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Title: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: willbo on May 16, 2021, 09:29:11 AM
It was an episode in the late 90s I think, (early 00s at latest), it was that round where they have a line up and have to guess which person was in a band

there was a man in the line up who had long hair and a beard, and he had some sort of facial twitches and body shakes

Phil Jupitus and the others drew attention to this and made jokes about him needing his medication and stuff

the guy looked really intense, he was staring crazily, and I couldn't tell if he was really upset or it was an act. It's always stayed in my mind and I think about I see Buzzcocks.



Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: bgmnts on May 16, 2021, 09:31:06 AM
To be fair they used to mercilessly rip the piss out of some of those in the line-ups big time. I do not remember this though, I will say.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: willbo on May 16, 2021, 09:35:20 AM
I've always wanted to know about it...I've wanted to know if he was some guy with Tourette's or Parkinson's who thought he was gonna get through the segment ok and then had his confidence destroyed, or if it just an act and he was a member of the crew, playing up being crazy for the camera. He looked like he was having a breakdown.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: icehaven on May 16, 2021, 09:55:52 AM
Did he turn out to be the former band member?
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: willbo on May 16, 2021, 10:18:16 AM
no, I don't think he was. I remember him walking off looking angry like he was either gonna massacre the studio or at least sue the show for distress. But I always wanted to see it again and see if I could "read" if it was an act on rewatch.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: OnlyRegisteredSoICanRead on May 16, 2021, 10:20:36 AM
It was always a nasty sneering show wasn't it? Even ignoring Mark Lamarr's apparent problem with women.



https://youtu.be/jCbD6MZqQWM?list=PLSa-fSDwZthdtMIQRQGwZyunHy22NhtVA&t=156
You know what that is.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: jobotic on May 16, 2021, 10:23:19 AM
Hated that bit.

These people look like they do mundane jobs not like us shit comedians and talentless musicians. Let's do a coke laugh at them.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: icehaven on May 16, 2021, 10:40:01 AM
I was recently listening to one of the many Adam Buxton podcast episodes where he recounts how he's died on various panel shows, and I'm sure he said something about how on Buzzcocks the writers go through all the pre-written material with the hosts and guests beforehand and they each had to say which bits they wanted to do. This puts the guests on the back foot because they don't really know how it's going to work or feel confident enough to say what they want to do, so Phil Jupitus would just claim all the best jokes.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: DrGreggles on May 16, 2021, 10:44:45 AM
Phil Jupitus would just claim all the best jokes.

Bit cruel of them to edit all of those out of every episode.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: neardark on May 16, 2021, 10:48:09 AM
I remember an intense and scary looking fella but don't remember him twitching. Felt like he was playing a character.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: cheesebot on May 16, 2021, 10:58:29 AM
Bit cruel of them to edit all of those out of every episode.

karma * 3
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: willbo on May 16, 2021, 11:14:09 AM
I believe the episode would have been 1999-2001, 98 at very earliest and 02 at very latest. Just because that's when I mainly watched Buzzcocks and I remember this ep was around when I first became a fan of the show.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: The Lurker on May 16, 2021, 11:16:44 AM
I was recently listening to one of the many Adam Buxton podcast episodes where he recounts how he's died on various panel shows, and I'm sure he said something about how on Buzzcocks the writers go through all the pre-written material with the hosts and guests beforehand and they each had to say which bits they wanted to do. This puts the guests on the back foot because they don't really know how it's going to work or feel confident enough to say what they want to do, so Phil Jupitus would just claim all the best jokes.

Yeah, I remember Buxton writing something like that. There was another comedian (Dave Gorman, maybe?) who wasn't too complimentary about their time on Buzzcocks
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: lankyguy95 on May 16, 2021, 11:20:31 AM
I was recently listening to one of the many Adam Buxton podcast episodes where he recounts how he's died on various panel shows,
Do you know which episode that was?
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: willbo on May 16, 2021, 11:20:58 AM
 the dialogue was, number (x) in the line up was calm but sad/depressed looking, and number (y) was the shaking guy. Phil Jupitus said "does number (x) want some medication? Cause I think number (y)'s got some!"

(put x and y cause obviously can't remember their exact numbers)
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: ajsmith2 on May 16, 2021, 11:25:35 AM
Fly Me To Lampoon
I'm a faded star
Show we what abuse is like from Jupitus, Lamarr
In other words: Identity Parade
In other words: Buzzcocks, humiliate me.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: ajsmith2 on May 16, 2021, 11:32:09 AM
My least favourite identity parade moment was Rick Wakeman identifying Polly Brown from Pickettywitch by ogling her arse. Just complete late 90s/early 00s laddish dehumanizing misery. Can't believe I used to watch this crap regularly because of the superficial pop music history content. What a poverty of content there was back then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdAiVN27z9g
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: pigamus on May 16, 2021, 11:36:01 AM
I was recently listening to one of the many Adam Buxton podcast episodes where he recounts how he's died on various panel shows, and I'm sure he said something about how on Buzzcocks the writers go through all the pre-written material with the hosts and guests beforehand and they each had to say which bits they wanted to do. This puts the guests on the back foot because they don't really know how it's going to work or feel confident enough to say what they want to do, so Phil Jupitus would just claim all the best jokes.

Are they jokes about a particular subject then? Like, if they mention Elton John, they’ve got a store of shit jokes ready?
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Spiteface on May 16, 2021, 11:39:20 AM
Guessing Lamarr swiped up all the Chris Moyles/Geri Halliwell "jokes" then...
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: paruses on May 16, 2021, 11:47:01 AM
Yeah, I remember Buxton writing something like that. There was another comedian (Dave Gorman, maybe?) who wasn't too complimentary about their time on Buzzcocks

Stewart Lee? He spoke about how Bill Oddie was pretty great on their episode but edited to look like a humourless git.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: jobotic on May 16, 2021, 12:01:52 PM
Fucking hated that programme
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: willbo on May 16, 2021, 12:05:07 PM
I wouldn't have had the self confidence to dislike Buzzcocks in my late teens. If I watched it with my friends and they were all laughing, and I didn't find it funny, I'd assume there was something wrong with me and try to force myself to like it.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: pigamus on May 16, 2021, 12:16:25 PM
I downloaded all the Lamarr ones off UK Nova one hot summer - 2003ish - and spent a lovely few days drinking cheap cider and watching them all. Nice memory, but I think they’ve probably aged very badly. Wouldn’t want to do it now.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Magnum Valentino on May 16, 2021, 12:19:56 PM
Stewart Lee? He spoke about how Bill Oddie was pretty great on their episode but edited to look like a humourless git.

No, it wasn't that, the edit was designed to make him look dottery and not-all-there (according to Lee).
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: BlodwynPig on May 16, 2021, 12:23:36 PM
No better than comedians they professed to hate - Bernard Manning etc.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: OnlyRegisteredSoICanRead on May 16, 2021, 12:26:26 PM
Did he turn out to be the former band member?

Donny Tourette?
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on May 16, 2021, 12:28:28 PM
Fly Me To Lampoon
I'm a faded star
Show we what abuse is like from Jupitus, Lamarr
In other words: Identity Parade
In other words: Buzzcocks, humiliate me.

