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Title: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on April 19, 2022, 01:46:53 PM
New thread as the old one is at 99 pages (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=91411.0)

Two hours until Britain Trump "apologises" for his lies and breaches of lockdown regulations. Wonder if we'll get any more fines for Johnson or Sunak before May 5th.

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris DePffell Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on April 19, 2022, 01:50:06 PM
hope he pulls through
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris DePffell Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: lipsink on April 19, 2022, 01:50:49 PM
He'll be getting the kettle on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r799U_-jAnk
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on April 19, 2022, 02:00:03 PM
Sometimes I wonder why I voted for the serial philandering buffoon DePffell in 2019, then I see that great big mini eggs mug with a tea-bag floating inside it and I remember how well he duped us all into believing what a man of the people he was. ah well. i am older and wiser now and more people listen to my LBC show than ever before
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on April 19, 2022, 02:06:42 PM
Say what you like about the man, at least he saved the country from communism and saw us, safely, through two world wars.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on April 19, 2022, 02:26:18 PM
Thoughts and prayers for his imminent execution

My defence will be to say that I didn't knowingly place him in a guillotine, and I will then enquire what my fine shall be.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on April 19, 2022, 02:41:17 PM
You're fine.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on April 19, 2022, 03:50:48 PM
Not sure whether the motion on whether to refer Johnson to the Privileges Committee, to be debated on Thursday, will make any difference. Even if it does pass, what difference will lying and blustering before another select committee make?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on April 19, 2022, 03:53:16 PM
This is quite astounding
Quote13% of the population have a favourable view of Priti Patel. That's fewer than think the moon landings were faked (16%).
https://twitter.com/Samfr/status/1516426322528120843?s=20&t=l799qCn8Cin18wB6ExGgYQ

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on April 19, 2022, 03:56:32 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on April 19, 2022, 03:50:48 PMNot sure whether the motion on whether to refer Johnson to the Privileges Committee, to be debated on Thursday, will make any difference. Even if it does pass, what difference will lying and blustering before another select committee make?


I think it's the MPs voting on whether or not he gets investigated by one of their special committees for lying to the House. 

As the tories have a 79 (IIRC) seat majority, if Johnson loses that vote, his days are over.  I don't think he will but it does put all the tory MPs in a bit of a quandary - how does it look in the constituency if you vote not to investigate?  Memories of Owen Patterson being hardly dry on the curtains.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on April 19, 2022, 03:59:07 PM
I think the next leader will be someone like Ben Wallace who isn't well known to the general public. If only 22% of those interviewed were unfavorable and 67% didn't know those are good poll numbers compared to many Tories.

If Ben Wallace went into coalition with the Lib Dems in the next election imagine that, the PM and deputy Pm looking like two giant babies in suits.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on April 19, 2022, 04:00:57 PM
Quote from: Buelligan on April 19, 2022, 03:56:32 PMI think it's the MPs voting on whether or not he gets investigated by one of their special committees for lying to the House. 

As the tories have a 79 (IIRC) seat majority, if Johnson loses that vote, his days are over.  I don't think he will but it does put all the tory MPs in a bit of a quandary - how does it look in the constituency if you vote not to investigate?  Memories of Owen Patterson being hardly dry on the curtains.

That's very true, Tory MPs might be being rewarded with dinners etc for their loyalty to Johnson but it is damaging them in the constituency and quite a few have small majorities. I think a lot of Tory MPs will be weighting up whether their support for the PM is worth it.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on April 19, 2022, 04:02:07 PM
Quote from: Martin Van Buren Stan on April 19, 2022, 03:53:16 PMThis is quite astoundinghttps://twitter.com/Samfr/status/1516426322528120843?s=20&t=l799qCn8Cin18wB6ExGgYQ

Yeah but she's established her smirky role as a panto villain which will play very nicely on the after dinner speech market. I'm the politician you love to hate!

Get your cheque books out JPM, cos this is gonna cost ya!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on April 19, 2022, 04:03:20 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on April 19, 2022, 03:59:07 PMI think the next leader will be someone like Ben Wallace who isn't well known to the general public. If only 22% of those interviewed were unfavorable and 67% didn't know those are good poll numbers compared to many Tories.

If Ben Wallace went into coalition with the Lib Dems in the next election imagine that, the PM and deputy Pm looking like two giant babies in suits.

Have an odd feeling that the next GE will be after the MPs come back from their summer holiday - which means they'll want Johnson to limp on for a month or two before they saddle up their new fucker, all spanking and fresh for the election.  What joy!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zero Gravitas on April 19, 2022, 04:06:05 PM
Quote from: Buelligan on April 19, 2022, 03:56:32 PMif Johnson loses that vote, his days are over...I don't think he will but it does put all the tory MPs in a bit of a quandary - how does it look in the constituency if you vote not to investigate?...

I'm not so sure on that, this has been spun out and talked around for so long even a finding of having lied to the house can be couched in philosophical mumbling about not knowing you were lying, or having a sincere belief you were telling the truth while you were lying and the splice point of knowledge, truth and very-technical-definitions-of-parties-at-that-point-during-lockdown.

Similarly easy to parry a no vote with the belief that we have the legal judgement and an apology, anything else is theatre: let's not waste time when we could be focusing on the war - anyone that asks for that reasoning will be left fuming, but fuck-em, they're the kind of people that ask.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on April 19, 2022, 04:10:28 PM
I didn't really mean that, what I meant was, if enough tory MPs are willing to stand up and vote to investigate him for lying to the House, it shows that his power over the parliamentary party is greatly diminished.  And that means, the tories will end him.  They always do.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zero Gravitas on April 19, 2022, 04:13:32 PM
What's power compared to usefulness, and if you can bumble though without this sticking you're still useful.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on April 19, 2022, 04:19:55 PM
You may well be right.  Whatever happens, we can be sure that the next Prime Minister of the UK will be a cunt, unless we all die first, of course.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Pink Gregory on April 19, 2022, 04:20:53 PM
Quote from: Ferris on April 19, 2022, 04:02:07 PMYeah but she's established her smirky role as a panto villain which will play very nicely on the after dinner speech market. I'm the politician you love to hate!

Get your cheque books out JPM, cos this is gonna cost ya!

Or will we see a new, ethnically diverse Monday Club emerge?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on April 19, 2022, 04:27:55 PM
Labour need to try and get every Cabinet Minister to comment on the scandal. None of them are going to be disloyal and whichever one becomes the next PM, the comments on the scandal can be used against them at the next election.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on April 19, 2022, 04:28:14 PM
Quote from: Pink Gregory on April 19, 2022, 04:20:53 PMOr will we see a new, ethnically diverse Monday Club emerge?

Nah, I think she's running her political capital into the ground because it's too much work to do a good job. All with an eye on the career afterwards: The One Show/Loose Women sofa, an LBC show, maybe a few books (kids ones, obviously, because they take less effort) and a board role or two at a bank or university.

All financially underpinned by speaking tours for large multinationals, of course. Why try hard when you can fail your way into that kind of gilded and lucrative lifestyle?

I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on April 19, 2022, 05:36:18 PM
Anyone else watching Johnson's half arsed apology in the house?

The MP for Rossendale and Darwen has claimed that his constituents will all agree with him that Johnson's apology was contrite. As if he can read all his constituents' minds on this.

Tom Hunt claiming that the debate on partygate plays into Putin's hands. As if Putin is scared in any way by Johnson being in power.

Something was going wrong with the cameras in the House of Commons at one point - did someone call Johnson a cunt and they had to censor it?

Labour should be taping PMQs and using footage of people like Tom Hunt licking the Prime Minister's arse if Johnson goes before the next election.


 
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on April 19, 2022, 05:38:27 PM
Sammy Wilson saying any objective listener will realise Johnson's apology is genuine. Knob.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on April 19, 2022, 05:41:29 PM
Throat rating 1/10
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on April 19, 2022, 06:01:14 PM
Seems like the plan is he does the apologising and his lickspittles do the "screw you, he does what he wants".
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Norton Canes on April 19, 2022, 06:05:11 PM
The next two number ones on the BBC FOUR TOTP repeats will be 'End of the Road' and 'Would I Lie To You?'. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zero Gravitas on April 19, 2022, 06:05:18 PM
He does this instance of apologising against a continuing background noise of lickspittles doing the "screw you, he does what he wants".
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on April 19, 2022, 06:07:02 PM
Boris should have taken his shirt off and stood there tweaking his own nipples, waggling his tongue about while making strange groaning sounds

Ben Bradley and that would still back him up
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on April 19, 2022, 06:12:04 PM
Richard Drax claiming it took courage for Johnson to go to Ukraine. He wouldn't have gone if there was the slightest risk of danger.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zero Gravitas on April 19, 2022, 06:33:34 PM
Starmer's response reminds me of a particularly talented and deep voiced year 6 child reciting the crimes of king Herod at nativity.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on April 19, 2022, 06:34:48 PM
Quote from: Zero Gravitas on April 19, 2022, 06:05:18 PMHe does this instance of apologising against a continuing background noise of lickspittles doing the "screw you, he does what he wants".

Why did you make the same post as me? Had someone else already said it?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on April 19, 2022, 06:35:54 PM
Fucker won't shift.

The only real hope is a bad result at the local elections and the Tories seeing their own seats at risk.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zero Gravitas on April 19, 2022, 06:37:13 PM
Quote from: jobotic on April 19, 2022, 06:34:48 PMWhy did you make the same post as me? Had someone else already said it?

It was meant to be right under yours for effect, while humorously changing it to be slightly more depressing.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on April 19, 2022, 06:41:15 PM
Ha! Fair enough!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on April 19, 2022, 06:43:33 PM
Why did it take until Stephen Kinnock, when half the House had left, to make the point we have changed Prime Ministers during wars several times? Why did Starmer not mention it in his reply to Johnson?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on April 19, 2022, 06:50:00 PM
Kinnock's a cunt anyway.  Heheh.  So is Starmer and so is Johnson.  A full House of Cunts, please gas them.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zero Gravitas on April 19, 2022, 07:08:54 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on April 19, 2022, 06:43:33 PMWhy did Starmer not mention it in his reply to Johnson?

On the one hand it's a concrete counter to their arguments and quickly closes off the feelies parade which is more valuable.

On the other it's playing into to the ridiculous idea of Boris Johnson being integral to the ship of state and Great Britain having a part to play in the Ukraine conflict above and beyond the workings of the MoD requisitions, shipping and ordinance expiry spreadsheets.

I'm feeling quite dizzy now.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on April 19, 2022, 07:18:39 PM
I think it's the gas coming off these lights.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on April 19, 2022, 07:26:28 PM
You can see spaffers plan is to try and sow the seeds for some helpful idiots going "oh ok he lied but I'm going to be really edgy here and say this doesn't matter because the MSM and woke-left are so fixated on it and that will suffice as some kind of courageous insight".

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Butchers Blind on April 19, 2022, 07:33:34 PM
You could find the corpse of Maddie McCann in his garden and cunts in that party will still defend him.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zero Gravitas on April 19, 2022, 07:38:11 PM
I don't think all of that gubbins is needed, Johnson being a liar is fine with the context of:


All well and good broadly calling that out as lies and an excuse wrapped in an apology, but if Johnson is already cheekily winking at it being an excuse wrapped in an apology the sentence before he makes an excuse wrapped in an apology it's not going to do any good, the punchline was the excuse which has already landed.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Cerys on April 19, 2022, 09:36:20 PM
I would like to change my celebrity death list.  Boris still dies, but won't be assassinated unless it's by his own pancreas.  In August.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on April 19, 2022, 10:50:41 PM
remember when Theresa May wouldnt fuck off even though she was a useless robot crushed under the increasingly ironic catchphrases shoved on her by the 2017 election team and the press who made her out to be the new Iron Lady? went on for fucking ever.

i dont think Johnson is going to have a ten-year reign but this is going to drag out longer than you can possibly imagine, like someone hitting your genitals with a hammer.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on April 19, 2022, 10:55:10 PM
Lovely stuff in the Tory meeting by the sound of it. Slagging off the BBC and Archbishop, banging the tables. Huzzah!

Rees-Mogg telling Marr he needs to get a sense of perspective when he talks about his dad dying.

Going nowhere, laughing at all of us.

But Kieth dunn a gud speech so all is good.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: SpiderChrist on April 20, 2022, 06:52:48 AM
QuoteStarmer urged Conservative MPs to seize the opportunity to get rid of Johnson and "bring decency, honesty and integrity back into our politics".

Fucking brass neck on this cunt.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Paul Calf on April 20, 2022, 08:15:58 AM
Seems like the plan is he does the apologising and his lickspittles do the "screw you, he does what he wants".
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on April 20, 2022, 09:05:09 AM
Johnson's not the only cheeky bugger round here!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Paul Calf on April 20, 2022, 09:08:08 AM
(https://c.tenor.com/Ngo5YoY7pOMAAAAC/snicker-muttley.gif)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on April 20, 2022, 12:06:42 PM
Don't know why I bother watching PMQs
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on April 20, 2022, 12:10:27 PM
lmao bozza boris just called starmo a corbynista
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on April 20, 2022, 12:26:54 PM
Sarah Atherton there has essentially just tried to credit the Tories for money Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney are investing into Wrexham and the football club.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on April 20, 2022, 12:28:28 PM
BackBoris, NeverLabour and Captain Hindsight all trending on twitter of course. we're fucked. (more so)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on April 20, 2022, 12:29:44 PM
i think this question talking about how my constituents all died in agony while the prime minster was windmilling his willy about will finally cause him to resign.

edit: it didnt
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: poo on April 20, 2022, 12:34:00 PM
Where's Lembit Opik when you need him
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on April 20, 2022, 12:34:46 PM
Pinocchio is immoderate language according to Pissboy Hoyle
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on April 20, 2022, 12:36:04 PM
Quote from: Rich Uncle Skeleton on April 20, 2022, 12:28:28 PMBackBoris, NeverLabour and Captain Hindsight all trending on twitter of course. we're fucked. (more so)

How does that shit make us more fucked? Or less fucked? Or anything?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on April 20, 2022, 12:40:34 PM
think "more so" was the wrong choice of words, more of a case of carrying on with the same.

disregarding manipulation/bots etc, if people are actually seeing this mess and their response is "I back Boris" then I don't think it's unfair to say we're fucked and don't stand much chance of getting them out.

yes I know i'm adding nothing. just more "i'd like to see Boris get out of this! oh." to the converted. having a shit week, and since my posts in these threads usually go untouched I thought it'd be a nice opportunity to have a vent I didn't expect to get pulled up on it for once, JESUS
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on April 20, 2022, 12:41:32 PM
Haha, conjuring the ghost of Corbyn and re-treading the "out-of-touch Islington elite" attack line from two years ago. Might as well start putting these up whilst they're at it.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/42/New_Labour_New_Danger.gif)

Tory councillors in marginals must be getting really fucking nervous by now. They've no answers for anything.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on April 20, 2022, 12:43:51 PM
The Speaker never does anything about Johnson not answering the questions he is asked or lying in Parliament but when someone rightly calls Johnson a liar he gets all huffy. The rules of the House of Commons need to be changed so the Speaker has to do more to make sure the Prime Minister answers the questions and is honest at PMQs, and I think there should be more democratic oversight of the Speaker.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on April 20, 2022, 12:48:23 PM
He didn't even answer questions that his fellow Tories asked.

Quote from: Rich Uncle Skeleton on April 20, 2022, 12:40:34 PMthink "more so" was the wrong choice of words, more of a case of carrying on with the same.

disregarding manipulation/bots etc, if people are actually seeing this mess and their response is "I back Boris" then I don't think it's unfair to say we're fucked and don't stand much chance of getting them out.

yes I know i'm adding nothing. just more "i'd like to see Boris get out of this! oh." to the converted. having a shit week, and since my posts in these threads usually go untouched I thought it'd be a nice opportunity to have a vent I didn't expect to get pulled up on it for once, JESUS

Wasn't meaning to pull you up on anything or contribute to your shit week, sorry. Just questioning who Twitter represents.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Dr Trouser on April 20, 2022, 12:52:40 PM
Quote from: poo on April 20, 2022, 12:34:00 PMWhere's Lembit Opik when you need him

Balls deep in a cheeky girl
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on April 20, 2022, 12:53:38 PM
Quote from: jobotic on April 20, 2022, 12:48:23 PMHe didn't even answer questions that his fellow Tories asked.

Wasn't meaning to pull you up on anything or contribute to your shit week, sorry. Just questioning who Twitter represents.

nah i'm sorry just having a whine
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Blinder Data on April 20, 2022, 12:58:22 PM
Until a credible alternative emerges (Sunak is now tainted) and he loses his touch at the ballot box (consistently bad polling and by-election results), he's not going anywhere.

There's also the war in Ukraine, upcoming Platinum Jubilee and the Queen's deteriorating health in his favour. Johnson is a rat - when backed into a corner, he will chew through anything to survive.

He's off to India so will miss tomorrow's vote on referring his conduct for an investigation; the notion of "cats away, mice will play" might make things slightly interesting. But sadly we're not quite at a November 1990 stage, when Thatcher hubristically went to Paris while fighting a leadership challenge.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on April 20, 2022, 01:03:43 PM
Why hasn't the Chancellor been asked to apologise before the House for his fixed penalty notice?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on April 20, 2022, 01:38:26 PM
QuoteA backbench Tory MP said he walked out of Boris Johnson's meeting with parliamentary colleagues following his Commons apology over partygate because of the PM's "bluster and pantomime"...

Sir Roger, a long term critic of the PM, said: "I stayed for three minutes and left. I didn't storm out in a huff.
"I found the tone of the meeting from the very beginning very different from the tone in the House of Commons.

"I'd gone expecting a serious meeting about serious issues.

"I didn't expect a lot of bluster and pantomime performance and I'm afraid that's what I heard and it seemed to me that my time was better spent doing other things.

"I did not like the tone of the meeting.

"I'm told that the meeting got more serious later and certainly some colleagues asked fairly searching questions.

"But what I heard, I didn't care for too much."

Asked whether he thought the PM did not take the issue seriously enough, Sir Roger said: "I think you could say that, yes."...

https://news.sky.com/story/partygate-boris-johnson-acted-in-heat-of-the-moment-says-minister-as-pm-prepares-for-further-grilling-12594188
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on April 21, 2022, 08:06:47 AM
Government in "cowards" shock:

QuoteBut the government has now tabled its own amendment to Labour's proposal, to say a vote on whether they should investigate should wait until the police have concluded their investigations and Ms Gray has published her report.

Conservative MPs will be ordered to vote for it - meaning it is highly likely to pass given the government's Commons majority.

The government said a delay will allow MPs "to have all the facts at their disposal" when they make a decision.

A Labour source said Tory whips "obviously knew that they couldn't vote this down" - adding that any MPs backing the government amendment would be "voting for a cover-up"...

And when will the full Sue Gray report be published? Probably long after Johnson has finally gone. Maybe 2025.


QuoteSpeaking on the flight to Gujarat, Mr Johnson told reporters he will fight the next general election and would not say if there were any circumstances under which he would resign.

"I think the best thing that we can all do is focus on the things that really change and improve the lives of voters and stop talking about politicians," the PM said.

The thing that would really improve the lives of voters would be getting the Tories out and a socialist government in.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on April 21, 2022, 12:53:22 PM
Government have done a U-turn and removed the tabled amendment.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on April 21, 2022, 01:16:50 PM
They've got a big enough majority to save the clown for now.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on April 21, 2022, 01:33:35 PM
Looks like a good bit of work today by Labour.  Chris Bryant was particularly impressive (Starmer not bad either). 

Also thought without spaffer and some o this front bench ghouls parliament was significantly better and dare I say working how it is supposed to work, lots of respectful discussion and you could see some cooperation occurring.  People often forget (including MPs) that parliament is not the government, it is is the sitting body of all MPs regardless of political affiliation set up to scrutinise the government and provide ascent to the governments bills.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on April 21, 2022, 02:27:28 PM
QuoteBREAKING
No further Partygate updates from Met until after May elections
The Metropolitan Police will not be issuing any further updates about the investigation into parties at Downing Street until after the May elections.

The force says the investigation will still continue during this time - so fines could in theory be issued.

But due to restrictions over communications in the run-up to an election, it will not issue updates.

Nice of them.

Purdah applies to police investigations, does it?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on April 21, 2022, 02:36:14 PM
Gives them some more time to remove bushes and benches from parks like their mates in Kent.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on April 21, 2022, 02:40:27 PM
If you are wondering what Johnson is up to, he's been touring a new JCB facility in Vadodara, Gujarat, owned by Conservative peer Lord Bamford who gave around  £14 million in cash and gifts to the Conservative Party since 2001, as part of his two day visit to India.

QuoteAsked if the PM was embarrassed to visit the factory at a time when the firm was accused of destroying Muslim homes in Delhi at the Supreme Court, the spokesman replied: "I think this is predominantly a matter for the Indian authorities. The PM was asked about this in his clip earlier this morning.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-flies-4000-miles-26761530
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: SpiderChrist on April 21, 2022, 02:42:37 PM
Quote from: jobotic on April 21, 2022, 02:27:28 PMPurdah applies to police investigations, does it?

"The pre-election period is designed to avoid the actions of public bodies distracting from or having influence on election campaigns."

Looks like it.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on April 21, 2022, 03:19:52 PM
Quote from: SpiderChrist on April 21, 2022, 02:42:37 PM"The pre-election period is designed to avoid the actions of public bodies distracting from or having influence on election campaigns."

Looks like it.

Was going to put this yes it does there is nothing unusual about this (well apart from the fact they are investigating the PM in the first place).
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on April 21, 2022, 03:24:43 PM
They can't be doing photo-ops with candidates, I get that. or endorsing them on private accounts, but they stop making announcements regarding criminal investigations as part of purdah?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on April 21, 2022, 03:34:53 PM
It's breaking fresh ground, never had an out criminal government before.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on April 21, 2022, 03:36:41 PM
It boggles the mind that people will vote for them. I mean, it always did, but now? I just don't understand people.

I suppose when your other options are lib dem or starmer it becomes a very unenviable choice.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on April 21, 2022, 03:55:14 PM
Quote from: Ferris on April 21, 2022, 03:36:41 PMIt boggles the mind that people will vote for them. I mean, it always did, but now? I just don't understand people.

I suppose when your other options are lib dem or starmer it becomes a very unenviable choice.

They appeal to the dog in the manger section of the English public who are happy for things to get worse for themselves as long as other people become even worse off. Sadly I think the dog in the manger section has got larger since the 1980s. A load of little Thatcher lovers.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on April 21, 2022, 04:08:30 PM
Quote from: jobotic on April 21, 2022, 03:24:43 PMThey can't be doing photo-ops with candidates, I get that. or endorsing them on private accounts, but they stop making announcements regarding criminal investigations as part of purdah?

It's not criminal investigations - it's anything from a public body that might prejudice a vote, it's that the criminal investigation involves the government that is the issue other criminal investigations will continue to be reported.  The press on the day of the vote will also not be able to refer to anything that might prejudice the vote - that is always what happens.  The whole point of purdah is really so that powerful institutions cannot prejudice the vote it is just on this occasion it helps the government(ish), it is a good thing (purdah in general not the consequences of it this time out).
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Flouncer on April 21, 2022, 04:10:00 PM
OUT IN THE STREET, THEY CALL IT PURDAH
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on April 21, 2022, 04:12:59 PM
Yes i understand that it's criminal investigations involving the government, not in general. Also agree regarding the point of purdah (welcome to jam rock).

These aren't CIs into prospective councillors though, but into No 10.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Blinder Data on April 21, 2022, 04:14:24 PM
The silver lining of the Met's decision is that a load of fines could arrive in the wake of some disappointing election results, which would raise the temperature.

Feels like a very bad day for the man, actually. Brexiteers denouncing him in the Commons, tetchy interviews with the media in India, incompetent and failed attempt to bounce Tory MPs into defending him. Let's see him wriggle out of this one!

You just know he'll try every delaying tactic in the book. "You can't sack me now because there's a: war in Ukraine; Platinum Jubilee; cost of living crisis; Queen about to die; World Cup on, etc."

The tone of today suggests we might soon reach a point when Tory MPs get rid of him without knowing who comes next - which would be fun.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on April 21, 2022, 04:15:45 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on April 21, 2022, 04:08:30 PMIt's not criminal investigations - it's anything from a public body that might prejudice a vote, it's that the criminal investigation involves the government that is the issue other criminal investigations will continue to be reported.

It's good in theory, but a criminal investigation into a standing political party can't have any convictions disclosed until after the election?

At that point you could argue that unemployment rates, covid deaths, anything could influence a vote against the tories and therefore the only news for the month running up to the elections should be:

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on April 21, 2022, 04:21:56 PM
Quote from: Blinder Data on April 21, 2022, 04:14:24 PMThe silver lining of the Met's decision is that a load of fines could arrive in the wake of some  disappointing election results, which would raise the temperature.

Feels like a very bad day for the man, actually. Brexiteers denouncing him in the Commons, tetchy interviews with the media in India, incompetent and failed attempt to bounce Tory MPs into defending him. Let's see him wriggle out of this one!

You just know he'll try every delaying tactic in the book. "You can't sack me now because there's a: war in Ukraine; Platinum Jubilee; cost of living crisis; Queen about to die; World Cup on, etc."

The tone of today suggests we might soon reach a point when Tory MPs get rid of him without knowing who comes next - which would be fun.

Not to tie everything back to trump, but he really demonstrated the power of having zero shame. People have short memories. Outrage can't last forever. You can basically do what you like as long as you refuse to listen to criticism and just carry on.

It makes a mockery of democracy and creates major cracks in our system of government that are probably impossible to fix, but who gives a shit about that? You're in charge!

If he wants to, he'll outlast this.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on April 21, 2022, 04:23:11 PM
Rees-Mogg knows that, and Gove. And every blue labour liar.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on April 21, 2022, 04:29:22 PM
Quote from: Blinder Data on April 21, 2022, 04:14:24 PMThe silver lining of the Met's decision is that a load of fines could arrive in the wake of some disappointing election results, which would raise the temperature.

Feels like a very bad day for the man, actually. Brexiteers denouncing him in the Commons, tetchy interviews with the media in India, incompetent and failed attempt to bounce Tory MPs into defending him. Let's see him wriggle out of this one!

You just know he'll try every delaying tactic in the book. "You can't sack me now because there's a: war in Ukraine; Platinum Jubilee; cost of living crisis; Queen about to die; World Cup on, etc."

The tone of today suggests we might soon reach a point when Tory MPs get rid of him without knowing who comes next - which would be fun.

I was surprised with some of the strength of the attacks on him from his own side.

But the police investigation will take forever then the privileges committee will say that he did mislead parliament but they can't conclusively say it was deliberate so no harm done.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on April 21, 2022, 04:30:07 PM
Quote from: jobotic on April 21, 2022, 04:23:11 PMRees-Mogg knows that, and Gove. And every blue labour liar.

From an organization standpoint, you are still in charge regardless of whatever scandal you've embroiled yourself in. When you turn up to meetings, you are the one being briefed and making decisions.

Parliamentarians are supposed to hold you to account but you're on the same team, so they won't. The public is supposed to hold them to account, but they're all so disengaged and jaded, they won't.

So after all the sound and fury of newspaper headlines (well, not the ones on your side of course), what can happen? Those headlines don't sell papers or drive clicks after a day or two so they have to move on. The public hate all politicians anyway so they chalk it up to experience and forget about it, your allies chuckle to themselves in the commons bar, and after all the scandal, you are still the one showing up to meetings, getting briefed, and making decisions.

It is all very depressing. The main problem johnson has now is the risk of being backstabbed by some other power-hungry tory, not any of the other checks and balances the system is supposed to have. He doesn't give a shit what you or I think, he's more worried about keeping fabricant onside in case priti patel starts getting angsty. Mad really.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Cerys on April 21, 2022, 04:46:37 PM
Well, at least they've voted to open the investigation into the lying cunt.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Psybro on April 21, 2022, 04:55:49 PM
Johnson's problem is very few of his MPs know what they're in power for, and unlike Cameron he came in with a specific mandate that his Conservative Government would be one which actually did things.  Brexit is done but they've manifestly failed to do any of the bits they never intended to do.  Due to ineptitude they've forgotten to even pretend to be doing anything and gotten shit at distracting the public by showing their arse constantly.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on April 21, 2022, 05:18:58 PM
Quote from: Ferris on April 21, 2022, 04:15:45 PMIt's good in theory, but a criminal investigation into a standing political party can't have any convictions disclosed until after the election?

At that point you could argue that unemployment rates, covid deaths, anything could influence a vote against the tories and therefore the only news for the month running up to the elections should be:


That's not how it works.

Public bodies have a months purdah when they are not meant to publicly release information that might prejudice voting.  The press only has to do this on the day of the vote.  Obviously the press can use it's privilege to protect the identity of anyone breaking purdah in the month before, it's just the institution as a whole has to be mindful of releasing any information that might be seen as politically motivated - that doesn't mean a blanket ban on reporting, also things like the ONS and lots of other public bodies are expected to be neutral in their reporting regardless of purdah or not.

Stop getting purdah wrong all of you (I've been purdah'd loads of times I'm so cool - basically you get an email saying purdah mate, remember, purdah).

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on April 21, 2022, 05:22:54 PM
Quote from: Cerys on April 21, 2022, 04:46:37 PMWell, at least they've voted to open the investigation into the lying cunt.

Exactly this is very good and will cause him big problems. Also as mentioned earlier lots of conciliatory discussion in the commons between all sides about him having to go, whilst most of his hoorah-henry lickspittles didn't even show up.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on April 21, 2022, 05:33:15 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on April 21, 2022, 05:18:58 PMPublic bodies have a months purdah when they are not meant to publicly release information that might prejudice voting. 

Yes, the second half of my post you quoted directly addresses why I think that's potentially not good and could be very easily misused.

Like I say - I get the value of it in principle, but I'm pretty wary of it (at best) because of how easily it can be used to cover things up. As with all similar laws, there's a chance of abuse of power. The Official Secrets Act was used to threaten the police who arrested Cyril Smith red handed in the 1980s, for example. I think it is still in effect actually.

Edit: yeah it is https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/17/met-police-cyril-smith-child-sex-abuse-official-secrets-act
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on April 21, 2022, 06:15:41 PM
I think you are talking about something completely different ferris (All them chaos emeralds has gone to your head).

It just means for a month twice every 5 years public bodies have to be extra careful about prejudicing voting behaviour.  The other option is that the rightwing press can lie, smear and make up that the leader of the opposition is a peado a week before an election.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on April 21, 2022, 06:28:50 PM
I relevant bit from a twitter thread on it all.

Quote5.2.2 Decisions must balance the need to conduct policing business with potential impact on the outcome of the election. For example, delaying an announcement could itself influence the political outcome or impede operational effectiveness.

There is an argument here that not releasing information is political interference, sure but releasing information is also political interference so it is about which politically interferes more, which for the met is clearly the latter. 
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on April 21, 2022, 07:17:52 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on April 21, 2022, 06:15:41 PMI think you are talking about something completely different ferris (All them chaos emeralds has gone to your head).

It just means for a month twice every 5 years public bodies have to be extra careful about prejudicing voting behaviour.  The other option is that the rightwing press can lie, smear and make up that the leader of the opposition is a peado a week before an election.

You are simply jealous of my Chaos Emeralds.

I think we are talking at cross purposes - I meant that, for a month (and the one that counts! Right before an election!), it has a potentially sinister use to suppress any news that might construed as negative. Then for the next 4 years and 10 months, the government can johnson (verb: to bluster and ignore) it's way through any scandals because it has fixed terms, then shut up the information network for another month prior to the next election.

You probably couldn't do it indefinitely, but people have short memories and I could see how it would have a warping, pro-government impact longer term.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on April 21, 2022, 07:26:18 PM
It's one of those things I've always found odd: "brought down by scandal" as if scandal is a constitutional or legal concept, or a person with a cricket bat that says "SCANDAL" on it and will give you a going over if deemed necessary.

You can just ignore scandal and it eventually goes away. It has to, for boring operational reasons - if you are senior enough, you are still the central authority who makes governmental decisions and papers can't run the same headlines forever.

Governor Northam in Virginia just ignored his scandals until they went away. My own former mayor Rob ford is another proof of concept - if someone's office is only policed by an honour system, then someone with zero honour can ignore historical convention and do what they like. If it wasn't for stomach cancer, he would have contested the next election and probably won. His brother used his fame to become the premier of Ontario.

Scandal is overrated.

Anyway I'm a broken record so I'll shut up now. My point is that unless machinating tories stab him in the back, Johnson will keep going because there's no real way to stop him, and isn't that the true meaning of democracy?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on April 21, 2022, 07:31:23 PM
Quote from: Ferris on April 21, 2022, 07:17:52 PMI think we are talking at cross purposes - I meant that, for a month (and the one that counts! Right before an election!), it has a potentially sinister use to suppress any news that might construed as negative. Then for the next 4 years and 10 months, the government can johnson (verb: to bluster and ignore) it's way through any scandals because it has fixed terms, then shut up the information network for another month prior to the next election.

Possibly, but institutions could also be used (and would more likely be used by the government) to propagandise the public in their favour prior to election.  The press is only under purdah for one day also.

The risks are far greater in removing it imo.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on April 21, 2022, 07:35:44 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on April 21, 2022, 07:31:23 PMPossibly, but institutions could also be used (and would more likely be used by the government) to propagandise the public in their favour prior to election.  The press is only under purdah for one day also.

The risks are far greater in removing it imo.

Yeah probably, no real way to say but I'd never heard of it until today (shows what I know) and reading about it makes me uneasy, to say the least.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on April 21, 2022, 07:36:02 PM
Quote from: Ferris on April 21, 2022, 07:26:18 PMAnyway I'm a broken record so I'll shut up now. My point is that unless machinating tories stab him in the back, Johnson will keep going because there's no real way to stop him, and isn't that the true meaning of democracy?

There is a way to stop him, vote him out.  If the May elections are poor for him and he then  the results of the inquiry come in, and he gets some more fines then it is hard to see how he survives.  That isn't to say he won't hold on, he will, and whats more he will still likely win an election but on a massively reduced majority and then he is done anyway.  He is supported by a load new blood cronies who are wedded to him in his death cult get rid of them and it's over for him. 

People just have to want this though and focus on this part of the plan.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on April 21, 2022, 07:53:09 PM
I think we're going back and forth about increasingly small differences but largely agree so I'll leave it there! Interesting stuff though, appreciate the back and forth.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: superthunderstingcar on April 21, 2022, 09:57:11 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on April 21, 2022, 05:18:58 PMStop getting purdah wrong all of you (I've been purdah'd loads of times I'm so cool - basically you get an email saying purdah mate, remember, purdah).
The New Avengers was alright, but I preferred the Mrs Peel era.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Blinder Data on April 22, 2022, 01:29:49 PM
Like many I've been swithering on Johnson's chances of survival, but I think I can see how he might be gone by the end of the year, even without a replacement lined up. We know that Johnson will not resign whatever he is found guilty of, so he has to be forced out. I think Tory MPs will eventually find the pressure from the media and public impossible to ignore.

In the next few months, we will have bad local election results, more police fines and a scathing Sue Gray report. Johnson will constantly try to shift focus but he will be unsuccessful and Starmer/Labour will benefit.

The priviliges committee has a Tory majority but will they want to look out of step with the public? Will they want to give the PM the all-clear, or is that even possible? I doubt it, so he will be found to have misled parliament. Men in grey suits put him under pressure to resign or at least set a date, he refuses, and someone (Jeremy Hunt?) stands to replace him. Johnson's support dries up during the leadership contest so he's knocked out and then it's a Tory bloodbath over who succeeds.

I could well imagine him in 2023 blaming the wokerati for unfairly kicking him out of office - on his new show on Talk TV :/
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on April 22, 2022, 03:41:34 PM
It is worrying how four of the seven MPs on the committee are today, and did Bryant say something about not taking part? They could just ask him to apologise again but I doubt it  as you say even with the massive Tory majority on the committee they will need to be seen to have done something.

I think Johnson's comments about how long the war in Ukraine will last are partly intended to try and buy some more time for himself, but will it work? I think once Johnson goes the Tories will try and revert to Cameron style Toryism which is slightly less open in its shitiness with less focus on attacks on "identity politics". It will still be shit for 99% of the UK but it might be harder for Starmer to fight against.

Wonder if Johnson will be on HIGNFY again. Probably not, more likely to have a show on TalkTv as you say or even GB News.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Cerys on April 23, 2022, 12:40:31 AM
Be great if after a vote of no confidence his inevitable refusal to step down results in the Queen being activated and sacking him.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: greencalx on April 23, 2022, 09:08:40 AM
Even better if it were her dying wish. That'd be one for the history books!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on April 23, 2022, 11:37:02 PM
From Dylan Jones, who employed Johnson as the motoring editor of GQ:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRDN0ijXoAEiz53?format=jpg&name=900x900)
https://twitter.com/BenKentish/status/1517939381557940228

Can't really get mad at this, if someone else did it as a lazy writer with no ambition to run the country my attitude would be 'fair play'.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Cerys on April 23, 2022, 11:44:12 PM
Quote from: greencalx on April 23, 2022, 09:08:40 AMEven better if it were her dying wish. That'd be one for the history books!

If she does one useful thing in her autumn years, it must be this.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: magister on April 24, 2022, 12:12:27 PM
According to the Mail on Sunday, Boris' Oxford-honed debating powers can be negated by a woman saying, "Oi, wanna see my pants?"

The alternative is that he's a turd given the most expensive educational polishing money could buy and is actually a bit dim.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on April 24, 2022, 12:15:15 PM
Quote from: magister on April 24, 2022, 12:12:27 PMAccording to the Mail on Sunday, Boris' Oxford-honed debating powers can be negated by a woman saying, "Oi, wanna see my pants?"

The alternative is that he's a turd given the most expensive educational polishing money could buy and is actually a bit dim.

I reckon both these things are probably true, just that Rayner isn't doing the thing they're accusing her of.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: pigamus on April 24, 2022, 12:20:41 PM
Up to now I think some Tories genuinely thought "it" would all blow over - not realisng that "it" can't because the story isn't really Partygate but Johnson himself, so this will just go on and on and on, because he's not capable of changing. And they're as sick of it now as the rest of us. But challenging him and getting rid of him are two different things - if they can't find a candidate to rally round he'll probably survive. My faith in them not fucking up a leadership challenge is not high.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: magister on April 24, 2022, 12:23:54 PM
Oh, I don't think for a second that she is.

Rayner left school at 16, so obviously there's no way she could outmanoeuvre this maestro of the debating chamber without using her evil feminine wiles.

Our Prime Minister. A dishevelled semi-priapic sex yeti. It's like being ruled by Winnie the Pooh's evil twin
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on April 24, 2022, 12:37:54 PM
A malevolent Mr Bean.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on April 24, 2022, 01:00:59 PM
imagine if boris could get pregnant

wait dont
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JamesTC on April 24, 2022, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: Ferris on April 24, 2022, 12:37:54 PMA malevolent Mr Bean.

That's just Mr Bean.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Better Midlands on April 24, 2022, 01:29:21 PM
Quote from: magister on April 24, 2022, 12:12:27 PMAccording to the Mail on Sunday, Boris' Oxford-honed debating powers can be negated by a woman saying, "Oi, wanna see my pants?"

The alternative is that he's a turd given the most expensive educational polishing money could buy and is actually a bit dim.

(https://i.imgur.com/LjHsxHu.png)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on April 24, 2022, 01:33:58 PM
That is so bizarre. I can only imagine a whip or something sent them both the same message to tweet by accident.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on April 24, 2022, 01:58:40 PM
I suspect they've been sent the same brief but are both so lazy they've not bothered to change it at all and have submitted it word for word.

Like this basically, but they have staff competent enough not to copy the first bit of the agent's message:

(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/football/2016/10/23/Screen_Shot_2016-10-23_at_14.38.02-large_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqzRytHSQbJOZN5HN52J50Yj3H3UgYFAqu431LH4AExEc.png)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JamesTC on April 24, 2022, 02:00:40 PM
Mail on Sunday = anonymous
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JamesTC on April 24, 2022, 02:03:52 PM
Quote from: Ferris on April 24, 2022, 01:58:40 PM(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/football/2016/10/23/Screen_Shot_2016-10-23_at_14.38.02-large_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqzRytHSQbJOZN5HN52J50Yj3H3UgYFAqu431LH4AExEc.png)

Yeah but when footballers do tweet themselves you end up with this:
(https://i.imgur.com/ej0cMx1.jpg)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on April 24, 2022, 02:05:00 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on April 24, 2022, 02:00:40 PMMail on Sunday = anonymous

I think the idea is he doesn't like the anonymous stuff on twitter sent by nobodies, but articles run by large tory tabloids are fine
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on April 24, 2022, 02:05:32 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on April 24, 2022, 02:03:52 PMYeah but when footballers do tweet themselves you end up with this:
(https://i.imgur.com/ej0cMx1.jpg)

Tagged himself in his own confusion. Very good.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on April 24, 2022, 02:07:34 PM
All I'm seeing is Wayne Rooney promising to read a little girl an efficient bedtime story. Can't tweet anything these days in this country these days.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on April 24, 2022, 02:19:04 PM
Quote from: Martin Van Buren Stan on April 24, 2022, 01:33:58 PMThat is so bizarre. I can only imagine a whip or something sent them both the same message to tweet by accident.
i can imagine nadine being so fucking arrogant and lazy to just long press the PMs tweet on her iphone and paste it into tweet
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Post by: Proactive on April 24, 2022, 08:33:41 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on April 24, 2022, 02:19:04 PMi can imagine nadine being so fucking arrogant and lazy to just long press the PMs tweet on her iphone and paste it into tweet
Genuinely don't think you can credit Dorries with the ability to copy and paste.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Psybro on April 24, 2022, 09:11:15 PM
The silly thing is that literally nobody thinks he's a good parliamentarian.  He's an after dinner speaker, he can't deal with hecklers at all.
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Post by: idunnosomename on April 25, 2022, 12:17:12 AM
Quote from: Proactive on April 24, 2022, 08:33:41 PMGenuinely don't think you can credit Dorries with the ability to copy and paste.
it is a hurdle i admit. maybe she's arrogant shitty and stupid enough to ask an aide to do it
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on April 25, 2022, 03:45:37 PM
Look at this cunt enjoying himself at Bury FC

(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2022/04/25/TELEMMGLPICT000293928929_1_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=1240)

Actually, that's a good image of him to cut out and photoshop.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on April 25, 2022, 03:48:48 PM
He visited Chatham Town FC a few weeks ago. The local paper reports that "he took a shot from the penalty spot. Photos presumably to be released shortly". As far as I know they haven't been.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on April 25, 2022, 03:52:54 PM
God if they thought that one was good enough to release christ knows what they looked like
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on April 25, 2022, 03:53:25 PM
TFW you sky a pen because Angela Rayner is sat behind the goal and you've convinced yourself you can see her fanny.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on April 25, 2022, 03:55:42 PM
Quote from: Alberon on April 25, 2022, 03:45:37 PM(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2022/04/25/TELEMMGLPICT000293928929_1_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=1240)

Last of the Summer Wine reboot looks shit.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Norton Canes on April 25, 2022, 04:07:55 PM
If anything needs a reboot it's the ball
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Dr Trouser on April 25, 2022, 04:09:11 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Prq9T6d.jpg)

no change, I can't change, I can't change, I can't change
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on April 25, 2022, 04:13:19 PM
Quote from: Dr Trouser on April 25, 2022, 04:09:11 PM(https://i.imgur.com/Prq9T6d.jpg)

no change, I can't change, I can't change, I can't change

Fat Lex
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Spoon of Ploff on April 25, 2022, 04:13:50 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/0vHo1t1.jpg)
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on April 25, 2022, 04:17:38 PM
He was presented with his own personalised shirt as well. And he got to put some paint on the centre circle of the pitch. Must be a novelty for his hands to have white stains rather than red stains.
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Post by: AsparagusTrevor on April 25, 2022, 05:42:56 PM
Quote from: Ferris on April 24, 2022, 01:58:40 PMI suspect they've been sent the same brief but are both so lazy they've not bothered to change it at all and have submitted it word for word.

Like this basically, but they have staff competent enough not to copy the first bit of the agent's message:

(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/football/2016/10/23/Screen_Shot_2016-10-23_at_14.38.02-large_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqzRytHSQbJOZN5HN52J50Yj3H3UgYFAqu431LH4AExEc.png)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/88/8a/13/888a13d0dfc4c13ea5a94d84d5d7321e.png)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on April 25, 2022, 05:46:51 PM
Don't worry about our boy, the Met have got his back

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-04-25/peston-metropolitan-polices-partygate-investigation-displays-puzzling-logic

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on April 25, 2022, 05:51:57 PM
Quote from: Spoon of Ploff on April 25, 2022, 04:13:50 PM(https://i.imgur.com/0vHo1t1.jpg)

Surely falling through the bar territory with that arm
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Bernice on April 25, 2022, 07:30:45 PM
Quote from: Alberon on April 25, 2022, 03:45:37 PMLook at this cunt enjoying himself at Bury FC

(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2022/04/25/TELEMMGLPICT000293928929_1_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=1240)

Shouldn't the guy on the left be out enjoying a fry up?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Psybro on April 25, 2022, 09:24:00 PM
Famously collapsing in disgrace under the weight of endless incompetence and financial irregularities, the reformed Boris Johnson recently won promotion from the Northern Counties West League Division One.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on April 25, 2022, 09:26:40 PM
This Rayner stuff is the real dead cat isn't it
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Kankurette on April 25, 2022, 09:35:36 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on April 24, 2022, 02:03:52 PMYeah but when footballers do tweet themselves you end up with this:
(https://i.imgur.com/ej0cMx1.jpg)
Or David de Gea tweeting about his favourite Naruto pairings.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on April 25, 2022, 09:50:39 PM
Quote from: Video Game Fan 2000 on April 25, 2022, 09:26:40 PMThis Rayner stuff is the real dead cat isn't it

This holocaust denial stuff is the real dead cat isn't it
This flaying tramps alive and displaying the stuffed corpses in cabinets is the real dead cat isn't it
This global thermonuclear war is the real dead cat isn't it
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on April 28, 2022, 11:30:32 AM
The latest Tory tactic is to get the police to reopen the investigation of Starmer seen drinking a beer during lockdown:

QuotePolice say they are considering a letter from a Conservative MP asking them to review their decision to clear Keir Starmer of an allegation he broke lockdown rules following Boris Johnson's Partygate fine.

Durham Constabulary previously said they do not believe any offence was committed in April 2021 when Sir Keir was pictured with a bottle of beer in the office of City of Durham MP Mary Foy in the run-up to the Hartlepool by-election.

Richard Holden, MP for North West Durham, wrote to the force last week asking them to reconsider in light of the Metropolitan Police's decision to fine the prime minister for attending his birthday bash in Downing Street...
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Post by: olliebean on April 28, 2022, 01:58:40 PM
It's a lie. Basically the fact they've acknowledged receipt of the letter is being reported as, ooh, they're considering doing what it asks. But they're not, and have stated as much.
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Post by: Better Midlands on April 28, 2022, 06:24:39 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/YU5QvHi.jpg)

QuoteBoris Johnson is to admit he was present in his Downing Street flat during the lockdown-busting 'Abba party' — but only in order to conduct a job interview with a close friend of his wife.

A government source told The Times that Mr Johnson has claimed he did not break the law because he was conducting a work-related interview with the adviser in another part of the flat.

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on April 28, 2022, 06:45:27 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on April 28, 2022, 06:24:39 PMbut only in order to conduct a job interview with a close friend of his wife.

I wonder how many of his ex wives have heard that one.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on April 28, 2022, 07:53:33 PM
He was only in there to get directions on how to get away from there.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzS0Lk5WkAMssKL?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on April 29, 2022, 10:04:29 AM
While Johnson and Sunak shrug their well-tailored shoulders over the cost of living crisis, today is the anniversary of the People's Budget, when Lloyd George and Johnson's hero Churchill taxed the lands and incomes of the wealthy to fund social programmes.

This is what Lloyd George said in 1909

QuoteThis is a war Budget. It is for raising money to wage implacable warfare against poverty and squalidness. I cannot help hoping and believing that before this generation has passed away, we shall have advanced a great step towards that good time, when poverty, and the wretchedness and human degradation which always follows in its camp, will be as remote to the people of this country as the wolves which once infested its forests.

I'm going by Wikipedia here, so they may be wrong but it is ironic the government is less progressive than one in 1909.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Budget
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on April 29, 2022, 10:54:22 AM
Daily Mail front page is claiming Kier Starmer breached lockdown rules by having a birthday gathering on September 2nd, even though we weren't in lockdown on that date, coronavirus regulations at the time allowed the gathering and the Daily Mail's front page on that day was shouting at people to stop working from home and go back to working in offices.

This is the same Daily Mail that was telling us to move on from lockdown breaches in response to Tory politicians in government actually being found guilty of lockdown breaches and receiving FPNs.

Meanwhile the Mirror reports that the Tory MP who wants police to reinvestigate Starmer's group work pizza had a group work curry in the same week: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-mp-who-wants-police-26826391

Is the Mail annoyed about Labour pledging to scrap non-dom status?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 01, 2022, 03:52:06 PM
A Tory peer has had their home on the Isle of Man raided as part of a police investigation:

QuoteThe London home of Tory peer Michelle Mone has been raided as part of a police fraud probe into multi-million pound PPE deals relating to a company she has been linked to.

The National Crime Agency is investigating deals by PPE Medpro, a company set up by a business associate of Baroness Mone.

Her £11m London home, owned by an offshore company linked to her husband's Isle of Man business, is one of a string of properties raided by NCA officers this week.

It is understood a special unit within the NCA have been looking into the allegations for a year.

PPE Medpro won more than £200m in Covid contracts from the Department for Health in 2020 after Baroness Mone referred the firm to the Cabinet Office via the so-called "VIP lane"...

Obviously having ones home raided by the police doesn't mean you are guilty of anything, but I thought it was still of interest.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/michelle-mones-home-raided-police-26827493
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 01, 2022, 03:58:52 PM
And here's another example of "cancel culture" not being an issue when it's not something that can be used against the left:

QuoteA charity that champions the employment rights of pregnant women and new mothers has been dropped from a government advisory board after posting critical tweets.

In recent months, senior Tories including the culture secretary Nadine Dorries and her predecessor Oliver Dowden have taken pains to position themselves as champions of free speech, decrying "cancel culture".

So it came as a surprise to Maternity Action, the charity said, when it was removed from the group tasked with advising on workplace discrimination after its director aired her views on social media about the limited scope of the board and a lack of progress.

Ros Bragg tweeted: "We have an advisory board looking at 'non-legislative improvements' to reduce maternity discrimination which will meet quarterly until March 2023. No action plan. No recommendations for legislative change." After highlighting recommendations from the sector, she added: "Disappointing".

The charity told the Observer that officials referred to the tweets when it was told it would be removed.

The Department for Business, Enterprise and Industrial Strategy [BEIS] has not denied the decision was based on Bragg's tweets...

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2022/may/01/government-drops-maternity-charity-after-critical-tweets
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Post by: Blinder Data on May 03, 2022, 10:28:49 AM
If anyone has ever wanted to see pig being roasted alive on telly, I would recommend Susannah Reid's interview with the PM on Good Morning Britain this morning.

The most jaw-dropping bit was when Johnson heard a tale of how an OAP sits on buses all day to keep warm and immediately responds to let everyone know that as Mayor of London he introduced the specific fare that allowed her to sit on buses all day.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1hweyUXoAAB9rj.jpg)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 03, 2022, 10:52:14 AM
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Butchers Blind on May 03, 2022, 10:57:36 AM
Even now having lived through all of it, I'm still staggered how this utter shit of a human being made it to Prime Minister.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 03, 2022, 10:57:59 AM
At 6.20 so far. Not happy with Susanna Reid's focus on how the refugees are women and children to criticise the visa delays - surely the visa delays would be just as bad if the refugees were men?

EDIT: Just finished it.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: olliebean on May 03, 2022, 11:26:16 AM
17:02 - "Do you know who's not getting their payments uprated in line with inflation? It's people on benefits. Why not?"
- "For the reason that I've given. We don't want to."

Sometimes he says exactly what he means.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 03, 2022, 11:38:39 AM
Apparently Johnson even lied about introducing the 24 hour bus pass.

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 04, 2022, 12:33:49 PM
QuoteWhen asked if someone using a food bank was merely "feeling the pinch", Environment Minister George Eustice told the BBC: "They are, yes.

I think most people using food banks are in a worse situation than "feeling the pinch"

QuoteIn an earlier interview with Sky News, Mr Eustice suggested shoppers could choose value brands to help cope with rising food prices.

Mr Eustice said: "Generally speaking, what people find is by going for some of the value brands rather than own-branded products - they can actually contain and manage their household budget."

While buying own value food is a way people can save money, I doubt that alone enables people to "contain and manage their household budget".
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: bgmnts on May 04, 2022, 12:35:51 PM
I feel like the only way to get these cunts to even understand what it's like to live as a poor person in a capitalist system under these horrid bastards is to just put them out on the streets for a few months.

Then we'll see who is just feeling the pinch.

HATE all these cunts. I hate them so much it's really sad.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on May 04, 2022, 12:43:14 PM
Imagine seeing Tesco and Sainsbury's panicking over Aldi nicking all their customers and thinking that people aren't already aware that there are cheaper alternatives to big brands.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on May 04, 2022, 12:45:49 PM
"Guys, I know things are tough, but have you heard of a little place called Primark?"
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Post by: Famous Mortimer on May 04, 2022, 12:46:10 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on May 04, 2022, 12:35:51 PMI feel like the only way to get these cunts to even understand what it's like to live as a poor person in a capitalist system under these horrid bastards is to just put them out on the streets for a few months.

Then we'll see who is just feeling the pinch.

HATE all these cunts. I hate them so much it's really sad.
I'm sure they understand how bad it is, they just don't care.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on May 04, 2022, 12:48:07 PM
"I've just heard about this great shop where you can get lots of household essentials for just one pound each. It's called Poundland. It was only founded 22 years ago, so you might not have heard of it."
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Butchers Blind on May 04, 2022, 01:06:52 PM
"Have these people not tried going through other people's bins?"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Paul Calf on May 04, 2022, 01:09:40 PM
"Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Mr_Simnock on May 04, 2022, 02:03:41 PM
Quote from: Paul Calf on May 04, 2022, 01:09:40 PM"Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?"

Hows the bunker getting on?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Psybro on May 04, 2022, 03:07:51 PM
I'm fuming that Eustice has waited until I've done my month's wages on Waitrose free range duck eggs to make an omelette to tell me this.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on May 04, 2022, 03:28:17 PM
We probably need a general Tory incompetence thread. Grant Shapps has just played a blinder.

QuoteSadiq Khan, the Labour mayor of London, announced today that the Elizabeth line - the long-awaited central section of the Crossrail project, linking the west of London to Canary Wharf and east London.

Grant Shapps, the transport secretary, claimed that the announcement was a breach of the purdah rules, that supposedly stop major announcements that could affect voting being made during the election period. He said he would report reporting Khan to the Electoral Commission. He said:

QuoteThis announcement is an act of breathtaking political cynicism by the mayor, breaking election rules on such announcements in an effort to garner votes the day before the local elections in London. I am therefore immediately referring this breach to the Electoral Commission for investigation.

   Londoners reading this unscrupulous headline grab might like to know that the government has poured billions into Crossrail to solve delays clocked up on the mayor's watch, while propping up a transport system hobbled financially by his chronic incompetence.

In response, Khan urged Shapps to "grow up", and said the announcement was made today by Andy Byford, Transport for London's commissioner, for practical reasons. Khan said:

QuoteThe decision to announce the opening date was made by the commissioner today for a very simple reason. We've only got 20 days to make sure that the rotas are sorted out, that the trains are ready, that the stations are ready, so that it opens on May 24. The sourpuss secretary of state for transport, I'm afraid, is another example of the government's anti-London stance.

