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Title: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 03, 2022, 09:56:56 PM
Former comedy writer Graham Linehan has traded his career for ranting about trans people on the Internet.

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For continuing analysis of the alleged Father Ted writer's exceptionally public breakdown and subsequent deterioration

Timeline of events:

- Done a bad transphobia in IT Crowd episode
- Instead of saying "soz", became the most notable transphobe on the planet
- Spent 21 hours a day on twitter misgendering, insulting and brigading trans people and their allies
- Attempted to have trans charity Mermaids' lottery funding pulled
- hbomberguy live stream to counter this raises $300,000 for Mermaids instead
- then Mermaids got the lottery money anyway, meaning Graham failed on every level it is possible to have failed
- Depth charged his own career, lost his family
- Starting calling people paedophiles on Twitter
- Again: threw away his wife and children, his career and any positive legacy in order to call people paedophiles on Twitter       
- Got kicked off Twitter permanently
- Now subsists on thin gruel of his newly in-the-low-hundreds audience (down from 700k)
- Graham sleeps in a racing car, do you?
- Solicits sex from brothel called "Brighton Belles"
- Started sending things in the post to people like bizarre transphobic birthday cakes and white feathers (?!)
- Created false account on "Her" dating app to post peoples' private images
- National reportage of this incident painted him quite accurately as a pathetic moron
- Went to Parliament and made an absolute loser of himself, again
- Attended genuinely pathetic "Women Won't Wheesht" event with cum all over his jeans
- Sung Fairytale of New York at said event, pointedly leaving in the F-slur. And in July
- Attended further Women Won't Wheesht events to creep on fellow TERFs
- Shouted "Lesbians do not date women" at one of these events, baffling every living human being on the planet
- Has paid Substack blog on which his sanity has clearly evaporated entirely
- - Has paid Patreon blog that peaked at 23 subscribers and is now at 20 18 17 13 11 9 and hasn't been updated since July 2021
- Interviewed on GB News, came across as the fucking lunatic that he is, on verge of tears constantly
- Entire income is now tied to bigotry, no entertainment industry work forthcoming
- Again again: has literally lost everything in order to post hate on Twitter which he is now banned from
- Constantly boasts of buying new SIM cards to circumvent Twitter bans
- His sock accounts are instantly discovered and banned anyway
- Doxed his own "Barney Rubble" sock account due to stupidity
- Continues to make sockpuppet accounts that are immediately found, necessitating the purchase of more and more SIM cards
- Now so frenzied in his libel that increasing legal threats are being mooted
- Has claimed to have received multiple visits from the police
- Seemingly desperate to get sued
- Initiated 19/12/2021 "Gender Critical Coming Out Day", urging TERFs worldwide to compromise their safety by revealing their bigotry to others
- Was widely condemned for this transparent attempt to take the heat off himself that clearly in no way benefits women
- "The Mess We're In" falls into disarray after Arty Morty creates a rift between himself and Helen Staniland by describing radfems as having "bloodlust"
- Graham posts tearful video stating "I love you, Arty Morty"
- Wrote article claiming "Chris Morris fans" have been out to get him for 25 years, illustrated with screenshots of CaB posts harvested by "a friend"
- Joined Gettr, the latest right wing freeze peach Twitter clone
- Doxxed his Oliophi Twitter account in much the same way as he doxxed his Barney Rubble Twitter account, i.e. due to being a stupid clown who can't use MS Paint
- Made Stewart Lee's "In the Pedal Bin" list and promptly added Stu to his list of enemies
- Female TERFs begin to turn on him for sticking by Arty Morty and for tolerating "good trans" who agree with his bigotry
- Cameo'd in Simon Hanselmann's masterpiece of pandemic fiction, Crisis Zone
- Appeared on GB News again, ostensibly to talk about "safeguarding" in Girl Guides
- Had angry, rehearsed meltdown over trans swimmer Lia Thompson and the failure of everyone on his List of Enemies to Condemn Her for, uhm, existing
- Encouraged his audience to heckle Stewart Lee on his current tour
- Found out David Paisley attempted to serve him with papers at his ex-wife's address and promptly began ranting about harassment, despite the address being a matter of public record
- Spent all of January and much of February 2022 angrily screeching Stewart Lee's name because Stu, let me remind you, put his name on a list entitled "In the Pedal Bin"
- Decided it would be a grand idea to dabble in Holocaust denial by publishing a substack about how Dora Richter (the first person to ever undergo male-to-female gender reassignment surgery) might not have been murdered by the Gestapo in 1933 after all
- Went on Mumsnet to ask Stella Creasy if Eddie Izzard is a woman, didn't bother to read her answer, and diarrhea'd a "response" to her that included all the TERF Greatest Hits
- Backed Joe Rogan in the controversy surrounding Spotify continuing to host the JRE despite Rogan spreading COVID-19/vaccine misinformation, because Stewart Lee pulled his stuff from Spotify and the enemy of his enemy is his friend. Responded "everyone looks bad in clips" when someone pointed out all the disgusting shit Rogan's past guests have said about women
- Appeared on "Cancel Culture Club" YouTube show, possibly while drunk
- Posted a substack wherein he listed off several of his enemies and accused them of being complicit in child sexual abuse. Stay tuned for more lawsuits
- Made a follow-up substack singling out Colm O'Gorman of Amnesty International as being complicit in child sexual abuse. Declared victory when O'Gorman decided he wasn't worth the hassle of suing him
- Appeared on GB News again to rant about Stewart Lee, who just lives in his mind full-time now. Claimed he's "had to put [his] career to one side" to battle the terrible injustice of trans people existing, rather than ruining his life with a Twitter transphobia addiction
- Outed "JL", the woman who writes a ton of his substacks for free, while attempting to sicc his followers on Aidan Comerford and Alan Driscoll for the crime of asking her if she was the "JL" from Glinner's griefblog.
- Invited sceptic Aaron Rabinowitz on The Mess We're In, proceeded to talk over him and let Arty and Helen do likewise. Brought up Wi Spa incident, Lia Thomas and Helen's Penis Question as "gotchas", uninterested in Rabinowitz's nuanced answers or in the civilised discussion Rabinowitz was having with the other guest, gender-critical sceptic Andy Lewis, regarding the validity of data used to back up the gender-critical position. Could not rebut the fact that he'd uncritically linked to antisemite Jennifer Bilek. Had no answer when Rabinowitz repeatedly pointed out that he and his co-hosts had no interest in actually listening to him. Did a big cum in his pants when Rabinowitz said that Lia Thomas and other trans women should be allowed in women's changing rooms.
- Subsequently hosted a livestream wherein he declared victory over Rabinowitz, to the surprise of no-one
- While begging for money, claimed Pope Ted hasn't happened because of "homophobes and misogynists"
- Appealed to his audience for suggestions as to what Graham Linehan content they would like to see, such as an Ask Me Anything or an X-Box stream (!)
- Not long after, returned to his old tactic of calling cis women who support and accept trans women "handmaidens"
- Declared that Magdalene Burns' "fucking blackface actors" tweet is "stirring bravery of a young woman". Stated he would "make sure people remember the name, Aiden Comerford" which doesn't sound threatening or unhinged in any way
- Admitted to not answering the door in case it's the police come to do Stonewall's bidding
- Ran a piece by transphobic trans woman Debbie Hayton on his substack, resulting in complaints, misgendering and deadnaming of Hayton by his subscribers
- Had The Famous "Artist" Birdy Rose and her husband on his sadvlog to cry about how husband was asked not to be a part of a music festival because his wife is a notorious TERF
- Expressed support, via his Twitter sock, for the Texas government kidnapping trans children from their parents so that the parents can't "trans them", got into it with Neil Gaiman again
- Gettr'd a pic of himself and a bunch of other sad bastards at a "TERFs v Trans pub quiz" in Dublin, which later came back to haunt him because tolerating even "good" trans folk is forbidden
- Hosted a livestream on Youtube (which he failed to make subscribers-only), wherein he played poker, failed to order a takeaway, blamed trans people for his lack of work, claimed he was broke, called Stewart Lee a cuck who does whatever his lib wife says, and accused CaB of harassing him for the last 25 years, all accompanied by a black screen because he's a complete fucking failure at technology
- Completely overshadowed and dominated in bananacuntery by JK Rowling throughout March
- Will not be taking part in the Talking Ted podcast
- Gettr'd that he wants everyone on his List of Enemies jailed
- Gettr'd that he "doesn't actually know" why he was banned from Twitter
- Substack'd that Susie Green of Mermaids should be jailed because she deliberately transed her gender non-conforming child or something, his evidence is an out of context tweet written by some rando because of course it is
- Sicced his followers on some rando for the horrendous crime of tweeting that he'd lost the plot
- Finally attempted to do a Sitcom School lesson that no-one bothered to watch
- Gettr'd screenshots of bizarre threats he sent to Matt Lucas
- Went on Stephen Nolan's show and cried for attention while lying about why his wife left him
- Had another little piss on the floor about CaB "harassing" him "for the past 25 years", revealing he lurks here (hi, Graham!) and asked his subscribers to doxx the admin
NEW FOR SPRING:
- Gave a sickening interview to the Daily Mail wherein he claimed his wife left because trolls sent the police to his house for nothing, and not at all because he was harassing someone on Twitter. Also the cop shook his hand and left and definitely didn't tell him to knock it off. Repeated the story that Pope Ted is cancelled because of wokes and TRAs pressuring the production company. Neither of these "facts" were challenged by the interviewer
- Begged Elon Musk for his account back after the billionaire bought a 9.2% share in Twitter
- Posted a rambling sadvlog about Kartherine [sic] Deves, an Australian politician trying to mask her transphobia as "concern about women's sports", in which he almost did a racism by claiming liberals are afraid of black people, rattling like mad throughout
- Wanted credit for inventing the brilliant tactic of "calling people you don't like child molesters" now that right-wing nutjobs are doing it
- Posted a rambling account of all the TERF infighting on his griefstack, credited to "Anonymous"
- Remarked during one of his sadvlogs that he'd vote for Governor Ron DeSantis, an anti-abortion, homophobic politician, if he could because DeSantis hates trans people
- Set up a private Twitter account under his real name, awaiting the day when Daddy Elon gives him his original account back
- Claimed he was banned from Twitter as a result of being deliberately targeted by trans activists, cited as proof a dubiously sourced Excel spreadsheet of 4000 transphobic Twitter accounts
- Went on GB News to whinge about his fucking Twitter account being banned, again
- Bitched his face off about those "Learn about COVID-19" flags that show up whenever the disease is mentioned online because something something Big Tech Trans Conspiracy.
- Continues monomaniacally posting abusive comments via his Twitter sock which for some reason hasn't been banned yet
- Women TERFs continue to turn on and disown him
- Is generally speaking an embarrassment to all