Brilliant.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: vainsharpdad on May 16, 2021, 01:03:32 PM
Enjoyed the Amstel era at the time - and hey, it wasn’t as bad as TTIAO
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: willbo on May 16, 2021, 01:15:51 PM
It wasn't Donny Tourrette. It was years before DT was famous and this guy would be 20 years older than DT
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: notjosh on May 16, 2021, 01:16:38 PM
I thought it was pretty cunty of Amstel to take the piss out of Preston From The Ordinary Boys' girlfriend by reading her autobiography with disdain. It was implied that he was a diva for walking off, but who the fuck is gonna sit there and let someone call their girlfriend thick and shallow like that?
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Replies From View on May 16, 2021, 02:03:22 PM
and hey, it wasn’t as bad as TTIAO

This is only because music is better than sport.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on May 16, 2021, 02:07:34 PM
Enjoyed the Amstel era at the time - and hey, it wasn’t as bad as TTIAO

“This Time In Alan O’Partridge”?
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: sutin on May 16, 2021, 03:06:49 PM
I thought it was pretty cunty of Amstel to take the piss out of Preston From The Ordinary Boys' girlfriend by reading her autobiography with disdain. It was implied that he was a diva for walking off, but who the fuck is gonna sit there and let someone call their girlfriend thick and shallow like that?

I've never liked Amstel and that was my first vindication that he is/was a horrible little weasel cunt.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: markburgle on May 16, 2021, 03:21:46 PM
Can't believe I used to watch this crap regularly because of the superficial pop music history content.

Yeah, I was a kid first discovering the world of music outside of Radio 1 and that was almost the only show where I could see bit of old punk bands and stuff. Hardly cared about the quiz part
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Spiteface on May 16, 2021, 03:23:27 PM
I thought it was pretty cunty of Amstel to take the piss out of Preston From The Ordinary Boys' girlfriend by reading her autobiography with disdain. It was implied that he was a diva for walking off, but who the fuck is gonna sit there and let someone call their girlfriend thick and shallow like that?

He looked in a foul mood before Amstell even started reading his wife's book, to be fair.

Not excusing it, but you could tell Preston didn't want to be there.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Mister Six on May 16, 2021, 03:35:59 PM
I've never liked Amstel and that was my first vindication that he is/was a horrible little weasel cunt.

Wasn't Amstell quite apologetic about his snidey cunt persona on the Adam Buxton podcast? Saying it came from a place of insecurity and he was quite regretful? I recall something like that, at least.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: wrec on May 16, 2021, 04:02:32 PM
I remember Lemmy supposedly walked off in disgust after they were nasty about women in one of those lineups. The following week Lamarr joked about how it was pointless to walk off after they'd finished filming. Quite something (and very telling of the time) to be so dismissive about accusations of misogyny like that. I think they idea was "they know what to expect and they love it".
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on May 16, 2021, 04:03:41 PM
Wasn't Amstell quite apologetic about his snidey cunt persona on the Adam Buxton podcast? Saying it came from a place of insecurity and he was quite regretful? I recall something like that, at least.

Yeah sounds familiar to me as well. He’s always seemed a good egg when he’s not being a prick to people.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Tokyo van Ramming on May 16, 2021, 04:10:02 PM
Amstell's been nothing but apologetic for that era ever since. He's Walked it Back, and in fine style. He dealt with it in Grandma's House, which I think was the first thing he did after Buzzcocks.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: sutin on May 16, 2021, 04:14:17 PM
I've never seen him in anything apart from Buzzcocks and I skipped that Buxton podcast because of him. Taking into account what's been said here, I guess I could give him another chance.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: ajsmith2 on May 16, 2021, 04:21:12 PM
Grandma's House is a brilliant bit of self parody (I mean it's far more than that, but that's a major element of Amstell's character) of Amstell's Buzzcocks career that made me do an genuine 180 on my opinion of the guy. It really gets across how depressingly life sappingly hollow that persona is, and how much of a shameful waste of his and everyone else's time he found it in retrospect.

 If you hate Amstell on Buzzcocks, the closing scene of the GH with Amstell rejected and humiliated by those he sought to impress,  reduced to watching NMTB clips on Youtube while being fed beans and toast by his gran, his dreams of bettering himself shown to be pathetic Billy Liar like delusions as he faces up to the fact that this shite is likely gonna be his legacy, will show that you still don't hate him half as much as he hates himself.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: BlodwynPig on May 16, 2021, 04:25:05 PM
Enjoyed the Amstel era at the time - and hey, it wasn’t as bad as TTIAO

This Time In Alan's Office?


ah, Ferris was there first
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: up_the_hampipe on May 16, 2021, 04:39:00 PM
I think Amstell's shame only comes from the fact that Buzzcocks is a lot more low-brow than the things he really wanted to do. There was recently a Guardian interview with Amstell and Miquita Oliver celebrating Popworld, he certainly seems to stand by the intentions and targets of what he was doing. He's always defended himself when someone has tried to suggest he went a bit far. He just looks back on that part of his life as wasted on trying to deconstruct the concept of celebrity, when really he needed to work on himself.

I don't think anything he did on Buzzcocks, outside of perhaps a gag or two I don't remember, was unjustifiable. Lamarr was the nasty one, there were no motivations behind his attacks other than spite, even that was sometimes funny though.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on May 16, 2021, 04:48:05 PM
Loved it when I was an insecure hateful thoughtless teenager

Trying to be a better shit now, would probably disagree with my past self seeing it again
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: icehaven on May 16, 2021, 05:03:08 PM
Do you know which episode that was?

What, which episode of the AB podcast? He's mentioned it loads of times, particularly how disastrous his HIGNFY appearance was. Someone else has posted that he wrote something about Buzzcocks too and I've read Ramblebook so maybe I read it there as well.
If you mean which episode of Buzzcocks he was on I dunno, I'll see if it's on youtube.

Edit: Series 25 episode 4, here it is. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7tdw95 (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7tdw95)
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: msm on May 16, 2021, 05:21:58 PM
He looked in a foul mood before Amstell even started reading his wife's book, to be fair.

Not excusing it, but you could tell Preston didn't want to be there.

 think they may have very  recently broke up or divorced , so he was understandable upset ?
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: willbo on May 16, 2021, 06:00:20 PM
I read Buxton's ramble book recently and I don't remember any mention of nmtb or hignfy
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Utter Shit on May 16, 2021, 06:14:02 PM
I think Amstell's shame only comes from the fact that Buzzcocks is a lot more low-brow than the things he really wanted to do. There was recently a Guardian interview with Amstell and Miquita Oliver celebrating Popworld, he certainly seems to stand by the intentions and targets of what he was doing. He's always defended himself when someone has tried to suggest he went a bit far. He just looks back on that part of his life as wasted on trying to deconstruct the concept of celebrity, when really he needed to work on himself.

I don't think anything he did on Buzzcocks, outside of perhaps a gag or two I don't remember, was unjustifiable. Lamarr was the nasty one, there were no motivations behind his attacks other than spite, even that was sometimes funny though.

The Rhys Thomas and Tony Way Podcast (which was brilliant btw) had a few stories about Lamarr being a really horrible cunt. I miss that podcast, Rhys Thomas was fantastically indiscreet when pissed.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: checkoutgirl on May 16, 2021, 06:25:19 PM
He's Walked it Back

Why did you capitalise walked and back?
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: paruses on May 16, 2021, 06:42:30 PM
No, it wasn't that, the edit was designed to make him look dottery and not-all-there (according to Lee).
Yes - that more than hunmourless. But I did think that Lee said B. Oddie had some good lines and was pretty fun
 but they cut them all. I would have to reread the article though as I only really remember the gist that it was dishonest.

