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Title: is garth marenghi's darkplace completely laugh-free?
Post by: madhair60 on June 06, 2021, 04:09:40 PM
yes ✔
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Post by: PlanktonSideburns on June 06, 2021, 04:11:30 PM
Only found the little intros at the start funny, but appreciated the loving pastiche back when that was enough
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Post by: Glebe on June 06, 2021, 04:15:15 PM
It's hilarious from the start. "Just leave!"
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Post by: McChesney Duntz on June 06, 2021, 04:17:21 PM
The "King Lear" quote at the top of ep. 1, cited by page number, made me laugh heartily just for starters. So right there, the answer is no.
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Post by: Greg Torso on June 06, 2021, 04:18:42 PM
No, it's funny.

I enjoy taking the piss out of Shaun Hutson/Richard Layman/James Herbert so that probably helps.

Plus the attention to bad editing/effects is amazing.
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Post by: McChesney Duntz on June 06, 2021, 04:22:42 PM
Among other things[1], it contains one of the best lines of the 21st century thus far: "She was like a candle in the wind. Unreliable."
 1. (and there's a lot of them - this may be the only show I've ever seen where every single aspect of it - the lines, the delivery, the camerawork, the ADR, etc. etc. etc. - is a joke of one sort or another)
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Post by: neveragain on June 06, 2021, 04:28:48 PM
I wouldn't say laugh-free. Some people go crazy for it[1] and good on them but I would just cite it as a decent comedy with plenty of laughs. The follow-up Man To Man With Dean Learner, now that really was bad.
 1. Personally I can only take a couple of episodes at a time, and find the parody aspects a bit hit and miss
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 06, 2021, 04:42:05 PM
The "King Lear" quote at the top of ep. 1, cited by page number, made me laugh heartily just for starters. So right there, the answer is no.
that was an early peak imo. One of those good references that seems specific but actually is pretty universal for anyone whos been to school in the UK. Downhill after that, but not terrible. Parody that misses the mark by being too broad imo
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Post by: Famous Mortimer on June 06, 2021, 04:57:54 PM
It's great, remarkably high hit-rate. Considering what a waste of time Man To Man With Dean Learner was, lightning in a bottle, etc.
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Post by: Leej88 on June 06, 2021, 05:01:57 PM
I love it especially the way it is played seriously with bad effects and cheap sets.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 06, 2021, 05:09:17 PM
no it's great you onion
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Post by: Lemming on June 06, 2021, 05:11:44 PM
DAMN thing's.... come ALIVE in my HAND
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Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on June 06, 2021, 05:19:05 PM
It's fucking great! Only crap one was scotch mist
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Post by: Leej88 on June 06, 2021, 05:21:42 PM
That fateful night for Rick for Aberdeen
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Post by: Rizla on June 06, 2021, 05:41:40 PM
Haven't watched it for a few years but I loved it when I first caught it on telly - I thought I'd dreamed Shaun Hutson on the James Whale radio show plugging his film Slugs but it must have really happened. Bought the DVD. Lots of laughs, the padre and his "if you need me, i'll be out in the jeep", one track lover, all good stuff.
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Post by: thr0b on June 06, 2021, 06:26:22 PM
Even the in-character DVD commentary is great.

“What the FUCK? She looks like a thalidomider”
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Post by: Bazooka on June 06, 2021, 06:33:41 PM
It's fucking great! Only crap one was scotch mist

Nah Rick's haunting tale of Scotland is brilliant.

The show is very good, mad to think it was back in 2004.  It's not as funny as it was then to me, but that's because I rinsed it all those years ago.  Dark Place Illuminatum is as good as the whole series, and probably some of the best DVD extras I've ever seen.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YsZlA6Qeseo
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Post by: Catalogue Trousers on June 06, 2021, 07:36:44 PM
It's marvellous and the OP is wrong.
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Post by: lazyhour on June 06, 2021, 07:39:30 PM
“What the FUCK? She looks like a thalidomider”

:-/ doesn't sound that funny tbh
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Post by: ASFTSN on June 06, 2021, 08:02:30 PM
It's brilliant and I enjoy how stupid it is. Helps if you're a horror fan, if you're not may as well not bother with it.
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Post by: madhair60 on June 06, 2021, 08:18:33 PM
:-/ doesn't sound that funny tbh

yeah, seems like it's funny to that sort of person
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Post by: studpuppet on June 06, 2021, 08:30:41 PM
yeah, seems like it's funny to that sort of person

I was one of the people that signed the petition that got its DVD release to happen, so I'm taking this as a personal slight.
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Post by: madhair60 on June 06, 2021, 08:31:28 PM
bring it on, i can beat any of you in a fight
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Post by: Joe Oakes on June 06, 2021, 08:32:27 PM
It’s still great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgK2CEdvd_E

(sorry, I still haven’t bothered to learn how to tag YouTube clips, but we all have room for growth)
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Post by: purlieu on June 06, 2021, 09:11:55 PM
It's funny[1], when I joined here I remember how utterly detested this programme was.
 1. the next clause is funny, not the show. I haven't seen the show in years and can't remember if it's funny or not. This footnote is now longer than the actual post.
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Post by: sevendaughters on June 06, 2021, 09:13:36 PM
It's brilliant and I enjoy how stupid it is. Helps if you're a horror fan, if you're not may as well not bother with it.

i don't like horror much but i love this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Shoulders?-Stomach! on June 06, 2021, 09:25:21 PM
I like it a lot. There are missteps and perhaps it doesn't fully last the course for a 6 episode series but there are loads of laughs throughout accompanied a lovely feeling of everyone having fun being stupid.