Shapps subsequently posted his own tweet about the announcement, presenting it as a Tory achievement.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FR6TUtOXIAIEJk8?format=jpg&name=900x900)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/may/04/keir-starmer-boris-johnson-national-insurance-hike-election-uk-politics-live-updates

Presumably, Shapps will be resigning later on.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on May 04, 2022, 03:35:19 PM
For some reason transport secretary Grant Shapps is the only minister who usually does the government's media interviews these days
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 04, 2022, 03:57:55 PM
Not only are Conservative Party candidates able to call themselves "Local Conservatives" on the ballot paper but they can also call themselves "Conservative Candidate – More Police, Safer Streets".

It's all entirely legal but of dubious morality.

Meanwhile "Local Conservatives" try to distance themselves from the government. If they really cared they would stand for a different party.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FR6hoMXX0AE_Pmi?format=jpg&name=medium)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FR6KxSKXMAAvVLy?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 06, 2022, 04:59:44 PM
Quote@TelePolitics
🇬🇧🇯🇵 Fish and vegetables grown near the old Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan can be freely sold in Britain after the Food Standards Agency scrapped a rule on radioactivity levels in produce

I await the sales of three eyed fish as seen on the Simpsons.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 11, 2022, 11:26:21 AM
Gove doesn't think the PM should resign for breaking the rules he set and lying about it. This is what he said on GMB

QuoteFor anyone who has suffered during Covid, the thought that others broke the rules is undeniably painful and difficult.

But it is also the case that the prime minister was responsible for a series of very, very big decisions during the Covid crisis that meant we now look better than many other countries.

The idea that the prime minister should resign is bonkeroony.

Gove has also said that the government is no longer committed to its manifesto commitment of 300,000 new homes a year.

Gove was also doing silly voices while claiming that a story about a split between Number 10 and the Treasury was "over-hyped": https://twitter.com/lisanandy/status/1524298596224577536

Absolute turd of a man.
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Post by: Psybro on May 11, 2022, 11:31:58 AM
I sort of believe that going on national TV under the influence and making a fool of yourself is a misguided tactic with Gove, whereas with Dorries it can be taken at face value.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 11, 2022, 11:35:38 AM
Gove's interview can be seen here. He clearly made sure his tie was wonky before the interview as a distraction.


Gove is laughably claiming that Johnson "got all the big questions right" on things like the "escape from lockdown". We're being told to "look at everything in the round".
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JohnnyCouncil on May 11, 2022, 11:45:30 AM
Mad with power this set of cunts, they know it's in the bag until 2030.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: pigamus on May 11, 2022, 11:47:46 AM
Since he split up with Sarah Vine he has kind of gone mad hasn't he
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on May 11, 2022, 11:51:47 AM
We can kill as many of you as we like and make money from your corpses. What you gonna do about it?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on May 11, 2022, 11:56:43 AM
His lips are so grey now they're nearly a shade of green
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 11, 2022, 12:45:17 PM
Starmar's awfulness is partly why they are getting away with all this, he should get a peerage for services to the Tory Party.

Lord Starmar of St Pancras. The footage of him joking with Tories in the House of Commons is a stark contrast to his attitude to the left.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Paul Calf on May 11, 2022, 01:37:40 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on May 11, 2022, 12:45:17 PMStarmar's awfulness is partly why they are getting away with all this, he should get a peerage for services to the Tory Party.

He will.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 12, 2022, 08:18:24 AM

Tory MP Lee Anderson claims there is no "massive use" for foodbanks, claims his local foodbank is a "real foodbank" (what is he implying about other foodbanks?) and claims the Labour Party is "out of control" He blames the need for foodbanks on people not knowing how to cook.

Perhaps Lee Anderson should focus on his own expenses rather than trying to deny food poverty in the UK:

Quote...Now, as the Daily Mail reports, it's come to people's attention that the MP claimed almost £222,000 in business expenses in the space of 12 months.

The 55-year-old, who earns £84,144 a year as an MP, claimed £219,703.44 as business costs from 2020 to 2021, which is higher than the average £203,880 claimed by MPs for office, staffing, accommodation, travel and subsistence claims.

Journalist Liam Thorp was one of the people to post about the expenses on social media, writing: "Lee Anderson MP, who today said poor people forced to use foodbanks 'cannot cook or budget properly' claimed £222,000 in expenses in 2020/21 - including £4,100 on travel and 'subsistence'. This was some way higher than the average MP expense claim...

https://www.indy100.com/politics/tory-lee-anderson-budget-expenses
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on May 12, 2022, 08:55:47 AM
Guillotine now, please.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 12, 2022, 10:53:28 AM
Another 50 covid FPNS issued.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Butchers Blind on May 12, 2022, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on May 12, 2022, 10:53:28 AMAnother 50 covid FPNS issued.

"...there's a war on... concentrating on the important issues... he's apologised... time to move on.... etc"

I hate these cunts.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on May 12, 2022, 11:28:05 AM
This wankpuffin is surely on the ropes now. Think he's just one Marina Hyde column and a few SuperTankie tik toks away from oblivion. It's curtains for you, Alexander deBunter!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 12, 2022, 11:34:18 AM
Talking of the "tickytock", as it was called in Tall Girl 2, doesn't the government have it's own TickTok now or something ghastly like that?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on May 12, 2022, 11:36:19 AM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on May 12, 2022, 11:34:18 AMTalking of the "tickytock", as it was called in Tall Girl 2, doesn't the government have it's own TickTok now or something ghastly like that?

Therese Coffey doing the Big Bank Challenge.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on May 12, 2022, 11:39:39 AM
Gove's sorta thing I think. He's basically a minister for partying down now
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: pigamus on May 13, 2022, 07:29:46 AM
John Crace in the Guardian straight out accusing Gove of a cocaine binge.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 13, 2022, 08:22:17 AM
Johnson's latest plan to appeal to his base is to call for 91,000 civil servant jobs to be cut, claiming it will reduce the cost of living. I think some of the job cuts will involve recruitment freezes but clearly there will be some redundancies. All this will do is increase unemployment and increase the cost of living for those made redundant. Although Tory voters mostly hate public sector workers so they will support it.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Paul Calf on May 13, 2022, 09:49:02 AM
Tories hate people who work for a living, which includes most of their voters. Tories have found a way to congratulate people for despising themselves.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Beagle 2 on May 13, 2022, 10:03:48 AM
The only Tory voting civil servants I've ever met are the ones at the top of the tree - i.e. the most pointless wastes of public money.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 13, 2022, 11:22:37 AM
(https://www.dogsonacid.com/attachments/1652437194595-png.246590/)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Cuellar on May 13, 2022, 11:48:47 AM
Yes lad
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zero Gravitas on May 13, 2022, 12:02:05 PM
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on May 13, 2022, 11:22:37 AM(https://www.dogsonacid.com/attachments/1652437194595-png.246590/)

(https://i.imgur.com/mVIG2KV.jpg)
Is it just me or is he in the early stages of the transformation?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Butchers Blind on May 13, 2022, 12:03:37 PM
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on May 13, 2022, 11:22:37 AM(https://www.dogsonacid.com/attachments/1652437194595-png.246590/)

They. Are. Laughing. At. You.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 13, 2022, 12:05:09 PM
Quote from: Zero Gravitas on May 13, 2022, 12:02:05 PM(https://i.imgur.com/mVIG2KV.jpg)
Is it just me or is he in the early stages of the transformation?

looks like a Patrick Fabian clone that was taken out of the machine too early.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on May 13, 2022, 12:45:16 PM
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on May 13, 2022, 12:05:09 PMlooks like a Patrick Fabian clone that was taken out of the machine too early.

Better Cull 'em All
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on May 13, 2022, 01:50:14 PM
i mean im not surprised at all by the flippancy but that they actually said "dear leader" took me aback a bit
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 13, 2022, 01:52:37 PM
They are now claiming someone at the charity wrote that not Dowden.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on May 13, 2022, 01:54:55 PM
I kind of assumed he hadn't written it. It may be a sarcastic pisstake actually, if the charity isnt run by conservatives
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on May 13, 2022, 02:12:35 PM
Maybe one for the Earth Shattering Local News thread, but there was a story of a mildly satirical tin of beans found in a Tesco a few days ago.

(https://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/resources/images/13760832.jpg?type=responsive-gallery-fullscreen)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: superthunderstingcar on May 13, 2022, 03:51:28 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on May 13, 2022, 01:50:14 PMi mean im not surprised at all by the flippancy but that they actually said "dear leader" took me aback a bit
I thought the phrase "dear leader" was exclusively reserved for cunts to use when comparing Jeremy Corbyn to Chairman Mao.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on May 13, 2022, 04:53:45 PM
It was the most common title used in North Korea to Kim Jong-Il while he was alive for the avoidance of doubt. It's hard to imagine anyone using it without knowingly being ironic.

Really all Jay Rayner is propogating is pretty much the same bit of anti-Tory snark his twitter circle revels in, now that their hostility towards the alternative has got them exactly what they wanted.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 13, 2022, 07:44:59 PM
Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe and her family, along with her MP, met with Johnson today.

According to her MP:

QuoteNazanin used the opportunity to tell him exactly how bad things had been for her and the fact that the words that he had used about her training journalists had haunted her for four-and-a-half years.

So she didn't mince words if you like and she told it as it was.

Will the Johnsom supporters on social media try to smear her again?


Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JohnnyCouncil on May 14, 2022, 07:40:43 AM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on May 13, 2022, 08:22:17 AMAll this will do is increase unemployment and increase the cost of living for those made redundant. Although Tory voters mostly hate public sector workers so they will support it.

Sadly, I think the consequence of this will be problems with the departments where the cuts take place and then they'll outsource the work, standards and accountability to the tax payer will decline and the costs will rise.

It's literally the only thing they know how to do.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: greencalx on May 14, 2022, 08:28:51 AM
Hiring someone in-house to do a job = waste.
Outsourcing to an outfit that takes a cut for shareholders = not waste.

"Ah but it's cheaper overall" they say. If it is, that's usually because standards have massively lowered.

Perhaps the market could decide MP salaries?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 14, 2022, 10:29:58 AM
It's frustrating how the point that cutting civil servant jobs will actually cost the public more through outsourcing (and tens of thousands of civil servants having less disposable income so spending less, therefore meaning the economoy will be less healthy) is not being made in the media.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 14, 2022, 11:24:50 AM
I don't know how Johnson thinks he has the right to tell others what to do but apparently he seems to think that because he is too lazy to do work while at home other people shouldn't be working from home.

Quote...Speaking to the Daily Mail the prime minister said he believed technology such as Zoom and Microsoft Teams was being used as 'an excuse for people to stay at home'.

'My experience of working from home is you spend an awful lot of time making another cup of coffee and then, you know, getting up, walking very slowly to the fridge, hacking off a small piece of cheese, then walking very slowly back to your laptop and then forgetting what it was you're doing,' Mr Johnson said.

'We need to get back into the habit of getting into the office.

'There will be lots of people who disagree with me, but I believe people are more productive, more energetic, more full of ideas, when they are surrounded by other people,' he said...

If Johnson was working like that when he was working from home as PM it's another reason for him to resign.

This has been reported in the Metro with the fawning headline "Boris wants people back in offices and not at home 'raiding the fridge'". The comments below the article are all disagreeing with Johnson, which is good.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on May 14, 2022, 11:37:45 AM
No way this tubby cunt is "hacking off a small piece of cheese". He's biting into it like an apple
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 14, 2022, 11:41:38 AM
It's quite concerning that the person running the country is happy to portray himself having the memory of a goldfish, the work ethic of Ignatius Jacques Reilly and the self-discipline of Micky Pearce.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on May 14, 2022, 12:13:18 PM
'My experience of working from home is you spend an awful lot of time snorting Russian cocaine and then, you know, getting up, staggering to the fridge, guzzling oysters with white truffle oil, then oozing back to your laptop and then forgetting which porn site it was you were even wanking over,' Mr Johnson said. 'But when you write that up make it whatever paupers eat. A block of that yellow stuff. I want to say chudge?'
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: olliebean on May 14, 2022, 03:56:31 PM
Quote from: greencalx on May 14, 2022, 08:28:51 AMHiring someone in-house to do a job = waste.
Outsourcing to an outfit that takes a cut for shareholders = not waste.

"Ah but it's cheaper overall" they say. If it is, that's usually because standards have massively lowered.

Perhaps the market could decide MP salaries?

Remember, that's "Outsourcing to an outfit that takes a cut for shareholders, and is also utterly incapable of doing the job efficiently or effectively because their only qualification is having given money to the Tory party."
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 16, 2022, 04:20:20 PM
QuoteA government minister has suggested that people struggling with the cost of living could take on more hours or move to a better-paid job.

Rachel Maclean, the safeguarding minister, told Sky News' Kay Burley that those were some of the ways households could "protect themselves" as prices soar.

As if people who are able to take on more hours haven't already though of this. As if people who have the experience for better paid jobs arent already looking for them.

They are happy to demonstrate they think the public are stupid.

What advice will we see next?

"Do not store pound coins under your foreskin. Shops may not want to accept them if they smell of your knob and are covered in smegma."

"Consider not buying lots of shirts just so you can tear them open to reveal a Superman costume. You may enjoy pretending to be Superman but consider getting some kind of velcro shirt."

"Consider making friends with a Tory MP in order to ensure your firm gets better access to government contracts."
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Blumf on May 16, 2022, 04:28:47 PM
"If you can't afford bread, consider eating cake instead"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on May 16, 2022, 05:01:56 PM
"Things are costing more money, so might we recommend you make more money.



Have you tried that?"

PRICKS.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 16, 2022, 05:04:50 PM
Have they suggested living an idyllic hard-working life in a van yet?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zero Gravitas on May 16, 2022, 05:11:15 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on May 16, 2022, 04:20:20 PM"Do not store pound coins under your foreskin. Shops may not want to accept them if they smell of your knob and are covered in smegma."

They've no choice, legal tender up to an unlimited amount, perhaps in Scotland they're free to quibble but not here!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 17, 2022, 08:42:37 AM
Jacob Rees Mogg leading the way in encouraging people to get back in the office with his lack of a computer on his desk:

Quote@christopherhope
No computer clogs up ⁦
@Jacob_Rees_Mogg
⁩'s neat desk in Whitehall. Just a carriage clock, 'in' and 'out' trays, some writing paper and a box of Crème Eggs. Old paintings on the wall. This is office life as it should be!

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on May 17, 2022, 09:26:12 AM
Smashes the creme eggs onto the writing paper, times how long it takes and then has a wank over an old painting.

*Rule Britannia plays*
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 19, 2022, 11:18:14 AM
QuotePolice have closed their investigation into breaches of Covid rules in and around Downing Street, with further fines issued.

The Met said the inquiry, which began in January, had resulted in a total of 126 people being fined for events across eight different dates...

The ending of the police inquiry paves the way for the publication of the full report by senior civil servant Sue Gray into lockdown gatherings.

The BBC understands that the Cabinet Office hopes the report will come out within the next couple of weeks.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on May 19, 2022, 11:21:11 AM
Can't beleive the Met would take part in a cover up.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on May 19, 2022, 11:23:04 AM
Centrist disappointment when Sue Gray report is just variations on "hope he pulls through" for 500 pages
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 19, 2022, 01:47:53 PM
fuck centrists this is a stitch up and an insult to everyone.  People need to focus on getting rid of this government it is in centrists, leftwingers and anyone else possessed of any decency's interest to get rid of this government.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on May 19, 2022, 01:49:52 PM
Yeah the corrupt links between the police and the Tory party aren't really centrist issues.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 19, 2022, 01:51:49 PM
Laughable that Johnson only gets one covid fine.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on May 19, 2022, 02:34:45 PM
He'll be out by Monday
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Paul Calf on May 19, 2022, 03:37:22 PM
Johnson out on a tag.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 19, 2022, 04:52:29 PM
Incredible.  Seriously incredible.  A day of a few people being angry on the radio and then that will be it "move on".  Seems to suit lots of people in fact it will be Labours fault some how for ever bringing it up, it's great now the leader of the opposition can be attacked in parliament for being under police investigation.  Really great.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: bgmnts on May 19, 2022, 04:55:52 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 19, 2022, 01:47:53 PMfuck centrists this is a stitch up and an insult to everyone.  People need to focus on getting rid of this government it is in centrists, leftwingers and anyone else possessed of any decency's interest to get rid of this government.

I don't see the motivation for a centrist to depose this government to be honest.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Famous Mortimer on May 19, 2022, 05:17:47 PM
It's nice that we're all learning that rules governing people in power are exactly as useful as the people in power want them to be.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 19, 2022, 05:18:11 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on May 19, 2022, 04:55:52 PMI don't see the motivation for a centrist to depose this government to be honest.

Yes but that says more about you than them.  Of course centrists will want the end of this government they didn't like Corbyn, that doesn't mean they like Johnson.  They, like you don't think Starmer can win, didn't think Corbyn would win, they weren't aligned with Corbyn, had some clashes with Corbynites, got the hump and then idiotically ended up just doing exactly what the Tories wanted of them and regurgitated and added to propaganda taking votes away from an alternate to the Tories.  These fuckwits in many cases still voted for Corbyn but couldn't help themselves but add to noise that just aided the Tories.  They were more focused on kicking lumps out of people that are closer to them politically and venting their anger than getting rid of the Tories.  It's an idiotic thing to do that people keep doing again, again and again then asking why everything is so shit.

Is it really more preferable to be able to go "I was right about centrists" than getting rid of a government behaving like they are.  What do they need to do to get people back to their senses? centrists, greens, libs, left-wingers even some people that were tory wets you need all of them together to get rid of this shitshow so the sooner everyone gets on with that job (because it is the only way regardless of who is leading the Labour Party) the better.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Blinder Data on May 19, 2022, 06:36:57 PM
it's incredible that he won't get any more fines! the public deserve to know how the met have decided that.

there's still the sue gray report and parliamentary inquiry to conclude. Tory MPs aren't happy with him, they just don't know who to replace him with. it feels a bit like Gordon Brown's last couple of years as PM. maybe they'll be pushed into action, if not he's talking the Tory party down with him.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on May 19, 2022, 07:06:58 PM
I don't think a centrist problem with Corbyn was that they thought he COULDN'T win. They would have expended a lot less energy making sure he wouldn't win had that been the case.

Out of Corbyn and Johnson they picked Johnson. And some admit that.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 19, 2022, 07:12:24 PM
Quote from: jobotic on May 19, 2022, 07:06:58 PMI don't think a centrist problem with Corbyn was that they thought he COULDN'T win. They would have expended a lot less energy making sure he wouldn't win had that been the case.

Out of Corbyn and Johnson they picked Johnson. And some admit that.

Not all of them even Arch-centrist James O'Brien voted Corbyn of course some of them abstained or whatever, but sure they could be argued to have picked Johnson by default........which is exactly what some people on the left are doing now.

This is the problem, it can be there turn again next time, and on and on....

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 19, 2022, 07:15:14 PM
Quote from: Blinder Data on May 19, 2022, 06:36:57 PMit's incredible that he won't get any more fines! the public deserve to know how the met have decided that.

there's still the sue gray report and parliamentary inquiry to conclude. Tory MPs aren't happy with him, they just don't know who to replace him with. it feels a bit like Gordon Brown's last couple of years as PM. maybe they'll be pushed into action, if not he's talking the Tory party down with him.

Nah not Gordon Brown, he didn't have any friends in the press the Tories can spin this, they'll win the next election, reset and tell everyone they've changed, people should know this by now.  It's all divide and conquer they will find something, some group, that is why it is imperative everyone gets their heads screwed on asap and nukes this shitfest from space at the first possible opportunity.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: bgmnts on May 19, 2022, 07:21:38 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 19, 2022, 05:18:11 PMYes but that says more about you than them.  Of course centrists will want the end of this government they didn't like Corbyn, that doesn't mean they like Johnson.  They, like you don't think Starmer can win, didn't think Corbyn would win.

Well for one, I think Starmer can technically 'win' because the tories are finding ot hard to get worse and worse but centrism and right wing always align. History shows us this.

The fact is they had the choice of Johnson and Corbyn (i.e right wing and left wing) and yet again they chose right wing.

Change will only come from extreme measures. This milquetoast approach wont do fuck all I'm sorry.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on May 19, 2022, 07:34:26 PM
Centrists didn't like Corbyn because if you peek under the aesthetics, the fact is they don't much care for redistributive or uplifting economic policy. They want a social justice based liberal/socdem party based on diversity and inclusivity across social strata, not a radical shake-up to try and destratify UK society. They dream of a culture of fairness rather than an equal and just world. Some of the older Good People remember when social mobility was a thing and they don't like that memory much. It's boring talk anyway, what's on Netflix.

The more precarious the middle class becomes, the less they like the idea of being around the poor. They didn't want Corbyn to win, they don't like those kind of ideas to be in circulation much at all. The educated good people look a lot less educated and good when there is something like Corbyn or Sanders in the offing. The fact that noble political movements are always highly flawed turns middle class scolds and bores into J B Priestly characters in double quick time.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on May 19, 2022, 07:48:25 PM
Genuinely don't understand where the motivation for a centrist party or their supporters to depose the tories is supposed to come from so long as funding rolls in, thinktank and NGO jobs are still there. The Chuck and Nancy-ification of UK politics. So long as a centrist can still call another centrist a centrist on the social media and get paid for writing some "there is no universal or impartial truth" wank in a book or website, they're happy as fucking larry.

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 19, 2022, 08:33:23 PM
Quote@skytv
#ThisEngland, based on Boris Johnson's tumultuous first months as UK Prime Minister starring BAFTA and Academy Award-winner Kenneth Branagh. #UnmissableSky

https://twitter.com/skytv/status/1526869375550119937
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 19, 2022, 08:39:15 PM
Meanwhile Sunak has promised to cut taxes for business in his autumn budget ""We need you to invest more, train more and innovate more...we will cut your taxes to encourage you to do all those things"

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Toxteth OGrady on May 19, 2022, 10:00:53 PM
My fuckin arse they'll do any of those things
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 19, 2022, 10:05:15 PM
Well exactly. He's just trying to woo the wealthy.

Does astonish me how little anger there seems to be towards the government regarding the cost of living. Where are the demonstrations?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: rack and peanut on May 20, 2022, 02:56:59 AM
June 18th, London
https://www.tuc.org.uk/DemandBetter

Previous demos
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/feb/12/uk-cost-of-living-protesters-demonstrate-peoples-assembly

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/protests-uk-government-cost-of-living-b2049764.html





Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: olliebean on May 20, 2022, 11:46:22 AM
The line I keep hearing now seems to be, well the rules were stupid anyway, it's ridiculous that anyone was fined and it's time to move on, oh but by the way Keir Starmer should still resign for merely having been accused of breaking these stupid rules.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: lipsink on May 20, 2022, 11:55:34 AM
That'll be great comfort for all those people who followed the rules and didn't get to see loved ones in person before they died. "The rules were stupid, you idiot! You didn't actually have to follow them!"

Does this mean the people who received fines for breaking the rules will be reimbursed?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 20, 2022, 01:07:36 PM
I'm sure we will all be congratulating Sunak and his wife for making the Sunday Times Rich List. What a man of the people the Chancellor is.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: olliebean on May 20, 2022, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: lipsink on May 20, 2022, 11:55:34 AMThat'll be great comfort for all those people who followed the rules and didn't get to see loved ones in person before they died. "The rules were stupid, you idiot! You didn't actually have to follow them!"

Does this mean the people who received fines for breaking the rules will be reimbursed?

I've seen it being proposed, but it felt more like the motivation was for a ruse to get people to let Johnson off the hook and move on than out of any concern or compassion for the people who'd been fined.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 22, 2022, 08:15:18 AM
Nadine Dorries talking bollocks again:

QuoteCulture Secretary Nadine Dorries is being called to correct the record after claims she made in Parliament were branded "unfounded" and a "blatant lie".

Speaking to the Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee on Thursday, Ms Dorries alleged that a Channel 4 reality show she appeared on in 2010 used actors.

But both the production company and the people who were on the show with the cabinet minister disagree with this version of events.

The Tower Block of Commons show saw members of Parliament "leave behind the splendour of Westminster and their comfortable homes for eight days and nights to live in council tower blocks estates in some of Britain's most deprived neighbourhoods".

Ms Dorries went to share a flat with sisters Rena and Renisha Spaine on the South Acton estate, in west London.

Speaking on Thursdays to MPs, Ms Dorries said: "The parents of the boys in that programme actually came here to have lunch with me, and contacted me to tell me, actually, they were in acting school, and that they weren't really living in a flat, and they weren't real.

"And even, if you remember, there's a pharmacist or somebody that I went to see who prepared food - she was also a paid actress as well."

Speaking to Sky News, Rena Spaine said: "It was a blatant lie and she knows. I don't know where she is getting that rubbish from...

https://news.sky.com/story/dorries-asked-to-correct-record-after-claiming-channel-4-faked-reality-show-tower-block-of-commons-12617907
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 22, 2022, 08:20:10 AM
Sue Gray's report is expected next week. I'm not expecting much from it, especially after the pre-publication meeting between her and Johnson. I'm sure those at the top will get off easily and scapegoats will be found lower down.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Helvetica Scenario on May 22, 2022, 09:08:48 AM
91,000 of them.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 22, 2022, 09:21:22 AM
There really is no other way than voting them out.  Already we are seeing the right-wingers on LBC starting to chime leftwing talking points of the woes of Starmer.  They will obviously reheat the Corbyn divisions, whilst saying Starmer can't be trusted because of Corbyn (and no doubt Momentum).  Their all the same they will say, this isn't true - they have to appear the same and appeal to right-wingers because we live in country that is controlled by rightwing papers and powerful people.

The Labour manifesto will be key and the press are going to pivot on this as soon as it drops.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 22, 2022, 11:12:21 AM
https://metro.co.uk/2022/05/22/tory-mp-spiked-men-with-date-rape-drug-and-licked-victims-nipples-16687032/ (https://metro.co.uk/2022/05/22/tory-mp-spiked-men-with-date-rape-drug-and-licked-victims-nipples-16687032/)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on May 22, 2022, 11:21:22 AM
It seems bizarre that you could have voted for someone, and have them as your MP, and yet you don't need to be informed that they've been accused of stuff like this.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on May 22, 2022, 12:05:28 PM
I'm sure a man who appears on national TV coked off his face doing silly voices won't be too worried about consequences
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 23, 2022, 09:18:08 AM
As if we didn't know already but this just confirms stiche up is nailed on

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/23/uk-government-briefings-accusing-sue-gray-of-playing-politics-condemned-by-minister (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/23/uk-government-briefings-accusing-sue-gray-of-playing-politics-condemned-by-minister)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Inspector Norse on May 23, 2022, 04:35:57 PM
Whose turn is it to do the morning excuse-and-whataboutery rounds tomorrow?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on May 23, 2022, 04:38:24 PM
(https://images.ctfassets.net/pjshm78m9jt4/3jmD6kguQhNFnMgLPctNhl/31aba5c610a85e18b5288192d8bc492c/GFXV_BREAD_SHOT1__0-00-00-00_.jpg?fm=avif&fit=fill&w=650&h=366&q=80)

Im not pissed you know
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 23, 2022, 04:38:58 PM
ITV seem to be reporting they've got new pictures of Boris at the parties. Convenient they've cropped up after the police report has finished isn't it?
https://www.itv.com/news/2022-05-23/exclusive-pm-pictured-drinking-at-downing-street-party-during-lockdown
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: pigamus on May 23, 2022, 04:40:58 PM
Held them back for maximum impact?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on May 23, 2022, 04:41:34 PM
he's finished
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Inspector Norse on May 23, 2022, 04:42:13 PM
Quote from: Video Game Fan 2000 on May 23, 2022, 04:41:34 PMhe's finished

two bottles and onto the third
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 23, 2022, 04:43:12 PM
If new evidence of Johnson breaking lockdown rules has been found can the police reopen the investigation of the relevant parties? Or is that it now, he only gets one FPN?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Inspector Norse on May 23, 2022, 04:45:24 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on May 23, 2022, 04:43:12 PMIf new evidence of Johnson breaking lockdown rules has been found can the police reopen the investigation of the relevant parties? Or is that it now, he only gets one FPN?

One assumes that if these photos are evidence that he attended a party he and his chums told police he hadn't, then it's jail all round for perverting the course of justice or somesuch.

That, of course, is dependent on some level of competence and transparency at some point, so I'll not be holding my breath.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on May 23, 2022, 05:22:04 PM
He's just about to install his mate in the Met isn't he? One hand washes the other
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 23, 2022, 05:27:02 PM
Quote from: Inspector Norse on May 23, 2022, 04:45:24 PMOne assumes that if these photos are evidence that he attended a party he and his chums told police he hadn't, then it's jail all round for perverting the course of justice or somesuch.

That, of course, is dependent on some level of competence and transparency at some point, so I'll not be holding my breath.

Indeed it is puzzling.  Has Cummings played a blinder here knowing he would lie and now the pictures emerge or has this already been priced in the investigation + are these leak pictures from Gray report or new evidence?

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JamesTC on May 23, 2022, 05:54:45 PM
What is Emma Kennedy's take? Is Boris finished?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 23, 2022, 06:04:55 PM
blimey, front page on BBC News am I right to be genuinely surprised/almostimpressed?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: iamcoop on May 23, 2022, 06:49:07 PM
Nothing will happen
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: SpiderChrist on May 23, 2022, 06:53:13 PM
Quote from: iamcoop on May 23, 2022, 06:49:07 PMNothing will happen

That's the reassurance I needed, and knew I'd get here.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: iamcoop on May 23, 2022, 07:02:42 PM
Quote from: SpiderChrist on May 23, 2022, 06:53:13 PMThat's the reassurance I needed, and knew I'd get here.

I'm not even trying to be a dry edgelord, we live in a post-accountability age now. These cunts can do literally anything they want and the world just keeps turning.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: SpiderChrist on May 23, 2022, 07:04:53 PM
Quote from: iamcoop on May 23, 2022, 07:02:42 PMI'm not even trying to be a dry edgelord, we live in a post-accountability age now. These cunts can do literally anything they want and the world just keeps turning.

Oh yeah, I get that.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on May 23, 2022, 07:31:06 PM
Number 10 are saying the Met had seen the photograph. Or I think they might be saying that the Met "had access to photographs", which sounds much vaguer.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 23, 2022, 07:39:20 PM
It's still not 100% clear but it seems the line at least is that these photographs have been seen by the Met.  It doesn't make any sense, but it won't because it is obviously corrupt everyone is now just in for the ride to see how much he can get away with it.  Met now brought into serious disrepute no doubt they'll clear Starmer now to try and put up a veneer of political impartiality but it's clear to anyone not craven or an idiot what has gone on here.

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Thursday on May 23, 2022, 07:46:13 PM
It's confusing because I thought it had basically been confirmed he was at multiple parties and he'd got a couple of fines, but every so often there's a new thing that comes along were people are like
"AH HA! SEE! SEE! THIS PROVES IT! NOW HE TRULY IS FINISHED" And I don't understand why it's supposed to be a revelation.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on May 23, 2022, 08:08:08 PM
Quote from: Thursday on May 23, 2022, 07:46:13 PMIt's confusing because I thought it had basically been confirmed he was at multiple parties and he'd got a couple of fines, but every so often there's a new thing that comes along were people are like
"AH HA! SEE! SEE! THIS PROVES IT! NOW HE TRULY IS FINISHED" And I don't understand why it's supposed to be a revelation.

The biggest gotcha with the photos appears to be that the Met fined some of the people in the photos for attending this particular party, but not Legend Boris.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Famous Mortimer on May 23, 2022, 08:09:33 PM
Quote from: Thursday on May 23, 2022, 07:46:13 PMIt's confusing because I thought it had basically been confirmed he was at multiple parties and he'd got a couple of fines, but every so often there's a new thing that comes along were people are like
"AH HA! SEE! SEE! THIS PROVES IT! NOW HE TRULY IS FINISHED" And I don't understand why it's supposed to be a revelation.
It isn't. The people posting that are just on a different grift, where they get to pretend mocking the scum in power is actually doing something.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on May 23, 2022, 08:17:05 PM
Does anyone not believe that the Met is the armed wing of the Tory party?

We know he broke the law, we know the police know that. We also know that both are above the law and are laughing in our faces.

He's about to give them the powers to crack the heads of anyone who dares protest anything, they fucking love him.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jamiefairlie on May 23, 2022, 08:18:22 PM
Quote from: iamcoop on May 23, 2022, 07:02:42 PMI'm not even trying to be a dry edgelord, we live in a post-accountability age now. These cunts can do literally anything they want and the world just keeps turning.

The exit door is just over here, come on in to 'given up, now I don't care enough to even try' land, it's nice here. I don't get upset about any of this shit any more.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Butchers Blind on May 23, 2022, 08:20:35 PM
imagine a glass of wine stamping on a human face— forever
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 23, 2022, 08:22:24 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 23, 2022, 07:39:20 PMIt's still not 100% clear but it seems the line at least is that these photographs have been seen by the Met.  It doesn't make any sense, but it won't because it is obviously corrupt everyone is now just in for the ride to see how much he can get away with it.  Met now brought into serious disrepute no doubt they'll clear Starmer now to try and put up a veneer of political impartiality but it's clear to anyone not craven or an idiot what has gone on here.



Starmer's being investigated by Durham police. I doubt much will happen anyway given the Cummings thing, and I'm sure the Met could lean on them, but it's not quite as simple as it would be if the investigation was their own to spike.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Inspector Norse on May 23, 2022, 08:23:10 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 23, 2022, 07:39:20 PMIt's still not 100% clear but it seems the line at least is that these photographs have been seen by the Met.  It doesn't make any sense, but it won't because it is obviously corrupt everyone is now just in for the ride to see how much he can get away with it.  Met now brought into serious disrepute no doubt they'll clear Starmer now to try and put up a veneer of political impartiality but it's clear to anyone not craven or an idiot what has gone on here.



It's not the Met investigating Starmer is it? It's Durham PD. WILD CARD!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 23, 2022, 08:24:36 PM
Good point, maybe an opportunity for Durham to show the Met how to do it
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Das Reboot on May 23, 2022, 08:25:28 PM
Mail front page tomorrow: Starmer Beergate day 198 Labour LIES hypocrisy etc
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Pseudopath on May 23, 2022, 09:14:05 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 23, 2022, 08:24:36 PMGood point, maybe an opportunity for Durham to show the Met how to do it

Would be quite funny if they gave Keith a fine after letting Cummings off the hook.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: pigamus on May 23, 2022, 09:28:35 PM
https://twitter.com/ilovemypets56/status/1528786234524504067
Watching news.Johnson at Primary school in Orpington. Child hands Johnson a note. He reads it out. "Please come to our party." Well done to the teacher who organised that! 😂😂😂😂👍👏👏👏
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 23, 2022, 09:59:31 PM
QuotePeter Bone has told Times Radio that the photos obtained by ITV News of the PM attending an event in No 10 don't show a party.

An image of five bottles of wine on a table isn't from a party?

What is the green stuff in the dish on the right of the table? Mushy peas? And why is Johnson's red box just left out in the open at the party? Isn't it top secret?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on May 23, 2022, 10:26:06 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on May 23, 2022, 09:59:31 PMAn image of five bottles of wine on a table isn't from a party?

with eight people there? hardly.


let's buy him a present. maybe a bear merman from shrewsbury or a great big wall clock he can put portraits of his children on each hour.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 23, 2022, 10:28:16 PM
You see what they will try and say "it isn't a party it's a leaving do" therefore "part of work" when leaving do are a) of course a party of sorts and b) not something you could have under the rules.


We were just at work and thought well our esteemed colleague was leaving but of course there were the covid rules so we just had a mini works leaving do as part of work, so it was at this point we respectfully got 4 bottles of wine, some gin, crisps.....
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on May 23, 2022, 10:41:10 PM
maybe i'd trust are brave press more if they didnt blur out all their mates
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on May 23, 2022, 11:02:29 PM
Wasn't it a leaving do for Cain? Who Johnson sacked? So not a leaving do, a celebration.


We all went to work throughout lockdown, whether we were open to the public or not. My colleague of years who is greatly missed left and we did fuck all for her.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Blinder Data on May 24, 2022, 12:03:48 AM
everyone will go mad for a bit but the cunt will stagger on. if both by-elections on 23 June go badly for the Tories, they might make a move. or maybe later in the year the parliament inquiry will find a backbone and call him a liar. which would surely be too much for his MPs to bear...?

if not, he is taking the Tory party down with him at the next election. we're stuck till then
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Johnny Yesno on May 24, 2022, 05:29:43 AM
I dunno if it's been posted already but this is good shit:


Mhairi Black's Epic Speech on Tory Fascism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNy_JvKxJG8

And I know it's a self selecting sample but check out the comments underneath too.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: confettiinmyhair on May 24, 2022, 06:32:56 AM
Yeah, this week's shit storm requires more pictures to do any significant damage. Look at the impact of a grainy creeper shot of Starmer. If there's more pics than the slippery pig might squeal. The state of things mean he probably bumbles on for a few more months.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on May 24, 2022, 07:48:32 AM
Quote from: Blinder Data on May 24, 2022, 12:03:48 AMeveryone will go mad for a bit but the cunt will stagger on. if both by-elections on 23 June go badly for the Tories, they might make a move. or maybe later in the year the parliament inquiry will find a backbone and call him a liar. which would surely be too much for his MPs to bear...?

if not, he is taking the Tory party down with him at the next election. we're stuck till then

Remember them saying they'd wait to see how the local elections went (while pretending that was somehow principled and not cynical)? 500 Tory arsehole councillors gone and not a peep.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on May 24, 2022, 08:17:10 AM
Presumably no-one is queuing up to be leader during what will be the biggest downturn in the country's fortunes since the financial crash.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 24, 2022, 08:50:19 AM
I don't think there is any chance of him going.  He will be promising some broadside against Labour that will get them through the next election.  Whether that works or not is another matter.  I don't even seem any advantage to getting rid of him either, they've got no-one and they know it when you bring in someone like Johnson you've become a one man outfit, they sink or swim with him, and if they sink it's all about rising again with someone else.

Meanwhile what the Tories have been doing (and always do) is build you massive issues for any incoming government.  The Tory has also been about 50% opportunists that ride government as long as they can until people cotton on they are shysters, that percentage has grown massively since Cameron.  Part of the cycle is, they fuck things up, Labour come in having to try and fix things (for the country not just their mates which is an exponentially bigger task), its a policy of poisoning the well so your enemies struggle after you've gone - they don't care if that is the country and the people in that are the casualties in that.

Self preservation and greed first, always.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: SteveDave on May 24, 2022, 09:32:19 AM
Fuck me

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/grant-shapps-claims-not-partying-27047663

QuoteTory Grant Shapps has bizarrely claimed Boris Johnson was "clearly not partying" when he raised fizz surrounded by booze at a No10 party.

The Cabinet ally said the Prime Minister "lost his mum during the period", despite the fact Charlotte Johnson Wahl died "suddenly" 10 months after the party happened.

But again, nothing will happen.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 24, 2022, 09:46:33 AM
QuoteOn BBC Breakfast, when asked to accept it was a party, Shapps said: "It's certainly a leaving event." And on the Today programme he explained why he did not think the picture showed Johnson partying:

It looks to me that he was asked to go and thank a member of staff who was leaving, raises the glass to them, and I imagine comes in and out pretty quick, which is presumably why the police have not issued a fixed penalty notice to the prime minister for a moment.

This is basically the Tories telling the police what to say isn't it.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on May 24, 2022, 09:50:22 AM
They came up with it together.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 24, 2022, 10:16:14 AM
Quoteimagine comes in and out pretty quick

I bet he does the dirty old bollocks.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Inspector Norse on May 24, 2022, 10:28:53 AM
Michael Green Sebastian Fox Corinne Stockheath Grant Shapps in talking bollocks shocker
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on May 24, 2022, 10:35:47 AM
Apparently, these weren't leaving drinks, they were regular drinks and Johnson was there for twenty five minutes pouring drinks. Everyone interviewed by the met said this and they didn't even send him a questionairre.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on May 24, 2022, 10:59:18 AM
Its incredible how Shapps, the transport secretary, is always sent on the media circuit despite being shit at it. He must be a real bottom-feeder in the cabinet
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Uncle TechTip on May 24, 2022, 12:14:41 PM
Friday drinks a regular occurrence, just like in offices up and down the land.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on May 24, 2022, 12:54:46 PM
QuoteThe Times has been told that Johnson suggested Gray should drop her plans to publish her report during a secret meeting with him earlier this month. Steve Barclay, his chief of staff, was also said to have been present.

"He asked her, is there much point in doing it now that it's all out there?" a Whitehall source said. "He was inferring that she didn't need to publish the report." Another added: "They were exploring this idea of not having any report. It was being talked about [in Downing Street]. But politically they realised they couldn't do it."

(https://c.tenor.com/Eeyv4vVW56IAAAAC/dig-up.gif)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 24, 2022, 01:34:21 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on May 24, 2022, 10:59:18 AMIts incredible how Shapps, the transport secretary, is always sent on the media circuit despite being shit at it. He must be a real bottom-feeder in the cabinet

What is known as a "sponge"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Johnny Yesno on May 24, 2022, 02:05:30 PM
Quote from: Inspector Norse on May 24, 2022, 10:28:53 AMMichael Green Sebastian Fox Corinne Stockheath Grant Shapps in talking bollocks shocker

Blimey! Another pseudonym. I wasn't previously aware of Corinne Stockheath. Definitely a trustworthy man is Shapps.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 24, 2022, 05:05:32 PM
From the Metro:

QuoteInsiders at Downing Street lockdown parties have described how staff crowded together, sat on each other's laps and mocked colleagues who tried to stop what was going on during regular events.

Speaking to BBC Panorama on the condition of anonymity, the staffers described arriving for work the morning after a get-together to find bottles lying around parts of the building, bins overflowing with rubbish and empties left on the table...

They blamed the culture of rule-breaking on the prime minister, suggesting he 'wanted to be liked' and for staff to be able to 'let their hair down'.

They said he would often pop through to events on the way to his flat – and never told people to break up and go home.

An insider said: 'He wasn't saying, "Can everyone break up and go home? Can everyone socially distance? Can everyone put masks on?"

'No, he wasn't telling anybody that. He was grabbing a glass for himself.'...

Junior staff are said to be furious that some of them attended the same lockdown busting events as the prime minister and have received multiple fines, while Mr Johnson received just one.

One of the insiders told the BBC that younger members of the team 'did not think they were breaking the rules at the time because the prime minister was at [the events], some of the most senior civil servants in the country were at them – and were indeed organising some of them'...

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on May 24, 2022, 05:10:22 PM
What a ledge!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Famous Mortimer on May 24, 2022, 06:30:24 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on May 24, 2022, 05:05:32 PMFrom the Metro:


People working for cunt surprised he behaves like a cunt, news at 11
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zetetic on May 24, 2022, 08:08:01 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/gTzOhVU.png)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Lordofthefiles on May 24, 2022, 09:38:20 PM
The Met, The Media, The Politicians...

20 GOTO 10



Eat your heart out Daniel Morgan.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 25, 2022, 07:30:52 AM
QuoteFellow Tory MP Stuart Anderson also said: "People have moved on from this."

Have they? I think a lot of people are still angry.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on May 25, 2022, 10:20:16 AM
Just gonna brazen it out.

We do what we fucking want. Be quiet.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Inspector Norse on May 25, 2022, 10:24:11 AM
So the Sue Gray report has LANDED and Churchill's Heir will give a statement on it after PMQs.

Given that the media's top secret bald, bespectacled source released a few photos on Monday just after the Met investigation had been zipped up, what are the chances that he is sitting on some even more damning pics which will mysteriously arrive in the inbox of a top ITV or Mirror reporter sometime in the next 48 hours?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on May 25, 2022, 10:27:46 AM
BUNTER DE PFPEGFFL YOUR FINOSHED ARRGHH SQUEEEEEEEE WHOOP!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: robhug on May 25, 2022, 10:34:41 AM
if bojo was certain relaxing gun laws would be that popular with his core voters that it would get him in again, I'm absolutely certain he'd do it
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Butchers Blind on May 25, 2022, 11:25:43 AM
This cunt dead yet?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 25, 2022, 11:33:12 AM
You can read the Sue Grey report here (PDF): https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1078404/2022-05-25_FINAL_FINDINGS_OF_SECOND_PERMANENT_SECRETARY_INTO_ALLEGED_GATHERINGS.pdf
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on May 25, 2022, 11:35:58 AM
Tesco BLT there mate. Careful
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: greencalx on May 25, 2022, 11:37:05 AM
Seems pretty toothless, from a skim read. Just states what has happened on each occasion, without making any judgement on whether it would have been Allowed or Not Allowed at the time (though I didn't read it properly so may have missed).
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on May 25, 2022, 11:39:40 AM
Does the report say why the police who were there and knew what was happening, and knew it was against the law did nothing?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on May 25, 2022, 11:41:11 AM
And it's a whitewash!

Can barely believe it.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Mobius on May 25, 2022, 11:41:35 AM
Yeah it's shit even Sky News are struggling to milk it
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on May 25, 2022, 11:41:54 AM
Snap Verdict

The cunt doesn't do anything except apologise. If he was going to be defenestrated by his party they would have had the guts to do it by now. Nor will 'lessons be learnt'. If anything, Johnson escaping from this will lead to further, greater abuses just as happens with feckless recidivism.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 25, 2022, 11:42:31 AM
Telling how many photos of Johnson and Sunak not wearing masks there are.

Remember when Johnson was pictured at a hospital not wearing a mask?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on May 25, 2022, 11:45:03 AM
Can we please move on to destroying unions, the judiciary and human rights? Thank you.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on May 25, 2022, 11:47:33 AM
BUT BUNTER ALEXANDER MUST BE SLAYED BY GIRLBOSS SUE GREY!?!?!? NO MY LIBERAL JUSTICE FANTASY IS EBBING AWAYVBEFORE MY EYES
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 25, 2022, 11:53:10 AM
Lots of Johnson bootlickers on Twitter getting #defundtheBBC trending, claiming it is "openly campaigning to unseat an elected prime minister" and talking about the "scum media".

A lot of them are complaining that the media are focusing on the Sue Gray report instead of the cost of living crisis and the economy, ignoring that there wouldn't be a cost of living crisis if it wasn't for the government they defend.

Are these all real people or bots? Either way it's bleak.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Mobius on May 25, 2022, 12:01:41 PM
Nice to hear she didn't even bother investigating the flat party
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on May 25, 2022, 12:07:15 PM
In a way it's right though, the centre media have been trying to use this relatively incosequential thing to get rid of Boris Johnson with no effect on his party and get some sensible man put in charge of the establishment by hammering it for months now, but they absolutely fucked it to the point that the leader of the oppposition is more likely to resign over it.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 25, 2022, 12:58:06 PM
QuoteJohnson says: "I hope that today as well as learning the lessons from Sue Gray's report... we will be able to move on and focus on the priorities of the British people

I mean, a priority of mine would be to have an honest government which obeyed the rules it made. Also, it seems Johnson and his cabinet cannot multi-task.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 25, 2022, 01:00:46 PM
Jesus still people focusing on Starmer and centrists on Twitter rather than the absolute piss taking cunt of a PM.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Paul Calf on May 25, 2022, 01:03:54 PM
Most countries have to recruit their fascist stalking-horses from the working classes - Hitler was an Austrian corporal, Mussolini's family were socialist blacksmiths and Stalin was the son of a shoemaker.

In forelock-tugging Britain, we just short-cut to putting billionaire toffs into unaccountable power.

What a pathetic, grey, wet fag-end collection of frozen rocks in the arse end of the North Atlantic this fucking country is. The ashtray of Europe.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 25, 2022, 01:05:53 PM
lol, lmao

[slightly nsfw] https://twitter.com/Meat__Hook/status/1529427485959520258
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: SteveDave on May 25, 2022, 01:22:52 PM
Is this real life?

https://twitter.com/johnestevens/status/1529432640335536129

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 25, 2022, 01:23:54 PM
QuoteResponding to the Labour leader, Boris Johnson says his opposite number was not busy leading hundreds of people during the pandemic, but "sniping from the sidelines and veering from one position to the next".

He says "time after time" Sir Keir Starmer focused on parties when asking questions in the Commons, rather than using "common sense" to understand that it was "difficult to draw the boundary between work and socialising".

The prime minister accuses him of having a "sanctimonious obsession" with Partygate, which has been "punctured" by the investigation into his actions in Durham.

Just an insult to everyone who followed the rules. How many ordinary people were able to use the "difficult to draw the boundary between work and socialising" rules when being fined by police.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: robhug on May 25, 2022, 01:33:03 PM
Vladimir Corbyn
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on May 25, 2022, 01:34:59 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/24/three-cheers-police-blindness-partygate-boris-johnson?CMP=share_btn_tw

For once Marina Hyde and I are in agreement.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on May 25, 2022, 01:36:00 PM
Quote from: Paul Calf on May 25, 2022, 01:03:54 PMMost countries have to recruit their fascist stalking-horses from the working classes - Hitler was an Austrian corporal, Mussolini's family were socialist blacksmiths and Stalin was the son of a shoemaker.

In forelock-tugging Britain, we just short-cut to putting billionaire toffs into unaccountable power.

What a pathetic, grey, wet fag-end collection of frozen rocks in the arse end of the North Atlantic this fucking country is. The ashtray of Europe.

Yeah maybe I should do a murder suicide. Maybe we all should
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: gilbertharding on May 25, 2022, 01:38:18 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on May 25, 2022, 01:23:54 PMJust an insult to everyone who followed the rules. How many ordinary people were able to use the "difficult to draw the boundary between work and socialising" rules when being fined by police.

Again (I know you know this) IT ISN'T ABOUT THE PARTIES. IT IS THE LIES. THE CONSTANT, STUPID, TRANSPARENT LIES.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JamesTC on May 25, 2022, 01:38:46 PM
Well in Bozza. You beat those commies into the ground!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: touchingcloth on May 25, 2022, 01:51:07 PM
Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?

NO! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NO I DO NOT! BAHAHAHAHA WIFF WAFF OR WHATEVER
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 25, 2022, 01:51:31 PM
Quote from: gilbertharding on May 25, 2022, 01:38:18 PMAgain (I know you know this) IT ISN'T ABOUT THE PARTIES. IT IS THE LIES. THE CONSTANT, STUPID, TRANSPARENT LIES.

I think it is both the parties and the lies, to be honest.

I do wonder how many people spread covid asymptomatically to each other at the Number 10 parties. If people like Johnson and Sunak weren't obeying the rules on gatherings were they obeying the rules on testing regularly?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 25, 2022, 01:53:35 PM
Quote"Difficult though this is to say for many: with a war in Europe, with an economic crisis, with the challenges this country faces, is it not really true that it is now time to turn a page - and for this country, our politics, and this House to move forwards?"

Robert Jenrick
Conservative MP

Just like Jenrick would want people to move on from his approval of Desmond's luxury housing development on Westferry Road:

QuoteIn May 2020, Jenrick accepted that his approval of a £1 billion luxury housing development on Westferry Road, Isle of Dogs had been unlawful. The 1,500-home development was proposed by Richard Desmond, a Conservative Party donor and owner of Northern & Shell. The government's planning inspector had previously advised against the scheme, as it delivered an inadequate amount of affordable housing and as the height of the tower would be detrimental to the character of the area.[44] However, Jenrick approved the scheme on 14 January, knowing that an approval by that date would enable Richard Desmond to avoid having to pay a council-imposed infrastructure levy of between £30 and £50 million, which could have been used for funding schools and health clinics
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on May 25, 2022, 01:56:50 PM
Fuck off Jenrick shock doctrine cunt

Quotewith an economic crisis

While telling everyone we've had the fastest economic recovery in Europe.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on May 25, 2022, 02:04:51 PM
My problem with it all is the tap tap tap at the foundation of public faith in democracy: they're all in it together, they make rules for us not for themselves, you can't trust any of them, why vote at all because they're all the same and if one gets caught doing something illegal well they're all like that so what can you do.

The current tories are creating existential problems for democracy and laughing while they do it.

I hope everyone at the graun/bbc is pleased with themselves for attacking that awful mr crobbin. Could have been worse - a horrid little man!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: gilbertharding on May 25, 2022, 02:11:57 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on May 25, 2022, 01:51:31 PMI think it is both the parties and the lies, to be honest.

I do wonder how many people spread covid asymptomatically to each other at the Number 10 parties. If people like Johnson and Sunak weren't obeying the rules on gatherings were they obeying the rules on testing regularly?

Well, yes - of course it's the parties too. But you often hear people waving away 'the parties', because it turns out that *some* of the precautions many of us were obliged to take (like not sitting on a bench in the middle of a one hour walk, or crossing the road if it looked as if someone was going to come within 100 yards) were a bit overcooked in retrospect.

So I focus on the lies. In most normal political scandals you read about from history it's hardly ever the 'thing' that gets them, it's the lies they tell afterwards.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Beagle 2 on May 25, 2022, 02:13:41 PM
Calling him Sir Beer Korma just makes him sound like a massive ledge doesn't it? I mean, I like him more already.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: gilbertharding on May 25, 2022, 02:14:29 PM
Quote from: Ferris on May 25, 2022, 02:04:51 PMMy problem with it all is the tap tap tap at the foundation of public faith in democracy: they're all in it together, they make rules for us not for themselves, you can't trust any of them, why vote at all because they're all the same and if one gets caught doing something illegal well they're all like that so what can you do.

The current tories are creating existential problems for democracy and laughing while they do it.


Yep. And the next time we're told we all need to do something for the common good, at least 52% of 'us' will just laugh and tell them to fuck off.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: AllisonSays on May 25, 2022, 02:21:58 PM
I try not to engage too much with party politics and individual politicians because I think it's mostly a waste of time but I truly do hate this sniggering hack motherfucker. The product of a life lived without consequences for any of your actions.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on May 25, 2022, 02:24:41 PM
Yeah it's all just a game of chess to Johnson, except he's pissed up and refusing to admit he doesn't know how to play chess.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: poodlefaker on May 25, 2022, 02:26:45 PM
Quote from: robhug on May 25, 2022, 10:34:41 AMif bojo was certain relaxing gun laws would be that popular with his core voters that it would get him in again, I'm absolutely certain he'd do it
He actually wrote a column opposing tighter gun control after the Dunblane massacre "Nanny is confiscating their toys. It is like one of those vast Indian programmes of compulsory vasectomy."
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 25, 2022, 02:27:24 PM
Johnson is holding a press conference at 3:30pm.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: touchingcloth on May 25, 2022, 02:37:26 PM
Quote from: Ferris on May 25, 2022, 02:04:51 PMMy problem with it all is the tap tap tap at the foundation of public faith in democracy: they're all in it together, they make rules for us not for themselves, you can't trust any of them, why vote at all because they're all the same and if one gets caught doing something illegal well they're all like that so what can you do.

The current tories are creating existential problems for democracy and laughing while they do it.

I hope everyone at the graun/bbc is pleased with themselves for attacking that awful mr crobbin. Could have been worse - a horrid little man!

And top of the pile are the royals who are literally above the law, and who there's no route for non-royals to aspire to be. In theory anyone can become a president or a prime minister, but a queen? Unless you are able to invent a time machine and a way to insert yourself into the bollocks of a former sovereign, no chance.

I know in some ways the monarchy and Republicanism are silly concerns and, like North Korea, can be ignored as just a weird quirk of our planet. But in another way, I do wonder what sort of effects trickle down when there are cases where the idea of meritocracy is ruled out by design.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on May 25, 2022, 02:45:48 PM
Quote from: touchingcloth on May 25, 2022, 02:37:26 PMAnd top of the pile are the royals who are literally above the law, and who there's no route for non-royals to aspire to be. In theory anyone can become a president or a prime minister, but a queen? Unless you are able to invent a time machine and a way to insert yourself into the bollocks of a former sovereign, no chance.

