVEGYwNys=/fit-in/600x605/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-117841-1423396726-6145.jpeg.jpg)


Released 1985


(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fb/92/ca/fb92ca0f344e3a3e6a293f33bfc24dfe.jpg)


My dream profession is being Doug McCarthy in a Nitzer Ebb tribute band. Might just post Nitzer Ebb singles here from now on.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Norton Canes on February 15, 2021, 09:51:01 PM
I mean it's not like any of them got into the fucking top 40
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 15, 2021, 09:58:52 PM
Husker Du - Makes No Sense At All

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sqwJRiMCC6g/hqdefault.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zOk7y26Tvw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zOk7y26Tvw)

I linked to a brief biog of the Du a few pages back, so here's some info about this particular song instead.

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Makes No Sense at All was written by Hüsker Dü singer and guitarist Bob Mould. The track demonstrated Hüsker Dü's continued move away from their hardcore punk roots to a more melodic, pop-influenced style. Mould said of the song:

"Makes No Sense at All sums up all the aspirations I had as a songwriter at that point in my life: 'How do I continue mining this somewhat pessimistic outlook on life? How bright is the color of the ribbon that wraps this fabulous wrapping paper around this beautifully dark package? How far can I take this thing?' It's a super simple song, and I play it every night still. It's one of those handful of songs in my catalogue that has so far stood the test of time, and I never get tired of playing it. People in the crowd never get tired of singing it back to me. What a cool song. It's fucking weird to say that about my own stuff, but there are a few where I say, 'Wow, I like that one!'"

Mould described Makes No Sense at All as the song the band would play if they "knew there would only be seven minutes left before the missiles fell."
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on February 15, 2021, 10:00:01 PM
The Coward Brothers - The People's Limousine (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1zhyFvcv9o)

(https://i.imgur.com/TCX5gee.jpg)

Released in July 1985 - did not chart

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Aside from a solo performance at Live Aid, Costello appeared to be relatively inactive during 1985 - producing 'Rum Sodomy and the Lash', the second album by the punk-folk band The Pogues, playing a Miners Benefit, and releasing one new single, "The People's Limousine", as The Coward Brothers with singer/songwriter T-Bone Burnett.

(https://i.imgur.com/yMEZIId.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/evVUjIB.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/DpY8pVm.jpg)

Elvis Costello : "From the spring of 1984 to the spring of 1985, I had undertaken three separate "solo" tours to pay off my legal bills, armed only with a couple of guitars and some clumsy fingers at the piano. On each occasion I shared the bill with T-Bone. In early '85 The Coward Brothers' first and only single was recorded in Los Angeles with David Miner on bass and Ron Tutt on drums. The B-side was a Leon Payne song made famous by Hank Williams, "They'll Never Take Her Love Away From Me," on which the Cowards were joined by D. Miner and Stephen Bruton on mandolin."

(https://i.imgur.com/hJ5VWju.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/WV8ndD3.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/FkXT7R4.jpg)

Elvis Costello : "A proposed guest appearance on the A-side by Bonnie Raitt never came to pass after the singer and guitarist was taken out to supper by the Brothers and all forgot to return to the studio. During the same visit, I went into Sunset Sound Studios to record solo versions of all the then-completed songs for my next record. T-Bone and engineer Larry Hirsch were extremely patient as a collision with a bottle of whiskey gradually undid the session. Despite the ragged nature of the demos, T-Bone and I were able to plan the album sessions while on The Coward Brothers' final comeback tour of Australia and Japan, on which we were the "special guests." We passed the in-flight hours writing out the song titles and then putting the musicians' names against them that might best serve each tune."
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 15, 2021, 10:34:04 PM
Felt - Primitive Painters

(https://www.uncut.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/lawrence.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H23WYe_pxc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H23WYe_pxc)

Lawrence's lot have already become something of a firm thread favourite, so there's no need to explain who they are. This is probably one of their most well-known songs, relatively speaking at least. It was produced by Robin Guthrie from that other thread favourite, the Cocteau Twins, and features Elizabeth Fraser during the chorus.

Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: The Culture Bunker on February 15, 2021, 10:55:22 PM
Husker Du - Makes No Sense At All
I've seen Bob Mould live twice: the first time may have been one of the loudest gigs I've ever been to (my left ear hummed for about five days), the second time he played this - the only call back to his Husker Du days. Actually, I found that run through better than the version linked, which has the same problem I have with most of the Du's recordings: shite drum sound.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on February 16, 2021, 12:02:00 AM
Kenny Everett – Snot Rap ll (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKbj_jau3Qc)

(https://i.imgur.com/y3wz757.jpg)

Released in March 1985 - did not chart

Quote
Maurice James Christopher Cole was born in Seaforth, Lancashire on Christmas Day 1944. After he left school, he worked in a bakery and in the Advertising Department of The Journal of Commerce and Shipping Telegraph. He sent a tape to the BBC in 1962, and was interviewed at the BBC by Charles Fletcher and offered a job as a presenter on the BBC Light Programme, the forerunner to BBC Radio 2. He declined, however, in favour of the less constrained world of pirate radio, where he began his career as a DJ for Radio London. It was while working here, that he was advised to change his name to avoid legal problems. He adopted the name "Everett" from a childhood hero, the American film comic actor Edward Everett Horton.

He teamed up with Dave Cash for the Kenny & Cash Show, one of the most popular pirate radio programmes. His offbeat style and likeable personality quickly gained him attention, but in 1965 he was dismissed after some outspoken remarks about religion on air. Everett returned six months later, however, before being given his own show by Radio Luxembourg in 1966.

(https://i.imgur.com/f1l7Kw3.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/qbDHhy5.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/cBoxmNC.jpg)

Johnny Beerling, a BBC producer, secretly visited Radio London at this time and observed Everett at work : "I saw this man Everett doing everything. In the old way of doing things, the DJ sat in one room with a script. Someone else played the records and somebody else controlled the sound. Yet I see this man who has control of everything."

(https://i.imgur.com/TnbDDEI.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/9uxE98K.jpg)

In 1967, he joined Radio 1, but in 1970, Everett found himself dismissed after suggesting on air that Mary Peyton, the British Transport Minister's wife, had bribed her driving test examiner. The remark was a spontaneous quip, following a news item describing how Peyton had finally passed after many attempts.

(https://i.imgur.com/AhDzp7V.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/0CFNbe0.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/3rcdTgX.jpg)

Following an interview on the BBC Radio Solent children's show Albert's Gang, Everett submitted weekly shows to the station that he had pre-recorded at home. This afforded the BBC the opportunity to vet the shows before broadcast. Everett was then heard on various BBC local radio stations before being reinstated at Radio 1 in April 1973. Here he recorded a weekly show from his home in Wales and it went out at 1:00 on a Sunday afternoon.

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During this time, legislation had been passed allowing the licensing of commercial radio stations in the UK. One of the first, Capital London, began broadcasting to London and the Home Counties in October 1973. Everett joined the station and was given a weekend show, where he further developed his distinctive ideas.

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Everett's first screen appearance was in the 1965 film Dateline Diamonds which had a plot based around the pirate ship MV Galaxy. He also appeared in several television series, beginning in 1968 with a production for Granada Television called Nice Time which was co-presented by Germaine Greer and Jonathan Routh. In 1970 he made three series for London Weekend Television : The Kenny Everett Explosion, Making Whoopee and Ev; and he also took part in the 1972 BBC TV series Up Sunday.

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In 1978, London's Thames Television offered him a new venture, which became The Kenny Everett Video Show. This was a vehicle for Everett's characters, including ageing rock-and-roller Sid Snot, Marcel Wave, a lecherous Frenchman; and "Angry of Mayfair", a right-wing, upper middle class City gent complaining of the permissive, risqué content of the show - such as Arlene Phillips' risqué dance troupe Hot Gossip.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: famethrowa on February 16, 2021, 12:07:51 AM
Husker Du - Makes No Sense At All

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sqwJRiMCC6g/hqdefault.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zOk7y26Tvw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zOk7y26Tvw)

I linked to a brief biog of the Du a few pages back, so here's some info about this particular song instead.

Wow, I'm thinking fake punk band Hard Core Logo kinda ripped off this song (but that's ok for mockumentaries):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8uXFbjIzyo

(and ripped off the intro to "Ignite" by the Damned)

Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 16, 2021, 01:38:52 AM
Wow, I'm thinking fake punk band Hard Core Logo kinda ripped off this song (but that's ok for mockumentaries):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8uXFbjIzyo

(and ripped off the intro to "Ignite" by the Damned)

I've just looked that film up, as I'd never heard of it before. Sounds interesting. But yeah, as you say, if it's a sort of Tap-esque mockumentary about the hardcore punk scene, then ripping off a Husker Du song (albeit one of the poppier Husker Du songs) for a bit of verisimilitude is entirely forgivable.

Mind you, Tap's songs don't tend to be based on any specific source, they're written in a generic hard rock/proggy style. Gimme Some Money, for instance, sounds just like The Yardbirds and the early Stones, but it's still a decent piece of ersatz mid-60s British R&B in its own right.

Anyway, I shall seek out that film!
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 16, 2021, 02:52:08 AM
The Cure - A Few Hours After This...

https://youtu.be/XJIJOVNeG5w (https://youtu.be/XJIJOVNeG5w)


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/af/Inbetween_days.jpg)

Another of those fantastic Cure B-sides, this time to In-Between Days.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 16, 2021, 01:59:19 PM
What's Your Name? - Zinno.  Released on Magic in 1985.

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Fantastically naff, but immensely enjoyable James Bond film sampling novelty electro record from Belgian dance act, Zinno

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/HH4NXj.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwgbqZoD9Yo
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Post by: Rizla on February 16, 2021, 02:30:12 PM
 Full Force - Alice, I Want You Just For Me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_kqJqZMArk)

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Brooklyn collective with an impressive clutch of production credits, including Sam Fox, Britney Spears, Lil' Kim, James Brown, the list goes on. This track was a highlight of the "Hits 4" compilation. Banger after banger on that mother.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e5/The_Hits_Album_4.jpg)
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Post by: Better Midlands on February 16, 2021, 02:42:44 PM
Jasper Van't Hof's Pili-Pili – Hoomba Hoomba (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm7vP1bSo8k&t=4)

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In the summer of 1984, Jasper Van’t Hof, one of the best-known and dynamic pianists and keyboarders of European jazz, burst onto the club scene with the primal force of “Pili Pili”, a 15-minute trance recorded with the percussion formation Isaac Tagul Group of Guinea. The name of the track comes from a little red pepperoni, tried by Jasper in Kinshasa, that has really impressed him: “I can still feel it! It burned incredibly! It was like having a bomb in my mouth.”. The resulting musical piece turned out to be really hot as the record sold over 100,000 pieces. The group took on the name of its title piece and became a hit band, especially in the club and disco scene.

The musical origins of Pili Pili can be tracked back to 1982-83 when Jasper Van’t Hof embarked on a tour in Central Africa and discovered his love for the African Music. Since then he has been drawn back to the black continent again and again. He was the first foreign musician to be invited to the Arts Alive Festival and to play in various townships of South Africa before the end of apartheid, an experience which deeply influenced and inspired him.

Along with the African influences, Pili Pili tried to authenticate its music by including diverse African musicians.  The band cooperated with musicians from various African countries, such as Mali, Kongo, Senegal and Guinea. In 2000, for the first time, Van’t Hof realized a project with South African musicians–  the young Zulu choir Phikelela Sakhula from the city of Durban.
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Post by: Norton Canes on February 16, 2021, 03:07:23 PM
Another of those fantastic Cure B-sides, this time to In-Between Days

What? We're allowed B-sides? Cool...


Depeche Mode - Shake The Disease / Flexible (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmSv6ItlpzU)

Released 1985

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Martin Gore told Record Mirror in May 1985:

"[The song is] a kind of a joke. Cos I'm sure for instance if my mum looked at me now, she'd think 'what has [success] done to you?' And the actual style of the music was meant to be quite jokey, cos if you imagine after the initial New Romantic/Futurist thing, a lot of bands thought we can't make it playing this kind of music, so they all went into salsa, all those trends, trying to hit on something that might be successful. This was trying to combine all these jokey styles."

Never played live.


Depeche Mode - It's Called A Heart / Fly On The Windscreen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KgiLhuJcv8)

Released 1985

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Now a confirmed Depeche Mode classic, the track the band wanted as the A-side.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Better Midlands on February 16, 2021, 03:19:22 PM
Severed Heads - We Have Come To Bless This House (https://youtu.be/oaI2Db3WBoE)

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City Slab Horror is the fifth studio album by the Australian experimental pop music group Severed Heads. First released in 1985 through Ink Records, it is the second major label album the group has ever released, following the 1983 album Since the Accident.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jamiefairlie on February 16, 2021, 05:45:29 PM
The Fall - L.A.

https://youtu.be/GtWfefEGXig (https://youtu.be/GtWfefEGXig)


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/69/This_Nation%27s_Saving_Grace.jpg/220px-This_Nation%27s_Saving_Grace.jpg)

Taken from their eighth album, This Nation's Saving Grace. It reached number 42 in the Festive Fifty.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on February 16, 2021, 06:47:48 PM
Mr Angry (with Steve Wright) – I'm So Angry (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx4H1oACnyk)

(https://i.imgur.com/6v9Lvco.jpg)

Released in August 1985 - reached #90 in the UK chart

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Steve Wright's Afternoon show on BBC Radio 1 became known for cast of zany telephone characters, created and performed by Gavin McCoy, Peter Dickson, Richard Easter and Phil Cornwell. As well as Mr Angry (from Purley), other characters included :
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Dave Double Decks – An over-enthusiastic local radio DJ "Haha, yess indeeedy!" was his catchphrase
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Diamond Geezer – supposed DJ/mixer, and voice for the track "Mr Spoons"
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The "Down-the-Pan" Daleks – two 'retired' Daleks in improbable domestic situations
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Dr Fish-Filleter – source of much innuendo about fishy fingers, etc. Had his own 'jingle' sung by Steve and his Posse when the interview had ended ("Fillet of Fish, Fillet of Fish. O' Give me Fish to Fillet!").
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The Boss – a gentleman with a very deep Caribbean voice who only ever said "yes Sir, Mr Wright sir" to everything he was asked.
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Edward the Garrulous Fencing Champion – his catchphrase is "I epee you"
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Gervais the Hairdresser ("Keep your tongue out!")

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Useless Weather Girl – a parody of the brand of 'bimbo'-esque weather girls seen on British television in the late 1980s. She doesn't know much about meteorology.
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Maggot – an odd character with a high pitched voice.
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Mick and Keef – not the real Mick Jagger and Keith Richard, but impersonations (played by Phil Cornwell, who later did the characters in Stella Street).
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David Bowie – again, not the real Dave Bowie but an impersonation; "Bowie" frequently asked "tell us what the time is"
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Linda Lust – her catchphrase is "Spatula" in a sultry, sensual voice.
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Llama Man – Spoof signature tune: "Llama man, Llama man, does everything a llama can. He can bleat! He can trot! He's got everything a llama's got."
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Motorcycle Courier – who left his motorbike running and would scream "SIGN 'ERE PLEASE!" from his motorcycle helmet regardless of what was asked of him.

