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What is a good job to have?

Started by Jerzy Bondov, July 02, 2012, 03:33:17 PM

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Hangthebuggers

Quote from: biggytitbo on July 02, 2012, 07:48:01 PM
Have you noticed that a largish minority of jobs have absolutely no worth or real purpose at all? And if you work in an office this ratio increases dramatically.

Why do you always get picked on? I'm new here. Is it because of your largely and unwavering left wing views?

Genuine question.

biggytitbo

Quote from: KLG-7A on July 02, 2012, 07:50:10 PM
Biggy. What is your job? You fascinate me a bit and I want to know what you do.
Web developer, pointless job.

biggytitbo

Quote from: Hangthebuggers on July 02, 2012, 10:30:27 PM
Why do you always get picked on? I'm new here. Is it because of your largely and unwavering left wing views?

Genuine question.
i think it's just a raging jealousy/sexual obsession.

TrenterPercenter

QuoteI'm not saying all vets are as cynical as this, but they have the public in a very enviable position in terms of placing a monetary cost on the lives of their beloved, 'it's not about the money', pets

I worked happily as a vet for years until i got fired for gross misconduct.  Manager found out i'd been fucking the dogs that came into the surgery.

I know what your thinking, how low can a man get?

Well I had a daschund.

holyzombiejesus

I spent 10 years working in a children's home, as a Residential Social (or Support) Worker. For 8 of those years, I thought it was The Best Job In The World. Everything - the hours, the holidays, the pay, colleagues, the kids, the work itself. I even used to believe that if I suddenly won the lottery, I'd carry on working there. Now, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, which is a shame as it's quite easy to get in to and, despite the best efforts of the 'why not foster a child?' adverts, I think they'll always be needed.

Currently, I work in commissioning which is definitely an area which will grow, at least while this awful shower of cunts are in charge. Unfortunately, it's as dull as dishwater and I fucking hate it.

Nuclear Optimism

There's a job title in my workplace called "Assistant Employee Assistant". Possibly the most soul crushing position I can imagine.

Quote from: Nuclear Optimism on July 03, 2012, 12:39:38 PM
There's a job title in my workplace called "Assistant Employee Assistant". Possibly the most soul crushing position I can imagine.

Only "Assistant Employee Assistant (Temporary)" would top that, I think. 

Still Not George

Quote from: biggytitbo on July 02, 2012, 10:40:12 PM
i think it's just a raging jealousy/sexual obsession.

Definitely sexual obsession in my case.


Nuclear Optimism

Quote from: holyzombiejesus on July 03, 2012, 11:55:58 AM
I spent 10 years working in a children's home, as a Residential Social (or Support) Worker. For 8 of those years, I thought it was The Best Job In The World. Everything - the hours, the holidays, the pay, colleagues, the kids

Paedo.


Nuclear Optimism


Sarge

My brother's a balloon pilot-loves it, currently working in the Masai Mara, hour and a half a day roughly

Mr Eggs

Pylon Rigger.

They get lots of work in England thanks to balloon pilots.

homesickalien

my two cents: definitely do some work experience if you can to see what the next job your interested in is REALLY like before making the move.  I've learnt that all the research on the internet does not replace seeing with your own eyes day to day what a job will involve

Re: teaching - the school environment (at least in Primary) is definitely a fun upbeat atmosphere but the actual teaching involves alot of managerial skills and of course setting a good example, so if your a lazy procrastinator like me, it'd be a difficult job.  Also you have to do things like have work tailored in each lesson to at least 3 different skill levels, coupled with marking, planning etc all can take a looooong time

morgs

Quote from: mook on July 02, 2012, 04:48:10 PM
i'd have thought being a teacher would be a hellish job. the pay is average to poor at best considering you're surrounded by kids and fucking teachers all day. no wonder they all look so bloody miserable. christ, it must get old real quick having to teach the same old shite day in day out without anything to look forward to bar a poxy pension. surely any progress in their careers only leads them further away from what they originally wanted to do. sounds dreadful to me.