Graham's accomplishments thus far: Raised an enormous amount of money and awareness for trans people, got banned from Twitter, lost own career, legacy, friends and family, is the stupidest cunt on the planet.

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Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 03, 2022, 10:00:27 PM
Guide to Glinner threads originally posted by Ambient Sheep

Prequel threads:

Graham Linetransexclusionary (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=65782.0) (2018/03/08 - 2018/07/22, 52 pages)

Twitter policeman Graham Linehan given warning by police about Twitter (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,69421.0.html) (2018/10/06 - 2018/10/19, 21 pages)

What happened to Adam Buxton and Graham Linehan's sci-fi sitcom 'The Cloud'? (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,70747.0.html) (2018/12/17 - 2019/01/01, five pages, despite the title it's mainly about the trans issue)



Main ~100-page threads:

Charity stream hosted to spite transphobic tosser Graham Linehan (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,71341.0.html) (2019/01/20 - 2019/08/02)

The all-new "Graham Linehan's a transphobic cunt" thread (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,74469.0.html) (2019/08/01 - 2020/02/11)

Graham Linehan's Beard Weekends: Transphobia III: The Sorceror (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,78002.0.html) (2020/02/11 - 2020/05/12)

Glinner Posts Mortem: Dying on Transphobia Hill 4: The (g)Room(er) (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,80113.0.html) (2020/05/11 - 2020/06/22)

Glinner V: The Dream(ed up) Child (molestors): A New Carbon-era (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,80980.0.html) (2020/06/22 - 2020/07/21)

Glinner Six Not Gender: Beyond Twitterdome: Racecar, backwards (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,81630.0.html) (2020/07/21 - 2020/12/27)

GVIINNER: cunt's gone bananas (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,84280.0.html) (2020/12/27 - 2021/03/15)

Glinner: Arty Morty and the Glinfinite Transness: The Hateful 8th (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=85730) (2021/03/15 - 2021/06/05)

Glin's Slide No. 9 - TransIXclusionary (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=87435.new#new) (2021/06/05 - 2021/08/07)

GLINTENDO GC: Bananac*nt Cis Tory X: You can't spell MUMSNET without TEN (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,88684.0.html) (2021/08/07 - 2021/09/07)

G11nner's erosion eleven: TERF speedrun (career/family skip, any%) (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=89333) 2021/09/07 - 2021/10/04

Glinner 12: Angry Men Won't Wheest: Onward Cistern Soldiers: A bonkers dozen (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,89845.msg4705529.html#new) 2021/10/04 - 2021/11/03

Glinna sadda defeata: 13 going on TERFy: How do you 13eat 13eaver 13other
 (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=90604) 2021/11/03 - 2021/12/19

Glinner XIV: CALOOH! CALLAY! IT'S GC COMING OUT DAY!!! (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=91644) 2021/12/19 - 2022/1/16

15 Glinutes of Shame: Lying in the Gettr Looking at the TRAs (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=92232.0) 2022/1/16 - 22/2/21

16 Handles: Glinner's Age of Descent (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=92877.0) 2022/2/21 - 2022/3/28

Wheesht 17: Alt-right, Alt-right, Glinner's Nearly Alt-Right (Deep Deep Down) (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=93484.0) 2022/3/28 - 2022/5/3

Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=94173.0) 2022/5/3 - ??? (You're reading it!)



Also related:

Graham Linehan and Arthur Mathews (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=22451.0) (2009/12/13 - 2009/12/15, one page)

Graham Linehan points out the absolute turdness of Jack Whitehall (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,27640.0.html) (2011/03/21 - 2011/03/27, two pages)

Comedians inciting their followers/fans to savage their critics (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,32053.0.html) (2012/06/18 - 2012/09/28, 50 pages)

Graham Linehan wants you to work for him for no money (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,36675.0.html) (2013/06/18 - 2013/06/22, three pages)

The Walshes on BBC4/RTE, by Diet of Worms & Graham Linehan (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,41419.0.html) (2014/03/17 - 2015/01/22, one page)

Graham LOLnehan (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,47511.0.html) (2015/04/20 - 2018/10/09, six pages)

Pope Ted: The Father Ted Musical (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,67328.0.html) (2018/06/02 - 2018/06/10, four pages)

Limmy vs Linehan (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=77606.0) (2020/01/20 - 2020/01/23, one page)

Going apeshit at unisex bogs (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,77920.0.html) (2020/02/06 - 2020/02/09, five pages)

JK Rowling TERFing her legacy into the bin (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,80674.0.html) (2020/06/07 - 2022/04/14)

GC Rowling's Battlefield TERF, Part 2: Fantastic Wheests and Where To Find Them (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=93818.0) (2022/04/14 - ???)

Glinner: thread for backseat moderators and hand-wringing (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,80965.0.html) (2020/06/20 - ???)



A little light relief - H.S. Art threads

What's Graham Linehan up to? (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,73434.0.html) (2019/05/29 - 2019/06/10, one page)

Imagine if Graham Linehan (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,76331.0.html%5B/url) (2019/11/12 - 2019/11/13, one page)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 03, 2022, 10:25:33 PM
Repeated from the old thread, my mistake


Quote from: Martin Van Buren Stan on May 03, 2022, 09:58:10 PMHave you got the full context does? I've barely followed Lineman's antics for a while, but I find it hard to believe he's unironically supporting Desantis. If I'm wrong then he's fallen a lot further than I ever thought possible

From this video here, talks about Desantis and then stumbles/says he'd vote for them


(https://i.imgur.com/9PPUU1a.png)

Edit, thanks for the new thread and update @Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on May 03, 2022, 10:31:17 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 03, 2022, 10:25:33 PMRepeated from the old thread, my mistake


From this video here, talks about Desantis and then stumbles/says he'd vote for them


(https://i.imgur.com/9PPUU1a.png)

Edit, thanks for the new thread and update @Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse

Where I went and said this!

Quote from: Martin Van Buren Stan on May 03, 2022, 10:27:55 PMInteresting. I understand being a single issue voter but I guess this was before the Roe v Wade news. Unless he thinks you can vote for the make abortion illegal party, to defend women's rights
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: buttgammon on May 03, 2022, 10:59:14 PM
Defending women's rights by denying them choices and leading them to their deaths when they can't access safe, legal healthcare.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: bgmnts on May 03, 2022, 11:55:30 PM
18 threads!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 03, 2022, 11:56:23 PM
And of course he's more concerned about inclusive language than the fact abortion in the USA is under threat.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 04, 2022, 02:13:22 AM
I'm still gobsmacked that he's trying to spin Roe v Wade being overturned as the fault of trans people.

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Elfking on May 04, 2022, 02:59:55 AM
Don't forget that you will never be able to ban abortion no matter how deeply conservative or religious your state/country is... all you will do is ban access to safe abortion.

The way the Supreme Court have worded their statement makes it seem like this is very much the start. In the statement they directly attacked the decision allowing same-sex marriage and even interacial marriage as being issues. The Supreme court in America is intensely political and with the right pushing further away from the centre it is only a matter of time before more ACTUAL hard won rights come under attack.