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Mr Mad – would phone in, refer to Steve as "Pal" and would ask "Guess where I'm livin' today?" then proceed to name improbable locations (like inside the mace of the House of Commons or inside Paul McCartney's guitar). Then would end the call with vocal whistles and beeps and his catchphrases were "Ravin' mad, pal!" and "Check up from the neck up".
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The Parking Man – constantly shouting two instructions 'You're Alright, You're Alright' and 'Left Hand Down' to someone trying to reverse their van into a parking space. Would sometimes end in a calamitous crashing followed by silence and then 'You're Alright!'
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The Car Cleaner – would phone, but would be impossible to understand anything he (Wright) was saying as he would be cleaning his car. The noise of the vacuum would drown out the majority of the conversation, leaving only innuendo-based snippets.
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Pretentious Music Journalist – supposedly based on a number of 1980s rock/pop reviewers (perhaps especially Simon Reynolds, David Stubbs and Paul Oldfield of Melody Maker), he reads a little too much into a band's songs with over-complex and artistically pretentious monologues where a simple explanation would suffice.
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Sid the Manager – supposedly Steve Wright's agent, a genial but often confused duffer
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Voiceover Man – converses with Steve and 'the posse' about everyday events in then style of an MFI/DFS television advert voice-over.

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The Perv – heard tapping at the window calling "Yoohoo! Hello Stevie! I'm in the corridor..." and describing his startling attire.
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The Geese – out-of-control Canada geese loose in the studio; "can we get the geese out of here please".
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John Bowl – based on the journalist John Cole, who would often lose his temper with Steve, addressing him as a "dough head", and would also always say "Listen, young man, I'll have a little bit less of your lip".
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Boutros Boutros Boutros Boutros – a stuntman who attempted remarkable feats with a staggering lack of success.
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Malcolm from the Arts Council – a well spoken Arts Council official, who would address Wright as "Stephen" and threaten to pull the show's funding when the DJ teased him.
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Mr Contestant – a hopeless call-in quiz-show contestant who would always blow the final part of the answer under time pressure and end with the same nonsensical answer, like "Name the 4 Mutant Ninja Turtles"... "Donatello... Michelangelo... Rafael and, erm, ahhhh" "Got to hurry you" "...eerrmmm, ohhhhhh Hartley Hare!"
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 16, 2021, 07:35:16 PM
Husker Du - Makes No Sense At All

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sqwJRiMCC6g/hqdefault.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zOk7y26Tvw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zOk7y26Tvw)

I linked to a brief biog of the Du a few pages back, so here's some info about this particular song instead.

I feel like an imposter here because this is the only track I know by Hüsker Dü.

Nevertheless, it's great so...

Hüsker Dü - The Wit and the Wisdom

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI6ppNLFRXY

Is any more of their music as dark and aggressive as this? Anything else I've heard by them sounds a bit jolly for me.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jamiefairlie on February 16, 2021, 07:37:24 PM
The Wedding Present - Living and Learning

https://youtu.be/-1DxxSrTSd0 (https://youtu.be/-1DxxSrTSd0)

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Early track only released on the Raging Sun sampler LP.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 16, 2021, 07:41:24 PM
The Fall - L.A.

https://youtu.be/GtWfefEGXig (https://youtu.be/GtWfefEGXig)


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/69/This_Nation%27s_Saving_Grace.jpg/220px-This_Nation%27s_Saving_Grace.jpg)

Taken from their eighth album, This Nation's Saving Grace. It reached number 42 in the Festive Fifty.

Ah, my favourite Fall album by some distance (so much so, I forgot it was released in 1985, right?). I don't recall there being any clunkers at all on it.

I'll go for...

The Fall - What You Need

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjXl6vJdQSA

What you need for your verbose kitchen :-D
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 16, 2021, 07:55:33 PM
Is any more of their music as dark and aggressive as this? Anything else I've heard by them sounds a bit jolly for me.

Diane from their Metal Circus EP is pretty dark, being Grant Hart singing about a friend of his having been raped and murdered from the point of view of the killer. When he starts screaming in the middle its quite something: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEQJvMz4__k
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Post by: Clatty McCutcheon on February 16, 2021, 08:12:57 PM
Diane from their Metal Circus EP is pretty dark, being Grant Hart singing about a friend of his having been raped and murdered from the point of view of the killer. When he starts screaming in the middle its quite something: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEQJvMz4__k

Taken all the way to no. 26 in the UK singles chart when covered by Therapy? in the mid 90s, too.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 16, 2021, 08:20:31 PM
Diane from their Metal Circus EP is pretty dark, being Grant Hart singing about a friend of his having been raped and murdered from the point of view of the killer. When he starts screaming in the middle its quite something: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEQJvMz4__k

That's a bit more like it but it still doesn't have the grrrrr of The Wit and the Wisdom.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 16, 2021, 08:40:07 PM
Mutants Of Mega-City One - The Fink Brothers.  Released on Zarjazz in 1985.

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The Fink Brothers was a bizarre side project from 2000ad comic mega-fans, Suggs & Chas from Madness that only amounted to this one-off single. Great fun, but clearly an idea derived from a boozy afternoon in the Dublin Castle, N.W.1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Rr6nJk9Zb4
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jamiefairlie on February 16, 2021, 08:48:48 PM
The Housemartins - Flag Day

https://youtu.be/8Xxt8gRVLnw (https://youtu.be/8Xxt8gRVLnw)

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Formed in Hull (the fourth best band there) in late 1983 by Paul Heaton (vocals) and Stan Cullimore (guitar), initially as a busking duo. This is their debut single and it reached an impressive number 10 in the Festive  Fifty. They'd release two albums and score a surprise number 1 hit with "Caravan of Love", before splitting in 1988. Heaton immediately formed The Beautiful South and bass player Norman Cook took on the persona of Fatboy Slim and became a major player in the dance scene.
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on February 16, 2021, 09:27:12 PM
Though of course, Cook didn't play on the original single version of 'Flag Day' - it was original member Ted Key on bass, who also gets a co-write credit.

If we believe the sleevenotes to the "Now That's What I Call Quite Good" compilation, it sold 60 copies in New Zealand.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jobotic on February 16, 2021, 09:50:11 PM
Mutants Of Mega-City One - The Fink Brothers.  Released on Zarjazz in 1985.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/vz7Eif.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/KZ1EvO.png)

The Fink Brothers was a bizarre side project from 2000ad comic mega-fans, Suggs & Chas from Madness that only amounted to this one-off single. Great fun, but clearly an idea derived from a boozy afternoon in the Dublin Castle, N.W.1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Rr6nJk9Zb4

I've got that. Mad JD fan when I was 12. Couldn't have remembered anything about the song though.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on February 16, 2021, 10:02:47 PM
He fought the Law and the Lowe won . . .

Nick Lowe - The Rose of England (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwGlzpTWwWo)

(https://i.imgur.com/dXPTk9s.jpg)

Title track of the album 'The Rose of England' - released in August 1985

Quote from: Allmusic
Stephen Thomas Erlewine : "Following through on the roots-rock leanings of Cowboy Outfit, Nick Lowe delivered the delightful The Rose of England. While some of the material is still rather lightweight — “Lucky Dog” and “Bo Bo Skediddle” are defiant and thoroughly entertaining throwaways — much of the record is clever and charming, delivered with laidback confidence from the Cowboy Outfit. “Darlin’ Angel Eyes” and “The Rose of England” are minor classics in the Lowe canon, while his cover of John Hiatt’s “She Don’t Love Nobody” and the revival of the rockabilly standard “7 Nights to Rock” keep the album moving. Still, it’s his stark take on Elvis Costello’s lovely “Indoor Fireworks” that gives the album an anchor, and it’s a performance so affecting that it makes the neutered reworking of “I Knew the Bride” completely forgivable."

(https://i.imgur.com/6fEbNHA.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/ZizpEEf.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/wUb0vVr.jpg)

Shaun Tatarka : "Nick's most consistent album is also my favorite. From the infectious "Lucky Dog" to the irresistible "I Can be the One You Love,' Lowe's pen is as sharp as ever. And with "Indoor Fireworks" and "Everyone" he proves he is also a fantastic interpreter. Even his somewhat ill-advised stab to get back in the top 40 with the Huey Lewis-produced and News-ized “Bride” isn’t as bad as the average Rockpile fan will have you believe. And the title track is an all-time Lowe. Why this clever, witty songwriter and unique singer never caught fire with the public, I will never know.."
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Phil_A on February 16, 2021, 10:29:53 PM
Picky Picnic - My Toast Time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUraru2MSLw)

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Japanese avant-pop duo Picky Picnic had a number of releases from the early to late eighties. This track is from their second album, released on German label Ata Tak and produced by Kurt "Pyrolater" Dahlke

Here's how they were memorably described thusly by Mutant Sounds back in the day:

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Led by Kaoru Todoroki, Picky Picnic have often been pegged as being Residents-like, a descriptor which, while superficially somewhat accurate, fails to adequately prepare you for the very particular and virulent strain of grotesqueness on display here. Like being molested by a gang of muppets, to listen to Picky Picnic is to experience that queer sensation that only emerges when the cheerful and twee becomes fouled and perverted (a tactic that was something of a hallmark of the 80's Japanese underground).
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 16, 2021, 10:33:16 PM
I've got that. Mad JD fan when I was 12. Couldn't have remembered anything about the song though.

I heard that the record label never returned the original artwork to Brian Bolland after it was lent to their art department for printing. One of the two nutty boys has it framed in a spare bedroom, I'll wager. Bolland said he only got paid £100 too.
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Post by: Norton Canes on February 16, 2021, 10:36:35 PM
Mr Angry (with Steve Wright) – I'm So Angry (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx4H1oACnyk)

(https://i.imgur.com/6v9Lvco.jpg)

Released in August 1985 - reached #90 in the UK chart


Mike P did it better (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TIKK-9Z6AQ)
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Clatty McCutcheon on February 16, 2021, 11:09:58 PM
Jesse Rae - Over the Sea

https://youtu.be/dOad0FU9zF8

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/u3bxbUhslCTi5tD_h2w7bpanmh6HFCWef8EVH2cQriGZM1z1w3gue-PskT4Aw163P7JHQaJrR_cTzPCP2H9CHk2dWLlmOKXAZNn5UfSWlUPAbCrFvrr6EnhAa9S2L872ylTq9wMTDQ=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)

A man for whom mixing with P-Funk legends like Bernie Worrell while dressed as a Highland warrior and wielding a giant claymore was the most natural thing in the world.

Reached no. 65 in the UK singles chart in 1985.

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Post by: daf on February 17, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
Black Lace - I Speaka Da Lingo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSjrN5wmRgU)

(https://i.imgur.com/aQDjPEZ.jpg)

Reached #49 in August 1985

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Whittled down to the duo of Colin Gibb & Alan Barton, they played the Northern club circuit using pre-recorded backing tracks. Initially they used the name 'Lace' but soon reverted to 'Black Lace' and recruited a new manager, John Wagstaff.

Black Lace's 1983 "Superman" single was their first one under their own name on the Flair label, and a promotional video was shot at Casanova's nightclub in Wakefield. One of the hired dancers was the then unknown singer Jane McDonald. "Superman" reached No. 9 in the UK chart, but an attempt at a follow-up single "Hey You!" failed to chart despite being BBC Radio One's 'Record of the Week'.

(https://i.imgur.com/TA7Rnuu.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/JMv4U0z.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/v13qwIn.jpg)

The band's biggest success came in 1984 with the single "Agadoo", selling over one million copies worldwide and reaching No. 2 in the UK chart. "Agadoo" was a hit in Europe, South Africa and Australia. The duo recorded their first album 'Black Lace' at Stuck Ranch studios in Denmark. Around this time their record distribution company went into receivership, leading to Black Lace and their record company losing an estimated quarter of a million pounds in unpaid royalties for "Agadoo".

(https://i.imgur.com/rv9AvNR.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/0J33v3n.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/HQym8OW.jpg)

The band's follow-up single, "Do The Conga", reached No. 10 in the UK chart, and the accompanying album 'Party Party – 16 Great Party Icebreakers' sold over 650,000 copies in the first five weeks.

In 1985 another single, "El Vino Collapso", was released, with the video shot in Skegness. It failed to reach the top 40, stalling at No. 42 in the UK Singles Chart due to it being 'banned' by the BBC in the wake of the Heysel Stadium disaster, as it had references to "drinking whilst abroad" and deemed unsuitable for radio play.

(https://i.imgur.com/A392wGN.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/MdIX80L.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/iWXdJZm.jpg) 

Further releases "I Speaka Da Lingo" and "Hokey Cokey" reached No. 49 and No. 31, respectively. Black Lace also participated in the recording of the UK No. 1 hit "You'll Never Walk Alone", as part of the charity ensemble The Crowd, to raise funds for the families of the victims of the Bradford City stadium fire.

Black Lace's second album 'Party Party 2' was released for Christmas 1985, and television appearances included a Black Lace special on the BBC 2 rock show The Old Grey Whistle Test. Because of such a demanding work schedule, Barton and Gibb found it necessary to charter a private aircraft to meet the deadlines, but the band's success led to a tax demand in excess of £100,000.
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Post by: Better Midlands on February 17, 2021, 12:50:29 AM
Jesse Rae - Over the Sea

https://youtu.be/dOad0FU9zF8

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/u3bxbUhslCTi5tD_h2w7bpanmh6HFCWef8EVH2cQriGZM1z1w3gue-PskT4Aw163P7JHQaJrR_cTzPCP2H9CHk2dWLlmOKXAZNn5UfSWlUPAbCrFvrr6EnhAa9S2L872ylTq9wMTDQ=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)

A man for whom mixing with P-Funk legends like Bernie Worrell while dressed as a Highland warrior and wielding a giant claymore was the most natural thing in the world.

Reached no. 65 in the UK singles chart in 1985.

I was going to put Jesse Rae - Rusha (https://youtu.be/68skia4veC0) feat Bernie Worrell and Steve Ferrone (AWB) in the other day, but it was earlier than I expected (1982).
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 17, 2021, 02:51:51 AM
The Jesus & Mary Chain - Never Understand

https://youtu.be/b2bzrCCKDwc (https://youtu.be/b2bzrCCKDwc)

(https://img.discogs.com/o_e29v3DZDfahIEZ6OoMirPq8RA=/fit-in/450x453/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-387160-1153249656.jpeg.jpg)

Formed in East Kilbride in 1983. The band revolves around the songwriting partnership of brothers Jim and William Reid. This is their second single, released in February, it reached number 47 in the UK charts as well getting to number 1 in the Festive Fifty.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 17, 2021, 10:05:34 AM
Ian Dury - Profoundly in Love with Pandora

(https://img.discogs.com/7QR28fyNpF8OAA9MXPNS0mWvg0g=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1548122-1515945050-2813.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhRsvWZ1Hlc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhRsvWZ1Hlc)

Theme tune from the Thames Television adaptation of The Secret Diary of Adrian Mole. It peaked just outside the top 40.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 17, 2021, 12:49:44 PM
Legs (Inside Leg Mix) - The Art Of Noise. Released on China in 1985.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/Y8GoUi.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/xufegi.jpg)

Another eighties music pioneering act who probably inspired many a fledgling electronica artist.