I'm a high school teacher and it can be great, but you've hit the nail on the head with that. Watch the news, if you can bear to, schools are blamed or expected to follow some new idea that Mr Gove had a wet dream about almost daily. Childhood obesity? Blame schools. Teenage pregnancy? Ditto. The riots? Definitely poor teaching....

Morale is low.

And then my mates go on about the holidays and how it's a piece of piss. Good thing is, one of them has just decided to train and the reality of teacher training in an urban high school has hit home.

Ronnie the Raincoat

I had a complete panic attack about nursing last night.  I thought about the responsibility and thought, "OH MY FUCKING GOD, I DON'T WANT IT!" I never slept properly on placement thinking about everything I did and its impact and now I'm off placement I can't sleep thinking about all the tiny ways along the line I made mistakes. I really don't want that responsibility over another person's life, it absolutely terrifies me.  I'd quite like a nice writerly, distant job, like the one I am used to.  I am horrified by the fact I could fuck up a persons' life.  Which is why I couldn't be a teacher, either, as children are vulnerable, too.

mr. logic

I have just qualified as a teacher, and I'm currently looking for a job which involves working with children, and perhaps even elements of teaching, but not one working in a school full time, with those horrible, BORING people (other teachers, not children). Children's home could be good, will I need any further qualifications?

billtheburger

I supply libraries with books, so I face a similar future of book laden drowning. Fortunately we have a niche supplying foreign language books for all the nationalities that have moved over here. Thus, for now, Durham alone pays my mortgage.

On the plus side I only work thirty five hours a week and I cram it into four days leaving me with a four day weekend and the majority of my workday consists of surfing the internet.

Good jobs needed in the future:
Airline pilots - there will be a shortage by the end of the decade.
NATS air traffic controller - mega pay.
Deep sea scuba oil rig welder - adventure.

holyzombiejesus

Quote from: mr. logic on July 05, 2012, 09:26:11 AM
I have just qualified as a teacher, and I'm currently looking for a job which involves working with children, and perhaps even elements of teaching, but not one working in a school full time, with those horrible, BORING people (other teachers, not children). Children's home could be good, will I need any further qualifications?

Children's homes don't tend to have on sight educational provision any more. There are a few residential schools that have a large number of Looked After Children but these are generally geared towards kids with Special Educational Needs rather than just general LAC. All the ones that I've visited tend to be out in the wilds somewhere but do seem to be quite interesting/ challenging places to work in. In my experience, they seem to work aswell, which is always a boon.


mr. logic

So were you working as a counsillor then?  How did you get in to that?

(Thanks for responding, by the way.)

Edit:

Sorry, you've already answered the first bit.  Looking around it says you need an NVQ- is that always the case?

Jamie Oliver is fat

Quote from: billtheburger on July 05, 2012, 11:43:50 AM
I supply libraries with books, so I face a similar future of book laden drowning. Fortunately we have a niche supplying foreign language books for all the nationalities that have moved over here. Thus, for now, Durham alone pays my mortgage.

On the plus side I only work thirty five hours a week and I cram it into four days leaving me with a four day weekend and the majority of my workday consists of surfing the internet.

Good jobs needed in the future:
Airline pilots - there will be a shortage by the end of the decade.
NATS air traffic controller - mega pay.
Deep sea scuba oil rig welder - adventure.

Won't robots be flying planes in the future?

I think pilots, like bank tellers, computer game retailers and video shops, will be phased out by technology in the future

If I could go back, I'd stick to learning a trade like I was doing when I left school. There will always be a need for someone who can build stuff, and it's far more rewarding than anything involving a chair, a desk and flourescent lighting

Still Not George

Quote from: Jamie Oliver is fat on July 05, 2012, 12:27:59 PMI think pilots, like bank tellers, computer game retailers and video shops, will be phased out by technology in the future
Bank tellers are increasingly being merged with "customer specialists" or whatever they're calling "the bank manager" (ie, the person you go to try and get a loan or complain about charges to) these days.

billtheburger

Quote from: Jamie Oliver is fat on July 05, 2012, 12:27:59 PM
Won't robots be flying planes in the future?
I assume so, but they expect to need 400 new pilots a year for at least up to our retirement. That number will likely increase, too.
Of course it's going to cost loads to be trained up to do the job.

