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The New Norm Show (𝕏 Sitcom)

Started by Leo2112, June 27, 2024, 01:22:09 AM

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frajer

Whether it's your living room or Disney World, you just cannot avoid woke.

If only there was a third place you could go.


*Actually, why is the house-arrested Norm allowed to go Disney World?

Barry Admin

#61
Quote from: frajer on June 28, 2024, 11:44:00 AMNorm speaks too much common sense so the wokes have slapped an ankle monitor on him.

His black friend hates wokes too, so Norm can't be a bigot.

I just noticed also that he's wearing a Redskins t-shirt and cap.

I didn't get the significance of that til just now.


phantom_power

Quote from: Shaxberd on June 28, 2024, 11:34:21 AMRight-wing people can make good art and comedy when they keep their views out of it, it's political or satirical art that they tend to be terrible at. It's hard to reconcile a desire to maintain the status quo with the necessity of surprise and subversion that humour requires. I think about the only guys who've really pulled it off are the South Park guys - their views annoy me but they know how to write actual jokes.

If you want to make something entertaining with a right wing political message it's usually more successful to play it completely straight. Something like Top Gun that's naked propaganda that makes warfare look cool and fun.

I suppose I mean culturally right wing rather than economically. And they can't shut the fuck up about their beliefs so there is no way they could keep it out of their art

Remember when right wingers hated identity politics. Now that seems to be all they ever talk about

Barry Admin

"For someone who likes seeing his name - could be a win-win." 😂

This is Dave Rubin pretending to be an equal opportunity both sides defender, but he's absolutely shit scared of alienating MAGA cunts, so the most damning thing he can say about Trump is that he likes seeing his own name and might pick his own son as a VP.

Wait, is he actually saying it about the voters? For voters who like seeing Trump's name, it could be a win-win?



A win-win implies both parties benefit.

What does it mean??? Did AI write this shit too?.

dontpaintyourteeth


frajer

Quote from: Barry Admin on June 28, 2024, 11:57:11 AMBut why does Norm's wife say Chaz is there to "reeducate him" when he's just like Norm? I don't get it.

I just noticed also that he's wearing a Redskins t-shirt and cap.

I didn't get the significance of that til just now.



Oh christ that Redskins merch, I didn't spot that either.

Doesn't appear to be any thought process to any of it beyond chucking a load of boomer bait into a pot and telling the audience that you can't say anything these days, can you?

Chaz is the funniest thing in the bleakest way possible because it's the embodiment of "I can't be racist because I have a black friend" but done in utter earnestness.

fucking ponderous

I come here to get away from woke.

Barry Admin

#67
Quote from: fucking ponderous on June 28, 2024, 03:22:55 PMI come here to get away from woke.

Hey pronoun, this Bud's for you.



This show is so full of brain worm Twitter addict bullshit that I actually didn't realise til earlier that the whole episode is also poking fun at the Dylan Mulvaney Budweiser controversy.

And what exactly is it they're saying with Charlie? The show is all based around the idea of "normality", so they seem to be saying that Norm (a transphobic cunt) is perfectly justified to dislike trans and nb people. They go out of their way to give him a black friend to disavow the notion that he's just some kind of bigot. (Bigots generally really hate being called bigots.)



Back to Charlie wearing Redskins merch, what's that saying exactly? That "good"/"normal" African-American people just settle down and stfu about derogatory slang and racialised caricatures? 

Note also that the Redskins have changed their name and logo, so he's deliberately hanging onto and displaying the offensive merch.

By contrast, it's the white "woke" Chaz who has the Black Lives Matter sticker.

Although it's laughably inept, there is a particularly hateful worldview being communicated and reinforced through this cartoon, especially all the times they refer to Chaz as "that."

retsuza

Dave Rubin might genuinely win the wildly competitive award for stupidest rightwing talking head and I've seen Larry Elder get tricked into going on the same prank channel fake interview show multiple times, so I wasn't completely surprised by how bad this was. At the same time, its endlessly fascinating to me especially the sycophantic Musk cameo.