Didn't Richard Herring also speak about it without fondness?
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: up_the_hampipe on May 16, 2021, 06:46:39 PM
It’s weird for Lee to be annoyed about the edit, when he suggests in the episode that they should fade in and out of Oddie talking to signify the passage of time as he rambles on. It’s based off his joke, and he wouldn’t have made the joke if Oddie wasn’t behaving a certain way.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: lankyguy95 on May 16, 2021, 06:53:50 PM
What, which episode of the AB podcast? He's mentioned it loads of times, particularly how disastrous his HIGNFY appearance was. Someone else has posted that he wrote something about Buzzcocks too and I've read Ramblebook so maybe I read it there as well.
If you mean which episode of Buzzcocks he was on I dunno, I'll see if it's on youtube.

Edit: Series 25 episode 4, here it is. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7tdw95 (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7tdw95)
Nah it's alright, I meant his podcast. I dip in and out of it so I don't remember. Thanks though.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: studpuppet on May 16, 2021, 08:26:05 PM
Back to the starey guy. I seem to recall they brought one extra back a few times (may have been female, or there may have been two they brought back?). I remember the look of contempt on their face(s), and that they dressed them in the manner of the pop star involved, the more incongruous the better (wigs, cross-dressing etc).

Edit: this guy?

https://m.facebook.com/The-creepy-number-5-from-Never-Mind-The-Buzzcocks-Identity-Parade-round-33063838019 (https://m.facebook.com/The-creepy-number-5-from-Never-Mind-The-Buzzcocks-Identity-Parade-round-33063838019)
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: vainsharpdad on May 16, 2021, 08:33:21 PM



TTIAO = They Think It's All Over


*In case anyone is genuinely baffled.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Dr Rock on May 16, 2021, 08:33:59 PM
I didn't like the section's unfunny cruelty either, but I assume they were paid extras/hired from Ugly, and knew what they were getting into, not duped members of the public.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: idunnosomename on May 16, 2021, 08:41:02 PM
Enjoyed the Amstel era at the time - and hey, it wasn’t as bad as TTIAO
which was also created and produced by Simon Bullivant and Bill Matthews
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: willbo on May 16, 2021, 08:58:23 PM
Back to the starey guy. I seem to recall they brought one extra back a few times (may have been female, or there may have been two they brought back?). I remember the look of contempt on their face(s), and that they dressed them in the manner of the pop star involved, the more incongruous the better (wigs, cross-dressing etc).

Edit: this guy?

https://m.facebook.com/The-creepy-number-5-from-Never-Mind-The-Buzzcocks-Identity-Parade-round-33063838019 (https://m.facebook.com/The-creepy-number-5-from-Never-Mind-The-Buzzcocks-Identity-Parade-round-33063838019)

I don't think that's the guy I'm remembering, he was more heavy metal looking (with long dark hair and beard and I think leather jacket), and not as intentionally funny looking as him.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: checkoutgirl on May 17, 2021, 12:17:01 AM
I didn't like the section's unfunny cruelty either, but I assume they were paid extras/hired from Ugly, and knew what they were getting into, not duped members of the public.

I'd assume that but it's still one of the few comedy things I look back on and cringe about and to put that in context I can rewatch Bo Selecta with not a hint of guilt. But that Buzzcocks segment is just such bare faced mean spirited bullying. Literally lining up 5 people and taking the piss out of them. It aligns perfectly with the worst stuff from the 70s and 80s.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Kankurette on May 17, 2021, 09:35:56 AM
One of the guys from Space was asked to do the ID parade, but turned it down. I don’t blame him.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: holyzombiejesus on May 17, 2021, 01:47:48 PM
Wasn't Buzzcocks partly responsible for Lauren Laverne's post-Kenickie career?
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: sutin on May 17, 2021, 05:02:50 PM
Wasn't Buzzcocks partly responsible for Lauren Laverne's post-Kenickie career?

I believe so yeah!
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Satchmo Distel on May 19, 2021, 10:10:41 AM
Has Lamarr ever expressed regret about his misogyny in the series? The misogyny was always, it seemed, coming from the host not the captains, although the writers probably bear some responsibility.

'Shooting Stars' may also have ventured there occasionally despite the layers of irony and Vic's self-deprecation. Vic standing behind a woman and rubbing his thighs does not withstand criticism when placed in the context of the laddism decade (or any decade, but especially that one).
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: The Ombudsman on May 19, 2021, 01:14:11 PM
I ran into Lamarr on a very quiet Sunday in Rye with his mates.

He seemed to be overly loud and trying to be noticed.

Fits.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: PaulTMA on May 19, 2021, 04:02:03 PM
I remember reading an interview with Sarah Cracknell, where she claimed she regretfully took acid before the filming of her Shooting Stars episode, and that Vic rubbing his thighs in her direction wasn't a highlight
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Ambient Sheep on May 19, 2021, 06:14:00 PM
'Shooting Stars' may also have ventured there occasionally despite the layers of irony and Vic's self-deprecation. Vic standing behind a woman and rubbing his thighs does not withstand criticism when placed in the context of the laddism decade (or any decade, but especially that one).

Even at the time I felt that, as it went on, it became less and less ironic and more and more creepy.

Having rewatched S1 and half of S2 recently, it now just seems creepy even from the off.


I remember reading an interview with Sarah Cracknell, where she claimed she regretfully took acid before the filming of her Shooting Stars episode, and that Vic rubbing his thighs in her direction wasn't a highlight

It must have been really good acid, because according to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Shooting_Stars_episodes) she's never been on it!
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: pigamus on May 19, 2021, 06:22:02 PM
I remember reading an interview with Sarah Cracknell, where she claimed she regretfully took acid before the filming of her Shooting Stars episode, and that Vic rubbing his thighs in her direction wasn't a highlight

It’s probably Buzzcocks, the one they made a video of, and Jonathan Ross pointing out her very prominent nipples
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: kngen on May 19, 2021, 09:36:13 PM
I remember Lemmy supposedly walked off in disgust after they were nasty about women in one of those lineups.

I remember the general chat among peers/in pubs/online etc being 'pfft, what a square' but definitely made me think he was one of the good guys - something consolidated by reading his autobiography a few years later. But then there's the massive collection of nazi memorobilia ...
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: PaulTMA on May 19, 2021, 10:29:37 PM
Even at the time I felt that, as it went on, it became less and less ironic and more and more creepy.

Having rewatched S1 and half of S2 recently, it now just seems creepy even from the off.


It must have been really good acid, because according to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Shooting_Stars_episodes) she's never been on it!

That is very weird.  I'm sure she said this in Select.  It wouldn't fit Buzzcocks, would it?  You'd need Vic Reeves rubbing his thighs, for a start.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: pigamus on May 19, 2021, 10:35:33 PM
That is very weird.  I'm sure she said this in Select.  It wouldn't fit Buzzcocks, would it?  You'd need Vic Reeves rubbing his thighs, for a start.