I know plenty of queens who've inserted themselves into someone's bollocks.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: touchingcloth on May 25, 2022, 03:09:08 PM
Quote from: Huxleys Babkins on May 25, 2022, 02:45:48 PMI know plenty of queens who've inserted themselves into someone's bollocks.

I bet you do, you dirty old ARGH TAUTOLOGY NO I bet you fucking do.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 25, 2022, 03:15:11 PM
.
wrong thread
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JamesTC on May 25, 2022, 03:35:02 PM
BORISGONE
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JamesTC on May 25, 2022, 03:35:37 PM
...round the pub for another round. Ledge he is.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 25, 2022, 03:37:44 PM
Sue Gray didn't investigate the Abba party.

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on May 25, 2022, 03:43:10 PM
Response to every question: I think I should stay in power and you should all shut up. Are we done here? Got pints waiting for me.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 25, 2022, 03:50:27 PM
Making a joke about Beth Rigby having a follow up question. What a stain.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jamiefairlie on May 25, 2022, 03:51:40 PM
Yeah I done all them grisly murders and started a war and gassed all the Jews but let's move on yeah?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: robhug on May 25, 2022, 03:57:43 PM
Quote from: jamiefairlie on May 25, 2022, 03:51:40 PMYeah I done all them grisly murders and started a war and gassed all the Jews but let's move on yeah?

i think what the German people want the most now is to concentrate on the rebuilding of infrastructure, rebuilding our relationships with our European neighbours so just move on for gods sake
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 25, 2022, 03:59:56 PM
"Such is my natural generosity of soul". Yuk.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 25, 2022, 04:08:18 PM
Meanwhile reports that Sunak paid over £10,000 to fly by helicopter from Battersea to Powys.

Tories really do hate public transport don't they? Sunak could have taken the train to Welshpool and got the taxi from there. Or even got a bus from Welshpool to Powys. Ironic that the same politicans claiming the public need to get back onto public transport don't want to use public transport themselves.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/rishi-sunak-pays-10000-private-27054785
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: touchingcloth on May 25, 2022, 04:28:28 PM
Johnson has ruled out resigning based on this, but has he ruled out being stabbed and shot and pitchforked and bummed to death by angry citizens?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 25, 2022, 04:35:48 PM
I'm starting to understand why the Americans want guns.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 25, 2022, 04:48:45 PM
Quote@lizziedearden
·
6h
Breaking: Legal action has been launched over the Metropolitan Police's alleged failure to "adequately investigate" Boris Johnson's attendance at Downing Street Parties

The
@GoodLawProject
 has given the force two weeks to respond to its legal letter
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jamiefairlie on May 25, 2022, 04:55:06 PM
He's forgiven himself so let it go yeah?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jamiefairlie on May 25, 2022, 05:10:46 PM
This is his big Thatcher moment.

He'll drop his trousers, have a big shit on the Speaker's chair, shove the mace up his shitty arse and start wanking, all the while screaming "I'm enjoying this, I'm enjoying this!"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Indomitable Spirit on May 25, 2022, 05:12:21 PM
I reckon one more Led By Donkeys video and this cunts toast
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 25, 2022, 05:42:47 PM
Johnson is currently meeting the 1922 committee, who banged the desks as usual.

Tory MP Julian Sturdy has now called for Johnson to resign.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on May 25, 2022, 05:49:01 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on May 25, 2022, 05:42:47 PMJohnson is currently meeting the 1922 committee, who banged the desks as usual.

Tory MP Julian Sturdy has now called for Johnson to resign.

I refuse to believe that's a real person.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Juan K Perros on May 25, 2022, 06:10:52 PM
Quote from: Huxleys Babkins on May 25, 2022, 05:49:01 PMI refuse to believe that's a real person.

Looks a bit like a less feral Nick Griffin.

(https://yorkmix.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/julian-sturdy-vote-leave.jpg)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JamesTC on May 25, 2022, 06:42:36 PM
Less? He looks like Nick Griffin caught up in a zombie apocalypse.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on May 25, 2022, 07:19:54 PM
Lol, centrist social media scions are now hanging all hopes on the Privileges Committee as though Johnson is going to resign if they found he misled Parliament. He will brazen it out as usual.

Their endless stupidity almost blocks out the actual wrongdoing, it is unparalleled levels of just being wrong over and over and over again and never learning. Not only that but convinced they are the clever grown ups.

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Bernice on May 25, 2022, 07:22:28 PM
Dunno, I reckon if Emma Kennedy does another 'buhbye mr boris' tweet it might just tip this thing over the edge.
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Post by: Paul Calf on May 25, 2022, 07:34:31 PM
He needs to say something about trans rights quick.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on May 25, 2022, 07:43:00 PM
Quote from: Bernice on May 25, 2022, 07:22:28 PMDunno, I reckon if Emma Kennedy does another 'buhbye mr boris' tweet it might just tip this thing over the edge.
fyi shes busy positioning herself as centrist captain america or something now

Embarrassing stuff

https://twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1529475151716356097
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Jollity on May 25, 2022, 07:43:09 PM
Quote from: Cold Meat Platter on May 25, 2022, 04:35:48 PMI'm starting to understand why the Americans want guns.

You say that, but they hardly ever shoot politicians.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Pranet on May 25, 2022, 07:44:31 PM
No, but they do shoot themselves quite frequently.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Bernice on May 25, 2022, 07:57:03 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on May 25, 2022, 07:43:00 PMfyi shes busy positioning herself as centrist captain america or something now

Embarrassing stuff

https://twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1529475151716356097

"I don't care if I have to tweet all night"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 25, 2022, 08:07:50 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on May 25, 2022, 07:43:00 PMfyi shes busy positioning herself as centrist captain america or something now

Embarrassing stuff

https://twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1529475151716356097

QuoteEVERYONE who wants this shower of shit gone, get behind them whatever the colour of your political party of choice.

Says someone who flounced to the lib dems.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 25, 2022, 08:18:25 PM
You know it's much more efficient skewering these twats by saying yes of course we should vote for anyone that can get rid of these utter arseholes but it just begs the question why you didn't have the foresight or couldn't see this before what you were pissing your knickers over Corbyn.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: thenoise on May 25, 2022, 08:19:29 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on May 25, 2022, 04:08:18 PMSunak could have taken the train to Welshpool
That would have cost more to be fair.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Goldentony on May 25, 2022, 09:16:23 PM
nice chips in Welshpool in that place that's where the cinema used to be, good choice from Sunak
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Bernice on May 25, 2022, 09:16:41 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 25, 2022, 08:18:25 PMYou know it's much more efficient skewering these twats by saying yes of course we should vote for anyone that can get rid of these utter arseholes but it just begs the question why you didn't have the foresight or couldn't see this before what you were pissing your knickers over Corbyn.

Knickers! Like a girl wears!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Beagle 2 on May 26, 2022, 06:46:35 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61584546

The cynicism of the timing of this announcement. So blatant.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on May 26, 2022, 06:59:04 AM
QuotePaul Johnson, director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, said it was important most of the government support was targeted at those on the lowest incomes.

He told the BBC offering a universal payment would mean a lot of the money would go to households who "don't desperately need it".

He also warned putting billions of pounds into the economy at a time when prices were rising quickly "could stoke additional demand and make inflation much more permanent".

Even with the energy bill savings prices will still have risen and people's earnings are not keeping track with inflation meaning they are worse off so that's a tosser thing to say.

Also, if it were means tested many people would lose out through not being able to do the paperwork or through error, and setting up that bureaucracy would be expensive. Just like universal basic income you're saving by not setting that up and simply giving everyone the money.

Johnson reaches for socialism to save his arse once again.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 26, 2022, 10:41:11 AM
Tory MPs John Baron and David Simmonds have just called for Johnson to resign.

How many of these MPs are actually sending letters to the 1922 committee though?

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Mr_Simnock on May 26, 2022, 10:55:31 AM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on May 26, 2022, 10:41:11 AMTory MPs John Baron and David Simmonds have just called for Johnson to resign.

How many of these MPs are actually sending letters to the 1922 committee though?



they are looking into it, are strongly considering it, amlost certainly going to do it, posibly waiting for the outcome of the 2 by ellections in June first, but rest assured it's an option they are certainly planning to implement when the war in ukrain is over
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Post by: pigamus on May 26, 2022, 10:58:59 AM
If both of the by-elections are bad I think something might happen. Not holding my breath but I get the feeling even the bastards have had enough.
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Post by: shoulders on May 26, 2022, 11:00:37 AM
I don't know how long these centrist pundits need to keep losing and keep having their pants pulled over their head to realise that maybe the world no longer follows these rules and strictures  and all it takes is someone like Trump or Johnson to disregard them (along with countless historic examples) , so we are all to blame for not having developed a system of greater accountability. The centre liberals have always defended the existing system that supports their economic interests while it rotted from the inside. Welcome to the rotting carcass you fools.
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Post by: Mr_Simnock on May 26, 2022, 11:01:07 AM
Quote from: pigamus on May 26, 2022, 10:58:59 AMIf both of the by-elections are bad I think something might happen. Not holding my breath but I get the feeling even the bastards have had enough.

johnson won't resign, even if they get 0 votes, he will have to be forced out
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Post by: pigamus on May 26, 2022, 11:07:38 AM
Oh no, he won't resign. But the cunts really do think they're going to lose the next election now, or at least get fucked back into Theresa May territory. I think they'd do it today if they could agree on a candidate to replace him.
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 26, 2022, 11:08:01 AM
In 13 days he will have beaten Gordon Brown's term in office.
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Post by: Mr_Simnock on May 26, 2022, 11:25:39 AM
Quote from: pigamus on May 26, 2022, 11:07:38 AMOh no, he won't resign. But the cunts really do think they're going to lose the next election now, or at least get fucked back into Theresa May territory. I think they'd do it today if they could agree on a candidate to replace him.

agree, I really hope they get an absolute arse kicking in june and then I can enjoy the show of a big toddler getting forced out getting started at least (although you never know they might just stick with the man child until the next ellection)
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 26, 2022, 11:31:45 AM
Are the Tories likely to lose the next election with Johnson as leader now the requirements for photo ID will make it harder for people who cannot afford passports and who don't drive (people less likely to vote Tory) to vote? Also, Kier Starmer's awfulness is a gift to the Tories. Who is inspired by Kier Starmer?

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Post by: Cerys on May 26, 2022, 11:42:04 AM
Quote from: Goldentony on May 25, 2022, 09:16:23 PMnice chips in Welshpool in that place that's where the cinema used to be, good choice from Sunak

That's where I first saw Flatliners.  Maybe it's an omen.
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Post by: Mr_Simnock on May 26, 2022, 11:44:00 AM
https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1527436737701724192?cxt=HHwWwIC--djnxbIqAAAA (https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1527436737701724192?cxt=HHwWwIC--djnxbIqAAAA) and https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1529728050384064512?cxt=HHwWgMC-4dLj17oqAAAA (https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1529728050384064512?cxt=HHwWgMC-4dLj17oqAAAA)

two more tory councils going to the greens

https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1525064883242512387?cxt=HHwWhsC9kcybj6oqAAAA (https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1525064883242512387?cxt=HHwWhsC9kcybj6oqAAAA) and https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1525065116500254720?cxt=HHwWgICzhZapj6oqAAAA (https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1525065116500254720?cxt=HHwWgICzhZapj6oqAAAA)

and 2 more tory losses to IND and Labour

4 more councils gone this month
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on May 26, 2022, 11:50:31 AM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on May 26, 2022, 11:31:45 AMAre the Tories likely to lose the next election with Johnson as leader now the requirements for photo ID will make it harder for people who cannot afford passports and who don't drive (people less likely to vote Tory) to vote? Also, Kier Starmer's awfulness is a gift to the Tories. Who is inspired by Kier Starmer?

As we saw in the States, it's less about electing someone exciting and inspiring and more about electing someone who doesn't think things like pandemics, recessions and wars are all a big laugh.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 26, 2022, 11:56:33 AM
All the centrists bigging up Rory Stewart on Twitter again.

Voting record from TheyWorkForYou:

QuoteAlmost always voted against increasing the tax rate applied to income over £150,000

Generally voted against a banker's bonus tax

Almost always voted for more restrictive regulation of trade union activity

Consistently voted against an annual tax on the value of expensive homes (popularly known as a mansion tax)

Generally voted against a publicly owned railway system

Almost always voted against slowing the rise in rail fares

Almost always voted against greater public control of bus services

Consistently voted for replacing Trident with a new nuclear weapons system

Voted against investigations into the Iraq war

Consistently voted for fewer MPs in the House of Commons

Consistently voted against a wholly elected House of Lords

Consistently voted against restrictions on fees charged to tenants by letting agents

Consistently voted against greater regulation of gambling

Generally voted for the policies included in the 2010 Conservative - Liberal Democrat Coalition Agreement

Generally voted for the privatisation of Royal Mail

Consistently voted against raising welfare benefits at least in line with prices

Almost always voted against paying higher benefits over longer periods for those unable to work due to illness or disability

Generally voted for reducing housing benefit for social tenants deemed to have excess bedrooms (which Labour describe as the "bedroom tax")

Almost always voted for a reduction in spending on welfare benefits

Almost always voted for reducing the rate of corporation tax

Consistently voted for stronger enforcement of immigration rules

Consistently voted for a stricter asylum system

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24964/rory_stewart/penrith_and_the_border/votes

The centrists should be made to explain why they think a person who votes in this way should be Prime Minister.

bUt hE lOvEs tHe EU
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Post by: Darles Chickens on May 26, 2022, 11:58:07 AM
(https://www.theyworkforyou.com/people-images/mpsL/24964.jpg)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Butchers Blind on May 26, 2022, 12:41:55 PM
He did smoke some hashish while getting lost in Afghanistan. GBoL
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Post by: bgmnts on May 26, 2022, 12:51:36 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on May 26, 2022, 11:56:33 AMAll the centrists bigging up Rory Stewart on Twitter again.

Voting record from TheyWorkForYou:

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24964/rory_stewart/penrith_and_the_border/votes

The centrists should be made to explain why they think a person who votes in this way should be Prime Minister.

bUt hE lOvEs tHe EU

We've established the centrist is essentially the tory but lacking the character to be such a bastard. I dont know why people give centrists this level of leeway and credit.
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Post by: pigamus on May 26, 2022, 12:52:40 PM
Quote from: Cerys on May 26, 2022, 11:42:04 AMThat's where I first saw Flatliners.  Maybe it's an omen.

Different film I think
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Post by: Zero Gravitas on May 26, 2022, 12:55:00 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/r0xOPBF.gif)(https://i.imgur.com/gFgr3R5.png)

Damn wrong thread previously.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 26, 2022, 12:57:29 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on May 26, 2022, 12:51:36 PMWe've established the centrist is essentially the tory but lacking the character to be such a bastard. I dont know why people give centrists this level of leeway and credit.

For me it's more about holding them to account, it annoys me how many centrists hide behind their "sensible" persona and pretend they are the moderate choice when they back people like Stewart.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: pigamus on May 26, 2022, 01:03:08 PM
"I do the same old shit but I wring my hands a bit"

"Sold"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 26, 2022, 01:27:03 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on May 26, 2022, 12:51:36 PMWe've established the centrist is essentially the tory but lacking the character to be such a bastard. I dont know why people give centrists this level of leeway and credit.

Because it's stupid.  Devolving people down to some fabled archetypal tory even within tory voters is problematic, there is obviously a spectrum for baby eaters to free market I'm alright jacks to law and order traditionalists.  There is this childlike view that people that don't support Corbyn (and we've even seen people that do/did support him but not enough) being called tories.  It's less about giving leeway and credit but having a more nuanced view on the world, mainly for purposes of progressing leftwing views.

Centrism isn't really a thing there is no "centrist party" they tried it and it failed remember, what you have is a lot of well off commentators on twitter, that because their feet are further away from the fire don't have the same focus of mind as those that do.  Likewise those with their feet closest to the fire invariably also make reactive, poor decisions and all too often cannibalise their own.  Just another one of the divisions the ultimately powerful people benefit from.  In reality the centrists many people obsess about on here (and I understand why, better the devil you know, but this again is just another helpful division) are just politically naive and are lacking in ideology, but have a platform (something we learnt about JOB for example from his interview with Owen Jones, he is an idiot, likely formed from years at boarding school where he learnt the pitfalls of ideology from elite theory and from the outside, but never understood it's necessitating role in survival for those less privileged - also see his inability to empathises with those people ideologically driven by things like Brexit).  Normally in politics you earn platforms from ideology but this is the world now of Twitter where anyone with something to flog that will get them followers can tell us all their political insights.

I'd say centrism is a lack of ideology above all else.  Also twitter is a magnifying glass for these people, I mean shock horror that a load of comedian, actors and musicians turned out to be narcissists on twitter with crap politics, perhaps artists shouldn't always be held in such esteem (celebritised) in the first place? Over people that humbly go about their business actually making sure the country doesn't collapse in on itself.

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Post by: Blumf on May 26, 2022, 01:37:35 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 26, 2022, 01:27:03 PMthere is no "centrist party"

Um.. the Liberal Democrats? (itself formed from the Liberal Party and the centrist Labour breakaway Social Democratic Party). Remember how it was the party to happily cosy up to the Tories back in 2010.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 26, 2022, 01:41:59 PM
Quote from: Blumf on May 26, 2022, 01:37:35 PMUm.. the Liberal Democrats? (itself formed from the Liberal Party and the centrist Labour breakaway Social Democratic Party). Remember how it was the party to happily cosy up to the Tories back in 2010.

Hmmm, not really(ish), but I was more referring to the Nando Coalition (CUKs), the Lib Dems have been around a lot longer than the notion of centrism which is something different in my opinion.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Blumf on May 26, 2022, 01:52:32 PM
How are you defining centrism then?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: solidified gruel merchant on May 26, 2022, 02:00:18 PM
Quote from: Darles Chickens on May 26, 2022, 11:58:07 AM(https://www.theyworkforyou.com/people-images/mpsL/24964.jpg)

Johnny Briggs has let himself go (to private school)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Paul Calf on May 26, 2022, 02:05:10 PM
Ona serious note, does Rory Stewart have a proper condition of some sort? He looks anaemic or deficient in something1


1Lol empathy amirite?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Bence Fekete on May 26, 2022, 02:19:35 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/boMGjXY.jpg)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Famous Mortimer on May 26, 2022, 02:34:49 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 26, 2022, 01:27:03 PMBecause it's stupid.  Devolving people down to some fabled archetypal tory even within tory voters is problematic, there is obviously a spectrum for baby eaters to free market I'm alright jacks to law and order traditionalists.  There is this childlike view that people that don't support Corbyn (and we've even seen people that do/did support him but not enough) being called tories.  It's less about giving leeway and credit but having a more nuanced view on the world, mainly for purposes of progressing leftwing views.

Centrism isn't really a thing there is no "centrist party" they tried it and it failed remember, what you have is a lot of well off commentators on twitter, that because their feet are further away from the fire don't have the same focus of mind as those that do.  Likewise those with their feet closest to the fire invariably also make reactive, poor decisions and all too often cannibalise their own.  Just another one of the divisions the ultimately powerful people benefit from.  In reality the centrists many people obsess about on here (and I understand why, better the devil you know, but this again is just another helpful division) are just politically naive and are lacking in ideology, but have a platform (something we learnt about JOB for example from his interview with Owen Jones, he is an idiot, likely formed from years at boarding school where he learnt the pitfalls of ideology from elite theory and from the outside, but never understood it's necessitating role in survival for those less privileged - also see his inability to empathises with those people ideologically driven by things like Brexit).  Normally in politics you earn platforms from ideology but this is the world now of Twitter where anyone with something to flog that will get them followers can tell us all their political insights.

I'd say centrism is a lack of ideology above all else.  Also twitter is a magnifying glass for these people, I mean shock horror that a load of comedian, actors and musicians turned out to be narcissists on twitter with crap politics, perhaps artists shouldn't always be held in such esteem (celebritised) in the first place? Over people that humbly go about their business actually making sure the country doesn't collapse in on itself.


If we, the people having this discussion, understand what's meant by the terms (as do you, obviously) why bother trying so intently to muddy the waters?
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 26, 2022, 02:35:22 PM
Quote from: Blumf on May 26, 2022, 01:52:32 PMHow are you defining centrism then?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

I think if you want to apply the No true Scotsman rhetoric here then you are going to need to at least apply it fairly.  No true labour/tory supporter would agree with centrist politics right? Also no true socialist would agree with anything a centrist said?

I'm defining centrism as it is being used currently which is nebulously to define a group of generally well off non-radicals. Aside from the fact "Labour", and, "Tories" are both parties you can vote for The Lib Dems actually do have a much more formed politic.  The poster boy for "centrism" is Blair yet he was the leader of the Labour Party and was/is loathed by the Lib Dems which was one of the reasons they gave (Iraq) for joining the Tories in the coalition.

Matthew D'Ancona is another fabled centrist but is by nature a Tory, he was a wet writing against Corbyn and is now a wet writing against Johnson.  It's a nebulous term that doesn't really equate to how internal political spectrums work (if taken to levels people seem to insist on doing so).
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 26, 2022, 02:40:16 PM
Quote from: Famous Mortimer on May 26, 2022, 02:34:49 PMIf we, the people having this discussion, understand what's meant by the terms (as do you, obviously) why bother trying so intently to muddy the waters?

You the guy that was telling people to fuck off talking about being Jewish again?  I'd perhaps stop being so presumptuous on peoples intentions.

Everyone is trying get one over on you aren't they? You're desperately caught up in a conspiracy to keep leftists down, someone can't just be looking at things differently, there needs be an underhand conscious betrayal, muddying waters and the stealing of socialism.

This is what Twitter and feasting on anger does to you it's fucking melted your mind.  Switch it off.
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Post by: Blumf on May 26, 2022, 03:19:43 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 26, 2022, 02:35:22 PMI'm defining centrism as it is being used currently which is nebulously to define a group of generally well off non-radicals. Aside from the fact "Labour", and, "Tories" are both parties you can vote for The Lib Dems actually do have a much more formed politic.  The poster boy for "centrism" is Blair yet he was the leader of the Labour Party and was/is loathed by the Lib Dems which was one of the reasons they gave (Iraq) for joining the Tories in the coalition.

Blair was a centrists, or at least claimed to be with his Third Way posturing (a centrist position). In action he was mostly right-wing, from his continuation of privatisation through to his war mongering. Even on social policies he struggled, with a very conservative right wing view on drugs and a lukewarm treatment of gay rights. And this is the current criticism of centrists, they claim not to be right wing, but when given the chance always falling to the right.

So, I'd say a working definition of centrist could well be 'embarrassed right winger'. The Lib Dems fit this, with their actual support of a right wing government in the 2010s, back tracking on their stated positions before the election. Blair fits this, as we've already seen. Sir Keith fits this with a purge of left wing members and promoting right wing policies and sexual relations with Union Flags. Dog botherers do this!

So the question is, why are so many people claiming to be centre left or centrist, when in fact they are, by their very actions, right wingers? Why are so many people joining a Socialist party (https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article8917321.ece/ALTERNATES/s510b/labour-membership-card.jpg) who clearly do not believe in left wing politics?

Maybe we shouldn't call them 'centrists', but it seems like a consistent behaviour and that's the name that we have for them now. Liars who support right wing polices.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 26, 2022, 03:26:57 PM
Steadfastly rejecting 'ideology' is an ideology of sorts. It's not a very good or coherent one; centrism is relies on affirmative statements of what it isn't, and vague nebulous word-salads when attempting to define what it is.
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Post by: Cerys on May 26, 2022, 03:32:16 PM
Quote from: pigamus on May 26, 2022, 12:52:40 PMDifferent film I think

I see what you did there.  Mind you, if Boris got impaled by a falling lightning rod it'd make a hell of a front page.
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 26, 2022, 04:25:32 PM
QuoteA Conservative MP has defended Boris Johnson and suggested it was likely NHS staff had also been "letting their hair down" during the Covid pandemic.

Richard Bacon was speaking after Sue Gray's report highlighted the extent of lockdown parties at Downing Street.

Mr Bacon, who represents South Norfolk, said the prime minister should not be "condemned".

Quote"You haven't gone and investigated it but there are one and a half million people who work in the NHS. I bet if you tried hard enough you could find some people letting their hair down who were working 24/7 in the NHS as well.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-61587994

Not quite sure how Bacon expects the BBC to investigate whether anyone in the NHS broke covid rules.
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 26, 2022, 04:26:29 PM
Tory MP Steven Hammond has submitted a letter of no confidence in Johnson.
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 26, 2022, 04:56:17 PM
Quote from: Blumf on May 26, 2022, 03:19:43 PMSo the question is, why are so many people claiming to be centre left or centrist, when in fact they are, by their very actions, right wingers? Why are so many people joining a Socialist party (https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article8917321.ece/ALTERNATES/s510b/labour-membership-card.jpg) who clearly do not believe in left wing politics?

As you outlined it's complicated isn't it people don't always politically coalesce around a coherent narrative - as mentioned it's ideology that does this (for better and for worse).  If you created a massive bit of paper with left and right poles and fired political opinions at it we would see groups of hits around the middle (I suspect it would be darker towards the centre-left and tail off towards the poles), we tend to aggregate political opinions and assign them a label i.e. Tory, Labour etc or Leftwing, Rightwing on the sum of this aggregation but in reality this is clunky what you really need to do it look at spread of opinion across individuals and then look at the interference pattern, it will still be in the middle but you'll see like an interference pattern some opinions are popular and some aren't, and that lots of individuals hold different polar opinions.

outside of the politically motivated most people think they are aligned to rightwing policies but in fact tend to support more leftwing policies (certainly economics ones, they still generally live progressive leftwing politics on identity as well in the main).  We've become much more progressive in our views on identity, certainly for these mainstream "centrists" you are talking about,  but as I'm trying to point out they are affluent, unaffected individuals and therefore have little need or interest in ideological reasoning around leftwing economics.  They simple haven't lived it, I know some comics etc...have lived in run down places, just like well off kids live in shitty accommodation when they go to university, this is very different and it is quite hard for people of a certain background to truly understand the fundamental ideological necessity for socialism and barbarism of poverty (a few affluent people can do this Tony Benn being a great example).

So of course many people are attracted to the "vibes" of socialism because there are inherent advantages to proclaiming a group identity (economic and social) and being seen to be part of the good fight.  It's a low cost, high gain approach that suits a whole manner of environments with Twitter being almost custom made for it all. For a lot of other people being socialist or "left-wing" is  being pro-identity politics and anti-isms, I'm not sure that is something I would cast on centrists, there are a startling amount of non-centrist populist lefties that have no idea about socialism, it's history, you wouldn't even be having this economic vs identity debate if they did. 

I've not said don't call them centrists, I said calling all centrists tories is lazy, either they are tories or centrists, centrists is by and large a negative term used by non-centrists (usually on the left) to refer non-radicals, I've not really heard many people describe themselves un-ironically as centrist.

My main point btw is that these people shouldn't be the focus but are constantly the obsession, the metaphorical fist shaking "if it wasn't for you pesky centrists we would have a leftwing government" that isn't a correct assessment the "left" has lost directly to the right, Blairism (which you correctly identified as being rightwing) is not the centrism of today, ahas a lot to do with the fundamentals of this but even that isn't the whole story and isn't relevant now.  The country (and world for that matter) is kept going largely by leftists sacrificing themselves so that ignorant people don't suffer the brunt of terrible governments, its sucks, you don't need to tell me about.  They way back for the left right now is to stop looking inwards and start appealing to the mainstream again, that means working with centrists (and right-wingers for that matter) and shaping their views to the left, if you are in anyway comfortable and dedicated to your personal ideology there is nothing to fear about this, it's what you do to gain power, power that you can then use for socialism.
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 26, 2022, 04:58:05 PM
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on May 26, 2022, 03:26:57 PMSteadfastly rejecting 'ideology' is an ideology of sorts. It's not a very good or coherent one; centrism is relies on affirmative statements of what it isn't, and vague nebulous word-salads when attempting to define what it is.

"Centrists" don't steadfastly reject ideology, I said it is a lack of, not a rejection of.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 26, 2022, 05:03:27 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 26, 2022, 04:58:05 PM"Centrists" don't steadfastly reject ideology, I said it is a lack of, not a rejection of.
I think many do. And spare me the semantic pedantry, I didn't quote you, so what makes you think I was basing my claim they reject ideology entirely on all the shit you typed?
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Post by: Goldentony on May 26, 2022, 05:11:49 PM
Quote from: Cerys on May 26, 2022, 11:42:04 AMThat's where I first saw Flatliners.  Maybe it's an omen.

I thought it was Flatliners
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 26, 2022, 05:34:54 PM
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on May 26, 2022, 05:03:27 PMI think many do. And spare me the semantic pedantry, I didn't quote you, so what makes you think I was basing my claim they reject ideology entirely on all the shit you typed?

Sorry to pedant you semantically but I thought you were referring to what I said and misread it - I'm not sure that is worth getting too upset about though.

I kind of agree with you, some centrists do steadfastly disagree with ideology the problem is they never really explain or understand what "ideologies" enmasse are, they can point to ideologies of the right saying I can see how fascism is bad but they nearly always struggle explaining why socialism is bad, reverting to Stalinism and 20th century Communism in it's place.  So they don't really understand leftwing ideology from a bottom up situation, they study it in their public schools which tells them how leftwing ideology is a threat to how the country is run.  Well they are right, but they don't seem to understand why that is a good thing for the majority of people.

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Johnny Yesno on May 26, 2022, 08:34:08 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 26, 2022, 04:58:05 PM"Centrists" don't steadfastly reject ideology, I said it is a lack of, not a rejection of.

That the so-called 'centrists' are seen to have no ideology is their most successful con.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Johnny Yesno on May 26, 2022, 08:40:01 PM
Quote from: Beagle 2 on May 26, 2022, 06:46:35 AMhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61584546

The cynicism of the timing of this announcement. So blatant.

Oh, look, here's a no ideology so-called 'centrist':

QuotePaul Johnson, director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, said offering a universal payment would mean a lot of the money would go to households who "don't desperately need it".

He also warned putting billions of pounds into the economy at a time when prices were rising quickly "could stoke additional demand and make inflation much more permanent".

You can't take money from rich fossil fuel corporations and give it to ordinary people to help towards the real terms decline in their incomes. We'll end up in an economic death spiral caused by people turning on more and more lights and heaters. That's just a fact and BBC news are doing well not to challenge it otherwise everyone will laugh at them.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 26, 2022, 09:38:09 PM
Quote from: Johnny Yesno on May 26, 2022, 08:40:01 PMOh, look, here's a no ideology so-called 'centrist':

You can't take money from rich fossil fuel corporations and give it to ordinary people to help towards the real terms decline in their incomes. We'll end up in an economic death spiral caused by people turning on more and more lights and heaters. That's just a fact and BBC news are doing well not to challenge it otherwise everyone will laugh at them.

Anything to hide the small print I suppose.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTr19H7XEAA2p3p?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Johnny Yesno on May 26, 2022, 11:50:31 PM
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on May 26, 2022, 09:38:09 PMAnything to hide the small print I suppose.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTr19H7XEAA2p3p?format=jpg&name=medium)

'Sensible middle ground' lol.

Where is that small print from, btw?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 26, 2022, 11:53:44 PM
BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61590957

Better info here:
https://twitter.com/chappersmk/status/1529838700795936769
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Johnny Yesno on May 27, 2022, 12:03:17 AM
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on May 26, 2022, 11:53:44 PMBBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61590957

Better info here:
https://twitter.com/chappersmk/status/1529838700795936769

Cheers.

QuoteMr Sunak said: "We should not be ideological about this, we should be pragmatic.

And all the so-called 'centrists', who had no ideology, applauded his pragmatism while seeing the value of their investments increase.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Johnny Yesno on May 27, 2022, 12:09:40 AM
QuoteHe added: "There is nothing noble in burdening future generations with ever more debt today because politicians of the day were too weak to make the tough decisions."

This was bollocks the first time round and it killed a lot of people, but BBC news still publish this crap unchallenged.

Austerity 2.0.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 27, 2022, 12:11:30 AM
it's probably easier for future generations to deal with a bit of debt than climate bombs and shit.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Pink Gregory on May 27, 2022, 01:42:20 AM
Quote from: Blumf on May 26, 2022, 01:37:35 PMUm.. the Liberal Democrats? (itself formed from the Liberal Party and the centrist Labour breakaway Social Democratic Party). Remember how it was the party to happily cosy up to the Tories back in 2010.

Arguably the combination of the liberal party and the SDP form a centre-right party - as far as I'm concerned, liberalism as a political project *is* a right wing ideology, as it is ultimately more concerned with the individual than the collective, and is very compatible with privatisation and the free market.

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: olliebean on May 27, 2022, 11:08:37 AM
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on May 26, 2022, 09:38:09 PMAnything to hide the small print I suppose.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTr19H7XEAA2p3p?format=jpg&name=medium)

No such incentives for investing in green energy? So they are essentially being massively incentivised to keep destroying the planet?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on May 27, 2022, 01:04:25 PM
IT'S A BIG BAZOOKA
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Darles Chickens on May 27, 2022, 04:04:39 PM
Who saw this coming then? I sure as hell didn't.

Boris Johnson changes ministerial code to avoid need to resign over breaches (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/27/boris-johnson-changes-ministerial-code-to-remove-need-to-resign-over-breaches)

There's yer totalitarian regime right there. Just a step away from abolishing regular elections. They just do what they want now.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on May 27, 2022, 04:49:29 PM
Ffffffuck. Imagine a chinless blonde toff stamping on a human face forever. Oh no need, here he is.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: GoblinAhFuckScary on May 27, 2022, 08:07:43 PM
haha my totalitarian hell i love it here haha!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 27, 2022, 09:04:03 PM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/2687692/Tory-MP-Michael-Fabricant-forced-to-eat-coffee-whitener-at-gunpoint.html (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/2687692/Tory-MP-Michael-Fabricant-forced-to-eat-coffee-whitener-at-gunpoint.html)

has someone told Peter Kay?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zero Gravitas on May 28, 2022, 03:10:22 AM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 27, 2022, 09:04:03 PMhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/2687692/Tory-MP-Michael-Fabricant-forced-to-eat-coffee-whitener-at-gunpoint.html (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/2687692/Tory-MP-Michael-Fabricant-forced-to-eat-coffee-whitener-at-gunpoint.html)

has someone told Peter Kay?

QuoteMr Fabricant, 58, was trekking in the Santa Marta region of northern Columbia when, last Saturday, he and his travelling companion were approached by the armed soldiers, wearing full combat gear and carrying M-16 assault rifles and machine guns.

He said: "They started talking to us but they were speaking in Spanish and I don't speak Spanish so things didn't go too well.

"Then they started looking in my backpack and came across a small jar of Coffeemate. They started to say something about raw cocaine.

"I was saying Coffeemate over and over and they were holding the jar up and shouting 'cocaine, cocaine'. It was extremely frightening.

"I asked them to try it but apparently I have learned since that raw cocaine is pretty poisonous so they made me eat it instead. I had to eat about three tablespoons of it while they watched intently to see if I was going to go loopy.

"It was quite vomit-inducing and I was trying not to be sick, but when they saw I wasn't going to die they relaxed a bit and let me on my way."

"I'm glad I wasn't sick because that would have heightened their suspicions and who knows what would have happened."

Why lie like that? Worst google obfuscation ploy yet!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 28, 2022, 07:50:13 AM
Coffee's brown dickhead
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: superthunderstingcar on May 28, 2022, 11:20:06 AM
"What they didn't know is I spent the last few years building up an immunity to cocaine powder."
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on May 28, 2022, 03:48:48 PM
Quote from: Darles Chickens on May 27, 2022, 04:04:39 PMWho saw this coming then? I sure as hell didn't.

Boris Johnson changes ministerial code to avoid need to resign over breaches (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/27/boris-johnson-changes-ministerial-code-to-remove-need-to-resign-over-breaches)

There's yer totalitarian regime right there. Just a step away from abolishing regular elections. They just do what they want now.

It is insane to me that people will still vote tory.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 28, 2022, 10:38:02 PM
Imperial measurements bullshit to win back Tory voters. We're not far away from a promise to bring back pre decimal coinage, lead in petrol and a landline phone in every house.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JamesTC on May 28, 2022, 10:50:31 PM
Bring back asbestos to solve the energy crisis.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: GoblinAhFuckScary on May 28, 2022, 11:02:10 PM
BRING BACK ANGIN
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zetetic on May 29, 2022, 08:01:35 AM
I wish we had actually killed the metric martyrs. That'd be something to hold on to at least.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Darles Chickens on May 29, 2022, 08:13:37 AM
Calling it now:

"Now is not the time for a general election; we must deliver our promises to the British people."

Fixed term parliament act already repealed as far as I remember.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: pigamus on May 29, 2022, 08:40:47 AM
Yeah but that just took away his power to call and an election whenever he liked - there still needs to be an election within five years of the last one.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Attila on May 29, 2022, 08:43:37 AM
Quote from: superthunderstingcar on May 28, 2022, 11:20:06 AM"What they didn't know is I spent the last few years building up an immunity to cocaine powder."

Inconceivable!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Darles Chickens on May 29, 2022, 08:52:28 AM
Quote from: pigamus on May 29, 2022, 08:40:47 AMYeah but that just took away his power to call and an election whenever he liked - there still needs to be an election within five years of the last one.

I don't quite believe that this would happen, but their recent tendency to bulldoze legislation and parliamentary conventions means that nothing would surprise me.  Where is "elections every five years" codified?  If they can just freely rewrite the ministerial code without oversight, where does this stop?  They removed references to honesty, integrity, transparency and accountability, which makes it easier to underhandedly do whatever they want.

Not that elections aren't already rigged in their favour anyway.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: pigamus on May 29, 2022, 09:15:13 AM
Well the ministerial code isn't really a thing. It doesn't have any legal or constitutional status. Changing the election law would be a bit trickier. But like you say, you can't put anything past these bastards.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: olliebean on May 29, 2022, 11:34:02 AM
I could certainly see them confecting some national emergency that "required" a "stable" government, and therefore the suspension of national elections for the time being.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Blinder Data on May 29, 2022, 01:39:48 PM
there'll be an election but I wouldn't put it past them keeping this dead government going until the last possible moment in the hope that something turns up to save them.

January 2025 election, yeah boi!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: SteveDave on May 30, 2022, 08:42:16 AM
The cunt was in Hastings yesterday. Wearing a suit with a bobble hat on the beach with a tent full of wine. His dog tried to shag my friends dog and some Secret Service goons with guns shooed my friend away when he tried to take a photo.

If the flabby shit (Johnson) is still there on Tuesday, I will be getting shot. Avenge my death.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 30, 2022, 10:09:15 AM
It's disgraceful that your friend was prevented from taking a photo of the Prime Minister in a public place.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Norton Canes on May 30, 2022, 10:12:24 AM
Quote from: SteveDave on May 30, 2022, 08:42:16 AMThe cunt was in Hastings yesterday. Wearing a suit with a bobble hat on the beach with a tent full of wine

What? Was this an official engagement (opening a wine tent?) or some kind of recreational visit? Was he just sat bored in no.10 before picking the phone up and going "Take me to Hastings and get me a tent of wine"? Was he with anyone?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Blinder Data on May 30, 2022, 12:20:19 PM
Will the Tories make their move after they lose both by-elections on 23 June? Probably not.

Will they after the parliamentary inquiry reports back some time in the Autumn? It looks like the timing could disrupt the conference season. I think they might prefer not to kick off a contest until later in the year.

I think if they don't move before the end of the year, or he sees off a challenge, they are stuck with him till the next GE. This thread will keep rolling on...

Next year's big moment is when the COVID-19 inquiry gets going. Cummings and the other officials who hate Johnson will presumably have saved all their emails for that one, so it'll be uncomfortable. But the thing that will do for him is the economy tanking lower and lower as the public's bills go up and up. They will have to take long run-up to give the Tories a kicking at the next GE.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 30, 2022, 12:43:07 PM
Quote from: Norton Canes on May 30, 2022, 10:12:24 AMWhat? Was this an official engagement (opening a wine tent?) or some kind of recreational visit? Was he just sat bored in no.10 before picking the phone up and going "Take me to Hastings and get me a tent of wine"? Was he with anyone?

It was his wedding anniversary yesterday.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Paul Calf on May 30, 2022, 01:30:31 PM
Quote from: Blinder Data on May 30, 2022, 12:20:19 PMThey will have to take long run-up to give the Tories a kicking at the next GE.

The Tories are already gerrymandering constituencies to lock in a majority, and voter id requirements will take care of much of the rest of it.

Plus, of course, they'll cheat. We've seen our last free and fair election for some time.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Blinder Data on May 30, 2022, 03:29:58 PM
Quote from: Paul Calf on May 30, 2022, 01:30:31 PMThe Tories are already gerrymandering constituencies to lock in a majority, and voter id requirements will take care of much of the rest of it.

Plus, of course, they'll cheat. We've seen our last free and fair election for some time.

The Tories and their media allies will throw the kitchen sink at getting a fifth term but I think "events" will boot them out of office. Just look at what happened in Australia: an unimpressive performance from Labour and yet they end up as winners because the Liberals got hammered.

Anyway, what I wrote this morning might already be out of date - there are rumours that a vote of confidence will be called on Monday.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on May 30, 2022, 07:39:53 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 28, 2022, 07:50:13 AMCoffee's brown dickhead

Tories prefer to whiten everything.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: pigamus on May 30, 2022, 07:49:06 PM
Quote from: Blinder Data on May 30, 2022, 03:29:58 PMAnyway, what I wrote this morning might already be out of date - there are rumours that a vote of confidence will be called on Monday.

It's all a bit pointless if there's no credible replacement on the horizon, it just makes him safe for a year
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: greencalx on May 30, 2022, 08:02:08 PM
Quote from: pigamus on May 30, 2022, 07:49:06 PMIt's all a bit pointless if there's no credible replacement on the horizon, it just makes him safe for a year

Which is what this is for. Wouldn't surprise me if he'd put a letter in himself.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: SteveDave on May 30, 2022, 09:25:59 PM
Quote from: Norton Canes on May 30, 2022, 10:12:24 AMWhat? Was this an official engagement (opening a wine tent?) or some kind of recreational visit? Was he just sat bored in no.10 before picking the phone up and going "Take me to Hastings and get me a tent of wine"? Was he with anyone?

From the faraway photo my friend took it looked like his awful wife and their shithead child was with them.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Das Reboot on May 31, 2022, 06:38:00 AM
This government is maimed, but it cannot be shamed. Will it be fucked? I'm doubtful.

Calling it now: Better start thinking what we're going to call the third thread, lads.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Mr_Simnock on May 31, 2022, 10:10:16 AM
If he wins a challenge they are fucked next ellection, they have to change to retain a majority.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on May 31, 2022, 01:21:26 PM
Leadsom's on his case. Even getting it from brexit-fetishist deeply unpleasant right-wing imbeciles now.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on May 31, 2022, 01:27:26 PM
They will work out the optimum time for changing leader, based on things like making sure none of the current stink sticks to the new person yet giving them enough time to bed in as a personality.

Or maybe they want to lose the next election, and let a centrist Labour Party take the hit for the state the Tories leave the country in but not make any meaningful changes while the Tories reconfigure.

Unfortunately the Tories will continue to say that the cost of living crisis comes from necessary steps taken during the pandemic, and people will believe them.  It'll be processed long term as "acceptable" in a way the financial crash of 2008 wasn't.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on May 31, 2022, 01:30:51 PM
One of the best strategies Labour could follow right now is dropping their focus on Johnson, identifying the next candidate for Tory leader, and heaping shit onto them in advance of their ascension.

All Tories have skeletons in their closets and now will be the time to dig them out.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Blumf on May 31, 2022, 01:34:56 PM
Quote from: Replies From View on May 31, 2022, 01:30:51 PMOne of the best strategies Labour could follow right now is dropping their focus on Johnson, identifying the next candidate for Tory leader, and heaping shit onto them in advance of their ascension.

We're back to the question of who could replace Johnson? Especially now Sunak has been trashed.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 31, 2022, 01:46:42 PM
Quote from: Replies From View on May 31, 2022, 01:27:26 PMThey will work out the optimum time for changing leader, based on things like making sure none of the current stink sticks to the new person yet giving them enough time to bed in as a personality.

Don't forget letting him get through a load of horrid (red meat) polices that can then be distanced to previous management (but still kept in place obviously)

QuoteOr maybe they want to lose the next election, and let a centrist Labour Party take the hit for the state the Tories leave the country in but not make any meaningful changes while the Tories reconfigure.

This also.  The Tories essentially, this iteration more than any other, are a bunch of financier brokers that are looking manage the country to the benefit of their lobbyists.  They do this for as long as they can before getting found out and kicked out, then the humble roots of some well meaning wets takes over and attempt to build the party up again for another attempt to gorge themselves on public trust - rinse and repeat.  This is the problem with just constantly viewing shit Labour as the shittiest of the shit, when all the approximate centrist hoodwinking, corporate interests and removal of democratic accountability is done on steroids in the Tory Party. 

Both parties do it some degree because we live in a world where powerful people have a lot of influence and political parties (even Corbyn would have had to do this) have to work in a mixed economy, but the idea that Labour are anywhere near the levels of corruption the Tories operate under is just counter to reality.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Blinder Data on May 31, 2022, 02:24:45 PM
Quote from: Blumf on May 31, 2022, 01:34:56 PMWe're back to the question of who could replace Johnson? Especially now Sunak has been trashed.

Quite. So far it's been better the devil you know.

There's no frontrunner anymore so they risk replacing Johnson with an oddball like Truss. I could see Ben Wallace being pushed as the "safe hands" option, and maybe a dull seemingly effective PM could beat similarly low-energy Starmer at the next GE.

Whoever takes over will come up against rising inflation, energy/food costs, and a Tory party that is totally split on how to respond. I don't expect Johnson's successor to fare well, whoever they are.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Famous Mortimer on May 31, 2022, 02:48:49 PM
Quote from: Replies From View on May 31, 2022, 01:30:51 PMOne of the best strategies Labour could follow right now is dropping their focus on Johnson, identifying the next candidate for Tory leader, and heaping shit onto them in advance of their ascension.

All Tories have skeletons in their closets and now will be the time to dig them out.
Or they could concentrate on formulating and communicating their policies to the British public.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Paul Calf on May 31, 2022, 03:09:24 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 31, 2022, 01:46:42 PMDon't forget letting him get through a load of horrid (red meat) polices that can then be distanced to previous management (but still kept in place obviously)

This also.  The Tories essentially, this iteration more than any other, are a bunch of financier brokers that are looking manage the country to the benefit of their lobbyists.  They do this for as long as they can before getting found out and kicked out, then the humble roots of some well meaning wets takes over and attempt to build the party up again for another attempt to gorge themselves on public trust - rinse and repeat.  This is the problem with just constantly viewing shit Labour as the shittiest of the shit, when all the approximate centrist hoodwinking, corporate interests and removal of democratic accountability is done on steroids in the Tory Party. 

Both parties do it some degree because we live in a world where powerful people have a lot of influence and political parties (even Corbyn would have had to do this) have to work in a mixed economy, but the idea that Labour are anywhere near the levels of corruption the Tories operate under is just counter to reality.


Yeah.

I mean, governments can change things to make it harder for a future government to corruptly enrich themselves rather than gently lubing the loopholes and fucking themselves silly at the pig orgy but I see the bar's been beaten so low that we now consider this to be well above the abilities of a Labour government.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 31, 2022, 03:20:30 PM
I put something as proactive as 'being able to accurately guess the next potential leader and dig up dirt ahead of time' well beyond the abilities of the current Labour party.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: olliebean on May 31, 2022, 03:25:47 PM
I honestly think those of the Tories who are still publicly supporting him have painted themselves into a corner. What else is possibly going to be revealed now, that they can credibly claim "This was the thing that made me realise he was a wrong-un"?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on May 31, 2022, 03:30:55 PM
Quote from: Famous Mortimer on May 31, 2022, 02:48:49 PMOr they could concentrate on formulating and communicating their policies to the British public.

This does not exclude what I have said.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on May 31, 2022, 03:34:18 PM
Quote from: olliebean on May 31, 2022, 03:25:47 PMI honestly think those of the Tories who are still publicly supporting him have painted themselves into a corner. What else is possibly going to be revealed now, that they can credibly claim "This was the thing that made me realise he was a wrong-un"?

According to the Guardian those who have voiced doubts are getting phone calls offering them promotions if they back Big Muthafuckin Dawg. All of em?

And the Science Minister has basically said "you knew he was a cunt when you voted him in so what you whining about?" which is a fair point of you're making it to a Tory.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on May 31, 2022, 03:35:05 PM
Quote from: olliebean on May 31, 2022, 03:25:47 PMI honestly think those of the Tories who are still publicly supporting him have painted themselves into a corner. What else is possibly going to be revealed now, that they can credibly claim "This was the thing that made me realise he was a wrong-un"?

Boris Johnson has secretly been saving homeless people from death, fed, clothed and housed them using his own money.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 31, 2022, 03:38:57 PM
Quote from: Replies From View on May 31, 2022, 03:35:05 PMBoris Johnson has secretly been saving homeless people from death, fed, clothed and housed them using his own money.

well 7 or 8 of them
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on May 31, 2022, 03:39:46 PM
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on May 31, 2022, 03:38:57 PMwell 7 or 8 of them

Nah, tons.  Tons of 'em.  Full-on socialist, mate.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on May 31, 2022, 06:53:35 PM
This is it. He's finished now!

QuoteBoris Johnson's standards adviser says there is a "legitimate question" over whether the PM broke the ministerial code after getting fined for Partygate.

Lord Geidt said he repeatedly told the PM's team to be ready to explain if his actions stuck within the rules - even if he thought there was no breach.

But he said the advice had not been "heeded", calling on Mr Johnson to set out his case to the public.

The prime minister said he does not consider his fine to be a breach.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: GoblinAhFuckScary on May 31, 2022, 11:16:55 PM
this time boris has got to go!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Famous Mortimer on June 01, 2022, 02:59:39 PM
Quote from: GoblinAhFuckScary on May 31, 2022, 11:16:55 PMthis time boris has got to go!!!!!!!!!
Emma! Please use your Twitter clout to bring back "Planet Mirth"!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 01, 2022, 03:07:15 PM
In Germany they are allowing people to travel on all local and regional trains, buses and metro services for 9 euros a month for the next three months to reduce the cost of living. Meanwhile here billionaire Sunak offers a few crumbs and expects people to be grateful.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Des Wigwam on June 01, 2022, 04:50:45 PM
Where did I see that Johnson has re-written the ministerial code to remove Honesty and Integrity wording? Not doing the lazy "did I dream it" thing but was it a dream? I have a very vivd memory of seeing it. Here would be the obvious place but can't see it.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Famous Mortimer on June 01, 2022, 05:23:20 PM
Quote from: Des Wigwam on June 01, 2022, 04:50:45 PMWhere did I see that Johnson has re-written the ministerial code to remove Honesty and Integrity wording? Not doing the lazy "did I dream it" thing but was it a dream? I have a very vivd memory of seeing it. Here would be the obvious place but can't see it.
On page 15 of this very thread:

Quote from: Darles Chickens on May 27, 2022, 04:04:39 PMWho saw this coming then? I sure as hell didn't.

Boris Johnson changes ministerial code to avoid need to resign over breaches (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/27/boris-johnson-changes-ministerial-code-to-remove-need-to-resign-over-breaches)

There's yer totalitarian regime right there. Just a step away from abolishing regular elections. They just do what they want now.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Des Wigwam on June 01, 2022, 06:54:56 PM
Quote from: Famous Mortimer on June 01, 2022, 05:23:20 PMOn page 15 of this very thread:


Thanks. Couldn't see it for looking.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 02, 2022, 06:00:41 PM
Johnson's latest excuse is that it would be irresponsbile of him to resign.

QuoteOne user asked: "Why should we believe anything you say when it's been proven you're a habitual liar?"

Mr Johnson said he did not accept the description or the premise of the question. "People throw all sorts of accusations at me about all sorts of things ... you've just got to look at the record of what I deliver," he said.

The prime minister went on to be asked if he would resign over the Partygate scandal. "I cannot see how it would be responsible right now, with everything that's going on, simply to abandon ... the project on which I embarked," he said...

Remind me how loyal he was to the previous Prime Minister? And what project has he embarked on? The one of enjoying the trappings of office and sneering at the public?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-mumsnet-resignation-no-confidence-latest-b2092434.html
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 03, 2022, 11:06:14 AM
Simpsons reference writes itself

https://twitter.com/vicderbyshire/status/1532660093489119233
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: GoblinAhFuckScary on June 03, 2022, 11:37:56 AM
Quote from: idunnosomename on June 03, 2022, 11:06:14 AMSimpsons reference writes itself

https://twitter.com/vicderbyshire/status/1532660093489119233

honestly thought this reply was TBEU

(https://i.imgur.com/Olmttis.png)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Darles Chickens on June 03, 2022, 11:43:08 AM
Michael Take
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Butchers Blind on June 03, 2022, 11:54:49 AM
But I thought the tories told us everyone wants to move on.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 03, 2022, 12:09:09 PM
Glad they got through the violent booing safely.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on June 03, 2022, 12:13:57 PM
Our PM is one brave boy. Did you see him walk up them steps? Gor bless im.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 03, 2022, 12:43:48 PM
BBC News claims Johnson arrived to a mixture of boos and cheers. I didn't hear any cheers in the video.

I imagine the sort of person who travels to see the Royal Family is quite conservative so  it's pretty telling.
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Post by: Blumf on June 03, 2022, 12:48:06 PM
No no, they're saying "Boo-oris"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: SpiderChrist on June 03, 2022, 01:15:34 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 03, 2022, 12:43:48 PMBBC News claims Johnson arrived to a mixture of boos and cheers. I didn't hear any cheers in the video.

I imagine the sort of person who travels to see the Royal Family is quite conservative so  it's pretty telling.

They're only booing cos of all that Phil funeral "poor old lady sat all alone" bollocks. They'll all be voting conservative next election, the forelock-tugging cunts.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 03, 2022, 03:56:08 PM
in case of "violent booing" who ya gonna call?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Darles Chickens on June 03, 2022, 04:21:56 PM
Quote from: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 03, 2022, 03:56:08 PMin case of "violent booing" who ya gonna call?

Is it Ghostbusters 2?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 05, 2022, 01:12:41 PM
Hans Moleman writes... (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/05/boris-johnson-booed-jubilee-grant-shapps)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 05, 2022, 01:47:50 PM
Smithers, to be accurate. Hans Moleman represents the tiny minority that is Boris Johnson's boomer base in the party membership who bought into his Churchillian patriot shit and are too deluded to admit they're wrong
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 05, 2022, 03:50:39 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on June 05, 2022, 01:47:50 PMSmithers, to be accurate. Hans Moleman represents the tiny minority that is Boris Johnson's boomer base in the party membership who bought into his Churchillian patriot shit and are too deluded to admit they're wrong

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-TeCvTHHgWlY%2FTyhiwLOGIMI%2FAAAAAAAAAUg%2FzC_XbdYyxeE%2Fs1600%2Fcomic_book_guy.png&f=1&nofb=1)

This is a Snagglepuss.



Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 05, 2022, 05:24:50 PM
Johnson booed as he arrives at the "Party at the Palace"

https://twitter.com/allymc29/status/1533205190404460556
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 05, 2022, 09:34:48 PM
At least one major Tory donor has called for Johnson's removal:

From The Times:

Quote...In a second worrying development for Johnson, a Conservative donor who has given more than £340,000 to the party since 2010 has demanded the prime minister's removal. The financier Michael Tory, the founder of Ondra Partners, says that unless Johnson is replaced, the Tories face ten years in the wilderness.