I can tell Rubin wrote this because I smell his particular stink of humour. It's a bit of a nitpick when there's so much worse about the clip, but his voice acting as the nonbinary person is WOEFUL.

fucking ponderous

#69
Quote from: Barry Admin on June 28, 2024, 04:38:43 PMBack to Charlie wearing Redskins merch, what's that saying exactly? That "good"/"normal" African-American people just settle down and stfu about derogatory slang and racialised caricatures? 
 

That's pretty much exactly it. A good amount of this is residual anger at brands going "woke" that I highly doubt normal everyday conservative Americans who don't spend every waking moment on social media even still think about. I've never heard anyone talk about the Bud Light Dylan Mulvaney thing in real life. It happened nearly a year ago. The Disney World thing is about them removing their advertising, but also about Disney being perceived in these circles as a "woke" company due to them daring to put non-white and LGBT characters in their kids films. Again, I don't think anyone in real life thinks about these things. The audience for this is strictly conservatives who can't get off the internet, and other people in the conservative media sphere. I'm not sure anyone who hasn't had their brain rotted by the internet would understand a lick of it.

Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse

Quote from: Barry Admin on June 28, 2024, 04:38:43 PMAnd what exactly is it they're saying with Charlie? The show is all based around the idea of "normality", so they seem to be saying that Norm (a transphobic cunt) is perfectly justified to dislike trans and nb people. They go out of their way to give him a black friend to disavow the notion that he's just some kind of bigot. (Bigots generally really hate being called bigots.)
Charlie's his boss and he hates all this woke shit too, because systemic racism isn't real, and Critical Race Theory/Diversity, Equity and Inclusion are anti-American woke propaganda.

Barry Admin

#71
Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on June 28, 2024, 06:08:46 PMCharlie's his boss and he hates all this woke shit too, because systemic racism isn't real, and Critical Race Theory/Diversity, Equity and Inclusion are anti-American woke propaganda.

Are they having a laugh with the fact Charlie owns a trophy shop or am I finally reading too much into it? I was wondering if it was like he's Norm's trophy friend (like a trophy wife) - their version of South Park calling that kid "Token."

What did Archie Bunker's neighbour do for a living? They're drawing on All In The Family a lot for inspiration, with the set and such.

Edit: I don't think this really makes sense and suspect fucking ponderous has the right answer two posts down.

Barry Admin

Quote from: fucking ponderous on June 28, 2024, 06:05:15 PMA good amount of this is residual anger at brands going "woke"...

God, yeah, it is. I'm glad you highlighted it like that. When you stop and think of it in those terms, it's even more depressing and weird.

Imagine being this emotionally involved in advertising and brands.

This is one of the most baffling and odious elements of the show now I think about it like that. Onwership over the way people advertise things you don't want or need to you - wild.

fucking ponderous

Might be something about "participation trophies" in the trophy shop thing? Must stay tuned for further character development.

Stinky Lomax

[fake edit: got sniped by fucking ponderous on the participation trophy thing!]

Quote from: Barry Admin on June 28, 2024, 06:30:19 PMAre they having a laugh with the fact Charlie owns a trophy shop or am I finally reading too much into it? I was wondering if it was like he's Norm's trophy friend (like a trophy wife) - their version of South Park calling that kid "Token."

What did Archie Bunker's neighbour do for a living? They're drawing on All In The Family a lot for inspiration, with the set and such.

I haven't watched it, but as soon as I read 'trophy shop' my thought was that they're saying trophies are in high demand nowadays because everyone gets them for participating. Thing is, that would be too clever and subtle for them, whereas the 'trophy friend' joke would be too self-aware (unless they're copying South Park without understanding it)...

Barry Admin

I suspect you guys have it!

But wait though...

