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Achewood appreciation thread

Started by madhair60, May 23, 2024, 02:26:16 PM

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I think people who say they don't like Achewood are probably put off by the artwork. It's a very text-based comic and although I think the art serves it well, it might look a bit crude. It is so well-written though, and tall of the main characters - there's like seven or eight of them - have such individual and consistent voices it's quite incredible, and persevering with it really pays off. Having said that, if you don't like it, you don't like it, but it really can't be judged from posting one or two strips.

The writing though... so many quotable phrases that just appear from time to time in my mind.

"I proved myself a coward who would desert a dying man"

Centre panel in this strip might be my favourite Achewood moment


Bought the sticker pack that includes a version of it and have it displayed on my desk at all times. Have not yet found a good location for the "Suckin' dick bought this van" sticker included in the same pack, but I will, one day.

Ornlu

Quote from: Mister Six on May 24, 2024, 01:55:05 PMRay (the cat with the glasses that have the thick black... arms? The bits that go over your ears if you're a human) and Roast Beef (the tall cat who talks like this all the dang time) are supposed to be Latino.

I think the other characters just dip into it here and there, as was the fashion at the time.

Ah right, cheers.

spaghetamine


edwardfog

Is that so? Is that in the text? Their surnames are Smuckles and Kazenzakis respectively. (Not asking combatively just curious)

Anyway I think Achewood is genuinely one of the most important works of literature of the 21st century. I had the rabbit ambulance shirt and the I'm the guy who sucks / plus I got depression shirt both of which I wore regularly until they disintegrated circa 2020

Edit: to Mister Six

Pink Gregory

Presumably that could have been the intention before Ray and Beef got last names and became the heart of the comic

frajer

God Ray and Roast Beef are so good. Might be my favourite characters in anything ever. Independently or together, the "Knuckleheads from the Day" just work so fucking well.

Molly is such a great foil for Beef as well


Pink Gregory

Quote from: extraordinary walnuts on May 24, 2024, 05:14:54 PMMolly is such a great foil for Beef as well



see, they could have had Lyle there instead, but having sweet little Phillipe there instead makes it perfect

frajer

Quote from: extraordinary walnuts on May 24, 2024, 05:14:54 PMMolly is such a great foil for Beef as well



That's a great one.

Love the strip where he writes the fiercely humble letter to the judge disputing his parking fee. "I am not proud of this but then again I ain't got much to be proud of" is a line that bubbles to the surface of my brain a lot.

Him putting on a tie before he leaves is just ace.


fucking ponderous

I think of this whenever I straight up drink a glass of milk


One of my favorite parts of Achewood is Onstad's firm grasp on weird pop culture minutiae.  See also:

Mister Six

Quote from: edwardfog on May 24, 2024, 04:49:34 PMIs that so? Is that in the text? Their surnames are Smuckles and Kazenzakis respectively. (Not asking combatively just curious)

Sorry, I'm possibly misremembering from many years ago. I recalled him having a Latino voice in the Onstad-approved animated test footage, but it doesn't sound like that so much now I listen to it about 10 years later!


The Mollusk

That one with Beef burying the t-shirt is one of the most relatable things I ever read about depression

Pink Gregory

Quote from: Mister Six on May 24, 2024, 07:10:56 PMSorry, I'm possibly misremembering from many years ago. I recalled him having a Latino voice in the Onstad-approved animated test footage, but it doesn't sound like that so much now I listen to it about 10 years later!



Fun fact - Onstad plays Roast Beef

Quote from: The Mollusk on May 24, 2024, 07:31:55 PMThat one with Beef burying the t-shirt is one of the most relatable things I ever read about depression

His panic in the final frame really hits hard

Vodkafone

Even if he'd only come up with "It is silly to like The Cure" and "Beef, we watching hella porno" it would have been worth it, and yet there's so much more.

fucking ponderous


lazyhour

What's the writer's ethnicity, anyone know?

Catalogue Trousers

I always imagine Cornelius speaking like James Earl Jones and Roast Beef like Jeff Bridges as Jack Lucas. Don't ask me to explain.

fucking ponderous

For what it's worth, I've never thought the dialogue was meant to imitate AAVE. I always assumed it was some very specific regional dialect, wherever Onstad is from.

Langdale

Quote from: The Mollusk on May 24, 2024, 07:31:55 PMThat one with Beef burying the t-shirt is one of the most relatable things I ever read about depression

I must admit I don't fully get Achewood (yet) but the strip about Beef being "too depressed to finish biting through that piece of toast" really connected.

madhair60


Mister Six

Quote from: lazyhour on May 24, 2024, 08:53:07 PMWhat's the writer's ethnicity, anyone know?

It's not 2016, you don't have to worry about these things any more.

QDRPHNC


sevendaughters

I was really enjoying the Patreon stuff but had to tap out of frivolities for the time being.


no_offenc

The patreon stuff feels like yer man's found his voice again. The brief comeback a few years back was good but the recent stuff feels like old times in terms of how the characters are written.

Nice Pete arrives in troubling fashion at least once.

The Mollusk


Hobo With A Shit Pun

Quote from: lazyhour on May 24, 2024, 08:53:07 PMWhat's the writer's ethnicity, anyone know?

More importantly, what's his wife's?

(When Ultra Peanut,  the Chinese otter,learns English she speaks in a very stereotypical bloken engrish way. The alternate text for that strip is "My wife's Chinese. She wrote this." Dunno if that's a joke with any basis in reality.)

sevendaughters

I always read Ray as AAVE but not anyone else. I don't have a problem with it at all.

The low point of attempting to write a different voice was the southern couple who consider shooting Teodor as he takes a shit on their lawn whilst tripping on acid because Nice Pete has kidnapped him and coerced him into 'dares' (even writing that out shows how convoluted it briefly became). That whole storyline just became insanely dark, actually.

g0m

Quote from: Hobo With A Shit Pun on May 26, 2024, 12:50:37 PMMore importantly, what's his wife's?

a lot of the post-good stuff of the original run came after onstad's divorce. a lot of rough stuff between beef and molly coming after that. basically:



it's been enough time after that that he seems to be doing better now though

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