The Art Of Noise began as a project of studio engineer Gary Langan and Fairlight sampler whiz J.J. Jeczalik, who were working together with producer/performer Trevor Horn and pianist/composer/arranger Anne Dudley on several of Horn's productions for other artists. Writer Paul Morley was brought in to tailor the group's image, which was at first that of a faceless "non-group" inspired by early 20th Century modernism. An acrimonious split in 1985 left Art Of Noise as a trio, sans Horn and Morley, and with a more tongue-in-cheek musical direction. Langan moved on amicably in 1987, leaving Dudley and Jeczalik to carry on until they, too, called it quits in 1990. In 1998, Horn, Dudley and Morley temporarily reformed The Art Of Noise with the addition of guitarist Lol Creme. The resulting album, The Seduction of Claude Debussy (1999), was another attempt to raid the 20th Century's musical forms, this time focusing on the life and work of longtime influence Debussy. The group went dormant again in 2000.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaowG0QvlCM
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Post by: Hooverbag Sherlocks on February 17, 2021, 01:47:06 PM
Laibach – Groesste Kraft
Single released on Cherry Red, 1985

(https://i.imgur.com/m2fVsNB.jpg)

“Horribly open to misinterpretation.” When that’s one of the more positive things a critic can say about your modus operandi, controversy is likely to have been a constant career companion. Even more so when your preferred vibe is ‘radically ambiguous’ iconography and totalitarian-style aesthetics. This is the B-side to early single ‘Die Liebe’ from Slovenia’s most misunderstood/reviled/celebrated martial electro-industrialist/gothic disco merchants. Their stated influences were Tito, Toto (unclear whether they meant the dog or the band) and Tati. Shame t.A.T.u. weren’t around at that point. In stark contrast to the roar and thunder of ‘Die Liebe’, and much of their early output, the re-worked version here has a nice haunted/cursed quality to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POBMEud6WBk

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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 17, 2021, 02:14:52 PM
Good call. I'm waiting for '87 to make my Laibach nomination.
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Post by: Norton Canes on February 17, 2021, 02:19:24 PM
Legs (Inside Leg Mix) - The Art Of Noise. Released on China in 1985

Ah, Legs - the failed first release from their first post-ZTT album, before Peter Gunn and Paranoimia hit the top 20. Was massively into AoN in their ZTT phase and remember being really stoked for this single; then hugely disappointed when it turned out to be basically another rehash of Beatbox/Close to the Edit.

The best you could say about the album, In Visible Silence, is that it's at least more substantial than Who's Afraid.
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 17, 2021, 04:46:06 PM
Writer Paul Morley was brought in to tailor the group's image

I always wondered what that insufferable prick brought to the project. Nothing, then.

And he's married to Claudia Brücken.

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Post by: The Culture Bunker on February 17, 2021, 05:25:25 PM
I always wondered what that insufferable prick brought to the project. Nothing, then.

And he's married to Claudia Brücken.
Was, but not for a fairly long time now.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 17, 2021, 06:13:01 PM
I always wondered what that insufferable prick brought to the project. Nothing, then.

And he's married to Claudia Brücken.

Ah that’s a bit harsh. He’ll always have a place in my affections from his NME days with Penman. I place him alongside Tony Wilson as a relatively annoying person who nonetheless made the world a more interesting place.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 17, 2021, 06:31:25 PM
I think Morley is alright. He's a music journalist, he's meant to be annoying.  His Channel 4 series was great.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 17, 2021, 07:01:29 PM
Funkahdafi - Front 242. Released on Operation Afterglow in 1985

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/yQSJcj.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/bhXoAw.jpg)

You can really hear the influence of Brian Eno/ David Byrne on this and subsequently Front 242's influence on The Shamen

Front 242 were formed in Aarschot in 1981 by Daniel Bressanutti and Dirk Bergen.
After a few singles, Jean-Luc De Meyer (vocals) and Patrick Codenys joined the group and the first album, "Geography", was released. At this stage, Dirk Bergen left the group to become their manager.

In 1983, Richard 23 (Richard Jonckheere) joined the group as vocalist/percussionist. With this line-up, the band released many albums of EBM, gaining more popularity with every release. (EBM stands for Electronic Body Music, a term originally coined by Kraftwerk) They also established a solid live reputation, with an energetic show in para-military outfits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5A4n7i5rmE&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 17, 2021, 07:06:10 PM
Ah that’s a bit harsh. He’ll always have a place in my affections from his NME days with Penman. I place him alongside Tony Wilson as a relatively annoying person who nonetheless made the world a more interesting place.

I think Morley is alright. He's a music journalist, he's meant to be annoying.  His Channel 4 series was great.

I liked Tony Wilson. I used to watch The Other Side of Midnight and found him amusing. Morely makes my shit itch.

Was, but not for a fairly long time now.

That's excellent news!
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on February 17, 2021, 07:13:53 PM
That's excellent news!
I remember seeing her and Paul Humphreys from OMD together on some show about 15 years ago, but I gather they split up too, so you might have a chance.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 17, 2021, 10:36:21 PM
The Smiths - Asleep

https://youtu.be/U-GMDMnep3E (https://youtu.be/U-GMDMnep3E)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d0/Thornsmiths.gif)

Released as a B-side to "The Boy with the Thorn in His Side" in September 1985
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Post by: Gregory Torso on February 18, 2021, 12:54:28 AM
Sonic Youth - Brave Men Run (In My Family) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ2fjLD45WQ)

(https://i.imgur.com/b840RRw.jpg)


I always liked how this album flowed together without any space between the songs, it's all very hypnotic and muddy, in a good way. Sonic Youth had an impeccable run of albums through the 80s with Bad Moon, Evol, Sister and Daydream Nation, before becoming grunge darlings in the early 90s.

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[Bad Moon Rising], recorded by Martin Bisi, was built around transitional pieces that Moore and Ranaldo had come up with in order to take up time onstage while the other guitarist was busy tuning his instrument; as a result, there are almost no breaks between the songs on the record, which feature walls of feedback and pounding rhythms. Bad Moon Rising featured an appearance by Lydia Lunch on the album's single "Death Valley '69", inspired by the Charles Manson Family murders. In contrast to their abrasive, atonal material of the time, the band considered the song relatively conventional. Due to a falling-out with [Glenn] Branca over disputed royalty payments from their Neutral releases, they were signed to Homestead Records by Gerard Cosloy and by Blast First in the UK (which founder Paul Smith created simply so he could distribute the band's records in Europe). While even the New York press ignored Bad Moon Rising upon its release, now viewing the band as too arty and pretentious, Sonic Youth was becoming quite critically acclaimed in the United Kingdom, where the new album had sold 5,000 copies in just six months.
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 18, 2021, 01:14:57 AM
The Smiths - Asleep

https://youtu.be/U-GMDMnep3E (https://youtu.be/U-GMDMnep3E)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d0/Thornsmiths.gif)

Released as a B-side to "The Boy with the Thorn in His Side" in September 1985
I do really like Asleep, but the other B-side on the "Boy with the Thorn in His Side" 12 " is maybe my favourite Smiths tune so I'll post it here
The Smiths- Rubber Ring
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG1ZYByvfqQ&feature=emb_logo
I don't think any other song really opens up so much about the relationship between singers and their listeners, how intense and emotional that relationship can be, but also how inadequate it is. It's generous enough to tell the listener that they won't always be hugging the tape deck in their bedroom, but Morrisey's closing line seems to be a recognition that it's painful for him to think of the listeners out-growing him. 

The closing spoken work sample "You are sleeping, you do not want to believe" comes from a documentary-LP claiming to reveal evidence that the voices of the dead can be heard as interference on electronic equipment.
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 18, 2021, 01:39:29 AM
A lot of the rap records of this time start talking about crack...
Too $hort- Girl (Cocaine)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2ywke376NQ
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R2f71f51d1d243b5950e3489ceed1d464?rik=sKdr9E3CQaaifw&riu=http%3a%2f%2f3.bp.blogspot.com%2f-f4EWbSRIvs0%2fUKUH02cxhBI%2fAAAAAAAAIl8%2f5vBXZV_h6vI%2fs1600%2fToo%2bShort%2b-%2b1985%2b-%2bDon%27t%2bStop%2bRappin%27.jpg&ehk=ASE7HdUyBAWb69YES8t1AagqG6Dm1G6C5FH75a8ssYU%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw)
Too $hort, whose output would later become nihilistic and gangsterish, was pretty moralistic and a bit finger-wagging on this song intended as harsh truths that an addict needs to hear.
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 18, 2021, 01:59:58 AM
Roxanne Shante- Bite This (Dub Mix)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5qU0IRNBIM

(https://images.genius.com/66a6c3b1c0800e7dfc10cb586d8a8f44.600x600x1.jpg)

Roxanne Shanté, born Lolita Shanté Gooden took on the stage-name Roxanne when she released an answer record to UTFO's "Roxanne, Roxanne" - pretending to be the woman addressed on the UTFO track. A spate of other records by other rappers followed claiming to be either "The Real Roxanne", Roxanne's brother, Roxanne's sister, parents, doctor. etc.
On this tune, Roxanne Shante takes a pop at other rappers for nicking her lyrics. I've linked to the dub mix, which filts between Roxanne's rapping and some lovely scratching, not sure if it's by Marley Marl or Mr Magic who were both working with her at this time.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 18, 2021, 02:41:25 AM
The June Brides - Josef's gone

https://youtu.be/XJcrck7ymFE (https://youtu.be/XJcrck7ymFE)

(https://www.handsandarms.com/26830-large_default/june-brides-the-12ep-no-place-called-home.jpg)

Formed in London in 1983, by Phil Wilson and Simon Beesley, this is the b-side to their third single "No Place Called Home". They released just the one album before splitting in 1986.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 18, 2021, 07:14:27 AM
Eighth Wonder - Stay With Me

(https://img.discogs.com/7YDb1KGSV-Uwy8GD5H5ZPUaAheo=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-6832296-1427566735-5600.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S56ZBg0F-v4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S56ZBg0F-v4)

The debut single from this Patsy Kensit-fronted pop group was a #1 smash in Italy and a minor hit in Japan, but they'd have to wait until 1987 for a brief taste of pop fame at home in the UK. They split up two years later, and Kensit started to focus exclusively on her acting career.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 18, 2021, 12:15:23 PM
All Night Long - Big Daddy. Released on Rhino in 1985.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/Xb9uvs.jpg)

Have to allow a bit of Lionel Ritchie's magic on this thread via 1959 via 1985.

Big Daddy is an accomplished Rock 'n Roll/Doo Wop band specialising in cover versions of modern compositions. "Dancing In The Dark" and "Hotel California" are notable examples. They formed in southern California in the 1970s as "Big Daddy Dipstick and the Lube Jobs" and eventually gained national attention simply as "Big Daddy" on the Dr. Demento radio show in the USA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuWxQhmMXBE&list=OLAK5uy_kh1Kc1VCnyqX75kbyg8_OWF8lIF_xyfPQ&index=14
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 18, 2021, 05:57:43 PM
The Wake - Of The Matter

https://youtu.be/qNVs5QjkCAM (https://youtu.be/qNVs5QjkCAM)

(http://images.45cat.com/the-wake-of-the-matter-factory-s.jpg)

Their fourth single and first entry since 1983.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 18, 2021, 06:12:15 PM
Quest - Mind Games
(https://img.discogs.com/XHUayX3hKVWjvRIw0x76g0ticOU=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-96180-1611423808-5981.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le1OLHZxWB

This is the first appearance of Liz Torres, the "Queen of House" on a strange paranoid sounding track where Chicago house's partial roots in Cabaret Voltaire and TG are particularly apparent. Quest was an alias of Chicago producer Carl Bias.
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Post by: Norton Canes on February 18, 2021, 06:19:34 PM
Mike Berry - Everyone's a Wally (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTzk6q-V5ss)


(https://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/l/110298-everyone-s-a-wally-the-life-of-wally-commodore-64-front-cover.jpg)


Released 1985

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Everyone's a Wally is a British video game released in 1985 by Mikro-Gen for the ZX Spectrum, Amstrad CPC, and Commodore 64. The sequel to Pyjamarama, it features the same hero character, Wally Week, and uses an upgraded version of the same game engine. The original tape cassette version of Everyone's a Wally featured a Mike Berry song about the game recorded as an audio track on the B side


(https://www.vintageisthenewold.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/everyones-a-wally-crash-cover-431x600.png)


CRASH review (https://www.crashonline.org.uk/14/wally.htm)

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Post by: poodlefaker on February 18, 2021, 07:36:04 PM
Is Big Daddy the first example of different artists with the same name appearing on this thread? Hmmm?
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 18, 2021, 07:55:13 PM
Is Big Daddy the first example of different artists with the same name appearing on this thread? Hmmm?

The Shirley Crabtrees on the Postcard label?
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 18, 2021, 08:56:05 PM
New Order - Sunrise
(https://img.discogs.com/knNIp5pJVUiVsA4Q_bDVvBa-8qA=/fit-in/597x599/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-71229-1339844666-4341.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krDVGJacmmY

The second song running on this album to lift the chord sequence from A Forest by The Cure; here Barney also sounds like he's doing a Robert Smith impression at points (not so much in the live version I've linked for the simple reason that it's better and has some of his trademark whooping). New Order got tantalisingly close to being a really good goth band at points and Sunrise is one of them. This is one of Hooky's best basslines for my money and marks one of the last times they ever sounded committed to what they were doing on record. I've a lot of time for Technique as well but for me this is pretty much where they peak, and only really on live recordings from this period where the Lou Reed chicken scratch rhythm guitar playing isn't drowned out by the same synths every other synth-pop band were using at the time but probably putting a bit more thought into it.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 19, 2021, 02:27:34 AM
The Waterboys - Old England (live) 

https://youtu.be/LrVR2WmP-tA (https://youtu.be/LrVR2WmP-tA)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91d6PX5XbiL._SX466_.jpg)

Originally released on This Is The Sea, this version is a superior live take and the lyrics are sadly just as relevant today.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 19, 2021, 08:58:59 AM
The Replacements - Swingin' Party

(https://magnetmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/replacements540d2.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8ikJiKWubY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8ikJiKWubY)

We'll be fine, folks. We'll all be fine.