"I was a loyal and longstanding donor but can only resume donating if there is an immediate change of leadership," he said. "And it has to be now — before it's too late to avoid a richly deserved obliteration at the next election, followed probably by a decade in opposition."...

The Times also says that one Tory MP believes 67 letters of no confidence have gone in against Johnson. Still, we know how easily Johnson wriggles out of things so we can't get our hopes up too much.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: superthunderstingcar on June 05, 2022, 09:51:31 PM
Quote from: The Times on June 05, 2022, 09:34:48 PMMichael Tory
A man who loves the Tories so much, he even changed his name.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 05, 2022, 09:54:08 PM
its helpful because otherwise I wouldn't know what political party a financier might support
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 05, 2022, 09:58:01 PM
He's called Larry Lib-Dem now
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Butchers Blind on June 05, 2022, 10:00:54 PM
"Hello, my name's David Plaid Cymru"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 05, 2022, 10:06:46 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 05, 2022, 09:34:48 PMThe financier Michael Tory, the founder of Ondra Partners, says that unless Johnson is replaced, the Tories face ten years in the wilderness.

Strangely specific (i.e. the amount of time it will take for people like him to cause a financial crash).
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Post by: Norton Canes on June 05, 2022, 10:13:08 PM
QuoteThe financier Michael Tory, the founder of Ondra Partners, says that unless Johnson is replaced, the Tories face ten years in the wilderness

Or 'government', as it's better known
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Mr_Simnock on June 05, 2022, 10:40:04 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 05, 2022, 09:34:48 PMAt least one major Tory donor has called for Johnson's removal:

From The Times:

The Times also says that one Tory MP believes 67 letters of no confidence have gone in against Johnson. Still, we know how easily Johnson wriggles out of things so we can't get our hopes up too much.


I hope we have a leadership challenge and it turns into a long protracted affair that daft mop headed cunt wins, then he tries to purge more long standing MP's from the party, they lurch further more right wing then he drags them all down at the next election where he even loses his own seat. I want to see mop headed cunt leave in the most undignified way possible.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Cerys on June 06, 2022, 12:17:12 AM
Quote from: Butchers Blind on June 05, 2022, 10:00:54 PM"Hello, my name's David Plaid Cymru"

Dafydd Plaid Cymru, shurely?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: lipsink on June 06, 2022, 07:57:19 AM
JOB has done another "savage takedown" of Boris, lads. Don't know how he'll survive this!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on June 06, 2022, 08:04:24 AM
Quote from: superthunderstingcar on June 05, 2022, 09:51:31 PMA man who loves the Tories so much, he even changed his name.


A likely Tory
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Mobius on June 06, 2022, 08:11:44 AM
Graham Brady about to do a speech, sounds like they've got the votes now.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 06, 2022, 08:18:58 AM
Right, he's a gonner, unless the Tory MPs bottle it.

Fuck, he's going to win, isn't he?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 06, 2022, 08:20:09 AM
Ballot is this evening.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: SpiderChrist on June 06, 2022, 08:30:22 AM
Quote from: Alberon on June 06, 2022, 08:18:58 AMRight, he's a gonner, unless the Tory MPs bottle it.

Fuck, he's going to win, isn't he?


You're not suggesting that Tory MPs are moral vacuums with an eye only for their own survival, are you? Scandalous accusation.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 08:38:23 AM
He is going to win in so its all about the margin.  This is actually the best outcome.  They can't get rid of him for a year which then means another VONC is perilously close to the next GE.

In reality the most likely outcome is he survives but this is the firing shot for a challenger to come forward which will lead to him eventually having to stand aside.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 08:45:15 AM
Of course he's going to win

Appalling timing and doing it today is a stitch up (although one allowed by the rules apparently)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 09:09:28 AM
Quote from: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 08:45:15 AMOf course he's going to win

Appalling timing and doing it today is a stitch up (although one allowed by the rules apparently)

How do you mean?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 09:10:56 AM
DARE I DREAM?!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Paul Calf on June 06, 2022, 09:11:38 AM
He'll be gone sooner or later. He's an arrogant, selfish child but the Tory Party have been eating these for breakfast for nearly 200 years. He is genuinely unpopular and there's no way he'll be allowed to take them down just as they're cementing their hold on power. The more he fights, the more damage he'll do and he's as establishment as they come so he won't be made to go involuntarily.

He's got a target on his back and they're just starting to feel the pressure of another election cycle - they won't want to leave it until the last minute (2025) so I'm betting - bar an opportunistic snap election - Spring 2024. It might be that they've decided to hand it over to the second team for a couple of terms now they've been neutered, to get some spending pumped back into the economy to prime it for more theft and privatisation, but I suspect that playing to lose is against the instincts of the vast majority of Tories.

Prediction: Johnson gone by the end of the year, quiet moves to rejoin single market to ease the cost of living crisis after his foetid, sweaty mass has been heaved out of Downing Street.

Either that or some cheapo bullshit stimulus package from Sunak in the 2022/23 budgets that looks pretty but helps no-one.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 09:12:27 AM
Situations like this seem almost perfectly designed to crush my naive, blind optimism.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 06, 2022, 09:17:05 AM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 09:09:28 AMHow do you mean?

The rules allow the leader to decide the date and time of the vote. He's doing it tonight so that his opponents have less time to coordinate.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 09:19:52 AM
Quote from: Huxleys Babkins on June 06, 2022, 09:17:05 AMThe rules allow the leader to decide the date and time of the vote. He's doing it tonight so that his opponents have less time to coordinate.

I image it suits most in the party to get it over with as soon as possible.  He isn't going to lose and it will be better for Labour if he stays for as long as possible (as per PCs point).

If he can piss off as many people in the process even better.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 06, 2022, 09:43:35 AM
I might be being too optimistic but I'm hoping that even if he wins the VONC by a massive margin, even having a VONC in his leadership will anger him as it goes against his "world king" fantasy which he has been cosplaying as since he became PM.

He wants to believe that he as absolute power in the party and that all his MPs love him. I dont want to sound like Kennedy but even if this VONC does nothing I will enjoy the anger it will give him.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 09:45:48 AM
It's definitely not easily overlooked. He can write off outside criticism as being from smelly student commies or whatever dated stereotype he'd be lazy enough to trot out. Less easy to dismiss it when it's coming from Tory MPs themselves.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Paul Calf on June 06, 2022, 09:51:41 AM
I suspect his view of his MPs - particularly the backbenchers - isn't much removed from his view of civilians. There's Alexander The Great and then there's everyone else, and while he might occasionally condescend to crack wise with the odd wealthy Tory MP or donor, it's his world and they just all live in it.

I know people like this. The rest of the world is just a supporting cast to them.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: DrGreggles on June 06, 2022, 09:54:45 AM
Was the mass booing by a crowd of Royalists (who are probably core Tory voters) the final straw?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JohnnyCouncil on June 06, 2022, 10:14:43 AM
By all accounts the votes were already in (with a provision not to act on it before the Lovely Jubberly).

Can't help though.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 10:17:22 AM
Can you lie to your MP? If you have a Tory MP can you e-mail them and say "I voted for you last time and I want you to know that if you vote in favour of Boris Johnson then I will be unable to give you my vote again"? Can you do that even if they're not your MP? Can you send that e-mail to every single Tory MP?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Pseudopath on June 06, 2022, 10:20:22 AM
Quote from: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 10:17:22 AMCan you lie to your MP? If you have a Tory MP can you e-mail them and say "I voted for you last time and I want you to know that if you vote in favour of Boris Johnson then I will be unable to give you my vote again"? Can you do that even if they're not your MP? Can you send that e-mail to every single Tory MP?

It's a secret ballot, so I can't imagine that would have much effect.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: DrGreggles on June 06, 2022, 10:23:19 AM
Could affect how the vote goes though.
These Tory MP's first consideration will be to save their own arses and Johnson's unpopularity, rightly or wrongly, reflects badly on everyone in a blue rosette.
There's going to be quite a few of them who towed the party line over 'Partygate' and have been made to look pretty foolish.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 10:25:56 AM
Quote from: Pseudopath on June 06, 2022, 10:20:22 AMIt's a secret ballot, so I can't imagine that would have much effect.

Can you pretend to be your MP and so tell them you'll know what vote they, and therefore yourself, will cast?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 10:27:15 AM
I just want more than life itself for this wannabe Churchill to not even finish his first term because his own MPs think he's too shit to have handled a national crisis.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 10:44:16 AM
If he loses does Rory Stewart become PM?

SQUEEEEEEE!!!!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on June 06, 2022, 10:56:03 AM
Nauseating interview with Jacob rees Mogg on sky now. Smug, supercilious, pretending to be detached and unphased like a teenaged hipster.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 11:17:56 AM
What must it be like to live like Jacob Rees-Mogg, a man swaddled in the costume of principle and honour despite being an absolute fucking void of the stuff?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 11:55:53 AM
Now his "Anti-corruption champion" has resigned.

What a fine job he did.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Blinder Data on June 06, 2022, 11:57:07 AM
I think if the vote had happened after the 23 June by-elections he would lose. He will win but it's all about how slim his margin of victory is. Unless we serious Cabinet resignations, nothing much will change and he will cling on.

There's the parliamentary report still to come. If polling doesn't improve and more and more MPs lose faith, I imagine the 1922 committee will change the one-year rule as they threatened to do with May (she resigned shortly after).

PM Liz Truss by Christmas, probs.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Beagle 2 on June 06, 2022, 11:58:53 AM
He got booed in front of are nation's mummy
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 11:59:51 AM
And he partied before mummy went to daddy's funeral.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: lipsink on June 06, 2022, 12:05:02 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUgz0tLWUAgB1AM?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 06, 2022, 12:07:05 PM
From The Torygraph who seem solidly against Johnson.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUkCgpUWYAAoEE1?format=jpg&name=small)

He just has to last to Wednesday and he beats Gordon Brown's time in office. Theresa May's record seems well out of reach for him.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 06, 2022, 12:36:47 PM
Dorries has made an attack on Hunt on Twitter, clearly she doesn't think he will be the next PM.

I think it will be Wallace or Mordant.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 06, 2022, 12:39:14 PM
Celebrating Eternal President Boris Johnson's platty jubes in 2089
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 12:40:00 PM
Doesn't matter who it is, if it's not Johnson Dorries will never be in the cabinet again, in any capacity. And she knows it.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Das Reboot on June 06, 2022, 12:55:54 PM
Dunno, I could see Truss taking the Johnson approach and surrounding herself with fuckwits to make her look good.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 06, 2022, 12:59:39 PM
She would have to literally appoint vegetables to the cabinet to manage that.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 06, 2022, 01:01:50 PM
The only cabinet Dorries will be in is the drinks cabinet!

#hignfy #lolalcoholism
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Clatty McCutcheon on June 06, 2022, 01:05:53 PM
Quote from: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 11:55:53 AMNow his "Anti-corruption champion" has resigned.

What a fine job he did.

The anti-corruption champion who is married to Dido Harding.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 06, 2022, 01:08:06 PM
State of Penrose's widows peak combover.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 06, 2022, 01:19:39 PM
kill all tories. boil em mash em stick em in a stew.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Das Reboot on June 06, 2022, 01:26:27 PM
Quote from: Alberon on June 06, 2022, 12:59:39 PMShe would have to literally appoint vegetables to the cabinet to manage that.

And thus fulfilling her Thatch II fantasy.

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 06, 2022, 01:30:32 PM
Quote@kateferguson4
I understand the Tory MP accused of rape will be allowed to vote in today's confidence vote in Boris Johnson.

It is because he has not had the whip suspended
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 01:37:14 PM
The Rapist's Choice

That's 54 votes in the bag already
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Inspector Norse on June 06, 2022, 01:37:34 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 06, 2022, 12:36:47 PMDorries has made an attack on Hunt on Twitter, clearly she doesn't think he will be the next PM.

In the process of which she inadvertently admits that the government did nothing to prepare for the pandemic, then she personally ignored last-minute advice solely out of spite.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 06, 2022, 01:46:14 PM
Seems a bit weird to accuse someone of personal ambition in politics when youre defending Boris cunting Johnson
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 06, 2022, 01:48:02 PM
Farage says that the Tories will face another 1997 if they keep Johnson. Is his plan to blame Johnson for the lack of benefits seen following Brexit?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: audiocreator on June 06, 2022, 01:50:12 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/v38pcAe.png)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 06, 2022, 01:53:47 PM
Interesting comparison from a Daily Heil journalist.

QuoteJohn Stevens, the Daily Mail journalist who has been keeping a tally of the Conservative MPs saying that they will back Boris Johnson in the vote tonight, has just told Radio 4's World at One that when he conducted a similar exercise on the day of the no confidence vote in Theresa May, by lunchtime she had already received enough public endorsements to be confident of victory.

But Johnson is nowhere near that point, Stevens said. Johnson needs at least 180 votes to be confident of winning. At the moment he is just at the half way point, according to Stevens' count.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 01:58:21 PM
His Twitter thread is here, collating statements from all MPs stating they'll vote for Johnson:

https://mobile.twitter.com/johnestevens/status/1533713196414124033

As above, the number is up to 90 as of half an hour ago. I suppose there's every chance some of them might be lying because it's a secret ballot, but there's my desperate optimism again.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 06, 2022, 02:00:06 PM
I hope Labour are screenshotting Tory MPs saying they will vote for Johnson so they can use this at the next election.
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Post by: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 02:02:59 PM
Mention of Johnson intending to call a General Election if he loses...

https://mobile.twitter.com/hoffman_noa/status/1533788081052012544

From reading around, it sounds like this is more of a threat to get the mythical Red Wall Tories in line - "vote for me or there'll be another election in which you'll definitely lose your seat" - than it is an actual intention.

I fucking love a General Election me, so I say bring it on. Have them every six months.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 06, 2022, 02:05:25 PM
If he loses the confidence vote, can he still fight the next election?
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Post by: greencalx on June 06, 2022, 02:05:41 PM
Quote from: Alberon on June 06, 2022, 01:53:47 PMInteresting comparison from a Daily Heil journalist.

I wouldn't be surprised if there is a shy Johnson effect. With May it was less about her moral character, more about the impossibility of reconciling the division within her party around Brexit. By publicly supporting Johnson, you're potentially also making a statement about your own morality, which I suspect some Tories will be keen to avoid. They could, however, be perfectly happy to put their cross in his box, on the grounds that he has form in shaking these things off, and charismatic leaders tend to win elections...

I suspect those 90 supporters are a massive under-estimate.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 02:07:00 PM
Christ it's the Groundhog Day of Theresa May Brexit bill/no-confidence votes all over again. A man can't take this much hope followed by inevitable disappointment.
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Post by: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 02:10:18 PM
Eight more MPs have come out for Johnson in the last ten minutes. Definitely be more. Wrexham's beloved MP Sarah Atherton hasn't confirmed yet, but she's pretty shamelessly toed the line so far in her time in office, so doubtless she'll be voting for him.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 02:14:15 PM
He's not going to lose


But there will be 181 cabinet ministers
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 06, 2022, 02:17:07 PM
Surprised more of the rebels didn't postdate their letters until after the Wakefield byelection.
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Post by: Das Reboot on June 06, 2022, 02:18:51 PM
There's going to be some batshit insane red meat policies being leaked in time for tomorrow's papers.
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 06, 2022, 02:20:29 PM
Wonder if they'll float bringing back the death penalty, black and white television and returning to pre decimal currency.

"Colour television is woke, British people want to watch their favourite programs in black and white. If it was good enough for Winston Churchill, it's good enough for everyone else".

Maybe they'll call for the scrapping of DBS checks in schools to win the paedo vote.
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Post by: Mr_Simnock on June 06, 2022, 02:21:33 PM
He will very likely be gone soon even if he wins, if he tries to carry on it only gets worse for the tories

Theresa May - Won vote of no confidence, resigned 6 months later

Turd duncan smith - Lost vote of no confidence

John  Major - won no confidence vote, got absolutely hammered in 1997 election 2 years later

vile nasty peice of shit thatcher - won no confidence vote 1989, then lost the following one in 1990

Edward Heath - lost vote of no confidence
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 02:23:08 PM
We're up to 102 MPs now. I hate that this is a thing I can track now.
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Post by: badaids on June 06, 2022, 02:25:44 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 02:02:59 PMMention of Johnson intending to call a General Election if he loses...

https://mobile.twitter.com/hoffman_noa/status/1533788081052012544

From reading around, it sounds like this is more of a threat to get the mythical Red Wall Tories in line - "vote for me or there'll be another election in which you'll definitely lose your seat" - than it is an actual intention.

I fucking love a General Election me, so I say bring it on. Have them every six months.

If he loses a confidence vote, he's not leader any more surely so how can he call an election. Sounds like blackmail before a vote he's scared of losing, no?
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Post by: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 02:28:28 PM
Yeah, I wonder if it's been miscommunicated a bit as it's spread to journalists. That he's not saying he will call one, he's saying one will happen if he goes, as an inevitability.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 06, 2022, 02:32:10 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 06, 2022, 02:20:29 PMWonder if they'll float bringing back the death penalty, black and white television and returning to pre decimal currency.

"Colour television is woke, British people want to watch their favourite programs in black and white. If it was good enough for Winston Churchill, it's good enough for everyone else".

Maybe they'll call for the scrapping of DBS checks in schools to win the paedo vote.

You can still get a 1/3 price b/w TV licence

https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/media-centre/news/black-and-white-tv-still-going-strong-NEWS22

That press release is from 2009 so I imagine a lot of the mad old people in the stats have finally died or at least gone in a home. Also the analogue turn off 2012/3 mustve dropped them a bit since youd need to buy a converter to watch anything on them

Oh here we go. Just over 7k in 2018. Drop of over 20k in the decade
https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/cs/media-centre/news/view.app?id=1369785628266
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Captain Z on June 06, 2022, 02:34:44 PM
If you think tonight will end in anything other than a comfortable-ish victory for Johnson that can be swept under the carpet and forgotten about, you are setting yourself up for disappointment.
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Post by: Mr_Simnock on June 06, 2022, 02:37:23 PM
Quote from: Captain Z on June 06, 2022, 02:34:44 PMIf you think tonight will end in anything other than a comfortable-ish victory for Johnson that can be swept under the carpet and forgotten about, you are setting yourself up for disappointment.

bless
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on June 06, 2022, 02:41:17 PM
Nadine Dorries is vile.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 02:41:58 PM
Bless?

Why? What do you think will happen?
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Post by: JamesTC on June 06, 2022, 02:44:39 PM
Hope Boris beats all those commies or whoever he is fighting at the moment.
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Post by: Mr_Simnock on June 06, 2022, 02:49:34 PM
Quote from: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 02:41:58 PMBless?

Why? What do you think will happen?

Win or lose he's in trouble, no one does well out of them, why do you think they have called the vote? I hope he wins, will be far more damaging for them the longer he stays. Some people here don't seem to get it, these things are the political equivalent of getting your first letter of eviction when your in debt for £100,000 and you haven't payed your rent for a year plus severely damaged the property, your fucking going wether you like it or not.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 02:49:54 PM
Just stuck a fiver on 150-199 against - really tempted for the 200-250 at 9/1.

Hard to read but having only 90 MPs thus far declaring support (and not all of them will be telling the truth).  Of course could blow the other way in that there is a shy Johnson vote I suppose.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 02:51:00 PM
Quote from: Captain Z on June 06, 2022, 02:34:44 PMIf you think tonight will end in anything other than a comfortable-ish victory for Johnson that can be swept under the carpet and forgotten about, you are setting yourself up for disappointment.

I would have agreed with you when I started the day at 6am but as the day has gone on it is getting worse and worse for Johnson.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: DrGreggles on June 06, 2022, 02:51:13 PM
I don't think there's a chance he won't win, it's all about the numbers against.
If it's 60/70 he'll live on for the time being, but 100+ means he's a dead man walking.
Either way, it's now a case of when he goes rather than if.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 06, 2022, 02:52:12 PM
I predict he will get 230 of the 359 Tory MPs voting for him.
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Post by: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 02:52:27 PM
Pro-Boris list is up to 105. Slow going at the moment.
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 02:53:42 PM
Quote from: DrGreggles on June 06, 2022, 02:51:13 PM100+ means he's a dead man walking

I expect there to be over >100
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zero Gravitas on June 06, 2022, 02:54:19 PM
So many brave and well informed predictions about the demise of the ghost of HIGNFY past, I'll believe it when I see it.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 02:55:17 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 06, 2022, 02:52:12 PMI predict he will get 230 of the 359 Tory MPs voting for him.

Sounds about right

Quote from: Zero Gravitas on June 06, 2022, 02:54:19 PMSo many brave and well informed predictions about the demise of the ghost of HIGNFY past, I'll believe it when I see it.

Quite
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 02:56:34 PM
Where is this Boris list?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Inspector Norse on June 06, 2022, 03:00:15 PM
Quote from: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 02:56:34 PMWhere is this Boris list?

here (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_with_given_name_Boris)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Das Reboot on June 06, 2022, 03:00:29 PM
Andrew 'Plebgate' Mitchell has waded in to say "Johnson has lost the dressing room and support in the stands".

Followed that up with "the cabinet are lacking quality in the final third, Clive"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 03:01:26 PM
Quote from: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 02:56:34 PMWhere is this Boris list?

https://mobile.twitter.com/johnestevens/status/1533713196414124033

I think around number 30 he fucks up the thread system and someone in the replies links to the next one.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 03:05:58 PM
Quote from: Zero Gravitas on June 06, 2022, 02:54:19 PMSo many brave and well informed predictions about the demise of the ghost of HIGNFY past, I'll believe it when I see it.

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FC2QrWzsfghA%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 03:08:31 PM
Yeah very cutting but do you remember the votes on Brexit? No deal Brexit? Thisit and thaxit?

And look at what the result of it all was.
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Post by: touchingcloth on June 06, 2022, 03:11:29 PM
It's a strange form of ego- and megalomania that seems to inform Johnson's desire to want to remain in power at all costs.

Of the limited number of areas in my personal and work lives where I have any sort of a leadership role, it wouldn't take more than about two people going "cloth, I'm not sure you're particularly cut out for this job" before I'd say they were probably right and ask who else wanted the gig.

We could literally see Johnson coming out with something like "only 48% of my colleagues have any confidence in my abilities at work". This question is entirely rhetorical of course, but doesn't he have any shame?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 06, 2022, 03:17:17 PM
I honestly believe if he wins by one he will shamble on.

At which point the Tories get destroyed at the by-elections and then the 1922 committee will change the rules to allow MPs to have another chance to get it right.
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 03:18:10 PM
Quote from: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 03:08:31 PMYeah very cutting but do you remember the votes on Brexit? No deal Brexit? Thisit and thaxit?

And look at what the result of it all was.

Yes I do, and I know that that is not comparable.

No one is saying he will definitely go, this "brave and informed" snark is more twitter shite some of you seem personally deranged with, they are saying it is going to be closer than it sounded this morning or yesterday.  It's isn't about him going right away either it about him being bruised by it, he already has been just by the VONC being called anyway.  Perfectly fine to enjoy these moments.
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 03:19:13 PM
Quote from: Alberon on June 06, 2022, 03:17:17 PMI honestly believe if he wins by one he will shamble on.

I certainly hope so I don't want him to go, better for Labour if he stays but a high number of votes against and stumbling on is best of both worlds.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 03:20:32 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 03:18:10 PMYes I do, and I know that that is not comparable.

No one is saying he will definitely go, this "brave and informed" snark is more twitter shite some of you seem personally deranged with, they are saying it is going to be closer than it sounded this morning or yesterday.  It's isn't about him going right away either it about him being bruised by it, he already has been just by the VONC being called anyway.  Perfectly fine to enjoy these moments.

Yeah fair enough but point of order - I'm not on Twitter and thanks to what they've done to it I can't even look at it properly now.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 06, 2022, 03:21:53 PM
Good sign here is that Dorries thinks he's safe.

QuoteNadine Dorries, the Culture Secretary, has said she is "not worried at all" about today's vote on Boris Johnson's leadership.

Asked if she is worried, Ms Dorries told Sky News: "No, I am not worried at all, in fact I would like to get this vote out of the way so that we can get on with focusing on the issues that really need to be focused on.

"Today Russia is firing rockets in Kyiv, we have got a global cost-of-living crisis because we can't get wheat out of Kyiv to the rest of the world.

"There are some really huge issues which the Prime Minister needs to focus on and we as a cabinet and Government do to. So this is a distraction, we want to get this out the way and then move on with the business of government tomorrow." 

Meanwhile the Torygraph is reporting that the rebels say they have over 150 MPs voting against the Prime Minister. Whether they believe that or just want to encourage more to jump ship is anyone's guess.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: touchingcloth on June 06, 2022, 03:22:13 PM
"I could sit on the front benches masturbating like a gibbon and not lose voters"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 03:23:01 PM
Quote from: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 03:20:32 PMYeah fair enough but point of order - I'm not on Twitter and thanks to what they've done to it I can't even look at it properly now.

Good, best to stay at arm lengths from it.  Enjoy Johnson not being able to sweep his behaviour under the carpet as easily as he wished.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 03:23:55 PM
If Nadine Dorries said I had a head, I'd have to look in a mirror to believe it.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 06, 2022, 03:24:03 PM
Quote from: touchingcloth on June 06, 2022, 03:22:13 PM"I could sit on the front benches masturbating like a gibbon and not lose voters"

I think that might actually be true.

Now, that is.

Can't lose any more voters if you don't have any to start with.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 06, 2022, 03:27:54 PM
Quote from: Mr_Simnock on June 06, 2022, 02:49:34 PMWin or lose he's in trouble, no one does well out of them, why do you think they have called the vote? I hope he wins, will be far more damaging for them the longer he stays. Some people here don't seem to get it, these things are the political equivalent of getting your first letter of eviction when your in debt for £100,000 and you haven't payed your rent for a year plus severely damaged the property, your fucking going wether you like it or not.

Yes. It may take a while and he'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming, but he's done in terms of being able to function as leader. Expect a lot of open rebellion now.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Rizla on June 06, 2022, 03:43:47 PM
Quick look at the bookies odds
cunt to lose no confidence vote - 4/1
cunt to win no confidence vote - 1/7

Go on Kennedy, put the cotswolds cottage on it you fucking idiot.

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on June 06, 2022, 03:46:17 PM
Quote from: Alberon on June 06, 2022, 12:07:05 PMFrom The Torygraph who seem solidly against Johnson.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUkCgpUWYAAoEE1?format=jpg&name=small)

He just has to last to Wednesday and he beats Gordon Brown's time in office. Theresa May's record seems well out of reach for him.

Patrick Troughton once advised them that roughly three years is optimum for a Prime Minister.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 03:46:29 PM
With just over 2 hours to go until the vote, they've reached 115 MPs.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 03:53:58 PM
My MP won't say a word, but she'll dutifully go and vote for him.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 04:01:54 PM
121 MPs publicly in favour, with Johnson just about to give a speech to backbenchers, so a load more probably about to come in.

The bizarre thing is that he's such an insincere, patronising man whenever he trots out his desperate guff that you know he doesn't even believe himself. You doubt that most of these adult politicians actually fall for his hollow, shiny platitudes. When they're all parroting the same stuff about him getting the big things right or whatever. Absolute shit.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jamiefairlie on June 06, 2022, 04:07:46 PM
Call me cynical (because I am) but this is just minor squabbling between which school bully gets their turn to wear the chief bully hat. If he goes, some other dick gets a go, if they lose the next election then the chief Labour dick gets to have a go but only if they stick firmly to the bully agenda.

It's nigh on half a century since a person who the media and the public would call left wing won a UK election. The post Thatcher consensus has now lasted longer than the post war consensus.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: greencalx on June 06, 2022, 04:10:13 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if Johnson wrote a letter himself. Surviving the challenge lets him draw a line under the whole affair.
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Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 04:21:17 PM
Lots of banging on the tables.

public school cunts
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 04:25:53 PM
Quote from: greencalx on June 06, 2022, 04:10:13 PMIt wouldn't surprise me if Johnson wrote a letter himself. Surviving the challenge lets him draw a line under the whole affair.

It doesn't though.  It means he survived and of course that will mean BULLISH but in reality he will have a collection of his own MPs that have taken moves against him he will have to DELIVER something tangible, which means doing something and doing something is always fraught with problems.  He doesn't actually possess the skills imo to to get himself out this it.  It doesn't matter what his echo chamber thinks it matters whether he can change public opinion and his strategy has always been to ride off being divisive but he needs to do something else now which he isn't equipped for.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Bently Sheds on June 06, 2022, 04:35:32 PM
The Deathgate  (https://twitter.com/MarcusJBall/status/1533804069994766336?t=PMaDnaWaMqsvQZM4p_KwPA&s=19) hashtag has been trending on Twitter all day today, touted as THE thing that will bring Johnson down, worse than partygate etc.

Turns out, after a FOI request was put in to St Thomas's Hospital, it was revealed that Johnson didn't "nearly die of COVID" & (as per reports in The Sun & The Times) doctors weren't preparing how to announce his carking, it was all bollocks - standard Johnson embellishment of the truth.

Is this worse than Partygate?
Nope.
Will it destroy his premiership?
Nope.
It's just another confirmation that he is a lying twat.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: robhug on June 06, 2022, 04:37:14 PM
so it looks like a third+ of the parliamentary tory party have/will pass a vote of no confidence in the party leader

jezza hunt to play the heseltine role next week
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zero Gravitas on June 06, 2022, 04:43:57 PM
Quote from: Bently Sheds on June 06, 2022, 04:35:32 PMTurns out, after a FOI request was put in to St Thomas's Hospital, it was revealed that Johnson didn't "nearly die of COVID" & (as per reports in The Sun & The Times) doctors weren't preparing how to announce his carking, it was all bollocks - standard Johnson embellishment of the truth.

A week at his bedside I'd be making plans to announce his death too.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Das Reboot on June 06, 2022, 04:46:32 PM
Douglas Ross saying he won't support Johnson, though I guess there's still time for him to change his mind. Again.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 04:52:20 PM
Can't see what Wes' problem is

https://twitter.com/wesstreeting/status/1533808096308518912
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 06, 2022, 04:59:59 PM
https://twitter.com/patrickkmaguire/status/1533838873909940224

QuoteAsked about the conduct described in the Sue Gray report, Boris Johnson told MPs: "I'd do it again."
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jamiefairlie on June 06, 2022, 05:14:14 PM
Quote from: Das Reboot on June 06, 2022, 04:46:32 PMDouglas Ross saying he won't support Johnson, though I guess there's still time for him to change his mind. Again.

He's like a real life version of the Spitting Image David Steel puppet that sat in David Owen's breast pocket.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 06, 2022, 05:20:22 PM
FULL-THROATED APOLOGY
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 06, 2022, 05:22:58 PM
Johnson didn't come out to greet the visiting Estonian prime minister today to avoid questions being shouted from the media.

Looks like he's still got the support of Elizabeth from Aylesbury though:

QuoteElizabeth in Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, says the country "doesn't want to get rid of Boris Johnson now".

"He's got the big things right. He was Ukraine coming before Putin invaded and started giving them help before the invasion.

"If you're talking about lying politicians, you've only got to look at Tony Blair who took us into a totally illegal war in Iraq."

I didn't realise that Elizabeth had polled 70 million people on whether Johnson should go. Also, saying "what about Blair" is laughable given that most people in the UK despise both Blair and Johnson. Most Tory MPs supported the war in Iraq, including Johnson.

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on June 06, 2022, 05:24:06 PM
Quote from: Rizla on June 06, 2022, 03:43:47 PMQuick look at the bookies odds
cunt to lose no confidence vote - 4/1
cunt to win no confidence vote - 1/7

Go on Kennedy, put the cotswolds cottage on it you fucking idiot.

Or at least a nice slab of cathedral city.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Das Reboot on June 06, 2022, 05:30:28 PM
Quote"He was Ukraine coming before Putin invaded"

What the actual fuck does she mean?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zero Gravitas on June 06, 2022, 05:34:07 PM
Quote from: Das Reboot on June 06, 2022, 05:30:28 PMWhat the actual fuck does she mean?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Orbital ?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 06, 2022, 05:35:44 PM
They're all Ukraine coming before Putin invaded by the time LEGEND BORIS is finished with them.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Inspector Norse on June 06, 2022, 05:45:13 PM
Tom Harwood has blown the whole thing open with an "exclusive" that might just save Boris' (copious) bacon! (https://twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1533809922734948352?s=21&t=xM14st4QinEKTDkd3nFqyw)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: greencalx on June 06, 2022, 05:46:30 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 04:25:53 PMIt doesn't though.  It means he survived and of course that will mean BULLISH but in reality he will have a collection of his own MPs that have taken moves against him he will have to DELIVER something tangible, which means doing something and doing something is always fraught with problems.  He doesn't actually possess the skills imo to to get himself out this it.  It doesn't matter what his echo chamber thinks it matters whether he can change public opinion and his strategy has always been to ride off being divisive but he needs to do something else now which he isn't equipped for.

I think we must be talking about different Boris Johnsons. I'm talking about the one who has laughed off every single crisis, scandal and indiscretion of the last, what, twenty years, secure in the knowledge that no matter what he does, the fuckers will still vote for him. He'll do some crowdpleasing shit come the next election, and this little episode will all be forgotten, except by people who'd never vote for him anyway.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 06, 2022, 05:47:55 PM
Bit desperate from Harwood.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 06, 2022, 05:52:47 PM
Wondering if Johnson will face a stalking horse challenge later this year. If Hunt is the Heseltine, who is the Anthony Meyer?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jamiefairlie on June 06, 2022, 05:59:25 PM
More importantly, who's the John Major? Check who's scheduling dental surgery.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 06:10:29 PM
Quote from: Inspector Norse on June 06, 2022, 05:45:13 PMTom Harwood has blown the whole thing open with an "exclusive" that might just save Boris' (copious) bacon! (https://twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1533809922734948352?s=21&t=xM14st4QinEKTDkd3nFqyw)

I can't understand what it must be like to be Tom Harwood. I've worked my share of jobs where I've worried I'm making the world worse for no reason, but he's another level. What a waste of humanity.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on June 06, 2022, 06:26:06 PM
Andrew Adonis reckons Brexit is over if Boris goes.

The utter mononania, he could embarrass a busted flush.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 06:36:05 PM
Presume Adonis wants Johnson to stay then



He was proposing a bonfire of health and safety legislation to get the cost of living down.

Should get the scum floating to his side.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 06:36:45 PM
Quote from: greencalx on June 06, 2022, 05:46:30 PMI think we must be talking about different Boris Johnsons. I'm talking about the one who has laughed off every single crisis, scandal and indiscretion of the last, what, twenty years, secure in the knowledge that no matter what he does, the fuckers will still vote for him. He'll do some crowdpleasing shit come the next election, and this little episode will all be forgotten, except by people who'd never vote for him anyway.

I fear you are buying into the drones.

He lost his first contest of Clwyd South by over 10,000 votes, then won the incredibly safe seat of Henley (not exactly hard considering it's always been Tory apart from it being Lib Dem once in 1906).  He then won the London Mayor, twice both times relatively close run affairs, both against Ken Livingstone (who also won it twice by bigger margins).  He then left and obviously would have lost if he'd stayed, he won another safe seat of Uxbridge and South Ruislip (a relatively new but completely Tory safe seat), got given the role of foreign secretary, fucked it up, and played Brexit cynically to depose May to then win a leadership contest against Jeremy Hunt (in a what was really a remain/leave contest).  He then won a landslide election against Jeremy Corbyn who was screwed by the press, his own party and ran a terrible campaign.  Now within 3 years he is having a VONC against him.

Everywhere he has gone he has eventually been found out, he has just moved to a new group of marks, he can't do it this time there is nowhere else to go as PM.  There is always going to be a hardened group that will vote for the blonde white man that flirts with racism there is nothing new there but it isn't enough to build a solid foundation for ruling a nation.  He is now being openly booed by royalists and is less popular than Gordon Brown, than Theresa May, than Ed Balls, he is 5 pts behind Starmer (someone else that is not that popular) and 60% of the public think he should stand down.

he likes to create a myth around him but it's all bollocks.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Thursday on June 06, 2022, 06:40:35 PM
Imagine if Emma Kennedy just tweeted out "Look he's obviously going to win the confidence vote." Chaos at the bookies.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 06:41:12 PM
But he's not going to lose this is he?

And then they will go in so hard with the hard-right economics and far-right culture wars as they know time is running out.

I almost wish this hadn't happened
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Famous Mortimer on June 06, 2022, 06:49:39 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 06:36:45 PMhe likes to create a myth around him but it's all bollocks.
He failed twice, succeeded tons more times and is currently in the highest elected office in the country. I'm not sure what your point is.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 06:53:03 PM
Quote from: Famous Mortimer on June 06, 2022, 06:49:39 PMHe failed twice, succeeded tons more times and is currently in the highest elected office in the country. I'm not sure what your point is.

Yes you do.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Thursday on June 06, 2022, 06:53:52 PM
Quote from: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 06:41:12 PMBut he's not going to lose this is he?

And then they will go in so hard with the hard-right economics and far-right culture wars as they know time is running out.

I almost wish this hadn't happened

My *attempt* at humor being that she routinely says "He's gone!" after every minor scandal. So her predicting that something wouldn't affect him would be cause for doubt.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 06:55:27 PM
Quote from: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 06:41:12 PMBut he's not going to lose this is he?

And then they will go in so hard with the hard-right economics and far-right culture wars as they know time is running out.

I almost wish this hadn't happened

Jesus christ that is a take.

Beginning to have a whiff of I hope this doesnt work well for Starmer...
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 06:55:48 PM
Quote from: Thursday on June 06, 2022, 06:53:52 PMMy *attempt* at humor being that she routinely says "He's gone!" after every minor scandal. So her predicting that something wouldn't affect him would be cause for doubt.

Oh I know. Sorry it wasn't meant to be a reply to you.

Toynbee says he's toast too. It's all over for Bunter!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 06:57:37 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 06:55:27 PMJesus christ that is a take.

Beginning to have a whiff of I hope this doesnt work well for Starmer...

It's not a "take", it's a fear.

Whe he's selling off housing association stock next week my reaction won't be a "take" either.

No idea what your Starmer comment means.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 07:03:34 PM
Quote from: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 06:57:37 PMIt's not a "take", it's a fear.

So you would rather he didn't have a VONC against him?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 07:07:41 PM
No I wouldn't. I still worry about what happens after he wins it.

Not every post of mine is well thought out logically reasoned and fully costed I admit.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: AllisonSays on June 06, 2022, 07:10:50 PM
An unsuccessful VONC might bolster his position temporarily; add lustre to his Pulis-esque route one claim that it might not be pretty but utterly gets results; and yeah, lead to a flurry of fash policy positions as 'red meat to the base', like the rushing through of the Rwanda shit.

I'm not saying that's what will happen, who knows, but it's a reasonable concern.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 07:11:40 PM
Quote from: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 07:07:41 PMNo I wouldn't. I still worry about what happens after he wins it.

Not every post of mine is well thought out logically reasoned and fully costed I admit.

Fair enough.  Let me put you at ease this vote will make no difference as to him enacting "far right" economics or culture war shit, he will ding that whatever happens - this just makes it harder for him to actualise any of it.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: greencalx on June 06, 2022, 07:12:27 PM
The problem with conventional analyses is that Johnson doesn't do convention. He knows that the sole effect of departing from convention is a few people tut a bit, but it doesn't fundamentally get in the way of him doing whatever the fuck he wants. So what if some people think that he's weakened by this vote (whether or not he actually loses it, which he won't)? He'll just ride it out until people get bored. If he gets as far as an election, he'll do something crowdpleasing and that will be that.

Quote from: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 07:07:41 PMNot every post of mine is well thought out logically reasoned and fully costed I admit.

That hardly places you in a minority.

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 07:14:49 PM
Quote from: AllisonSays on June 06, 2022, 07:10:50 PMAn unsuccessful VONC might bolster his position temporarily; add lustre to his Pulis-esque route one claim that it might not be pretty but utterly gets results; and yeah, lead to a flurry of fash policy positions as 'red meat to the base', like the rushing through of the Rwanda shit.

I'm not saying that's what will happen, who knows, but it's a reasonable concern.

It tends to not work like this though and it isn't really how parliament works anyway - he is losing support not gaining support for any policies having 120+ MPs that have no confidence in you means he more likely has to compromise.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 06, 2022, 07:15:06 PM
Quote from: AllisonSays on June 06, 2022, 07:10:50 PMAn unsuccessful VONC might bolster his position temporarily; add lustre to his Pulis-esque route one claim that it might not be pretty but utterly gets results; and yeah, lead to a flurry of fash policy positions as 'red meat to the base', like the rushing through of the Rwanda shit.

I'm not saying that's what will happen, who knows, but it's a reasonable concern.

It has to be a comfortable victory. Anything over a hundred rebels and the Tories are in nightmare territory where Johnson staggers on with even less authority than he has now.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: AllisonSays on June 06, 2022, 07:16:11 PM
Yeah, I think you're both right based on the history but in our increasingly and unprecedentedly stupid times, who knows. It truly amazes me they've passed through Covid, PPE scandal, 100s of deaths a day, totally ineffective response to a possible world war, etc relatively unscathed so I'm finding it hard to assess the camel's load bearing capacities, I guess.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 07:18:44 PM
Quote from: greencalx on June 06, 2022, 07:12:27 PMThe problem with conventional analyses is that Johnson doesn't do convention. He knows that the sole effect of departing from convention is a few people tut a bit, but it doesn't fundamentally get in the way of him doing whatever the fuck he wants. So what if some people think that he's weakened by this vote (whether or not he actually loses it, which he won't)? He'll just ride it out until people get bored. If he gets as far as an election, he'll do something crowdpleasing and that will be that.

It is easy to be pessimistic about this (that's not meant to be arsey comment) but he really can't, this very situation is showing he can't do this, it has consequences.

Before it was = this won't affect me time to move on
Then it was = there won't be a VONC time to move on
Then it was = there will be a VONC but he will win it handsomely
Now it is = there will be a VONC but if he wins by one then it still counts.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on June 06, 2022, 07:21:16 PM
Quote from: Alberon on June 06, 2022, 07:15:06 PMIt has to be a comfortable victory. Anything over a hundred rebels and the Tories are in nightmare territory where Johnson staggers on with even less authority than he has now.

Staggers on with a large majority and a looming election against a Labour party with zero policies and the most clearly shifty, hateable, insincere and, perhaps crucially, charisma free leader in its entire history.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 07:21:56 PM
Quote from: Alberon on June 06, 2022, 07:15:06 PMIt has to be a comfortable victory. Anything over a hundred rebels and the Tories are in nightmare territory where Johnson staggers on with even less authority than he has now.

So reports are saying 120 rebels that is bad.  Like I say I've got a fiver on 150-199 might be just a bit too high to win any money but I'd be very happy with 120 rebels - it means a challenger will be well on their way.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 07:23:29 PM
Quote from: shoulders on June 06, 2022, 07:21:16 PMStaggers on with a large majority and a looming election against a Labour party with zero policies and the most clearly shifty, hateable, insincere and, perhaps crucially, charisma free leader in its entire history.

I'm sure there will be some policies come election time.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: greencalx on June 06, 2022, 07:24:14 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 07:18:44 PMIt is easy to be pessimistic about this (that's not meant to be arsey comment) but he really can't, this very situation is showing he can't do this, it has consequences.

Before it was = this won't affect me time to move on
Then it was = there won't be a VONC time to move on
Then it was = there will be a VONC but he will win it handsomely
Now it is = there will be a VONC but if he wins by one then it still counts.


I agree that's the timeline. Where I disagree is on the consequences part.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 07:25:02 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 07:14:49 PMIt tends to not work like this though and it isn't really how parliament works anyway - he is losing support not gaining support for any policies having 120+ MPs that have no confidence in you means he more likely has to compromise.

Compromise how? They're not voting against him for ideological reasons.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 07:25:11 PM
Quote from: greencalx on June 06, 2022, 07:24:14 PMI agree that's the timeline. Where I disagree is on the consequences part.

We'll see but this is all to do with consequences that is why he is having a VONC and tanking in the polls.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 07:26:08 PM
Quote from: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 07:25:02 PMCompromise how? They're not voting against him for ideological reasons.

Some of them are but either way it effectively splits his party and emboldens his enemies within his party.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 06, 2022, 07:27:25 PM
Johnson's basic problem is that nothing would matter if he was still popular with the electorate.

But he isn't. As someone on one of the papers put it today Johnson might want the public to move on, but the problem is they have. The issue is done and dusted but they've mostly decided he's a liar and a lawbreaker. That impression is set in stone.

Johnson's followers bleat on about his election victory, but that's dust now. I think they can keep him and face another 1997 pasting or they can replace him and deal with a 1992 close battle.

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on June 06, 2022, 07:27:33 PM
I prefer to call it VONK because it evokes getting a cartoon hammer to his head
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on June 06, 2022, 07:31:11 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 07:23:29 PMI'm sure there will be some policies come election time.

1. 'A Britain that plays fair and works hard'

2. 'An NHS with the time to care'

3. 'A nation to be proud of'

4. Classroom sizes reduced to a maximum of 198
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on June 06, 2022, 07:33:51 PM
Quote from: Alberon on June 06, 2022, 07:27:25 PMJohnson's basic problem is that nothing would matter if he was still popular with the electorate.

But he isn't. As someone on one of the papers put it today Johnson might want the public to move on, but the problem is they have. The issue is done and dusted but they've mostly decided he's a liar and a lawbreaker. That impression is set in stone.

Johnson's followers bleat on about his election victory, but that's dust now. I think they can keep him and face another 1997 pasting or they can replace him and deal with a 1992 close battle.

The last sentence is not based in either historical precedence or any current electoral reality. You just have to look at Labour polling versus either 1992 or 1997 to know they are in no position whatsoever to deal out a 97 type victory, meanwhile Labour are starting from such a low number of MPs that the Tories could fight a defensive battle a la Labour in 2005 and still end up with a working majority even if they do really badly.

Also Johnson popularity is not the same as expressed voter intentions.

What is desperately disappointing is that Corbyn missed the chance to take on Johnson this year as he would have absolutely battered him on Covid and the cost of living crisis and provided an alternative that was based on actually doing something rather than power for 'my turn on the controls' like Starmer, an inferior sibling begging for a go on a games console. Risible and pathetic.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 07:35:26 PM
Quote from: shoulders on June 06, 2022, 07:33:51 PMthe last sentence is not based in either historical precedence or any current electoral reality.

Jesus.

Quote from: shoulders on June 06, 2022, 07:33:51 PMWhat is desperately disappointing is that Corbyn missed the chance to take on Johnson this year as he would have absolutely battered him on Covid and the cost of living crisis.

the last sentence is not based in either historical precedence or any current electoral reality.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: AllisonSays on June 06, 2022, 07:40:40 PM
It's based on an accurate comparison of the agendas of the previous and current labour leadership, though. If it helps we can't base it on historical precedent on account of it didn't happen.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: badaids on June 06, 2022, 07:41:04 PM
Does anyone know what the count is of 'fors' and 'againsts' by adding up yer twitters or what have you?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on June 06, 2022, 07:41:34 PM
You outright dismiss data that is easily accessible and a matter of public record then use the same sentence you are sneering at, this time incorrectly. Well done, you are definitely the smart man in control.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 06, 2022, 07:43:04 PM
The Lib Dems are finally resurrecting from the dead. They will squeeze the Tories in areas that won't vote Labour.

My constituency is John Redwood (a very safe Tory seat) and the local council just went to Lib Dem control.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 07:43:28 PM
Quote from: AllisonSays on June 06, 2022, 07:40:40 PMIt's based on an accurate comparison of the agendas of the previous and current labour leadership, though. If it helps we can't base it on historical precedent on account of it didn't happen.

Eh?  I'm not sure what you are talking about here the first bit or the Corbyn bit?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 07:47:56 PM
Quote from: shoulders on June 06, 2022, 07:41:34 PMYou outright dismiss data that is easily accessible and a matter of public record then use the same sentence you are sneering at, this time incorrectly. Well done, you are definitely the smart man in control.

Shoulders, I'll say this again to you. Fuck off with your completely predictable crying bullying bollocks.  You said something, you got something back.  Just try dealing with that a bit better mate.

I used the same sentence to show how your "smart man in control" bollocks was instantly pissed on..........by yourself.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 07:56:27 PM
Quote from: badaids on June 06, 2022, 07:41:04 PMDoes anyone know what the count is of 'fors' and 'againsts' by adding up yer twitters or what have you?

We don't know but reports are swirling around 120 rebels but we really we don't know if truth be told.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: AllisonSays on June 06, 2022, 07:59:14 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 07:43:28 PMEh?  I'm not sure what you are talking about here the first bit or the Corbyn bit?

I'm referring to Shoulders' suggestion that Corbyn's labour party would've been better placed to take advantage of this conjuncture and your pissy dismissal of that proposition by copy and pasting his previous post. Hope that's clarifying (seriously, I'm not trying to be vague).
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: AllisonSays on June 06, 2022, 07:59:48 PM
Double post
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 08:07:12 PM
Quote from: AllisonSays on June 06, 2022, 07:59:14 PMI'm referring to Shoulders' suggestion that Corbyn's labour party would've been better placed to take advantage of this conjunctive and your pissy dismissal of that proposition by copy and pasting his previous post. Hope that's clarifying (seriously, I'm not trying to be vague).

Right.  No that is clear thanks.  I don't really think it is worth discussing the hypothetical situation in which Corbyn hadn't lost an election to Johnson so he could be "battering" Johnson on the cost of living crisis and Covid, the Covid that Corbyn flirted with anti-vax-esque rhetoric and has a brother that is a full on anti-vaxxer.  Oh and War in Ukraine and the Russian sympathies thing.

Now before you start regurgitating some Novara at me I'm not saying any of those criticism are correct or fair but they are the reality that would exist fir the press and have to be dealt with if we can get our minds over the bizarre leap that Corbyn remains in power after losing 2 elections.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 08:07:29 PM
I've taken the terrible and inevitable decision to believe that he might actually lose. I just love being disappointed.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: AllisonSays on June 06, 2022, 08:10:03 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 08:07:12 PMRight.  No that is clear thanks.  I don't really think it is worth discussing the hypothetical situation in which Corbyn hadn't lost an election to Johnson so he could be "battering" Johnson on the cost of living crisis and Covid, the Covid that Corbyn flirted with anti-vax-esque rhetoric and has a brother that is a full on anti-vaxxer.  Oh and War in Ukraine and the Russian sympathies thing.

Now before you start regurgitating some Novara at me I'm not saying any of those criticism are correct or fair but they are the reality that would exist fir the press and have to be dealt with if we can get our minds over the bizarre leap that Corbyn remains in power after losing 2 elections.

I've definitely never listened to Novara but thanks for the Daily Mail account of Corbyn, that was bracing.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: AllisonSays on June 06, 2022, 08:13:54 PM
For the record I think Bastani is a knob, Walker and especially Butler are pompous, Ash Sarkar is cool. But fuck off with deciding every opinion different than yours is based on trendy vibes instead of honest differences in opinion.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 06, 2022, 08:16:19 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 06:10:29 PMI can't understand what it must be like to be Tom Harwood. I've worked my share of jobs where I've worried I'm making the world worse for no reason, but he's another level. What a waste of humanity.
a double-handled sippy cup full of diarrhea
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Famous Mortimer on June 06, 2022, 08:16:43 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 08:07:12 PMCorbyn flirted with anti-vax-esque rhetoric
That's an impressive number of weasel words for such a short phrase.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 08:17:55 PM
Quote from: AllisonSays on June 06, 2022, 08:10:03 PMI've definitely never listened to Novara but thanks for the Daily Mail account of Corbyn, that was bracing.

Try reading what I said again.

I have lots of sympathies for where you are coming from, but I don't agree with it.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: vanilla.coffee on June 06, 2022, 08:19:25 PM
So excited right now.
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Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 08:19:53 PM
Quote from: Famous Mortimer on June 06, 2022, 08:16:43 PMThat's an impressive number of weasel words for such a short phrase.

You are alright mate, I don't really need to be explaining myself to you.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BlodwynPig on June 06, 2022, 08:21:05 PM
GONE
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 08:22:28 PM
Quote from: AllisonSays on June 06, 2022, 08:13:54 PMFor the record I think Bastani is a knob, Walker and especially Butler are pompous, Ash Sarkar is cool. But fuck off with deciding every opinion different than yours is based on trendy vibes instead of honest differences in opinion.

No.  My point was you wouldn't read what I said and behave in  a Novara reactionary way by saying things like "Thanks for the Daily Mail account" which you duely did.  I wasn't saying this, I literally put it in bold but you just ignored it anyway.  It's not a difference of opinion when you are arguing with yourself (no need to shoot the messenger).
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 08:23:05 PM
Some pro-Boris bell-end on the BBC at the moment. Got asked whether Johnson got a lot of criticism in the 1922 meeting. Said "he gave as good as he got", just proving they don't give a fuck about the qualms of their colleagues. It's all a jovial punch-up to them.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 08:23:31 PM
Quote from: BlodwynPig on June 06, 2022, 08:21:05 PMGONE

Here he is! : )
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Theremin on June 06, 2022, 08:24:45 PM
Quote from: BlodwynPig on June 06, 2022, 08:21:05 PMGONE

Fuck, that got me good
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BlodwynPig on June 06, 2022, 08:25:29 PM
Quote from: Theremin on June 06, 2022, 08:24:45 PMFuck, that got me good

It was intended for ImitationLeather.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: GoblinAhFuckScary on June 06, 2022, 08:27:10 PM
michaeljacksonpopcorn.gif
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: imitationleather on June 06, 2022, 08:28:02 PM
I'm half an hour behind on the Novara stream so if everyone can not talk about the result until I've caught up I'd appreciate it. x
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 08:29:32 PM
Quote from: GoblinAhFuckScary on June 06, 2022, 08:27:10 PMmichaeljacksonpopcorn.gif

Exactly lets just enjoy this. Less than 100 it is still bad.  Over 100 it is bad. Over 130 it's really bad. Over 150 it's really really bad (and I win £15 quid!) and over that......GONE!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 08:31:32 PM
Quote from: imitationleather on June 06, 2022, 08:28:02 PMI'm half an hour behind on the Novara stream so if everyone can not talk about the result until I've caught up I'd appreciate it. x

I've hearing that as soon as the verdict is announced we will be going straight to @kittens for an instant hot take.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Butchers Blind on June 06, 2022, 08:32:06 PM
CYOA..

Boris loses, go to page 10

Boris wins, wipe arse with book and burn.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: AllisonSays on June 06, 2022, 08:32:50 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 08:22:28 PMNo.  My point was you wouldn't read what I said and behave in  a Novara reactionary way by saying things like "Thanks for the Daily Mail account" which you duely did.  I wasn't saying this, I literally put it in bold but you just ignored it anyway.  It's not a difference of opinion when you are arguing with yourself (no need to shoot the messenger).

I did read what you said. I am ambivalent about your fair point that Corbyn and Corbynism failed (he and they did, the reasons why are arguable); my slightly glib thing about the Mail was purely about your jibes towards his brother, which in my opinion are not comradely or legitimate criticisms. (Altho to be clear his brother is clearly a hilarious once in a lifetime ball bag and eejit).
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 08:34:19 PM
QuoteReplying to @nicholaswatt
One of those long faces included a strong supporter of the PM who said of the rebels: I could throttle some of my colleagues. They want to hand our country to a coalition of Labour, the SNP and the Liberal Democrats. It will be votes at 16 and then who knows what will happen?

Our country
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 08:36:23 PM
Please lose but refuse to accept it.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 08:37:21 PM
Quote from: AllisonSays on June 06, 2022, 08:32:50 PMI did read what you said. I am ambivalent about your fair point that Corbyn and Corbynism failed (he and they did, the reasons why are arguable); my slightly glib thing about the Mail was purely about your jibes towards his brother, which in my opinion are not comradely or legitimate criticisms.

