James Bond

[El Unicornio, mang]

Live and Let Die is good, although it feels like half blaxploitation film. Gets bonus points for Jane Seymour, and Bond annoying the racists by getting off with a Black lady.

[shiftwork2]

Live and Let Die is good, although it feels like half blaxploitation film.

Well yes it was a partial bandwagon jump, like the kung fu in Golden Gun.  Suggested a lack of confidence which is amusing considering how many films were still to be made.

It's a 60s and 70s thing for me.  Post 1981 Bond seemed like a corset-wearing relic and an imposter.  Get back in the sixties you old fool.

[Norton Canes]

With the series reaching a watershed moment after No Time To Die, is it time to reset the franchise and bring it back to the 60's/70's/80's? That way, Bond can remain unreconstructed with no backlash. Perhaps the next instalment could be a portmanteau film with short, linked Bond escapades from each of those decades? Then it could be three hours long but not boring. 

[El Unicornio, mang]

Well yes it was a partial bandwagon jump, like the kung fu in Golden Gun.

And the Star Wars influence on Moonraker, which doesn't have any space stuff in the novel. In fact I think they took little from it aside from the title and baddie's name. Could be a good one to mine for the next film.

Octopussy maybe influenced by Raiders of the Lost Ark?

[madhair60]

jabes bomd

[gabrielconroy]

Do we know what's happening with Bond now that he died in the last one? Is the character going to be reprised by a 70 year old Mauritanian woman, or will it continue along the same trad path?

[superthunderstingcar]

Do we know what's happening with Bond now that he died in the last one?

Just have the new Bond carry on without making any reference to it, like in that episode of The Goodies after the one in which they all died at the end. If necessary, after a very narrow escape from death, have Bond quip "This never happened to the other fella."

[Blumf]

I would be up for a period set, true to the books, reboot. Sadly, I doubt it'd get people into the cinemas. Maybe a streaming service could do it.

[studpuppet]

I would be up for a period set, true to the books, reboot. Sadly, I doubt it'd get people into the cinemas. Maybe a streaming service could do it.

I always thought it would make a good period TV drama - maybe slightly sexed up like that ITV Ipcress File they did recently. A bit of cheap CGI means you can write off 4 1/2 litre Bentleys and show ballistic missiles leaning against the White Cliffs of Dover, etc.

[13 schoolyards]

I suspect doing a retro take on Bond would just show how well he works as a period character, which I reckon is the last thing the copyright owners want. Gotta keep Bond relevant and up to date by... I guess having him go rogue every mission and also every mission is somehow personal?

[badaids]

That's a UK Merchant Marine's uniform Russ.  Stop getting Bond wrong.

[Ant Farm Keyboard]

They will never do period pieces, as it wouldn't allow product placement, which basically pays for the marketing.

The next one will definitely be a reboot, except that they'll jump in medias res with a new Bond and a whole new cast for all the MI6 people, as it would otherwise make it look like it's a continuation from the Craig years, with all the baggage still attached.

[non capisco]

And the Star Wars influence on Moonraker, which doesn't have any space stuff in the novel. In fact I think they took little from it aside from the title and baddie's name.

Can't believe they left out the bit in the book where he drives through Maidstone.

Do they still show these uncut on prime time terrestrial TV, including bits like where he dismisses a woman from his company when Felix Leiter shows up by saying it's time for "man talk" and then slaps her on the arse accompanied by a foley noise that sounds like a gunshot?

[Bad Ambassador]

Shot in the arse
And you're to blame
You give Bond a bad name

[studpuppet]

They will never do period pieces, as it wouldn't allow product placement, which basically pays for the marketing.

Oh, I'm sure they could manage something with those still-going brands that Fleming used to pepper the novels with:

Spirits:
Gordon's
Smirnoff
Kina Lillet

Champers:
Taittenger
Veuve Cliquot
Bollinger

Whisky:
Haig Dimple
Old Grand-Dad Bourbon
Black & White Blended
Canadian Club
I. W. Harper Kentucky Straight Bourbon
Jack Daniel's
Suntory

Beer:
Red Stripe

Soft drinks:
Schweppes Bitter Lemon
Coca Cola

Cars:
Bentley
Aston Martin

Cigs (arsed):
Sobranie

Clothes:
Burberry

Toiletries:
Floris
Chanel No. 5
Macleans toothpaste

Watches:
Rolex

Breakfast stuff:
Cooper's Vintage Oxford Marmalade
Tiptree Little Scarlet Strawberry Jam
Fortnum's Norwegian Heather Honey

[Blumf]

They will never do period pieces, as it wouldn't allow product placement, which basically pays for the marketing

You say that, but pretty much all the big Bond brands existed back in the 60's and love trading on their heritage from that period. Bentley, Aston, Rolex, Breitling, whatever brand booze you're supposed to use in a Vodka Martini... (EDIT: @studpuppet got in with a much better list)

Basically, any trad fashion/luxury stuff would be up for grabs. All you'd miss out on is mobile phones and laptops.