Possibly not a normal episode, but Never Rewind The Buzzcocks might have stuck in her mind as it was an extended thing, and Jonathan Ross was leering at her tits (as was I to be absolutely fair)
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: lipsink on May 19, 2021, 10:43:25 PM
I remember the lineup round one time where the actual band member was extremely wasted. I think it was the episode Melanie Blatt was on, for some reason.

Another ep that Rick Wakeman was on he made a joke which implied he didn't get on with his son or something. Someone said a comment like: "Your son will die when he sees that" and Wakeman said "We live in hope". It came out sounding pretty cunty.

Phill Jupitus is a knobhead according to friends in the industry.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: PaulTMA on May 19, 2021, 11:57:04 PM
Jupitus gave me a withering death stare when I accidentally made eye contact with him in the bar of Edinburgh's Usher Hall.  I was mainly insulted for the assumption I wanted to look at him
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: up_the_hampipe on May 20, 2021, 12:07:36 AM
Has Lamarr ever expressed regret about his misogyny in the series?

He hasn't said anything. His final episode on Buzzcocks was one of his last ever TV appearances.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: idunnosomename on May 20, 2021, 12:42:57 AM
Even at the time I felt that, as it went on, it became less and less ironic and more and more creepy.

Having rewatched S1 and half of S2 recently, it now just seems creepy even from the off.
i'd have to rewatch it but I recall it as so childish and absurd it's a fairly innocent mocking of laddish 90s phwoaring.
it's like Johnny Bravo. What's he going to do? He's just a fucking idiot. more fool him.

though like a lot of things on Shooting Stars the joke wore thin pretty quickly. the panel show curse.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: bigfatheart on May 20, 2021, 06:46:59 AM
Another ep that Rick Wakeman was on he made a joke which implied he didn't get on with his son or something. Someone said a comment like: "Your son will die when he sees that" and Wakeman said "We live in hope". It came out sounding pretty cunty.

It wasn't as extreme as that - he made a few embarrassing jokes about sex, and it'd already been pointed out that he had a teenaged son who'd probably be embarrassed by his Dad going on about sex on TV. When he made another one later, Sean Hughes (I think) said his son'd probably have run away from home by now, and yeah, "we live in hope". Didn't come across as particularly sinister as far as I recall.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Mr Trumpet on May 20, 2021, 10:50:32 PM
I recently passed Rick Wakeman on the Tottenham Court Road. My honest first thought upon seeing him was "he's remarkably overweight for a tramp". Then I realised who it was.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Blue Jam on May 21, 2021, 09:01:31 AM
Quite tempted to go to this ngl:

https://myticket.co.uk/artists/rick-wakeman-december

Learning piano atm and would like to hear the Bowie stuff even between the dad jokes.

(you're thinking "that's an old photo", aren't you Mr Trumpet?)
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Bad Ambassador on May 21, 2021, 09:13:18 AM
I recently passed Rick Wakeman on the Tottenham Court Road.

Very painful.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: PaulTMA on May 21, 2021, 10:24:20 PM
(https://i2-prod.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article9062106.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/rick-wakeman.jpg)
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Spode on May 21, 2021, 10:47:40 PM
I thought it was pretty cunty of Amstel to take the piss out of Preston From The Ordinary Boys' girlfriend by reading her autobiography with disdain. It was implied that he was a diva for walking off, but who the fuck is gonna sit there and let someone call their girlfriend thick and shallow like that?

Jupitus happy to get involved as well, only a couple of years after bouncing round on stage with The Ordinary Boys at Glastonbury, covering The Specials.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: NoOffenceLynn on May 22, 2021, 04:37:01 PM
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Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on May 23, 2021, 10:40:42 AM
It's just occurred to me that 'Buzzcocks' is probably a colloquial term for a motorised female sex toy.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: gib on May 23, 2021, 10:45:37 AM
It's just occurred to me that 'Buzzcocks' is probably a colloquial term for a motorised female sex toy.

wikipedia says "Devoto and Shelley chose the name "Buzzcocks" after reading the headline, "It's the Buzz, Cock!", in a review of the TV series Rock Follies in Time Out magazine. The "buzz" is the excitement of playing on stage; "cock" is northern English slang meaning "friend". They thought it captured the excitement of the nascent punk scene, as well as having humorous sexual connotations following Pete Shelley's time working in a Bolton adult shop."

so that makes sense
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: jobotic on May 23, 2021, 10:47:22 AM
Bolton? No, strap on.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 23, 2021, 12:18:52 PM
I was recently listening to one of the many Adam Buxton podcast episodes where he recounts how he's died on various panel shows, and I'm sure he said something about how on Buzzcocks the writers go through all the pre-written material with the hosts and guests beforehand and they each had to say which bits they wanted to do.

I've heard the exact same thing said about Rory McGrath on They Think it's all Over, although I guess he's sort of put out to pasture for being a drunken letch these days.

The line-ups could be pretty mean-spirited, it was funny when they got Athelston in as a running gag though.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: basterfeldt on May 25, 2021, 04:28:48 PM
I've encountered Lamarr twice where I work, once he insisted on using his vape pen indoors and the other time he was just a general arse. Put some timber on too.
My initial excitement evaporated as quickly as his candy floss flavored juice.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 25, 2021, 05:40:08 PM
I've heard the exact same thing said about Rory McGrath on They Think it's all Over, although I guess he's sort of put out to pasture for being a drunken letch these days.

Convicted stalker
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: gilbertharding on May 25, 2021, 08:42:02 PM
Convicted stalker

Much fun can be had by spotting people accusing him *criminal behaviour x* on twitter, which he angrily denies - you can jump in and say 'quite right, Rory, it was harrassment, wasn't it?'
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: NoOffenceLynn on May 26, 2021, 01:29:23 PM
The treatment of Gail Porter on the show was awful, she was in tears and Lamarr just kept going, oblivious to her upset.

And yes, the line up parade was never funny just another chance to say abusive stuff to people, in the name of "edgy" comedy.


And Lamarr really seemed to enjoy and relish this humiliation, while reading off his pre-written card "jokes" that were probably penned by him and some other writer.

Glad he's not on our screens anymore.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: neardark on May 26, 2021, 10:20:28 PM
And Lamarr really seemed to enjoy and relish this humiliation, while reading off his pre-written card "jokes" that were probably penned by him and some other writer.

Sean Lock
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Tokyo van Ramming on May 26, 2021, 11:29:40 PM
Sean Lock

Baby, Sean Lock!
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on May 27, 2021, 11:41:59 AM
The lovely nice and kind Stephen Fry being disingenuously misogynistic in the identity parade round https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEXPaukEakc
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: paruses on May 27, 2021, 12:32:50 PM
The lovely nice and kind Stephen Fry being disingenuously misogynistic in the identity parade round https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEXPaukEakc

That's pretty horrible. It's sounds like a prepared joke too and horribly crowbarred in for no reason. At least he looks like he knows it's shit. Maybe that's worse.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: willbo on May 27, 2021, 02:47:15 PM
I can never recognise the people in the line ups, even after seeing the clip...
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: robprosser on May 27, 2021, 03:06:58 PM
The treatment of Gail Porter on the show was awful, she was in tears and Lamarr just kept going, oblivious to her upset.
It's very generous of you to say he's oblivious to her being upset. He was very aware that he'd reduced her to tears, the despicable cunt.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: NoOffenceLynn on May 27, 2021, 03:17:46 PM
The lovely nice and kind Stephen Fry being disingenuously misogynistic in the identity parade round https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEXPaukEakc

Fuck that, it is really hatefull, considering Fry who always plays to the gallery as a misunderstood outsider, who "gets" women. He doesn't and never has.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: willbo on May 27, 2021, 04:37:01 PM
didn't he marry a baby faced 20 year old young man a few years ago?
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Jollity on May 27, 2021, 05:31:39 PM
Not quite that young, I think, but definitely thirty years younger than him.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Shameless Custard on May 27, 2021, 06:43:46 PM
My partner went off Fry when he married much younger than him. "I just imagine him on top of the boy, squashing him" was the general gist

I went off Fry probably around 95, the flouncing cunt
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Mobbd on May 28, 2021, 10:58:47 AM
I agree with much of what is being said here, especially about the misogynist Lamarr era and double-especially to the punching down of the identity parade whether staged or actual.