It isn't a jibe I'm saying the press would be making those comments.  It is not in dispute Piers Corbyn is an anti-vaxxer is it, or the press would be making hay of it.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zero Gravitas on June 06, 2022, 08:40:15 PM
I reckon they'll broadcast footage of him crying like a baby and stamping his feet and then in the emotion and exertion of it all he poos himself.

And it'll be all over the front pages for a whole day, and mentioned in coverage for three more and then be re-imagined as a private eye cover.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 08:40:39 PM
How does it take an hour to count the votes. It's yes or no mate
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Beagle 2 on June 06, 2022, 08:41:43 PM
They're having a few cans, make a night of it
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Captain Z on June 06, 2022, 08:42:09 PM
Hearing reports that Boris Johnson has died
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Twonty Gostelow on June 06, 2022, 08:42:16 PM
Quote from: BlodwynPig on June 06, 2022, 08:21:05 PMGONE

Quote from: Theremin on June 06, 2022, 08:24:45 PMFuck, that got me good

Yeah, not funny Blodwyn. A woman's wallaper is on the line.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 08:42:24 PM
I want to be sick
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Jittlebags on June 06, 2022, 08:43:18 PM
Quote from: Captain Z on June 06, 2022, 08:42:09 PMHearing reports that Boris Johnson has died

Monkeypox ?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 08:43:36 PM
Quote from: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 08:34:19 PMOur country

Exactly focus on these cunts getting their arses handed to them.  100 votes and these arseholes will be having a meltdown.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BlodwynPig on June 06, 2022, 08:44:37 PM
Quote from: Twonty Gostelow on June 06, 2022, 08:42:16 PMYeah, not funny Blodwyn. A woman's wallaper is on the line.

Like watching wallpaper dry.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 08:45:43 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 08:40:39 PMHow does it take an hour to count the votes. It's yes or no mate

Gotta burn the anti-Johnson votes then air the room
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Twonty Gostelow on June 06, 2022, 08:46:42 PM
Quote from: Twonty Gostelow on June 06, 2022, 08:42:16 PMYeah, not funny Blodwyn. A woman's wallaper is on the line.

Quote from: BlodwynPig on June 06, 2022, 08:44:37 PMLike watching wallpaper dry.

That typo stays!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Beagle 2 on June 06, 2022, 08:47:07 PM
Hearing reports Boris Johnson has shat himself
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BlodwynPig on June 06, 2022, 08:47:31 PM
Quote from: Jittlebags on June 06, 2022, 08:43:18 PMMonkeypox ?

https://fullfact.org/health/boris-johnson-coronavirus-death/ (https://fullfact.org/health/boris-johnson-coronavirus-death/)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zero Gravitas on June 06, 2022, 08:49:58 PM
Quote from: Beagle 2 on June 06, 2022, 08:47:07 PMHearing reports Boris Johnson has shat himself

Don't let your dreams be dreams!

QuoteGale said the party was "spoilt for choice" for an alternative leader, suggesting that Dominic Raab, Liz Truss, Ben Wallace, Penny Mordaunt and Tom Tugendhat might put themselves forward.

Let me have 5 minutes alone with my imagination!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: The Ombudsman on June 06, 2022, 08:50:28 PM
Would be great fun if he gets ousted and May comes back.

Don't want the Tories in but feel this would hurt the cunt the most.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on June 06, 2022, 09:01:16 PM
Here we here we go!!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 09:01:41 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAAHAHAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: GoblinAhFuckScary on June 06, 2022, 09:02:19 PM
booooo
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Enzo on June 06, 2022, 09:02:34 PM
state of these cunts banging on their desks
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: imitationleather on June 06, 2022, 09:02:49 PM
That's a very bad result for him.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BlodwynPig on June 06, 2022, 09:03:20 PM
Quote from: imitationleather on June 06, 2022, 09:02:49 PMThat's a very bad result for him.

or a very very good one.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zero Gravitas on June 06, 2022, 09:04:02 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ip7WWoU.gif)

How is he ever going to come back from that!?

Get wrecked son!

Get wrecked!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 09:04:11 PM
148 against. Yikes.

The eternal shitgasp with this prick though is the fact that these things don't seem to matter. He doesn't feel pressure from anyone. Doesn't give a fuck.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: imitationleather on June 06, 2022, 09:04:43 PM
Worse result than Thatcher's confidence vote in 1990!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 09:04:53 PM
What larks!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Crenners on June 06, 2022, 09:05:20 PM
3/7 say guy's a cunt
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on June 06, 2022, 09:06:03 PM
148, lol.

Not enough to make a real difference but enough to leave a fairly turdy stink on Johnson.

As mentioned above , the guy is without shame and has the position he's arselicked his entire life towards getting, so don't think this is the end somehow.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Enzo on June 06, 2022, 09:06:07 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on June 06, 2022, 09:04:11 PM148 against. Yikes.

The eternal shitgasp with this prick though is the fact that these things don't seem to matter. He doesn't feel pressure from anyone. Doesn't give a fuck.

He probably sees this as guaranteed year longer in power
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Mobius on June 06, 2022, 09:06:50 PM
Worse than May, that's gotta hurt the lad
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on June 06, 2022, 09:09:04 PM
Quote from: Mobius on June 06, 2022, 09:06:50 PMWorse than May, that's gotta hurt the lad

As far as I know only in numbers, not compared with the percentage. May had far fewer MPs casting their vote than Johnson has and so 133 mattered more.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on June 06, 2022, 09:10:14 PM
Whoops, I stand corrected. Mathsdozy

QuoteJohnson achieves 58.8% support of Conservative Party
Boris Johnson has received 58.8% of support from the Conservative Party, with 41.2% being against the current leadership.

Every single Conservative MP voted.

This result is lower than the 63% received by Theresa May during her leadership challenge in 2018.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Psybro on June 06, 2022, 09:11:04 PM
This is wonderful.  It's big enough to tear up the party, but in the public's eyes they've bottled getting rid of a deeply unpopular leader and the cunt is still there shitting all over the blue rosette.  All their vaunted playbooks for dealing with this issue can't account for having a guy who genuinely cares more about himself than the continuance of the British Establishment.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: AllisonSays on June 06, 2022, 09:13:33 PM
We can all agree this is very funny
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 09:14:52 PM
Quote from: AllisonSays on June 06, 2022, 09:13:33 PMWe can all agree this is very funny

No we have find problems with it and pretend we all believed he was going this evening........


Just kidding it is brilliant and the best outcome - now sit back and watch them rip each other apart.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 09:15:27 PM
Ramp up the fascism, the cunt vote is all they have to rely on now.



...is my fear.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BlodwynPig on June 06, 2022, 09:15:33 PM
HAIL STARMER!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Jollity on June 06, 2022, 09:17:26 PM
He's shit, but the person chosen to replace him would definitely be worse.

Imagine PM Liz Truss :(
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Captain Z on June 06, 2022, 09:17:44 PM
58.8% can be rounded up to 59%, which can be rounded up to 60%, which can be rounded up to 100%. Move on, nothing to see here.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BlodwynPig on June 06, 2022, 09:19:20 PM
Quote from: Jollity on June 06, 2022, 09:17:26 PMHe's shit, but the person chosen to replace him would definitely be worse.

Imagine PM Liz Truss :(

Sunk cost fallacy vs. Pork Markets in the Offworld Colonies.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 06, 2022, 09:19:28 PM
Just reading that Boris Johnson, the Prime Minister, has tragically died by choking to death on paper napkins in a branch of Wimpy Burger. My thoughts are with the people of England in this trying time.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Butchers Blind on June 06, 2022, 09:19:48 PM
Boris wins again.

Hahaha, plebs.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 09:20:28 PM
Quote from: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 09:15:27 PMRamp up the fascism, the cunt vote is all they have to rely on now.



...is my fear.

it's not likely more likely 148 MPs will be looking to appease Lib Dem voters.

He hasn't got a majority without them.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Twonty Gostelow on June 06, 2022, 09:20:55 PM
The £2 million advance for his autobiography is going to have to wait a little bit longer. Feel so sad for him right now.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 09:22:10 PM
Quote from: BlodwynPig on June 06, 2022, 09:15:33 PMHAIL STARMER!

Well yes the press will be looking for some from the loafer crew to put their eggs in for a while.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Psybro on June 06, 2022, 09:23:59 PM
Usually if Tory MPs get 41% of the vote it means they get to run everything for a decade ?!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 09:26:27 PM
ANYWAY I LOST MY FIVER BY TWO VOTES! TWO FUCKING MEASLY VOTES! (the cunts)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Twonty Gostelow on June 06, 2022, 09:26:53 PM
Quote from: Psybro on June 06, 2022, 09:23:59 PMUsually if Tory MPs get 41% of the vote it means they get to run everything for a decade ?!
(https://i.imgur.com/Ku1D2zF.jpg)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on June 06, 2022, 09:27:39 PM
Handsome victory by an even more handsome chap. Let him get on with the job and let's get Brexit done.

Surely Johnson's obvious tactic is to pretend Brexit isn't properly done yet, and get his base all riled up again.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 06, 2022, 09:27:51 PM
It's the queen I feel sorry for, after a stressful weekend of explosions and colonial hiphop dancing this could be what pushes her over the edge.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Wonderful Butternut on June 06, 2022, 09:29:08 PM
The cynic in me says that by the time of the next election Boris will have slinked away and they'll have all kissed and made up and gotten behind Sunak, Truss or Patel, whilst Sir Kier stumbles over questions about whether he likes to boil children in duck fat (or whatever very black and white moral question that is somehow clouded into gray cos we live in a terminally fucked world) or not.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 06, 2022, 09:32:36 PM
remember churchill lost an election but was then wheeled out as a old tory cunt and got back in
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Natnar on June 06, 2022, 09:34:00 PM
Will Boris get to learn the names of everyone who voted against him?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Mr_Simnock on June 06, 2022, 09:34:50 PM
Looking forward to the slow death of mop headed cunts career, this result is just what I wanted, the thick fuck will walk around like the monty python black knight saying it's just a flesh wound, unable to carry on with any real grip on the party.

(https://c.tenor.com/-XxdHjAwqqUAAAAd/injured-everything-is-fine.gif)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 09:35:05 PM
Hunt = stalking horse
Wallace = real challenger that will take the Ukraine baton out of staffers claws
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 09:35:14 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on June 06, 2022, 09:32:36 PMremember churchill lost an election but was then wheeled out as a old tory cunt and got back in

and Johnson hasn't even won the war yet
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Butchers Blind on June 06, 2022, 09:35:52 PM
Doesn't look good for Corbyn
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 09:36:04 PM
There isn't even a recognised challenger yet
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 09:37:12 PM
QuoteNadhim Zahawi, the education secretary, told Sky News that Volodymyr Zelenskiy, the Ukrainian president, would be "punching the air" tonight because his ally, Boris Johnson, will remain as PM tomorrow.

Fuck me. Have some dignity.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 06, 2022, 09:38:35 PM
Quote from: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 09:35:14 PMand Johnson hasn't even won the war yet
he "got brexit done" though which is basically the same for a lot of people
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 09:39:58 PM
Hahaha! spaffer looks fucked, proper dodgy coming across terribly in his interview.

He's got his Union Jack and Ukraine badge on though

Looks like he's had a few lines 👀
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on June 06, 2022, 09:40:56 PM
Come election time it'll be interesting to see all these mps do a volte face and campaign for him and pretend they never didn't support him.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on June 06, 2022, 09:42:26 PM
Some absolute fucking whopper on sky news just said it's a good result because he's won a larger % of Tory mp support than he won in the leadership election. Fucking hell. BJ just said it too. Expect to hear that a lot.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Goldentony on June 06, 2022, 09:44:13 PM
hope he sits on a toilet with a slightly too large hole for your arse so he goes right in like fucking Paddington
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: badaids on June 06, 2022, 09:44:34 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 09:39:58 PMHahaha! spaffer looks fucked, proper dodgy coming across terribly in his interview.

He's got his Union Jack and Ukraine badge on though

Looks like he's had a few lines 👀

I'm loving the honking great gak sniffs between every sentence.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 09:46:53 PM
Quote from: badaids on June 06, 2022, 09:44:34 PMI'm loving the honking great gak sniffs between every sentence.

He proper looked like he had just pulled himself out of a toilet somewhere, surprised Zahawi didn't wade in grab his shoulders and hand him a shot of Jaeger.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: badaids on June 06, 2022, 09:47:14 PM
He wants to focus on carrying on doing all the things that are all the stuff that the public want them to talk about which are all the things they are doing to help the public which are all the things they are doing.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Das Reboot on June 06, 2022, 09:47:42 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on June 06, 2022, 09:32:36 PMremember churchill lost an election but was then wheeled out as a old tory cunt and got back in

Two elections - he lost in 1950 as well as 1945.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fry on June 06, 2022, 09:49:27 PM
From my incredibly uneducated position, it feels like this is good for Johnson and bad for the Tories as a whole. Therefore a great result.

It's not like there is anything (short of the cunt getting what he actually deserves by a very motivated person with little to lose) that will damage his lifestyle or future prospects in any real way. Wishing for him to lose his job just because it will make him feel bad will do little good in the long run.

Not like any of this matters anyway. Paper of record openly stating that white refugees are more deserving of kindness due to their race and people struggling with their gender identities are an inherent threat. Country's fucked.

Bit of intrigue to half pay attention to on my holiday, gives me something to read when I'm tired of my book. Result for your boy Fry in the end.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Midas on June 06, 2022, 09:50:11 PM
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/512/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2022/6/6/323777ea-1d7b-4f95-8af6-3cec72d384bf.jpg)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Psybro on June 06, 2022, 09:50:21 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on June 06, 2022, 09:32:36 PMremember churchill lost an election but was then wheeled out as a old tory cunt and got back in

Churchill lost the popular vote to Labour in three consecutive general elections lol
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 09:53:51 PM
I read that Patel didn't ostentatiously tweet her support. Is that true?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: touchingcloth on June 06, 2022, 09:54:23 PM
I still enjoy that when I go to Wikipedia to remind myself the period of Johnson's tenure as Lord Mayor or whatever I still enjoy that when I type his name in the second result that auto fills is "...is a Fucking Cunt".
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: bgmnts on June 06, 2022, 09:57:09 PM
Quote from: Psybro on June 06, 2022, 09:50:21 PMChurchill lost the popular vote to Labour in three consecutive general elections lol

Sort of goes to show that as a society, not only have we not learned from our mistakes, we've actually become more servile and thicker in the things that matters.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 06, 2022, 09:58:18 PM
Johnson fucked. Tories fucked.

He'll shamble on, because staying PM is more important than party or country.

I honestly expect the 1922 committee to change the rules. There's two by-elections coming and Johnson is truly not safe for another year.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: touchingcloth on June 06, 2022, 09:58:55 PM
Who's Spaffer?

Quote from: Martin Van Buren Stan on June 06, 2022, 09:42:26 PMSome absolute fucking whopper on sky news just said it's a good result because he's won a larger % of Tory mp support than he won in the leadership election. Fucking hell. BJ just said it too. Expect to hear that a lot.

Which election? The one where he faces Hunt?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Mrs Wogans lemon drizzle on June 06, 2022, 09:59:29 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 09:36:04 PMThere isn't even a recognised challenger yet

Suspect this is why mop heads managed to hang on.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 10:00:24 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on June 06, 2022, 09:57:09 PMSort of goes to show that as a society, not only have we not learned from our mistakes, we've actually become more servile and thicker in the things that matters.

But in that case the real question is how do we get people less servile and less thicker.  The plan so far seems to be expect them to hold leftwing views and if they don't call them cunts.

Might need to re-look at this.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 10:01:19 PM
Quote from: Mrs Wogans lemon drizzle on June 06, 2022, 09:59:29 PMSuspect this is why mop heads managed to hang on.

yes also why didn't they wait after the by-elections.  But someone will be making moves right now.  Hunt is just the stalking horse.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: bgmnts on June 06, 2022, 10:01:54 PM
Quote from: Alberon on June 06, 2022, 09:58:18 PMJohnson fucked. Tories fucked.

Optimistic.

Quote from: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 10:00:24 PMBut in that case the real question is how do we get people less senile and less thicker.  The plan so far seems to be expect them to hold leftwing views and if they don't call them cunts.

Might need to re-look at this.

I don't think you can, really.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fry on June 06, 2022, 10:04:38 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on June 06, 2022, 10:01:54 PMOptimistic.

Nah, vibe's shifted mate.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 10:04:41 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on June 06, 2022, 10:01:54 PMI don't think you can, really.

You don't think people can learn leftwing views? They have to be born with them....
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: bgmnts on June 06, 2022, 10:05:43 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 10:04:41 PMYou don't think people can learn leftwing views? There have to be born with them....

To readdress this it'd be like blowing on a forest fire to put it out.

Anyway, even if tories get absolutely fucked to oblivion the next election the replacement is a different shade of tory so who gives a fuck?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Old Nehamkin on June 06, 2022, 10:06:41 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 10:00:24 PMBut in that case the real question is how do we get people less servile and less thicker.  The plan so far seems to be expect them to hold leftwing views and if they don't call them cunts.

Might need to re-look at this.

You are the least insightful person in the world.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 10:10:17 PM
Quote from: Old Nehamkin on June 06, 2022, 10:06:41 PMYou are the least insightful person in the world.

Yeah mate.  Very insightful of you.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 10:12:34 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on June 06, 2022, 10:05:43 PMTo readdress this it'd be like blowing on a forest fire to put it out.

So there is no point promoting leftwing policies or views?

This looks bad for Corbyn.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 10:13:47 PM
BBC just did the replay of May resign-crying and storming off.  I'd forgotten about that, that was good.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on June 06, 2022, 10:14:08 PM
Quote from: touchingcloth on June 06, 2022, 09:58:55 PMWho's Spaffer?

Which election? The one where he faces Hunt?

Yeah
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: bgmnts on June 06, 2022, 10:15:15 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 10:12:34 PMSo there is no point promoting leftwing policies or views?

This looks bad for Corbyn.

In my fatalistic view, no. But then there's no point to anything.

Just as there'd be no point sticking your foot out to stop a speeding train heading straight over a cliff.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: touchingcloth on June 06, 2022, 10:16:31 PM
Quote from: Martin Van Buren Stan on June 06, 2022, 10:14:08 PMYeah

But that was 66%:44%. The man really is as dumb as a butt.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: greencalx on June 06, 2022, 10:18:29 PM
Will piss myself if Keith gets a fixed penalty notice and is forced to step down.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JamesTC on June 06, 2022, 10:20:44 PM
Good that this is over. Now Johnson can get back to doing whatever it is he does. Killing lefties or something, I think.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: dothestrand on June 06, 2022, 10:21:08 PM
Probably the worst result possible for Johnson and the Conservatives. Barely any kind of victory. A large minority of the party, from across different shades of opinion (from Ellwood to Baker) against you. Only loyalists supporting you. But no fatal blow, no real challengers, two upcoming by-elections that are likely to be humiliating. Being PM is a poisoned chalice atm, so he'll limp on until the inevitable Labour victory in two years.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 10:21:12 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on June 06, 2022, 10:15:15 PMIn my fatalistic view, no. But then there's no point to anything.

Just as there'd be no point sticking your foot out to stop a speeding train heading straight over a cliff.

Right.  Well you are completely entitled to your fatalistic opinion but it isn't true.  I mean like there is lots of evidence that you can in fact teach people better politics, to be less servile and become more informed and educated on issues, and that the human capacity for learning is nothing like putting your foot out in front a speeding train to stop it.

How about if I come round and tickle you until you agree?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: dothestrand on June 06, 2022, 10:22:07 PM
Quote from: greencalx on June 06, 2022, 10:18:29 PMWill piss myself if Keith gets a fixed penalty notice and is forced to step down.

a) I reckon Starmer thinks he'll get away with it.
b) It's never cut through with the public, so even if he resigns, it will be seen as 'honourable' and the Labour brand will be barely troubled.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: bgmnts on June 06, 2022, 10:24:33 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 10:21:12 PMRight.  Well you are completely entitled to your fatalistic opinion but it isn't true.  I mean like there is lots of evidence that you can in fact teach people better politics, to be less servile and become more informed and educated on issues, and that the human capacity for learning is nothing like putting your foot out in front a speeding train to stop it.

How about if I come round and tickle you until you agree?

I didn't say the human capacity for learning was like putting your foot out to stop a train.

I would argue that collectively we do not have the capacity to learn, as evidenced by  life and the fact that nothing fundamentally changes.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 10:25:37 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on June 06, 2022, 10:24:33 PMI didn't say the human capacity for learning was like putting your foot out to stop a train.

I would argue that collectively we do not have the capacity to learn, as evidenced by  life and the fact that nothing fundamentally changes.

and what about the tickling?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: bgmnts on June 06, 2022, 10:29:22 PM
Not entirely fussed.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on June 06, 2022, 10:30:30 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on June 06, 2022, 09:57:09 PMSort of goes to show that as a society, not only have we not learned from our mistakes, we've actually become more servile and thicker in the things that matters.

Of course. In the early 20th century there was significant class consciousness and masses of people who had very similar lives but with far, far stronger bonds than now.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 10:32:45 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on June 06, 2022, 10:29:22 PMNot entirely fussed.

Ah but not entirely against
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: bgmnts on June 06, 2022, 10:34:25 PM
I'm a tickle centrist, admittedly. Sort of uncomfortable with it but do find a perverse pleasure in it somewhere.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on June 06, 2022, 10:35:28 PM
https://twitter.com/stephan01385543/status/1533681699799896064?t=lsqpQFb5LdC5s9o37haGyQ&s=19

Kind of what bgmnts was getting at...

It's choreography, from the tweets to the interviews. Not everything happens in the exact way everyone wants but the grand plan stays on track.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 06, 2022, 10:38:53 PM
Quote from: Midas on June 06, 2022, 09:50:11 PM(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/512/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2022/6/6/323777ea-1d7b-4f95-8af6-3cec72d384bf.jpg)

never seen a solo Up The Arse Corner before. and people say Starmer isn't an innovative leader
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 10:42:44 PM
Quote from: shoulders on June 06, 2022, 10:35:28 PMhttps://twitter.com/stephan01385543/status/1533681699799896064?t=lsqpQFb5LdC5s9o37haGyQ&s=19

Kind of what bgmnts was getting at...

It's choreography, from the tweets to the interviews. Not everything happens in the exact way everyone wants but the grand plan stays on track.

Yeah everything is the same as the early 19th century, can't move for scarlet fever nowadays.  This tweet tells us more than real evidence ever could.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 10:44:38 PM
Quote from: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 06, 2022, 10:38:53 PMnever seen a solo Up The Arse Corner before. and people say Starmer isn't an innovative leader

Got the lot my leader....
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: DrGreggles on June 06, 2022, 10:47:42 PM
I was thinking earlier than anything over 100 would be a big enough number to leave him fucked, but this is hilarious.
He's still leader, but now knows that he's pretty much powerless in his own party.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 10:56:19 PM
Blimey you weren't wrong about the gak

https://twitter.com/feebee_69/status/1533928484422156289
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 06, 2022, 10:57:29 PM
Quote from: DrGreggles on June 06, 2022, 10:47:42 PMI was thinking earlier than anything over 100 would be a big enough number to leave him fucked, but this is hilarious.
He's still leader, but now knows that he's pretty much powerless in his own party.

I don't think he cares. Being PM is the start and end of his ambition.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 06, 2022, 10:57:52 PM
Quote from: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 10:56:19 PMBlimey you weren't wrong about the gak

https://twitter.com/feebee_69/status/1533928484422156289

i know a Zizek deepfake when I see one
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 10:59:36 PM
Quote from: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 10:56:19 PMBlimey you weren't wrong about the gak

https://twitter.com/feebee_69/status/1533928484422156289

Careful, I worked hard to obtain the title of least insightful person in the world.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: DrGreggles on June 06, 2022, 11:02:39 PM
Quote from: Alberon on June 06, 2022, 10:57:29 PMI don't think he cares. Being PM is the start and end of his ambition.

Nah, he wants to be powerful and respected.
He was never the latter, now he isn't the former.
All he has is a job title until his replacement is chosen - then the Tories will shit on him for everything from Covid to the cost of living.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on June 06, 2022, 11:08:27 PM
Quote from: DrGreggles on June 06, 2022, 11:02:39 PMNah, he wants to be powerful and respected.
He was never the latter, now he isn't the former.
All he has is a job title until his replacement is chosen - then the Tories will shit on him for everything from Covid to the cost of living.

Hmm. There are always biographies claiming traits from childhood apply to the present day, but I don't think he wants to be respected. If he ever did I think he left that position behind almost the moment most people became aware of his existence.

As for power, he is still PM and will carry on doing what put him there. It's not like he won't be able to get bills through parliament.

The conflicted result just displays that Tory MPs know what the rest of us know, that electorally he is both a liability and an asset. They are just stuck deciding how much of each. I wouldn't write him off. His 2019 campaign was a display of ruthless backslapping cynicism.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: DrGreggles on June 06, 2022, 11:18:21 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUmI41IXsAA8iTS?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: bgmnts on June 06, 2022, 11:20:29 PM
Fucking hell that floored me.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 06, 2022, 11:20:47 PM
Very good
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 06, 2022, 11:27:34 PM
Quote from: Das Reboot on June 06, 2022, 09:47:42 PMTwo elections - he lost in 1950 as well as 1945.
oh yeah i forgot he didnt get out by dying like the fat useless cunt he was
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Blinder Data on June 06, 2022, 11:54:10 PM
I know nothing about cocaine really, but his sniff sounded coldy to me?

It's a terrible result but we knew that Johnson would take anything better than total defeat as a resounding victory.

They will change the rules to oust him if they have to. Barring a miraculous change of fortune, he will be gone soon enough. The champagne is on ice...
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 07, 2022, 12:07:39 AM
(https://scontent-lhr8-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/280743917_1379151145924013_5348251682830840713_n.png?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=OzzjpwJEVIcAX_srIa4&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr8-2.xx&oh=03_AVIEWPy7Ib3HvuTMPvOPB55bHCLc2auvWysqF9cdbUOwZw&oe=62C432E8)

This is from an utter cunt but the kind Johnson listens to
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: bgmnts on June 07, 2022, 12:09:48 AM
The violent language used there is very telling.

Get the feeling that man legitimately wants poor people dead. Dont ask me why, just vibes.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: DrGreggles on June 07, 2022, 12:12:44 AM
Quote from: Blinder Data on June 06, 2022, 11:54:10 PMIt's a terrible result

How? Unless you mean for Johnson.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: audiocreator on June 07, 2022, 12:22:26 AM
Quote from: Martin Van Buren Stan on June 06, 2022, 02:41:17 PMNadine Dorries is vile.

Amen.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: audiocreator on June 07, 2022, 12:25:18 AM
Quote from: audiocreator on June 07, 2022, 12:22:26 AMAmen.

Gotta Amen again, sorry.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: easytarget on June 07, 2022, 05:09:18 AM
Quote from: Martin Van Buren Stan on June 06, 2022, 02:41:17 PMNadine Dorries is vile.

(https://i.imgur.com/sw7COoN.png)
The kind of Scouser that reads the S*n
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: audiocreator on June 07, 2022, 07:29:38 AM
ROFL
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 07, 2022, 07:32:33 AM
Quote from: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 09:37:12 PMFuck me. Have some dignity.

Is Zahawi implying that other Tories wouldn't be as supportive to Ukraine?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 07, 2022, 07:56:38 AM
Quote from: jobotic on June 07, 2022, 12:07:39 AM(https://scontent-lhr8-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/280743917_1379151145924013_5348251682830840713_n.png?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=OzzjpwJEVIcAX_srIa4&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr8-2.xx&oh=03_AVIEWPy7Ib3HvuTMPvOPB55bHCLc2auvWysqF9cdbUOwZw&oe=62C432E8)

This is from an utter cunt but the kind Johnson listens to

But what tangible good does "reform of institutions", "slashing tax" for businesses (presumably) and consequently removing funding from services people rely on.  The reason the culture war exists is because it is a great way of talking a load of bollocks without actually really doing anything if he wants reform the way the UK works it has to show tangible benefits to the masses of people in country, in essence it has to be "good" and not just good for some angry Brexit voting hard-right anti-immigrant folk because that isn't the majority of people in the country.  He has to do all of this whilst half of his party don't support him and are working in constituencies that are under threat of losing if they do not appease Lib Dem and possibly even Labour constituents.

That is how a parliamentary system works, it's a really great system, we need proportional representation because it has been shown that powerful people cannot be trusted with it.

I have absolutely no doubt Johnson will go out on the offensive, it is all he knows, this was as they say "costed in" from the beginning.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on June 07, 2022, 07:57:26 AM
Time is now suspended around Bovis Johnsad as apparently he has adjusted no aspect of his physical form since 10.36pm.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 07, 2022, 07:58:38 AM
His council homes sell off is his secret weapon mind but it's unlikely to be as effective as it was before for Thatcher and there is no real reason to keep him in place to do this (and of course there are serious costs to doing it).
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 07, 2022, 08:13:23 AM
Lib Dems will table a no confidence motion in Parliament today.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: greencalx on June 07, 2022, 08:24:15 AM
List of things this confidence vote has changed:

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 07, 2022, 08:25:35 AM
Daily Mail trying the "coalition of chaos" line again. They describe Starmar as "smug" and "smirking".

The paper didn't seem to have a problem with the Tory-Lib Dem coalition government though.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: superthunderstingcar on June 07, 2022, 09:00:00 AM
This thing* is bad**

* that we do

** when other people do it
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Virgo76 on June 07, 2022, 09:01:51 AM
https://chrishallamworldview.online/2022/06/07/embattled-johnson-denies-everything/ Funny! At least that was the idea...
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on June 07, 2022, 09:02:16 AM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 07, 2022, 08:25:35 AMDaily Mail trying the "coalition of chaos" line again. They describe Starmar as "smug" and "smirking".

Well, to be fair on them, he kind of does look like a Tory that has been reconstructed out of stale farts.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 07, 2022, 09:04:25 AM
Here's the sensible candidate for the position of Tory Leader setting off to work.

(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2022/06/07/TELEMMGLPICT000298871575_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=1240)

Two watches? Is that so he doesn't have to waste time remembering which arm his watch is on?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 07, 2022, 09:06:58 AM
They must hate Patel with her perma-smirk, and Johnson when he smirked his way through Covid death updates.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Glebe on June 07, 2022, 09:16:14 AM
Quote from: Alberon on June 07, 2022, 09:04:25 AMHere's the sensible candidate for the position of Tory Leader setting off to work.

(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2022/06/07/TELEMMGLPICT000298871575_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=1240)

Two watches? Is that so he doesn't have to waste time remembering which arm his watch is on?

Jeremy 'Two Watches' Hunt.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Virgo76 on June 07, 2022, 09:24:42 AM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 07, 2022, 08:25:35 AMDaily Mail trying the "coalition of chaos" line again. They describe Starmar as "smug" and "smirking".

The paper didn't seem to have a problem with the Tory-Lib Dem coalition government though.

Or the Tory-DUP one.
And both ended up being pretty chaotic.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: gilbertharding on June 07, 2022, 09:38:40 AM
Quote from: Alberon on June 07, 2022, 09:04:25 AMHere's the sensible candidate for the position of Tory Leader setting off to work.

(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2022/06/07/TELEMMGLPICT000298871575_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=1240)

Two watches? Is that so he doesn't have to waste time remembering which arm his watch is on?

Clearly his motto is 'Strava or it didn't happen'.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 07, 2022, 09:50:19 AM
Hunt will not stand again.  He is just the stalking horse.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Harry Badger on June 07, 2022, 09:55:51 AM
Yes, he is very much the Heseltine of this (without the charisma or guiding political philosophy). Yet still the bookies favourite at 7/2.

Tom Tugendhat second favourite at 5/1. Yet his name is never mentioned as a possible successor. What's going on there I wonder? Large stakes being placed by his mates in MI6?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: DrGreggles on June 07, 2022, 10:02:49 AM
Quote from: Harry Badger on June 07, 2022, 09:55:51 AMYes, he is very much the Heseltine of this (without the charisma or guiding political philosophy). Yet still the bookies favourite at 7/2.

He's only the favourite until names get thrown into the ring. Pretty much any names.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Blinder Data on June 07, 2022, 10:05:07 AM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on June 07, 2022, 09:50:19 AMHunt will not stand again.  He is just the stalking horse.

He will definitely stand, as he quite reasonably thinks he could do a better job than Johnson (even though he is himself an idiot). He won't win if he's put to the rabid Tory membership though.

Loads of people who have no chance (e.g. Tom Tugendhat) will stand. The next leader will almost certainly be a serving Cabinet minister. Wallace probably doesn't fancy it, Sunak has crashed and burned, Patel is dangerously incompetent, Morduant doesn't have the profile, Javid and Zahawi too rich and boring - which is why I think all roads lead to Truss...
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Post by: Endicott on June 07, 2022, 10:09:33 AM
Why haven't you written off Truss for the same reason you dismissed Patel?
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Post by: Harry Badger on June 07, 2022, 10:15:45 AM
My money (all £1 of it) is on Wallace as the John Major of this bunch. I did put money on Patel years ago as I thought 1) the Tories would love to have the first BAME prime minister and b) is insanely right-wing but that appears to have gone for a burton - she's currently 33/1.

I thought Truss too then I remembered she was actually a Remainer and that would surely rule her out. Mordaunt?

Current Betfair odds, for what they are worth:
7/2
Jeremy Hunt
5/1
Liz Truss
5/1 (was 4/1 yesterday)
Tom Tugendhat
5/1
Penny Mordaunt
15/2
Rishi Sunak
8/1
Ben Wallace
10/1
Nadhim Zahawi
16/1
Sajid Javid
20/1
Michael Gove
20/1
David Frost
25/1
Dominic Raab
33/1
Priti Patel
33/1
Tobias Ellwood
33/1
Steve Baker
33/1
Kwasi Kwarteng
40/1 bar those
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Post by: Replies From View on June 07, 2022, 10:18:53 AM
Quote from: Alberon on June 07, 2022, 09:04:25 AMHere's the sensible candidate for the position of Tory Leader setting off to work.

(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2022/06/07/TELEMMGLPICT000298871575_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=1240)

Two watches? Is that so he doesn't have to waste time remembering which arm his watch is on?

About to cycle down a flight of stairs, with a closed door immediately behind him.
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Post by: Replies From View on June 07, 2022, 10:22:07 AM
Mordaunt is a fantastic name, evoking moribund, maudlin and mouldiness all within one carapace.
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Post by: gilbertharding on June 07, 2022, 10:25:21 AM
If Tugendhat goes for it and wins, he will be the second Prime Minister I've met.
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Post by: gilbertharding on June 07, 2022, 10:26:33 AM
Quote from: Alberon on June 07, 2022, 09:04:25 AMHere's the sensible candidate for the position of Tory Leader setting off to work.

(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2022/06/07/TELEMMGLPICT000298871575_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=1240)

Two watches? Is that so he doesn't have to waste time remembering which arm his watch is on?

Same vibe:

(https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2012/01/03/09/02_banana-mili-415.jpg?width=640)
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Post by: Captain Z on June 07, 2022, 10:26:47 AM
Two watches, Jeremy? Two? That's insane.
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Post by: jobotic on June 07, 2022, 10:27:34 AM
I'm getting one of those dildo saddles.
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 07, 2022, 10:28:52 AM
Stalking horses still "stand" but they are not doing it sincerely (I know they changed the rules so this doesn't mean they need stalking horses to precipitate a leadership challenge but in essence it remains the same as Hunt is showing).  He obviously won't win.....hence why he is the stalking horse.

Truss is popular with the membership but that is waning and there are questions about how she would perform in a contest.  Wallace is the new kid on the block here but Morduants lack of profile might well work in her favour as they need a unity candidate.  Note they need a unity candidate, they might not get it, the tory membership and selection process is quite volatile and they might well want to go for a non-unity candidate, perhaps even Johnson again - which leaves them stuck between their membership and the country.
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 07, 2022, 10:33:29 AM
Ah just clocked that Wallace is a BALD, can't have a BALD as PM, thems the rules.
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 07, 2022, 10:43:33 AM
It's really interesting how Johnson is tied to his delusional PR.  He needs to keep telling people "things are great" it's "GREAT, that we had a VONC" etc... because it washes with Brexit soundbites non-thinkers but for the rest of the people he needs to vote for him it just comes across as insulting and delusional.  His performance last night will have gone down very badly with a lot of his conservative voters.
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 07, 2022, 11:11:40 AM
Lee Anderson says there is a witch hunt against Johnson "led by the BBC, by the Labour Party...and the mainstream media" and says "come back to me in two years when he has delivered on his promises".
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Post by: jobotic on June 07, 2022, 11:14:17 AM
Of course, which is why we need to "reform institutions".
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Post by: Jumblegraws on June 07, 2022, 11:17:41 AM
Quote from: Alberon on June 07, 2022, 09:04:25 AMHere's the sensible candidate for the position of Tory Leader setting off to work.

(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2022/06/07/TELEMMGLPICT000298871575_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=1240)
Honestly thought that was Bodger from Bodger & Badger for a second there
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Post by: Paul Calf on June 07, 2022, 11:19:52 AM
Quote from: Mr_Simnock on June 06, 2022, 02:49:34 PM...in debt for £100,000 and you haven't payed your rent for a year...

Blimey. How big is your house?
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Post by: Zero Gravitas on June 07, 2022, 11:56:15 AM
Quote from: jobotic on June 06, 2022, 09:37:12 PM
QuoteNadhim Zahawi, the education secretary, told Sky News that Volodymyr Zelenskiy, the Ukrainian president, would be "punching the air" tonight because his ally, Boris Johnson, will remain as PM tomorrow.
Fuck me. Have some dignity.

Quote from: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-60289386?ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:13181e7d-8866-433a-97e1-2997851ea0f9&pinned_post_asset_id=629f2b41b622de4ef91239efUkrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky says he is "very happy" that Boris Johnson remains in post.
"I'm glad we haven't lost an important ally, this is great news,"

Mykhaylo Podolyak, one of Zelensky's advisers, tweeted in English moments after the confidence vote:
"Leadership is always a heavy burden. Boris Johnson was one of the first who realized the menace of Russia & stood by Volodymyr Zelensky to protect the free world from barbaric invasion."
"The world needs such leaders. The UK is a Great friend of Ukraine. British crown is a shield of democratic world."

I'm definitely going to start calling it The Ukraine again.
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Post by: jobotic on June 07, 2022, 11:59:07 AM
Funcrusher was right - they are fascists.
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 07, 2022, 12:00:34 PM
Draw a line under it
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Post by: Mr_Simnock on June 07, 2022, 12:06:23 PM
it
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 07, 2022, 12:10:50 PM
Thanks
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Post by: Replies From View on June 07, 2022, 12:17:40 PM
Quote from: Captain Z on June 07, 2022, 10:26:47 AMTwo watches, Jeremy? Two? That's insane.

Two Jags was already taken
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Post by: Mr_Simnock on June 07, 2022, 12:21:57 PM
Quote from: Paul Calf on June 07, 2022, 11:19:52 AMBlimey. How big is your house?

about as big as a house
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 07, 2022, 12:34:20 PM
Will Zelensky's comments help keep Johnson in post? I hope he only said it so Johnson continues helping Ukraine.
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Post by: Butchers Blind on June 07, 2022, 12:38:21 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 07, 2022, 12:34:20 PMWill Zelensky's comments help keep Johnson in post? I hope he only said it so Johnson continues helping Ukraine.

I think you'll find his name's Volodymyr not Will.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Blinder Data on June 07, 2022, 12:44:45 PM
Quote from: Endicott on June 07, 2022, 10:09:33 AMWhy haven't you written off Truss for the same reason you dismissed Patel?

The membership loved her until they realised she can't stop the migrant crossings. Home Secretary is often where political careers end - Theresa May was the exception. Plus she is really, really dumb.

Truss isn't a brainbox obvs but is a cannier operator. Once a Remainer but now as Brexity as anyone. She's been quietly preparing for a leadership bid for months and will delight the membership by emulating Thatcher. MPs might try to keep her off the ballot but I think she stands the best chance of getting to the final two and winning the membership vote.
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Post by: Virgo76 on June 07, 2022, 12:53:41 PM
Quote from: gilbertharding on June 07, 2022, 10:25:21 AMIf Tugendhat goes for it and wins, he will be the second Prime Minister I've met.

Well that changes everything.
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 07, 2022, 12:56:50 PM
Tom Tuggin' Twat
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Post by: Mr Farenheit on June 07, 2022, 01:48:28 PM
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1534129493845196801?t=PScUhj-rmJ8FRzM8IrCXMw&s=19 (https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1534129493845196801?t=PScUhj-rmJ8FRzM8IrCXMw&s=19)
QuoteBoris Johnson's spokesman says the Prime Minister will transform the NHS into "a blockbuster health care system in the age of Netflix."

Asked repeatedly to explain what this means, Johnson's spokesman is unable to say which features of Netflix he believes the NHS should imitate
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Post by: FredNurke on June 07, 2022, 01:51:08 PM
Takes on a whole new meaning if you spell it 'Blockbuster'.
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Post by: Mr_Simnock on June 07, 2022, 01:54:09 PM
new subscription based nhs starting at £100 a month for simply having access to a pre recorded voice of a GP telling you to go to hospital all the way to £1000 for the current full services (this will of course not include the actual bill for any stays in hospital for longer than 2 hours, not the cost of any drug prescriptions over the price of £5 per year, nor the 'seen by GP fee' after the first 2 annual free visits are used, ambulance journeys over 3 miles also aren't covered)
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Post by: Cold Meat Platter on June 07, 2022, 01:58:54 PM
'Services leaving NHSFlix this month: Heart Bypass, Chemo, Mental Health Provision...'
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Post by: Pranet on June 07, 2022, 01:59:55 PM
I had just literally typed out a version of that joke. Your take on it is better though, just as well. 
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Post by: Butchers Blind on June 07, 2022, 02:06:24 PM
Can you use someone else's login?
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Post by: touchingcloth on June 07, 2022, 02:09:07 PM
They post the GP appointment to you in the mail and you have to rewind it before you send it back.
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Post by: touchingcloth on June 07, 2022, 02:09:43 PM
It's probably not, but for all I know this could be the same Johnson

(https://i.imgur.com/KdrRgmr.jpg)
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Post by: Norton Canes on June 07, 2022, 02:15:21 PM
Netflix and ill
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Post by: JamesTC on June 07, 2022, 02:58:34 PM
Netflix is such a bastion of financial strength worth imitating.
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Post by: JamesTC on June 07, 2022, 03:05:49 PM
Quote from: Cold Meat Platter on June 07, 2022, 01:58:54 PM'Services leaving NHSFlix this month: Heart Bypass, Chemo, Mental Health Provision...'

Customers who received Chemotherapy also ordered...
Palliative Care
Hair Loss Treatment
Cremation

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Post by: Zero Gravitas on June 07, 2022, 03:10:19 PM
Nah, Netflix groups content into clouds of genre concepts,

Ominous ● Scandalous ● True Crime
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Post by: robhug on June 07, 2022, 04:05:24 PM
I've always said they should run the NHS as if they were running Netflix, Im glad i voted brexit to help make this happen
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 07, 2022, 04:28:08 PM
This feels a bit like when our head of Sixth Form gave what was supposed to be an inspirational assembly on how we should be like MG Rover Group.
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Post by: Zero Gravitas on June 07, 2022, 04:29:04 PM
"a blockbuster health care system in the age of Netflix"

That's "Money Heist", they're talking about isn't it?

That's "All of Us Are Dead", they're talking about isn't it?

Ah no wait!

That's "Extraction", they're talking about isn't it?
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Post by: jobotic on June 07, 2022, 04:36:21 PM
Less BBC more L!VE TV
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Post by: Blumf on June 07, 2022, 04:57:39 PM
Good news for fans of Alan Clarke, Ken Loach, and Mike Leigh, says PM whilst implementing new Social Realism Plus policy package.
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 08, 2022, 08:59:52 AM
Guardian claims Tory MPs are planning "vote strikes" if the government doesn't do what it wants. Given the MPs who voted against Johnson are from all sides of the party, I doubt the government would lose its majority in many votes but it could be interesting.
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Post by: jobotic on June 08, 2022, 09:33:44 AM
When the policies are abolishing tax for the rich, an end to environmental regulation and making refugees eat socialists they'll all fall into line.
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Post by: Blumf on June 08, 2022, 09:43:40 AM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 08, 2022, 08:59:52 AMGuardian claims Tory MPs are planning "vote strikes" if the government doesn't do what it wants.

They'll be forming a union next, the bolshie layabouts!
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 08, 2022, 10:11:07 AM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 08, 2022, 08:59:52 AMGuardian claims Tory MPs are planning "vote strikes" if the government doesn't do what it wants. Given the MPs who voted against Johnson are from all sides of the party, I doubt the government would lose its majority in many votes but it could be interesting.

The Tories have a majority of 77, so it doesn't need all 148 rebels to defy the whip in order to seriously derail government business.
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Post by: Blinder Data on June 08, 2022, 10:13:55 AM
Finkelstein in The Times saying Johnson might just survive (until the election at least). Plausible.

QuoteWhy we shouldn't write off Boris Johnson just yet

The cabinet backs him and the rebels are a disparate, rudderless faction — meaning the PM is stronger than you think


What happens now? Nothing. Nothing happens now. Weren't you following? It happened and now it has stopped happening. Boris Johnson was prime minister yesterday and the day before yesterday, and will now be prime minister tomorrow and the day after tomorrow.

I do not share the view that Johnson is weaker now than he was last week. What we gained was knowledge of the size of the opposition to him, which turned out to be substantial but not large enough to depose him. What he gained in return was a large measure of protection against forthcoming difficulties. I think the latter gain was greater than the former. In many ways, Johnson is now more secure in office than he was.

In December I pointed out how rare it was for prime ministers to be removed by their party while in office. It had never happened to someone who had recently won their first majority. I argued that removing a prime minister is harder than it sounds. This remains the case.

Just as there was last week, there are two big political problems ahead for the prime minister. There are by-elections he seems bound to lose badly, and there is a report from the Commons privileges committee, which could conclude that he lied to the House and suspend him from it. Either could, in normal circumstances, lead to his resignation. As a result of Monday's vote, the by-elections are substantially less likely to result in him being ousted. And even the privileges committee is mildly less likely to prompt that than it was.

There are consequences to trying to push out the prime minister and failing. His allies are right to say that a win is a win.

The rules now allow him a period of grace of a year before another ballot can be held. It is true that the backbench 1922 Committee can change its rules. But it should not be assumed that it will. And at the very least Johnson has added that obstacle to those that his opponents need to overcome.

There has been quite a lot of comment to the effect that, never mind the rules, he has to go. And, yes, I believe he should go. I wish he would go. I would have voted for him to go. But he doesn't have to go. That was the whole question MPs were being asked to determine on Monday. Did he have to go? And they decided that no, he did not.

I think the chances of him deciding that, to be a good chap, he really ought to go are minimal, don't you? That's not who he is, or how he thinks, or what he has built his political success upon. If he was that sort of person, Monday's vote wouldn't have been necessary since he would already have resigned.

And his support comes largely from those people who take a similarly tough view. They, on the whole, think it weak to resign because you just "ought" to, for everyone else's sake or because of some code of honour. That's one of the reasons they stuck with him. So they aren't likely to change their mind about it now.

If there had been a cabinet revolt on Monday, Johnson would probably have lost. But there wasn't. Why would there be one now?

There is, as I have argued before, a market failure in political coups. Each individual who rebels takes a risk, but they aren't able to guarantee they will receive the reward for that risk. So they show loyalty not to the prime minister but to themselves. That logic held on Monday and there is every reason to believe it will keep holding.

Lots of cabinet ministers want the prime minister's job and do not have much time for the incumbent. But they are hoping that somehow the job will come to them, rather than them having to go for it. And it will not.

Penny Mordaunt clearly weighed this all up on Monday. She seems to have concluded she couldn't act by herself and that even the act of trying to concert opposition would fail. That is more true now than it was then, isn't it? Anyone who wants it has to risk it, and the risk calculation doesn't seem a good one.

The only person who took a risk on Monday was Jeremy Hunt. And he, of course, had less to lose (although not nothing to lose; he showed courage). As a result the rebels have gained a leader, which is important. But Boris Johnson has gained the fact that the leader is Jeremy Hunt. Because for all his considerable capabilities, Hunt's appeal to Tories, and indeed to the country, is not universal.

A skilfully led rebel army could weaken the government, inflicting upon it defeat after defeat until it collapses, exhausted. This was done to Theresa May, but she did not have a majority. And the rebels shared a cause and an outlook. Johnson's opponents do not. This has been portrayed as a strength of the rebellion — that the loss of faith is so widespread. But it could also be seen as the weakness of the rebellion: it is too diverse, it lacks an ideological centre.

None of this matters, of course, if opposition to the prime minister turns out to be cumulative. Observers yesterday were noting that only 32 more MPs need desert the prime minister and he is out. But this depends on those who opposed him on Monday continuing to oppose him. And I am not sure they will.

In a year's time, the prime minister will indeed have added some further doubters. But the immediate cause of this rebellion — the disastrous and unethical parties — will have receded somewhat. Voters will have integrated them into their opinions of the government, but they may no longer be front of mind. MPs may not have it in the front of their minds either.

In its place might have come a new cause of discontent, but it might split the party differently, reuniting the prime minister with some of the rebels even as he loses others. The issue of lockdown parties united Jeremy Hunt and Steve Baker. The next issue may not.

And there will be an election coming. In a year's time Downing Street might plausibly start to argue it is too late to change. MPs may conclude it is too late in the cycle to start making trouble.

Any leader with so many internal opponents is in trouble. So, of course, Johnson is in trouble. He's been in trouble for ages. And in the end the trouble might get him. But for now Boris Johnson isn't toast, or over, or a dead man walking. He's prime minister. Just as he was last week and just as he will be next week.
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 08, 2022, 10:21:00 AM
I find it hard to believe that this really is as Davis says an unorganised coup.  It's just a good coup (take note chicken coupers).

There are some issues with having such a majority without a clear consensus on direction, people keep talking about all these hard right policies that all the tories love but that isn't how it works the "red wall" has significantly different interests from the Mayfair set, brexit and immigration issues were the scapegoat catch all that could straddle that devide but now it is "done" the faults lines re-emerge.
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 08, 2022, 10:23:47 AM
Quote from: Blinder Data on June 08, 2022, 10:13:55 AMFinkelstein in The Times saying Johnson might just survive (until the election at least). Plausible.

Good best he stays for as long as possible.  I don't think this will be the case though.
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 08, 2022, 10:30:17 AM
Quote from: Blinder Data on June 08, 2022, 10:13:55 AMFinkelstein in The Times saying Johnson might just survive (until the election at least). Plausible.

This is plausible, but entirely relies on him making it through the next three years without getting embroiled in further scandals, something which doesn't feel particularly likely.
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Post by: shoulders on June 08, 2022, 10:38:02 AM
Quote from: Huxleys Babkins on June 08, 2022, 10:11:07 AMThe Tories have a majority of 77, so it doesn't need all 148 rebels to defy the whip in order to seriously derail government business.

But they are only rebelling against his leadership, not the actual agenda and bills of the government. Not sure why people keep conflating that. It is one thing to say you haven't got confidence in the leader at one snapshot of time, another to back that up by concertedly refusing to back any of the existing program in one vote after another spanning years.
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 08, 2022, 10:53:47 AM
Quote from: Blinder Data on June 08, 2022, 10:13:55 AMFinkelstein in The Times saying Johnson might just survive (until the election at least). Plausible.

its all just a bit of panto to cunts like this. Tory lord Danny doesnt give a fuck about the damage legend bozza's government has done to this country. Just as long as hes still an important wealthy person and the tories are in power
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 08, 2022, 11:01:27 AM
Quote from: shoulders on June 08, 2022, 10:38:02 AMBut they are only rebelling against his leadership, not the actual agenda and bills of the government. Not sure why people keep conflating that. It is one thing to say you haven't got confidence in the leader at one snapshot of time, another to back that up by concertedly refusing to back any of the existing program in one vote after another spanning years.

They will vote on the basis of what is most expedient to the electorate in their constituency they serve.  Of course a VONC is a lack of faith in the party leader to deliver for their constituents and country, it is a big thing.  It isn't about ending Johnson or the Tories it is absolutely about preserving them.

I cannot see anyone conflating anything, having 40% of your own MPs vote against you is very bad "by all historical precedence" so I'm not sure why this is such an issue and why you seemingly want to make out people are saying anything ultimately other than this.
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 08, 2022, 11:09:51 AM
Quote from: shoulders on June 08, 2022, 10:38:02 AMBut they are only rebelling against his leadership, not the actual agenda and bills of the government. Not sure why people keep conflating that. It is one thing to say you haven't got confidence in the leader at one snapshot of time, another to back that up by concertedly refusing to back any of the existing program in one vote after another spanning years.

That's not entirely true. We've already seen backbench rebellions that have been warded off with U-turns; the school meals, the Huawei ban, etc. Whilst I don't expect to see much rebellion to key manifesto pledges (unless rebels see them being particularly unpopular in their constituencies), reactive legislation and opposition motions will be another matter altogether.
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Post by: gilbertharding on June 08, 2022, 02:16:00 PM
Saw this on Instagram.
(https://i.imgur.com/iLN4CgN.jpg)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on June 08, 2022, 05:16:15 PM
Quote from: gilbertharding on June 08, 2022, 02:16:00 PMSaw this on Instagram.
(https://i.imgur.com/iLN4CgN.jpg)

What does it mean to have a footballer in a photo
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Endicott on June 08, 2022, 05:26:17 PM
That's Gary Lineker just after Gazza got booked in the England game. Gazza was playing a blinder but the booking meant he would miss the next game, which I think that would have been a final (can't remember) although in the end England lost anyway. But anyway the booking made Gazza very sad, Lineker's look back to the bench there basically saying he though Gazza might have a breakdown.

I've got no fucking idea how that relates to Boris Johnson.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on June 08, 2022, 05:34:05 PM
Quote from: Endicott on June 08, 2022, 05:26:17 PMThat's Gary Lineker just after Gazza got booked in the England game. Gazza was playing a blinder but the booking meant he would miss the next game, which I think that would have been a final (can't remember) although in the end England lost anyway. But anyway the booking made Gazza very sad, Lineker's look back to the bench there basically saying he though Gazza might have a breakdown.

I've got no fucking idea how that relates to Boris Johnson.

Implying that he's got away with it this time but ultimately is finished?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Endicott on June 08, 2022, 05:38:59 PM
Implying Johnson has anything in common with '96 era Gascoigne is completely insane. Maybe there's an angle I'm not seeing, or maybe that was gh's original point.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: imitationleather on June 08, 2022, 05:40:06 PM
Quote from: Endicott on June 08, 2022, 05:38:59 PM'96 era Gascoigne

The original pic is from the Italia '90 semi-final, mate.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: notjosh on June 08, 2022, 05:48:13 PM
Quote from: Endicott on June 08, 2022, 05:26:17 PMI've got no fucking idea how that relates to Boris Johnson.

Lineker's mime to the bench was: 'have a word with him'.

The subtext was: 'this cunt's about to absolutely fucking lose it'.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: notjosh on June 08, 2022, 05:49:05 PM
Quote from: Alberon on June 07, 2022, 09:04:25 AMHere's the sensible candidate for the position of Tory Leader setting off to work.


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Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 08, 2022, 05:52:31 PM
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Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Endicott on June 08, 2022, 06:31:36 PM
Quote from: imitationleather on June 08, 2022, 05:40:06 PMThe original pic is from the Italia '90 semi-final, mate.