I saw someone on Twitter say that the attacks on trans people and women as evidence that feminism needs to be trans-inclusive and that they need to step up for each other. I couldn't agree more. The political attacks on trans people are just one part of a broader problem.

I said this in a political Discord the other day but it is strange how the rhetoric towards things in this country is often terrible. There is no shortage of people ready to attack ANY minority for any reasons. Trans people, immigrants, BAME people, travellers... everyone is open to attack from the media and our conservative dominated politicians. Yet in terms of legislation they attempt to do very little and succeed in even less. There have been a few court cases about trans issues, one of which had a bad ruling that was then overturned on appeal, but for the most part the justice system has steadfastly refused to back down over minority rights.

In America though it is completely different. I feel the rhetoric is less one-sided (perhaps a false impression from not living there) and yet there are anti-trans laws passing all over the place, they just basically took away abortion access for millions of women... They seem to have no problem passing the most horrid shit through their system as if they're Glinner after a particularly bad carbonara.

The absolute politisation of things like judges in America continues to bewilder me. They are meant to serve the law, not a party or political ideal, and yet they more often than not split on party lines. There's plenty about the UK system that is fucked and needs to be fixed but I am so thankful our judges aren't so deeply politicised.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jamiefairlie on May 04, 2022, 05:02:43 AM
Quote from: Elfking on May 04, 2022, 02:59:55 AMDon't forget that you will never be able to ban abortion no matter how deeply conservative or religious your state/country is... all you will do is ban access to safe abortion.

The way the Supreme Court have worded their statement makes it seem like this is very much the start. In the statement they directly attacked the decision allowing same-sex marriage and even interacial marriage as being issues. The Supreme court in America is intensely political and with the right pushing further away from the centre it is only a matter of time before more ACTUAL hard won rights come under attack.

I saw someone on Twitter say that the attacks on trans people and women as evidence that feminism needs to be trans-inclusive and that they need to step up for each other. I couldn't agree more. The political attacks on trans people are just one part of a broader problem.

I said this in a political Discord the other day but it is strange how the rhetoric towards things in this country is often terrible. There is no shortage of people ready to attack ANY minority for any reasons. Trans people, immigrants, BAME people, travellers... everyone is open to attack from the media and our conservative dominated politicians. Yet in terms of legislation they attempt to do very little and succeed in even less. There have been a few court cases about trans issues, one of which had a bad ruling that was then overturned on appeal, but for the most part the justice system has steadfastly refused to back down over minority rights.

In America though it is completely different. I feel the rhetoric is less one-sided (perhaps a false impression from not living there) and yet there are anti-trans laws passing all over the place, they just basically took away abortion access for millions of women... They seem to have no problem passing the most horrid shit through their system as if they're Glinner after a particularly bad carbonara.

The absolute politisation of things like judges in America continues to bewilder me. They are meant to serve the law, not a party or political ideal, and yet they more often than not split on party lines. There's plenty about the UK system that is fucked and needs to be fixed but I am so thankful our judges aren't so deeply politicised.

They just all went to school with the government.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: YouCantWriteTearsJimmy on May 04, 2022, 05:30:58 AM
Banana's ex-wife reposted a post by an openly trans-rights-supporting account in the context of the abortion situation in the US. Guess Helen has been captured.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 04, 2022, 07:31:05 AM
Quote from: Sonny_Jim on May 04, 2022, 02:13:22 AMI'm still gobsmacked that he's trying to spin Roe v Wade being overturned as the fault of trans people.



They all are. The gist seems to be "this is what happens when you stop defending women's rights and start letting men say they are women", as if those two things are mutually exclusive (and obviously ignoring how wrong the second part is)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Zetetic on May 04, 2022, 07:36:50 AM
Quote from: Elfking on May 04, 2022, 02:59:55 AMYet in terms of legislation they attempt to do very little and succeed in even less. There have been a few court cases about trans issues, one of which had a bad ruling that was then overturned on appeal, but for the most part the justice system has steadfastly refused to back down over minority rights.
The court cases are mostly over things that are close to irrelevant, but they soak up time and energy.

The Bell & puberty blockers & Gillick competency stuff is a good example of this, because all the discussions about principles of consent to treatment in children are almost completely irrelevant - one way or the other - given the reality of capacity, demand and backlog in the services involved.

"Minority rights" don't matter much if they're rendered meaningless by other means. Another example - you can't tell a prospective to trans tenant to fuck off, just because they're trans. You can however demand a guarantor and rent-in-advance - and for all sorts of reasons (e.g. higher likelihood of parental estrangement) that's going to prove a decent way of weeding a bunch of them out. (And, of course, you can always choose who you ask for these things from...)

(There's an interesting dynamic whereby this ends up meaning that rights are much more enforceable, if you're a sufficiently rich trans person.)

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Zetetic on May 04, 2022, 07:40:14 AM
To echo something from the last thread - access to safe abortion remains a huge problem in the UK (Northern Ireland continues to commission no services - another example of how rights mean nothing without the ability to use them) and Europe (e.g. Poland, to pick a prominent example).

If you want to help, beyond asking "why isn't Glinner talking about this?", consider donating to or otherwise supporting the Abortion Support Network (https://www.asn.org.uk/).

(I suggest you're better off trying to help in your own backyard, if you're a European, than donating to American organisations just because the US is attracting more noise right now.)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: king_tubby on May 04, 2022, 07:53:54 AM
JK Rowling.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: YouCantWriteTearsJimmy on May 04, 2022, 07:56:59 AM
Quote from: Zetetic on May 04, 2022, 07:40:14 AMif you're a European

I'd suggest to donating to Polish/Maltese/Hungarian/Andorran reproductive and women's rights groups.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Zetetic on May 04, 2022, 07:59:56 AM
Some of those countries make it relatively difficult to donate to political groups, from the outside which is why I linked to the Abortion Support Network (https://www.asn.org.uk/):

QuoteAbortion Support Network helps people who need to access safe abortions. We provide information on clinics, travel and accommodation, and provide financial assistance to help with costs for those who need it.  We do this for women and pregnant people resident in Ireland, Northern Ireland, the Isle of Man, Malta, Gibraltar, Poland, Romania, Hungary, France, Spain, the Czech Republic and the other EU countries on a case-by-case basis.

(Noting that the ASN works with groups in these countries, e.g. as part of Abortion without Borders (https://www.asn.org.uk/about-abortion-without-borders/).)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: YouCantWriteTearsJimmy on May 04, 2022, 08:37:45 AM
Quote from: Zetetic on May 04, 2022, 07:59:56 AMSome of those countries make it relatively difficult to donate to political groups, from the outside which is why I linked to the Abortion Support Network (https://www.asn.org.uk/):

(Noting that the ASN works with groups in these countries, e.g. as part of Abortion without Borders (https://www.asn.org.uk/about-abortion-without-borders/).)

Ah woops, yeah, donating money from the UK is probably a bit more difficult.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JaDanketies on May 04, 2022, 08:41:44 AM
His ex is a TRA confirmed. On her insta she reblogged something by pro-trans Mara, scroll down Mara's feed and there's a picture about the UK exporting transphobia, check who liked it and his ex did.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: YouCantWriteTearsJimmy on May 04, 2022, 09:00:34 AM
Quote from: JaDanketies on May 04, 2022, 08:41:44 AMHis ex is a TRA confirmed. On her insta she reblogged something by pro-trans Mara, scroll down Mara's feed and there's a picture about the UK exporting transphobia, check who liked it and his ex did.

Don't bother her, but still ...kind of telling, no? I'm SO relieved to be honest that she's not a banana.  (Also don't use her to attack BC, she's got nothing to do with BC's current anti transgender activism)

(https://i.imgur.com/6rIAlc3.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: madhair60 on May 04, 2022, 09:02:43 AM
Christ, I remember back in, what, thread six, going "this'll be the last one, it's winding down now"
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Guppy on May 04, 2022, 09:07:03 AM
Only two ways this ends. He dies, or our planet Earth dies.

We'll probably get sick of talking about him as he gets less and less relevant though.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 04, 2022, 09:19:19 AM
Quote from: Zetetic on May 04, 2022, 07:40:14 AMTo echo something from the last thread - access to safe abortion remains a huge problem in the UK (Northern Ireland continues to commission no services - another example of how rights mean nothing without the ability to use them) and Europe (e.g. Poland, to pick a prominent example).

If you want to help, beyond asking "why isn't Glinner talking about this?", consider donating to or otherwise supporting the Abortion Support Network (https://www.asn.org.uk/).


Why do you keep doing this? Implying that no one gives a shit unless it's to use as a stick to beat Linehan?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: George Oscar Bluth II on May 04, 2022, 09:19:49 AM
Quote from: Sonny_Jim on May 04, 2022, 02:13:22 AMI'm still gobsmacked that he's trying to spin Roe v Wade being overturned as the fault of trans people.