But can I offer a contrary view with the caveat that I haven't re-watched a single episode since broadcast?

I always felt that in the broader context of the 90s/00s TV landscape and/or celebrity culture, Buzzcocks was kinda holding celebs to account for their twattish preening and attention-seeking and their massive paycheques for the production of vapid twaddle. Simon Amstell in particular was good at popping the balloons of absurdly inflated egos, knocking them down a peg or two within a sort-of safe space provided by comedy. And maybe it encouraged people at home to see how ridiculous celebrity was and that maybe it shouldn't be seen as noble or something to be envious of.

It was like an anti-Heat magazine, which, when put that way, might be seen as a public service. Or like Points of View in that a minority of haters with a bit of taste can get a word in against the winning dimwits for once. Or like Prime Minister's Questions when the Big-I-Am is roasted for a bit before they go back to work. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Mobbd on May 28, 2021, 11:07:53 AM
It's very generous of you to say he's oblivious to her being upset. He was very aware that he'd reduced her to tears, the despicable cunt.

I was at a QI recording and I was taken aback by some racist shit he said to Pakistani comedian Sami Shar. It didn't make the cut, obviously.

It was like a "hard microagression" along the lines of "I don't know how you can admit to coming from such a terrible country" as if Sami was personally responsible for where he was born and what it's like there (and as if people of Fry's own social background weren't somehow responsible for what it's like there).

(Please don't knock him for the age gap thing though. Come on now.)
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: katesbush on May 28, 2021, 08:32:36 PM
I haven't visited this forum for many a year but logged on recently and felt I had to post this..

Simon Amstell on the Buzzcocks reading the final paragraph of Preston's girlfriend's book..
Man, this unclassy act was manufactured to hurt, pure and simple. Think about what he was doing FFS.

The only 'decent' thing Preston could have done, was walk away.
Sit there and take it? Absorb the humiliation ? Seriously?

I was a much younger man at the time, but I wanted very much for Preston to walk over & punch Simon hard a few times
in the face with an angry fist. Shock everyone. Put that cvnt in hospital. Not lose any sleep afterwards & fvck the consequences.
I would've respected him for it.

Not familar with Preston's work (Then or even now) But fvck that cunt Amstell. I've hated him ever since. Shame on anyone who's ever forgiven him.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Captain Z on May 28, 2021, 08:37:07 PM
I know, it was a totally inappropriate thing to do on TV.

Some of us hadn't finished reading it yet.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: DrGreggles on May 28, 2021, 10:00:48 PM
I haven't visited this forum for many a year but logged on recently and felt I had to post this..

Simon Amstell on the Buzzcocks reading the final paragraph of Preston's girlfriend's book..
Man, this unclassy act was manufactured to hurt, pure and simple. Think about what he was doing FFS.

The only 'decent' thing Preston could have done, was walk away.
Sit there and take it? Absorb the humiliation ? Seriously?

I was a much younger man at the time, but I wanted very much for Preston to walk over & punch Simon hard a few times
in the face with an angry fist. Shock everyone. Put that cvnt in hospital. Not lose any sleep afterwards & fvck the consequences.
I would've respected him for it.

Not familar with Preston's work (Then or even now) But fvck that cunt Amstell. I've hated him ever since. Shame on anyone who's ever forgiven him.

Amstell was mocking a pointless cash-in celeb book, probably not even written by [insert pointless celeb's name].
Preston had been on before and knew it was a piss-taking show, but decided to flounce regardless.

Stank of PR to me anyway. An attempt to get his shit band one last headline:
'CUNT FLOUNCES'
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 28, 2021, 11:21:47 PM
It's an absolute cuntfest, really. Sad, manipulated pop cunts being abused by sociopathic comedian wankers for the benefit of pub bore pop trivia arseholes.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Melody Lee on May 29, 2021, 07:57:16 AM
there was a man in the line up who had long hair and a beard, and he had some sort of facial twitches and body shakes

Phil Jupitus and the others drew attention to this and made jokes about him needing his medication and stuff

the guy looked really intense, he was staring crazily, and I couldn't tell if he was really upset or it was an act. It's always stayed in my mind and I think about I see Buzzcocks.

I think I remember something like this on Buzzcocks around the early 2000s, though my memory of it is vague and possibly false, as your post reminded me of another lineup guest whose anxiety was palpable and uncomfortable to watch.

I remember a guy in the lineup with unusually large/muscular arms, shaking quite noticeably. He seemed to be nervously anticipating a pisstaking from the panel and twitched when they made a joke about the guy next to him, which drew their attention.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Satchmo Distel on May 29, 2021, 03:09:41 PM
Would I be right in guessing that Sean Hughes had expected it to be a cleansing laugh at the expense of celebrity culture and had fucked off when he realized it was just the host being a snide sexist cunt with the captains expected to play along?
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on May 29, 2021, 03:19:52 PM
I went off Fry probably around 95, the flouncing cunt

It was that year he went missing while in a West End play.  I can't recall the show's name but Rik Mayall was in it too and was apparently in tears, thinking Fry had topped himself.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 29, 2021, 03:22:09 PM
Would I be right in guessing that Sean Hughes had expected it to be a cleansing laugh at the expense of celebrity culture and had fucked off when he realized it was just the host being a snide sexist cunt with the captains expected to play along?

I think Sean Hughes fucked off when he made a pile of money big enough to buy his house outright and not have to do much else.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: icehaven on May 29, 2021, 03:31:58 PM
Fuck that, it is really hatefull, considering Fry who always plays to the gallery as a misunderstood outsider, who "gets" women. He doesn't and never has.

Didn't he get into trouble once for saying in an interview that straight women never enjoy sex and just put up with it to keep men happy or get pregnant? He obviously backtracked after and said he was joking or being satirical or something but I can't remember how it ended. Anyway he made himself look pretty daft, so even if it was a joke it was clearly too subtle.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Brundle-Fly on May 29, 2021, 03:37:50 PM
I think it was more along the lines that men are generally shackled to their libido more than women are.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on May 29, 2021, 06:00:16 PM
I went off Fry probably around 95, the flouncing cunt

It was that year he went missing while in a West End play.

I assume that's what Custard's "flouncing cunt" was a reference to.

