Seinfeld thread 966966844758

[thr0b]

Easy to beat.

[sevendaughters]

Best secondary character is Estelle. The little factoid George gives when he says she's never laughed, and she just keeps that up all the way through.

[selectivememory]

Frank and Estelle both are amazing, but yeah I think Estelle is the funnier of the pair.

[El Unicornio, mang]

Top 100 Seinfeld characters. Don't agree with the top 10 order but nice to have a fairly comprehensive list

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-lists/best-seinfeld-characters-soup-nazi-26801/

[daf]

Decided to do a third go round watching this (must be about 10 years since I last did it). What was putting me off was the pilot. I'd have to sit through THAT abomination . . .

Anyway, I gritted my buttocks and got down to it, selecting the 'revised' version they later used in syndication - having previously only watched the original one.

I don't know if having the regular music on there was the difference, or maybe my absolute zero rock bottom expectations, but ... it was alright.

After the first sketch in the coffee house, nothing really stunk the place out - infact the bit in the flat where "Kessler" is asking George about trading, George's "I'm aware of you" and Kramer's joggly thumbs up was GOLD, Jerry, GOLD!

Also the bit after George confidently predicts all the possible greetings, and gets it completely wrong - another actually good bit!

[El Unicornio, mang]

I don't mind the pilot, but it definitely feels like a pilot.

The low point of the series has to be the alternative theme tune Jerry snuck in for the season 3 opener. One of the few times the execs were right.

[Proactive]

Frank and Estelle both are amazing, but yeah I think Estelle is the funnier of the pair.

One of my favourite exchanges in the whole show is between these two, George brings up Frank's sister, Aunt Baby, who died young.

Estelle: Frank, if Aunt Baby were alive today, how old would she be?

Frank: She'd never make it.

[Terry Torpid]

SERENITY NOW

[Armin Meiwes]

I don't mind the pilot, but it definitely feels like a pilot.

The low point of the series has to be the alternative theme tune Jerry snuck in for the season 3 opener. One of the few times the execs were right.

Oh my god I forgot about that abomination.

[madhair60]

holy fucking shit Bubble Boy, what a perfectly crafted piece of TV

[buttgammon]

holy fucking shit Bubble Boy, what a perfectly crafted piece of TV

Yes, I rewatched this recently and it's one of a few S4 episodes (e.g. The Outing and The Contest) which I think are basically perfect. The mean-spiritedness of the kid captures the spirit of a programme, but so does George's pettiness.

[Jerzy Bondov]

There is nothing finer, than being in your diner! - Jerry Seinfeld

[Oosp]

Just finished my last rewatch a few months ago but already thinking of jumping back in. It's just so amazingly great. Thank you, thread

[Gulftastic]

Yes, I rewatched this recently and it's one of a few S4 episodes (e.g. The Outing and The Contest) which I think are basically perfect. The mean-spiritedness of the kid captures the spirit of a programme, but so does George's pettiness.

George's tiny wave as Bubble Boy collapses is beautiful.

[Maureen Brontë]

The first time I saw the Season 5 episode with Elaine trying to get her new boyfriend Joel Rifkin to change his name because it was the same as a serial killer, I assumed they'd made the name up. They hadn't – the real Joel Rifkin had murdered 17 women, the last four of them in the year the show aired. Seems horribly misjudged to me.
I wonder if they got any flak at the time, or if there's anything about it in the DVD's Notes About Nothing.

[Dr Rock]

'THE CARD SAYS MOOPS'

[Terry Torpid]

Seems horribly misjudged to me. I wonder if they got any flak at the time, or if there's anything about it in the DVD's Notes About Nothing.

There was a fair bit of dark humour regarding serial killers across the series. The whole LA plotline for one, and Newman taking over Son of Sam's postal route.

Of course the Rifkin plot was shamelessly half-inched by CaB favourite Garry Glinner for The IT Crowd, where Jen dates a man named Peter File.

The only bit I find quite nasty is "Maybe a dingo ate your baby". I suppose it was probably intended as a dig at the evil woman who killed her own baby, and the ridiculous explanation she cooked up. She was acquitted, but a lot of people thought she'd got away with it. It was liked making fun of OJ. A bit dark, but at least aimed at a cold-hearted villain. However, the matter was finally settled in 2012 when the coroner made a conclusive report that a dingo really had eaten that poor woman's baby and she was completely innocent all along. The line hasn't aged well.

[convulsivespace]

There was a fair bit of dark humour regarding serial killers across the series. The whole LA plotline for one, and Newman taking over Son of Sam's postal route.

Of course the Rifkin plot was shamelessly half-inched by CaB favourite Garry Glinner for The IT Crowd, where Jen dates a man named Peter File.

The only bit I find quite nasty is "Maybe a dingo ate your baby". I suppose it was probably intended as a dig at the evil woman who killed her own baby, and the ridiculous explanation she cooked up. She was acquitted, but a lot of people thought she'd got away with it. It was liked making fun of OJ. A bit dark, but at least aimed at a cold-hearted villain. However, the matter was finally settled in 2012 when the coroner made a conclusive report that a dingo really had eaten that poor woman's baby and she was completely innocent all along. The line hasn't aged well.

It's just a line from the movie A Cry in the Dark, as with any other pop culture reference on the show.

The Joel Rifkin thing isn't remotely offensive either if it was a big news story around the time the episode aired, versus latching onto some obscure tragedy.

[Twilkes]

Apparently Joel Rifkin wouldn't have been known much outside of New York anyway, I'd bet five bucks they wrote it for his odd name more than anything. And the episode doesn't really address the killings at all as a subject. And people have been making Titanic jokes for decades and hundreds of people died in that.

[Maureen Brontë]

There were two or three strangulation jokes, but anyway, his name – which isn't really odd at all – not being known outside of New York isn't really the point. Imagine a British sitcom in 2021 making jokes about a character called Wayne Couzens.
I don't know, I can't pretend to be upset or avoiding the episode in future, but it just seems weirdly insensitive. Maybe something to do with some of the young women Rifkin decapitated and dismembered being sex workers, so not so close to home?

[Cold Meat Platter]

shite

[13 schoolyards]

It's just a line from the movie A Cry in the Dark, as with any other pop culture reference on the show.

Yeah, "a dingo took my baaaa-beee" was a playground catchphrase here (Australia) for years after that movie, mostly due to Meryl Streep's shocker of an Aussie accent. From what I remember pretty much everyone suspected she didn't do it - news reports claiming that the baby's name (Azaria) really meant "sacrifice in the wilderness" were a bit much - but the movie was so bad it turned what was a serious miscarriage of justice into a punchline

[Dr Rock]

[madhair60]

that was the scene that made me not like Newman

[madhair60]

Kramer's underwear slide-fall in The Pick is one of the funniest things I've ever seen

[madhair60]

also i'm sexually attracted to Kramer

[QDRPHNC]

Well of course you are, he's got the Kavorka.

[Maureen Brontë]

shite

I'm not happy with "I've never met a normal guy named Stuart" either.

[The Mollusk]

Kramer is exactly as weirdly attractive as his character is made out to be. Occasionally infuriating but enigmatic enough that you can't help being drawn to him. It helps that his wardrobe is superb as well, pretty much everything he wears I would love to own myself.

[The Mollusk]

Of course the Rifkin plot was shamelessly half-inched by CaB favourite Garry Glinner for The IT Crowd, where Jen dates a man named Peter File.

For an extra layer of shamelessness that name was first used in the Brass Eye special. IRL a paediatrician had had their home vandalised because of the tabloid lynch mob mentality, and in the Brass Eye episode Morris plays on this by reporting that a man named Peter File had been attacked.