And declaring that he'd support the anti-abortion governor of Florida because he also hates trans people. He's come quite the way from the Repeal the 8th campaign.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JaDanketies on May 04, 2022, 09:26:16 AM
Quote from: YouCantWriteTearsJimmy on May 04, 2022, 09:00:34 AMDon't bother her, but still ...kind of telling, no? I'm SO relieved to be honest that she's not a banana.  (Also don't use her to attack BC, she's got nothing to do with BC's current anti transgender activism)

iirc she and Graham were buddies with Brian Cox's terf-as-fuck wife. She might have even been terfy when they were together, there was a lot of speculation she was, although her brother said she wasn't. I don't think you could remain a terf if Graham was your ex regardless. Also this also indicates that his kids aren't likely to agree with him at all. So there's hope for even more barren loneliness when they're 18
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phes on May 04, 2022, 09:26:45 AM
Quote from: The Guppy on May 04, 2022, 09:07:03 AMWe'll probably get sick of talking about him as he gets less and less relevant though.
Like the explosively inflamed bowels of a chronic drunkard, he will find more foul and humiliating ways to be noticed
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Zetetic on May 04, 2022, 09:30:37 AM
Quote from: jobotic on May 04, 2022, 09:19:19 AMImplying that no one gives a shit unless it's to use as a stick to beat Linehan?
I'm pretty sure trying to provide a readily-accessible alternative suggests that I believe that at least some people do give a shit beyond that; I wouldn't bother posting links to the ASN otherwise.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Alberon on May 04, 2022, 09:40:55 AM
I don't think there's much further Linehan can go in respect to transphobia, but there is an area of growth in extremist views.

Since attacking trans people is the single most important thing ever in his small, curved yellow brain he will shack up with anyone who supports that narrow view even if their other opinions are something like the necessity of attacking small kittens with large hammers or worse.

His monomania is getting worse not better.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: YouCantWriteTearsJimmy on May 04, 2022, 09:41:36 AM
Quote from: JaDanketies on May 04, 2022, 09:26:16 AMiirc she and Graham were buddies with Brian Cox's terf-as-fuck wife. She might have even been terfy when they were together, there was a lot of speculation she was, although her brother said she wasn't. I don't think you could remain a terf if Graham was your ex regardless. Also this also indicates that his kids aren't likely to agree with him at all. So there's hope for even more barren loneliness when they're 18

When anti-transgender activists keep getting propped up by anti-abortion movements around the world ... it's pretty hard to not smell the bullshit. I'm guessing that plays a part in turning away from GC movements, if any ex-gc'ers can attest too, do chime in. Hellycakes probably just has half-a-brain to see the obvious.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 04, 2022, 09:47:11 AM
Quote from: Zetetic on May 04, 2022, 09:30:37 AMI'm pretty sure trying to provide a readily-accessible alternative suggests that I believe that at least some people do give a shit beyond that; I wouldn't bother posting links to the ASN otherwise.

Yeah and I appreciate it, but you posted this in the last thread

QuoteIf your support for access to safe abortion extends beyond rhetorical questions about troubled ex-funnyman Graham Linehan's behaviour, then you could consider donating to the ASN:
https://www.asn.org.uk/
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: boki on May 04, 2022, 09:48:42 AM
Quote from: bgmnts on May 03, 2022, 11:55:30 PM18 threads!
Can't believe it's been twelve threads since that cunt went bananas.  Still freaks my nut out to this day.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 04, 2022, 09:59:49 AM

Quote from: Sonny_Jim on May 04, 2022, 02:13:22 AMI'm still gobsmacked that he's trying to spin Roe v Wade being overturned as the fault of trans people.


and that it's just a small symptom of this ultimate evil

He cant even pretend to care about it to look like an actual feminist, because THIS IS WHAT GRAHAM LINEHAN ACTUALLY BELIEVES
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 04, 2022, 10:07:13 AM
Someone just took a run at Dave Chappelle on stage then promptly got absolutely kerb stomped by Dave's handlers backstage.

I'm sure Graham will find some way to blame this on trans people.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 04, 2022, 10:11:22 AM
Quote from: Sonny_Jim on May 04, 2022, 10:07:13 AMSomeone just took a run at Dave Chappelle on stage then promptly got absolutely kerb stomped by Dave's handlers backstage.

I'm sure Graham will find some way to blame this on trans people.

Chappelle's first "joke" after it happened: That was a trans man

"Quickest someone loses sympathy after being attacked" of the week
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: pigamus on May 04, 2022, 10:31:04 AM
Quote from: idunnosomename on May 04, 2022, 09:59:49 AMand that it's just a small symptom of this ultimate evil

the whole thing's like a nightmare fair alright
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 04, 2022, 10:37:22 AM
can we not speculate on how his kids feel please?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 04, 2022, 10:50:47 AM
Great job taking over from madhair, Poirots.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: buttgammon on May 04, 2022, 10:54:02 AM
Quote from: Dr Rock on May 04, 2022, 10:50:47 AMGreat job taking over from madhair, Poirots.

Agreed! Stellar work. Managing the opening posts of these (scarily frequent) new threads must be daunting considering the sheer amount of background links you have to put in at this stage.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 04, 2022, 11:29:15 AM
Quote from: Dog Botherer on May 03, 2022, 10:28:48 PMWe must secure the existence of our people and a future for healthy breast tissue
just to say this is literally the reason for American critics pulling the "irreversible damage" angle on trans men and the "pro-life" movement.

White women are breeding stock and must not have access to abortion or remove their uteruses
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 04, 2022, 11:34:36 AM
Adoption industry looks forward to influx of heathy american babies to farm out.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: chip on May 04, 2022, 12:06:23 PM
Quote from: buttgammon on May 04, 2022, 10:54:02 AMAgreed! Stellar work. Managing the opening posts of these (scarily frequent) new threads must be daunting considering the sheer amount of background links you have to put in at this stage.

Mostly just copy and pasting, innit. And firing off a few quick line updates since the last thread.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 04, 2022, 12:18:14 PM
Yeah alright jeez.

I'm sorry you had to see that Poirot.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 04, 2022, 12:25:28 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on May 04, 2022, 09:59:49 AMand that it's just a small symptom of this ultimate evil

Quote from: pigamus on May 04, 2022, 10:31:04 AMthe whole thing's like a nightmare fair alright
Let's go to Blackpool!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: pigamus on May 04, 2022, 12:29:35 PM
Was going to lead a small delegation to ask chess champion Magnus Carlsen for help in all this but I don't think I'll bother now
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: madhair60 on May 04, 2022, 01:46:22 PM
Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 04, 2022, 10:37:22 AMcan we not speculate on how his kids feel please?

yeah, I reckon it would make them feel bad
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 04, 2022, 02:24:38 PM
Quote from: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 04, 2022, 12:18:14 PMYeah alright jeez.

I'm sorry you had to see that Poirot.
Hey, they're not wrong!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 04, 2022, 02:28:43 PM
Cheers for the thread @Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse and anti-cheers to Graham Linehan.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: imitationleather on May 04, 2022, 02:29:42 PM
What are the chances? My mum's sister was an alky and we used to call her Aunty Cheers.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 04, 2022, 02:32:49 PM
Quote from: Zetetic on May 04, 2022, 07:40:14 AMIf you want to help, beyond asking "why isn't Glinner talking about this?", consider donating to or otherwise supporting the Abortion Support Network (https://www.asn.org.uk/).

The link is appreciated; the tone of smug superiority less so (although you phrased it more politely in this thread than the last, at least).

There's also Planned Parenthood (https://www.weareplannedparenthoodaction.org/onlineactions/6iOI0_HnUUmPu_6_SRgayg2?sourceid=1006442&ms=4NALz2100K1N1A&gclsrc=aw.ds&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3ey-jPrF9wIVY2pvBB1LCgjmEAAYASAAEgIAVPD_BwE) in the US.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: madhair60 on May 04, 2022, 03:04:48 PM
Quote from: Mister Six on May 04, 2022, 02:32:49 PMThere's also Planned Parenthood (https://www.weareplannedparenthoodaction.org/onlineactions/6iOI0_HnUUmPu_6_SRgayg2?sourceid=1006442&ms=4NALz2100K1N1A&gclsrc=aw.ds&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3ey-jPrF9wIVY2pvBB1LCgjmEAAYASAAEgIAVPD_BwE) in the US.

smug cunt
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 04, 2022, 03:20:20 PM
Hey, I'm also a superior cunt.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 04, 2022, 04:59:40 PM
Quote from: Mister Six on May 04, 2022, 03:20:20 PMHey, I'm also a superior cunt.
i think the technical term is labia majora.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 04, 2022, 05:25:25 PM
Labia maxima, motherfucker.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: pigamus on May 04, 2022, 05:58:14 PM
Quote from: imitationleather on May 04, 2022, 02:29:42 PMWhat are the chances? My mum's sister was an alky and we used to call her Aunty Cheers.