Ha! Knew I should have just said '90s era.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: gilbertharding on June 08, 2022, 08:08:12 PM
Quote from: Endicott on June 08, 2022, 05:26:17 PMThat's Gary Lineker just after Gazza got booked in the England game. Gazza was playing a blinder but the booking meant he would miss the next game, which I think that would have been a final (can't remember) although in the end England lost anyway. But anyway the booking made Gazza very sad, Lineker's look back to the bench there basically saying he though Gazza might have a breakdown.

I've got no fucking idea how that relates to Boris Johnson.

The account in question deals in amusing lookalikes (although someone else concocted this image, apparently), so I don't think it's much deeper than that. I just found the image amusing.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: gilbertharding on June 08, 2022, 08:15:19 PM
Quote from: Endicott on June 08, 2022, 05:38:59 PMImplying Johnson has anything in common with '96 era Gascoigne is completely insane. Maybe there's an angle I'm not seeing, or maybe that was gh's original point.

It's purely the visual reflection, don't worry about it. In different ways both Johnson and Gascoigne are 'daft as a brush' too, I guess.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Endicott on June 08, 2022, 08:39:06 PM
Cheers @gilbertharding . Can't remember why I got worked up over a meme anyway, it's been a
 long day.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 09, 2022, 09:44:33 AM
James O'Brien has compared Boris Johnson to a 'screaming, yoghurt-smeared toddler'.

How can Johnson stay PM after that?

"There's a lot of yogurt, and a lot of smearing"

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on June 09, 2022, 10:00:08 AM
Unfair to toddlers isn't it
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 09, 2022, 10:16:25 AM
James O'Brien is a screaming, yoghurt-smeared grown up.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 09, 2022, 10:18:42 AM
Imagine a universe where Corbyn won and people like O'Brien would have much less to complain about. They'd still be screaming while smeared with yogurt though.

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 09, 2022, 10:19:51 AM
Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on June 09, 2022, 10:00:08 AMUnfair to toddlers isn't it

Exactly, no toddler has been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands through a pathetic pandemic response and only caring about the wealthy.

I wonder if Johnson poos and wees himself as much as a toddler.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 09, 2022, 10:26:54 AM
Caught a bit of JOB in the car yesterday where he was arguing with a Muslim caller about some controversial film and compared him supporting Cineworld not screening the film to being like the Taliban.

I mean I agree, films shouldn't be cancelled especially on religious grounds, but I don't think intimating a Muslim caller is equivalent to the Taliban is OK really.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 09, 2022, 10:32:55 AM
I've mentioned before JOB is such an interesting and bizarre character for the left he really deserves more consideration that just "bad centrist/adorable lefty" he is an important artifice of modern mainstream leftism, a confused contradictory mess of how a populist leftwing figure can exist in a rightwing dominated media. 

He is really good and really bad all at the same time there is differently something to learn from the spectacle, just not necessarily the person himself.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: bgmnts on June 09, 2022, 02:47:44 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/09/boris-johnson-warns-wage-price-spiral-workers-demand-higher-pay

The reservoir of visceral hatred for this serial lawbreaking liar cunt runs deeper than I thought possible.

Just not one mention of the fact that there are a few people out there who have enough money to help the entire economy if they were pressed. Hate hate hate hate this horrible bastard.

QuoteIn a speech that also included several new housing policies, the prime minister said the government should reject what he called the "Covid mindset," that more state spending is the answer to every problem, and instead focus on cutting regulation to unleash growth.

Fuck does any of this mean? Unleash growth? Growth has been unleashed if you mean poverty and inflation. Fucking horrible bastard useless cunt.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 09, 2022, 02:53:18 PM
Oh look, he was talking out of his arse again.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-58814707
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Pink Gregory on June 09, 2022, 03:21:46 PM
How long do you need to signal to Capital until they fucking get it, and the rest is filling dead air?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Pranet on June 09, 2022, 05:18:21 PM
The housing stuff is bat shit on every level.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 09, 2022, 05:24:38 PM
wow i didn't know the spend "don't spend your way out of inflation" also applied to businesses paying for labour

the organic and decentralised private sector is so smart, always one step ahead
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 09, 2022, 05:55:07 PM
Quote from: Pranet on June 09, 2022, 05:18:21 PMThe housing stuff is bat shit on every level.

Yes. It's also old stuff. There's nothing stopping benefit claimants from buying a home already (other than the reality that nobody on benefits can realistically pass affordability checks for a mortgage) and George Osborne tried to introduce RTB for housing association tenants in 2012, but the HAs somewhat unsurprisingly refused to sell off their assets for fuck all and threatened the government with legal action, forcing him to back down.

Johnson knows none of it will work, but it doesn't matter. He's only announced it to get him through the week. He can worry about the reality of it later.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Pranet on June 09, 2022, 06:21:28 PM
Yes- it is hard enough to find a private landlord that will let you rent their property if you are on benefits, can't see mortgage lenders being any more accommodating.

I work for a HA (and I rent from a different one). The tories hate them now, after liking them when they wanted them to take over from local authorities as housing providers. I remember the Osbourne/Cameron attack on them, they also had to reduce their rents every year for a number of years. Of course they just bumped up the service charges.

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on June 09, 2022, 10:07:08 PM
All seems very normal.

(https://i.redd.it/owh8lqvftl491.png)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: bgmnts on June 09, 2022, 10:13:32 PM
How can you anyone normal read that and ot be filled with an absolutely insane amount of rage and desire to enact a violent, swift revolution on the spot; have all these cunts' heads on massive pikes in every town center as a warning not to be a hateful little goblin prick.

I dont get why you wouldnt want to fucking bin them all into the ocean right now.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Endicott on June 09, 2022, 10:55:41 PM
My first thought was, it's The Telegraph, it's all 'social mobility tsar will say', she probably won't say this at all. Turns out she has.

Know. Your. Place.

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Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on June 09, 2022, 11:04:24 PM
Quote from: Ferris on June 09, 2022, 10:07:08 PMAll seems very normal.

(https://i.redd.it/owh8lqvftl491.png)

Hoho that's an absolute doozy.

So much for the party of aspiration, eh? Masks off at the big Brexit gang bang
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 09, 2022, 11:09:11 PM
I'd seen articles about her a few times and it just sounded she wanted to turn herself into a brand by copying the daycare owner of the Ayn Rand School for Tots, that she's been given a tsar position is horrific.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 09, 2022, 11:20:54 PM
looks like we found an actual real class reductionist. put her in a museum
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Mr_Simnock on June 10, 2022, 03:11:23 AM
I'm currently very much enjoying mod headed cunts plans to revive his sad wet arse of a gov, so far all of it's bat shit insane, please keep this dickhead till then next election, keith could end up with a 300 majority just by being the beige nonentity he has crafted himself into. I wonder how far into a very nasty recession we have to get before he admits it? I can see him now in about 2 years, inflation at 15%, cost of living making 100,000 families destitute, unemployment rocketing, then this dickhead spouting out it's all going well. Keith is to go down in history as 'johnson was so bad, even this was enough to win the next election aginst him', labour could mail out soiled toilet role as it's manifesto and still win.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: gilbertharding on June 10, 2022, 09:11:19 AM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 09, 2022, 09:44:33 AMJames O'Brien has compared Boris Johnson to a 'screaming, yoghurt-smeared toddler'.

How can Johnson stay PM after that?

"There's a lot of yogurt, and a lot of smearing"



Had he just seen this cursed photo?

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/ee67fb250a2661107970ce4958bd12a9fbb6ff61/13_0_1125_675/master/1125.jpg?width=620&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=21b096354c132cb9a7df028c13f3468e)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 10, 2022, 09:12:15 AM
Seeing Johnson flailing around to find something, anything, that can get his government is both very funny (because they truly are incompetent) and disheartening (as they're running my country).

This total failure to recover won't be allowed to go on forever. He's got the two by-elections coming up which will give the party the excuse to go at him again.

He won't quit whatever happens, but the 1922 committee have the power to change the election rules whenever they want. He'll be forced out by the end of the year.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 10, 2022, 09:12:50 AM
Quote from: gilbertharding on June 10, 2022, 09:11:19 AMHad he just seen this cursed photo?

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/ee67fb250a2661107970ce4958bd12a9fbb6ff61/13_0_1125_675/master/1125.jpg?width=620&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=21b096354c132cb9a7df028c13f3468e)

That new adaptation of the Midwich Cuckoos is very scary.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: gilbertharding on June 10, 2022, 09:24:29 AM
Quote from: Alberon on June 10, 2022, 09:12:50 AMThat new adaptation of the Midwich Cuckoos is very scary.

That's the nanny in the background. You just know Stanley's been there.

We're supposed to believe these animals are our betters.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Jittlebags on June 10, 2022, 09:30:38 AM
Quote from: gilbertharding on June 10, 2022, 09:24:29 AMThat's the nanny in the background. You just know Stanley's been there.

She appears to be checking that Stanley hasn't skidded his kecks.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: robhug on June 10, 2022, 09:32:39 AM
Staners asserting his dominance there with a tremendous stance.

I've never been able to work out how his daughters are both quite attractive and also quite look like Boris.

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on June 10, 2022, 09:35:09 AM
Quote from: gilbertharding on June 10, 2022, 09:11:19 AMHad he just seen this cursed photo?

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/ee67fb250a2661107970ce4958bd12a9fbb6ff61/13_0_1125_675/master/1125.jpg?width=620&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=21b096354c132cb9a7df028c13f3468e)

Looks like a jimmy savile lookalike contest
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Mr_Simnock on June 10, 2022, 10:23:04 AM
May left in tears after being forced out, how do we think johnson will go? I can see now a very angry man child shouting during his resignation speach, blaming every one else, face red with rage, going to be good.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on June 10, 2022, 10:28:38 AM
as long as he steps out from behind the lecturn after and has quite clearly pissed himself, it's all good
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 10, 2022, 10:41:11 AM
He'll just laugh, piss everywhere then hop onto an oligarch's yacht.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 10, 2022, 10:43:00 AM
And Nadine Dorries will have to be escorted from the building after gouging out Jeremy Hunt's eyes and forcing them deep into Graham Brady's ears.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Mr_Simnock on June 10, 2022, 10:47:03 AM
I'm looking forward to dorries increasingly weird and angry lashings out at other mp's when she knows her number is up.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Captain Z on June 10, 2022, 10:51:04 AM
Quote from: Mr_Simnock on June 10, 2022, 03:11:23 AMI'm currently very much enjoying mod headed cunts plans to revive his sad wet arse of a gov, so far all of it's bat shit insane, please keep this dickhead till then next election, keith could end up with a 300 majority just by being the beige nonentity he has crafted himself into. I wonder how far into a very nasty recession we have to get before he admits it? I can see him now in about 2 years, inflation at 15%, cost of living making 100,000 families destitute, unemployment rocketing, then this dickhead spouting out it's all going well. Keith is to go down in history as 'johnson was so bad, even this was enough to win the next election aginst him', labour could mail out soiled toilet role as it's manifesto and still win.

Bless.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 10, 2022, 11:39:59 AM
Quote from: Mr_Simnock on June 10, 2022, 10:47:03 AMI'm looking forward to dorries increasingly weird and angry lashings out at other mp's when she knows her number is up.

Looks like she's going to try and curry favour by doing some fascism.

(https://i.imgur.com/xEh6qeo.jpeg)


Proxy of the DM study if anyone wants to read:
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2Fnews%2Farticle-10902459%2FMail-audit-reveals-web-searches-Boris-Johnson-results-news-sites-hostile-him.html
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Psybro on June 10, 2022, 12:05:23 PM
Quote from: Ferris on June 09, 2022, 10:07:08 PMAll seems very normal.

(https://i.redd.it/owh8lqvftl491.png)

QuoteIn an interview with Sky News, asked if he was a good role model, she replied:

No, I don't think so. I wish he could be but he isn't and that is a bit sad.

I like Boris, I don't think he's a bad guy.

I don't know enough about what he's got up to but I do not think that he is a good role model for children.

Go on...

QuoteThe other day I saw a picture of him in the Metro and I looked at his hair and I thought - oh my goodness - we expect our children to have professional-looking hair.

Oh for FUCK'S SAKE
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 10, 2022, 12:10:33 PM
I insist that my children have professional hair.

They are professional children, it's not a hobby.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 10, 2022, 12:19:27 PM
Quote from: Psybro on June 10, 2022, 12:05:23 PMGo on...

Oh for FUCK'S SAKE

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2022/may/22/uks-strictest-headmistress-fears-schools-will-stop-teaching-shakespeare


QuoteHer manifesto is based on 12 golden rules, which include: don't give children unsupervised access to the internet, teach them gratitude, keep your standards high, hold the line, and don't let them listen to grime or drill music because "that'll ruin their lives", she said.

"White middle-class people don't realise that, because their children can dip in and dip out and it's not an issue. Whereas your black kid in the inner city – it could literally destroy your life."

Thinking back to my time at school and Shakespeare I don't think I got much from it, mostly because the effort of untangling the prose left little room for processing any other deeper meaning and seeing how influential his work was. I know modern translations exist and I think perhaps focusing on that might actually help people to allow people to see beyond the archaic text. Of course reactionaries would oppose this and see it as dumbing down despite probably not understanding any more than I did.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Chollis on June 10, 2022, 12:21:46 PM
"we expect our children to have professional-looking hair"

what?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Butchers Blind on June 10, 2022, 12:24:22 PM
Quote from: Chollis on June 10, 2022, 12:21:46 PM"we expect our children to have professional-looking hair"

what?

Best be bald.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: robhug on June 10, 2022, 12:32:02 PM
Quote from: Chollis on June 10, 2022, 12:21:46 PM"we expect our children to have professional-looking hair"

what?

(https://i.ibb.co/HG3mdmC/1.jpg)

couldnt agree more on that
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Blumf on June 10, 2022, 12:39:18 PM
Quote from: Chollis on June 10, 2022, 12:21:46 PM"we expect our children to have professional-looking hair"

what?

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/17/15/3F52A65D00000578-0-image-a-57_1492439967779.jpg)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on June 10, 2022, 01:29:06 PM
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on June 09, 2022, 11:09:11 PMI'd seen articles about her a few times and it just sounded she wanted to turn herself into a brand by copying the daycare owner of the Ayn Rand School for Tots, that she's been given a tsar position is horrific.

Yeah she's definitely doing this shit to become a media figure, maybe get a BBC job presenting something about schools or run as a tory MP.

That said, it's still pretty mindblowing that the person tasked with social mobility in the UK is telling working class kids to just forget it and become plumbers. And there's basically no push-back!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 10, 2022, 01:56:17 PM
Quote from: Ferris on June 10, 2022, 01:29:06 PMThat said, it's still pretty mindblowing that the person tasked with social mobility in the UK is telling working class kids to just forget it and become plumbers. And there's basically no push-back!

It's even pretty mad when viewed through the bollocks Tory meritocracy lens isn't it? they love pointing out if a grocer's daughter could be PM then anyone can if they're good enough. I mean it's only used to have a chilling effect on lack of social mobility, but still.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Psybro on June 10, 2022, 01:59:01 PM
Why are we going to waste time with new grammar schools if people are already in their designated boxes?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Dex Sawash on June 10, 2022, 02:35:50 PM
Quote from: gilbertharding on June 10, 2022, 09:11:19 AMHad he just seen this cursed photo?

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/ee67fb250a2661107970ce4958bd12a9fbb6ff61/13_0_1125_675/master/1125.jpg?width=620&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=21b096354c132cb9a7df028c13f3468e)



Is the little one Jim'll ?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: gilbertharding on June 10, 2022, 02:41:28 PM
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on June 09, 2022, 11:09:11 PMI'd seen articles about her a few times and it just sounded she wanted to turn herself into a brand by copying the daycare owner of the Ayn Rand School for Tots, that she's been given a tsar position is horrific.

And you definitely can't criticise her because that would be racist.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 10, 2022, 02:45:42 PM

Posting this more for the incredible video title (and false advertising) but it is also quite good at pointing out how silly their desperate proposal to try and save Dear Leader actually is in reality.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: pigamus on June 10, 2022, 02:47:48 PM
Quote from: gilbertharding on June 10, 2022, 02:41:28 PMAnd you definitely can't criticise her because that would be racist.

Ah... had I better delete that "Sideshow Birb" tweet then...
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on June 10, 2022, 03:02:27 PM
"Uncomfortable truths" indeed, state of that Birbalsingh bilge.

Welcome to "Know Your Place" by A. Hooray-Henry Dickhead.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 10, 2022, 04:41:15 PM
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on June 10, 2022, 12:19:27 PMhttps://www.theguardian.com/education/2022/may/22/uks-strictest-headmistress-fears-schools-will-stop-teaching-shakespeare


Thinking back to my time at school and Shakespeare I don't think I got much from it, mostly because the effort of untangling the prose left little room for processing any other deeper meaning and seeing how influential his work was. I know modern translations exist and I think perhaps focusing on that might actually help people to allow people to see beyond the archaic text. Of course reactionaries would oppose this and see it as dumbing down despite probably not understanding any more than I did.

I'm incredibly invested in the idea that canonical/classical literature should be available to poors and minorities, so shit like this makes me furious - it does more to devalue Shakespeare than any Americanisation or the worst YA "decolonise the curriculum" stuff you can fine online. Its taking great works and turning them into yardsticks to measure how cultured or integrated a student is. You can really see the contours of the ideology at work when you see Shakespeare or whatever used as an instrument of gatekeeping, but on the other side of the gate the attitude tends to be openly "fuck humanities, STEM forever" - the reading and promotion of classic works is not actually valued once its fulfilled its role as a turnstyle. When Tories and centrists bring up canonical works in regards to education standards, their ideal is Boris Johnson: someone who can parrot a few lines of Homer without even remembering the context or literal meaning, someone who can use obscure words for impact in an after dinner speech, rather than someone who can engage with a classical work and do something interesting with it or say something scholarly about it.

It's really about social division. I think a lot of the status around classic literature comes down to the fact you can't teach complicated or anachronistic texts in a big classroom. You can't even have a fruitful discussion or reading group about them with university educated adults if there's about twenty people there. Yet the best headmistress in Britain expects overworked English teachers to be able to teach Shakespeare to classes of thirty five or more.

I think most students who are become familiar with classic literature before they turn 19 either have a quiet room at home and a lot of free time or they're involved in weekend or after school activities. Having relatives or friends who can take the time to engage is irreplaceable, which is going to reenforce the class divide. On the other hand taking things outside of traditional classrooms is a great way to get minority and poor kids into literature, performing arts, aesthetics, philosophy, etc. because holy shit the interest is always there but austerity has ended all that. None of the stuff I attended as a teenager exists any more. And it can't exist because the physical locations aren't even accessible because they've been sold.
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Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 10, 2022, 04:56:14 PM
and if you're really convinced about the universal value of canonical works then you wouldn't be worried that they'd evaporate off the face of earth in a single generation

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Post by: monkfromhavana on June 10, 2022, 05:11:01 PM
Quote from: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 10, 2022, 04:41:15 PMI'm incredibly invested in the idea that canonical/classical literature should be available to poors and minorities, so shit like this makes me furious - it does more to devalue Shakespeare than any Americanisation or the worst YA "decolonise the curriculum" stuff you can fine online. Its taking great works and turning them into yardsticks to measure how cultured or integrated a student is. You can really see the contours of the ideology at work when you see Shakespeare or whatever used as an instrument of gatekeeping, but on the other side of the gate the attitude tends to be openly "fuck humanities, STEM forever" - the reading and promotion of classic works is not actually valued once its fulfilled its role as a turnstyle. When Tories and centrists bring up canonical works in regards to education standards, their ideal is Boris Johnson: someone who can parrot a few lines of Homer without even remembering the context or literal meaning, someone who can use obscure words for impact in an after dinner speech, rather than someone who can engage with a classical work and do something interesting with it or say something scholarly about it.

It's really about social division. I think a lot of the status around classic literature comes down to the fact you can't teach complicated or anachronistic texts in a big classroom. You can't even have a fruitful discussion or reading group about them with university educated adults if there's about twenty people there. Yet the best headmistress in Britain expects overworked English teachers to be able to teach Shakespeare to classes of thirty five or more.

I think most students who are become familiar with classic literature before they turn 19 either have a quiet room at home and a lot of free time or they're involved in weekend or after school activities. Having relatives or friends who can take the time to engage is irreplaceable, which is going to reenforce the class divide. On the other hand taking things outside of traditional classrooms is a great way to get minority and poor kids into literature, performing arts, aesthetics, philosophy, etc. because holy shit the interest is always there but austerity has ended all that. None of the stuff I attended as a teenager exists any more. And it can't exist because the physical locations aren't even accessible because they've been sold.

Isn't this basically what they do with classical music as well. "Liking it" is seen as a signifier that you're above the riff-raff, even if you're active listening to it is whilst waving a Union Jack around at the proms.
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Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 10, 2022, 05:24:39 PM
yes. and the total lack of interest and participation in classical and art music among the majority of people should be a cautionary tale to anyone whose concern about understanding and access to canonical literature is genuine and not just a soundbite for broadsheet shiteaters

I'd argue that classical music is more exclusionary as a form (and more exclusively european and male) than "the canon" (which contains work from the entire globe) as its a more recent invention and necessarily more institutional than literature. but even so "classical music" is the rightful property of everyone alive and ideally everyone should be able to understand Mozart if they feel understanding Mozart would contribute to their lives. even if the outcome is someone writing lots of books about how liking Mozart makes you a white supremacist, it belongs to them as much as anyone else
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 10, 2022, 06:13:17 PM
I think I learned more about classical music from some of the Lemmings compositions than school assemblies and music lessons.
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Post by: olliebean on June 10, 2022, 07:45:26 PM
Honestly, teaching Shakespeare as literature is bullshit. It's not literature. It's intended to be performed and seen, not read. Teach it as drama.
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Post by: bgmnts on June 10, 2022, 07:59:51 PM
To be fair, i'm assuming almost all of us with the slightest hint of inquisitiveness learnt infinitely more after or outside of school than actually at school. School's function isn't really to learn much beyond the basic's is it? Never felt that way anyway.
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Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on June 10, 2022, 08:02:44 PM
I dunno. Isn't the point of getting your students to study a play or a novel to teach them how to analyse plot and themes and characters? Do they have to study a Shakespeare play (and its accompanying set of footnotes explaining what the words mean) to accomplish that? We studied Death of a Salesman and it's a great play, full of the evils of capitalism and generational trauma.
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Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 10, 2022, 08:42:08 PM
Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on June 10, 2022, 08:02:44 PMI dunno. Isn't the point of getting your students to study a play or a novel to teach them how to analyse plot and themes and characters? Do they have to study a Shakespeare play (and its accompanying set of footnotes explaining what the words mean) to accomplish that? We studied Death of a Salesman and it's a great play, full of the evils of capitalism and generational trauma.

Teaching students how to analyze structure and composition of fictional works is a much different thing, a different set of ideas and skill. A really effective way to do this is to take a recent or 20th century classic like Death of a Salesman or Of Mice and Man, and compare it to a piece of popular fiction. A really great teacher I knew used to show kids passages from a classic play, then play clips from Eastenders with similar themes to get the students engaged in how narrative is built in different contexts. If you've got the time, resources and a class small enough its a great way to do it.

With Shakespeare or other major canonical works, I think in general you're not really going to be talking about structure and composition but ideally giving students their first steps on the road to the big game like literary theory, aesthetics, how literature relates to other fields like philosophy (yay) and sociology (boo), historiography and the science of art etc. Of course its not necessary for everyone, I'd argue that the study of canonical works has a huge advantage for interdisciplinary education and research environments, which gives a much better prep to a world where different fields collide and, as the Americans like to say, intersect. Popular or contemporary fiction might have an advantage in teaching composition and writing skills, but its no replacement for teaching classics. If the goal is to teach "English" as both a language and a literary field its inexcusable not to have both available to everyone. Reading people like Michael Gove chime in about what should be on high school and university literature syllabi is a lot like reading someone chime in on teaching linguistic and being of the opinion that linguistics should only teach either written or spoken language, as if those two things were wholly seperate and didn't relate to each other.
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Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on June 10, 2022, 08:43:38 PM
Quote from: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 10, 2022, 08:42:08 PMTeaching students how to analyze structure and composition of fictional works is a much different thing, a different set of ideas and skill. A really effective way to do this is to take a recent or 20th century classic like Death of a Salesman or Of Mice and Man, and compare it to a piece of popular fiction. A really great teacher I knew used to show kids passages from a classic play, then play clips from Eastenders with similar themes to get the students engaged in how narrative is built in different contexts. If you've got the time, resources and a class small enough its a great way to do it.

With Shakespeare or other major canonical works, you're not really talking about structure and composition but ideally putting students on the road to the big game like literary theory, aesthetics, how literature relates to other fields like philosophy (yay) and sociology (boo), historiography and the science of art etc. I'd argue that the study of canonical works has a huge advantage for interdisciplinary education and research environments, which gives a much better prep to a world where different fields collide and, as the Americans like to say, intersect. Popular or contemporary fiction might have an advantage in teaching composition and writing skills, but its no replacement for teaching classics. If the goal is to teach "English" as both a language and a literary field its inexcusable not to have both available to everyone. Reading people like Michael Gove chime in about what should be on high school and university literature syllabi is a lot like reading someone chime in on teaching linguistic and being of the opinion that linguistics should only teach either written or spoken language, as if those two things were wholly seperate and didn't relate to each other.
Fair enough. That's why I'm not an English teacher.
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Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 10, 2022, 08:44:58 PM
Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on June 10, 2022, 08:43:38 PMFair enough. That's why I'm not an English teacher.

Me too. Too much emotional investment, hours of extra curricular work and then you're told that your class aren't allowed internet for budgetary reasons
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Post by: kalowski on June 10, 2022, 08:52:02 PM
Quote from: Captain Z on June 07, 2022, 10:26:47 AMTwo watches, Jeremy? Two? That's insane.
No, no. Look. This watch business -- it doesn't really matter. The watches aren't important. A few friends call me Two Watches and that's all there is to it. I wish you'd ask me about the politics. Everybody talks about the watches. They've got it out of proportion -- I'm a politician. I'm going to get rid of the watches I'm fed up with it!


Then you'll be Jeremy 'No Watch' Hunt, eh?
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Post by: Ferris on June 10, 2022, 11:16:55 PM
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on June 10, 2022, 06:13:17 PMI think I learned more about classical music from some of the Lemmings compositions than school assemblies and music lessons.

Genuinely couldn't tell you anything I learned about music from school, and I was (technically) a musician for a couple of years.

I have no qualifications in "music" (GCSEs, grades, A levels etc) at all and took it as a badge of pride after a while.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 10, 2022, 11:28:43 PM
I remember the keyboards fed back to a console that allowed the teacher to monitor, and go ape-shit at us via microphone if we played any of the demo tracks (which is of course all anyone who doesn't know how to play a keyboard does when faced with one). Also people getting horrendous bollockings for sneaking up behind someone and twatting a pair of symbols behind them.
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Post by: Cold Meat Platter on June 11, 2022, 12:18:31 AM
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Post by: Ferris on June 11, 2022, 12:25:41 AM
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on June 10, 2022, 11:28:43 PMI remember the keyboards fed back to a console that allowed the teacher to monitor, and go ape-shit at us via microphone if we played any of the demo tracks (which is of course all anyone who doesn't know how to play a keyboard does when faced with one). Also people getting horrendous bollockings for sneaking up behind someone and twatting a pair of symbols behind them.

The sample keyboard was always the winner. Hook it up to the main speakers, then "HI-YAAAAH!!" ad infinitum.
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Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 11, 2022, 12:29:09 AM
Our keyboards had a sound effect setting that sounded like something being thrown down stairs if you did a glissando, and there was also a setting with a bunch of yelling and babies crying. If you had at least one co-conspirator you could arrange for such classic tone poems as "baby being thrown down the stairs" and "idiot drowned in bath" to be performed for the class, which would get all the instruments turned off for the rest of the month and we'd have to copy passages from the most boring book ever. yes i know what an sound are

i think all the headphones got broken in less than a year due to kids using the wires on other kids wrists and necks. remember a kid next to me being proud that he turned his finger blue with his headphone cable, finger was fine afaik but the headphones were fucked
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Post by: greencalx on June 11, 2022, 05:22:35 PM
My school had a bank of these.


Even among the cacophony of a roomful of them being played at the same time by inexpert teenagers, the music teachers could pick out the first bar of the demo tune and shut it down before the rhythm kicked in. It would never have got as far as the bit with the disco beat.
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 12, 2022, 08:49:06 AM
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via @MarkDiStef

Another step towards totalitarianism. Wonder if Dorries will try and have some conservative search engine set up like Conservapedia is a conservative alternative to Wikipedia.
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Post by: Key on June 12, 2022, 09:26:34 AM
Google please could you showing reality? Its terribly embarrassing.
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Post by: finnquark on June 12, 2022, 10:10:45 AM
Quote from: Chollis on June 10, 2022, 12:21:46 PM"we expect our children to have professional-looking hair"

what?

I was good mates at school and college with a lad who is now senior leadership at her dreadful school, Michaela. We both now teach the same subject and about 4 years ago maybe a group of us went foe a few drinks in the Britons Protection over Christmas. Ended in a blazing row over the disgusting ethics and routines in place at Michaela (I think this was around the time they were forcing young people to have lunchtime isolation sessions if their parents had missed school meals payments). Haven't spoken since then, but I did see him on the ITV show about about school that was on recently. Really neo-Victorian shit that stuff.
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Post by: SpiderChrist on June 12, 2022, 05:58:48 PM
Quote from: finnquark on June 12, 2022, 10:10:45 AMI was good mates at school and college with a lad who is now senior leadership at her dreadful school, Michaela. We both now teach the same subject and about 4 years ago maybe a group of us went foe a few drinks in the Britons Protection over Christmas. Ended in a blazing row over the disgusting ethics and routines in place at Michaela (I think this was around the time they were forcing young people to have lunchtime isolation sessions if their parents had missed school meals payments). Haven't spoken since then, but I did see him on the ITV show about about school that was on recently. Really neo-Victorian shit that stuff.

Fuck me - what's their justification for that fuckery?
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 13, 2022, 06:53:45 PM
Government taking the information commissioner to court.

QuoteThe government is taking its own transparency regulator to court at the taxpayers' expense to try to block the release of messages between Matt Hancock and his adviser and lover Gina Coladangelo.

The information commissioner ruled in April that the Department of Health and Social Care had been wrong to withhold some emails between the pair, and ordered their release after a request from The Times...

The department's legal action to attempt to cover up the correspondence is likely to cost the taxpayer thousands of pounds. Past cases brought by the Department for Health and Social Care against the Information Commissioner's Office (ICO) to block disclosure have cost between £3,000 and £130,000, according to records obtained by the OpenDemocracy website...
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Post by: JesusAndYourBush on June 13, 2022, 11:51:49 PM
I saw this the other day and couldn't help thinking up a silly HIGNFY-style caption.

"It feels all damp and clammy...
Spoiler alert
said the cow."
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 14, 2022, 03:26:40 PM
I bet the cow's teeth are in a better state than his
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Post by: Alberon on June 15, 2022, 06:54:24 PM
Johnson's ethics advisor has resigned.

This is it! We've got him now!!
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 15, 2022, 07:00:53 PM
Quote from: Alberon on June 15, 2022, 06:54:24 PMJohnson's ethics advisor has resigned.

I honestly didn't think he had one.
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Post by: Alberon on June 15, 2022, 07:24:02 PM
Probably neither did he.
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Post by: frajer on June 15, 2022, 08:28:47 PM
Jiminy Fuckit
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Post by: Blumf on June 15, 2022, 08:30:11 PM
Quote from: Alberon on June 15, 2022, 06:54:24 PMJohnson's ethics advisor has resigned.

Either the easiest or hardest job in the world, depending on how serious you take it.
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Post by: jobotic on June 15, 2022, 08:33:03 PM
This is a blow for us all. First the Anti-Corruption Tsar and now the Ethics Advisor.

Both proud strong people who've done such a bang up job. What a loss.
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Post by: poodlefaker on June 15, 2022, 08:37:02 PM
He'll have to go now. Hang your head in shame, sir! Toodle pip, Bunter.
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Post by: jobotic on June 15, 2022, 09:41:09 PM
Wait until Marina Hyde hears about this!
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Post by: Blumf on June 15, 2022, 09:45:10 PM
Quote from: Alberon on June 15, 2022, 06:54:24 PMJohnson's ethics advisor has resigned.

I doubt Boris, or any Tory, needs advice on any of the home counties.
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Post by: Wonderful Butternut on June 15, 2022, 09:52:03 PM
Quote from: Blumf on June 15, 2022, 08:30:11 PMEither the easiest or hardest job in the world, depending on how serious you take it.

Piss easy. Just tell him everything he does is unethical, because it probably is simply on the basis Boris Johnson is doing it.

Not your problem when he doesn't listen.
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Post by: jobotic on June 15, 2022, 10:05:12 PM
Your job is help cover things up for him and his crew, that's pretty obvious.

Doubt anyone else will be appointed to this. And if they are we know why.
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Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 15, 2022, 10:42:39 PM
Boris Johnson's ethics advisor was probably a labrador with A = A spraypainted on it
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Post by: Ferris on June 15, 2022, 11:21:00 PM
Imagine taking a job as Boris Johnson's ethicist but at some point after several years deciding you were risking your reputation by staying.

Think that ship sailed mate.
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Post by: pigamus on June 15, 2022, 11:22:38 PM
His barber and his dietician are shitting themselves
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 16, 2022, 07:44:46 AM
The Renters Reform Bill actually seems like a good piece of legislation from this government. Am I missing something?

QuoteLandlords are to be prevented from evicting tenants in England without giving a reason, under proposals published in a government White Paper.

The Renters Reform Bill will also end blanket bans on benefit claimants or families with children - and landlords must consider requests to allow pets.

I don't know how much difference it will make that landlords have to give a reason or how easy it will be to enforce these rules, but it feels like a step in the right direction.
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Post by: Zetetic on June 16, 2022, 07:48:25 AM
Ending Section 21 "no-fault" evictions is, undeniably, a real victory (even in landlords will obviously find reasons to evict people).

(Also extremely embarrassing how completely Welsh Labour have fucked this up over the border. They were refusing to try to action on no-fault evictions on the basis that landlords would object. And they've fucked up even extending the notice period for people currently renting.)
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Post by: steveh on June 16, 2022, 10:33:52 AM
That story of Johnson when he was Foreign Minister escaping his security minders to go off for a wild weekend at Lebedev Senior's place in Italy gets more complex: https://twitter.com/pcaruanagalizia/status/1537320789216833536.
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Post by: jobotic on June 16, 2022, 02:05:20 PM
So it seems this resignation was orchestrated to get rid of the post of ethics advisor and make Johnson look like he was defending British industry.


Bunter - you've done it again!
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Post by: Psybro on June 16, 2022, 08:52:33 PM
Johnson getting rid of his ethics adviser post is actually the most value for money thing he will ever do.
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Post by: superthunderstingcar on June 16, 2022, 09:52:30 PM
Quote from: Psybro on June 16, 2022, 08:52:33 PMJohnson getting rid of his ethics adviser post is actually the most value for money thing he will ever do.
That depends if he also pays for a gym membership and then cancels it.

(Obviously he doesn't. A Russian Oligarch Tory Donor pays it for him.)
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Post by: jamiefairlie on June 17, 2022, 03:08:18 AM
Imagine even thinking you might need an ethics advisor.
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 17, 2022, 09:31:50 AM
Quote@Tony_Diver
NEW: The Tory candidate in the Wakefield by-election has said voters should still back the Conservatives because "we still trust GPs" after Harold Shipman killed 250 people.

Nadeem Ahmed says Imran Ahmad Khan was just "one bad apple".
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 17, 2022, 01:10:56 PM

Someone should have told Shipman he could have avoided prison if he'd just told everyone that lessons had been learned and that it was time to move on.
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Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 17, 2022, 01:13:54 PM
Quote from: Huxleys Babkins on June 17, 2022, 01:10:56 PMSomeone should have told Shipman he could have avoided prison if he'd just told everyone that lessons had been learned and that it was time to move on.

You got to wonder about the morals of people who wanted to take up his time with court cases and trials. Why wouldn't they let him get on with the important work of being a GP?
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Post by: Cold Meat Platter on June 17, 2022, 01:30:28 PM
They should just have changed the rules so that murdering old ladies was fine. Why do these people always have to make such a fuss?
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Post by: Butchers Blind on June 17, 2022, 01:40:10 PM
Shipman said that we had to focus on the real lives that matter to people.
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 17, 2022, 03:00:11 PM
Johnson has done a Sue Cook and pulled out of the Northern Research Group conference, an event held by Tories in the north to try and hold onto "red wall" seats. Apparently it will be announced why shortly.

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Post by: jobotic on June 17, 2022, 03:02:07 PM
Johnson has cancelled a trip to Wakefield followed by addressing the far-right cunts of the Northern Research Group, presumably about destroying the woke, at the last minute.

Something's come up that he has to deal with urgently.

This is it, he's gone. I reckon he read a John Crace column and just fell apart.
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 17, 2022, 03:10:07 PM
QuoteThe Conservative candidate in Tiverton and Honiton has blamed the media for preventing the public from "moving on" from Partygate and twice declined to say that Boris Johnson was honest.

In an interview with the Guardian, Helen Hurford acknowledged the party faced a very tight battle to retain the previously ultra-safe seat and criticised what she called the media's "persistent regurgitating of Partygate". Asked if she believed Boris Johnson was fundamentally honest, Hurford twice refused to say.

Its Johnson's birthday on Sunday. Maybe he has pulled out so he can make sure there is enough booze.
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Post by: Blinder Data on June 17, 2022, 03:13:48 PM
It's definitely another dose of sympathy Covid.
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Post by: jobotic on June 17, 2022, 03:39:01 PM
Aw he's gone to Kyiv.
Zelensky's always ready to help.
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Post by: Butchers Blind on June 17, 2022, 04:00:47 PM
He's such a cowardly cunt. Is this what he's going to pull every time he's getting shit at home? A quick fuck off trip to Ukraine to make himself look important for his new bessie.
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Post by: jobotic on June 17, 2022, 04:23:58 PM
He's getting on with the job of winning the war and if you don't back him you support Putin, just like the RMT, and Starmer and, um, the woke.
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Post by: Norton Canes on June 17, 2022, 04:34:57 PM
Is that a missile system in your pocket or are you just pleased to get out of your own country?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Uncle TechTip on June 17, 2022, 05:23:03 PM
The photo used to illustrate the Guardian blog shows Johnson holding a book with Tuesday 5th April on it, coincidentally four days before his last visit. No idea if that's the picture the government issued today. I reckon it's all bullshit and he's gone to one of his rich mates' yachts.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 17, 2022, 05:56:49 PM
Wonder what book Johnson gave Zelensky. Was it his novel Seventy Two Virgins which has been reported by the Independent to have antisemitic depictions of Jews? Or was it his book on Churchill whose accuracy has been disputed?

I doubt there was anything Johnson said to Zelensky that couldn't have been done over Zoom but I presume the UK government's help of Ukraine is conditional on Zelensky helping to promote Johnson. Either that or Zelensky is very naive.

Re Johnson's novel, see https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-book-jews-control-media-general-election-a9239346.html
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 17, 2022, 06:06:00 PM
Quote from: Uncle TechTip on June 17, 2022, 05:23:03 PMThe photo used to illustrate the Guardian blog shows Johnson holding a book with Tuesday 5th April on it, coincidentally four days before his last visit. No idea if that's the picture the government issued today. I reckon it's all bullshit and he's gone to one of his rich mates' yachts.

It was released on his Twitter account

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1537805704081309701

Also that tweet was pinned and another photo of them set as the account banner lol
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 17, 2022, 06:07:27 PM
fuck me he looks like one of those rubber moneyboxes that eat the coin
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BlodwynPig on June 17, 2022, 06:15:24 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on June 17, 2022, 06:06:00 PMIt was released on his Twitter account

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1537805704081309701

Also that tweet was pinned and another photo of them set as the account banner lol

Quotebig lad Ainsley maitland-Niles
@terrorising_a
·
2h
Replying to
@BorisJohnson
Honest UK citizen here, I don't get it why many people hate Boris. I think he's one of the best prime ministers in the country right now. He needs time to do this. We should back him and trust the process. We can do this

I think our other prime ministers will spit out their tea and crumpets when they read the thoughts of esteemed commentator Big Lad Terrorist A
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zero Gravitas on June 17, 2022, 06:25:04 PM
Quote from: Uncle TechTip on June 17, 2022, 05:23:03 PMThe photo used to illustrate the Guardian blog shows Johnson holding a book with Tuesday 5th April on it, coincidentally four days before his last visit. No idea if that's the picture the government issued today. I reckon it's all bullshit and he's gone to one of his rich mates' yachts.

Yeah it's weird, perhaps not a lot has happened to Borris since then and he hasn't needed a new jotter.

But he also looks down at it just before the 'I think I was here in April' comment during the meeting, so perhaps that's just the only preparatory notes he needed, didn't even need to sully a page.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61842137

Where they also cut off just before he could be placing the jubilee in a temporal context.

Perhaps it's just a case of the fact of the meeting is for the shitbrained supporters, the weird notebook scrawl is for the shitbrained big-dog-haters.

(https://i.imgur.com/WmmW1D7.png)

Great run-down of all the times we've helped one anther in the replies though:

(https://i.imgur.com/LpLHagd.jpg)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 17, 2022, 07:15:53 PM
The HI-NRG lot don't seem impressed.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Norton Canes on June 17, 2022, 09:10:08 PM
Zelensky is the new fridge
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zero Gravitas on June 17, 2022, 09:25:16 PM
He's a bit stocky but that's cruel.

I think cadbury's-mini-egg-mug is more apt.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 17, 2022, 09:27:50 PM
Jane Merrick got what she wanted. political games for ever, and she gets to play at reporting it with the Oxbridge PPE betters
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Psybro on June 18, 2022, 07:55:36 AM
We can't sack Johnson because there's a war on.

But he can at least come to Doncaster instead of arsing about Ukraine, the wanker.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 18, 2022, 09:00:06 PM
QuoteYou might have thought it one of the scoops of the year – the allegation that when he was foreign secretary, Boris Johnson wanted to install his then-lover Carrie Symonds as his chief of staff on a salary of at least £100,000 a year, before senior colleagues made it clear that such a "flagrant abuse of ethics" would have been unacceptable.

Yet the story was turned down by one leading newspaper, then picked up and printed by another before disappearing altogether...

Johnson was in Kyiv when he heard that the story was about to break and quickly forgot all about his friend Volodymyr Zelensky's problems. He got his staff on the case and the story was dropped from later editions of today's Times and the story promptly disappeared, too, from MailOnline...


https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/boris-johnson-wanted-to-give-carrie-symonds-a-100000-downing-street-role/
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 18, 2022, 09:35:48 PM
imagine the absolute dumptruck of shit Marina Wheeler has on this cunt she could drop any time if she felt like it. would make Biff Tannen's misadventures look like mere dogdirt on the shoe
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Jittlebags on June 19, 2022, 10:23:18 PM
Funny that after the Times pulled the Carrie article, there's nothing about it any any of the other papers. Well, a small piece in the Guardian anyway.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 20, 2022, 10:52:42 AM
Interesting Led By Donkeys video on the Tories and the Victoria and Albert Museum

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: bakabaka on June 20, 2022, 12:47:00 PM
Is rebuilding a person's septum 'a minor routine operation'?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Blumf on June 20, 2022, 02:14:10 PM
Quote from: bakabaka on June 20, 2022, 12:47:00 PMIs rebuilding a person's septum 'a minor routine operation'?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61865032

(https://i.prcdn.co/img?regionKey=DYxynV0F8reZn3HMfLijhQ%3D%3D)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 20, 2022, 03:02:18 PM
QuoteA Downing Street spokesman said Deputy Prime Minister Dominic Raab would make any urgent decisions in his place.

They added that the PM's return to work would depend on how he was feeling.

I bet he's feeling he can't be arsed, the lazy fucker.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 20, 2022, 06:47:25 PM
QuoteDowning Street has confirmed that it spoke to a newspaper before it dropped a story involving the prime minister's wife, Carrie Johnson.

The Times printed a report on Saturday saying Mrs Johnson had been offered the role of chief-of-staff to Boris Johnson while he was foreign secretary, at a time when they were in a relationship.

But the item was removed from later editions and not published online.

No 10 said it had spoken to the Times before and after the story came out.

The prime minister's spokesman said it had been made clear by his political colleagues in Downing Street - and by Mrs Johnson's spokesperson - that the claim was "not true".

But a government source told the BBC the conversation following publication had not included mention of legal action...The journalist who wrote the Times story, Simon Walters, told the New European website that he stood by it "100%".

"I was in lengthy and detailed communication with No 10 at a high level, [Mr Johnson's press secretary] Ben Gascoigne and Mrs Johnson's spokeswoman for up to 48 hours before the [Times] went to press," he said.

"At no point did any of them offer an on-the-record denial of any element of the story."

"Nor have any of these three offered an on-the-record denial to me since," Mr Walters added. "No 10 and Mr Gascoigne did not deny it off-the-record [meaning to be reported but not directly attributed to an individual] either."
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Mr_Simnock on June 23, 2022, 07:00:45 PM
A follow up on this and how it negatively affecting their subscribers who now appear to be leaving (https://pressgazette.co.uk/times-carrie-subscribers/).
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Mr_Simnock on June 23, 2022, 07:06:49 PM
and also it looks like they are losing a lot of the 2019 GE vote support in the south west (https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2022/06/23/conservative-celtic-fringe-tories-trouble-leave-vo?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=website_article&utm_campaign=conservative_celtic_fringe)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Mr_Simnock on June 23, 2022, 08:20:28 PM
How on god's earth has marr come to this conclusion? (https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk-politics/2022/06/boris-johnson-will-use-the-strikes-to-mount-a-comeback-and-torment-the-labour-party)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: DrGreggles on June 23, 2022, 10:17:23 PM
Wakefield probably gone to Labour, but Tiverton and Honiton requires a biggest ever swing of 24,000+ to not stay blue - can see them hanging on.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 23, 2022, 10:19:16 PM
Could go either way, that one.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Bernice on June 23, 2022, 10:40:24 PM
Quote from: Mr_Simnock on June 23, 2022, 08:20:28 PMHow on god's earth has marr come to this conclusion? (https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk-politics/2022/06/boris-johnson-will-use-the-strikes-to-mount-a-comeback-and-torment-the-labour-party)

By being the clueless cunt he always has been. At least Preston wears his idiocy on his sleeves; Marr somehow carries with him the air of a savvy pundit.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Mobius on June 24, 2022, 04:51:10 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/24/tories-lose-byelections-wakefield-tiverton-honiton-labour-lib-dems

The Conservatives have lost two key byelections on the same night, with Labour taking Wakefield and the Liberal Democrats overturning a 24,000-plus majority to snatch Tiverton and Honiton, piling enormous political pressure on to Boris Johnson.

The Tiverton and Honiton result, where the Lib Dem candidate, Richard Foord, defeated the Tories' Helen Hurford by 6,144 votes to take a constituency that has been Conservative in its various forms for well over a century, will particularly spook Tory MPs.

It is believed to be the biggest numerical majority ever overturned in a byelection, although there have been higher percentage swings in other seats.


Oh dear!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 24, 2022, 05:00:28 AM
That's a good enough thumping to keep the pressure on Johnson.

He won't go, obviously because "Bah, mid-term dip, we've listened and moved on, piffle."

But it underlines how he is a vote loser these days, not a winner.

For Labour's sake though he has to stay.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 24, 2022, 05:52:55 AM
The Chairman of the Conservative Party, Oliver Dowden, has resigned in what appears to be an attempt to take the blame for the defeat

https://twitter.com/OliverDowden/status/1540191893258207232

EDIT: Looking at it again it is an attack on Johnson.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 24, 2022, 07:00:38 AM
Must be angry. He hasn't mentioned wokism of cultural Marxism.

How big is his majority?

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 24, 2022, 07:09:40 AM
Jayda Fransen got 23 votes.

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on June 24, 2022, 07:15:10 AM
Quote from: jobotic on June 24, 2022, 07:09:40 AMJayda Fransen got 23 votes.


A crumb of comfort for NIP.

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 24, 2022, 07:30:43 AM
Imagine how drunk Dorries is right now
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on June 24, 2022, 07:47:43 AM
Quote from: jobotic on June 24, 2022, 07:30:43 AMImagine how drunk Dorries is right now

68.9%
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 24, 2022, 07:58:35 AM
Quote from: jobotic on June 24, 2022, 07:00:38 AMMust be angry. He hasn't mentioned wokism of cultural Marxism.

How big is his majority?

Over 20,000 at the last election, but with Johnson still in Number 10 is there a truly safe Tory seat anymore?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: DrGreggles on June 24, 2022, 08:01:24 AM
Low turnout in both, down 20% and 25% respectively.
Makes the huge swings an even bigger kick in the Tory teeth.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Butchers Blind on June 24, 2022, 08:02:29 AM
Even Tories can't be bothered to vote Tory.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 24, 2022, 08:04:51 AM
They will in a General Election. Ah see.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 24, 2022, 08:08:24 AM
Depends if Johnson is still party leader.

I think the Tories are finally waking up to the fact that he will never go if he has any say in the matter and that they will lose the next election with him.

Expect to see the 1922 rules changed in the next few weeks and another punt at Johnson before the conference season.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: DrGreggles on June 24, 2022, 08:16:02 AM
Johnson is out as soon as his successor is chosen.
Expect a name to be pushed by the Tory rags over the next couple of weeks.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 24, 2022, 08:57:05 AM
Wonder how the privet hedges of freedom are today.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FV_0IPcXEAI_lBu?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 24, 2022, 09:11:51 AM
Quote from: DrGreggles on June 24, 2022, 08:16:02 AMJohnson is out as soon as his successor is chosen.
Expect a name to be pushed by the Tory rags over the next couple of weeks.

Who though? It's the question that has saved Johnson's skin over the last year. Who can credibly be the next Prime Minister?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: DrGreggles on June 24, 2022, 09:14:13 AM
Quote from: Alberon on June 24, 2022, 09:11:51 AMWho though? It's the question that has saved Johnson's skin over the last year. Who can credibly be the next Prime Minister?

Because credibility was so important last time...
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Inspector Norse on June 24, 2022, 09:49:35 AM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 24, 2022, 08:57:05 AMWonder how the privet hedges of freedom are today.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FV_0IPcXEAI_lBu?format=jpg&name=small)

Nice of him to straighten his tie for the camera.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 24, 2022, 09:51:10 AM
Quote from: DrGreggles on June 24, 2022, 09:14:13 AMBecause credibility was so important last time...

I'd argue the 2019 election was unusual in that had Brexit not played a factor with non-Tory Brexiteers voting for Johnson to "get Brexit done", I doubt Johnson would have got such a big majority. He would probably still have won if he had been leader in 2019 given the attitudes of the press but without Brexit would he even have become leader?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on June 24, 2022, 09:56:20 AM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 24, 2022, 08:57:05 AMWonder how the privet hedges of freedom are today.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FV_0IPcXEAI_lBu?format=jpg&name=small)

Ok who typed "The banality of evil" into the AI image generator?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: bgmnts on June 24, 2022, 10:29:46 AM
Have to imagine losing Tiverton was the death knell for cunt Boris.

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on June 24, 2022, 10:34:15 AM
That tie represents a neat swing to the left.  Well, his left which might not mean anything.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: poodlefaker on June 24, 2022, 10:46:52 AM
Oh Bunter's gone! Clean bowled! It's the long walk back to the pavillion for you old sausage!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JamesTC on June 24, 2022, 10:52:34 AM
Feel bad for Boris. He works really hard and the electorate are really mean to him. Perhaps we can raise some money for him.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on June 24, 2022, 10:58:28 AM
He'd only spend it on Russian yachts and cocaine.

Bung Boris a Bob for Bomba Blow
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Butchers Blind on June 24, 2022, 10:59:04 AM
Time for another quick trip to Ukraine.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 24, 2022, 11:06:23 AM
Spare a thought for the Tory candidate in Tiverton and Honiton. She spent most of the campaign avoiding the media, and when they did corner her she did her best to avoid mentioning Johnson.

And then last night she locked herself in a room for half an hour before the announcement and then managed to trip heading up onto the stage to hear her defeat.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 24, 2022, 11:19:22 AM
Boris Johnson will teach Titervon and Hornitown a lesson for being so unpatriotic at a time of national crisis. theres a war in Ukraine, we're fighting the union barons, and they're voting for the liberal democrats? Unbelievable.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 24, 2022, 11:47:01 AM
Another Lib Dem win another shitty Lib Dem photo-op.

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2022/6/24/dd37d028-b664-49ee-9085-90df9f3bb393.jpg)

If they keep this fuckery going I might be less inclined to vote for them come the General Election.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 24, 2022, 11:48:13 AM
that's a door?!?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: EOLAN on June 24, 2022, 11:51:43 AM
Quote from: Alberon on June 24, 2022, 11:47:01 AMAnother Lib Dem win another shitty Lib Dem photo-op.

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2022/6/24/dd37d028-b664-49ee-9085-90df9f3bb393.jpg)

If they keep this fuckery going I might be less inclined to vote for them come the General Election.

Looks like they showing him the door to allow him in rather than to get him out.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on June 24, 2022, 12:00:16 PM
Quote from: Alberon on June 24, 2022, 11:47:01 AMAnother Lib Dem win another shitty Lib Dem photo-op.

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2022/6/24/dd37d028-b664-49ee-9085-90df9f3bb393.jpg)

If they keep this fuckery going I might be less inclined to vote for them come the General Election.

Are they Tories or are the Lib Dems wearing blue ties as code.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 24, 2022, 12:52:16 PM
The way they call him "Boris" on the door like he is their mate.

Davy didn't seem to mind Tories so much in 2010-2015. No doubt when the Tories bring in a Rory Stewart type for the 2024 election he'll be keen to go into coalition with them and support the selling off of the NHS in return for a 5p of tax on plastic bottles.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 24, 2022, 01:05:16 PM
Another Tory MP under investigation:

QuoteSuspended Tory MP David Warburton faces a fresh probe from Parliament's sleaze watchdog.

The Somerset and Frome MP was already under investigation by the harassment watchdog following complaints from two women about inappropriate behaviour.

And it comes after an image emerged showing the MP for Somerset and Frome sitting next to an upturned baking tray with four lines of powder on it – alleged by the Sunday Times to be cocaine.

Today, the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards said they had launched an investigation into possible breaches of Commons lobbying rules and the register of interests.

The watchdog's website says the investigation is into "paid advocacy", "declaration of an interest" and "Registration of an interest under Category 3 of the Guide to the Rules [Gifts, benefits and hospitality from UK sources]".

Separately, it emerged in April that Mr Warburton faced allegations that he also climbed naked into a woman's bed and groped her breasts – after snorting cocaine.

Party bosses withdrew the whip from married David Warburton while he is under investigation by Parliament's harassment watchdog.

When the allegations emerged in April, former music teacher Mr Warburton, who is married with two young children, denied any wrongdoing, telling the Telegraph: "I have enormous amounts of defence, but unfortunately the way that things work means that doesn't come out first.

"I have heard nothing what-soever from the Independent Complaints and Grievance Scheme.

"I'm sorry, I can't comment any further."...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/suspended-tory-mp-david-warburton-27301205
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Blumf on June 24, 2022, 01:21:33 PM
Quote from: Alberon on June 24, 2022, 11:47:01 AMAnother Lib Dem win another shitty Lib Dem photo-op.

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2022/6/24/dd37d028-b664-49ee-9085-90df9f3bb393.jpg)

If they keep this fuckery going I might be less inclined to vote for them come the General Election.

The door looks very electable, not sure about the two planks next to it.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 24, 2022, 01:24:21 PM
Apparently Johnson heard about Dowden's resignation while "taking his morning swim" in Rwanda.