The forum was divided at the time, I remember lots of people loudly detesting it but a similar number saying they liked it but without trying to trample everyone into the soil.

It also seems like it sneaked into a small window in time when making that sort of show on mainstream tv was possible. Anyway, that is my egg in soup on the matter.



Addendum: The forum should be warned: The opener poster doesn't think Airplane is funny. And he fucks dogs - purely so that the dogs cum - he makes special care to ensure he doesn't.
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Post by: Blumf on June 06, 2021, 09:37:09 PM
Didn't get on Darkplace at all, but I do like A Gun for George

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq0xt_gbVH0
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Post by: bomb_dog on June 06, 2021, 09:53:39 PM
Saw the Darkplace show live and thought it was great. The tv series wasn’t a patch on it, but it’s fun in one episode bursts.

Edit: probably wasn’t called ‘Darkplace’ at the time but Garth Marengi was the lead character. Can’t remember now.
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Post by: Alberon on June 06, 2021, 09:54:17 PM
I only got to watch Darkplace for the first time a few months back. It can’t sustain itself for the whole six episodes but there is some good stuff in there and it is very well done.
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Post by: madhair60 on June 06, 2021, 10:09:30 PM
Addendum: The forum should be warned: The opener poster doesn't think Airplane is funny. And he fucks dogs - purely so that the dogs cum - he makes special care to ensure he doesn't.

cumbled!!
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Post by: Famous Mortimer on June 06, 2021, 10:16:00 PM
Saw the Darkplace show live and thought it was great. The tv series wasn’t a patch on it, but it’s fun in one episode bursts.

Edit: probably wasn’t called ‘Darkplace’ at the time but Garth Marengi was the lead character. Can’t remember now.
"Fright Night" or "Netherhead", probably. Wish I'd seen them (or they'd been filmed).
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Post by: Joe Oakes on June 06, 2021, 10:26:10 PM
"Fright Night" or "Netherhead", probably. Wish I'd seen them (or they'd been filmed).

A portion of one of these was performed on TV as part of a BBC Edinburgh showcase thing.
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Post by: Jittlebags on June 06, 2021, 10:49:54 PM
Yes, I think Alice Lowe talked a bit about this on RHLSTP.
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on June 07, 2021, 12:53:08 AM
It’s brilliant.

Thinking there are literally zero laughs is a baffling opinion.
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Post by: non capisco on June 07, 2021, 01:00:49 AM
"If that's how he treats his friends imagine how he treats his enemies, worse I expect!"

Been meaning to give this another go since listening to the Rule Of Three episode about it. I don't think I saw the entirety of it when it went out, in those days you'd get thrown in jail tutted at on here if you said you liked something that was made after 1992. Was this the first thing Matt Berry did his familiar thespian bellow in?
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on June 07, 2021, 01:02:48 AM
"If that's how he treats his friends imagine how he treats his enemies, worse I expect!"

Been meaning to give this another go since listening to the Rule Of Three episode about it. I don't think I saw the entirety of it when it went out. Was this the first thing Matt Berry did his familiar thespian bellow in?

Yeah, he was filming it while still working in London Dungeons (and expecting it to go nowhere) apparently.

He did a Q&A at a live screening I was at (with QDRPHNC formerly of this parish actually) and it came up.
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Post by: zomgmouse on June 07, 2021, 01:48:24 AM
no it's great you giant eyeball
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Post by: amateur on June 07, 2021, 08:42:04 AM
I know writers who use subtext and they're all cowards.
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Post by: Swoz_MK on June 07, 2021, 09:10:06 AM
The follow-up Man To Man With Dean Learner, now that really was bad.

It has its moments, Glynn Nimron & Randolph Caer especially. Holness is great in those episodes. Always nice to have a bit more Garth as well.
Ayoade is pretty crap throughout.

More praise for the Darkplace commentary from me. Matt Berry creating a skincare range for people of colour called "Ethnic Cleansing" and the subsequent corpsing is a highlight, and mention of Lexington Steele is always welcome.
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Post by: zomgmouse on June 07, 2021, 10:10:50 AM
Yeah wasn't the hugest fan of Man to Man but it did give us Steve Pising (pronounced "pissing").
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Post by: DrGreggles on June 07, 2021, 10:13:22 AM
My only recollection of MTMWDL is that Holness is a bloody good guitarist.
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Post by: Greg Torso on June 07, 2021, 11:01:43 AM
Well I hope madhair has learned his lesson and is willing to admit how wrong he is.
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Post by: petrilTanaka on June 07, 2021, 11:30:03 AM
Yeah wasn't the hugest fan of Man to Man but it did give us Steve Pising (pronounced "pissing").

was worth it just to find out how they'd get "on with the Pising story" in

the pretentious old Ess Eff Actor type was good fun as well
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Post by: Lost Oliver on June 07, 2021, 11:34:15 AM
It's brilliant.