I had one of them, looked like George Wendt
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 04, 2022, 06:00:08 PM
The wheels seem to have fallen off the "Respect My Sex" campaign, with elections tomorrow you'd have thought the question that everyone is asking "what is a woman" to have been ramped up for Tory support by the Daily Mail, but they haven't mentioned it since 25/4 and that was only in relation to a JK Rowling article.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPNbLghWYAImzKD.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: damien on May 04, 2022, 06:30:19 PM
Yeah I was looking at the front pages of the main papers for the last few days and there hasn't been one single Trans story on any of them. So much for 'the most significant female movement since the Suffragettes'.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 04, 2022, 06:34:33 PM
But at least Mayo Floorsharter got her photos in the newspaper again. And maybe that's the point.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 04, 2022, 06:38:29 PM
I think their thunder has been stolen a bit by the Roe Vs Wade stuff in America, which threaten real hard-won rights being taken away and show how pathetic their little crusade and hyperbolic words really are
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 04, 2022, 06:50:03 PM
Quote from: phantom_power on May 04, 2022, 06:38:29 PMI think their thunder has been stolen a bit by the Roe Vs Wade stuff in America, which threaten real hard-won rights being taken away and show how pathetic their little crusade and hyperbolic words really are
And they're more concerned about inclusive language than Roe v Wade being overturned. I guess it doesn't help that it's their lovely conservative friends doing it.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 04, 2022, 06:59:33 PM
Also 'SEX MATTERS' gives the impression they are fighting to get people shagging more.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: buttgammon on May 04, 2022, 07:09:13 PM
Sex Matters sounds like one of those dodgy shops with no windows that you see on an arterial road in a provincial city.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mindy Simmons on May 04, 2022, 07:35:38 PM
I had a weird dream Graham had a new show, and it was animated like an 8-bit video game. He's in my fucking dreams now.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Alberon on May 04, 2022, 07:37:15 PM
It's about the only place he's ever going to get anything commissioned again.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: petril on May 04, 2022, 07:41:33 PM
Quote from: Alberon on May 04, 2022, 07:37:15 PMIt's about the only place he's ever going to get anything commissioned again.

yeah, the time period when 8-bit video games were the cutting edge of technology
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: pigamus on May 04, 2022, 07:52:44 PM
Quote from: damien on May 04, 2022, 06:30:19 PMYeah I was looking at the front pages of the main papers for the last few days and there hasn't been one single Trans story on any of them. So much for 'the most significant female movement since the Suffragettes'.

Is it because we're in purdah, and their photo is election-y?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Juan K Perros on May 04, 2022, 08:07:29 PM
Quote from: Mindy Simmons on May 04, 2022, 07:35:38 PMI had a weird dream Graham had a new show, and it was animated like an 8-bit video game. He's in my fucking dreams now.

Jet Set Utter Willy
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Jumblegraws on May 04, 2022, 08:31:39 PM
Quote from: Mindy Simmons on May 04, 2022, 07:35:38 PMI had a weird dream Graham had a new show, and it was animated like an 8-bit video game. He's in my fucking dreams now.
A relatively rare treat for me in the Glinner threads is people reporting their Bananadreams, if only for the reassuring "not just me, then" feeling.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 04, 2022, 09:29:39 PM
I knew that Twitter had comparatively poor numbers, and yes, the data is two years old (though I doubt it's changed significantly), but you look at this chart and realise how pathetic it is to be so obsessed with being on Twitter that you torpedo your whole life.

(https://i.ibb.co/bBhKhjK/9-E41-ED61-5-CB2-4470-BAC5-C73544-F1736-B.webp)

Just... have some fucking self respect man.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Elfking on May 04, 2022, 09:54:24 PM
Daily Mail only care about transphobia in the same way they are peddling the bollocks about "beergate", as a way to attack the Labour Party and the left.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 04, 2022, 10:12:46 PM
Yep. It's not the fact Keith had a bevvy. It's the fact someone they don't like had a bevvy.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dissolute ocelot on May 04, 2022, 10:31:32 PM
Quote from: FalknerHinton on May 04, 2022, 09:29:39 PMI knew that Twitter had comparatively poor numbers, and yes, the data is two years old (though I doubt it's changed significantly), but you look at this chart and realise how pathetic it is to be so obsessed with being on Twitter that you torpedo your whole life.

(https://i.ibb.co/bBhKhjK/9-E41-ED61-5-CB2-4470-BAC5-C73544-F1736-B.webp)

Just... have some fucking self respect man.
Figures from Jan 2022 (https://www.statista.com/statistics/272014/global-social-networks-ranked-by-number-of-users/) have FB at 2910 million, Twitter at 436 million, still below Pinterest and Snapchat. From Jan 2022 (https://datareportal.com/reports/digital-2022-favourite-social-platforms), 3.3% of social media users say Twitter is their favourite social media platform (which seems to include chat), against 14.8% for Insta and 14.3% for FB.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 04, 2022, 10:33:42 PM
The Blue Ticks and trolls love it so much they don't realise the audience pissed off years ago.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: somersetchris on May 04, 2022, 11:07:56 PM
Quote from: dissolute ocelot on May 04, 2022, 10:31:32 PMFigures from Jan 2022 (https://www.statista.com/statistics/272014/global-social-networks-ranked-by-number-of-users/) have FB at 2910 million, Twitter at 436 million, still below Pinterest and Snapchat. From Jan 2022 (https://datareportal.com/reports/digital-2022-favourite-social-platforms), 3.3% of social media users say Twitter is their favourite social media platform (which seems to include chat), against 14.8% for Insta and 14.3% for FB.

It is noteworthy that Twitter has significantly fewer users than other platforms, but that chart is not to scale, is it? The block showing 400 is twice as big as the one showing 326. I know it's a small thing but misleading charts piss me off, like the recent one showing Tesla stock falling off a cliff - but because the scale was 800 to 1000, and didn't start at zero. The graph made it look like the stock was worthless.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ferris on May 05, 2022, 12:38:33 AM
Quote from: Dr Rock on May 04, 2022, 10:33:42 PMThe Blue Ticks and trolls love it so much they don't realise the audience pissed off years ago.

It's due an absolute reckoning. They've got in shit in the past for including "automated" (bot) accounts in their usage stats, and I genuinely know 2 people who actually use it. I've said it before, but same for Facebook - nobody uses it. You can't claim billions of active users if it's a ghost town.

They still have value as platforms, but nothing like the imagined value they have now. Maybe not as much as they had 10 years ago - people are sick of them (though google is likely invincible at this point). It's all about selling data - someone not using your service means you don't collect their data so you're fucked. Everyone uses google (and will continue to do so) for searches, and their advertising business is sound.

I've sold all my tech stocks (and don't own google for ethical reasons) and I'd be yelling all this from the rooftops if I was a hedge fund. These things are bloated and ripe for a collapse if the wrong board report gets released...

By 2025 fb and twitter will be worth 20% of what they are now, a similar fall to MySpace. I'm convinced that's why the twitter board sold up - probably couldn't believe their luck that some dipshit chud turned up with more money than conventional business sense.

Bookmark it.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Elfking on May 05, 2022, 04:38:09 AM
Quote from: FalknerHinton on May 04, 2022, 09:29:39 PMI knew that Twitter had comparatively poor numbers, and yes, the data is two years old (though I doubt it's changed significantly), but you look at this chart and realise how pathetic it is to be so obsessed with being on Twitter that you torpedo your whole life.

(https://i.ibb.co/bBhKhjK/9-E41-ED61-5-CB2-4470-BAC5-C73544-F1736-B.webp)

Just... have some fucking self respect man.

Someone just paid $43 billion for that.

Twitter has never been able to make money. It's platform is really, really difficult to monetise and most attempts in the past have failed miserably. The "business genius" Elon Musk cannot hope to ever make money back, it's literally all vanity for him.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 05, 2022, 05:39:41 AM
Quote from: Ferris on May 05, 2022, 12:38:33 AMBy 2025 fb and twitter will be worth 20% of what they are now, a similar fall to MySpace. I'm convinced that's why the twitter board sold up - probably couldn't believe their luck that some dipshit chud turned up with more money than conventional business sense.