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on June 24, 2022, 01:28:05 PM
Quote from: Alberon on June 24, 2022, 11:47:01 AMAnother Lib Dem win another shitty Lib Dem photo-op.

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2022/6/24/dd37d028-b664-49ee-9085-90df9f3bb393.jpg)

"Hmm, Comic Sans isn't quite twatty enough. Oh yep, that's perfect."
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: pigamus on June 24, 2022, 01:32:41 PM
Quote from: Alberon on June 24, 2022, 11:47:01 AMAnother Lib Dem win another shitty Lib Dem photo-op.

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2022/6/24/dd37d028-b664-49ee-9085-90df9f3bb393.jpg)

If they keep this fuckery going I might be less inclined to vote for them come the General Election.

Emma Kennedy can only achieve orgasm by looking at this photograph
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: kittens on June 24, 2022, 01:36:01 PM
they have quite literally shown boris bojo johnson the door!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: kittens on June 24, 2022, 01:39:16 PM
mr prime minister, how do you respond to rumours that two men stood grinning in front of some signs and quite literally showed you the door?

"for quite literally the first time in my life i am quite literally speechless after being quite literally shown the door by two men stood grinning in front of some signs"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 24, 2022, 01:39:42 PM
They could have got a pair of curtains and written "It's curtains for Boris!"

Or one of them could have dressed up as a massive vulva and the other as a giant cock with "It's time to get this cunt fucked!" written on the shaft
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: kittens on June 24, 2022, 01:43:10 PM
BREAKING: getting reports that two liberal democrat men stood grinning in front of a lot of signs and took the time out of their day to quite literally show the prime minister, boris johnson, the door. the prime minister is reported to have just stood there and been like 'oh my god' for a bit before then going 'for the first time in my life i am quite literally speechless'
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: kittens on June 24, 2022, 01:45:40 PM
a grinning liberal democrat holding a sleeping cat, saying "it's cats out for boris!"

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on June 24, 2022, 01:46:44 PM
Sorry only just woke up, whats all this about a door?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 24, 2022, 01:46:57 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 24, 2022, 01:05:16 PMAnother Tory MP under investigation:

QuoteSuspended Tory MP David Warburton faces a fresh probe from Parliament's sleaze watchdog.

19,213 majority over the Lib Dems in second place at the last election. The Tories will be desperate to avoid another by-election.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: kittens on June 24, 2022, 01:47:51 PM
wheeling an enormous plastic fruit salad onto the stage and saying "sorry mr Johnson, it's time to admit you are wet fruit"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 24, 2022, 01:48:40 PM
A gurning Lib Dem holding up pints of bitter "It's last orders for Boris!"
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Post by: kittens on June 24, 2022, 01:49:14 PM
he's a sixpence shovel digging a ten-bob hole!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: kittens on June 24, 2022, 01:50:42 PM
ed davey dressed as a Gestapo saying "for you Boris, ze war is over"
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Post by: Alberon on June 24, 2022, 01:50:57 PM
Ed Davey and A. N. Other Lib Dem painfully re-enacting the Dead Parrot sketch thuddingly rewritten with Boris references.
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Post by: Cold Meat Platter on June 24, 2022, 01:51:02 PM
BUNTER
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 24, 2022, 01:54:52 PM
Michael Howard has called for Johnson to resign.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: kittens on June 24, 2022, 02:01:37 PM
enormous foam michael howard wheeled onstage by ed davey
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Pink Gregory on June 24, 2022, 02:04:35 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 24, 2022, 01:54:52 PMMichael Howard has called for Johnson to resign.

I am old enough to say - lol
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Post by: poodlefaker on June 24, 2022, 02:14:10 PM
There's the door Bunter, hope it doesn't hit you on the botty on the way out!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Butchers Blind on June 24, 2022, 02:37:48 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 24, 2022, 01:54:52 PMMichael Howard has called for Johnson to resign.

Can't hear him, too busy in Rwanda sorting out those pesky refugees.
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Post by: monkfromhavana on June 24, 2022, 02:49:27 PM
Quote from: Alberon on June 24, 2022, 01:48:40 PMA gurning Lib Dem holding up pints of bitter "It's last orders for Boris!"

With a big sign above their head saying "The Last Chance Saloon".
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Post by: JamesTC on June 24, 2022, 02:51:02 PM
Two men, believed to be Lib Dem politicians, seen carrying an oversized wholemeal loaf in the shape of Boris Johnson in the Tiverton and Honiton area.
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 24, 2022, 02:53:13 PM
Ed Davy dressed as Boris Johnson, falling through a bar with a banner with "Political Dignity" above it.

And a Lib Dem stand nearby and makes a face.
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 24, 2022, 02:54:31 PM
I thought Ed Davey came across quite well early today






.....for a reanimated potato.
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Post by: frajer on June 24, 2022, 02:58:47 PM
"Boris these are your marching orders, I have given them to you.

Boris, these are your marching orders, I have given them to you!

 He's not taking them... he's not taken them... he's gone. What am I meant to do with an eight-foot high set of marching orders?"
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Post by: kittens on June 24, 2022, 03:00:04 PM
boris johnson thinks he is playing monopoly, or chess, and holding all the cards, or the pieces as it were, but on the face of the matter it is plain as day that the right honourable gentleman is two cheeses short of a wheel, by which i refer of course to the famous Hasbro board game mouse trap, obeying standard rules, and he's in the little zone, right, at the end of it, where, when the contraption has been completed through play, the cage kind of descends down the rickety pole and sort of traps him, denoting that he has lost it, the vote, represented here by the game mouse trap. game over.

ed davey triggers a plastic cage to slowly descend onto an enormous blonde mouse labelled "boris"
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 24, 2022, 03:00:54 PM
boris johnson!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on June 24, 2022, 03:04:57 PM
Spoiler alert
bunter
[close]
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: elliszeroed on June 24, 2022, 03:12:31 PM
Boris Johnnson regenerates into Chuka Ummana.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: kittens on June 24, 2022, 03:13:34 PM
boris johnson seems to think he is bronco henry. well, let me tell you, the prime minister did not think he'd have to contend with the power of this dog!

blanket is pulled back to reveal an enormous foam jane campion 
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 24, 2022, 03:23:15 PM
The Prime Minister seems to feel that he can hold this great country as hostage and treat the public with distain! That is why I call on MPs of all sides to come together and take strength from this poem I've written...

Oh! Prime Minster, you gave a good show!
But now we think, it is time, for you, to go
Please don't be slow, Prime Minster
Don't stub your toe, Prime Minister
You fill us with woe, Prime Minister
Prime Minister, please go
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Post by: Captain Z on June 24, 2022, 03:28:37 PM
The writing's on the door
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Blumf on June 24, 2022, 03:37:42 PM
Quote from: kittens on June 24, 2022, 01:47:51 PMwheeling an enormous plastic fruit salad onto the stage and saying "sorry mr Johnson, it's time to admit you are wet fruit"

Putting a bit of wool and some googly eyes on an apricot seed whilst shouting "Boris is the pits!"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 24, 2022, 03:41:40 PM
Standing in front of the media before turning round, pulling down your trousers and underpants to reveal your arse with an eye drawn on each buttcreek, doing a poo while squeezing your buttocks to "make them talk", shouting, "I'm Boris and I'm full of shit", all the centerists clap and say how brave you are as you are led away.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 24, 2022, 03:45:46 PM
Dressed as Boris Johnson you stick your dick in a dog turd and yell "Boris Johnson is fucking shit!!" and LedByDonkeys record it and project it onto Buckingham Palace
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on June 24, 2022, 04:18:15 PM
Has anyone done a kerplunk or hungry hungry hippos one yet?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on June 24, 2022, 04:19:05 PM
No wait; JENGA!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on June 24, 2022, 04:26:02 PM
Boris it is you who is the Weakest Link goodbye!!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: imitationleather on June 24, 2022, 04:26:35 PM
Whomever smelt it dealt it, Boris!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on June 24, 2022, 04:28:15 PM
Quote from: frajer on June 24, 2022, 04:26:02 PMBoris it is you who is the Weakest Link goodbye!!

Shit, that's better than mine.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on June 24, 2022, 04:29:04 PM
Could do something about Billy Bunter? Like "you are going to detention now Billy Bunter!!"

I don't know anything about Billy bunter.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on June 24, 2022, 04:33:06 PM
Quote from: Ferris on June 24, 2022, 04:28:15 PMShit, that's better than mine.

Heh! If it helps it's a shameless steal from the underrated Psychoville where Steve Pemberton solemnly laments "He always was the weakest link goodbye" without any pause for punctuation. It pops into my head a lot.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on June 24, 2022, 04:36:19 PM
It's too late, I've already given up on the Boris mirth-making. The billy bunter material was a last desperate throw of the dice.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 24, 2022, 04:42:13 PM
he's departed downing street and joined the invisible bullingdon club

this is an ex prime minister!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Blumf on June 24, 2022, 04:51:56 PM
anelectorialliabilitycalledborissayswhat!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on June 24, 2022, 05:03:29 PM
Quote from: kittens on June 24, 2022, 01:39:16 PMmr prime minister, how do you respond to rumours that two men stood grinning in front of some signs and quite literally showed you the door?

"for quite literally the first time in my life i am quite literally speechless after being quite literally shown the door by two men stood grinning in front of some signs"

"The door had written on it that someone needed to show it to me, even though they already were."
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on June 24, 2022, 05:05:12 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on June 24, 2022, 01:39:42 PMThey could have got a pair of curtains and written "It's curtains for Boris!"

Or one of them could have dressed up as a massive vulva and the other as a giant cock with "It's time to get this cunt fucked!" written on the shaft

Or dressed up as Wilma Flintstone with big cartoon hands clutching her grotesque balloon breasts, below a sign saying "I FEEL LIKE A WOMAN"

and behind the door, somebody cos-playing as David Tennant holding up a sign with "YOU JUST SAID IT"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on June 24, 2022, 05:11:06 PM
Quote from: Ferris on June 24, 2022, 04:19:05 PMNo wait; JENGA!

Too soon after 9/11
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 24, 2022, 05:15:06 PM
Boris Johnson... COME ON DOWN!!!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 24, 2022, 05:17:45 PM
"i don't believe it!" - michael howard noticing that Boris Johnson is still leader of the conservative party
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Butchers Blind on June 24, 2022, 05:20:11 PM
In his car, driving down the motorway, but it is finished being built. Looks like you've come to the end of the road, Boris.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on June 24, 2022, 05:21:02 PM
Boris Johnson? More like Bore-piss Gone-soon!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 24, 2022, 05:21:41 PM
according to the Guardian, Boris Johnson (prime minister of England) crashed into a carpenters van and a whole lot of varnish and wax fell on him. He's well and truly finished!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JamesTC on June 24, 2022, 05:43:54 PM
No Prime Minister has had to face the problems he has since World War 11!!!1!!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Cerys on June 24, 2022, 06:03:09 PM
Has he burst yet?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on June 24, 2022, 06:11:19 PM
A giant inflatable boris johnson holding an empty jar of thyme in one hand and a recipe that specifically requires thyme in the other hand, and a caption that says boris johnson you have run out of "thyme"!!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on June 24, 2022, 06:17:38 PM
I was watching an episode of Scrapheap Challenge, must have been a brand new one, and guess who was in the background? That's right your friend and mine Bojoris Johnson, literally on the scrapheap.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on June 24, 2022, 06:33:08 PM
Stick a fork in him, he's a cunt!
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Post by: Proactive on June 24, 2022, 07:06:41 PM
Ed Daveys dressed up as Hans Molman. "I *wasn't* saying 'Boo-ris' , and neither, it seems, were the good people of Tiverton. I say you've done your last elaborate couch gag, Prime Minister. No more Cowabunga-bunga lockdown parties, if you will. D'OH!"
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Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 24, 2022, 07:23:31 PM
Welease Wohnson
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 24, 2022, 07:26:57 PM
QuoteBoris Johnson's attempt to unseat a Labour peer from the role of the Commonwealth secretary general has failed, in another blow to his credibility.

No 10 had been working behind the scenes for nearly two years to remove Patricia Scotland, claiming that she had failed to modernise the institution after nearly six years in the job.

A meeting deciding whether to replace Lady Scotland with Jamaica's foreign minister, Kamina Johnson Smith, who was supported by the UK government, ran over by several hours as leaders struggled to reach a verdict.

But after several hours, it was confirmed that Johnson Smith had lost and Scotland was reappointed for two more years. The next election will be in 2024...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/24/boris-johnson-fails-to-oust-lady-scotland-from-commonwealth-role
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: kalowski on June 24, 2022, 07:37:06 PM
Quote from: kittens on June 24, 2022, 02:01:37 PMenormous foam michael howard wheeled onstage by ed davey
(https://i.ibb.co/Z1pSNRD/dallemini-2022-6-24-19-36-29.png)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Proactive on June 24, 2022, 07:50:19 PM
Ed Daveys dressed up as Begbie throws a pint over a ledge. "Boris has been glassed, and nobody leaves till we find the cunt what did it. Only joking it was me Ed Daveys all along! Seriously though, I say the honourable gentleman is a dead baby on a ceiling that turns its head all around, but then actually turns back round again in disgust when he sees this election result. You've truly had your last smack high prime minister, by which on fact I mean election success like a metaphor"

Crowd goes absolutely mental.
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Post by: Proactive on June 24, 2022, 07:54:26 PM
Do you like apples, Prime Minister? Well how do you like THEM apples? *Hands boris a big bag of apples with "Bad election results" written on it*

Dressed up like Matt Damon.

The crowd is less enthralled with each passing brilliant joke Ed Daveys has made but it won't stop me him.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 24, 2022, 08:00:18 PM
boris
boris johnson
his popularity was a mystery

after
losing some
bi elections
he'll face the wraith of his MPs
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 24, 2022, 08:36:09 PM
Ed Davey in full cenobite fetish outfit. "I have such sights to show you, Boris."

Anonymous Lib Dem. "I don't get it."

"No, trust me. It's great! Where did I put the nipple clamps?"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JamesTC on June 24, 2022, 11:40:22 PM
What a clown that Boris is. YOU CLOWN BORIS!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on June 24, 2022, 11:42:25 PM
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/0BFE/production/_125607030_f7e982e6-738e-4a79-9d60-d2b3a49a2887.jpg)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A26DVH7CUAA3Nqu.jpg:large)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 25, 2022, 10:20:41 AM
Preview of where this is going next:

https://twitter.com/haggis_uk/status/1540334029257465856?s=21&t=Z66x3fEI_K5NSVZFFntF6w

Just sowing the seeds for declaring the next election illegitimate if they lose.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 25, 2022, 12:47:17 PM
The Brexit party didnt stand against conservative incumbents in leave voting seats in 2019

God she is thick. Not that she believes it's true, but that she can so openly lie and not feel bad about it.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Uncle TechTip on June 25, 2022, 01:10:34 PM
How can the Attorney General adopt such a political position anyway.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 25, 2022, 01:25:27 PM
The Mirror reports:

QuoteBoris Johnson planned to build a £150,000 treehouse for his son Wilf at Chequers, it has been reported.

The prime minister and his wife Carrie wanted to build the treehouse during autumn 2020 but had to pull the plug after it raised security concerns.

The treehouse's design included bulletproof glass but could be seen by the roadside, prompting police to warn the PM about the risks involved.

There were discussions about having Lord Brownlow, a Tory donor ranked the 521st richest person in the UK last year, fund the project, with plans for the treehouse drawn up for the country retreat, it has been reported...

What a man of the people.

Also, given Johnson does not own Chequers and it is a "grace and favour" home, what right does he have to try to have a £150,000 treehouse built?
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Post by: JamesTC on June 25, 2022, 01:28:02 PM
His son's treehouse would cost twice as much as my three-bedroom house.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sherman Krank on June 25, 2022, 01:29:40 PM
Quote from: Fatso McSpaffer"I have to distinguish between criticism that really matters and criticism that doesn't."

People whose criticism really matters
Cabinet ministers who can oust him by resigning en masse.
Anyone who pays his bills or gives him free money on at least a semi-regular basis.

People whose criticism doesn't matter
Literally everyone else.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 25, 2022, 01:31:23 PM
jesus christ, want to do "last straw for old Boris!!" but that is really bad. and its clearly so he can imprison his son in a bullet-proof glass bubble at the end of the garden because he doesn't like him.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on June 25, 2022, 01:42:46 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 25, 2022, 01:25:27 PMThe Mirror reports:

What a man of the people.

Also, given Johnson does not own Chequers and it is a "grace and favour" home, what right does he have to try to have a £150,000 treehouse built?

The more time I spend around people who have held organizational power for a significant amount of time, the more I realize they've just gone slightly mad. No one has ever said no, and for small-p political reasons no one will, so it's open-season and do what you like.

It's why politicians do stupid shit like spend 100 grand on in-flight catering for their staff, or organize "fact-finding trips" to the Bahamas, or accept a trip on the Aga Khan's private helicopter to an island resort, spend £150k of taxpayer dosh on a child's treehouse in a home they don't own. They're so used to doing what they want, they lack the public-perception framework to see how bonkers their actions are.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JamesTC on June 25, 2022, 01:50:45 PM
Yet we really don't have the money to keep the extra £20 on Universal Credit. They know the value of money when they are taking it away.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on June 25, 2022, 02:39:56 PM
WON'T ANYBODY THINK OF THE MAGIC MONEY TREE!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!?!!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on June 25, 2022, 02:59:50 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/BnQnvmi.png?1)

What a bizarre thing to have on a news website.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 25, 2022, 03:07:02 PM
HE WILL NOT PRETEND THE BY-ELECTION RESULTS ARE GOOD


He won't, he simply can't, he's thought about it and said NO! I WILL NOT! pretend they are good results, here is a man that will not indulge in the idea that the by-election results, one of which was the biggest numerical swing against his party ever, was good.  He will tell it like it is, not pretend like it isn't.

So brave.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sherman Krank on June 25, 2022, 05:10:07 PM
Quote from: Cold Meat Platter on June 25, 2022, 02:59:50 PM(https://i.imgur.com/BnQnvmi.png?1)

He is however expected to eventually complete his physiological transformation into a Honey Monster.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: checkoutgirl on June 25, 2022, 05:37:35 PM
Quote from: Ferris on June 25, 2022, 01:42:46 PMThey're so used to doing what they want

They're basically bred to be sociopaths and some of them are many generations down that process. If you add in a natural sociopathy like Boris has it's quite a mix. Boris reminds me of a quote by someone about Malcolm Hardee "To say he has no shame is to drastically exaggerate the amount of shame he has."

He's the type to knee you in the bollocks and just stand there beside you as if nothing happened. A resignation seems unlikely but would be interesting to see.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 25, 2022, 05:42:01 PM
If he did resign he would no doubt be as bitter about it as possible and blame literally everyone else including the general public.

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Norton Canes on June 25, 2022, 06:03:56 PM
QuoteAsked if there was any matter of principle he would consider resigning over, he said if he had to abandon Ukraine because it became too difficult or the costs were too great, he would quit

An exit strategy. Promising
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: GoblinAhFuckScary on June 25, 2022, 06:43:50 PM
Quote from: Cold Meat Platter on June 25, 2022, 02:59:50 PM(https://i.imgur.com/BnQnvmi.png?1)

What a bizarre thing to have on a news website.

Brass Eye world.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: superthunderstingcar on June 25, 2022, 06:55:33 PM
Given he never tells the truth about anything, I have to assume he's in the middle of a psychological transformation right now.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: GoblinAhFuckScary on June 25, 2022, 06:57:56 PM
Johnson entering "new phase of reign" during which it will not be seen much in public for some time.
Title: What strange magick is this?
Post by: Buelligan on June 25, 2022, 07:00:53 PM
Quote from: Cold Meat Platter on June 25, 2022, 02:59:50 PM(https://i.imgur.com/BnQnvmi.png?1)

What a bizarre thing to have on a news website.

Absolutely agree.  I've gone so far as to slyly click on the BBC website several times today, just for the adrenaline rush that its strangeness triggers.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JamesTC on June 25, 2022, 07:16:48 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/g5kB85R.png)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 25, 2022, 07:24:47 PM
PM: I will not get struck by lightning at the same time as my teenage son, swapping our minds into each others bodies, and have to attend high school in his place resulting in naughty but PG hijinx
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Lordofthefiles on June 25, 2022, 07:40:52 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 25, 2022, 01:25:27 PMThe Mirror reports:

What a man of the people.

Also, given Johnson does not own Chequers and it is a "grace and favour" home, what right does he have to try to have a £150,000 treehouse built?


It's like they ("the partnership") think they've achieved Royalty status.

A vibe of permanence akin to the Nazi officer class in their heyday.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on June 25, 2022, 08:25:28 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on June 25, 2022, 07:16:48 PM(https://i.imgur.com/g5kB85R.png)

Arrggghhhhhhhhhhh!  Wow!  Those poor synapses!  Fucking lovely, that.

He's obviously an axolotl.  A rather fat one.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Butchers Blind on June 25, 2022, 08:44:21 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on June 25, 2022, 07:16:48 PM(https://i.imgur.com/g5kB85R.png)

We know he's a liar so he will or has undergone physiological transformation.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on June 25, 2022, 08:45:47 PM
Yeah.  He's a fucking fat axolotl, man.  Do you not listen?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Crenners on June 25, 2022, 08:47:55 PM
Saturday night yeah I like the way you move pretty baby its party time and not one minute we can lose pretty baby
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: poodlefaker on June 25, 2022, 09:31:38 PM
Guys, guys, remember when Jamie Oliver made an Eton mess and held it up, quite near to Downing Street? That was BRUTAL. Fair play to Bunter: if he can survive that, he can survive anything. He's golden.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: kittens on June 25, 2022, 10:49:05 PM
Bor(is)ing Johnson
Imagine
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: kittens on June 25, 2022, 10:50:01 PM
boring johnson
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 25, 2022, 10:53:38 PM
boris johnsunset
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on June 25, 2022, 11:03:33 PM
Did you know that 'Boris' isn't actually his name? None of his family or friends call him that. Know what they call him?

Spoiler alert
BUNTER
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Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on June 25, 2022, 11:08:13 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/VUoq1AE.png?1)

A completely normal news organ for completely normal people on normal island.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: poodlefaker on June 25, 2022, 11:08:44 PM
He's Billy Banter. The Archbishop of Banterbury. St Banterny of Padua.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 25, 2022, 11:30:17 PM
"actively thinking"

lol like numbskulls in the Beano, i bet they all look like Bunter
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on June 25, 2022, 11:36:09 PM
Quote from: kittens on June 25, 2022, 10:49:05 PMBor(is)ing Johnson
Imagine

Alan Yentob's let himself go.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: bgmnts on June 25, 2022, 11:49:22 PM
Not even joking but in that picture he looks like an orangutan, silently ruminating about what to do today; eat, fuck or kill.

But somehow looks even more empty of thought. There's the glint in the eye of a rangu, walking along the edge of cognition. Boris just looks like a corpse waiting to happen.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 26, 2022, 08:48:35 AM
Quite interesting that old gouty fingers is in the news today about receiving bags of cash from Qatar.  There is nothing much in there (at this stage) just the fact cash was used "in carry bags".

Just thinking about his recent criticism of the government and the general tactics of Johnson.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Jack Shaftoe on June 26, 2022, 09:18:41 AM
I do worry he's soaking up so much ill-will, the second he's gone all the wobblers will happily vote Tory again. Although the cost of living stuff might put a stop to that for a bit.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 26, 2022, 09:22:45 AM
Quote from: Jack Shaftoe on June 26, 2022, 09:18:41 AMI do worry he's soaking up so much ill-will, the second he's gone all the wobblers will happily vote Tory again. Although the cost of living stuff might put a stop to that for a bit.

Yes very likely.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 26, 2022, 09:42:18 AM
Quote from: Jack Shaftoe on June 26, 2022, 09:18:41 AMI do worry he's soaking up so much ill-will, the second he's gone all the wobblers will happily vote Tory again. Although the cost of living stuff might put a stop to that for a bit.

Hopefully Novara etc will remind the wobblers about how the remaining Tories used to defend Johnson. I think a lot of Tory MPs and ministers will try and pretend they never supported Johnson once he goes.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on June 26, 2022, 09:53:37 AM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 26, 2022, 09:42:18 AMHopefully Novara etc will remind the wobblers about how the remaining Tories used to defend Johnson. I think a lot of Tory MPs and ministers will try and pretend they never supported Johnson once he goes.

Tory voters don't generally watch novara
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on June 26, 2022, 11:10:45 AM
Quote from: Jack Shaftoe on June 26, 2022, 09:18:41 AMI do worry he's soaking up so much ill-will, the second he's gone all the wobblers will happily vote Tory again. Although the cost of living stuff might put a stop to that for a bit.

I think there needs to be a conversation about enablers on both sides of the aisle.  Johnson has waved the sticky finger of corruption in our faces, now we need to publicly examine everyone's hands.  We don't need a sin-eater to take the stank off of the whole rotten gang.  Tory, Labour, all of 'em, they all need nit-combing.

Ask simple questions like why are these dodgy cunts allowed to work for outside interestsWhy, if the price of that is enabling the wholesale corruption of our lives.  And it always, always, is.  Are we fucking mad?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 26, 2022, 12:20:30 PM
Botis Jongsons
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: kittens on June 26, 2022, 12:26:14 PM
Bongis Bonson
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 26, 2022, 12:30:37 PM
Bolly Blunter
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Pink Gregory on June 26, 2022, 12:36:14 PM
Bongy Jongleurs
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JamesTC on June 26, 2022, 12:49:38 PM
Bongus Jongus
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Cuellar on June 26, 2022, 01:05:24 PM
Blowris Jobson
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Jittlebags on June 26, 2022, 01:21:51 PM
Beelzebub Ginseng
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on June 26, 2022, 05:36:19 PM
Bojack Horseman
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on June 26, 2022, 05:43:52 PM
Bollix Willy.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on June 26, 2022, 05:45:28 PM
Quote from: Sherman Krank on June 25, 2022, 05:10:07 PMHe is however expected to eventually complete his physiological transformation into a Honey Monster.

I always saw him as a Weetabix in a suit.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on June 26, 2022, 05:46:56 PM
QuoteAsked if there was any matter of principle he would consider resigning over, he said if he had to abandon Ukraine because it became too difficult or the costs were too great, he would quit

That's the kind of friend you need, innit.  "Sorry, too difficult now; byeee"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on June 26, 2022, 05:48:06 PM
Quote from: Replies From View on June 26, 2022, 05:45:28 PMI always saw him as a Weetabix in a suit.

Yep.  Didn't want to say but it really upset me when the
Spoiler alert
Honey Monster
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comparison was raised.  Weetabix people are shit though.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 26, 2022, 05:59:33 PM
Damp shredded wheat with a pube on it
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on June 26, 2022, 08:43:37 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 26, 2022, 09:42:18 AMHopefully Novara etc will remind the wobblers about how the remaining Tories used to defend Johnson. I think a lot of Tory MPs and ministers will try and pretend they never supported Johnson once he goes.

Do the wobblers engage with things like Novara?  Everyone I've spoken to outside our echo chamber - and I'm talking about people who think they are left of the political centre - thinks Novara is a bunch of naive lefty students who wrongly supported Corbyn in the football match.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on June 26, 2022, 08:46:04 PM
Quote from: Cold Meat Platter on June 25, 2022, 11:08:13 PM(https://i.imgur.com/VUoq1AE.png?1)

A completely normal news organ for completely normal people on normal island.

That is such a great photo for active thinking.

How many terms has he already done?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 26, 2022, 08:47:19 PM
Yes, you and Martin are right, I withdraw the comment. I don't know who will stop the Tories rewriting history once Johnson goes, I suppose anyone who knows a wobbly needs to remind then.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 26, 2022, 08:57:57 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 26, 2022, 08:47:19 PMYes, you and Martin are right, I withdraw the comment. I don't know who will stop the Tories rewriting history once Johnson goes, I suppose anyone who knows a wobbly needs to remind then.

They will just want someone one stable, "competent" but not radical.  Still the case that a lot of people are comfortablish but I reckon it is starting to dawn on these folk that things could get a lot worse.  This is where Starmers game could actually work, these people will vote Lib Dem and Starmer just needs to be dull enough to squeak through as the meh candidate.

I've got a fiver on Penny Mordaunt, she will give them good copy if he goes and will win back lots of votes (largely because she has kept herself uncontaminated).
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on June 26, 2022, 08:59:35 PM
Penny Mordaunt sounds like the baddie in a harry potter book.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on June 26, 2022, 09:01:35 PM
I'd love it if there was one character in Lord of the Rings who always said "Mordaunt", and nobody ever corrected them.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 26, 2022, 09:07:29 PM
PENNY-MOR!(daunt)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on June 26, 2022, 09:09:45 PM
I'd prefer it if Sir Ian McKellen kicked them really hard up the arse.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JamesTC on June 26, 2022, 09:10:43 PM
Sounds like some olden timey thing.

"Back in my day we used the penny mordaunt"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on June 26, 2022, 09:32:29 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on June 26, 2022, 09:10:43 PMSounds like some olden timey thing.

"Back in my day we used the penny mordaunt"

Sounds like a kind of gateaux to me.  One that has coins inserted into it like a Christmas pudding.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on June 26, 2022, 11:35:54 PM
This was put up 2 weeks ago by Led By Donkeys; not sure if it has appeared in this thread yet.  Nothing new in it but interesting to see it all in one place.  I'm surprised it didn't get more coverage:

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 27, 2022, 11:01:16 AM
Incredible graphs in The Times.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWP0ZmkWAAAt4Lg?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 27, 2022, 11:06:12 AM
The poll graphic also contradicts the information in the grey box above it. 60% of Tory voters want Johnson to resign, not 36%.

HOC to vote on breaching international law today.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Paul Calf on June 27, 2022, 11:23:08 AM
Quote from: frajer on June 24, 2022, 10:58:28 AMHe'd only spend it on Russian yachts and cocaine.

Bung Boris a Bob for Bomba Blow

Bunga Bob for Bunga Bunga
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 27, 2022, 11:46:07 AM
Remember the hairdresser who made a portrait of Boris Johnson out of clients' hair? Wonder if she is still a fan on him.

Kier Starmar probably hopes she will make a portrait of him out of people's hair.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 27, 2022, 11:47:48 AM
Only if she trims pubes
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on June 27, 2022, 12:12:11 PM
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on June 27, 2022, 11:01:16 AMIncredible graphs in The Times.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWP0ZmkWAAAt4Lg?format=jpg&name=large)

Fair play that's impressively dodgy.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 27, 2022, 12:22:20 PM
I think its an error tbh. Editorially the times would love billy "pfeffel" bunter to fuck off now hes served the populist purpose of doing a brexit
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 27, 2022, 12:22:32 PM
Footage from 2021 of Johnson pretending to go for a jog:

https://twitter.com/KarlTurnerMP/status/1541126831277019137
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on June 27, 2022, 12:29:11 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 27, 2022, 12:22:32 PMFootage from 2021 of Johnson pretending to go for a jog:

https://twitter.com/KarlTurnerMP/status/1541126831277019137

Also just out of shot: the private plane he caught to get to his car.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 27, 2022, 12:40:10 PM
Bloatus Jogson
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Post by: Buelligan on June 27, 2022, 12:42:52 PM
He's like Savile.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on June 27, 2022, 01:07:08 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 27, 2022, 12:22:32 PMFootage from 2021 of Johnson pretending to go for a jog:

https://twitter.com/KarlTurnerMP/status/1541126831277019137

The media toothlessly acquiesces to his charade by not taking any photos until after he's jogged round the car.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 27, 2022, 02:06:29 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/VR2trbe.png)

LOLBORIS
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on June 27, 2022, 02:10:15 PM
God he's a legend. Athletic, bawdy, says it like it is. I'd love to go for a pint with him. Imagine if the pint cost £2.69, the entire pub would be just pissing itself. You'd see the glint in his eye when the bar staff said "£2.69" and you'd just void your bladder through mirth.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 27, 2022, 02:17:14 PM
Looks like The Times have fixed their graphic:

(https://i.imgur.com/g4coSeV.png)

Eddie Reeves, the Tories' leader on Oxfordshire County Council, has called for Johnson to go.

QuoteBBC Radio Oxford asked all of Oxfordshire's four Conservative MPs to discuss Mr Johnson's future following their party's by-election defeats in Wakefield and Tiverton and Honiton. All declined or failed to respond.
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Post by: monkfromhavana on June 27, 2022, 02:30:31 PM
As opposed to "Children who voted Conservative in 2019".
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 27, 2022, 02:35:17 PM
Love how the donors might stop giving the party money because hes an unfunny cunt

Bet he smells too
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 27, 2022, 02:50:55 PM
Not sure if people heard about the house that exploded in Birmingham last night, but there are rumours (only rumours at the moment but logical at least) that it was due to a trend of gas meters being tampered with due to rising fuel costs.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Psybro on June 27, 2022, 03:04:36 PM
JOHNSON: It's just a damn popularity contest with you donors!
DORRIES: Now look what you've done you little FREAKS!

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JamesTC on June 27, 2022, 03:08:56 PM
69!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 27, 2022, 03:11:46 PM
"How many more years do you hope to be Prime Minister for Mr Boris?"

"69!"

"Hahha, you are so funny, please can I be your chief of staff one day"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on June 27, 2022, 03:15:08 PM
"Prime Minister Bunter, what is your favourite number bus?"

"69!"

"Haha, very good."

"I simply told myself you had asked 'what is my favourite number plane' as buses are for scumbag plebs."

"Wonderful."
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: lipsink on June 27, 2022, 03:18:02 PM
They suddenly realise now that he's not funny?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on June 27, 2022, 03:39:02 PM
Pay £40,000 to have dinner with him and he just spends the whole time making farting noises by putting his hand under his armpit
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on June 27, 2022, 04:30:32 PM
God he'd be a sight sat across the table from you. Having dinner with a coke-bloated corpse crossed with a thatched cottage.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 27, 2022, 04:44:18 PM
Quote from: frajer on June 27, 2022, 04:30:32 PMGod he'd be a sight sat across the table from you. Having dinner with a coke-bloated corpse crossed with a thatched cottage.

If you think that's bad, imagine having to do a 69 with him. "This is fine" thinks Carrie through tears, his hanging gut swinging and hitting her in the chin, the thought of the inheritance/divorce the only thing stopping her downstairs from sealing up forever.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 27, 2022, 06:23:55 PM
Meanwhile I see FBPE favourite John Major is still a tosser: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-6192998

QuoteFormer prime minister Sir John Major has described the contaminated blood scandal as "incredibly bad luck", drawing gasps from families watching him give evidence under oath to the public inquiry into the disaster.

Up to 30,000 people contracted HIV and hepatitis C in the 1970s and 80s after being given blood treatments or transfusions on the NHS.

Thousands have since died.

Sir John later apologised for his choice of language...
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 27, 2022, 09:36:42 PM
Quote from: frajer on June 27, 2022, 04:30:32 PMa coke-bloated corpse crossed with a thatched cottage.

 he really does look like a sculptural interpretation of a middle eight from a Be Here Now song

the man is just a bag of himself
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JamesTC on June 27, 2022, 11:00:38 PM
Hearing rumours that Big Borno is tanking the party on purpose in the hope that the majority is cut down a few further.

He's hoping to be able to walk into parliament and say to Storming Starmer that he is facing the leader of the party with the majority of...

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Reelection in the bag.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on June 27, 2022, 11:02:40 PM
I'm going to punch you so hard.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 27, 2022, 11:08:55 PM
The Telegraph is claiming there are three 'red wall' Tory MPs in talks with Labour to defect.

They really want Johnson gone, but it seems unlikely.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on June 27, 2022, 11:11:12 PM
Quote from: Alberon on June 27, 2022, 11:08:55 PMThe Telegraph is claiming there are three 'red wall' Tory MPs in talks with Labour to defect.

They really want Johnson gone, but it seems unlikely.

After all why wouldn't Labour want to get rid of their own left-wing candidates in those areas and replace them with Tories.  Brilliant idea.
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Post by: Armed Traffic Warden on June 28, 2022, 01:55:47 AM
Tories should rebrand as New New Labour. They'd be in power for decades.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: kalowski on June 28, 2022, 07:34:29 AM
Quote from: Armed Traffic Warden on June 28, 2022, 01:55:47 AMTories should rebrand as New New Labour. They'd be in power for decades.
That made me think of when James Brown used to call himself "The Minister of the New New Super Heavy Funk".
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on June 28, 2022, 08:59:25 AM
Quote from: kalowski on June 28, 2022, 07:34:29 AMThat made me think of when James Brown used to call himself "The Minister of the New New Super Heavy Funk".

Or Nintendo started calling all their new games The New All New Super New Super Mario Bros. World Multiplayer Inordinance and New Boutique Land World Brothers, New Version 2.8

Just come up with words that mean "newer than newer than new" instead of stacking them up every time.
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Post by: JamesTC on June 28, 2022, 09:05:01 AM
sixtynine
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: superthunderstingcar on June 28, 2022, 09:29:18 AM
Quote from: Replies From View on June 28, 2022, 08:59:25 AMJust come up with words that mean "newer than newer than new" instead of stacking them up every time.
news
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on June 28, 2022, 10:19:34 AM
Quote from: JamesTC on June 28, 2022, 09:05:01 AMsixtynine

hashtag
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on June 28, 2022, 12:02:59 PM
(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2022/06/28/TELEMMGLPICT000301128924-xlarge_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqhasgUMiR-rxiRxu9qBoVLQq7eesTW97Kjod2aK4ttzE.jpeg?imwidth=640)

(https://www.ladbible.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=720,quality=70,format=jpeg,fit=pad,dpr=1/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-images.ladbible.com%2Fs3%2Fcontent%2Fef41deb25b55ad1b5f957ccd16056f29.png)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on June 28, 2022, 12:28:10 PM
Honey Bunster.

Johnson looks like if the Honey Monster was an uncle who you remember in your mind as being full of joy and life, a big strapping larger than life bloke, but suddenly it's 20 years later and all his debauched honey-based exploits have caught up with him. He still says "I did it may way and that's all that matters. I'm here for a good time not a long time," but his voice is fucked and there's always a glint of fear swimming in his eyes.
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Post by: Butchers Blind on June 28, 2022, 12:40:45 PM
Fuck, he does look more like Jimmy Savile with every passing day.
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Post by: lipsink on June 28, 2022, 02:41:56 PM
Quote from: Alberon on June 28, 2022, 12:02:59 PM(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2022/06/28/TELEMMGLPICT000301128924-xlarge_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqhasgUMiR-rxiRxu9qBoVLQq7eesTW97Kjod2aK4ttzE.jpeg?imwidth=640)

Confessions of a Honey Monster.
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 28, 2022, 02:51:50 PM
He really looks nothing like Billy Bunter. Also misses the point that Bunter was an extremely popular protagonist for the very reason of his numerous character flaws, just like how Johnson got to be leader.

But very occasionally Bunter showed a conscience and some courage for others. Because it's just stories.
Boris Johnson is just a very real rich privileged cunt who lies to help out even richer people. Hes much worse than a student with an eating disorder
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Post by: Lordofthefiles on June 28, 2022, 03:47:48 PM
Is he losing weight at an incredible rate?

Anyone reckon the cunt had a gastric band fitted whilst his septum was replaced last week?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 28, 2022, 03:49:20 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on June 28, 2022, 02:51:50 PMHe really looks nothing like Billy Bunter. Also misses the point that Bunter was an extremely popular protagonist for the very reason of his numerous character flaws, just like how Johnson got to be leader.

But very occasionally Bunter showed a conscience and some courage for others. Because it's just stories.
Boris Johnson is just a very real rich privileged cunt who lies to help out even richer people. Hes much worse than a student with an eating disorder

I doubt Boris could fill a floor like Bunter and that's taking into account Bunter plays fucking Hard House.
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Post by: Buelligan on June 28, 2022, 06:11:40 PM
STOP SAYING HONEY MONSTER, YOU CUNTS!

This is exactly how Savile got away with it.  A veneer of golden smiles, playful harmless eccentricity, stretched thinly over a rotting contagious shark.
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 28, 2022, 06:36:07 PM
The Honey Monster scared the shit out of me to be fair
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Post by: JamesTC on June 28, 2022, 06:41:34 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Fhe3quf.png)

£69!
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Post by: Butchers Blind on June 28, 2022, 08:15:51 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on June 28, 2022, 06:41:34 PM(https://i.imgur.com/Fhe3quf.png)

£69!

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/367/163/a58.jpg)
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Post by: Ferris on June 28, 2022, 08:18:29 PM
Starmer needs to get some dank 420 jokes in before he's scooped by whoever is running the lib dems.
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Post by: Buelligan on June 28, 2022, 08:19:54 PM
That 69 style humour was another face of the Savile mask, wasn't it?  The big lovable weird blonde oddball with the fnarr sense of humour.  Vile.
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Post by: frajer on June 28, 2022, 08:37:41 PM
Quote from: Ferris on June 28, 2022, 08:18:29 PMStarmer needs to get some dank 420 jokes in before he's scooped by whoever is running the lib dems.

Starmer: "70! Which, as we all know, is one better."
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Post by: Pink Gregory on June 28, 2022, 08:41:31 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on June 28, 2022, 06:41:34 PM(https://i.imgur.com/Fhe3quf.png)

£69!

There are quite a lot of people who can't afford a £69 coat, or wouldn't even dream of having the disposable income to have £69 for a single garment.  People's fuckin government. 
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Post by: bgmnts on June 28, 2022, 08:43:55 PM
Might be a tan, mind. Like a second coat of paint.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on June 28, 2022, 09:07:25 PM
Quote from: frajer on June 28, 2022, 08:37:41 PMStarmer: "70! Which, as we all know, is one better."

He's naff enough to make partridge-style 007 references about his front bench.

License to kill... deficits!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 28, 2022, 09:09:33 PM
Quote from: Ferris on June 28, 2022, 08:18:29 PMStarmer needs to get some dank 420 jokes in before he's scooped by whoever is running the lib dems.

A three million investment for youth outreach and shifts in online culture and digital natives leads Kier Starmer to change the banner of Labours twitter account to the Hamster Dance and drop the following zinger during PMQs: "Caaaaan the Prime Minister really deny he dropped the ball on this one, or perhaps Mr T has eaten his balls"

Starmer claims the centre ground like dehierarchised digital nomad he needs to be to win
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Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 28, 2022, 09:12:00 PM
"Prime Minister, PRIME MINISTER: what does the fox say?"

Labour pays for a Beano frontpage of Starmer yelling "Leroy Jenkins!" and cannonballing through a picketline
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on June 28, 2022, 09:14:52 PM
Quote from: Ferris on June 28, 2022, 09:07:25 PMHe's naff enough to make partridge-style 007 references about his front bench.

License to kill... deficits!

My opponent thinks he's Casino Royale (2006) but he's actually Casino Royale (1967)!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 28, 2022, 09:17:53 PM
Kier Starmer muttering "like a boss" to himself as he accidentally knots his thumb into his tie
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 28, 2022, 09:23:35 PM
"Hey, Prime Minster:


WASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSAP!??!??"


Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 28, 2022, 09:26:58 PM
"What do you mean she's not allowed in the chamber? It cost us 300 grand to get Shirley Bassey and she's not going to be happy if we just put her in a cab and send her home."
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Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 28, 2022, 09:28:37 PM
Led By Donkeys unveil new ">tfw when boris still PM :(" poster campaign. Five million pounds
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on June 28, 2022, 09:42:05 PM
Quote from: frajer on June 28, 2022, 09:14:52 PMMy opponent thinks he's Casino Royale (2006) but he's actually Casino Royale (1967)!

*thinks* nailed it!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: kalowski on June 28, 2022, 09:43:25 PM
"Mr Speaker. The Prime Minister thinks he's got the Midas Touch like Goldfinger, but he's really just doing an Odd Job."
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 28, 2022, 09:49:25 PM
Mr Speaker, this cunt's got three nipples.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: superthunderstingcar on June 28, 2022, 09:55:34 PM
"Forty new hospitals, doctor? No!"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 28, 2022, 09:57:45 PM
"Mr Speaker, the Prime Minister doesn't seem to Dr. No what he's doing!"
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Post by: Butchers Blind on June 28, 2022, 10:00:48 PM
"...No, Mr Johnson, I expect you to resign"

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Post by: Bernice on June 28, 2022, 10:01:25 PM
Chuck Norris only has a beard because he doesn't want you to know his chin is Keir Starmer.
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Post by: Bernice on June 28, 2022, 10:02:35 PM
Oh wait, I'm a riff behind. Erm, something like 'Never say I'm a proud trade unionist again' but less shit.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 28, 2022, 10:05:17 PM
"Mr Speaker, if recent rumours are true the Prime Ministers plan seems to be to roger more and govern less"
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Post by: kalowski on June 28, 2022, 10:08:04 PM
"You only live once twice, Mr Speaker, but you need fiscal prudence at all times!"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: kalowski on June 28, 2022, 10:09:20 PM
Quote from: Butchers Blind on June 28, 2022, 10:00:48 PM"...No, Mr Johnson, I expect you to resign"


This is the winner.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: superthunderstingcar on June 28, 2022, 10:10:23 PM
"Mr Speaker, unlike the Prime Minister, Tomorrow Never... Oh wait, that would have worked better if it was called Tomorrow Never Lies like it it was originally supposed to have been."
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Post by: jobotic on June 28, 2022, 10:31:30 PM
"The Prime Minister says Wiff Waff when he means Nick Nack"

(checked with Evans to see if this sounded a bit racist and he said yeah but it's all good - Red Wall and all that)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 28, 2022, 10:34:44 PM
Quote from: jobotic on June 28, 2022, 10:31:30 PM"The Prime Minister says Wiff Waff when he means Nick Nack"

'member when Cameron totally accidentally said 'too many tweets makes a twat' and he meanted tweet? Them were the days!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Replies From View on June 28, 2022, 10:58:25 PM
Imagine David Cameron reflecting on his legacy.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 28, 2022, 11:09:02 PM
He bought a small twenty grand shed to reflect in.

Now he looks like Serafinowicz doing Alex Jones.

(https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article13141665.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/1_SWNS_CAMERON_BODYGUARD_01.jpg)

I bet the man's shite coils like a duck penis
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 28, 2022, 11:21:18 PM
Quote from: Replies From View on June 28, 2022, 10:58:25 PMImagine David Cameron reflecting on his legacy.

I'm sure he finds time for that in his premium wanking shed.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: superthunderstingcar on June 29, 2022, 09:00:59 AM
"Mr Speaker, a Spectre is haunting Europe, the Spectre of... Shit, no, no, I'm not a Marxist, I was just making a James Bond reference. Fuck, shit."
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JamesTC on June 29, 2022, 09:20:27 AM
The Japanese Prime Minister visits and Johnson knows a way to make him feel at home.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 29, 2022, 12:18:03 PM
Seems like PMQs is even more pathetic without him there.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 29, 2022, 01:33:31 PM
Raab has criticised Rayner for going to the opera:

Quote"She was at the Glyndebourne music festival sipping champagne, listening to opera. Champagne socialism is back in the Labour Party."

As if Labour Party politicians should only drink gin and watch Eastenders. Desperate from Raab. Rayner was poor on the rail strikes but given Labour's position on them unsurprising.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 29, 2022, 02:03:53 PM
Know your place poors.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 29, 2022, 02:22:53 PM
i'd never vote for someone so inauthentic, no one with that accent could possibly like opera for real
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Post by: Buelligan on June 29, 2022, 04:14:16 PM
In fairness, Glyndebourne is horrifically expensive and infested with corporate cunts who go along just to show off with their fucking picnics and network.  It's not really music appreciation for most.

(https://glyndebourne-prod-assets.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/02144600/2019-OPENING-NIGHT-AUDIENCE-18.5.19.-HI-RES-James-Bellorini-Photography-63-1920x1347.jpg)

I'd be interested to know who paid for her ticket.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on June 29, 2022, 04:21:14 PM
Quote from: Buelligan on June 29, 2022, 04:14:16 PMIn fairness, Glyndebourne is horrifically expensive and infested with corporate cunts who go along just to show off with their fucking picnics and network.  It's not really music appreciation for most.

(https://glyndebourne-prod-assets.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/02144600/2019-OPENING-NIGHT-AUDIENCE-18.5.19.-HI-RES-James-Bellorini-Photography-63-1920x1347.jpg)

I'd be interested to know who paid for her ticket.

Agreed. There's a lot to be said about keeping yourself insulated from the corrupting influence of the establishment. Once you get a taste of it it's easy to slip into seeing the benefits privilege brings.
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Post by: Buelligan on June 29, 2022, 04:28:42 PM
I think that boat sailed a long time ago.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1P4MjCXEAENwQz.jpg)

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/mps-star-wars-r2-d2-10409810
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Post by: gilbertharding on June 29, 2022, 05:10:27 PM
Apparently tickets are £260 at most - so that's a fuck of a lot more than I (the only thing I hate more than opera is spending £260 on a ticket to see an opera) would spend, it's not exactly millionaires only.

Of course I don't think she bought it herself either. She might like opera (and/or dressing up, or picnics, or champagne), on the other hand. Nothing wrong with that.

Tories bringing it up does give the lie to the idea that it's Labour who are obsessed with class war (as if there's anything wrong with class war).
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Post by: Buelligan on June 29, 2022, 05:25:28 PM
The prices (and availability of tickets) vary.  A good seat for La Boheme this year is £270. 

My dislike - the price is, of course, far in excess of anything I could ever, ever, spend just for my own pleasure, even if I saved all year - but my dislike of it is the dress code, the corporate aspect, the sheer exclusivity of it.  I used to know a senior partner at PWC who went frequently, just to offer freebies to the right sort of clients.  He slept through many of the performances. 

I like opera btw (not all opera but I've really loved some) so I'm not just saying this because I view all opera as the country of the privileged, more that I think Glyndebourne absolutely is. 
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 29, 2022, 05:35:30 PM
Let's not lose focus that Dominic Raab is a complete fucking cunt. Also seems Rayner came back pretty well, remember how he wouldnt come back from holiday during the fall of Kabul?

Why wasn't Sir Keir facing Raab? Has he got Covid again?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: gilbertharding on June 29, 2022, 05:41:06 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on June 29, 2022, 05:35:30 PMLet's not lose focus that Dominic Raab is a complete fucking cunt.

No danger, don't worry.

QuoteWhy wasn't Sir Keir facing Raab? Has he got Covid again?

Isn't the convention that if the PM isn't there then it's deputy against deputy? If not, they changed it.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on June 29, 2022, 05:44:20 PM
Raab is a cunt and no mistake. 

I'm just saying, and for me, it'd be true whether Ange went to Glyndebourne (and why, how much it cost and who paid) or no, I don't like her and I don't trust her.  The shoe thing.  The BLM thing.  The RLB thing.  The silence over Corbyn's suspension and the threat to suspend thousands and thousands of Labour members.  What's there to trust?


That's not to take anything away from the utter cuntitude that is certainly Dominic Raab.
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Post by: jobotic on June 29, 2022, 07:59:14 PM
I share your view.

One thing she did do well today was point out to the braying, shouting, barking, oinking Tories opposite her, when they got really loud, that they had banned noisy protest.

She could have raised it when Raab said his fascist bill of rights was about freedom of speech too though.

Still, better than Starmer.
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Post by: jobotic on June 29, 2022, 08:00:39 PM
Has anyone mentioned Lammy's pathetic apology yet?

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 29, 2022, 08:03:42 PM
Private Eye claims several cabinet ministers including Johnson, Sunak, Patel and Gove, went to Murdoch's summer party and that a special hedge was erected.

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Post by: mjwilson on June 29, 2022, 08:33:13 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on June 29, 2022, 08:03:42 PMPrivate Eye claims several cabinet ministers including Johnson, Sunak, Patel and Gove, went to Murdoch's summer party and that a special hedge was erected.

I can't even tell whether this is a euphemism.
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Post by: jobotic on June 29, 2022, 08:44:49 PM
We already knew that didn't we? Apart from the hedge
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 30, 2022, 10:48:39 AM
Seems there are those who think the Privileges Committee could do for him. Believe it when I see it myself.

In typically and predictably Trumpian style, Johnson, via his fans and The Telegraph, are calling the Privileges Committee "unfair" and a kangaroo court.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 30, 2022, 10:55:30 AM
I think the committee has 4 Tory MPs on it out of the 7, Private Eye seem to think that the committee is unlikely to be soft on him.

Quote@RhonddaBryant
·
2h
It is at least arguable that calling the Committee of Privileges a "kangaroo court" is itself a contempt of parliament.
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Post by: jobotic on June 30, 2022, 08:33:21 PM
A deputy whip called Pincher has resigned after getting pissed up and groping someone.

Say what you like about Johnson's team, they're still class.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 30, 2022, 08:52:51 PM
Quote from: jobotic on June 30, 2022, 08:33:21 PMA deputy whip called Pincher has resigned after getting pissed up and groping someone.

Pretty sure Boris has got an allegation of that under his belt. Someone who worked for the Spectator wasn't it?
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Post by: Uncle TechTip on June 30, 2022, 09:13:44 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on June 29, 2022, 05:35:30 PMLet's not lose focus that Dominic Raab is a complete fucking cunt. Also seems Rayner came back pretty well, remember how he wouldnt come back from holiday during the fall of Kabul?

Why wasn't Sir Keir facing Raab? Has he got Covid again?

Quite, if there's any time THE LEFT should unite against the enemy and present a consistent view against the Tories, this is it. But no, people want to question how much she paid for the ticket and who is paying it.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on June 30, 2022, 09:17:11 PM
(https://scontent-lhr8-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/290596734_1030564004311172_3726009177691205193_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=bUoCEUKI79kAX-yhWhl&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr8-2.xx&oh=03_AVIQ3ynbajkwddAW1EldhBefnJaGUHRO7Jf2IIG0og88Dw&oe=62E3728E)

Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on June 30, 2022, 08:52:51 PMPretty sure Boris has got an allegation of that under his belt. Someone who worked for the Spectator wasn't it?

https://twitter.com/JasonGroves1/status/1542585390116343808?fbclid=IwAR0Rih0E6qq9wN-HDW3dIuS1IKIc5i12XXG8idl_NBqpKxj3othu7ztWjRY
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Post by: Buelligan on June 30, 2022, 09:23:22 PM
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on June 30, 2022, 08:52:51 PMPretty sure Boris has got an allegation of that under his belt. Someone who worked for the Spectator wasn't it?

Charlotte Edwardes of the Times and Sunday Times IIRC.

And also

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9CQtIFXoAA3TuI.jpg)

He's a fucking cunt.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: kalowski on June 30, 2022, 09:25:04 PM
Surely people will keep saying to Johnson that the PM "thinks he's done the decent thing by resigning".
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on June 30, 2022, 09:31:41 PM
Quote from: Uncle TechTip on June 30, 2022, 09:13:44 PMQuite, if there's any time THE LEFT should unite against the enemy and present a consistent view against the Tories, this is it. But no, people want to question how much she paid for the ticket and who is paying it.

What is the point of uniting?  To get Starmer in as PM?  Hoping that Labour have to pay off the LibDems with PR? 

Unite and give Labour the chance of sitting on the hand grenade that is the state of the economy right now.  Labour, who spend their every waking hour thinking how best to suck the wicks of CEOs and sell out the working class. 

Yep, we should be afuckingshamed.  We must have lost our minds

Specially after the great example that Starmer's pals gave us during the tenure of the last leader.

Literally dying of shame here.
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 01, 2022, 08:18:03 AM
Perhaps the left uniting should be from the actual left wing parties Greens, TUSC etc - if they worked together for tactical voting I wonder how many seats could be taken from the big three parties.