MojoJojo

Quote from: billtheburger on July 05, 2012, 11:43:50 AM
On the plus side I only work thirty five hours a week and I cram it into four days leaving me with a four day weekend and the majority of my workday consists of surfing the internet.

Another plus is that little skill at maths is required.

Jamie Oliver is fat

Quote from: billtheburger on July 05, 2012, 12:34:58 PM
I assume so, but they expect to need 400 new pilots a year for at least up to our retirement. That number will likely increase, too.
Of course it's going to cost loads to be trained up to do the job.

50 grand I think is a ballpark people work to, if you can't get some kind of apprenticeship

Amazing job though, if a little surprisingly low paid to start with. I once knew someone who was a first officer for a charter airline who was only on about 25k

holyzombiejesus

Quote from: mr. logic on July 05, 2012, 12:26:22 PM
So were you working as a counsillor then?  How did you get in to that?

(Thanks for responding, by the way.)

Edit:

Sorry, you've already answered the first bit.  Looking around it says you need an NVQ- is that always the case?

For working in a children's home or in a residential school? No idea on the latter but for the former, there'd be no entry qualifications. Most of the people I worked with had no formal qualifications at all. I think they got some people do an NVQ whilst they were in the job but if you've qualified as a teacher, I don't see why you'd need one.

I'm trying to think of some other education based jobs that I've encountered. Some of the bigger galleries/ museums have an educational department and that always seemed like a great job. They'd work specifically with certain groups like LAC and would do massive projects, sometimes involving weekends down in London and stuff like that.

billtheburger

Quote from: MojoJojo on July 05, 2012, 12:35:28 PM
Another plus is that little skill at maths is required.
Or proof reading, it would seem.

On the technical side I judge books by their covers. All in all, it's the only job I'd be able to do.

Artemis

Quote from: Ronnie the Raincoat on July 05, 2012, 12:16:53 AM
now I'm off placement I can't sleep thinking about all the tiny ways along the line I made mistakes. I really don't want that responsibility over another person's life, it absolutely terrifies me.

I'd rather have someone looking after me who's terrified they might fuck up than who doesn't give a shit about making mistakes. Obviously it's a heavy responsibility but you'll grow in confidence as you gain experience and plus - you're studying this stuff, so nobody expects you to know it all now. I think you'll be rather good at it, if it's what you end up deciding you'd like to do.

doppelkorn

I was idly browsing jobs earlier even though I don't need one and I'm going back to uni and I came across this one:

http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/jobopps/vacancy/VacancyDetails.aspx?jvacGuid=3443CCBC-102E-477B-888E-E375A0BA7C61

QuoteRef No
CHL028
Salary
£20,590 - £23,100 including Inner London Weighting.
Department
Culture, Heritage and Libraries
Description
A Services Assistant is required in the Heritage Services division of the department to join a team which provides high volume document retrieval services, document transportation, repository management services, and a number of other tasks including the provision of support services to other teams. The Heritage Services division of the Culture, Heritage and Libraries Department of the City of London covers Guildhall Art Gallery, Keats House and London Metropolitan Archives (LMA). The Services Assistant will be based at LMA, but may be required to work at other sites. Good communication skills and a clean current driving licence and willingness to drive the office van in London are essential requirements. There is a requirement for lifting and moving large quantities of boxes on a daily basis. The archives, modern records, plans, audio-visual and printed material in our strong-rooms contain a vast amount of information about the capital and its people. This material dates from 1067 to the present day and is part of the History of London Collection, which is held jointly at Guildhall Library and LMA. Hours of work will be 35 hours per week, 09.00 - 17.00 with some late evening or weekend work on a rota. For informal enquiries please contact Daniel Beagles, Senior Archivist on 020 7332 3849 Website: www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/LMA Closing date: Noon on 13 July 2012 Interviews: 26/27 July 2012 The City of London Corporation is committed to Equal Opportunities and welcomes applications from all sections of the community.
Location
London Metropolitan Archives

That seems like a cool job. Public sector, 9-5, driving around delivering old documents to white-haired document-requirers.