I've just remembered he peroxided his hair blond at the time as well. A pity no one made a joke about that after his bitchy hair dye remark on Buzzcocks.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on May 29, 2021, 06:49:38 PM
Oh well, while we're talking about Fry's disappearance, these two brief news items from ITN and the BBC on the same day show how brilliantly The Day Today nailed it.
Even the member of the public in each piece has a TDT ring to it.

ITN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfi_Uhm5sMs  'His parents say they're distressed and worried about him.'

BBC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiWLityH_ws  'His parents say they're not worried about his safety.'
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Leej88 on May 29, 2021, 06:56:45 PM
The show was on life support by 2015 was good when it started.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Spiteface on May 29, 2021, 07:08:59 PM
Amstell was mocking a pointless cash-in celeb book, probably not even written by [insert pointless celeb's name].
Preston had been on before and knew it was a piss-taking show, but decided to flounce regardless.

Like I said earlier in the thread, he looked pissed off right at the start, before Amstell even pulled the book out. Plus, it was fucking Chantelle from "Celebrity" Big Brother.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Leej88 on May 29, 2021, 07:12:31 PM
He says he regrets walking off and should have not done it.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Dr Rock on May 29, 2021, 08:11:30 PM
It was a no win situation. So really he need to perform a Kobayashi Maru. I don't know what that would have been under the circumstances.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 29, 2021, 08:23:06 PM
Getting some lookalike in the audience was still a pretty funny response to it. Quite contrived and probably talked about to the point it's less funny than people think it is (just like HIGNFY replacing someone with a pack of lard - again still funny).
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Leej88 on May 29, 2021, 10:19:08 PM
Phil Jupitius was there so long he looked like someone's Dad who had been picked to be team captain at the end.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: peteprodge on May 30, 2021, 09:00:14 AM
I assume that's what Custard's "flouncing cunt" was a reference to.

I've just remembered he peroxided his hair blond at the time as well. A pity no one made a joke about that after his bitchy hair dye remark on Buzzcocks.

This quote tends to come up rather a lot from right-wing people on social media...

“It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what." - Stephen Fry, 2005

Apparently that's meant to trigger all the libs. I just find it a tad hypocritical given Fry's reactions to being criticised.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: petrilTanaka on May 30, 2021, 09:08:25 AM
Phil Jupitius was there so long he looked like someone's Dad who had been picked to be team captain at the end.

he went from your uni mate who did a bit part for the Drama Society at late, short notice just to help out to being the mature student who's been at that uni for decades now
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Leej88 on May 30, 2021, 09:49:52 AM
Guess the show on Sky1 will be more PC and for the snowflakes.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: mippy on May 30, 2021, 11:22:19 AM
Guess the show on Sky1 will be more PC and for the snowflakes.

What do you consider 'PC' to mean?
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on May 30, 2021, 11:36:20 AM
Let's just pause to remind ourselves how shit this DVD cover is.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91z0Gwg-6CL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 30, 2021, 02:37:24 PM
I think I might've seen that, if it was the one that got aired on Channel 4 at some point.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Leej88 on May 30, 2021, 03:01:30 PM
Team captains and guests all being lovely is what I mean by PC.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: mippy on May 30, 2021, 05:19:35 PM
That's not what PC is, but I like lovely people, the world loves to love lovely people, so sounds great.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: scarecrow on May 30, 2021, 09:46:10 PM
I often wonder what Huey Morgan would have done to that mug had Rizzle Kicks read out extracts from his wife's book.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on May 30, 2021, 10:26:08 PM
Team captains and guests all being lovely is what I mean by PC.

Makes you sick doesn't it?

Lovely pc CUNTS
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Spiteface on May 30, 2021, 10:40:50 PM
I often wonder what Huey Morgan would have done to that mug had Rizzle Kicks read out extracts from his wife's book.

One would hope he would aim for their heads.

I will still defend Huey. Anyone else would be the same stuck in the same room as Rizzle Kicks and Paul Foot.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: idunnosomename on May 30, 2021, 11:15:40 PM
Makes you sick doesn't it?

Lovely pc CUNTS
An ugly stupid mental wanker paedophile!!!
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on May 30, 2021, 11:54:51 PM
I think I might've seen that, if it was the one that got aired on Channel 4 at some point.

The one special of his I vaguely remember seeing included a section where he showed footage of one of the planes hitting the building on 9/11, and using a remote control moved the video back and forth for 2 seconds either side of the impact while intoning: "Alive... dead... alive... dead..."

Exalted humour indeed, but I've never seen it since.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: willbo on May 31, 2021, 06:18:40 AM
The one special of his I vaguely remember seeing included a section where he showed footage of one of the planes hitting the building on 9/11, and using a remote control moved the video back and forth for 2 seconds either side of the impact while intoning: "Alive... dead... alive... dead..."

Exalted humour indeed, but I've never seen it since.

I remember that as well. I've never really known what he's famous for tbh. As a kid I just assumed he was a dj/journo or something.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: thenoise on May 31, 2021, 09:03:37 AM
Fucking hell. Did anyone laugh?
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: JaDanketies on May 31, 2021, 09:11:15 AM
Wow, Phil Jupitus entered showbiz when he did anti-fascist punk poetry, supporting artists such as  Billy Bragg and The Housemartins.

I also always assumed he was a Chris Moyles-type DJ who loved the sound of his own voice. Never thought he could've been once cool.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Kankurette on May 31, 2021, 09:28:15 AM
He used to be Porky the Poet. I think he’s in the Happy Hour video.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: notjosh on May 31, 2021, 10:08:01 AM
I have this on VHS somewhere, gives an idea of his early act:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaFM22q9zZ8

He finishes with a cover of Billy Bragg's Sexuality but with the lyrics changed to be about Bestiality. Pretty much epitomises early-90s musical comedy.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Jockice on May 31, 2021, 10:10:13 AM
He used to be Porky the Poet. I think he’s in the Happy Hour video.

He was press officer for Go! Discs for a while. Where he was known as Porky. He's also in Billy Bragg's Sexuality video. I met him a couple of times during those days. Lovely bloke, even if I've never really found him funny.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Shameless Custard on May 31, 2021, 10:43:40 AM
That's the thing, Jupitus seems like a good bloke generally. He does great things like search for and buy every single colour variant cover of a Ian Dury and the Blockheads record, just because he's such a fan. But then you see him on Buzzcocks and he quickly turns into a wallybum. It's very confusing

https://recordcollectormag.com/articles/dury-duty
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: sutin on May 31, 2021, 11:21:18 AM
Phill Jupitus still does Porky The Poet sets. He was on the same bill as my girlfriend's band a few years ago, and I also saw him open for The Lovely Eggs. He's good, I like him.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on May 31, 2021, 12:06:48 PM
I remember that as well.

Part of me wondered if I'd imagined it as I've never seen it since. It's possible it wasn't 9/11 but another plane crash, it was a long time ago.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on May 31, 2021, 12:08:17 PM
Fucking hell. Did anyone laugh?

I don't recall any booing. Perhaps he was making an important philosophical point.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: madhair60 on May 31, 2021, 12:54:38 PM
I quite like Jupitus but I'm not sure why. I somewhat enjoyed his book.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: lankyguy95 on May 31, 2021, 01:29:40 PM
He's also in Billy Bragg's Sexuality video.
He also directed that video.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: peteprodge on May 31, 2021, 01:32:08 PM
He also directed that video.