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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 19, 2021, 10:26:03 AM
This Is What's She's Like - Dexy's Midnight Runners. (The Director's Cut version) Released on Mercury in 1985. Peaked at 78.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/VE3IbN.jpg)

From the band's so-called "double glazing salesmen" period, the ill-fated but highly revered, 'Don't Stand Me Down' album. This epic number goes all Dexy's Light Orchestra in the middle if you decide to get that far.

Dexys Midnight Runners (currently officially Dexys, their former nickname, styled without an apostrophe) are an English pop band with soul influences from Birmingham, who achieved major commercial success in the early to mid-1980s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o94-YJlyCa4&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: Johnny Yesno on February 19, 2021, 11:37:37 AM
Quest - Mind Games
(https://img.discogs.com/XHUayX3hKVWjvRIw0x76g0ticOU=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-96180-1611423808-5981.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le1OLHZxWB

This is the first appearance of Liz Torres, the "Queen of House" on a strange paranoid sounding track where Chicago house's partial roots in Cabaret Voltaire and TG are particularly apparent. Quest was an alias of Chicago producer Carl Bias.

I'm getting 'Video not available'. I wonder if we're in different regions.

Here's an alternative: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvXGX5FXwNk&list=OLAK5uy_mRh2g6Srw_3SHDnJepBFMkgqaFSOZBPDw

Also, I'm not so sure that by this point, the Cabs were setting any agendas. They were listening to American electro and were on a trajectory to becoming full-on acid house ravers.
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Post by: daf on February 19, 2021, 12:19:39 PM
Jaaaaazzzzzzzzz . . .

Sting - The Dream Of The Blue Turtles (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9VU-o53ALU)

(https://i.imgur.com/XUg0kQZ.jpg)

Title track of the album "The Dream Of The Blue Turtles" - released in June 1985

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The Dream of the Blue Turtles was the first solo album by ex-policeman Sting [a nickname he picked up in school after it was discovered he had a 'tiny prick']. The project took shape in January 1985 upon meeting saxophonist, Branford Marsalis.

Sting : "We got on like a house on fire and started talking about music. I said I was interested in starting a band. I didn’t specify what type of band it would be. But obviously, the people he knew from the jazz world were from that world. They came from Weather Report, Miles Davis. . . The first person he brought to my attention was Kenny Kirkland, who was this amazing piano player."

(https://i.imgur.com/cn65WMi.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/5Dgbrvc.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/q4klRPh.jpg)

'The Dream Of The Blue Turtles' was originally conceived as just one of the three separate solo projects embarked on following the global success of The Police's 1983 'Synchronicity' album and its subsequent world tour, which stretched into 1984.  Andy Summers recorded an album, 'Bewitched' with Robert Fripp in 1984, while drummer Stewart Copeland released 'The Rhythmatist' in 1985.

(https://i.imgur.com/vOTBvHF.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/hqm0UEV.jpg)

Sting : "The musicians knew where I was coming from, and the idea was not really to make a jazz record. We made a record with a feel of jazz, maybe, but the music was arranged and then we played it. Then everybody said, 'Oh, I’m making a jazz record. But that wasn’t the case. . . It’s the same way I’ve always worked. Music is a happy thing, and this group of musicians were all happy to be there working with me, working on this material, so it was a lovely experience."

Nice!
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 19, 2021, 06:44:35 PM
The Dentists - I Had an Excellent Dream

https://youtu.be/YH7IcMoJ-pM (https://youtu.be/YH7IcMoJ-pM)

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71SGMD+r-lL._SS500_.jpg)

Formed in Kent in 1984, this is from their debut album, Some People Are on the Pitch They Think It's All Over It Is Now. They released four albums in total, the last in 1995.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 19, 2021, 07:55:28 PM
RE: The Dentists.

Says video unavailable, Jamie.  Well, for me in the UK.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 19, 2021, 08:42:07 PM
Try this one. Must be a location issue.

https://youtu.be/7gn5jTfj2fk (https://youtu.be/7gn5jTfj2fk)
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Post by: Hooverbag Sherlocks on February 19, 2021, 11:07:21 PM
Wayne Smith - Under Mi Sleng Teng
Single released on Greensleeves Records, 1985

(https://i.imgur.com/FBWWvrs.jpg)

Wikipedia knows best:
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Sleng Teng is the name given to one of the first fully computerized riddims, influential in Jamaican music. The riddim, which was created by the collaboration between King Jammy and Wayne Smith, was titled "Under Mi Sleng Teng" in 1984. Wayne Smith found the computerized sound in Noel Davey's keyboard, and together he and Davey arranged the riddim, slowed it down, matched it to Smith's key, and rehearsed on it with lyrics inspired by Barrington Levy's "Under Mi Sensi" and Yellowman's "Under me fat ting" before taking it to Jammy's studio in late 1984. The riddim is based on a pattern found on the Casio MT-40 home keyboard. The synthesizer pattern itself has been speculated to be an attempt to recreate Eddie Cochran's 1959 rockabilly song "Somethin' Else; The pattern's creator, Casio's Product Development and Music Engineer Hiroko Okuda, has denied the Cochran song to be the source, saying instead that it was based on a 1970s British rock song she declined to identify but has been suspected to be the David Bowie song "Hang On to Yourself". Sleng Teng is among the most versioned (rerecorded) of Jamaican riddims, listing around 450 versions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdRu0ACEbw8

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Post by: famethrowa on February 20, 2021, 08:08:33 AM
Jaaaaazzzzzzzzz . . .

Sting - The Dream Of The Blue Turtles (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9VU-o53ALU)
Absolutely not my thing, but it's ok I guess. Main problem is that it elevated jazz nerds like Kenny Kirkland and the aforementioned Marsalas' to godlike status amongst fans of "proper" mid-80s rock, along with the very idea of sterile jazz inserted up in the arse of pop.  A concept that I manage to assauge by watching this clip of Sting's jazz lords fucking up a very simple song:


https://youtu.be/HVOuaIZgFWI

Oh and that DX7 organ sucks
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 20, 2021, 09:55:14 AM
Wayne Smith - Under Mi Sleng Teng
Single released on Greensleeves Records, 1985


Copasetic! I was going to nominate that but thought it was a 1986 cut.
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Post by: daf on February 20, 2021, 10:07:51 AM
Absolutely not my thing, but it's ok I guess.

Haha - no, it's horrible muck! Just couldn't resist the pungent whiff of 'Jazz Club' it exuded!
 
I did buy the tape at the time, but this, and the follow-up live album, pretty much killed my interest in throwing my dosh at any further Sting albums stone dead.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 20, 2021, 10:14:30 AM
Panties Please -  Bogshed. Taken from the 'Let Them Eat Bog-Shed' EP Released on Vinyl Drip in 1985.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/AlKvbF.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/sYueh4.jpg)

Probably, one of the most 'Peeliest' bands ever? Make The Nightingales seem like Prince & The Purple Revolution.

Bogshed were a pop group formed in Hebden Bridge, West Yorkshire, England in 1984, originally as The Amazing Roy North Penis Band. The band formed in early 1984 and comprised Phil Hartley (vocals), Mark McQuaid (guitar), Mike Bryson (bass guitar), and Tris King (drums). Bryson also produced the cover art for the band's releases.[2] The name came from a misheard line in a song, with Hartley explaining "I like the way that the mouth moves when you say Bog Shed".They were helped initially by The Membranes, leading to several performances in London, and the band's first release was the Let Them Eat Bogshed EP on John Robb's Vinyl Drip label in 1985. By the time of this release, the band had already played around 35 concerts and, according to Hartley, written between 80 and 100 songs. Mike Bryson currently records under the name of Forkeyes.
Phil Hartley died on 11 October 2006. Tris King died on 21 December 2008.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN7NPr2XZ14&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 20, 2021, 04:35:45 PM
The June Brides - In the rain

https://youtu.be/5ukbxQiWFG8 (https://youtu.be/5ukbxQiWFG8)

(https://img.discogs.com/ingIaLOwbdVwsmRlOu715vucAt8=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-1368453-1214975499.jpeg.jpg)

Debut single from the 'trumpetastic' London combo.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 20, 2021, 05:05:55 PM
Billy Connolly - Super Gran

(https://img.discogs.com/-trn--Qx47UfblRjUm3dy1RoqlI=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-1569899-1456345796-4788.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54XfsKx0R8I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54XfsKx0R8I)

The Big Yin, with his voice like a goose farting in the fog, makes the most of some tortuous rhymes here.

"Don't wanna cause a ruckus for B.A. Baracus... and big Stallone, he's just another phony..."

A Stiff Records release, it reached # 32 in the hit parade. So it was technically a hit.

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Super Gran was a children's television series about a grandmother with super powers. She acquired her powers when she was accidentally hit by a magic ray created by an eccentric inventor. Under the guise of Super Gran, she protected the residents of the fictional town of Chiselton from villains such as Roderick 'Scunner' Campbell and his gang.

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Post by: Phil_A on February 20, 2021, 05:30:59 PM
Microdisney - Loftholdingswood (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP-kXwwg__A)

(https://img.discogs.com/d2AyGIIdPBx-4aHAaMU-8xaxzqA=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1053085-1303222623.jpeg.jpg)

From the "In The World" EP, released 1985.

By the time of his EP, released between their first two LPs, Microdisney were now at last a full band with the inclusion of Tom Fenner(drums, Nick Montgomery(keyboards) and Jon Fell(bass). The lyric of stand-out track Loftholdingswood is somewhat elusive, but it's apparently a satire on Anglo-Saxon naming conventions according to Cathal.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 20, 2021, 05:59:58 PM
Gary Numan - I Still Remember
(https://img.discogs.com/Gyt1eeIu0o-7-RhtpkpG8fB0gnQ=/fit-in/600x639/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-2442896-1284316103.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uGKhcCePaI

The Fury is often dismissed but I've got a soft spot for it, from the trademark "Looking like a twat" cover picture in his white tuxedo to how tremendously dated the whole thing is to the bit in This Disease, Numan's attempt at writing about AIDs where he yells "WHO IS TALKING?" in the voice of a man who is arguing with himself. Numan enlisted the production assistance of the Wave Team to help him figure out how to use the PPG Wave which a lot of this album is based around, and impressed by his work on the Blade Runner soundtrack he also hired Dick Morrissey to play sax on the album. All over the album, shoving sax in any space where saxophone can possibly fit and some where it doesn't. Numan doesn't like this album anymore and prefers to imitate Trent Reznor imitating Telekon: there is however some genuinely good stuff on the record such as this, the closing track which is conducted at a funereal pace. Opens with the sax blurting and blatting that characterises the record with some creaky fretless bass and elegaic sounding synth textures. Numan's voice quivers like an android Ian Curtis; halfway into the song, the room fills with memories of light.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 20, 2021, 07:19:39 PM
Good Times and Bad (Extended mix) - Fine Young Cannibals  Released on London in 1985.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/Ewuwsi.jpg)

B-side of 12" of their debut single, Johnny Come Home.  I wish FYC had done more instrumentals like this. The last remanent of their old Go-Feet sound. Great early use of dialogue sampling too. Ronald Reagan, in this case.

Fine Young Cannibals were a British pop-rock band with soul influences formed in 1984 in Birmingham by Andy Cox & David Steele formerly of The Beat along with singer, Roland Gift.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOg-likgksU
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Post by: jobotic on February 20, 2021, 08:37:16 PM
Panties Please -  Bogshed. Taken from the 'Let Them Eat Bog-Shed' EP Released on Vinyl Drip in 1985.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/AlKvbF.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/sYueh4.jpg)

Probably, one of the most 'Peeliest' bands ever? Make The Nightingales seem like Prince & The Purple Revolution.

Bogshed were a pop group formed in Hebden Bridge, West Yorkshire, England in 1984, originally as The Amazing Roy North Penis Band. The band formed in early 1984 and comprised Phil Hartley (vocals), Mark McQuaid (guitar), Mike Bryson (bass guitar), and Tris King (drums). Bryson also produced the cover art for the band's releases.[2] The name came from a misheard line in a song, with Hartley explaining "I like the way that the mouth moves when you say Bog Shed".They were helped initially by The Membranes, leading to several performances in London, and the band's first release was the Let Them Eat Bogshed EP on John Robb's Vinyl Drip label in 1985. By the time of this release, the band had already played around 35 concerts and, according to Hartley, written between 80 and 100 songs. Mike Bryson currently records under the name of Forkeyes.
Phil Hartley died on 11 October 2006. Tris King died on 21 December 2008.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN7NPr2XZ14&feature=emb_logo

I came to post that one! It'll have to be fat Lad Exam Failure then.

Didn't know about the sad deaths.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 20, 2021, 10:04:44 PM
It's always a bit of a 'gulp' when it's band members from 80's acts you learn to have died.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 21, 2021, 12:09:17 AM
It's always a bit of a 'gulp' when it's band members from 80's acts you learn to have died.

Especially if it's a few years ago, seems worse somehow, like the singer from Shop Assistants dying back in 2005.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 21, 2021, 09:55:02 AM
Horsin' Around - Prefab Sprout. Released on Kitchenware in 1985.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/l8u7Qv.jpg)

Sorry Jamie, I know you can't bear this lot but I do like to occasionally bring some 'pop' to this thread as most of us here (including me) seem to dwell on the 'alternative' angle from the thread title.  This album is pretty much flawless to my ears.
Here is the bossa nova number from the LP. Nobody does wistful better.

Prefab Sprout were an English pop band from Witton Gilbert, County Durham, who rose to fame during the 1980s. Seven of their albums reached the UK Top 30.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMIXwZRygmw&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: daf on February 21, 2021, 01:40:03 PM
Tynal Tywyll - C.C.C. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXqfHPnFP8E)

(https://i.imgur.com/f0z2NRP.jpg)

Released in 1985 on the DIY compilation cassette "O'r Ystafell Wirion" [From the Funny Room] - did not chart

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Tynal Tywyll were formed in Tregarth, North Wales in 1984 by singer Ian Morris [who was a choirboy at Bangor Cathedral at the same time as Aled Jones] and guitarist Nathan Hall. Other members included Dylan Huws (guitar), Dafydd Felix Richards (keyboards), Gareth Williams (bass) and Gareth Hughes (drums).

They took their name [dark tunnel] from a local tunnel though the side of a mountain that carried slates from the Bethesda quarry to Tregarth.