So there's a guy who likes it and who they've retweeted, I'm not linking his video as it has a transphobic slur in it, and neither have the new norm show lol. I just realised they took a screenshot of it instead so I had to hunt it down myself.

Anyway, big grifter, tl;dr he thinks the show is a "great idea" and that he should be in it with other conservative people like Candace Owens and Joe Rogan.

I revisited it to make a return to the tangent about brands:



He's also wearing an "I'm voting for the felon t-shirt" that he sells at the start of the video, which you can't see over all the other t-shirts above. I just thought that was interesting when you look at how much of the cartoon he's talking about is concerned with "woke" advertising.

Anyway, he sits pretty much stoney-faced throughout, but does laugh out loud at the trophy shop bit. So perhaps there is some form of joke there?

Charlie wants to get away from woke so he's selling real trophies as a reaction to everyone else getting participation trophies these days?

Is it that?

Ignatius_S

Quote from: Barry Admin on June 28, 2024, 11:57:11 AMI just noticed also that he's wearing a Redskins t-shirt and cap.

I didn't get the significance of that til just now.

When I first clocked it, it took me a second for the penny to drop because the the name change happened several years ago. Although it does get crops up now and again, it's a curiously dated reference... what are the odds...

lazyhour

In answer to an earlier question about whether there are any funny right wing comedians... ironically, the real Norm seemed to be at least centre-right and was one of the funniest people who ever did live, so it is possible. 

Led Souptin

The new normal isn't a "woke" phrase is it?

Am I wrong on that? I only really first heard it being widely used during covid. To describe having to adjust and adapt to the virus, not trans people.

Unless right wingers have adopted it for hate purposes, the title doesn't even make sense.

It should be called "typi-callum" or "accus-tom-ed" or "Henry cunt"

Ignatius_S

Quote from: Led Souptin on June 28, 2024, 07:58:55 PMThe new normal isn't a "woke" phrase is it?

Am I wrong on that? I only really first heard it being widely used during covid. To describe having to adjust and adapt to the virus, not trans people.

Unless right wingers have adopted it for hate purposes, the title doesn't even make sense.

It should be called "typi-callum" or "accus-tom-ed" or "Henry cunt"


The phrase has been used for over 100 years. It's gained a lot of currency over the last 25 years, however.

Barry Admin

#80
I mentioned this above and it hadn't occured to me until I was writing the post, so I double checked it.

This is one of my favourite things: people who spend their entire lives moaning about "compelled speech" on the internet, who then self-censor themselves all the time because they're afraid of the algorithm deboosting them for being offensive.

So look at this, they just give a screen shot of the video and they link to his Twitter account, not even to his YouTube account and not to the video itself:



And this is what the episode looks like on YouTube:



Which means they were scared to embed a review about their cartoon on Elon Musk's iteration of Twitter even though the cartoon itself is about Twitter being "the home for free speech" because it might then show a transphobic slur on their page, which could trigger the algorithm into hurting their already dogshit engagement.

L
O
L

These guys do not want their brand to be associated with overt transphobia.

Thats some woke bullshit surely.

It's literally the only positive review of their cartoon and they're too scared to even retweet it BECAUSE IT'S TRANSPHOBIC

Edit: just to prove they do worry about this kind of thing, as it's too funny to me given the themes of the show they've made. Heil Holer:


Ignatius_S

Quote from: fucking ponderous on June 28, 2024, 06:05:15 PMThat's pretty much exactly it. A good amount of this is residual anger at brands going "woke" that I highly doubt normal everyday conservative Americans who don't spend every waking moment on social media even still think about. I've never heard anyone talk about the Bud Light Dylan Mulvaney thing in real life. It happened nearly a year ago. The Disney World thing is about them removing their advertising, but also about Disney being perceived in these circles as a "woke" company due to them daring to put non-white and LGBT characters in their kids films. Again, I don't think anyone in real life thinks about these things. The audience for this is strictly conservatives who can't get off the internet, and other people in the conservative media sphere. I'm not sure anyone who hasn't had their brain rotted by the internet would understand a lick of it.