He's also in (https://youtu.be/liNnCKPeEv0?t=165) that (https://youtu.be/liNnCKPeEv0?t=178) video (https://youtu.be/liNnCKPeEv0?t=195).
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: sutin on May 31, 2021, 02:42:24 PM
I quite like Jupitus but I'm not sure why. I somewhat enjoyed his book.

I like him because he's a music nerd and we have a lot of musical interests in common. Plus my mate Helen (of Helen Love fame) is mates with him and seems to think he's a sound bloke.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: BeardFaceMan on May 31, 2021, 02:51:19 PM
I remember him being on QI and they were talking about songs that make people kill themselves and he mentioned Judas Priest and the song Suicide Solution and when asked how he knew that started shouting "well I'm only a DJ" It's only my job!". I wish I was on hand to tell him that that was the song that got Ozzy into trouble, not Judas Priest. The unfunny prick.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 31, 2021, 04:02:29 PM
I remember him being on QI and they were talking about songs that make people kill themselves and he mentioned Judas Priest and the song Suicide Solution and when asked how he knew that started shouting "well I'm only a DJ" It's only my job!". I wish I was on hand to tell him that that was the song that got Ozzy into trouble, not Judas Priest. The unfunny prick.

THANK YOU. My tv got a coating of spittle that night too.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on May 31, 2021, 04:18:29 PM
I like him because he's a music nerd and we have a lot of musical interests in common. Plus my mate Helen (of Helen Love fame) is mates with him and seems to think he's a sound bloke.

You know Helen ( of Helen Love fame) ? I'm impressed!
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: BeardFaceMan on May 31, 2021, 04:45:03 PM
THANK YOU. My tv got a coating of spittle that night too.

I was waiting for the klaxon to go off so Fry could say "and that's why you're only a DJ on 6 Music where no one listens to you" but alas, no.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: DrGreggles on May 31, 2021, 04:57:05 PM
Everything I've heard about Jupitus suggests that he's a good guy.

But...

I've seen him twice live.
Once at Edinburgh, which remains the poorest Fringe show I've seen.
The other was a ISIHAC record where, a cynic may suggest, that he over-laughed at what the other panellists had said in order to give himself more thinking time.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: up_the_hampipe on May 31, 2021, 05:02:51 PM
What do you consider 'PC' to mean?

Pauline Calf to host?!
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 31, 2021, 05:11:45 PM
I was waiting for the klaxon to go off so Fry could say "and that's why you're only a DJ on 6 Music where no one listens to you" but alas, no.

Not to mention Suicide Solution is an ironic play on words regarding alcoholism.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Leej88 on May 31, 2021, 06:01:23 PM
Paul Calf I wish.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: kngen on May 31, 2021, 06:28:59 PM
I remember him being on QI and they were talking about songs that make people kill themselves and he mentioned Judas Priest and the song Suicide Solution and when asked how he knew that started shouting "well I'm only a DJ" It's only my job!". I wish I was on hand to tell him that that was the song that got Ozzy into trouble, not Judas Priest. The unfunny prick.

I'll admit that I'll occasionally get Suicide Solution and Better By You, Better Than Me mixed up because they were both the subjects of lawsuits brought by parents of teenagers who attempted suicide. But I wouldn't go on TV and boast about it
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: holdover on May 31, 2021, 07:06:59 PM
Jupitus occasionally pops up on the 46-30 podcast which is usually just James Yorkston and some whisky bore coming across like the worst pair of music bores in the world. It’s always a relief when Jupitus is on as he calls out the appalling smugness.

Smugness aside, that podcast has introduced me to lots of great music I hadn’t been exposed to previously.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: BeardFaceMan on May 31, 2021, 07:15:05 PM
I'll admit that I'll occasionally get Suicide Solution and Better By You, Better Than Me mixed up because they were both the subjects of lawsuits brought by parents of teenagers who attempted suicide. But I wouldn't go on TV and boast about it

The only reason I know it is because Bill Hicks did a routine about it.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Ham Bap on June 02, 2021, 11:56:41 AM
It’s coming back
https://www.comedy.co.uk/tv/news/6394/never-mind-the-buzzcocks-to-return/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: up_the_hampipe on June 02, 2021, 12:07:10 PM
A bunch of the same faces you see on every other panel show, having friendly banter about music. That's probably all it could be, as the style of what made Buzzcocks popular doesn't really fit in today.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: jobotic on June 02, 2021, 12:55:49 PM
You know Helen ( of Helen Love fame) ? I'm impressed!

So am I!
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Mobbd on June 03, 2021, 10:50:07 AM
The one special of his I vaguely remember seeing included a section where he showed footage of one of the planes hitting the building on 9/11, and using a remote control moved the video back and forth for 2 seconds either side of the impact while intoning: "Alive... dead... alive... dead..."

Exalted humour indeed, but I've never seen it since.

Not 9/11. That DVD came out in 2000 and probably used material worked up through the late '90s.

I don't remember the plane crash bit but I expect the joke was only a bit off-colour and essentially about what it would be like if someone were so callous in real life. More a joke about Jupitus' irreverent persona than the actual mocking of real people's deaths.

I do remember enjoying the show. His stuff about his spider phobia was ticklish and funny and charming.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: kalowski on June 03, 2021, 12:15:27 PM
I remember him being on QI and they were talking about songs that make people kill themselves and he mentioned Judas Priest and the song Suicide Solution and when asked how he knew that started shouting "well I'm only a DJ" It's only my job!". I wish I was on hand to tell him that that was the song that got Ozzy into trouble, not Judas Priest. The unfunny prick.
That really pissed me off too. He said it with such conviction too.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on June 03, 2021, 12:23:37 PM
Not 9/11. That DVD came out in 2000 and probably used material worked up through the late '90s.

I don't remember the plane crash bit but I expect the joke was only a bit off-colour and essentially about what it would be like if someone were so callous in real life. More a joke about Jupitus' irreverent persona than the actual mocking of real people's deaths.

I did say in another post I wasn't sure the plane crash was 9/11, but anyway I was talking about one special I saw, not about that DVD in particular.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Autopsy Turvey on June 03, 2021, 12:32:20 PM
That really pissed me off too. He said it with such conviction too.

Absolutely ditto, I remember thinking, if that sort of assertion is being thrown around uncorrected on QI, how many other things are they getting wrong that I don't know about? Also Richard Osman was once on (I think) QI talking about "Chas Hodge", slightly smugly like 'oh yeah I know Chas & Dave's surnames', again uncorrected. Although I've noticed that every time Stewart Lee addresses a subject that I know something about, he trots out incorrect information without any hint of self-doubt.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: willbo on June 03, 2021, 05:33:03 PM
Absolutely ditto, I remember thinking, if that sort of assertion is being thrown around uncorrected on QI, how many other things are they getting wrong that I don't know about? Also Richard Osman was once on (I think) QI talking about "Chas Hodge", slightly smugly like 'oh yeah I know Chas & Dave's surnames', again uncorrected. Although I've noticed that every time Stewart Lee addresses a subject that I know something about, he trots out incorrect information without any hint of self-doubt.