(https://i.imgur.com/XiiTfie.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/3obWaPN.jpg)

Often thought of as the 'Welsh Smiths', they are actually more like the 'Welsh Lloyd Cole & the Commotions'
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 21, 2021, 04:37:18 PM
Death In June - The Honour of Silence
(https://img.discogs.com/lyLMNKI0Vl9x1ZdZiISStjQe0aA=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-80573-1537796204-8020.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JlJPknNkqw

Regardless of Douglas P being obviously incredibly dodgy, it hadn't quite yet become obvious in 1985 and his aligning his dabbling with Third Reich imagery with his fixations on Mishima and Genet made it more plausible that this was just an attempt at subversion in the tradition of DAF or Throbbing Gristle. When I look at Douglas Pearce's life I find it absolutely fascinating in a morbid way: here is a man who started out in the great left-wing punk band Crisis whose uniform fetish took over his life and turned him into a right-wing nutjob. This track anyway is excellent: the theme song to a gay Nazi spaghetti Western.
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Post by: daf on February 22, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
Datblygu - Y Teimlad (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2geUqbk3qY)

(https://i.imgur.com/WQ7uswW.jpg)

Released in March 1985 on the album 'Cam O'r Tywyllwch'

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Datblygu were formed by vocalist David R. Edwards and instrumentalist T. Wyn Davies in 1982 while they were at Ysgol Uwchradd Aberteifi in Cardigan, with instrumentalist Patricia Morgan joining in 1984.  Edwards' lyrics were almost entirely in the Welsh language [good lad!], the subject matter reflecting his "extreme disillusionment" with life in Wales in the early 1980s era under that horrible bastard Margaret Thatcher.

In 1983 they released 100 copies of the four-song cassette EP "Amheuon Corfforol" [Physical Doubts] on the 'Casetiau Neon' label. A seven-song mini-album "Trosglwyddo’r Gwirionedd" [Transferring the Truth] followed later in the year. The songs were recorded between July 1982 and July 1983 at Gwelfryn Studios. The print run again was an OCD-approved 100 copies.

(https://i.imgur.com/aV1bFPX.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/iqedrT4.jpg)

Again limited to 100 copies, their next cassette, 'Fi Du' ['Black Me' / possibly a pun on 'V.D.'?], was a full 11-track album, and was subtitled accurately 'Datbygu's Third Cassette'. Their fourth tape release was a six-track EP 'Caneuon Serch I Bobl Serchog' [Love Songs for Sexy People] - both tapes were released in 1984.

(https://i.imgur.com/kWL4ae1.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/ZpZNT6k.jpg)

They made their vinyl debut with two tracks, "Y Teimlad" [the Feeling] and "Nefoedd - Putain Prydain" ["Heaven - British Prostitute"], on the multi-artist compilation album 'Cam o'r Tywyllwch' [A Step out of the Darkness], organised by Rhys Mwyn from Welsh Punk band Yr Anrhefn. The album also featured the debut of Gruff Rhys on disc - drumming for the band Machlud [Sunset].

Gruff Rhys : "They were an underground band who started releasing cassettes in 1982 and are from Aberteifi in South West Wales, so they weren't part of a scene. They were from a small, working class town where, strangely, an interesting guy called Malcolm Neon had set up a cassette label, releasing electronic music in the Welsh language. So they kinda fit in – he put a tape of theirs out and gradually they released more albums, which would end up on the Anhrefn, a punk rock Welsh language label which John Peel started to play."

(https://i.imgur.com/UNGxXO1.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/D4uitvP.jpg) 

'Y Teimlad' was later covered on Super Furry Animals 2000 album 'Mwng' [Mane]

Gruff Rhys : "Y Teimlad is a song by Datblygu that was recorded in 1984 and literally it translates as 'the feeling', but it sounds much more profound in its original state. David R Edwards, who wrote the song, is a lyrical genius. It's an incredibly simple song but very profound. It's just a shame that more people don't speak Welsh and can appreciate the lyrics he's written. It's one of the most straightforward songs he's written. Datblygu means 'developing', so a lot of the music he wrote was very improvised, experimental. They were a big influence on us, especially their lyrical outlook. It's a song about love, or it's a song about not knowing what love is or what love means. The original is a really raw, kinda electro, dissonant song, but it could it could be made in a Sinatra style. Musically it's a live song, probably the most straight thing we've ever recorded."

Chorus :
The Feeling, What is the Feeling?
The Feeling . . that's without explanation
The Feeling, What is the Feeling?
The Feeling that is called Love
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Post by: SpiderChrist on February 22, 2021, 08:23:16 AM
The Winans - Let My People Go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBcrCermCQg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBcrCermCQg)

Fabulous bit of gospel soul that compares the South African apartheid regime to that of Pharoah's treatment of the Israelites. Amazing vocal performance. Reached Number 71 in the UK singles chart.

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The Winans are an American Gospel music quartet from Detroit, Michigan consisting of brothers Marvin, Carvin, Michael and Ronald Winans. Brothers Ronald, Marvin, Carvin, and Michael Winans (the second, third, fourth and fifth siblings of the Winans family) grew up in Detroit, Michigan and were discovered by Andrae Crouch, who signed them to Light Records.

(https://images.worldofrarebooks.co.uk/vinyl1573723295MRV_1.jpg)
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 22, 2021, 03:03:37 PM
Pretty U Ugly I - Peter Blegvad Released on Virgin in 1985.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/422ofx.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/xTM6Em.jpg)

Enjoy the silky-voiced charms of the Renaissance man, himself.

Peter Blegvad is an American musician, singer-songwriter and cartoonist born August 14th, 1951 in New York City.

Past Bands : Slapp Happy (1972-74), Faust (1973), Henry Cow (1974-75), Kew.Rhone (1976), The Lodge (1982-88), Golden Palominos (1985-87). 
Current Activities : solo, collab with Andy Partridge and today, Peter Blegvad Trio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BuDoE3pblY&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 23, 2021, 03:25:26 AM
Alaap- Bhabiye Ni Bhabiye (live)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azd0djlpDpo&feature=emb_logo
(https://a2zbhangra.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/alaap.jpg?w=620)
In response to the success of Live Aid, many other similar events were held in 1985, including "Asian Live Aid" held in Birmingham Odeon and featuring many acts playing Bhangra music including Alaap, who formed in Southall, London in 1977, lead by Channi Singh and Harjeet Ghandi.
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 23, 2021, 03:47:53 AM
Jean Adebambo- Woman in Love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub64r3Wwf7Q
(https://img.discogs.com/nbSus7o0qyfrGx-4LhMCorYtBQ4=/fit-in/600x562/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-3392659-1409438775-3082.jpeg.jpg)
A brittle, taut reggae version of the Barbara Streisand hit from the Islington-based lover's rock vocalist. The segue into "Walk on By" is a bit strange but the opening half of this gets a lot of re-plays from me.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 23, 2021, 04:25:31 AM
ok, last calls for 1985 entries, 1986 will start later on Tuesday.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 23, 2021, 08:12:53 AM
The Hit Parade - You Didn't Love Me Then

(https://images.genius.com/6ffb7aeb2dfeb74bb0a12644efa0e6de.587x587x1.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwaMXlr9Odk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwaMXlr9Odk)

Another textbook John Peel and Janice Long band. With 1986 just around the corner, we will definitely be hearing more of This Sort of Thing. Zip up yer anoraks...
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Post by: poodlefaker on February 23, 2021, 02:44:14 PM
I don't remember Peel playing The Hit Parade at all in the mid-80s, tbh. Nor them getting any coverage in the NME etc. They were strictly fanzine-level, and only really one fanzine: Are You Scared to Get Happy, which is where I first read about them and became a fan. They had released about 4 singles by then, but I don't recall them  being played or written about anywhere else.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 23, 2021, 03:09:17 PM
According to my diligent research, Peel and Long played records by the The Hit Parade quite frequently on their shows in the mid-'80s.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 23, 2021, 04:46:53 PM
According to my diligent research, Peel and Long played records by the The Hit Parade quite frequently on their shows in the mid-'80s.

At least once!

07 September 1988 - Hit Parade: My Favourite Girl (album - With Love From... The Hit Parade) JSH JPEW1
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 23, 2021, 05:02:04 PM
That counts as frequent in my book.

To be pedantically honest, I only referred to them as a textbook Peel/Long band in the spirit of affectionate shorthand. I was talking about the aesthetic, maaaaan.
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 23, 2021, 05:51:35 PM
Sparky D vs The Playgirls- The Battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ3IqEDq6hg&feature=emb_logo
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.3GYNx2RP530BVopVOZ3BQAAAAA?w=127&h=185&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7)
Splendid battle rap between Sparky D, who also made a few "vs" records with Roxanne Shante, and the Playgirls, about whom not much info can be found.
Autechre fans will notice Sublimit is pretty heavily based on samples of this.
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 23, 2021, 06:02:09 PM
Eric Clapton and Michael Kamen- Edge of Darkness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o55DQSs-k_w
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.5Avct4ZYjd9fSn6EyB0QyAHaEK?pid=ImgDet&rs=1)
Maybe the most disappointing musician ever? The man who had poured fire all over Lennon's Cold Turkey and served up some beautifully wistful pop on "Badge", had disgraced himself with a notorious racist outburst and subsequently become a crushing bore, exemplified by his tedious album "Behind the Sun" released in 1985. But in the same year he poured the emotional depth he was always capable of, if he'd but known how to access it, into the brilliant soundtrack to BBC's even more brilliant nuclear-power paranoia drama Edge of Darkness. Who was he, really?
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 23, 2021, 07:30:45 PM
Please Don't Go - Madness   Released on Zarjazz in 1985.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/dZjeun.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/UHir1f.jpg)

Probably, last entry for the Nutty Boys in this epic thread with a B side that channels The Monkees, Their spiritual ancestors?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROPddira6ZE
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Post by: Hooverbag Sherlocks on February 23, 2021, 09:10:29 PM
D&V - Al Sithi
From the album 'Inspiration Gave Them The Motivation To Move On Out Of Their Isolation'
Released on Crass Records, 1985

(https://i.imgur.com/3QdMAMn.jpg)

If nothing else, candidate for worst album title of this or any year. Short-lived and largely ignored project featuring Andy Leach on d(rums) and Jeff Antcliffe on shouty v(ocals). So far, so trad anarcho-punk. Crass founder Penny Rimbaud engineers an altogether stranger avant-punk brew, though, with a backdrop of offbeat samples and vocal aerobatics courtesy of fellow band members Eve Libertine and Joy De Vivre. Something of a curio but an oddly beguiling one nonetheless. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK6kbPWy_xA&t=45s
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Post by: Astronaut Omens on February 24, 2021, 12:49:36 AM
Speaking of Avant-punk, this Yugoslavian cassette track has some snarly punky vocals but apart from that is really rather difficult to categorise:
Silver Barracudas-Untitld 2
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3UDLHG-H_zU
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 24, 2021, 05:28:43 AM
Welcome to 1986!

(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/football/spark/LG/maradona-handball-shilton.jpg?imwidth=450)
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 24, 2021, 05:32:21 AM
The Beloved - A Hundred Words

https://youtu.be/73hBGoSVcug (https://youtu.be/73hBGoSVcug)

(https://img.discogs.com/OhTsax1pBMlX1UZEd5ijroFnb14=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-14645250-1578819528-2634.jpeg.jpg)

Formed by Jon Marsh and Steve Waddington in 1983, initially named  The Journey Through, later in the year they recruited bass player Tim Havard and changed their name to The Beloved. This is their debut single it reached number 34 in the Festive Fifty. They went on to release a number of great singles but, in the middle of recording their debut album, they split in 1987.
Marsh and Waddington took ecstasy, grew their hair, took to wearing massive flares and dance like buffoons and, inevitably, gained massive success and made a video surrounded by nude super models. Those tawdry years shall not concern us here.
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Post by: sirhenry on February 24, 2021, 07:28:19 AM
Chumbawamba - Slag Aid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXmEAUTeVoY

(https://images.991.com/large_image/Chumbawamba+Pictures+Of+Starving+Children+-687695.jpg)
Despite having been listening to loads of cassettes[1] and an EP or two by the Chumbas for the previous few years, in 1986 we finally got to hear the first album by the denizens of Vegan Terrace in Leeds, Pictures of Starving Children Sell Records. It was their response to Live Aid and echoed the feelings of a lot of us as we saw nothing change but the smugness of megastars.

I chose Slag Aid (AKA How To Get Your Band on Television) because it fits so well with CaB’s treatment of celebrities. When I first came here years later, this is what a lot of the humour reminded me of, but without the politics behind it.

Otherwise I would have chosen the track Unilever, (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKGTUb9R-Oc), inspired by a series of apartheid South African ads for Unilever products with the unsubtle concept of ‘White is Better’ underpinning them. “Unilever: we sell whitewash” - it still rings out every time I see a Lever/Unilever product.
 1.  I think I got through 2 copies of Be Happy Despite it All due to overplaying
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 24, 2021, 10:06:44 AM
The Beloved - A Hundred Words

Formed by Jon Marsh and Steve Waddington in 1983, initially named  The Journey Through, later in the year they recruited bass player Tim Havard and changed their name to The Beloved. This is their debut single it reached number 34 in the Festive Fifty. They went on to release a number of great singles but, in the middle of recording their debut album, they split in 1987.
Marsh and Waddington took ecstasy, grew their hair, took to wearing massive flares and dance like buffoons and, inevitably, gained massive success and made a video surrounded by nude super models. Those tawdry years shall not concern us here.

Didn't know they'd been going that long. Another blot on my copybook, I thought Happiness (1990) was a wonderful album.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 24, 2021, 10:24:42 AM
Grab Hands - Stump  Released on Mud On The Colon EP on Ron Johnson in 1986.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/fK27Zl.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/UQoI4x.jpg)

One of my favourite bands as a student. Rubbing shoulders with Cardiacs and The Residents in my record collection.
Amazingly, I had a girlfriend too.

Stump were an abrasive but innovative English/ Irish band. Invariably compared to Captain Beefhearts Magic Band, but there is a big dollop of Oirishness in there too. A scorching live appearance on TV show 'The Tube' and 'Buffalo' became a big student hit, and is sung at football matches to this day and 'Charlton Heston' became an unlikely hit in Ibiza, but the Top 40 eluded them and they were soon dropped. Bass player Kevin Hopper continues to make challenging but interesting music. Lead singer Mick Lynch sadly passed away on 17th December, 2015.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4row0MddS0
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 24, 2021, 11:12:44 AM
Swans - Time Is Money (Bastard)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a9/Time_Is_Money_%28Bastard%29_cover.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_uBH9vWV4M

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After Cop we did this EP called Raping A Slave and then we did the series of 12 inches called Greed, Holy Money, Time Is Money, Bastard. I started incorporating other elements like early sampling, like the kick drum and the snare on Holy Money were a nail gun I got from work. Just one an octave down and one an octave up. It slowly transmuted. Jarboe got involved and I started utilizing her talents as a singer.

While this is the first, I doubt this will be the last post on Swans from 1986 as they put a lot out this year and it was all gold. This is a fantastically aggressive industrial dance track opening with the sounds of a nail gun blended in with live drumming and based around Michael Gira yelling about how the listener should be violated in a voice that a friend of mine once pointed out sounds like a particularly aggro Homer Simpson. Now I can never hear it the same way. Time Is Money (Bastard) was a standalone single and the first Swans release on which Jarboe appears.

