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General Bullshit / Re: Trump #7 - Kremlin's in the system
« Last post by manticore on Today at 03:04:54 AM »

https://twitter.com/KyleKulinski/status/1018923857699332096

I've found an even worse hot take.

I do find that cathartic. 'Hyperbolic fucknut.'

It's quite a relief to me when people like Large Noise and Dog Botherer who don't usually post in this thread come in and speak sanely. The bullshit you sometimes read here about things like Korea and Russia is as bad as the BBC or MSNBC.
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Wasn't being flippant, by the way, I though all TVs were as mighty as a £100 Finlux on that front these days.
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General Bullshit / Re: Trump #7 - Kremlin's in the system
« Last post by BlodwynPig on Today at 02:50:38 AM »


ain't that the truth
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Picture Box / Re: Please Pump my Punk Pile
« Last post by Dog Botherer on Today at 02:46:56 AM »
Off the top of my head, that haven’t been mentioned yet;

X Ray Spex - Germ Free Adolescents
Stiff Little Fingers - Inflammable Material
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General Bullshit / Re: Trump #7 - Kremlin's in the system
« Last post by Dog Botherer on Today at 02:27:51 AM »
Trump clearly isn’t a Russian agent or stooge or whatever. He just loves being praised by powerful men who he sees as his peers. It’s not any more complicated than that. All this grand conspiracy nonsense is an attempt to rationalise the collapse of the American political system.
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General Bullshit / Re: Trump #7 - Kremlin's in the system
« Last post by BlodwynPig on Today at 02:22:32 AM »
blotto then

I am now. On grape.
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General Bullshit / Re: Trump #7 - Kremlin's in the system
« Last post by Large Noise on Today at 02:20:57 AM »
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Hmm. Can you tell me more about this Moscow Center?
It's the CEIP, it's based in the US, that's its Moscow centre. It's very critical of Putin.

You can pick holes in the articles in various ways. But the point remains that you won't find any credible Russia analyst who thinks Putin is working Trump/Trump is a stooge/Putin is blackmailing him. Your excuse for not finding any decent sources who're experts on Russia to support your position seems to boil down to "I can't because I wouldn't know where to start because I'm not familiar with any".
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General Bullshit / Re: Trump #7 - Kremlin's in the system
« Last post by Howj Begg on Today at 01:56:50 AM »
snip

Two out of three of these articles are a year old. We've found out a lot since.

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by MARK GALEOTTI on MARCH 3, 2017

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"The anti-Trump train in the US, in comparison, is still full of accidental passengers who will soon get off because they are culturally closer to the Trumpists. These accidental passengers aren’t that different from their opponents when it comes to blaming their country’s ills on foreign conspiracies and spitting out xenophobic vitriol against their chosen enemy — Russians in their case

This may or may not be true, but it's not a clear vote either way for Trump's obvious indebtdness to Putin. The rest of the article doesn't comment anything substantial on that point either. It doesn't approach the substantial point made by the first article either:

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In other words, the real story is about the way that the rich and the powerful may regard Russia as a geopolitical antagonist, and yet be happy to cut deals with Russians if it helps them become richer and more powerful.
 

which I agree with, despite that being again orthogonal to Trump-Putin.

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DMITRI TRENIN
Op-EdFebruary 20, 2017Security Times
Dmitri Trenin
Director
Moscow Center

Hmm. Can you tell me more about this Moscow Center?
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General Bullshit / Re: Trump #7 - Kremlin's in the system
« Last post by Howj Begg on Today at 01:49:17 AM »
Is that the best you can do, warmonger?

blotto then
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