"I had a cat once. I dropped a sofa on it. It was a write-off, so I stood on its head."
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on June 07, 2021, 11:50:03 AM
Speculating on a what happened to their co-star who is mysteriously absent from the to-camera pieces and never discussed other then in passing terms

Interviewer: You think she’s in Eastern Europe?

Dean: No, I think she’s buried in Eastern Europe. [pause] If she got a burial.

The in-character episode commentaries go further and heavily imply Lerner has something to do with her disappearance, but the writers and actors left a lot unsaid and trusted the audience to fill in any blanks themselves.
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Post by: The Mollusk on June 07, 2021, 11:52:29 AM
Ayoade is pretty crap throughout.

What? But he’s normally brilliant!!!

It is amusing that his best performance is in a show where he’s supposed to be doing a shit job of acting.
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on June 07, 2021, 11:58:38 AM
I love all his self-congratulatory luvvy stuff.

“I’ve never acted since. Some would I didn’t act during! ...but those would be unkind people, I did my best...”

And also his intro scene about “not putting on an act, but putting on the truth” with the hard cut to his terrible opening line.
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Post by: Bad Ambassador on June 07, 2021, 12:02:10 PM
Contains one of my all-time favourite comedy lines:

"When my wife died, I was so upset I could barely finish my lunch."
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Post by: Mr Banlon on June 07, 2021, 12:05:06 PM
"I realized that man needs to keep in touch with his primal urges, whether through sport or through violent movies. But a man must not let his beast be his master. Otherwise you're no better than Bill Wyman."
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Post by: ASFTSN on June 07, 2021, 12:05:19 PM
Italian seasoning? Too vague.
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Post by: Bazooka on June 07, 2021, 12:43:06 PM
Well I hope madhair has learned his lesson and is willing to admit how wrong he is.

Nah he needs stopping dead, he just said Mario 64 is not good in the nerd forum.
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Post by: The Mollusk on June 07, 2021, 12:51:57 PM
Marenghi’s pathetic attempts at self-aggrandising or appearing sexy or cool are so good:

“I felt muscular and compact, like corned beef.”

“I didn’t even have time for a shower, just a quick rinse round the key areas.”

“I’m one of the few authors who’s written more books than he’s read.” - This one is ridiculously Gervaisian.
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Post by: The Mollusk on June 07, 2021, 01:01:07 PM
I joined the forum at the time when this was on the telly and I recall among the criticisms there was a lot of flack aimed at it not being a valid parody because it was mocking a specific type of thing which didn’t exist to begin with. I remember finding that criticism really bizarre. The show has the imagination to create something very similar to existing tropes whilst being niche enough to be convincingly ludicrous, much in the same way a lot of genuinely awful horror/sci-fi stuff tries its best to be bold and original but fails to convince anyone of its credibility because it’s so poorly put together. That stuff very much does exist and Holness nailed the nerdy self-importance of its creators perfectly. I can concur with others here that the episode quality dips in the second half of the series but overall the vision and the effort put in to create this fake show and the little “real” world that surrounds it is brilliant and a joy to get immersed in.
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Post by: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on June 07, 2021, 01:01:58 PM
Nah he needs stopping dead, he just said Mario 64 is not good in the nerd forum.
It's just madhair being madhair (i.e. wrong).

I was a potheaded media studies pillock when Darkplace was first broadcast, so it was almost custom designed to appeal to me. I gave it a rewatch some years later, half expecting it to be a huge disappointment, but it stood up well. That was a fair whole ago though, so perhaps I'll give it another viewing.

I remember two of the episodes having very similar plots (Scotch Mist and the broccoli one, I think) and I was never sure whether that meant Marenghi was short of ideas, or Holness was.
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on June 07, 2021, 01:20:37 PM
Marenghi - he explicitly mentions the broccoli one is “similar to last week’s” in the opening monologue then glosses over it.

Not to toot on about it too much, but I love the layers of gags in there. Whenever someone walks left out of shot the sound engineering has the footsteps pan right. How many people will catch that joke? Or the celebration in the hospital bar (ha!) where Dean is (inexplicably) the barman - Dag & Rick order drinks and Dean just pulls them fully-made from under the bar. Nice bit of silly physical jokey stuff.

...which is later shown in the in-fiction “making-of” documentary with Lerner screaming at prop guys “just get the drinks ready and put them under there, no time to mess about!” (paraphrasing) so the silly gag from the actual episode is a result of Dean’s directorial incompetence which he still doesn’t think is incompetent.

That plus Dean’s incredulity at being told that yes, usually TV networks ask people to make TV shows for broadcast rather than the other way round (“well this is news to me, sweetheart!”).

There’s a lot to love about it, and it makes up for times where it is a bit shonky.
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Post by: GoblinAhFuckScary on June 07, 2021, 01:23:24 PM
"you and him were... buddies"
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Post by: druss on June 07, 2021, 01:32:10 PM
Haven't seen it for years, liked it at the time. This thread has made me want to give it another go, I will report back as to whether I laugh.
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Post by: Mr Trumpet on June 07, 2021, 02:10:46 PM
"Ahmed very sadly died... shot in his own apartment."