Meanwhile John Crace calls Johnson the "Rwanda Panda" That'll show him! Although I quite like Crace calling him "The Convict".
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 01, 2022, 08:22:11 AM
Also, it says a lot that Johnson will remove the whip from MPs who vote against the government on Brexit but not from an MP alleged to have groped two people.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 01, 2022, 08:36:05 AM
Look at these chucking fuckwits.

QuoteTory MP sparks shouts of 'shame' as he mistakes Lindsay Hoyle for deputy speaker

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/pmqs-lindsay-hoyle-tory-mp-b2111996.html
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Norton Canes on July 01, 2022, 09:36:00 AM
Did we do Dorries' rugby fail (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/61999786) yet? I'm losing track of these.

Love that in her excuse - "Like Jason Robinson I may have switched codes in my speech" - she has the gall to drop in another, more obscure rugby reference, as if to prove that yeah in fact she knows all about both codes actually. Reckon her script writers fed her the erroneous drop goal line deliberately? 
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Dex Sawash on July 01, 2022, 10:41:26 AM
Quote from: Buelligan on June 29, 2022, 04:14:16 PMIn fairness, Glyndebourne is horrifically expensive and infested with corporate cunts who go along just to show off with their fucking picnics and network.  It's not really music appreciation for most.

(https://glyndebourne-prod-assets.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/02144600/2019-OPENING-NIGHT-AUDIENCE-18.5.19.-HI-RES-James-Bellorini-Photography-63-1920x1347.jpg)

I'd be interested to know who paid for her ticket.


Why do her legs seem closer to camera than the waist up part?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Bently Sheds on July 01, 2022, 11:14:34 AM
There's rumblings on Twitter that Johnson allegedly got his hairdresser pregnant & has sent her back to Canada to keep the heat off him.

Cue EVERY Twitter wit saying "He has a hairdresser????!!?!!?!!!11?? That's the most unbelievable thing about this story amirite?????????11??!! (20 sideways crying with laughter emojis)"
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Post by: jobotic on July 01, 2022, 11:39:32 AM
Poor Jacinda Ardern. She's having to shake hands with Johnson. Her skin must be crawling.

QuoteCovid deaths (from some bloke BTL)

New Zealand Total 1473 at a rate of 294 deaths per million
United Kingdom Total 180,330 at a rate of 2629 deaths per million.
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Post by: oggyraiding on July 01, 2022, 12:13:08 PM
Quote from: Bently Sheds on July 01, 2022, 11:14:34 AMThere's rumblings on Twitter that Johnson allegedly got his hairdresser pregnant & has sent her back to Canada to keep the heat off him.

Cue EVERY Twitter wit saying "He has a hairdresser????!!?!!?!!!11?? That's the most unbelievable thing about this story amirite?????????11??!! (20 sideways crying with laughter emojis)"

This is the silver bullet. Tousle haired shagger Boris Bunter is finished.
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Post by: Darles Chickens on July 01, 2022, 12:29:32 PM
Did we do this one yet?  I can't keep up.

Quote from: https://twitter.com/squeezyjohn/status/1542647614524592129So we're in a place where everyone knows Boris had a blow-job from Carrie in his office while Foreign Minister under Theresa May ... and nobody in the press dares say anything about it except from Private Eye and James O'Brien.  This is ridiculous.  It's resignation material.
Quote from: https://twitter.com/squeezyjohn/status/1542650636503851010He wasn't married to her at the time.  His wife had cancer.  He was having his personal pipe serviced by a mistress while his wife was having chemo ... in his office paid for by us, the taxpayers, paid to represent us on the international stage.

Legend Bozza.

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Post by: frajer on July 01, 2022, 12:33:15 PM
Bung Blowis Jobson a Bob for Blowjob.
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Post by: Butchers Blind on July 01, 2022, 12:36:28 PM
Nadine Dorres must be furious she wasn't asked to service him by mouth.
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Post by: Buelligan on July 01, 2022, 12:44:52 PM
Carrie has such enormous teeth as well.  Such a waste.

(http://pm1.narvii.com/8074/5fdc2fd2cdec53dbb8e789d23263a043fbda025dr1-590-472v2_00.jpg)
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Post by: Darles Chickens on July 01, 2022, 12:46:54 PM
(never mind, the picture vanished)
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Post by: kittens on July 01, 2022, 01:20:20 PM
I have come up with a good joke about this particular blow job but I am worried it is sexist. Can anybody help?
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Post by: kittens on July 01, 2022, 01:22:26 PM
Is it sexist to call any woman anywhere a pig. If I also call a man a pig does that make it not sexist. If I have to call Boris Johnson a pig I will but I fear it will ruin the flow of the joke. Please advise.
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Post by: olliebean on July 01, 2022, 01:23:59 PM
I think we've all got the joke already.
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Post by: Mr_Simnock on July 01, 2022, 01:24:31 PM
please put the joke up so I can then watch you be cancelled, it's dull Friday afternoon and I want a cencelling
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Post by: kittens on July 01, 2022, 01:25:50 PM
Basically, the joke is as follows, but I have changed the word Pig to Flower to avoid claims of sexism. Feel free to switch these words in your head when reading it but do be aware it'll be you being sexist and not me. OK here goes - I guess David Cameron is not the only Tory Prime Minister to have put his willy in a FLOWER's mouth!
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Post by: kittens on July 01, 2022, 01:26:23 PM
Im feeling good aboutthis I think Ive got away with it
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Post by: kittens on July 01, 2022, 01:27:47 PM
I guess you could say David Cameroon isnt 5he only Tory Prime Minister whose wife is a OLD PIG
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Post by: kittens on July 01, 2022, 01:29:20 PM
flower
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Post by: kittens on July 01, 2022, 01:30:17 PM
i meant FLower how do you edit posts. can you edit posts on this forum? im new can anyone help me edit my post
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Post by: Alberon on July 01, 2022, 01:30:47 PM
CANCELLED!!
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Post by: kittens on July 01, 2022, 01:32:34 PM
Carrie Johnston is a beautiful wife and i would be glad to call her my own. its just a joke. id love to marry her honestly. i didnt mean what i said when i said pig and i meant to say flower. she is a flower, an english rose. sucha beautiful wife whom i applaud our PM on marrying. i am sorry
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Post by: Psybro on July 01, 2022, 01:33:15 PM
My wife's reaction to hearing the story was "That poor woman", which certainly took me by surprise.
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Post by: kittens on July 01, 2022, 01:34:31 PM
our PM had his choice of ladies, the pick of the litter, and he chose 3nglands most beautiful wife whom i would adore to marry. im sorry sir for accidentally being rude on your wife. i was showing off to my website friends and i didnt mean a word of it
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Post by: kittens on July 01, 2022, 01:35:31 PM
Quote from: kittens on July 01, 2022, 01:34:31 PMthe pick of the litter,

the pick of the BUNCh! the bunch of flowers
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Post by: kittens on July 01, 2022, 01:37:33 PM
i have released a revised joke. times have moved on since i made my last joke which i now see is unacceptable. my new joke is as follows Why is she called 'Carry' Johnwson? Because I hope she Carrys on being our PMs wife for a long time and that she Carrys on being so charming and lovely, an english rose & beautiful wife.
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Post by: idunnosomename on July 01, 2022, 01:51:12 PM
A FLOWER?!?
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Post by: imitationleather on July 01, 2022, 01:56:57 PM
Do you know why people call Carrie Johnson "The Pig"?

It's because she's cleverer than a dog.
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Post by: JamesTC on July 01, 2022, 01:59:25 PM
I thought it was because she snuffled Johnson's truffles.
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Post by: poodlefaker on July 01, 2022, 02:31:54 PM
she first appeared in Private Eye before she was even born

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWhJRQnXgAIEi2b?format=png&name=360x360)
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on July 01, 2022, 02:43:05 PM
Can't believe Boris got a hummer off an unborn child.
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Post by: idunnosomename on July 01, 2022, 02:48:19 PM
LEGEND BUNTER
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Post by: Darles Chickens on July 01, 2022, 04:29:21 PM
From Private Eye:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWbEcBZWAAAAli9?format=jpg&name=360x360)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWbEcd7WIAAVtRr?format=jpg&name=360x360)

Plenty of people saying that the MP who walked in on them mid-act was none other than Sir Gavin Williamson.
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Post by: idunnosomename on July 01, 2022, 05:15:20 PM
Well i bet that killed the mood
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Post by: imitationleather on July 01, 2022, 05:17:21 PM
Mad that the exact same thing happened in The Wire.
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Post by: superthunderstingcar on July 01, 2022, 05:18:27 PM
Is Carrie Johnson's middle name "On"?
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Post by: frajer on July 01, 2022, 05:43:32 PM
Quote from: superthunderstingcar on July 01, 2022, 05:18:27 PMIs Carrie Johnson's middle name "On"?

Carrie On Johnson?

She certainly was.
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Post by: Zero Gravitas on July 01, 2022, 05:59:52 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on July 01, 2022, 01:59:25 PMI thought it was because she snuffled Johnson's truffles.

Was that the "the whiff of power" he was referring to?
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Post by: jobotic on July 01, 2022, 06:58:57 PM
He's suspended now.

How many is that suspended or sitting as independents?
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Post by: shoulders on July 02, 2022, 12:16:39 AM
Quote from: Uncle TechTip on June 30, 2022, 09:13:44 PMQuite, if there's any time THE LEFT should unite against the enemy and present a consistent view against the Tories, this is it. But no, people want to question how much she paid for the ticket and who is paying it.

Who in your opinion is included in THE LEFT?
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Post by: Zero Gravitas on July 02, 2022, 12:47:36 AM
Totally unfounded rumours of Boris having a hairdresser are circulating.

The one situation where I'd support a superinjunction, on ecological grounds, as even the suggestion is a flagrant waste of ink.
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Post by: Buelligan on July 02, 2022, 09:24:27 AM
Quote from: shoulders on July 02, 2022, 12:16:39 AMWho in your opinion is included in THE LEFT?

All the people on Starmer and Evans' banning list?  And the ones they already done, obvs.
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Post by: shoulders on July 02, 2022, 10:06:13 AM
I am asking Uncle Techtip.
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Post by: Buelligan on July 02, 2022, 03:49:30 PM
Sorry Boss

How're your vambraces btw?
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Post by: Buelligan on July 02, 2022, 04:54:58 PM
Just saw this -

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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 03, 2022, 09:15:53 AM
QuoteWe are, today, issuing formal proceedings against the Met Police for their apparent continued failure to properly investigate Boris Johnson's attendance at three lockdown gatherings, in November and December 2020 and January 2021, and their refusal to answer our legitimate questions about how they reached this decision.

The public have a right to know what really went on inside the Partygate investigation. The Met's actions have raised grave concerns about the deferential way in which they are policing those in power. It stands in stark contrast to how ordinary people were policed during lockdown.

It was only after we threatened to sue the Met in January 2022 that they agreed to investigate at all and the Prime Minister was eventually fined for attending a lockdown gathering in June 2020.

We've given the Met multiple opportunities to explain why he was reportedly not sent questionnaires regarding these three other gatherings, nor issued with fixed penalty notices for attending them, when a number of civil servants and officials who did received both...

https://goodlawproject.org/news/new-legal-action-truth-partygate/
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 03, 2022, 04:32:48 PM
QuoteBoris Johnson used a government private jet to fly home from a weekend with his family in Cornwall, prompting questions about use of taxpayer-funded resources.

The prime minister was in Cornwall and Devon on the weekend before the Tiverton and Honiton byelection, in which his party lost to the Liberal Democrats.

He made a surprise visit to the Royal Cornwall Show on the Friday morning and then was photographed by holidaymakers with his family on the beach at St Ives over that weekend, as well as making a party political visit to Tiverton at some point to campaign in the byelection.

Johnson also made a trip to Hayle, near St Ives, on the Monday morning where he visited a factory and helped pack broccoli.

Records show that a government plane left London to fly to Royal Naval Air Station Culdrose, a helicopter base near the tip of Cornwall, not far from St Ives, early on the Monday morning. The use of the government plane was first reported by the Sunday Mirror.

The ministerial code states: "Ministers must ensure that they always make efficient and cost-effective travel arrangements. Official transport should not normally be used for travel arrangements arising from party or private business, except where this is justified on security grounds."

Family are allowed to accompany ministers if it is "clearly in the public interest", the code says...

If Johnson had taken the train from St Ives to Westminster he could have given a boost to the struggling British rail industry. Instead he shows his distaste for spending any time among the public and his lack of care for climate change.

He may also have broken the ministerial code again, so I suspect he will be doing some further rewrites.

QuoteA No 10 spokesperson said: "All travel decisions are made with consideration for security and time restraints. The PM is accompanied on government business by a delegation of staff, which is taken into consideration as part of ensuring taxpayer value for money. This was the sole reason for the plane being used to transport the PM and his staff back from this particular visit."

Fairly sure booking seats for his delegation on a train would have been cheaper than using a private jet. I get that they might have wanted to talk private business at some point but I'm sure it could have waited for six hours. If Johnson had got the train from St Ives just after 8, he would have been in Westminster by early afternoon.
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Post by: Norton Canes on July 03, 2022, 05:12:41 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on July 03, 2022, 04:32:48 PMFairly sure booking seats for his delegation on a train would have been cheaper than using a private jet

Yeah but each staff has seven aides, and each aide has seven secretaries
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Post by: JamesTC on July 03, 2022, 05:15:27 PM
Quote from: Norton Canes on July 03, 2022, 05:12:41 PMYeah but each staff has seven aides

Flying aides.
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Post by: Buelligan on July 03, 2022, 05:45:40 PM
Quote from: Norton Canes on July 03, 2022, 05:12:41 PMYeah but each staff has seven aides, and each aide has seven secretaries

A Prime Minister with seven "wives" but how many children?  That is the mystery, how many children, in St Ives and everywhere else.
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Post by: Jittlebags on July 03, 2022, 07:05:11 PM
He also get to have a mile high blow job in the private plane, as opposed to one in a bog full of bangers and mash on the train.
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Post by: Alberon on July 05, 2022, 12:26:27 PM
With the storm over the hiring of Chris Pincher only getting worse what does Johnson do?

Have yet another phone call with the Ukranian president.

That's all he has left.

Nominations for the 1922 Committee open this week. At least two MPs are going to run with the platform of adding a rule that if over 25% of the parliamentary party write letters for a vote of confidence this will overide the rule that after winning a challenge the party leader is safe for another year.
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 05, 2022, 01:24:24 PM
Even for them, the defences that the minister and some Tory MPs are using are laughable:

Quote...Ellis responds by saying that the PM has a "myriad array of urgent pressing responsibilities" and may be told "literally hundreds of things in one day"...

Quote...Michael Ellis says Lucas is wishing to "play party politics" and that the Greens should win a general election before trying to change the prime minister and standards for public life...

Quote...Veteran Conservative MP Peter Bone says many members of the opposition benches turn up to the Commons to "bash Boris".

He asks if normal constituents are bothered by "an MP they've never heard of" or if they are more bothered by "the biggest tax reduction in decades" due tomorrow when the national insurance threshold is raised by £3,000.

"When it comes to policies, they don't raise the issues," Michael Ellis replies, saying that opposition parties deal in personal attacks...

"How dare they come here and criticise the Prime Minister? Why don't they raise what we say are the issues?"
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Post by: idunnosomename on July 05, 2022, 01:34:47 PM
I prefer to bash Bone over Boris
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Post by: Butchers Blind on July 05, 2022, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on July 05, 2022, 01:34:47 PMI prefer to bash Bone over Boris

I bet you do, you dirty old bollocks....
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Post by: frajer on July 05, 2022, 02:40:05 PM
Bung Bone a Bob to Bash Boris
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Post by: Zero Gravitas on July 05, 2022, 03:33:42 PM
Oh, he forgot!

Can't really expect a tory PM to keep all of the perverts straight1, fair enough we'll try again.

1. I'm above that one.
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Post by: JamesTC on July 05, 2022, 04:03:24 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on July 05, 2022, 01:24:24 PMHe asks if normal constituents are bothered by "an MP they've never heard of" or if they are more bothered by "the biggest tax reduction in decades" due tomorrow when the national insurance threshold is raised by £3,000.

Reducing the tax they raised three months ago.
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Post by: jobotic on July 05, 2022, 04:25:23 PM
One thing about all this that is funny is that my idiotic MP Kelly Tolhurst will have to deal with the fall out as she's been promoted to Pincher's previous position.
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Post by: Psybro on July 05, 2022, 04:51:02 PM
It's funny that they're still appealing to focus on the issues when they've exhausted the big ones of Brexit and vaccines, and are not only seemingly powerless in the face of the new economic ones, but proudly admit as much to prove their ideological credentials.
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Post by: Blinder Data on July 05, 2022, 05:26:23 PM
Twitter seems to suggest that this is the day most Tory MPs have had enough. Don't get too excited but there's a chance by the end of next week, they will have voted no confidence in him.

The new 1922 committee executive is elected on Wednesday 13 July. If the committee immediately meets and agrees to allow another leadership contest, and they have received enough 'no confidence' letters, the contest is triggered before MPs pack up for summer holidays. He'll lose it this time.

If that doesn't happen, we have to wait until parliament reopens in the autumn, and maybe even for the results of the priviliges committee report. Either way he is gone by the end of the year.

It's so close, I can almost taste it...!
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on July 05, 2022, 05:32:45 PM
Quote from: Blinder Data on July 05, 2022, 05:26:23 PMIt's so close, I can almost taste it...!

That's what Williamson reckons Carrie said when he walked in on them.
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Post by: Replies From View on July 05, 2022, 05:49:05 PM
If Boris Johnson is booted will the Tories still have shit smeared on them?  Or will they miraculously resemble a fresh-from-the-oven quiche all ready for delicious fidget spinning.

I hope Johnson's successor has a disorder where they can't stop carrying an ironing board.
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Post by: Paul Calf on July 05, 2022, 05:54:54 PM
They'll probably get a new-leader bounce but as whoever that is will be equally powerless to solve the problems that are really harming people, they'll either be a John Major or a Viktor Orban.

Might help Keith limp to the next election, and even take a weak coalition with people who hate him and/or have an interest in seeing him fail hard and fast.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 05, 2022, 06:08:37 PM
Javid GONE:
QuoteI have spoken to the Prime Minister to tender my resignation as Secretary of State for Health & Social Care.

It has been an enormous privilege to serve in this role, but I regret that I can no longer continue in good conscience.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FW6w4-WXEAEoi79?format=jpg&name=900x900)

https://twitter.com/sajidjavid/status/1544366218789937152
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Post by: Clatty McCutcheon on July 05, 2022, 06:14:01 PM
Rishi Sunak gone now too.
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Post by: shoulders on July 05, 2022, 06:14:17 PM
Only to return in about 18 months no doubt.

Fuck his callous disregard for human life and everything he stands for as well. Self-aggrandising tosser.
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Post by: Buelligan on July 05, 2022, 06:15:30 PM
Quote from: Blinder Data on July 05, 2022, 05:26:23 PMTwitter seems to suggest that this is the day most Tory MPs have had enough. Don't get too excited but there's a chance by the end of next week, they will have voted no confidence in him.

The new 1922 committee executive is elected on Wednesday 13 July. If the committee immediately meets and agrees to allow another leadership contest, and they have received enough 'no confidence' letters, the contest is triggered before MPs pack up for summer holidays. He'll lose it this time.

If that doesn't happen, we have to wait until parliament reopens in the autumn, and maybe even for the results of the priviliges committee report. Either way he is gone by the end of the year.

It's so close, I can almost taste it...!

It doesn't really excite me because I can't think of anyone that might take over from him or anyone with even the smallest chance of leading the Labour Party  of whom one can confidently say, they're honest and they'll do a good job for the country.  Every single one either incompetent or thoroughly dishonest and most of them, both.
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Post by: imitationleather on July 05, 2022, 06:16:20 PM
Quote from: Clatty McCutcheon on July 05, 2022, 06:14:01 PMRishi Sunak gone now too.

FUCKDOWN
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Post by: JamesTC on July 05, 2022, 06:16:33 PM
Don't let those traitors get you down Bozza. Just come up with some more of that classic material, like that 69 thing.
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Post by: shoulders on July 05, 2022, 06:17:09 PM
Isn't it great to know the press barons still run the country?
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Post by: idunnosomename on July 05, 2022, 06:18:04 PM
I'd like to see Alexander Billy de Pfeffel Bunter wriggle his wa.. oh
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 05, 2022, 06:18:22 PM
Quote from: Clatty McCutcheon on July 05, 2022, 06:14:01 PMRishi Sunak gone now too.

So he has.

QuoteThe public rightly expect government to be conducted properly, competently and seriously.

I recognise this may be my last ministerial job, but I believe these standards are worth fighting for and that is why I am resigning.

My letter to the Prime Minister below.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FW6yyrhWYAI064z?format=jpg&name=900x900)

https://twitter.com/RishiSunak/status/1544368323625947137
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Post by: WhoMe on July 05, 2022, 06:18:35 PM
Bollocks, was hoping Boris would cling on and fuck them at the next election but that'll be him gone now surely
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Post by: shoulders on July 05, 2022, 06:20:15 PM
Ah, our faithful tv media are stopping to give this attention. About as impromptu as a Christmas  pantomime. What a performance, what a joke.
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 05, 2022, 06:25:47 PM
One major task for the left is not to let the next Tory PM try to sweep all this under the carpet, as I'm sure Labour wont be able to stop them.
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Post by: Inspector Norse on July 05, 2022, 06:28:31 PM
Just announced that in a radical cabinet shakeup, Nadine Dorries is now Minister for Everything
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 05, 2022, 06:28:41 PM
Holy shit!
https://twitter.com/pritipatel/status/1544020712192704513 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ)
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Post by: xxxx xxx x xxx on July 05, 2022, 06:29:53 PM
69!
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 05, 2022, 06:30:14 PM
I'm sure Johnson will try to cling on for a bit longer. Thatcher did when Lawson and Howe resigned.
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Post by: idunnosomename on July 05, 2022, 06:30:25 PM
Forever remembered for preventing the threat of Corbynism well I agree with baldy übermensch on that
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Post by: BritishHobo on July 05, 2022, 06:30:32 PM
SURELY.

PLEASE.
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Post by: Indomitable Spirit on July 05, 2022, 06:31:03 PM
Emma Kennedy wins again
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on July 05, 2022, 06:34:55 PM
Quote from: Inspector Norse on July 05, 2022, 06:28:31 PMJust announced that in a radical cabinet shakeup, Nadine Dorries is now Minister for Everything

I just made a joke in another group that I wouldn't put it past him to give Dorries a shotgun and promote her to Chancellor.


All of this was nailed on after the VONC.  Lots of things will unravel with this there is a mini epoch imploding here that includes Brexit (or atleast the form of Brexit talk we've seen so far) and a move on from Covid.  Also the strongman babbler approach has been shown wanting so now there will be need for a new approach.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on July 05, 2022, 06:35:46 PM
What about Ukraine?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: imitationleather on July 05, 2022, 06:35:52 PM
It gets worse for Boris. Liz Truss has said she's 100% behind him.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on July 05, 2022, 06:37:11 PM
Need him forced out then the filth to fine Starmer.

Perfect
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on July 05, 2022, 06:37:14 PM
It would have been better for Labour if he stayed but now he is going I hope it is as brutal as possible.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on July 05, 2022, 06:38:02 PM
Nadine Dorries is at home right now drinking like a pissed up mentalist.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on July 05, 2022, 06:38:43 PM
Of course she is.  Say what you like about her, she won't let a little thing like this upset her routine.

Quote from: imitationleather on July 05, 2022, 06:35:52 PMIt gets worse for Boris. Liz Truss has said she's 100% behind him.

She always reminds me of a toxic fungus.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 05, 2022, 06:39:55 PM
Will Johnson have to stay on during the leadership election or does Raab take over? Can't remember how it worked under May.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 05, 2022, 06:40:50 PM
Quote from: jobotic on July 05, 2022, 06:38:02 PMNadine Dorries is at home right now drinking like a pissed up mentalist.

Hope there's some more resignations so she's one of the few left to be put in front of cameras and say it's all fine.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on July 05, 2022, 06:41:26 PM
He's just going to put Michael Fabricant as health secretary
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on July 05, 2022, 06:41:46 PM
Who are they going to mass behind then? Who's the big heavy-hitter? Fucking Gove?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zetetic on July 05, 2022, 06:42:15 PM
EGG GONE
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zetetic on July 05, 2022, 06:43:00 PM
Do you actually need any ministers? There are clearly some that you don't have to have.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 05, 2022, 06:43:41 PM
Mark Harper is calling Javid and Sunak "honourable men". They are determined to pin it all on Johnson, when everyone who supported him, from cabinet ministers to Tory voters, is partly to blame.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on July 05, 2022, 06:43:57 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on July 05, 2022, 06:41:46 PMWho are they going to mass behind then? Who's the big heavy-hitter? Fucking Gove?

I think the new weirdofash like Gove but now Cummings is dead they're pretty fucked, aren't they?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on July 05, 2022, 06:44:10 PM
Brilliant.  He is going to stay and fight, as much damage as possible please Johnson.

Probably going to go with the "trying to steal Brexit" tactic from the bunker.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zetetic on July 05, 2022, 06:44:57 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on July 05, 2022, 06:41:46 PMWho are they going to mass behind then? Who's the big heavy-hitter? Fucking Gove?
Rishi's basically fine, isn't he?

(Edit: "Fine" in the sense that the Tories will take him as PM.)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on July 05, 2022, 06:46:17 PM
Its time to get the queen involved i think. Put all her life energy into one final attack to defeat him. Charles becomes our new president.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on July 05, 2022, 06:47:45 PM
Truss will go, she is just playing the loyalty game for the leadership contest, she'll move soon enough.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on July 05, 2022, 06:47:51 PM
Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on July 05, 2022, 06:43:41 PMMark Harper is calling Javid and Sunak "honourable men". They are determined to pin it all on Johnson, when everyone who supported him, from cabinet ministers to Tory voters, is partly to blame.

It's mental, isn't it? All the stuff they've stood by him on, and they have their usual gall to act like the two of them are good men SHOCKED to discover that Boris Johnson is duplicitous.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 05, 2022, 06:51:24 PM
Quote from: Zetetic on July 05, 2022, 06:44:57 PMRishi's basically fine, isn't he?

(Edit: "Fine" in the sense that the Tories will take him as PM.)

Well that's Javid's second resignation so we can assume he'll bounce-back.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 05, 2022, 06:53:44 PM
BBC defending Boris. "He's a winner"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on July 05, 2022, 06:54:21 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on July 05, 2022, 06:47:51 PMIt's mental, isn't it? All the stuff they've stood by him on, and they have their usual gall to act like the two of them are good men SHOCKED to discover that Boris Johnson is duplicitous.

Hate them all as I most certainly do, I think the dishonesty of Johnson is Trumpian, even Savilist, I really do.  Whole 'nother ballgame to normal dishonesty because it can't be shamed.

Those two are boy scouts in comparison (when it comes to lying and the ability to get away with it).
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zero Gravitas on July 05, 2022, 06:54:39 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on July 05, 2022, 06:47:51 PM...good men SHOCKED to discover that Boris Johnson is duplicitous.

(https://i.imgur.com/yBrZ35q.png)

They've already got the incredible meme out there that Sunak was excellent if not for bending to the will of the PM so often, with this show of values not a large jump to frame that as the perfect PM.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 05, 2022, 06:57:14 PM
BBC: "Oh pearl-clutching drama, wot about OUR WAR WITH UKRAINE, we need Boris!!!"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Bennett Brauer on July 05, 2022, 06:59:07 PM
"I am sad to be leaving Government but me and Sajid have been asking for a Training Day for ages and you said you would arrange it but you never."
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 05, 2022, 07:00:21 PM
Quote from: Bennett Brauer on July 05, 2022, 06:59:07 PM"I am sad to be leaving Government but me and Sajid have been asking for a Training Day for ages and you said you would arrange it but you never."

you don't realise how close to the mark that hits. :))
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: H-O-W-L on July 05, 2022, 07:02:20 PM
bring back john major
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on July 05, 2022, 07:03:23 PM
Bring back hanging.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on July 05, 2022, 07:03:31 PM
I love the BBC showing clips of Johnson, Sunak and Javid laughing together like it's a friendship flashback montage in an episode of Stranger Things. Remember all the good times!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 05, 2022, 07:04:24 PM
Quote from: H-O-W-L on July 05, 2022, 07:02:20 PMbring back john major

bring back major tom
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: H-O-W-L on July 05, 2022, 07:04:59 PM
Quote from: BlodwynPig on July 05, 2022, 07:04:24 PMbring back major tom

bring back captain tom
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 05, 2022, 07:05:36 PM
Quote from: H-O-W-L on July 05, 2022, 07:04:59 PMbring back captain tom

sorry for the blasphemy
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Butchers Blind on July 05, 2022, 07:05:50 PM
(https://c.tenor.com/9VuG1d2QOOQAAAAM/oh-my-god-its-happening.gif)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on July 05, 2022, 07:06:08 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on July 05, 2022, 07:03:31 PMI love the BBC showing clips of Johnson, Sunak and Javid laughing together like it's a friendship flashback montage in an episode of Stranger Things. Remember all the good times!

This makes me so incredibly glad I've never watched it.  Every cloud!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 05, 2022, 07:06:15 PM
Dorries just seen leaving No. 10, Boris lights a cigarette "Not worth the 50 quid"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: H-O-W-L on July 05, 2022, 07:06:51 PM
Tom Rudd for Northern Ireland!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on July 05, 2022, 07:07:19 PM
Turned Radio 4 on about fifteen minutes ago, for the first time in years, and it was some lame comedy.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on July 05, 2022, 07:07:49 PM
Fuck me, look at the state of this resignation letter:

https://mobile.twitter.com/AWMurrison/status/1544380831178825733

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FW6-LayXkAU2c7H?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on July 05, 2022, 07:09:10 PM
Are Javid and Sunak liberal blue tick FBPE heroes yet?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on July 05, 2022, 07:10:25 PM
Quote from: Moya Lothian McLean on twitterWondering what the hell happens now the chancellor and health secretary have jumped ship?

No bother, join the @novaramedia Twitter space with @AaronBastani and @AyoCaesar at 7.30pm to discuss Sajid Javid and Rishi Sunak's shock resignations

https://twitter.com/mlothianmclean/status/1544381223082070016?cxt=HHwWgMC4-cai3-4qAAAA
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zero Gravitas on July 05, 2022, 07:10:53 PM
"No PM can survive the resignation of two senior cabinet ministers like that."

I'd actually laugh if he slogged on, in the first seeing my reconstructed face after falling into a tank of industrial chemicals way.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on July 05, 2022, 07:13:31 PM
Johnson won't quit. If he faced reality he'd have left long ago.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on July 05, 2022, 07:15:03 PM
The Moggster on C4 just now doing a great impression of that cartoon of that person in the burning house saying everything's fine.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on July 05, 2022, 07:16:41 PM
He has to. All the ones remaining loyal are the ones who'll never be near the cabinet again.

Unless it's the drinks cabinet eh Nadine?!? Haha
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Butchers Blind on July 05, 2022, 07:16:46 PM
Drag him out naked and screaming from No10.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: wrec on July 05, 2022, 07:18:59 PM
Quote from: jobotic on July 05, 2022, 07:09:10 PMAre Javid and Sunak liberal blue tick FBPE heroes yet?

Maybe they could be lured across the floor to help get Brexit done 👍
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 05, 2022, 07:19:09 PM
Quote from: jobotic on July 05, 2022, 07:16:41 PMHe has to. All the ones remaining loyal are the ones who'll never be near the cabinet again.

Unless it's the drinks cabinet eh Nadine?!? Haha

Andrew Bridgen MP (Cons) just said that on BBC.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on July 05, 2022, 07:19:18 PM
Quote from: Butchers Blind on July 05, 2022, 07:16:46 PMDrag him out naked and screaming from No10.

That's just what the pervy bastard wants.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: TrenterPercenter on July 05, 2022, 07:22:27 PM
If you are going into a leadership race and you've just been usurped by the Health Minister and Chancellor then your next best shot is to do the Gazza with the chicken and beer trick and stick around to try and talk to him, keeps the veneer of loyalty and duty going but I'd imagine it will eventually be shrug "I tried guys".  Is going too early a sign of good judgement or lack of stomach? That will be an argument for the leadership campaign.

It is wonderful that he is staying on though, maximum carnage, good lad.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Norton Canes on July 05, 2022, 07:23:37 PM
It's 19:22, he should resign now
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on July 05, 2022, 07:25:18 PM
I cannot keep getting my hopes up like this. It's unbearable!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on July 05, 2022, 07:25:33 PM
Does anyone think Johnson will resign?

It's insane to try and stick it out, but I think he will.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on July 05, 2022, 07:27:16 PM
Yeah I can't see him going without literally being prised out.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on July 05, 2022, 07:29:48 PM
he'd rather burn the party to the ground than resign

maximum damage is possible
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Spode on July 05, 2022, 07:31:38 PM
Can't believe, in 2022, I live in a country without a chancellor.

Can we function without someone to Chancel?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zero Gravitas on July 05, 2022, 07:32:13 PM
Quote from: Video Game Fan 2000 on July 05, 2022, 07:29:48 PMhe'd rather burn the party to the ground than resign
maximum damage is possible

I could see that being quite strategic, even more clearly a one off man mental is to blame, be sure to get a guy with a smarter haircut next time.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on July 05, 2022, 07:33:24 PM
I can't believe I live in a country with an Ann Widdicombe.

Currently on the BBC saying Johnson isn't a liar he's just scatterbrained. He should continue in his post, just with an advisor who tells him not to say stupid things. Great.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on July 05, 2022, 07:35:15 PM
Quote from: Zero Gravitas on July 05, 2022, 07:32:13 PMI could see that being quite strategic, even more clearly a one off man mental is to blame, be sure to get a guy with a smarter haircut next time.

maybe, but they've had several serious opportunities to give him the heave ho over the past two years and most insisted he was still the only man for the job

"actually he was a destructive rogue we all hated" doesnt even have a Brexit bus level of believability
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 05, 2022, 07:35:53 PM
Andrew Murrison can't even resign properly
Attempt 1
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FW6-LayXkAU2c7H?format=jpg&name=360x360)

Attempt 2 - probably fished out the bin
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FW7CN1YXEAICFJ4?format=jpg&name=medium)

https://twitter.com/AWMurrison/status/1544385269138350081
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Spode on July 05, 2022, 07:37:39 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on July 05, 2022, 07:33:24 PMI can't believe I live in a country with an Ann Widdicombe.

Currently on the BBC saying Johnson isn't a liar he's just scatterbrained. He should continue in his post, just with an advisor who tells him not to say stupid things. Great.

Fair play to Anne though. Incredible bravery having a go at his hair with the lid that she has got. Looks like Lego's mum
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on July 05, 2022, 07:38:25 PM
credit due, that shit blurry picture is very funny
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on July 05, 2022, 07:42:22 PM
"The man is not a liar, he's simply incompetent" isn't the critic-slaying defence these dickheads think it is.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 05, 2022, 07:42:52 PM
https://twitter.com/KateEMcCann/status/1544388131738222595

QuoteNEW: Tory vice chair
@BimAfolami
 has just resigned his position live on
@TheNewsDesk
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: RenegadeScrew on July 05, 2022, 07:43:19 PM
Quote from: Alberon on July 05, 2022, 07:25:33 PMDoes anyone think Johnson will resign?

It's insane to try and stick it out, but I think he will.

I think he's done in one way or another. His tearful departure in the back of a car should be glorious.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BritishHobo on July 05, 2022, 07:43:26 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on July 05, 2022, 07:38:25 PMcredit due, that shit blurry picture is very funny

It gets better...

https://mobile.twitter.com/AWMurrison/status/1544385269138350081

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FW7CN1YXEAICFJ4?format=jpg&name=medium)

Posted as a reply to the original picture! Didn't even delete and try again, just "here's another one". Beautiful.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on July 05, 2022, 07:43:59 PM
Glad to see Nadine "Bonkers" Dorries is as loyal as she is dim.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zero Gravitas on July 05, 2022, 07:47:12 PM
Quote from: Ferris on July 05, 2022, 07:43:59 PMGlad to see Nadine "Bonkers" Dorries is as loyal as she is dim.

(https://i.imgur.com/JymKGVp.png)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JohnnyCouncil on July 05, 2022, 07:49:23 PM
Javid & Sunak have gone. But will that be enough to save him?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Norton Canes on July 05, 2022, 07:53:46 PM
How the fuck are we expected to get by without a Trade Envoy to Morocco?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on July 05, 2022, 07:54:24 PM
Rees-Mogg just predicted that he'll beat Walpole and be PM for 21 years.

At least he's enjoying himself
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: bakabaka on July 05, 2022, 07:54:44 PM
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on July 05, 2022, 07:42:52 PMhttps://twitter.com/KateEMcCann/status/1544388131738222595

He didn't resign, he said that Johnson had to resign. Save us from journalists who can't parse a sentence.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 05, 2022, 07:56:14 PM
Quote from: bakabaka on July 05, 2022, 07:54:44 PMHe didn't resign, he said that Johnson had to resign. Save us from journalists who can't parse a sentence.

I think he did resign, a bit mealy mouthed - he talked himself into resigning and just went with it. Great stuff.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: bakabaka on July 05, 2022, 08:01:11 PM
Quote from: BlodwynPig on July 05, 2022, 07:56:14 PMI think he did resign, a bit mealy mouthed - he talked himself into resigning and just went with it. Great stuff.
The BBC are now saying that he has resigned, quoting the same tweet, which means that if I'm right and he didn't mean to resign then he's fucked. If he issues a correction he'll be seen as the only rat to rejoin a sinking ship.

I hope I am right.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on July 05, 2022, 08:01:24 PM
Quote from: BlodwynPig on July 05, 2022, 07:56:14 PMI think he did resign, a bit mealy mouthed - he talked himself into resigning and just went with it. Great stuff.

Yeah he started talking, then couldn't stop himself and by the end of his sentence he was no longer in his position.

Clown show government.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: pigamus on July 05, 2022, 08:02:21 PM
Chris Pincher's going to be kicking himself if a job in Morocco's just come up
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 05, 2022, 08:02:33 PM
I am resigning from the government
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on July 05, 2022, 08:03:00 PM
Quote from: BlodwynPig on July 05, 2022, 08:02:33 PMI am resigning from the government

For an hour.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on July 05, 2022, 08:03:11 PM
Gullis has resigned. Can't serve under Johnson's brand of woke cultural Marxist leftism.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 05, 2022, 08:04:04 PM
Quote from: frajer on July 05, 2022, 08:03:00 PMFor an hour.

I did threaten that earlier this week, but in relation to a couple of unrelated things.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zetetic on July 05, 2022, 08:04:30 PM
Oh.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zetetic on July 05, 2022, 08:05:14 PM
There's a page or two left for names.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on July 05, 2022, 08:06:01 PM
Quote from: pigamus on July 05, 2022, 08:02:21 PMChris Pincher's going to be kicking himself if a job in Morocco's just come up

https://youtu.be/D8qOh_bpEZc?t=87
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jamiefairlie on July 05, 2022, 08:09:48 PM
Quote from: RenegadeScrew on July 05, 2022, 07:43:19 PMI think he's done in one way or another. His tearful departure in the back of a car should be glorious.

Nah he'll be all googly eyed getting a nosh in the back seat
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Ferris on July 05, 2022, 08:11:55 PM
Quote from: BlodwynPig on July 05, 2022, 08:04:04 PMI did threaten that earlier this week, but in relation to a couple of unrelated things.

If you go, does that mean they'll be hiring?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Spode on July 05, 2022, 08:14:01 PM
Johnson should do a Walter White and just pop the shops completely bollocko.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on July 05, 2022, 08:15:56 PM
HIGNFY already trying to book him again
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on July 05, 2022, 08:16:57 PM
Gullis is literally just a shouting man with a beard
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 05, 2022, 08:17:53 PM
Quote from: Ferris on July 05, 2022, 08:11:55 PMIf you go, does that mean they'll be hiring?

No hiring and spending freeze
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: elliszeroed on July 05, 2022, 08:18:08 PM
The Prime Minister does not have to be a serving MP or member of the House of Lords... This is Chuka's big chance. Destiny's calling, but will he pick up the phone?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on July 05, 2022, 08:18:45 PM
did you ever meet Sajid Blodders. did you slap him on the head like Benny Hill did
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Spode on July 05, 2022, 08:19:24 PM
Quote from: elliszeroed on July 05, 2022, 08:18:08 PMThe Prime Minister does not have to be a serving MP or member of the House of Lords... This is Chuka's big chance. Destiny's calling, but will he pick up the phone?

Still sat in Nando's waiting for someone to take his order.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on July 05, 2022, 08:19:38 PM
The timing re: Pincher seems interesting. This isn't the sort of story that would have overly damaged him before so it implies all sorts of dirt hiding under the surface.

Why didn't Javid and Sunak do this at the no confidence vote? It would definitely have worked.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on July 05, 2022, 08:19:49 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on July 05, 2022, 08:16:57 PMGullis is literally just a shouting man with a beard

And all he can shout is WOKE

I prefer Johnson to Gullis.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: phes on July 05, 2022, 08:21:39 PM
Asked if it's a leadership pitch by Rishi Sunak and Sajid Javid to resign, he [Mogg] adds

"You might think that; I couldn't possibly comment"

Not cool
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: vanilla.coffee on July 05, 2022, 08:21:57 PM
It's now or never...
(https://res.cloudinary.com/dods/image/upload/c_fill,g_face,q_85,w_710,h_355/v1/polhome/UK%20politicians/penny_mordaunt_1_rncjlp.jpg)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 05, 2022, 08:22:52 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on July 05, 2022, 08:18:45 PMdid you ever meet Sajid Blodders. did you slap him on the head like Benny Hill did

colleague was going to l*bby him tomorrow after c*mmings latest bl*g
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Buelligan on July 05, 2022, 08:23:43 PM
If I got the top job, I'd go straight into an election whilst bouyed on the love of a grateful nation and fuck Starmer so hard up his lying arse.  This is the way the tories could win again, by tying Starmer's provable lies to Johnson's and saying the whole lot, the old lot, were rotten. 

Quote from: shoulders on July 05, 2022, 08:19:38 PMThe timing re: Pincher seems interesting. This isn't the sort of story that would have overly damaged him before so it implies all sorts of dirt hiding under the surface.

I'm guessing Cummings has a rolling plan, only when Carrie and Johnson are whipped, naked, through the streets to the scaffold, will he rest.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: elliszeroed on July 05, 2022, 08:24:10 PM
Quote from: Spode on July 05, 2022, 08:19:24 PMStill sat in Nando's waiting for someone to take his order.

So waiting on his wings, rather than in the wings.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: RenegadeScrew on July 05, 2022, 08:24:53 PM
Quote from: jamiefairlie on July 05, 2022, 08:09:48 PMNah he'll be all googly eyed getting a nosh in the back seat

And to think it all started with hope and humility, acting like a tool on HIGNFY.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Psybro on July 05, 2022, 08:27:32 PM
Johnson's downfall has ended up dragging on with endless anticlimax like the Buu Saga.  There you go, a reference everyone will get.

I swear to God that Dan Hodges had an article this weekend entitled 'Boris is still the man to lead Britain' which was wiped from history shortly after it became clear he was going to stick to his guns on Ol Pinchy.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on July 05, 2022, 08:29:02 PM
Quote from: jobotic on July 05, 2022, 08:19:49 PMAnd all he can shout is WOKE

I prefer Johnson to Gullis.
thats like saying I prefer a punch in the balls to a dead slug
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on July 05, 2022, 08:31:50 PM
I have said that and I stand by it
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: bgmnts on July 05, 2022, 08:32:26 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62049705

Rishi and Javid GONE.

Has to be fucked now, even in this post-accountability post-truth world.

What's mental is that at some point they DID have faith in Johnson to run a country, despite having no ability and being a pathological liar.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: kittens on July 05, 2022, 08:35:23 PM
breaking news from bgmnts
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: dannyfc on July 05, 2022, 08:37:45 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUmHurOXoAY173W?format=jpg&name=small)

https://twitter.com/beardedgenius/status/1533906392800804865?s=21&t=-GCFpawo_xxlYnW4KADUhw
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: David Pielingtonburygrot on July 05, 2022, 08:38:58 PM
Quote from: BlodwynPig on July 05, 2022, 08:22:52 PMcolleague was going to l*bby him tomorrow after c*mmings latest bl*g

This code seems impenetrable, can anyone assist?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Captain Z on July 05, 2022, 08:40:41 PM
Quote from: Zero Gravitas on July 05, 2022, 07:10:53 PM"No PM can survive the resignation of two senior cabinet ministers like that."

- CUT TO -

"Wow, I can't believe he survived the resignation of two senior cabinet ministers like that."
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on July 05, 2022, 08:41:06 PM
Quote from: shoulders on July 05, 2022, 08:19:38 PMThe timing re: Pincher seems interesting. This isn't the sort of story that would have overly damaged him before so it implies all sorts of dirt hiding under the surface.

It's just the same old Johnson routine of big lie followed by clarification after clarification as the truth comes out.

They've finally realised he will never ever change and, more importantly, they're fucked if he stays.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on July 05, 2022, 08:41:16 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on July 05, 2022, 08:32:26 PMhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62049705

Rishi and Javid GONE.

Has to be fucked now, even in this post-accountability post-truth world.

What's mental is that at some point they DID have faith in Johnson to run a country, despite having no ability and being a pathological liar.

They didn't, they just thought they had a duty to temper his actions for the state and the establishment they work for. You know, the one that actually exists while 'democracy' is smeared on the surface like icing?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on July 05, 2022, 08:42:03 PM
Quote from: Alberon on July 05, 2022, 08:41:06 PMIt's just the same old Johnson routine of big lie followed by clarification after clarification as the truth comes out.

They've finally realised he will never ever change.

Oh come on, none of them are that naive, in fact there are few people more corrupted and cynical than they.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on July 05, 2022, 08:43:29 PM
Quote from: shoulders on July 05, 2022, 08:42:03 PMOh come on, none of them are that naive, in fact there are few people more corrupted and cynical than they.

I edited my post as you replied, it is more the case that he's a liability now and they will lose their seats if he keeps his.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Uncle TechTip on July 05, 2022, 08:44:17 PM
Quote from: vanilla.coffee on July 05, 2022, 08:21:57 PMIt's now or never...
(https://res.cloudinary.com/dods/image/upload/c_fill,g_face,q_85,w_710,h_355/v1/polhome/UK%20politicians/penny_mordaunt_1_rncjlp.jpg)

+1 got 20p on this for 2 quid return COME ON
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: bgmnts on July 05, 2022, 08:44:24 PM
Yeah dont even know why i wrote that of course they didnt have faith in him to actually run the country. Presumably they had enough faith in him to not be such a walking disaster.

How can you have this much of an overwhelming advantage and STILL be so useless? It's like being at home, the opposition having 3 sent off, the opposition are two leagues below you and you still lose 8-0, scoring 8 own goals.

Boris Johnson is the Scottish football team of politics.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on July 05, 2022, 08:45:34 PM
Quote from: Alberon on July 05, 2022, 08:43:29 PMI edited my post as you replied, it is more the case that he's a liability now and they will lose their seats if he keeps his.

It's not even that. They are much bigger players than some backbencher.

It is the reason I give above, they work for a technocratic element that imposes its will on Tory and Labour that have seen the Corbyn and Boris era through, bided their time and are retaking control of British politics.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Captain Z on July 05, 2022, 08:46:19 PM
It would be strange for this to be the incident that ends it. I honestly think that, considering everything else, the majority of the public are apathetic to this story.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: shoulders on July 05, 2022, 08:46:34 PM
You know it is bad when the cynicism is so naive.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on July 05, 2022, 08:47:00 PM
Mordaunt was apparently named after an HMS cruiser which is in her favour. On the downside she went to the university I work for so must be thick as mince.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on July 05, 2022, 08:50:24 PM
Zahawi seen entering number 10. Our new chancellor?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FW7TNdnWIAIOjrD?format=jpg&name=large)

More importantly, what the fuck is going on at the bottom right of that photo?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Mr_Simnock on July 05, 2022, 08:51:16 PM
Johnson won't go till the queen dissolves parliament for a snap election this December after it becomes clear just him and rees mogg can't do all the ministerial jobs alone.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on July 05, 2022, 08:53:03 PM
Quote from: Mr_Simnock on July 05, 2022, 08:51:16 PMjust him and rees mogg can't do all the ministerial jobs alone.

make this every government job and its a great sitcom premise
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Captain Z on July 05, 2022, 08:54:30 PM
Quote from: Alberon on July 05, 2022, 08:50:24 PMZahawi seen entering number 10. Our new chancellor?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FW7TNdnWIAIOjrD?format=jpg&name=large)

More importantly, what the fuck is going on at the bottom right of that photo?

Kiss the balderman

Zahawi looks despondent. "Oh Christ, here we go..."
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 05, 2022, 08:56:05 PM
Quote from: Alberon on July 05, 2022, 08:50:24 PMZahawi seen entering number 10. Our new chancellor?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FW7TNdnWIAIOjrD?format=jpg&name=large)

More importantly, what the fuck is going on at the bottom right of that photo?

Someone helping Nick Ferrari find his micro-dick.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on July 05, 2022, 08:57:39 PM
Definitely the new chancellor.

Nick Ferrari that is.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JohnnyCouncil on July 05, 2022, 08:57:50 PM
I thought Steve Barclay was dead?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on July 05, 2022, 08:58:18 PM
Dorries for Education
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on July 05, 2022, 08:59:58 PM
Lawrence Fox for Culture
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on July 05, 2022, 09:08:15 PM
Quote from: JohnnyCouncil on July 05, 2022, 08:57:50 PMI thought Steve Barclay was dead?

In at Health, so as good as.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on July 05, 2022, 09:13:04 PM
can you imagine how big boris johnson's arse is? and the sound it would make if you slapped it?

maybe that's what needs to happen. the country marching to the Ukraine to the beat of our dear prime minster's buttcheeks. beautiful.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Spode on July 05, 2022, 09:15:18 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on July 05, 2022, 09:13:04 PMcan you imagine how big boris johnson's arse is? and the sound it would make if you slapped it?

maybe that's what needs to happen. the country marching to the Ukraine to the beat of our dear prime minster's buttcheeks. beautiful.

And yet they've just lost the man most qualified to wilfully slap an arse all night long. This guy just can't catch a break.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Norton Canes on July 05, 2022, 09:18:54 PM
If you'd have told me this morning that by the end of the day the main GC contender would be Wout van Aert and the main GE contender would be out on arse

(too niche?)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Norton Canes on July 05, 2022, 09:20:11 PM
Or just shit?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on July 05, 2022, 09:25:26 PM
Quote from: Spode on July 05, 2022, 09:15:18 PMAnd yet they've just lost the man most qualified to wilfully slap an arse all night long. This guy just can't catch a break.
a tragic irony. alas
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Jittlebags on July 05, 2022, 09:27:43 PM
What if Billy Blowjob calls a snap election? Surely it'll be a single issue election for the electorate. Like the last one was about Brexit, but this time whether we're happy with having a lying self serving toad as PM. Get Boris Done. The fat cunt.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Alberon on July 05, 2022, 09:30:08 PM
Quote from: Jittlebags on July 05, 2022, 09:27:43 PMWhat if Billy Blowjob calls a snap election? Surely it'll be a single issue election for the electorate. Like the last one was about Brexit, but this time whether we're happy with having a lying self serving toad as PM. Get Boris Done. The fat cunt.

Oh, please please please please!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Zero Gravitas on July 05, 2022, 09:32:14 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ZtE6rZo.jpg)

Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: superthunderstingcar on July 05, 2022, 09:38:47 PM
I bet they love the Holiday Special.

I bet they love the '90s special editions.

I bet they love the prequels.

I bet they love the... Christ, there's a lot of shit Star Wars stuff when you think about it.

I bet they love ALL the shit Star Wars stuff.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Consignia on July 05, 2022, 09:40:44 PM
Bojo preparing for other ventures? We ask the AI to do a simulation:
(https://i.imgur.com/Uuk6tuY.png)

Quote from: Zero Gravitas on July 05, 2022, 09:32:14 PM(https://i.imgur.com/ZtE6rZo.jpg)

This Gentleminions meme has gotten our of hand.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Psybro on July 05, 2022, 09:41:15 PM
Rise of Skywalker is their favourite one. They think Babu Frik is the best character in the whole franchise.

New page edit: this applies to everyone
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Butchers Blind on July 05, 2022, 09:41:55 PM
Quote from: Zero Gravitas on July 05, 2022, 09:32:14 PM(https://i.imgur.com/ZtE6rZo.jpg)



It's like Gary Linekar and Willie Thorne.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Lordofthefiles on July 05, 2022, 09:42:45 PM
"Nadine not Nadhim you fools"
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: David Pielingtonburygrot on July 05, 2022, 10:00:11 PM
Quote from: Consignia on July 05, 2022, 09:40:44 PM(https://i.imgur.com/Uuk6tuY.png)

Would, would, would, would, would, would, would, wouldn't, would
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on July 05, 2022, 10:04:48 PM
Rishi and Sajid together doing a dramatic reading of Kevin J. Anderson's Jedi Academy trilogy. they love the Sun Crusher!!
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: frajer on July 05, 2022, 10:07:38 PM
So was Starmer calling him Jabba the Hutt more damaging than we realised? Couple of hardcore Wars fans couldn't have ignored a diss like that.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: wrec on July 05, 2022, 10:10:14 PM
Quote from: Jittlebags on July 05, 2022, 09:27:43 PMWhat if Billy Blowjob calls a snap election? Surely it'll be a single issue election for the electorate. Like the last one was about Brexit, but this time whether we're happy with having a lying self serving toad as PM. Get Boris Done. The fat cunt.

Don't underestimate the gotta hand it to him vote.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: JesusAndYourBush on July 05, 2022, 10:17:06 PM
Quote from: Consignia on July 05, 2022, 09:40:44 PMBojo preparing for other ventures? We ask the AI to do a simulation:
(https://i.imgur.com/Uuk6tuY.png)

I don"t think the word 'tasteful' is necessary, it seems to have a block on doing any real filth. (Believe me, I've tried!)
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: kalowski on July 05, 2022, 10:22:55 PM
Quote from: Alberon on July 05, 2022, 08:50:24 PMZahawi seen entering number 10. Our new chancellor?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FW7TNdnWIAIOjrD?format=jpg&name=large)

More importantly, what the fuck is going on at the bottom right of that photo?
Cold War Steve as good as ever.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Cerys on July 05, 2022, 10:23:30 PM
Quote from: Alberon on July 05, 2022, 08:50:24 PMZahawi seen entering number 10. Our new chancellor?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FW7TNdnWIAIOjrD?format=jpg&name=large)

More importantly, what the fuck is going on at the bottom right of that photo?

That's just Gove, busy preparing his stash of inflatable ministers.[/quote]
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Goldentony on July 05, 2022, 10:24:23 PM
Quote from: Psybro on July 05, 2022, 09:41:15 PMRise of Skywalker is their favourite one. They think Babu Frik is the best character in the whole franchise.

New page edit: this applies to everyone

BABU FRIK IS THE ONLY GOOD STAR WARS ENDEAVOUR SINCE THE CREDITS OF RETURN OF THE JEDI FINISHED SCROLLING FOR THE FIRST TIME, MODS BAN THIS CUNT
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Goldentony on July 05, 2022, 10:25:41 PM
WHY ARE THEY INFLATING A BALD MAN
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: jobotic on July 05, 2022, 10:26:33 PM
What the fuck is Babu Frik you geeks?

This is a serious politics thread. Like something Marr might host.
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: Mobius on July 05, 2022, 10:29:12 PM
Just woke up, is Bunter gone?
Title: Re: A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2
Post by: idunnosomename on July 05, 2022, 10:30:34 PM
Babu Frik was an Anzellan male who lived during the time of the New Republic Era and the war between the First Order and t