There was an episode of QI once where the opening subject was inaccuracy in QI and how there would always be some level of inaccuracy because of the variety of quality and age of the sources they use. Fry gave an exact percentage of how inaccurate a series could be, I think.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: lankyguy95 on June 03, 2021, 11:27:50 PM
Remembering the time Frank Skinner was talking about people who have knowledge without understanding, and described it as "The Stephen Fry approach".
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: willbo on June 03, 2021, 11:30:16 PM
But Fry was just on Jordan Peterson's podcast! Why would he appear on a bona fide modern "philosopher's" youtube show if he wasn't a real heavyweight intellectual?
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: up_the_hampipe on June 04, 2021, 01:47:42 AM
Remembering the time Frank Skinner was talking about people who have knowledge without understanding, and described it as "The Stephen Fry approach".

Where did he talk about this?
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: mr. logic on June 04, 2021, 07:05:14 AM
Yeah, he's mentioned him a few times on his podcast. Doesn't seem like the biggest fan.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: notjosh on June 04, 2021, 09:48:29 AM
Absolutely ditto, I remember thinking, if that sort of assertion is being thrown around uncorrected on QI, how many other things are they getting wrong that I don't know about? Also Richard Osman was once on (I think) QI talking about "Chas Hodge", slightly smugly like 'oh yeah I know Chas & Dave's surnames', again uncorrected. Although I've noticed that every time Stewart Lee addresses a subject that I know something about, he trots out incorrect information without any hint of self-doubt.

Yeah, whenever you have reasonably in-depth knowledge of something you become painfully aware how many people are talking absolute shit about it, and it really makes you doubt their wisdom on other subjects. I stopped watching Last Week Tonight after seeing football 'obsessive' John Oliver telling Letterman that there were 19 teams in the Premier League (you don't even need to be a football fan to know that one):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfxApzbsaF0

I've also, on a couple of occasions, been involved in TV things that have gone viral or got press somehow, and when you see the shit that so-called journalists write about it you realise that they most of them don't do even the most cursory research.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: gilbertharding on June 04, 2021, 09:54:32 AM
I especially remember (but not, apparently, word-for-word) Stephen Fry 'correcting' someone who discussed kangaroos as being mammals.

"No - they're marsupials," asserted the massive sweaty bore.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: lankyguy95 on June 04, 2021, 11:30:09 AM
Where did he talk about this?
On his radio show/podcast. Can't remember when.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: kevinq on June 04, 2021, 11:53:38 AM
Limmy's webcam chat on Fry is definitive for me, ten years later: https://youtu.be/qiNeIkJuEoY?t=1645

I think in one of his memoirs he talked about being good at bluffing his weekly essays at Cambridge, but not being good under proper scrutiny during exams.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: An tSaoi on June 04, 2021, 12:10:20 PM
Limmy's webcam chat on Fry is definitive for me, ten years later: https://youtu.be/qiNeIkJuEoY?t=1645

"Fuckin' punch yer nose that direction ya cunt!"

Did an actual spit take.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Largely Babble on June 04, 2021, 12:31:13 PM
I haven't visited this forum for many a year but logged on recently and felt I had to post this..

Simon Amstell on the Buzzcocks reading the final paragraph of Preston's girlfriend's book..
Man, this unclassy act was manufactured to hurt, pure and simple. Think about what he was doing FFS.

The only 'decent' thing Preston could have done, was walk away.
Sit there and take it? Absorb the humiliation ? Seriously?

I was about to post the exact same sentiment then fortunately went back and read the thread.
"Ha! You're right Simon! My wife's ghostwriter really wrote this in a rush. What was I thinking marrying her?"
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: jobotic on June 04, 2021, 12:31:22 PM
John what about him on Mastermind? John?


I like Limmy a lot but I don't know how people watch these things.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: gilbertharding on June 04, 2021, 04:23:25 PM
I was about to post the exact same sentiment then fortunately went back and read the thread.
"Ha! You're right Simon! My wife's ghostwriter really wrote this in a rush. What was I thinking marrying her?"

To be fair, I think most people at the time presumed that they were only married as some kind of publicity stunt (the £300k each from OK Magazine as exhibit A). The entire relationship lasted 18 months from soup to nuts - and that includes him becoming engaged and separating from a completely different woman.

I mean, the Buzzcocks episode might have been a mere example of the pressure they were under as a couple, but fucking hell.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: gilbertharding on June 04, 2021, 04:30:17 PM
John what about him on Mastermind? John?


I like Limmy a lot but I don't know how people watch these things.

Ah - and I don't know how other people are good at 'general knowledge', but a lot of it isn't 'just remembering stuff'. And even if it is, the memory functions by drawing connections between different fragments of knowledge. You often do end up 'working stuff out' from the clues in the questions. Plus, reading lots and lots, and being able to remember it doesn't preclude understanding.

I like Limmy too, but that is just shit.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Largely Babble on June 04, 2021, 04:37:19 PM
To be fair, I think most people at the time presumed that they were only married as some kind of publicity stunt (the £300k each from OK Magazine as exhibit A). The entire relationship lasted 18 months from soup to nuts - and that includes him becoming engaged and separating from a completely different woman.

Fair enough. But even then still I would say that's the only reaction he could've had, even just to keep up the pretence.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: gilbertharding on June 04, 2021, 04:47:53 PM
Fair enough. But even then still I would say that's the only reaction he could've had, even just to keep up the pretence.

You're right.

Also, from the perspective of 2021, where quite a few reality stars have tragically proved themselves to be people too, it could have looked pretty bad.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: mippy on June 04, 2021, 07:56:36 PM
Trying to remember now if Chantelle was on the 'Celebrity' doc on the iPlayer. Kerry Katona came across surprisingly well on it.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: OnlyRegisteredSoICanRead on June 15, 2021, 02:50:25 PM
Talking about disturbing moments on "Buzzcocks"

https://youtu.be/XgbELIo32xM?t=164

Yes, they is Ian Watkins. He doesn't wear a wig though. As far as I know.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: icehaven on June 15, 2021, 03:07:46 PM
Didn't Preston once say something about how great it was that kids at school who'd teased him for being a skinny nerd would see that he'd "married a bimbo." He then tried to explain that by bimbo he just meant the kind of blonde, model type that wouldn't have looked at him when he was a teenager or if he wasn't a semi-famous musician. But still, good to see money and fame weren't his only motivations for the marriage, having a revenge trophy wife was too.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Leej88 on June 15, 2021, 03:09:14 PM
What about his fiance who he dumped so he could get with Chantelle,Bet she was not happy.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: H-O-W-L on June 15, 2021, 03:33:09 PM
mmreeeurm did you know that euermm... god's not real?? mreheuehehuhm... and hugh laurie, my good chum, my chum, my good CHUM, did you know i'm very posh... is... also not real?? mreueghmhuehmehm!!! alan!!! you're [soft voice] delightful!!! klaxon, please!!!
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: Kankurette on June 15, 2021, 03:39:21 PM
H-O-W-L, I am never going to look at Fry now without mentally substituting everything he says for 'mmreuuuurm'. Like when the teacher in Peanuts goes 'wah wah wah wah'.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember a disturbing moment on "Buzzcocks"
Post by: H-O-W-L on June 16, 2021, 12:01:09 AM
H-O-W-L, I am never going to look at Fry now without mentally substituting everything he says for 'mmreuuuurm'. Like when the teacher in Peanuts goes 'wah wah wah wah'.

When you notice that he does it you can't get it out of your head, right?