Can't remember whether that was from the show itself or one of the brilliant DVD extras.
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Post by: madhair60 on June 07, 2021, 03:45:33 PM
It's just madhair being madhair (i.e. wrong).

aw what come on
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Post by: GoblinAhFuckScary on June 07, 2021, 03:52:08 PM
I joined the forum at the time when this was on the telly and I recall among the criticisms there was a lot of flack aimed at it not being a valid parody because it was mocking a specific type of thing which didn’t exist to begin with.

really surprised to hear people thought that. i've always been particularly fond of its homage to von trier's the kingdom particularly with the rooftop scenes at the end of each episode

DANSK JAVLAR
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Post by: sevendaughters on June 07, 2021, 03:55:31 PM
I didn't like it at first actually but I didn't come on here and make an arse of myself by telling ev...SHIT!
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Post by: letsgobrian on June 07, 2021, 04:12:56 PM
really surprised to hear people thought that. i've always been particularly fond of its homage to von trier's the kingdom particularly with the rooftop scenes at the end of each episode

DANSK JAVLAR

That Stephen King's remake of The Kingdom started the same week that Darkplace ended was the icing on the cake.
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Post by: chveik on June 07, 2021, 04:15:45 PM
i couldn't watch the whole thing but yes it is very likely
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Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on June 07, 2021, 05:34:30 PM
Contains one of my all-time favourite comedy lines:

"When my wife died, I was so upset I could barely finish my lunch."

Hahah yes! God I need to watch this again.

friend of mine still texts "eye child?!" to me out of the blue now and then.
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Post by: MoreauVasz on June 07, 2021, 06:42:48 PM
I don't find it that funny but I respect the amount of thought that went into it.

Was the pushback on here not SOTCAA-based? They did seem to have a bit of a bee in their bonnets about a lot of the people in the show.

Regarding the idea that it was a parody of something that didn't exist, I choose to read it as taking place in a universe where the absolute belters of the 1980s UK paperback horror scene achieved a level of mainstream respectability and success. What if Brian Lumley or Frank Herbert had wound up occupying a similar space to Dennis Potter?
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Post by: madhair60 on June 07, 2021, 07:07:34 PM
friend of mine still texts "eye child?!" to me out of the blue now and then.

mad lad
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Post by: Lost Oliver on June 07, 2021, 07:30:20 PM
Embrace the infinite.
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Post by: Leej88 on June 07, 2021, 07:33:30 PM
The broccoli had gone. But the hurt remained.
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Post by: druss on June 07, 2021, 11:07:38 PM
Haven't seen it for years, liked it at the time. This thread has made me want to give it another go, I will report back as to whether I laugh.
I didn't laugh but I forgot I suffer from crippling depression.

I did laugh at a documentary I watched later though where some bloke was shot in the head and then chased the guy who shot him in the head away and a cop being interviewed said "If I had just shot someone in the head and they started chasing me, I would also run away".
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Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on June 08, 2021, 02:00:56 PM
mad lad

Oh shush, gets a smile out of me
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Post by: Jumblegraws on June 08, 2021, 02:13:49 PM
Watching the DVD with the in-character (which is to say, Garth, Dean and Todd) commentary track is comfort viewing for me. The recurring argument about the acting pedigree of Julian Barratt’s character (referred to throughout as “Fred Barren”) is one of my all-time favourite running gags and it’s not even in the show proper.
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Post by: ASFTSN on June 08, 2021, 02:25:19 PM
Thanks for making this Darkplace appreciation thread madhair it's reminded me of the very many laughs I have enjoyed while watching this excellent comedy programme and has inspired me to undertake many more happy rewatchings. This is why I joined CaB
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on June 08, 2021, 02:45:58 PM
Yeah my old pal madhair played a blinder! Got everyone talking about this wonderful old show.

Here’s a photo from the live screening I went to a few years back in one of the nice old cinemas they have these days.

(https://i.imgur.com/SiSnrxB.jpg)

Lovely stuff.
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Post by: GoblinAhFuckScary on June 08, 2021, 03:23:31 PM
Yeah my old pal madhair played a blinder! Got everyone talking about this wonderful old show.

Here’s a photo from the live screening I went to a few years back in one of the nice old cinemas they have these days.

(https://i.imgur.com/SiSnrxB.jpg)

Lovely stuff.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ehnk0-xU8AAeJ-p.jpg)
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on June 08, 2021, 04:22:12 PM
Matt Berry did a surprise Q&A at the beginning. It were good.

I smoked some drugs during the interview and explained to Mark Proksch that I didn’t know who he was.

Ok cheers.
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Post by: thenoise on June 08, 2021, 04:46:54 PM
It's a wonderful, wonderful series.
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Post by: jobotic on June 08, 2021, 04:57:32 PM
I didn't watch it at the time but did a few years ago and I loved it. And as said above, A Gun for George is fantastic.

