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Flat roofed murder pubs

Started by George White, July 14, 2023, 09:41:46 PM

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George White

Long been obsessed with these but this twitter thread is full of corkers. https://twitter.com/MysteriosoX/status/1678705037764182017


This one looks like a converted public toilets.

I'm trying to think though - any standout usage of them in films and TV. I'm trying to think. It feels like they'd be in something like The Offence, or a dozen eps of Cracker.

touchingcloth

Still, you love it like that.

Murder pub.

touchingcloth

Quote from: George White on July 14, 2023, 09:41:46 PMI'm trying to think though - any standout usage of them in films and TV. I'm trying to think. It feels like they'd be in something like The Offence, or a dozen eps of Cracker.


Sebastian Cobb

Served my time in them.

Although one place I used to drink in should've been a flat roofer, but had an angled Coral betting shop above it, which made it look like a Methodist Church.


George White

Quote from: touchingcloth on July 14, 2023, 10:59:05 PM
Can't see it. Dead link.

Prime example - the Foxhound in Raheny, used in the 1996 BBC film of Roddy Doyle's the Van.


jobotic


touchingcloth


Pijlstaart

A pretend coward, a children's coward, would hover at the door to watch mother drink in her ruffian hellpit and wait for her to bring them crisps, but I was the real deal and knew to be at least an arms length away and on all fours in a crouch start. Imagine just biting your nails and yanking at your collar outside a Slug and Lettuce when death is on the line, pathetic, you should be ashamed of yourself, you've brought shame to the name coward, a real coward puts in the hard graft when the time is nigh, you need to do recon for street furniture to bivouac behind, coat yourself in mud, squatwalk in a big zigzag.

Whilst the skittish children of the modern era such as ourselves would hit you with very abstract toys, coloured shapes, perhaps inspired by Bauhaus and connoting a willingness to embrace new and bold ideas, the pub drunk might not seek to convey his ideals through the toys he hits you with at all, maybe he'd use an Action Man for its density and reach, but never for its appeal to the id, he sees the physical but not the cultural heft. Pardon me sir, that toy you're hitting me with is steeped in allegory. The Bauhaus Child will have to wait his turn, but time is on his side.

Its a great irony that the flat roofed pub from which the pub toughy emerged and defends itself emerged from a thought movement closer to our own than to his, he is a monkey squatting in the temple ruins and as he takes his dying breaths in ignorance he might see us return, resplendent and anaemic in jumpsuits and helmet hair.

Not as grim, but the Clansman is one of the main locations in Still Game and in the flat-roofed estate/scheme pub genre:




Mister Six


Quote from: George White on July 14, 2023, 09:41:46 PMLong been obsessed with these but
I'm trying to think though - any standout usage of them in films and TV.

There a very well used on in the film Ghost Stories by Andy Nyman and Jeremy Dyson. Nyman visits Paul Whitehouse's character in bright daylight, very spoopy.




George White

The Kebab and Calculator in the Young Ones is an FRMP, isn't it?

George White


The Belgard Inn, Tallaght, now demolished.

dex

Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on July 14, 2023, 11:02:11 PMServed my time in them.

Although one place I used to drink in should've been a flat roofer, but had an angled Coral betting shop above it, which made it look like a Methodist Church.



That's got desolation written all over it.

baptist

The Clansman from Still Game and The Jockey from Shameless were FRMPs I believe.

beanheadmcginty

The best pub in the whole of London is a flat roofed pub. The Globe on Morning Lane. Get yourself down there on Friday karaoke night and you will have one of the best nights out of your life.

studpuppet

I always thought that the most un-flat-roofed pub in the country had some very flat-roofed energy going on.


TrenterPercenter

These all look mint.

Here is my old local



struggling to find a pic from when it was open (it's a youth centre now) but it looked virtually the same.

Sebastian Cobb

Never been in, but have cycled past this before, I thought it was derelict at first until I realised there were people going in and out.





It's seemingly a social club that was originally for people that worked at the Goodyear tyre plant.

pigamus

It's fascinating when you see footage of those pubs in their prime. They look so utterly unlike any pub I've ever been in. I mean the buildings still exist but all traces of the sixties and seventies have gone.

Sebastian Cobb

Mate took me to this one when I lived in Aberdeen.



Bogs still had loads of fag burns in the little plastic bit in the urinals and on the cisterns, despite smoking being banned about 10 years prior.

He recognised someone he went to school with so we played one game of pool before being stood right in the entrance smoking a massive zoot to the sheer indifference of both the staff and the locals. Was alright, but it did make the papers for fights and stabbings.

I think it's a co-op now.

Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: pigamus on July 15, 2023, 11:30:47 AMIt's fascinating when you see footage of those pubs in their prime. They look so utterly unlike any pub I've ever been in. I mean the buildings still exist but all traces of the sixties and seventies have gone.

I think it's sad in a way. They're not nice but they represent a time of town building when corporations at least bothered to factor in a social hub as part of their residents needs. If you look at them in their prime they were heaving and full of people of all ages. Something has definitely been lost and replaced by nothing better.

MoreauVasz

Christ... That 'social club' looks like the porn cinema from 8mm where they're all watching murders and sucking each other off.

Glebe


Dr Rock

Maidstone's estates were designed to each have a parade with each essential type of shops, and a flat roof murder pub. I wouldn't have stepped foot in any of them lest I be murdered, but they're all closed now so the council estate psychos have to go to central Maidstone to make that even less safe.

Kankurette

My ex-boyfriend lived near one in Withington. It had barbed wire on the roof. No idea why but it seems to be a thing for flat roofed pubs in Manchester.

MoreauVasz

Yeah... All closed, gentrified, or re-purposed.

I think the reputation comes from the 60s and 70s when they were the local watering holes for post-War brutalist estates.

In truth, I suspect they are no worse than any pub in a shit part of a run-down town. Most of those places have gone under now.

Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: MoreauVasz on July 15, 2023, 11:41:22 AMYeah... All closed, gentrified, or re-purposed.

I think the reputation comes from the 60s and 70s when they were the local watering holes for post-War brutalist estates.

In truth, I suspect they are no worse than any pub in a shit part of a run-down town. Most of those places have gone under now.

Yeah pretty much.

The Red Road flats even had an under-ground bingo hall that could house 1000 people and a pub.


canadagoose

Edinburgh doesn't really seem to have many of these left now. Most of them have been repurposed as something else or just knocked down entirely. There's this pub in Sighthill, the Silver Wing, which I thought was a Chinese restaurant at first, and which apparently was a bit ropey for a while, but it's allegedly quite calm now.



It's not got a flat roof, but it was right next to the old North Sighthill high-rise scheme (now demolished) so it would have been a pub of that genre.