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Started by touchingcloth, June 30, 2022, 09:57:09 AM
Quote from: bgmnts on July 02, 2022, 10:03:17 AMDo you understand the difference between George Floyd and black people in america's situation and Capt Tom Moore and his family's situation?
Quote from: Martin Van Buren Stan on July 02, 2022, 10:38:33 AMSo you're saying BLM should get away with looting millions of dollars because they're black? Fuck all the genuinely needy black people who could have benefited from that money eh. Don't hold them to account.
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Quote from: Martin Van Buren Stan on July 02, 2022, 10:58:04 AMYawnnn. Your wokest man on the planet credentials remain strong, Barry. I didn't even want to talk about this, but here's another receipt since y'all won't let it lie. https://fee.org/articles/george-floyd-riots-caused-record-setting-2-billion-in-damage-new-report-says-here-s-why-the-true-cost-is-even-higher/
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Quote from: Martin Van Buren Stan on June 30, 2022, 11:27:53 AMBloody racist justice system dragging down another successful black man!
Quote from: Kankurette on July 02, 2022, 11:21:38 AMYou tell us to 'be better' and then you go and use 'woke' as an insult. The mask always slips in the end with you lot, doesn't it?What is your point? George Floyd wasn't a good person, but don't you understand that the police crushing a man to death is not a good thing? Because even if you think Floyd had it coming, how do you explain Tamir Rice? Trayvon Martin? Elijah McClain, for fuck's sake? It sets a precedent. And before you get angry with me, no, I've never made any jokes about Captain Tom being a paedo or a Nazi, feel free to check my posts.
Quote from: Martin Van Buren Stan on July 02, 2022, 11:33:46 AMGod you're all so fucking blind. How is it racist to criticize the mass hysteria media hagiography of George Floyd? You don't think the gold coffin was a bit OTT? Or the thousands of murals? This is absolutely no different to a bunch of gammons accusing you of hating the troops is you fail to worship captain Tom. I know you'll never see it, though. Also go and FUCK yourself @kankruette you ignorant prick. Trayvon Martin wasn't even killed by a cop you fucking idiot so I don't want to hear your ignorant takes on it. Maybe you've got Trayvon mixed up with another black person. Do they all look alike to you?
Quote from: touchingcloth on July 02, 2022, 11:54:27 AMThe media missed the point with Nazi Tom. Fundamentally it is a bad thing that an organisation like NHS Charities Together needs to exist, so cheerleading a 100 year old man trudging round his garden to help them is mad, and rather than highlighting just how fucked the NHS is it felt like it did the opposite and let us pat Tom and ourselves on the back rather than trying to address the underlying structural problems. Hence the catharsis of calling their totem a Nazi pedo. Ultimately his walk was about as useful as banging pots and pans. BLM on the other hand did and carries on doing a good job of challenging people to address certain issues, and has resulted in actual positive changes to address some of those issues, in a way that feels like more than just a sticking plaster. It hasn't addressed all of the problems of course, but it's highlighting causes rather than symptoms, and I don't think it's given many people a reason to pat themselves on the back. It's a massive movement and it's not at all surprising it would attract chancers and fraudsters. Tom didn't trigger a movement, and the people behind his prominence seemed cynical and fraudulent from the get-go. to;dr: It'd be nice if Tom had inspired people to get mad and smash some shit.
Quote from: Martin Van Buren Stan on July 02, 2022, 12:01:34 PMI agree with some of this. I think you're downplaying how damaging the BLM riots were though. About 25 people were murdered during them and many black communities were destroyed. Interestingly your defense of BLM reminds me of Tommy Robinson's defense of the EDL. He always said it was such a big movement he couldn't be held responsible for the actions of all its members. Of course the EDL didn't burn down cities and murder dozens of people but you get my point.
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