(https://web.archive.org/web/20150522175920im_/http://thereprisalizer.com/The_Reprisalizer/The_Reprisalizer_files/The_Reprisaliser_R_ALongAvenger.png)

Just read that Holness was born in Whitstable and met Peter Cushing there. I worked in a corner shop there when I was fifteen - was a bit of a trek but my stepdad's mate owned it so the pay was decent. Cushing came in one day to pay his delivery bills and he was lovely.

And that's my anecdote.
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Post by: TommyTurnips on June 08, 2021, 08:34:12 PM
If you don't feel any mirth when watching "Skipper the Eye Child" then I question whether you have a soul.
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Post by: PlanktonSideburns on June 08, 2021, 08:43:28 PM
What do people think of Italian spiderman in comparison to this? That made me laugh loads
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Post by: kidsick5000 on June 08, 2021, 09:30:52 PM
What do people think of Italian spiderman in comparison to this? That made me laugh loads

Italian Spider-Man is very well observed but does struggle after a while.
Danger 5 is closer to Dark Place, but lost it a bit when they went 80s.

Darkplace is like the Velvet Underground. Small audience at the time but the influence has kept spreading.
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Post by: The Mollusk on June 08, 2021, 10:49:31 PM
I fucking absolutely loved Danger 5. The second season was still very decent I thought, but the first was damn near perfect. It’s criminally overlooked.
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Post by: kidsick5000 on June 09, 2021, 12:07:57 AM
I fucking absolutely loved Danger 5. The second season was still very decent I thought, but the first was damn near perfect. It’s criminally overlooked.

They could have gone longer with the original ATV /WW2 version.
The 80s was a cul de sac. It’s hard to parody something post 80s era. You could try the 90s, but I don’t think the differences are that distinct. Touch Of Cloth parodied police dramas in 2012, but the styles it parodied had been in place since the 90s.

The tone of humour also changed which was one of the great things about the first series. It lost that daft  innocence and wanted to have its cocaine on strippers.


I’m guessing there’s contracts involved, but Dinosaur should put the eps up on YouTube themselves - much like Taskmaster has done. May as well get something of a payday that way.
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Post by: jobotic on June 09, 2021, 12:22:27 AM
Just watched the first two Man to Mans. I love 'em, particularly the Steve Pising one (which I have seen before). I said the fuck you don't do wet wipes.
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Post by: dirkgonnadirk on June 09, 2021, 02:54:39 AM
I remember enjoying this as a kid, but years later the only lines I can remember are 'Bon AppeTIT', and the bit about antiperspirant giving you cancer.
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Post by: The Mollusk on June 09, 2021, 06:47:10 AM
They could have gone longer with the original ATV /WW2 version.
The 80s was a cul de sac. It’s hard to parody something post 80s era. You could try the 90s, but I don’t think the differences are that distinct. Touch Of Cloth parodied police dramas in 2012, but the styles it parodied had been in place since the 90s.

The tone of humour also changed which was one of the great things about the first series. It lost that daft  innocence and wanted to have its cocaine on strippers.


I’m guessing there’s contracts involved, but Dinosaur should put the eps up on YouTube themselves - much like Taskmaster has done. May as well get something of a payday that way.

Just having a little ponder on the toilet and I think they could’ve done a good job of parodying Power Rangers if they did a ‘90s one.
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Post by: ASFTSN on June 09, 2021, 08:52:22 AM
All I can remember from Man To Man was some terrible CGI dogfight with...wasps? Or something. I should rewatch them.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on June 09, 2021, 09:19:50 AM
They could have gone longer with the original ATV /WW2 version.
The 80s was a cul de sac. It’s hard to parody something post 80s era. You could try the 90s, but I don’t think the differences are that distinct. Touch Of Cloth parodied police dramas in 2012, but the styles it parodied had been in place since the 90s.

The tone of humour also changed which was one of the great things about the first series. It lost that daft  innocence and wanted to have its cocaine on strippers.


I’m guessing there’s contracts involved, but Dinosaur should put the eps up on YouTube themselves - much like Taskmaster has done. May as well get something of a payday that way.

Danger 5 did come back in podcast form last year - https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/Danger-5-Stereo-Adventures-Audiobook/B087C5WF5G - I listened and enjoyed one episode, but then forgot about the rest of it until now.
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Post by: Hillbert on June 09, 2021, 02:09:52 PM
Just having a little ponder on the toilet and I think they could’ve done a good job of parodying Power Rangers if they did a ‘90s one.

It's not really a parody, but Psycho Goreman has a very strong Power Rangers feel. If they'd also been allowed to show heads exploding.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on June 10, 2021, 05:58:47 PM
The live show was very funny, it was a laugh within the context of a silly student Edinburgh hour, but the joke exhausted itself on TV.

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Post by: Famous Mortimer on June 10, 2021, 06:47:13 PM
The live show was very funny, it was a laugh within the context of a silly student Edinburgh hour, but the joke exhausted itself on TV.
I thought there were lots of jokes, and disagree.
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Post by: Barry Admin on June 10, 2021, 06:53:37 PM
I fucking hated it but never had time for the likes of Matt Berry anyway.