A very thoughtful Quietus piece drew comparisons between this and Clipse, particularly evident in tracks like Grindin':

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"I read something very smart about Swans that was posted on the music discussion board ILM about twelve years ago. A poster made a comparison which was so unusual it threw some fresh light on the subject at hand (often the best kind of comparisons to make). After saying Michael Gira's rock group were philosophically similar to the hip hop duo Clipse, the person known as EC said: "Both Clipse and Swans find social reality at the intersection of sex, money, and power. They view everything else as pretty fluff, designed to obscure the harsh truth. The difference is, Gira and co. sound traumatised by this discovery, whereas Malice and Pusha T sound like they're doing a gleeful dance."

Gira tells me he hasn't heard of Clipse, but he agrees with the sentiment… up to a certain point: "When did the poster say this? 11 years ago? Well, I'm not that person anymore. I mean, I may have been once. Those were the things I concentrated on in the early days, but certainly the subject matter and the thrust and gist of the music has moved on beyond that considerably since then. I made albums called Children Of God and Soundtracks For The Blind it's true, but I've moved on from that. But fair enough, you know. I guess when you do things that are extreme in your youth that's what you're remembered for always."

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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 24, 2021, 12:00:10 PM
Coil - Ostia
(https://img.discogs.com/PLqfn_RGOiWq3Ntt3yaAoyqnCzk=/fit-in/600x589/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-99925-1491880142-6677.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J48cbIJAmrY

How to pick just one song from this masterpiece?

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"In 'Ostia'," he (Sleazy) informs, "there's a recording of some grasshoppers that we made at Chichen Itza in Mexico. Chichen Itza is a pyramid that was used for the sacrifice of young men. Blood flowed down the steps of the pyramid and made it impossible to climb up." The murmuring insects add atmosphere to the song, whose jumping-off point is the life and death of Pasolini, the Italian film director who was murdered by a "rent-boy" in Ostia, Italy.

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"Balance - 'Ostia' is a tribute to a friend of ours who passed away, Leon. Dover came into the picture because another friend of ours jumped over the cliffs. And this brings in the subject of beaches. Pasolini was murdered on the beach of Ostia. Ostia means sacrifice, in English it means a bone; "Throw his bones over...." The mixing of places. Pasolini comprehended his own death, I think he wanted to die the way he did."

Balance's recurring lyric, "Out of the strong came forth sweetness" is not just a Biblical reference but a reference to Lyle's golden syrup, tying in perfectly with his opening utterances about honey.

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/57a9d8dcd482e9bbf179f445/1482227753621-000CNUSQQJAJN7XI7I9E/2392353798_6901c5e3a7.jpg?content-type=image%2Fjpeg)

To create the intricate acoustic guitar sounding line, Sleazy reportedly (according to England's Hidden Reverse) filled the Fairlight screen with a wash of notes then systematically removed them to create the sound we know and love. This to me summarises quite succinctly the appeal of Coil's work: rather than starting from a blank canvass they were as content to mould base matter be it marble or shit.
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Post by: Better Midlands on February 24, 2021, 12:05:18 PM
Company B - Fascinated (https://youtu.be/-b-6ksMdkrU)

(https://img.discogs.com/worJQXBwDc0rCP6uAU7Qxn0eKS4=/fit-in/549x549/filters:strip_icc():format(webp):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-2179607-1353176284-4936.jpeg.jpg)

Underground club track that broke out of the mid 80's US Latin Freestyle scene (released 1986), a big influence on SAW (check the Miami Mix of Bananarama - I Heard A Rumour (https://youtu.be/mh0yjuvJpPU)) and bridges the gap between Italo disco and the eurodance sound that came in the early 90's

Reached #89 in the UK in 1987

(https://popvoid.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/company-b.jpeg)
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 24, 2021, 12:22:56 PM
That is a fantastic pop record thanks for reminding me of it!
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 24, 2021, 01:35:17 PM
Coil - Ostia


How to pick just one song from this masterpiece?


It is magnificent. A complete original.
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Post by: Jockice on February 24, 2021, 01:39:20 PM
Didn't know they'd been going that long. Another blot on my copybook, I thought Happiness (1990) was a wonderful album.

Conversely, despite being an archetypal NME-buying, Peel-listening indie kid in the mid to late 80s I have absolutely no recollection of them until they got in the charts. It's not even a slipped my mind later on thing either. When The Sun Rising was in the charts I remember a mate of mine saying he preferred them when they sounded 'like The Cure.' I'd somehow totally avoided hearing then despite probably over 50% of the stuff I bought in those days sounding like The Cure
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Post by: SpiderChrist on February 24, 2021, 01:47:48 PM
The Len Bright Combo - Someone Must Have Nailed Us Together

Eric Goulden AKA Wreckless Eric with Russ Wilkins and Bruce Band from The Milkshakes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpKEhl9ohw0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpKEhl9ohw0)

(https://e.snmc.io/i/600/s/6beef51fa2478db02af2278910e6dbd7/6260410/the-len-bright-combo-someone-mustve-nailed-us-together-mona-Cover-Art.jpg)

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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 24, 2021, 02:17:16 PM
Angelo Badalamenti with Julee Cruise - Mysteries of Love
(https://img.discogs.com/x6PL9MwvD4lLSU-W2aaHk-QP-s8=/fit-in/600x596/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-433977-1331194211.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMDvOhmLmg4

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Lynch hit a roadblock while trying to secure the rights to the Tim Buckley tune “Song to the Siren,” as performed by 4AD dream-pop supergroup This Mortal Coil. Dino De Laurentiis, whose studio produced the film, refused to pay what Badalamenti figures was a $50,000 sync fee to use the song, so Caruso asked the composer to write something similar. He agreed; all he needed was some words.

“David reluctantly agreed to write a lyric, and he thought writing a new song was absolutely preposterous because ‘Song to the Siren’ was his favourite song of all time,” Badalamenti says. “But Isabella came to the recording studio, where we were recording ‘Blue Velvet,’ and she handed me a little piece of yellow paper and, in David’s handwriting, it said, ‘Sometimes a wind blows and you and I float in love and kiss forever in a darkness and the mysteries of love come clear….’ I’m reading this and saying, ‘Hey man, where are the rhymes? And more important, where are the hooks that a song needs?'” To make things more quizzical, the only musical directions Lynch gave Badalamenti were to “compose something with no beginning and no end” and to make it “just ethereal beauty.”

(https://www.twentyfourbit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Angelo+Badalamenti+and+David+Lynch+Angelo+Badalamenti+and+David+L.png)

Dumbfounded, the composer sat at his keyboard, staring at Lynch’s scratch paper, and held a “long, soft, sustained, wide-voiced B major chord” for maybe a minute or more. “I was just listening to this chord, and it set a mood for me,” he recalls. “The melody just floated out and I knew that I married David’s description to this poetic lyric. I never changed a single word.”

(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/61/e0/08/61e0089d0376a23ce13f85815c3d91a8--julee-cruise-david-lynch.jpg)

“The pentameter of ‘Mysteries of Love’ is very French horn-like, and I was a French horn major in grad school,” Cruise says. “The vocal has got to be pure. There are no scoops. It was very hard to put vibrato in there and be confident enough to do it that soft. I’m the funny one, the big belter; I wasn’t this. But I thought of it as singing like the soloist in a boys’ choir.”

Lynch being unable to get the budget to Song To The Siren wound up leading to the Lynch / Badalamenti / Cruise collaboration which'd later blossom on the Twin Peaks soundtrack and become hugely influential to sad panda eyed goths like me who like black coffee and red (and Blue) velvet too much. An interview with Post-Punk by Robin Guthrie of the Cocteau Twins, guitarist on Song To The Siren shows another missed opportunity for everyone involved here:

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RG: Yes, there’s actually more to it than that – he actually asked me and Liz to be in the film. We were going to be standing on stage in the background performing it, so that makes the story even better. But it all got blown up because Ivo at 4AD, I guess he was in control of the This Mortal Coil project and he just asked for way too much money. And I’m, you know, I regret that because that would have been really cool to be in a David Lynch film, wouldn’t it! You know, that would have been quite a thing to tell your grandchildren.

I guess Liz and Robin's loss is our gain.
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on February 24, 2021, 02:23:28 PM
Ivo Watts-Russell has said it was Tim Buckley's estate, rather than himself, that made the financial demands, which makes more sense than Guthrie's version of events.
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Post by: Gregory Torso on February 24, 2021, 02:45:03 PM
Culturcide - They Aren't The World (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeGVObZgVbs)

(https://i.imgur.com/MPRMX4h.jpg)

Culturcide were another weird art-punk band tooling around in the early 80s when they hit upon the idea of simply singing over the top of some the day's middle of the road chart slop, much like v/vm would do years later. The resulting album, Tacky Souvenirs Of Pre-Revolutionary America, is much more than that, though. The 'karaoke theft' results - warping, effected vocals and blats of guitar abuse layered over the top of hits by Bowie, The Beach Boys, Springsteen, Grand Funk Railroad* and Michael Jackson - coupled with cutting lyrics on consumerism and pop crap culture - is like, a totally awesome statement, dude.

I feel this pairs well with sirhenry's post, being another attack on pop stars jumping on the whole 'save the world' career-furthering bandwagon.

(* another connection to them coming up shortly)
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Post by: Gregory Torso on February 24, 2021, 03:00:01 PM
Butthole Surfers - Perry (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9cyVY5fNro)

(https://i.imgur.com/ey2Ttho.jpg)

...and here's the other connection to Grand Funk Railroad, as at the time of this record (Rembrandt Pussyhorse), The Buttholes had a pitbull called 'Mark Farner of Grand Funk Railroad' who appears growling on one of the tracks on this album. Totally insane cover of American Woman, too.

My choice though is Perry - a seasick hurtlitzer 'reworking' of the Perry Mason theme tune with highly quotable lyrics. Brilliant album and highly influential in my teenage tearaway years.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 24, 2021, 03:14:23 PM
Adonis - No Way Back
(https://img.discogs.com/JroNTL4Tkn2W2MwKRrCrXQJBoeM=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-1166718-1197625776.jpeg.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMfXFLZUJ6E

A 303 bass synth; an 808 drum machine and a menacing vocal give us one of the first acid house records. It's an argument between some whether this or I've Lost Control by Sleezy D came first and I love both but this is the one of the two that I prefer. The term was properly codified a year later when Phuture released Acid Tracks.
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Post by: Phil_A on February 24, 2021, 03:22:20 PM
Fred Lane And His Hittite Hot Shots - French Toast Man (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keBzy5-iRyo)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51NrNqL4B3L.jpg)

The second album from the good Reverend Lane is a frequently hilarious dadaist lounge jazz nightmare, exemplified byt this charming cut that could be the premise of particularly disturbing episode of Ren & Stimpy.

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Post by: Gregory Torso on February 24, 2021, 03:46:03 PM
Hisako Min & Klina-Men - 肉体の天使 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eGw325ydGg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Roc9DjF.jpg)


Excitable Japanese pop from a band/singer that I know nothing about, apart from they released another single and an album. Go me. Worth reading that, wasn't it? Had this for years on the DJ Roman Porsche Vol 2 bootleg compilation which also features Zelda, Salon Music, Jun Togawa, The Boredoms etc. Life-affirming stuff.

(https://i.imgur.com/UEAm0HR.jpg)
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 24, 2021, 04:10:31 PM
Primal Scream - Velocity Girl

(https://www.clashmusic.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_feature/public/field/image/Edie.jpg?itok=SOAgng_o)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT30rlyJxmc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT30rlyJxmc)

An obvious choice, but seeing as it's 1986 we may as well listen to the first track on the NME C86 cassette.

It's become a bit of a cliche to opine that Velocity Girl, the B-side of Primal Scream's second single, is one of the best things they've ever done, but it just is. Jim Beattie, who wrote the song, left the band before they became massive. He later went on to co-create some lovely minimalist retro-pop with Adventures in Stereo.

And for what it's worth, he's a very nice man.
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Post by: Jockice on February 24, 2021, 04:23:50 PM
Primal Scream - Velocity Girl

(https://www.clashmusic.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_feature/public/field/image/Edie.jpg?itok=SOAgng_o)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT30rlyJxmc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT30rlyJxmc)

An obvious choice, but seeing as it's 1986 we may as well listen to the first track on the NME C86 cassette.

It's become a bit of a cliche to opine that Velocity Girl, the B-side of Primal Scream's second single, is one of the best things they've ever done, but it just is. Jim Beattie, who wrote the song, left the band before they became massive. He later went on to co-create some lovely minimalist retro-pop with Adventures in Stereo.

And for what it's worth, he's a very nice man.

Earlier I was planning to post It Happens, the superior b-side of the first Primal Scream single, before realising that it came out in 1985.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 24, 2021, 04:28:49 PM
Earlier I was planning to post It Happens, the superior b-side of the first Primal Scream single, before realising that it came out in 1985.


Do it, what’s a year between friends?
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Post by: jobotic on February 24, 2021, 04:38:58 PM
Butthole Surfers - Perry (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9cyVY5fNro)

(https://i.imgur.com/ey2Ttho.jpg)

...and here's the other connection to Grand Funk Railroad, as at the time of this record (Rembrandt Pussyhorse), The Buttholes had a pitbull called 'Mark Farner of Grand Funk Railroad' who appears growling on one of the tracks on this album. Totally insane cover of American Woman, too.

My choice though is Perry - a seasick hurtlitzer 'reworking' of the Perry Mason theme tune with highly quotable lyrics. Brilliant album and highly influential in my teenage tearaway years.

Was going through my head the other day, unfortunate lyrics and all. Didn't realise it was based on the Perry Mason theme!

Whirling Hall of Knives would have been my pick.
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Post by: chveik on February 24, 2021, 05:07:36 PM
not gonna lie I can't stand this period but you can always find good stuff if you look hard enough

(https://img.discogs.com/1BB9B8bI_UHWXu4MSsERm3FHdoM=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-4088529-1576480840-5848.jpeg.jpg)

Ruins - Body & Soul (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaJ8mchxpT4)

from their first ep, much punkier than the later stuff
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 24, 2021, 05:39:49 PM
The Motorcade Sped On - Steinski & Mass Media. Released on Tommy Boy in 1986.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/gvohkJ.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/YvBPMF.jpg)

In the unlikely event, you've never heard this before. It's an early cut and paste turntablist track that uses samples from the Kennedy assassination reports. I discovered it on a 7" EP that came free with the NME. Those old inky vinyl giveaways were often very helpful in exposing me to new music. Ok, it's dated as hell but at the time it was a rule changer.

American music and advertising producer, born 19 August 1951. Better known as Steinski, and perhaps most famous for his work with Double Dee & Steinski or Steinski & Mass Media. As godfather of some of the zanier aspects of turntablism, Steinski created a succession of extra-legal works of studio art (the infamous "Lessons") that quickly became DJ landmarks and some of the most valued bootlegs in rap history. Stein is still active as a radio DJ and compilation curator for innovative music from the past.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjyFwbSNh4o&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 24, 2021, 06:00:23 PM

Do it, what’s a year between friends?