Didn't they have to sell up? I thought it was a bear hug situation, although I haven't paid much attention as I try to minimise my exposure to Musk.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Zetetic on May 05, 2022, 09:06:53 AM
Pleasing to see a sensible reflection on inclusive language in The Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/05/language-maternity-trans-parents-parenthood-gender

(Edit: Including touching on the double-edged nature of "women" and similar terms in maternity services.)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 05, 2022, 10:15:49 AM
That's a really good piece and very balanced. I just hope to never see the term 'birthing bodies' ever again
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 05, 2022, 10:32:44 AM
They're working on it. It will probably evolve to 'Hey you! Got a bollock? Come this way'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 05, 2022, 10:59:42 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/MADxfP8.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: somersetchris on May 05, 2022, 11:33:20 AM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 05, 2022, 10:59:42 AM(https://i.imgur.com/MADxfP8.jpg)

Obviously it's not okay to get up and attack someone on stage because it could have been far worse, *but* the take I've seen a lot of that 'you should never get up on stage because comedians should be protected but lol look at this bloke getting beaten up' is a very strange one.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 05, 2022, 11:33:38 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/NDcvSg3.png)

He says as he logs into his other account to do exactly this
(bornAgeDie is Sian)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 05, 2022, 11:40:51 AM
I don't get why he's still using oliophi as there is no engagement, might as well open up GL7 and go back to O if that account gets suspended.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 05, 2022, 11:43:49 AM
There's still deniability there especially as his mate who owns the account has said 'it's not Graham's account, it's my alt'. His mate who owns the account is a mug for allowing him to use the account and say things like 'stick it up your arse'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on May 05, 2022, 11:55:21 AM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 05, 2022, 11:40:51 AMI don't get why he's still using oliophi as there is no engagement, might as well open up GL7 and go back to O if that account gets suspended.

just a substitute for that ragdoll game now his son has changed his steam account password
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 05, 2022, 11:59:33 AM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 05, 2022, 11:43:49 AMThere's still deniability there

Yeah, that's a good point
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 05, 2022, 12:14:14 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 05, 2022, 11:59:33 AMYeah, that's a good point

Everyone knows it's him, he knows we know, he has outed it as his sock god knows how many times and I think he gets a thrill out of that as well as the deniability. He can say whatever he wants and his mug mate will still say 'that's not Graham, it's my alt account'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Jumblegraws on May 05, 2022, 12:22:37 PM
Quote from: FalknerHinton on May 04, 2022, 09:29:39 PMI knew that Twitter had comparatively poor numbers, and yes, the data is two years old (though I doubt it's changed significantly), but you look at this chart and realise how pathetic it is to be so obsessed with being on Twitter that you torpedo your whole life.

(https://i.ibb.co/bBhKhjK/9-E41-ED61-5-CB2-4470-BAC5-C73544-F1736-B.webp)

Just... have some fucking self respect man.
How do the Glindr stats compare?

No but seriously, I remember about Glindr every few months and wonder if there's still active users over there. Is there?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mindy Simmons on May 05, 2022, 01:47:48 PM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on May 04, 2022, 08:31:39 PMA relatively rare treat for me in the Glinner threads is people reporting their Bananadreams, if only for the reassuring "not just me, then" feeling.

It's a weird phenomenon among us Banana-cunt Watchers!

I'm annoyed my subconscious commissioned him. :P
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: racecar bed indy 500 on May 05, 2022, 01:49:48 PM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on May 05, 2022, 12:22:37 PMHow do the Glindr stats compare?

No but seriously, I remember about Glindr every few months and wonder if there's still active users over there. Is there?

Sian, probably.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 05, 2022, 01:59:32 PM
I believe Elon's starting bid was estimated at "What the fuck is Glindr?"
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ayasakura on May 05, 2022, 02:24:10 PM
Oh my GOD

(https://i.ibb.co/0JpDvyd/Screenshot-20220505-142011-Twitter.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/2K4t35C/Screenshot-20220505-141916-Twitter.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: DenzilHolles on May 05, 2022, 02:43:10 PM
What/where is the 'chat' referrered to in that? I can see the twitter account but still not sure what it means exactly.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Shaxberd on May 05, 2022, 02:43:45 PM
I'm out of the loop with this one - which court case is this, and how long have court cases had livestream with chat?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 05, 2022, 02:47:22 PM
I have no clue what's going on either
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 05, 2022, 02:54:29 PM
Basically, you can livestream the Allison Bailey tribunal, but you had to register beforehand to get the link.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 05, 2022, 03:02:59 PM
And GCs are in the chat with names like ITerfalldaylong and No/Ta (clown/clownself). Embarrassing
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ayasakura on May 05, 2022, 03:03:27 PM
Yeah, it's Alison Bailey's trial. Same person pointed out that they're allowing chat because they're sharing evidence bundles through it and also using it as a public gallery but I reckon they might reconsider this in future...
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 05, 2022, 03:14:25 PM
We're told this is a landmark case. That half a million was needed to fight it. That it could be one of the cases that will 'peak' the world and bring Stonewall to its knees. And here they are larking about in the comments with juvenile nicknames
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Pimhole on May 05, 2022, 03:15:50 PM
And they're doing this WHILST Bailey is on the stand trying to make out like she's not transphobic and it's not about hating trans people. Hilarious.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 05, 2022, 03:19:10 PM
I know, they really aren't helping her at all. Brain worms so advanced that they can't see how this looks to neutral people
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mindy Simmons on May 05, 2022, 03:26:35 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 05, 2022, 03:14:25 PMWe're told this is a landmark case. That half a million was needed to fight it. That it could be one of the cases that will 'peak' the world and bring Stonewall to its knees. And here they are larking about in the comments with juvenile nicknames

It really shows what pathetic little shitheads they are at heart. I've met schoolyard bullies with more maturity ffs.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 05, 2022, 03:28:19 PM
What does everyone predict the outcome of this case will be?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 05, 2022, 03:37:04 PM
And they claim to be the sensible ones who are always polite and friendly.

Does anyone know what Bailley's collapse and hospitalisation was about? Presumably she is up and about and in court now?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dog Botherer on May 05, 2022, 03:37:18 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 05, 2022, 03:28:19 PMWhat does everyone predict the outcome of this case will be?

hanged by the neck until dead
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 05, 2022, 03:46:41 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 05, 2022, 03:28:19 PMWhat does everyone predict the outcome of this case will be?

No idea, leave it to the judge to wade through.

There's just so much going on.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Jumblegraws on May 05, 2022, 03:47:37 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 05, 2022, 03:14:25 PMWe're told this is a landmark case. That half a million was needed to fight it. That it could be one of the cases that will 'peak' the world and bring Stonewall to its knees. And here they are larking about in the comments with juvenile nicknames
It was on the front page of BBC News yesterday, which I thought was bizarre even by their standards. If the media weren't so determinedly transphobic, it would just be a non-story about some dickhead, bigoted lawyer chancing it an employment tribunal.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 05, 2022, 03:48:55 PM
Quote from: phantom_power on May 05, 2022, 03:37:04 PMDoes anyone know what Bailley's collapse and hospitalisation was about?

cough cough *extra £100k on the crowdfunder* cough cough
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 05, 2022, 03:50:21 PM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on May 05, 2022, 03:47:37 PMIt was on the front page of BBC News yesterday, which I thought was bizarre even by their standards. If the media weren't so determinedly transphobic, it would just be a non-story about some dickhead, bigoted lawyer chancing it an employment tribunal.

It just seems like such a pointless waste of time
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: drummersaredeaf on May 05, 2022, 03:51:33 PM
Said it before and I'll say it again, there's rarely anything landmark about employment tribunal cases. I've had a skim through her statement and lots of it seems to be utterly irrelevant when the complaint is that the employer investigated her for clashing with an external scheme to which they are signed.

ETs are capricious, occasionally flanked by lay members (some cunt from the Better Business Bureau perhaps), and not the grounds for establishing the definitive 'truth' for what passes in workplaces. A colleague refers to tribunal judges as part-time fascists on account of their perpetual sympathy towards the employer. Siding with Bailey here undermines any concept of managers being able to exercise their prerogative in terms of using policies that they have either designed or adopted. I expect 'we take expert opinion from outside on certain topics and where there are clashes with those policies we always investigate' is entirely adequate to cover their arses. It doesn't even especially matter if the policy is nonsense as long as it's consistent really. And as far as I can tell from her crowdfunder and skimming that statement, she's only really faced investigation and no penalty as a result.

But even with all that said, it doesn't matter what the outcome is in terms of an ideological truth. They are inconsistent, and not designed to make decisions on matters of law, just matters of fact based on what has been presented. She might get a pay out and it might be large, but it's not a matter of some sort of cosmic ruling that gives carte blanche to ignore Stonewall in every workplace. They all went about that 'protected in law' thing about GC beliefs, but it's only protected in the same way that someone can't be sacked for being a member of the BNP. 'Genuine political belief' is the measure, and that's fairly broad. It doesn't mean there won't be contexts where someone gets sacked for saying migrant boats should be shot and the ET deny the claim, or another where it's said and doesn't even get to HR.

So odd to me that this has become the terrain for culture wars.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 05, 2022, 03:55:28 PM
@drummersaredeaf thanks for the very detailed response
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: QDRPHNC on May 05, 2022, 04:15:49 PM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on May 05, 2022, 03:47:37 PMIt was on the front page of BBC News yesterday, which I thought was bizarre even by their standards. If the media weren't so determinedly transphobic, it would just be a non-story about some dickhead, bigoted lawyer chancing it an employment tribunal.

The future of women hangs in the balance. Like, literally the future of women. All the women will be gone. It could not be more important, which is why Graham picked No/Ta (clown/clownself) for the occasion.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mindy Simmons on May 05, 2022, 04:20:05 PM
Congratulations on admitting you are indeed an utter clown, Glinney-poos!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: drummersaredeaf on May 05, 2022, 04:20:31 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 05, 2022, 03:55:28 PM@drummersaredeaf thanks for the very detailed response

Or boring and muddled!