Tbh I also recall that I'd just recently bought the Acorn Antiques video from a charity shop, and it was so insanely fucking hilarious and inspired that I just saw Darkplace as derivative and bland. I guess I would also have been a bit irked that this was seen as some kind of brilliant, cutting edge humour, whereas a lot of comedy fans were really snotty and dismissive of anything  Victoria Wood was involved with. Just didn't seem fair.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on June 10, 2021, 07:16:39 PM
I thought there were lots of jokes, and disagree.

Fair enough. There were lots of jokes, but they were all sub-Partridge/Iannucci jokes.

As I say, it was a fun show to watch when you were half-pissed at the Fringe, but the TV show wore out its welcome within about five minutes.
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Post by: Ron Superior on June 12, 2021, 09:27:57 PM
About once I week the reading of the sex scene pops in to my head.

"They did all the positions: her on top, doggy and normal."
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 12, 2021, 09:38:53 PM
Love Dark Place and thought it was brilliant
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Post by: The Giggling Bean on June 13, 2021, 09:44:21 AM
It's not really a parody, but Psycho Goreman has a very strong Power Rangers feel. If they'd also been allowed to show heads exploding.

That is currently one of my favourite films and I've just ordered the blu ray from Canada. So many lines that keep randomly popping into my head and making me laugh.
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Post by: Cold Meat Platter on June 13, 2021, 11:23:50 AM
That is currently one of my favourite films and I've just ordered the blu ray from Canada. So many lines that keep randomly popping into my head and making me laugh.

"I do not care for hunky boys... or do I?"
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Post by: madhair60 on June 14, 2021, 11:19:55 AM
I also enjoyed Psycho Goreman.

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Just want to say that I am genuinely delighted that this has spawned such a prosperous thread. I mean that.
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Post by: wrec on June 14, 2021, 11:44:22 AM
I've stood in Dean's front room and watched him make a lot of love. Let's just say that.
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Post by: ASFTSN on June 14, 2021, 01:07:53 PM
Apart from the moment when Garth sees an apeloid micturating (which means urinating) on his erstwhile colleague - which is a direct Rawhead Rex reference - are there any other straight up homages to particular horror scenes or set pieces in Darkplace?
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Post by: Jumblegraws on June 14, 2021, 01:34:07 PM
Apart from the moment when Garth sees an apeloid micturating (which means urinating) on his erstwhile colleague - which is a direct Rawhead Rex reference - are there any other straight up homages to particular horror scenes or set pieces in Darkplace?
I couldn’t help thinking of Troll 2 when the lady starts turning into broccoli in “The Creeping Moss from the Shores of Shuggoth”, but I think any similarity is probably just coincidence.
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Post by: Antiseptic Poetry on June 14, 2021, 05:20:01 PM
The first two episodes are brilliant, then the joke wears out and the following four are shite.
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Post by: ProvanFan on June 14, 2021, 05:37:06 PM
What if you caught the first one from five minutes in? Would the brilliance then last five minutes into episode three?
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Post by: Zetetic on June 14, 2021, 06:51:58 PM
Tbh I also recall that I'd just recently bought the Acorn Antiques video from a charity shop, and it was so insanely fucking hilarious and inspired that I just saw Darkplace as derivative and bland. I guess I would also have been a bit irked that this was seen as some kind of brilliant, cutting edge humour, whereas a lot of comedy fans were really snotty and dismissive of anything  Victoria Wood was involved with. Just didn't seem fair.
As someone who has greatly enjoyed both, in the right doses, I'm grateful for this link which I'd never thought of before.

Does the contrast of Acorn Antiques apparently being very clearly inspired by Crossroads and Darkplace being a kind of parody of something that might not have ever actually existed throw both into sharper relief?

I've no idea, since I've no idea what Crossroads was, really, so it's all much of muchness.
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Post by: Psybro on June 14, 2021, 07:12:48 PM
The first two episodes are brilliant, then the joke wears out and the following four are shite.

I did find the first two episodes started hilarious and then got progressively funnier by the minute, and the last four just had a few wry smiles per episode. I always put it down to watching the first two in a room full of stoned students and the rest on YouTube on mine Larry.
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Post by: Barry Admin on June 14, 2021, 07:13:16 PM
Does the contrast of Acorn Antiques apparently being very clearly inspired by Crossroads and Darkplace being a kind of parody of something that might not have ever actually existed throw both into sharper relief?

I've no idea, since I've no idea what Crossroads was, really, so it's all much of muchness.

Yeah, I dunno. I wouldn't be as precious these days, and it's hard to remember clearly and put some of this in historical context.

For instance, I know Darkplace was big around the time of a weird "monkey (or just animal) whimsy" trend that really bugged me, so people larking about on BMX's in Darkplace just irritated me. British comedy at that time felt very slight, and immersed in pissy, studenty references that would get an easy laugh out of people. Just that whole Boosh-y awfulness where people would talk about ninjas and stuff.