Exactly! It Happens is the only other early jangle-pop Primal Scream song worth listening to.  It's lovely.

Post the heck out of it, Jockice.
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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 24, 2021, 06:10:53 PM
I've never heard it Jockice so you have a responsibility to post it as I'm not going to listen to it until you do.
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Post by: Jockice on February 24, 2021, 06:27:48 PM
There we go. I'm a real rule-breaker. Gillespie thought the A-side, All Fall Down, was a better song. And not for the last time in his career, he was very wrong indeed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_Mmx5C_Kg0
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Post by: Jockice on February 24, 2021, 06:31:58 PM
Exactly! It Happens is the only other early jangle-pop Primal Scream song worth listening to.  It's lovely.

Post the heck out of it, Jockice.

But what about this one? Another b-side. From 87. I'm playing hard and fast with the rules now. I live on the edge, me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HG4FozGLwo





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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 24, 2021, 06:46:00 PM
Well, the thread has descended into utter anarchy and chaos now.

Yes, that's a nice wee song.

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Post by: Oz Oz Alice on February 24, 2021, 06:47:39 PM
Those are both lovely and I've been reminded of the insane approach to time of Rose McDowall: when I was briefly playing with her she told me "I named my daughter Velocity after that song, and then when they found out they named Velocity Girl after her". If it hurts your head to read imagine how it felt for me to hear it.
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Post by: Jockice on February 24, 2021, 06:57:57 PM
Back to 86. And another band who made their name on Creation. Although of course I was into them before then.

Sunny Sundae Smile - My Bloody Valentine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMBjKDSznuM
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Post by: Gregory Torso on February 24, 2021, 07:27:07 PM
meanwhile, in Brazil...

Mercenárias - Panico (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ-wuOovybo)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZgN4QBO.jpg)

Founded in São Paulo in 1982, Mercenarias were an all female punk band whose lyrics - gasp! - criticised the government, society and catholic church!
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 24, 2021, 07:39:46 PM
The Chameleons - Tears

https://youtu.be/v1MSWPii4JM (https://youtu.be/v1MSWPii4JM)

(https://d1e9ycqe323hkh.cloudfront.net/items/131108237637.jpg)

Released as their sixth single and, later, on their third and final album Strange Times.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 24, 2021, 08:18:51 PM
Ellen Greene & Rick Moranis - Suddenly Seymour

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5b/f5/d9/5bf5d97dada4a81d83d8832d435431d9.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DD7VIKZnGA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DD7VIKZnGA)

The musical for people who don't like musicals? Maybe. But I don't trust people who don't like musicals.

This is the very definition of a show-stopper. It's stunning.

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Little Shop of Horrors is a horror comedy rock musical with music by Alan Menken and lyrics and a book by Howard Ashman. The story follows a hapless florist shop worker who raises a plant that feeds on human blood and flesh. The musical is loosely based on Roger Corman's low-budget 1960 black comedy film The Little Shop of Horrors.

The 1986 film version was directed by Frank Oz, and features performances from Rick Moranis, Ellen Greene, Steve Martin, Bill Murray and John Candy. The voice of the killer plant, Audrey II, was provided by Levi Stubbs from the Four Tops.



 
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Post by: jobotic on February 24, 2021, 09:30:57 PM
Diamanda Galas - L'Heautontimoroumenos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t5L3jwJRD8

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4b/Diamanda_Galas_Saint_of_the_Pit.jpg)

I mean she's amazing, but I struggle to listen to much of her stuff. When I did first go off for an explore years ago this was the one that stuck with me. The only possible reaction when you get to the end is "fucking hell".
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Post by: Gregory Torso on February 24, 2021, 10:07:06 PM
Killdozer - Cranberries (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug5V5eZ2Ndo)

(https://i.imgur.com/aQSu9o0.jpg)

more ugly american overkill on Touch And Go from the mini album Burl. It was really funny after hearing these evil gruff vocals on record when I finally saw them live the singer looked like such a good little boy, i wanted to ruffle his hair and give him a fruit pastille.
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Post by: daf on February 25, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
The Nightingales, Ted Chippington and We've Got A Fuzzbox And We're Gonna Use It! - Rockin' With Rita (Head To Toe) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-ZLGY5MrtE)

(https://i.imgur.com/ADx3ibi.jpg) 

Released in July 1986 - reached #56 in the UK chart

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Francis Smyth was born in Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire. He started performing in 1981 under the name "Eddie Chippington" before changing to Ted "due to maturity and baldness". Noted for his diffident on-stage persona, Chippington eschews [bless you!] observational comedy in favour of anti-humour and jokes which are mostly variations on the same theme, delivered in a West Midlands monotone. He also frequently performs his own versions of well-known songs in a similarly deadpan style. His act has left audiences bemused or hostile, with heckling a frequent occurrence during his performances.

Ted Chippington : "When I first started it was basically just to - oh god I hate saying the word ‘basically’, sounds like that young comedian bloke who I can’t remember his name – no it was really just to rile people up. I’d behave like a sort of old bloke who was boring and tell anecdotes that he thought was highly interesting and of course they weren’t. It carried on from there really. It just begun as a bit of a laugh really and I ended up getting fairly popular, which wasn’t the plan at all."

He first came to national prominence when a gig he had performed in Birmingham in 1984 supporting The Fall was released by local record label Vindaloo on a 7" EP entitled 'Non Stop Party Hits of the '50s, '60s and '70s'. The record was played by John Peel on his BBC Radio 1 programme.

(https://i.imgur.com/7eZ1Swl.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/HstQpLN.jpg) 

In 1986 he released an album, 'Man in a Suitcase' - a collection of live recordings plus some more songs, including versions of "I Feel Like Buddy Holly" and "She Loves You".

Ted Chippington : "I had an LP called Man In A Suitcase on Vindaloo and John Peel was playing snippets. I did a version of ‘She Loves You’ on it which he played. Then Steve Wright In The Afternoon picked up on it and he played it every day for weeks. And this bloke who you must have heard of, Bill Drummond, he worked for Warner Brothers at the time, he was the sort of weird character of the label, and they were looking for new acts. I think Bill Drummond heard Steve Wright play it, so they invited me and Robert down to discuss a doing a single which of course we just thought was hilarious."

"She Loves You" received wider exposure after Steve Wright repeatedly played it on his Radio 1 show, which in turn led to the track being released as a single by Warner Brothers. It narrowly failed to make the Top 75 but Chippington claims that the deal with Warners' earned him "£1,000 and a nice curry".

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Chippington once again came close to mainstream UK singles chart success with a recording of "Rockin' with Rita (Head to Toe)" which he performed with his fellow Vindaloo artists The Nightingales and We've Got a Fuzzbox and We're Gonna Use It.

(https://i.imgur.com/fW6ms7J.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/HDd1tAf.jpg) 

Ted Chippington : "When I first started doing gigs, that was around the Birmingham area with a group called Dangerous Girls. They had a couple of singles out and they never really made it but they did extensive tours of Britain which I used to do. Then one gig in Birmingham, Robert just come up to me and said, “Well I like what you do, do you fancy doing some stuff with us?” And of course I did know who The Nightingales were. They’d only been going a year or something at the time. I’ve vague memories of seeing The Prefects once but it was on the verge of when they split up so it was all a bit shambolic, and I saw a few early Nightingales gigs which again were pretty shambolic, but I’ve always been a fan, I suppose."

(https://i.imgur.com/ZDugZNl.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/NygzorR.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/94BI9gk.jpg) 

Stewart Lee has often cited Chippington as the reason he began stand-up comedy, describing Chippington's act as "a mixture of surrealism and insolent provocation and uncompromising boredom" and citing him as "the first post-alternative comedian". Another admirer, Richard Herring, talks of Chippington's "contempt for the very idea of jokes". For his part Chippington - who describes his own act as being influenced by Lenny Bruce and Owd Grandad Piggott - says he is an "anti-comedian" and that he only started doing his act "to annoy people". He has even claimed that his main reason for retiring from the stage in the 1990s was that he was becoming too popular.

(https://i.imgur.com/p363jT6.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/Hz4S0CC.jpg) 

Despite rumours, he didn't end up driving trucks in America . . .

Ted Chippington : "I just put it out one day. I think it was Peel actually said it first so everyone thought it must be true so I thought I’ll pretend it is as well. I did actually go and live in America for a bit so that was me excuse when I wasn’t doing any gigs or anything. I’d gone to America because I did a tour there and it was really my kind of place, strangely enough."
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 25, 2021, 07:05:18 AM
Please Don't Go - Madness   Released on Zarjazz in 1985.
Probably, last entry for the Nutty Boys in this epic thread with a B side that channels The Monkees, Their spiritual ancestors?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROPddira6ZE

I've never heard that before! A splendid Monkees pastiche.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 25, 2021, 12:47:08 PM
Full Nelson - Miles Davies Released on Warner Bros in 1986.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/Jw6qF3.jpg)

I'm not ashamed to say that Tutu was the album that introduced me to his music. I think it was for a lot of students back then. His 'Scary Monsters', if you will?

Originally planned as a collaboration with pop singer/songwriter Prince, Davis ultimately worked with bassist/multi-instrumentalist Marcus Miller. Miller wrote and arranged all the songs, except "Tomaas" (co-written by Davis), "Backyard Ritual" (by keyboardist George Duke), and "Perfect Way" (by pop group Scritti Politti). The music is strongly inspired by mid-1980s R&B and funk, with heavy use of synthesizers, sequencers and drum machines.

Miles Davies was a trumpeter, bandleader, composer, and one of the most important figures in jazz music history, and music history in general. Davis adopted a variety of musical directions in a five-decade career that kept him at the forefront of many major stylistic developments in jazz. Winner of eight Grammy awards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsqh1E3eQiU&feature=emb_logo
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 25, 2021, 04:21:12 PM
McCarthy - Frans Hals

https://youtu.be/WxWb9FAN078 (https://youtu.be/WxWb9FAN078)

(https://img.discogs.com/CguutObYxvFZFv-KZudCuX2fk7E=/fit-in/340x321/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1139361-1195222354.jpeg.jpg)

Formed in Barking, Greater London, in 1984 by schoolmates Malcolm Eden (voice and guitar) and Tim Gane (lead guitar) with John Williamson (bass guitar) and Gary Baker (drums). This is their third single and it reached number 35 in the Festive Fifty. They went on to release three albums before splitting in 1990, Gane proceeding to form Stereolab later in the year.
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Post by: jobotic on February 25, 2021, 04:22:42 PM

Formed in Barking, Greater London, in 1984 by schoolmates Malcolm Eden (voice and guitar) and Tim Gane (lead guitar) with John Williamson (bass guitar) and Gary Baker (drums). This is their third single and it reached number 35 in the Festive Fifty. They went on to release three albums before splitting in 1990, Eden proceeding to form Stereolab later in the year.

Gane, surely?
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Post by: jamiefairlie on February 25, 2021, 04:38:04 PM
Gane, surely?

Yes, brain storm there, thanks
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 25, 2021, 07:00:27 PM
Shop Assistants - Train from Kansas City

(https://lastfm.freetls.fastly.net/i/u/ar0/50f4773edbb34acbb7946503dce1e47f.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKuvKXbNiTo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKuvKXbNiTo)

Taken from their one and only album, this is a cover of a Shangri-Las tune written by top '60s popsmiths Jeff Barry and Ellie Greenwich.

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Shop Assistants were a Scottish indie pop band from Edinburgh. After achieving success with independent releases they signed to Chrysalis Records sublabel Blue Guitar, releasing their only album in 1986. They split up in 1987, but reformed for two further singles in 1990.
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Post by: daf on February 25, 2021, 09:09:09 PM
The Costello Show featuring The Attractions - Suit Of Lights (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8Ke3f6yfI8)

(https://i.imgur.com/8UARLD9.jpg)

Featured on the album 'King of America' - released in February 1986

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During late 1984 and early 1985, Costello undertook a series of solo tours, sharing the bill with musician T-Bone Burnett. Costello and Burnett recorded a single together in early 1985, "The People's Limousine" (credited to 'The Coward Brothers'), and ventured to imagine appropriate backing musicians for Costello's new songs. They booked time at Ocean Way and Sunset Sound studios in Los Angeles, and assembled members of the TCB Band who had backed Elvis Presley in the 1970s. Other sessions included the jazz bassist Ray Brown and New Orleans drummer Earl Palmer, and a group of musicians dubbed 'The Confederates', featuring T-Bone Wolk, Mickey Curry, and producer Mitchell Froom.

(https://i.imgur.com/8f83Eoj.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/yiPVdFF.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/Hu84CGH.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/eUrrz0O.jpg) 

Elvis Costello : "I had originally intended to feature The Attractions on half of this album so that the contrast of accompaniments would be heard to best effect. The news of this plan was not exactly received with wild celebrations, and I suppose I became pretty high-handed about my recording plans. On all sides the old cliché about "familiarity" probably had some substance. Anyway, by the time The Attractions arrived in Hollywood there was more than half an album's worth of material in the can. This meant that our sessions had a doomed air of suspicion and resentment. After spending so much time together on the road T-Bone and I had a rapport based on rumour that unwittingly drove a wedge between the band and myself. In these circumstances I suppose it is hardly surprising that The Attractions delivered some of their worst performances.

(https://i.imgur.com/HnesqUH.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/cf5h1f9.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/f0LHQFv.jpg)

Costello's usual backing musicians The Attractions appear on only one track, "Suit of Lights" . . .

Elvis Costello : "I can't recall the exact sequence of events. I know we cut rather lacklustre versions of "Blue Chair" and "Next Time Round," both of which would have to wait until the Blood & Chocolate sessions to be more fully realised. Then we cut to a throwaway number that we could have played in our sleep and about which the title was probably the best thing: "Baby's Got A Brand New Hairdo." This steadied everyone's nerves, but we weren't exactly having fun. It was at this moment that we cut "Suit Of Lights", a dense lyric written from the jaundices performer's perspective about mob instinct and how one man's amusement is another man's job of work. The song was written after watching my father, Ross, sing of experience and tenderness to an uncomprehending rabble of karaoke-trained dullards. Our pent-up frustrations went into making this one of the most passionate Attractions recordings."

(https://i.imgur.com/xBq5lbB.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/puKYNvN.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/xRX4AEX.jpg)

In the album credits, Costello uses three different noms de plume for himself: his given name of Declan MacManus; his stage name of Elvis Costello; and the nickname given him by producer Nick Lowe earlier in his career, the Little Hands of Concrete, this being a reference to his habitual breaking of guitar strings during recording sessions.