To make a parallel point about a contentious political issue, you could be sacked from a job because of your views on Israel - assuming you vocalise them in a way that made colleagues uncomfortable, like being told to stop bringing leaflets in and continuing - or because it clashed with the employer's advocacy for example. Or even more parallel to this case, they have adopted an external definition.

In that case you might get a token payout, or even a bigger one in certain circumstances, but by no means is it a ruling on the validity of the state of Israel.

These ETs are a legacy of an attempt to disrupt trade union power in the 1970s by individualising and disrupting employee grievances from being managed collectively and informally. They're set up to occasionally compensate hard-done-to employees, and absolutely not to stop managers running businesses how they want to.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 05, 2022, 04:21:24 PM
They really do think that being a transphobic bigot is a protected characteristic don't they?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 05, 2022, 04:29:37 PM
Quote from: drummersaredeaf on May 05, 2022, 04:20:31 PMOr boring and muddled!

Not at all, both very interesting

Thanks
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 05, 2022, 04:32:38 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 05, 2022, 04:29:37 PMNot at all, both very interesting

Thanks

Seconded!

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 05, 2022, 04:41:46 PM
This is so weird, I'm re-watching Father Ted for the first time since I learned about the Bananacuntification. I thought I'd be more uncomfortable with it, but it's still hilarious.

The weird thing is, the episode where they turn The Holy Stone into a class 2 relic, one of the Bishops is a raving, monomaniacal loon who keeps banging on about media bias written by bearded lefties. He's treated as one of the villains (hence why Father Jack rams The Holy Stone up his arse because he's annoying him so much). It's so weird that BC has become that Bishop.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 05, 2022, 04:46:20 PM
It's so sad what he has become and how he was tanked his own legacy and reputation
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 05, 2022, 04:49:29 PM
The judge's comment of "I don't know what it's about but it sounds mocking" is a good summary of how the average person perceives all of Graham Linehan's output for the past 5 years, if they're even aware of him at all anymore.

I follow these threads and I can barely comprehend half of what the bananas cunt is raving about.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 05, 2022, 05:01:55 PM
I'll never forget his line 'make sure you peak your family over the turkey this Christmas'. It was a stark reminder how ranting about this stuff sounds to people who are not engaged with it all. Imagine sitting down to Christmas dinner and a relative mouthing off about transing children and healthy breast tissue
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ayasakura on May 05, 2022, 05:02:30 PM
Bad day for terfs at court:

https://www.39essex.com/a-victory-for-gillick-competence/ (https://www.39essex.com/a-victory-for-gillick-competence/)
QuoteThe Supreme Court has refused Quincy  Bell's application for permission to appeal in the matter of Bell v Tavistock – a challenge to Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust's Gender Identity Development Service – "GIDS" – and its practice of referring patients under the age of 18 for prescription of puberty-blocking treatment.

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 05, 2022, 05:02:40 PM
There's going to be an angry banana around tonight.

(https://i.imgur.com/72MmHCd.jpg)

Edit: Haha, beat me by 10 secs @Ayasakura
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ayasakura on May 05, 2022, 05:10:33 PM
Hehehe, the more joy at their failure the better :D
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: QDRPHNC on May 05, 2022, 05:16:05 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/yJaxDCl.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Elfking on May 05, 2022, 05:19:10 PM
To the shock of probably no one here a large study has been conducted and found that children who say they want to transition OVERWHELMINGLY do so or continue to want to do so.

(https://i.imgur.com/ihC2Ijr.png)

Link to the tweet: https://twitter.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1521875928317669377
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: pandadeath on May 05, 2022, 05:52:09 PM
They'll only twist those statistics as proof of the long lasting damage TRA grooming has on children - excusing it as brainwashing rather than Gender Affirming healthcare doing what it's supposed to do
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Jumblegraws on May 05, 2022, 07:14:07 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 05, 2022, 05:02:40 PMThere's going to be an angry banana around tonight.
I don't know when the last time he mentioned Bell was, could've been this morning for all I know, but I would genuinely be unsurprised to find out he'd forgotten all about her. Not in a convenient loss of interest way (which from what I can tell is the approach being taken by all the GC figureheads who lionised her), but a genuine difficulty in recalling what her story was, such is the state of his banana-frittered brain.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mindy Simmons on May 05, 2022, 07:14:39 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on May 05, 2022, 04:41:46 PMThis is so weird, I'm re-watching Father Ted for the first time since I learned about the Bananacuntification. I thought I'd be more uncomfortable with it, but it's still hilarious.

The weird thing is, the episode where they turn The Holy Stone into a class 2 relic, one of the Bishops is a raving, monomaniacal loon who keeps banging on about media bias written by bearded lefties. He's treated as one of the villains (hence why Father Jack rams The Holy Stone up his arse because he's annoying him so much). It's so weird that BC has become that Bishop.

I thought the same - how weird it is seeing the show after he's apparently turned into one of its villains in real life.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on May 05, 2022, 07:21:28 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on May 05, 2022, 04:41:46 PMThis is so weird, I'm re-watching Father Ted for the first time since I learned about the Bananacuntification. I thought I'd be more uncomfortable with it, but it's still hilarious.

The weird thing is, the episode where they turn The Holy Stone into a class 2 relic, one of the Bishops is a raving, monomaniacal loon who keeps banging on about media bias written by bearded lefties. He's treated as one of the villains (hence why Father Jack rams The Holy Stone up his arse because he's annoying him so much). It's so weird that BC has become that Bishop.

Has Graham changed, or has the media changed?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on May 05, 2022, 07:22:38 PM
Sorry I just remembered it's Graham who has changed
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 05, 2022, 09:26:01 PM
If I knew photoshop I'd do an image of Father Jack ramming the holy banana up BC's arse.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 05, 2022, 09:31:22 PM
It was the prestigious Radio Academy Aria awards on Tuesday night and Stephen Nolan and his Stonewall series were nominated for four awards.

This was the series that was going to peak the world, so let's see how it went

(https://i.ibb.co/F3YwYct/EA1-E63-E5-B651-4635-86-B6-CE09608-E79-EE.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/QK5Q7rb/AF0-A6-BF2-4280-4-A44-AB9-D-C28-E43-A6-F1-AE.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/VDWhZFy/0-B65-E201-2363-488-B-A386-7651-DB87-AA30.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/2h2MZPN/9-E1-DA61-C-2-A14-4235-9-B2-A-27-E274468-FAB.jpg)

Oh dear.


Tl;dr - World remains unpeaked
(https://i.ibb.co/Pjnz60J/F62-BEDF7-85-B7-46-F8-8308-14-DD4-FBF8427.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 05, 2022, 10:03:20 PM
Yeah but the Transphobes did win BEST SPEECH PRESENTER
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 05, 2022, 10:25:37 PM
Quote from: jobotic on May 05, 2022, 10:03:20 PMYeah but the Transphobes did win BEST SPEECH PRESENTER

They don't like EB anymore, she was too hard on Maya Forstater and Rosie Duffield for their taste.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 05, 2022, 10:46:15 PM
god that fucking nonsense in a chatroom for a court case they're allegedly invested in

every time I read TERF shenanigans I end up miming bashing myself in the face with a blunt instrument
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 05, 2022, 10:52:22 PM
The grown ups are talking.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 05, 2022, 11:16:32 PM
Quote from: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 05, 2022, 10:52:22 PMThe grown ups are talking.

Haha
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 05, 2022, 11:38:54 PM
Barnett getting gold is dismal girlboss shit though. considering she scoffed at the women trafficked by her father that paid for her education that got her a leg up into the BBC to basically be a reactionary piece of shit
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 06, 2022, 12:42:04 AM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on May 05, 2022, 07:14:07 PMI don't know when the last time he mentioned Bell was, could've been this morning for all I know, but I would genuinely be unsurprised to find out he'd forgotten all about her.

Apparently one of the well known transphobes who glommed onto her also seduced and really took advantage of Bell. Can't remember the source, think it was that twitter space thing where Stella O'Malley defended Arty, and generally caused loads of irritation while clearly having no idea she was doing so.

Edit: Think it was mentioned by other transphobes after the disastrous LGB Alliance conference, actually.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mindy Simmons on May 06, 2022, 02:29:28 AM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 06, 2022, 12:42:04 AMApparently one of the well known transphobes who glommed onto her also seduced and really took advantage of Bell. Can't remember the source, think it was that twitter space thing where Stella O'Malley defended Arty, and generally caused loads of irritation while clearly having no idea she was doing so.

Edit: Think it was mentioned by other transphobes after the disastrous LGB Alliance conference, actually.

Interesting. I had a feeling something like this was going on.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 06, 2022, 02:38:59 AM
Quote from: idunnosomename on May 05, 2022, 11:38:54 PMBarnett getting gold is dismal girlboss shit though. considering she scoffed at the women trafficked by her father that paid for her education that got her a leg up into the BBC to basically be a reactionary piece of shit
I just had a fascinating and unpleasant crash course in Emma Barnett as a result of this comment. Christ's fat cock.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 06, 2022, 07:54:10 AM
Glinner is now feeling fully vindicated after the Sex Matters local elections campaign lead to a collapse of the Green and Labour vote in his head.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: buttgammon on May 06, 2022, 08:50:19 AM
Quote from: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 06, 2022, 02:38:59 AMI just had a fascinating and unpleasant crash course in Emma Barnett as a result of this comment. Christ's fat cock.