I'd be intrigued to revisit Darkplace - I think I'll definitely be watching the Acorn Antiques video, as I found the whole thing on YouTube. Just the richness and variety of approaches there is astonishing, given it also includes Susie Blake's continuity announcer, and the insanely good documentary at the end.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UPsAchIqNQ4
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Post by: Ant Farm Keyboard on June 14, 2021, 10:59:45 PM
Every time some writer or director gets the tortured artist syndrome, Darkplace gets funnier.
When I watched Zack Snyder's Justice League, whenever there was a shot in slow-motion, I would think about Darkplace.
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Post by: The Mollusk on June 14, 2021, 11:53:05 PM
Barry Amblin it’s just “Darkplace” all one word like that. I dunno if you’re new here or what but we take this stuff pretty seriously, just watch your step in future.
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Post by: Barry Admin on June 15, 2021, 12:11:11 AM
😅 fixed, thanks.
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Post by: The Mollusk on June 15, 2021, 07:25:40 AM
STRIKE ONE!
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Post by: studpuppet on June 15, 2021, 09:14:03 AM
...so people larking about on BMX's in Darkplace just irritated me.

STRIKE TWO! (https://youtu.be/q5yoXwpXdC8?t=98)

Where do these newbies get dredged up from, FFS...
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Post by: Barry Admin on June 15, 2021, 11:17:19 AM
STRIKE TWO! (https://youtu.be/q5yoXwpXdC8?t=98)

It's so fucking wacky, Jesus wept, I hoped I'd mellowed towards it.

Noel Fielding and Richard Ayaode are dire, they can't act; you have to be able to act well in order to act badly in a convincing way.

Noel Fielding dressed as some kind of a monkey? See what I meant above! I haven't seen that clip since it was broadcast and had no idea about that, but there was just so much boring animal whimsy bollocks, and student-pleasing monkey references back then. I made a big thread raging about all the monkey stuff specifically when "Monkey Trousers" came out 😂

All I wanted was some good satire, or comedy with some kind of point and inspiration to it, and instead you got shit like Darkplace and Dare To Believe.

Thanks for the clip, I hate it.
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Post by: willbo on June 15, 2021, 11:29:18 AM
I never really got big into Darkplace - I find the constant "OTT 80s TV tone" just too tiring to be honest - but I actually enjoyed the Dean Learner chat show a lot more, and thought it made a really good "Supermarket brand Alan Partridge/KMKY". I wouldn't re-watch Darkplace but I do want to dig out my "man to man with DL" dvd again.

I never really stopped to think if Darkplace was a spoof of some specific show, to me it's just all 70s/80s TV, Quincy, A-Team, Kojak, US hospital soaps, all crammed into one horror show.
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Post by: Mr Trumpet on June 15, 2021, 02:05:00 PM
Great music in that chase scene, and I always thought those woods looked appealing
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Post by: sevendaughters on June 15, 2021, 02:05:57 PM
Great music in that chase scene, and I always thought those woods looked appealing

guessing it's the New Forest? I've never been but that's what I imagine.
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Post by: sevendaughters on June 15, 2021, 02:12:32 PM
I sort of see what Barry Admin is saying with that clip looking studenty - I hated all that sort indie revival era comedy that was just broad caricatures and wackiness and different dilutions of Noel Fielding and Noel Fielding adjacency (Bruiser [edit: I meant Blunder] and Campus being the dirt worst) - but there's far more going on in Marenghi. If anything that is an unrepresentative clip elevated beyond its status.
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Post by: Captain Z on June 15, 2021, 02:18:15 PM
I've been catching the odd episode of Travel Man recently, and it strikes me that Richard Ayoade seems to act more comfortably portraying Dean Learner than he does portraying Richard Ayoade.
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Post by: phantom_power on June 15, 2021, 03:05:14 PM
"Richard Ayoade" that you see on screen is just as much a creation as Dean Lerner I think
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Post by: The Mollusk on June 15, 2021, 03:09:16 PM
In mild defence of the above chase scene clip, it does suffer a little as one of those things which doesn’t really work out of context, since it is deliberately overlong it does look quite crap. It’s also not really representative of the show as a whole at all. The murky indoor artificial sets and sound design are a huge part of what make it so good.
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Post by: Magnum Valentino on June 15, 2021, 03:16:24 PM
It helps liking the aesthetic side of the show on its own merits, too. I love the way it looks and, in particular, sounds. The shit foley and the music (which is not shit) are extremely comforting to me.
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Post by: Mr Banlon on June 15, 2021, 03:16:54 PM
guessing it's the New Forest? I've never been but that's what I imagine.
Black Park in Bucks by the look of it.
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Post by: Jumblegraws on June 15, 2021, 03:21:30 PM
guessing it's the New Forest? I've never been but that's what I imagine.
Garth says it’s Epping Forest in the DVD commentary (to which Todd replies “Epping rubbish, more like”)
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Post by: ASFTSN on June 15, 2021, 03:49:59 PM
Apart from animal whimsy and LOLrandom stuff, I've never really understood what people mean when they say humour is studenty. I've heard it levelled at everything from The Mighty Boosh to Withnail and I.
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Post by: Nowhere Man on June 15, 2021, 04:14:23 PM
When I think student-y the first thing I think of is The Young Ones and all that sort of stuff. I mean, even much of Peter Cook's stuff is very student-y. I get where old admin chops is coming from, but I find it hard to see why it's the big problem. It might be more on me for being about 10 in 2004 though, so I loved The Mighty Boosh and all that, and even as someone who likes that stuff in small doses can admit it's a bit too mimsy whimsy sometimes. A lot of stuff from that period like The IT Crowd is very wanky.