Elvis Costello : "Suit Of Lights. There are small demands of respect. They are denied in this song, which I wrote for my father, Ross. He has greater professional resolve in the face of the tiny indignities that every working person shares, but is somehow overlooked and even resented when expressed by a performer. It is assumed that the risk of humiliation is the price paid for the privilege. I don't believe that is right and I am not talking about someone like myself, who has already been spoilt by your attention, coming to expect it to the extent that I sat down to write all of this but it's all "Work." The same pig-faced lout or drunken bore who is very large in the dark of the crowd, would be horrified if you were to simply trip him up on his way to work. Here endeth the lesson. By the way, we forgive nothing."

(https://i.imgur.com/W4DsP7J.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/JhX4S44.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/32xjYdf.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/tqORweZ.jpg) 
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Post by: daf on February 26, 2021, 12:00:00 AM
Phil Cool – Bridge Over Troubled Water (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSj60xqC48s)

(https://i.imgur.com/HqDZNlA.jpg)

Released in November 1986 - did not chart

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Philip Martin was born in Chorley, Lancashire, and discovered that he had a skill for pulling faces when he was a 12-year-old at school. Once he left school he worked briefly in a warehouse and as an electrician before turning professional as a comedian and impressionist.

Phil Cool : "I first did impressions in my school days of my teachers and headmaster, but I graduated to film stars and celebrities by first doing all the cowboys of the day. John Wayne, James Stewart, Burt Lancaster and Kirk Douglas. The impression that really ‘lit the fuse’ though was the American, comic actor Phil Silvers."

(https://i.imgur.com/WOjHEeY.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/DOk0NIP.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/5VcKLEh.jpg) 

Cool's debut television appearance was in the short-lived comedy show Rock With Laughter, it was around this time that he made a career-defining performance at Jasper Carrott's Folk Club "The Boggery". Carrott was impressed with Cool's act and decided to take an active hand in furthering his career. In 1983 he appeared as a regular on the O.T.T. spin-off Saturday Stayback and, in 1984, he became one of the voice artists for the satirical show Spitting Image, impersonating Boy George, Holly Johnson and Mick Jagger for the first two series.

It was during his time on Spitting Image that a producer for the BBC spotted him, and got him work on Pebble Mill at One. After the success of these appearances, he was given his own series called Cool It on the BBC. The second series aired in 1986 and was also produced by Jasper Carrott. Cool recorded an album on Virgin Records called 'Not Just a Pretty Face', and a book titled 'Cool's Out'.

(https://i.imgur.com/DOiJxps.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/cYaglgM.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/6BRlHKQ.jpg) 

Phil Cool : "Once, soon after doing a rather cruel Paul Daniels impersonation on TV I saw him in the reception of the BBC in London, fortunately he didn’t see me, so I gave him the widest berth I possibly could. I didn’t want a confrontation, because I feared he might get up on his tip toes and bite my knee. My producer did meet him though at the BBC in Birmingham and said: “Paul, I hope you didn’t mind Phil Cool’s impersonation of you” and he replied “Who’s Phil Cool?” Good reply Paul."

In 1987, he performed at The Secret Policeman's Third Ball. The third and final series was broadcast in 1988. In 1991 he moved to ITV and made a series called Cool Head for Central Television. A year later he made another series for Central that, as they had exhausted their supply of Cool-based puns, was simply called 'Phil Cool', recorded at the Belgrade Theatre in Coventry. This turned out to be Cool's last series for television.

(https://i.imgur.com/Iu4hhld.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/n3ky9iu.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/y3O6oFh.jpg) 

In 1992 Cool teamed up with Jasper Carrott and toured the country with their "Carrott & Cool" show. He had a brief comeback in 1997 when he released his fifth official video, Classic Cool, but in August 2000 his career had to be put on hold when he suffered a heart attack, which left him in hospital for eight months. After making a full recovery he returned to the stage with a new show in 2002, and in 2003 he revived his touring partnership with Carrott. In addition to his solo gigs, Cool toured in 2008 with Ken Nicol. Nicol and Cool toured with folk rock group Fairport Convention as a support act for Fairport's 2009 winter tour. In 2013 Cool began a farewell nationwide tour, declaring it would be his last because he had "just had enough of all the travelling".
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Post by: gilbertharding on February 26, 2021, 10:02:56 AM
Hi everyone.

My choice for 1986 is the song Tearing Me Apart by the group Agent Orange: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LvnuNamlMI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LvnuNamlMI)

I knew next to nothing about Agent Orange at the time, and I didn't hear about them from John Peel, or Annie Nightingale, or Janice Long or the NME - I discovered them via a TDK D90 I borrowed off a school friend who mostly liked skateboarding and BMX. I don't think the tape even had a track list or an album title. So all I knew was this instant banger, and another good one called Voices in the Night (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpNqUAHXSeQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpNqUAHXSeQ))

So - all I had to do was forget about it until about 20 years later when the gradual rise of the internet allowed me to discover that Agent Orange was an American punk rock band formed in Placentia, California in 1979, and one of the first to mix punk rock with surf music.[citation needed]

The album I heard was This is the Voice - about which some people said "The long-delayed second Agent Orange album isn't quite Living in Darkness part two, though it's little different from that album in many ways -- same nuclear-strength attack that's equal parts surf and punk intensity, catchy and threatening all at once"

If you like this, their song Bloodstains (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR8UcVruNgE) off their 1981 debut album is recommended.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 26, 2021, 01:27:26 PM
The Outlaw and The Indian - Dion Miál & Gary Coleman.   Released on Peace Pipe in 1986.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/OZ6nIE.jpg)

"Now, the world don't move to the beat of just one drum.... machine"

Scant information about this online but The Outlaw and The Indian appears to be Diff'rent Strokes child actor, Gary Coleman's sole foray into the pop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJUHYN2L8PA

TV show performance. The clip quality is diabolical but it takes the cringing to stellar levels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxinJl8lj2I
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Post by: Jockice on February 26, 2021, 02:38:34 PM
This Boy Can Wait - The Wedding Present

Because I still think it's the best thing they've ever done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Keanl5hAmjw

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Post by: Better Midlands on February 26, 2021, 02:50:59 PM
Anthony & The Camp - What I Like (https://youtu.be/Q6Ob0rjjHHY)

(https://img.discogs.com/uiKtH3mbKpew2KoBiJh2OqlhVm8=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-395283-1342288853-3543.jpeg.jpg)

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Anthony and the Camp is a dance music group led by producer Anthony Malloy. The group also consists of Crawford Peterson, Henley Goddard and Linden Aaron. Malloy, who already had a number-one hit on the Hot Dance Music/Club Play chart with his former group Temper, hit the top spot again with the Camp in 1986 with the song "What I Like"
"What I Like" spent three weeks at the top of dance charts and was ranked as the most successful dance single of 1986. It also briefly appeared on the U.S. R&B Singles chart, peaking at number eighty.
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Post by: Better Midlands on February 26, 2021, 03:04:04 PM
Willie Colón – Set Fire To Me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir1ySsrRSHk&t=189)


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William Anthony Colón Román was born in the South Bronx in 1950 to US-born parents of Puerto Rican descent. Though his roots were refreshed by frequent stays at the family farm back on the island, Willie was and is unequivocally, much like Salsa, quintessentially Newyorican. Colón makes the relation between diaspora and Caribbean homeland the central theme of his work, particularly in his 1971 Christmas album, Asalto Navideño.

He began playing the trumpet at age fourteen, clad in second-hand “old man” suits, complete with a painted mustache and a cigar.  He played trumpet and then trombone at seedy local clubs, part of a ragtag movement known as Latin Boogaloo.  Much like his friends, he’d grown up with the sounds of Cuban and Puerto Rican classics, the Mambo and the Cha Cha Chá, and like them was also deeply steeped in Rock and Roll: Smokey and the Miracles, the Temptations, Elvis Presley. They brought these sounds together in Boogaloo.

Their innovation was met with skepticism by the established musicians of the 40s and the 50s. “Tito Puente, and others used to make fun of the young groups,” said Colón. “They said... we knew nothing.  That we shouldn’t bring different styles together... But for those of us who had grown up in the Barrio listening to all these influences, there was no contradiction.”

In 1967, Colón, then only 16 years old, was signed by a new label, Fania Records, created by Dominican bandleader Johnny Pacheco and an Italian entrepreneur, Jerry Masucci.  His band featured a raw aggressive sound that appealed to young, urban Salsa fans.

Colón was soon put to work with a newly arrived Puerto Rican, Héctor Lavoe.  From their first album El Malo, a surprising success promoted with a gangtster’s edge, Colón and Lavoe went on to create some of the most memorable music of Salsa. “I had the Bronx street stuff going and he had that country Puerto Rican folkloric thing, you know, and it was a great combination,” says Colón.

Colón stopped touring in 1973 to dedicate himself to producing records, but his collaborations continued to deepen the popularity and reach of Salsa. In 1978, he joined with Panamanian singer-songwriter Rubén Blades in a seminal album, Siembra, which for two decades remained the number-one selling album in the history of Salsa.   With its rousing social commentary and unconventional sound, Siembra set the Salsa world on fire.

In September 2004, Colón received the Lifetime Achievement Grammy Award from the Latin Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences. He has served as the chair of the Association of Hispanic Arts, in addition to serving as a visiting professor and receiving honorary degrees for music and humane letters at various universities. He remains active, filling stadiums and concerts halls throughout Latin America.

One of my favourite dance tunes ever, it would sound as good on Miami Vice as it must have in the Paradise Garage at 3am.

Amazing 10 min dub (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l523eAC8xs&t=425) too.

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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 26, 2021, 03:17:48 PM
The B-52's - Summer of Love

(https://www.radiopop.cl/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/bb15-2018-pride-fea-b52s-by-George-DuBose-billboard-1500.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZOWf52lkMM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZOWf52lkMM)

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Bouncing off the Satellites is the fourth studio album by American new wave band the B-52's. Founding member and guitarist Ricky Wilson died of AIDS after the album was completed, but a year prior to its release. With the band too distraught to tour, the album received minimal promotion and failed to yield any hit singles despite some radio stations initially giving a considerable amount of airplay to Summer of Love. The B-52's had gone on hiatus by the time Bouncing Off the Satellites was released, and it took three years for the band to recover from Wilson's death and release their next album, the commercially successful Cosmic Thing.
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Post by: daf on February 26, 2021, 03:26:43 PM
Corker!
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 26, 2021, 03:32:02 PM
Yes, an underrated album.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on February 26, 2021, 03:50:42 PM
There was a slightly different version that turned up on their 'Time Capsule: Songs for a Future Generation' Best Of :

Summer of Love (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1O_TNZfvBY)

From the sound of it, I'd have guessed that they remixed it specially for the new collection (with different drums & more guitars), but they claim it dates from before the 1986 album version!
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Also exclusive to this release is the "Original Unreleased Mix" of their 1986 song "Summer of Love".
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on February 26, 2021, 06:00:00 PM
EAV (Erste Allgemeine Verunsicherung) – Ba-Ba-Banküberfall (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXUlmP5MvnE)

(https://i.imgur.com/GDJWSiO.jpg)

B-side of the single "Ba-Ba-Bankrobbery" - reached #63 in the UK charts in September 1986

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Named after an insurance company, Erste Allgemeine Verunsicherung ["First General Uncertainty"], was formed by Nino Holm and his friend Thomas Spitzer in Austria in 1977. EAV's songs are mostly comical and weird in nature, but the lyrics contain hints of social criticism as well. The band is known for open statements against political extremism especially on the right.

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The band released their first – and only – English language single "Ba-Ba-Bankrobbery" in 1986. The song was basically a rap about how a man with no money can survive and comes up with the idea of robbing a bank as he can't think of any other way. The "English-German" version is just the English version in a German accent. It is not a bilingual version as the title may suggest. The standard UK 7" featured the German accent version on the A side and the German-language version on the B side.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: jamiefairlie on February 26, 2021, 06:30:25 PM
Half Man Half Biscuit - The Trumpton Riots

https://youtu.be/KueeB5_9V7s (https://youtu.be/KueeB5_9V7s)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c2/HMHB-TheTrumptonRiotsEP.jpg)

Elevate!

After their debut album was released in 1985, this is their first single, detailing the collapse of law and order in the delightful market town at the heart of Trumptonshire.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 26, 2021, 08:06:00 PM
Psycho III main theme - Carter Burwell  Released on MCA in 1986.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/1iYuYb.jpg)

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One of the best OST's from the eighties. It's in the first few minutes but enjoy this new mix of the highlights anyway. Mother would like that.

Carter Burwell (born November 18, 1955, in New York City) scored a lot of soundtracks for films by Ethan and Joel Coen. Fargo, Blood Simple, Barton Fink and Raising Arizona are just some examples.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayDX6WVATOU
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 26, 2021, 09:14:39 PM
There was a slightly different version that turned up on their 'Time Capsule: Songs for a Future Generation' Best Of :

From the sound of it, I'd have guessed that they remixed it specially for the new collection (with different drums & more guitars), but they claim it dates from before the 1986 album version!

Ah! I've never heard that version before.
Title: Re: An Alternative History of "Pop" Music: Part 2, 1982 -
Post by: daf on February 26, 2021, 09:38:28 PM
The Adult Net - Waking Up In The Sun (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvuh1sD7ps8)

(https://i.imgur.com/dBEueAl.jpg) 

Released in August 1986 - peaked at #94 in the UK chart in September 1986

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Laura Elisse Salenger was raised in Los Angeles and Chicago. Studying theatre and literature at Bennington College in Vermont, she formed a group, Banda Dratsing, in which she performed as bassist/vocalist; she adopted the name "Brix" after the Clash's 1979 song "The Guns of Brixton".

Brix met Mark E. Smith, vocalist of The Fall, at a Chicago concert in April 1983; she moved to his native England, where they settled in Manchester and married in July of that year. She joined the group on guitar and vocals for the album Perverted by Language. She co-wrote some of the best-regarded Fall tracks from the period, and is acknowledged for introducing a more mainstream, pop-oriented element to the group's sound.

While remaining with The Fall, Brix formed The Adult Net along with fellow Fall member Simon Rogers in late 1984, and they released a cover version of the American psychedelic rock band Strawberry Alarm Clock's 1967 hit single, "Incense and Peppermints", on Beggars Banquet in April 1985.
 
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The official band line-up was credited as Brix on vocals and guitar, Ottersley Kipling (Simon Rogers) on bass, Silki Guth (Craig Scanlon) on guitar, and 'Mask' Aiechmann (Karl Burns) on drums. This meant that the official Adult Net line-up was essentially The Fall without Mark E. Smith, although Smith did appear as a guest on a few Adult Net recordings credited as 'Count Gunther Hoalingen'.

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"Edie" – a tribute to Edie Sedgwick, the American actress and one of Andy Warhol's superstars – was released in November 1985, with the line-up down to a trio of Brix, Kipling and Aiechmann. Two singles were released in 1986 : "White Night (Stars Say Go)" [a cover version of "White Night" by the English band The Lines] in June, and "Waking Up in the Sun" in August 1986.

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