It's a lot better prospect for product placement than some swords and sorcery, Shakespeare, or Jane Austin flick.

[famethrowa]

Don't forget the Smeckler's Powder!

[13 schoolyards]

The brands can promote themselves in a period Bond film, but they can't promote their latest watch or car or whatever. Supposedly it was a problem when they delayed the last Bond film during Covid, because suddenly all the movie marketing was promoting and tied-in with last season's products

[superthunderstingcar]

The trick is to not watch the latest Bond film until 30 to 40 years from now. Et viola, instant* period piece.

[SteveDave]

This is on ITVX now (I believe)

[Ant Farm Keyboard]

The brands can promote themselves in a period Bond film, but they can't promote their latest watch or car or whatever. Supposedly it was a problem when they delayed the last Bond film during Covid, because suddenly all the movie marketing was promoting and tied-in with last season's products

They had to upgrade through CGI the Samsung phone that Lashana Lynch uses in one scene.

EON doesn't spend much in marketing for a Bond movie, but they rely on brands such as Heineken or Omega that will use imagery from the new movie in their ads. Using only brands relevant in the sixties and seventies would put a severe limit to the number of companies they can work with. Think of the airlines, for instance.
And think about the audience being asked to be interested in some gizmo that was much beyond technology could realistically achieve at the time but is just something that everyone has on their smartphone today.

[El Unicornio, mang]

Tarantino's pitch for Casino Royale was setting it in the 1960s although he wanted to keep Brosnan.

I think also Nolan has been interested in making one but only if it's a period piece.

[Huxleys Babkins]

They will never do period pieces, as it wouldn't allow product placement, which basically pays for the marketing.

The next one will definitely be a reboot, except that they'll jump in medias res with a new Bond and a whole new cast for all the MI6 people, as it would otherwise make it look like it's a continuation from the Craig years, with all the baggage still attached.

I wouldn't have a problem with the MI6's staying on, especially Ralph Fiennes. They've got precedent with Judi Dench.

[Bad Ambassador]

The BBC Radio plays with Toby Stephens as Bond are very good direct adaptations of the books, period setting and all.

[superthunderstingcar]

Another reason I can't see them putting the franchise back to the '50s/'60s/'70s is that they have to decide how Bond will act in a period piece. Have him act like original novels Bond (or even Connery's version), as an unrepentant racist who slaps around the lesbians until they see the light (of his cock), and the series will get #Cancelled before you can raise an eyebrow at a scientist turning out to be "A woman?"
But the alternative is for Bond to act like he's a time traveler from the 2020s with values from our day, while all those around him act like they belong in the period - sort of like Life on Mars but with MI6 instead of the Met.

[studpuppet]

Another reason I can't see them putting the franchise back to the '50s/'60s/'70s is that they have to decide how Bond will act in a period piece. Have him act like original novels Bond (or even Connery's version), as an unrepentant racist who slaps around the lesbians until they see the light (of his cock), and the series will get #Cancelled before you can raise an eyebrow at a scientist turning out to be "A woman?"
But the alternative is for Bond to act like he's a time traveler from the 2020s with values from our day, while all those around him act like they belong in the period - sort of like Life on Mars but with MI6 instead of the Met.

The thing I've noticed recently is that there are more period pieces, precisely because writers can create unreconstructed piece-of-shit characters, and have more fun playing with their lack of morals etc.*
Let's face it, it's not John Simm's character that runs away with the show in Life On Mars, it's Gene Hunt that gets the second series.

_{*It also makes it easier to write if you aren't constantly wondering if access to a mobile phone might blow a massive hole in your intricately worked plotline.}

[Endicott]

Mad Men showed up the mores of the period and didn't get cancelled. It's still highly regarded as far as I know.

[Senior Baiano]

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[curiousoranges]

It also doesn't have Q in it.

[Senior Baiano]

Licenced to Kill (Captain Tom)