Garth Marenghi's is fab though, just for the Matt Berry experience at it's peak.
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Post by: Barry Admin on June 15, 2021, 04:31:14 PM
Apart from animal whimsy and LOLrandom stuff, I've never really understood what people mean when they say humour is studenty. I've heard it levelled at everything from The Mighty Boosh to Withnail and I.

Yeah, your post is interesting, would make for a good new thread.

I'll give some thought to it, but my immediate reaction is there are at least two types of student comedy:

1) stuff students watch, like Withnail.

2) stuff that's tailored to students, like the Boosh.

And the latter would generally, I think, have a lot of lazy references that people would enjoy just out of recognition. Kind of low fruit, pandering shit.

I dunno.

(Peter Cook studenty? Whaaat?)
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 15, 2021, 04:40:11 PM
In mild defence of the above chase scene clip, it does suffer a little as one of those things which doesn’t really work out of context, since it is deliberately overlong it does look quite crap. It’s also not really representative of the show as a whole at all. The murky indoor artificial sets and sound design are a huge part of what make it so good.

Even in that bike scene I can see past the whimsy and appreciate the 'sped up film' look, a couple of bad jump-edits, inconsistent film stock/lighting between cuts, the bit where they're weaving through the trees and one of them breaks from the choreographed pattern, and the sound of a car squealing on tarmac when he does a skid.
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Post by: coolguy? on June 15, 2021, 05:11:54 PM
“You and he were buddies weren’t you” need I say more
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Post by: Cuellar on June 15, 2021, 09:10:22 PM
I liked the Man To Man episode with the folk singer, it was good.
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Post by: Bazooka on June 15, 2021, 09:42:13 PM
One Problem with Man to Man is; Richard Ayoede didn't play Dean Learner like he did in Darkplace, he was much shiftier in DP.
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Post by: gilbertharding on June 15, 2021, 10:32:52 PM
“You and he were buddies weren’t you” need I say more

"Are you alright?"
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Post by: The Mollusk on June 15, 2021, 11:11:47 PM
Garth says it’s Epping Forest in the DVD commentary (to which Todd replies “Epping rubbish, more like”)

Epping Forest is a bit shit. I mean it’s nice if you like trees, which I do, but it is somewhat cheapened by the inescapable sound of the surrounding A roads. There’s better woodland in London but not many of them have the space for a chopper chase scene, I guess.
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Post by: zomgmouse on June 16, 2021, 01:03:44 AM
(Peter Cook studenty? Whaaat?)

it's clearly because of the reference to rigorous exams
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Post by: The Mollusk on June 16, 2021, 07:49:01 AM
“Larry Renwick was admitted last week. The guy went axe-happy on a trout farm. He killed 60 fish.”
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Post by: Jumblegraws on June 16, 2021, 09:18:26 AM
Epping Forest is a bit shit. I mean it’s nice if you like trees, which I do, but it is somewhat cheapened by the inescapable sound of the surrounding A roads. There’s better woodland in London but not many of them have the space for a chopper chase scene, I guess.
In context, Todd is referring to the footage rather than the forest, I think.
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Post by: willbo on June 16, 2021, 09:20:01 AM
One Problem with Man to Man is; Richard Ayoede didn't play Dean Learner like he did in Darkplace, he was much shiftier in DP.

Haven't seen Man to Man for years but I remember him being pretty disturbingly shifty in it...
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Post by: sevendaughters on June 16, 2021, 09:45:21 AM
Man to Man is better than I remember but the laugh track is particularly cloying, a sign of lost faith by the higher-ups
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Post by: The Mollusk on June 16, 2021, 11:52:18 AM
In context, Todd is referring to the footage rather than the forest, I think.

Oh.
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on June 16, 2021, 11:54:49 AM
“Larry Renwick was admitted last week. The guy went axe-happy on a trout farm. He killed 60 fish.”

Dean’s admission to punching a child actor “who was rude about Garth’s writing” similarly pops into my head at improper moments.

“More of a back of the hand than a punch, but it came up in a big red bruise. Blah blah blah, cry cry cry, I don’t see it as a big deal.”
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Post by: Jumblegraws on June 16, 2021, 01:07:10 PM
The absurdly mean commentary about the child actors is another highlight of the Darkplace DVD commentary track.
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Post by: Mr Trumpet on June 16, 2021, 02:25:48 PM
That and the constant slagging off of Kim Noble and the other chap. "Who is that ghastly ugly-looking fellow?" etc
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Post by: Jumblegraws on June 16, 2021, 02:32:08 PM
It’s a shame in hindsight that they don’t aim any of that at Graham Linehan when he shows up
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Post by: Mr Trumpet on June 16, 2021, 05:02:16 PM
I imagine they knew how he'd react and thought better of it.
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Post by: nameof on June 17, 2021, 09:02:15 AM
“You and he were buddies weren’t you” need I say more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYM1BjRvtvg&t=1654s
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Post by: jobotic on June 17, 2021, 09:15:43 AM
Wet wipes

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2qqa1b