There's also the highly publicised spat with DeSantis and Disney's opposition to his 'Don't say gay' policy.

Additionally, there are theme park Gay Days (these started unofficially in the 1990s and something that Disney has embraced) and Pride Parties, which some religious groups have been extremely critical of and try to persuade people not to visit.

Disney does have a long history of telling religious groups where to go. There's a certain irony the way that Walt Disney is often portrayed as a conservative Christian type. During his lifetime, various religious groups regularly contacted him urging there to be overtly religious (i.e. Christian message) - his response was always a 'I'm sure there's a place for that kind of thing, but it's not my films.' His own view was that someone's religious views is an entirely personal thing and they need to find what's right for them. He embodied this on Sundays, whilst his wife and his daughters went to church, Walt stayed at home and played with the giant miniature railway in the garden.




Ignatius_S

Quote from: Barry Admin on June 28, 2024, 06:30:19 PMAre they having a laugh with the fact Charlie owns a trophy shop or am I finally reading too much into it? I was wondering if it was like he's Norm's trophy friend (like a trophy wife) - their version of South Park calling that kid "Token."

What did Archie Bunker's neighbour do for a living? They're drawing on All In The Family a lot for inspiration, with the set and such.

Edit: I don't think this really makes sense and suspect fucking ponderous has the right answer two posts down.

George Jefferson on All In The Family owned a chain of dry cleaning stores and was wealthy (which was used to set up the spin-off series).

Initially, the character was intended as a character very similar to Archie, which got toned down. Both were often at loggerheads but there was a sort of friendship and affection between them that developed.

Another neighbour, Barney was Archie's best friend and played by the late, great, Allan Melvin. Fun fact: Melvin and Lenny Bruce both had their first national media appearance on Arthur Godfrey's Talent Scouts, both doing impersonations.

retsuza

#83
Quote from: Led Souptin on June 28, 2024, 07:58:55 PMThe new normal isn't a "woke" phrase is it?

Am I wrong on that? I only really first heard it being widely used during covid. To describe having to adjust and adapt to the virus, not trans people.

Unless right wingers have adopted it for hate purposes, the title doesn't even make sense.

It should be called "typi-callum" or "accus-tom-ed" or "Henry cunt"


Dave Rubin is a huge anti-vax guy who I remember constantly bringing up "the so-called new norm" as he so-called it.

He has this rehearsed line of everything being "racist transphobic misogynistic.."

Most of the weird stuff in this does seem to be Dave's idea. Watch him wrestle with Chris Coumo after being lightly challenged on what he means by FAUCI SHOULD BE IN JAIL, FOR VAX REASONS:
https://x.com/DaveClips/status/1804541415600398660?t=hG3-TH-4SwZWdONuCaMWPw&s=19

Ferris


madhair60


Ferris

Quote from: madhair60 on June 28, 2024, 11:25:01 PMit's your favourite comedy of all-time.

Proper sends up culture that I don't understand and/or fear. Brilliant.

Tell you who needs taking down a peg or two - LGBTQ+ folks! They've had it pretty good for a bit too long if you ask me.

Get them, Stew! Get them!!

Etc.

Ferris

The DC NFL team thing is incomprehensible unless you just don't care and want to laugh because you're a dopey cunt. Wearing that jersey (+additional gear) is a culture war thing. More or less boils down to: are you a spiteful cunt? Then buy this hat!!

It's also two (three? Four?) states away from NY Jets territory with at least two teams in between so the transition gag doesn't even work. MLB renamed its equivalent Cleveland team a few years back and similar cunty boomers were unhappy but everyone is basically fine with it now.

Doesn't matter - get them, Stew! Get them!!

dontpaintyourteeth

shit and stupid cunt show for people who are shit and stupid cunts