It's disgusting, isn't it? How this person feels she's in any position to talk about women's rights when she owes her privileged position to parents who gravely violated those rights is beyond me.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: king_tubby on May 06, 2022, 08:51:18 AM
DO YOU WANT TO NATIONALISE SAUSAGES?????
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 06, 2022, 08:53:46 AM
Just grief-scrolling through the SGB and noticed this:

(https://i.imgur.com/3pfg2qO.png)

He literally does not care about any attribute a person might have, it's solely down to whether they agree with him on this one single issue.  He is himself pro-abortion, but because he sees the chance for a quick dunk, he'll shit on people just because they think trans people have the right to exist.

What a fucking banana.  I wonder if he's ever participated in a team sport?

Also, what is he fucking on about now:
(https://i.imgur.com/6bK8N46.png)

Does anyone know why 'white feminism' is some sort of gotcha for Ron?

Quote from: king_tubby on May 06, 2022, 08:51:18 AMDO YOU WANT TO NATIONALISE SAUSAGES?????

Sweep does (https://twitter.com/Sootyandco/status/1519210486859849728)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 06, 2022, 09:24:57 AM
Quote from: Sonny_Jim on May 06, 2022, 08:53:46 AMAlso, what is he fucking on about now:

(https://i.imgur.com/6bK8N46.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/4Kxj5xu.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 06, 2022, 09:27:45 AM
Any movement where "beclowning" is used so often is not a legitimate movement
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 06, 2022, 09:34:04 AM
So who is that in the hoody?  Sorry for being thick.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 06, 2022, 10:01:44 AM
Quote from: Sonny_Jim on May 06, 2022, 09:34:04 AMSo who is that in the hoody?  Sorry for being thick.

I may be wrong, but I think it's just meant to be "generic-Twitter-leftie-in-their-early-thirties".

Missing the beard, though.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 06, 2022, 10:07:31 AM
He's rolling his eyes at someone having LGBT in their bio. I can't believe the level of brain worms, he will lose the plot if anyone calls him transphobic but he reacts to even the faintest hint of people being trans supportive
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 06, 2022, 10:09:43 AM
Graham Linehan, the whitest male in existence, continues to curl out his garbled thoughts on race and feminism.

What's his motive? Pure altruism and supporting others, of course! Oh no wait he just wants back a social media account on a dying platform because the teacher took it off him because he was hitting the other kids with it but it's not faaaair.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 06, 2022, 10:29:57 AM
Does anyone remember his furious reaction to a trans woman appearing in the Netflix show The Queens Gambit? And he has the nerve to object to being called anti trans!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 06, 2022, 10:32:44 AM
Oh wow, a few token black TERFs. Funny how the majority of women at JKR's big lunch, and at all these TERF gatherings, are white. Like Graham.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 06, 2022, 10:33:32 AM
Quote from: Sonny_Jim on May 06, 2022, 08:53:46 AMAlso, what is he fucking on about now:
(https://i.imgur.com/6bK8N46.png)

Does anyone know why 'white feminism' is some sort of gotcha for Ron?

I guess he was wanting to mock the idea that "terfism"/"gender criticism"/transphobia is often described as being the preserve of white, ageing middle class women, and then used Ronson to do so. Dunno if he's ever made such a comment.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 06, 2022, 10:36:25 AM
How could they do this to Rosie?

They're forcing me to vote Tory

(https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/279161572_695023631748377_2325589885625790110_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-6&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=AfJtxsMh0BcAX-ZOZjT&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=03_AVIH4PXKuLs9GunCqC1Dc2ZdW78tiNEbI35iZ9PAmLp7jQ&oe=62991A6A)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 06, 2022, 11:13:35 AM
Quote from: jobotic on May 06, 2022, 10:36:25 AM(https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/279161572_695023631748377_2325589885625790110_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-6&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=AfJtxsMh0BcAX-ZOZjT&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=03_AVIH4PXKuLs9GunCqC1Dc2ZdW78tiNEbI35iZ9PAmLp7jQ&oe=62991A6A)
(https://i.imgur.com/smIFhn4.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 06, 2022, 11:16:47 AM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 06, 2022, 10:33:32 AMDunno if he's ever made such a comment.
Ah ok, I was wondering if Jon had said anything along that lines, but I guess it's just leftover bile from Graham after the Mich Fest documentary.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mippy on May 06, 2022, 11:27:38 AM
Does anyone outwith Glindr and Mumsnet even give a fig about this tribunal? What are they hoping will result from it? Mass peakening? Maxine Peakening?

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 06, 2022, 11:30:39 AM
Graham's got a dartboard of his enemies on his wall he throws at when he needs someone to blame - Ron Jonson, Frankie Boyle, Stewart Lee etc.

His brain is just Madlibs at this point
"I'm mad about (INSERT REACTIONARY OUTRAGE STORY HERE) and you don't hear (INSERT GRAHAM ENEMY HERE) talking about it. pronouns beard handmaiden"
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 06, 2022, 11:32:57 AM
Quote from: mippy on May 06, 2022, 11:27:38 AMDoes anyone outwith Glindr and Mumsnet even give a fig about this tribunal? What are they hoping will result from it? Mass peakening? Maxine Peakening?

The Great Tide Turnening of 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022, definitely
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: petril on May 06, 2022, 12:10:40 PM
Quote from: retsuza on May 06, 2022, 11:30:39 AMGraham's got a dartboard of his enemies on his wall he throws at when he needs someone to blame - Ron Jonson, Frankie Boyle, Stewart Lee etc.

His brain is just Madlibs at this point
"I'm mad about (INSERT REACTIONARY OUTRAGE STORY HERE) and you don't hear (INSERT GRAHAM ENEMY HERE) talking about it. pronouns beard handmaiden"

I like to imagine he's not put it up, he's so angry he just throws the dartboard at pictures on the wall
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 06, 2022, 12:11:49 PM
There's a Metro article about trans people being frightened to use toilets because of transphobia. I'm sure that'll go down well with the TERF crowd.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 06, 2022, 12:31:32 PM
Quote from: petril on May 06, 2022, 12:10:40 PMI like to imagine he's not put it up, he's so angry he just throws the dartboard at pictures on the wall

'Pin the Tail on the Enemy' - Linehan spinning around in his flat blindfolded, getting so confused and agitated he stabs the pin into himself and blames trans activists.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 06, 2022, 12:33:04 PM
I can imagine this causing some issues in the future and being a homophobic flashpoint, radfems are very much against gay men using surrogates.

(https://i.imgur.com/kdmi0l8.jpg)

Not sure what's going on with the 'it's' thing as it seems a combination of weird phrasing and a typo.


(https://i.imgur.com/AszC07k.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: chip on May 06, 2022, 12:47:50 PM
Can't it just be good old-fashioned misogyny?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Pimhole on May 06, 2022, 12:51:08 PM
I can't imagine Jon Ronson ever using the phrase "white feminism" disparagingly, willing to be proved wrong but it's too much like the culture wars he's so desperate to prove he's above.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: damien on May 06, 2022, 01:00:40 PM
Ben Shapiro has been having an anti Trans meltdown for the past week or so; but as far as I can see there've been no retweets from 'Oliophi'. I wonder if Ben Shapiro is where he draws the line.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 06, 2022, 01:12:53 PM
Ben Shapiro is the mouthpiee of several billionaire ultra-conservtives who pay his astronomic wages.He's a puppet.

https://legacy.tyt.com/2018/07/31/ben-shapiro-owns-the-libs-but-who-owns-him/

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 06, 2022, 01:14:20 PM
He knows Shaprio is extremely dunkable because he's a general idiot.  Grahams been bullied enough to realise you don't hang around with the kid everyone takes the piss out of.  See all that hoo-hah about him not understanding WAP got him mercilessly ripped on, plus the Andrew Neil walking out thing, he's a joke to anyone except the far right.  So maybe he's OK with banning abortion, as long as it hurts the trans, right?  But Ben fucking Shaprio is where the line is for him.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Hope of Avalon on May 06, 2022, 01:19:38 PM
Quote from: Sonny_Jim on May 06, 2022, 01:14:20 PMHe knows Shaprio is extremely dunkable because he's a general idiot.

Evergreen
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 06, 2022, 01:29:21 PM
Can't remember the names and I'm not interested in scrolling through the 1.8k people that Oliophi follows but there was definitely some Shapiro adjacent people he followed, or maybe on an old account. I want to say Owen Benjamin is one of them but he's more of an edgy far-right than a psuedo-intellectual dipshit like Shapiro is. Dave Rubin is more similar in that aspect (although his attempts to sound smart fall way flatter) and I'm more certain about him being an Oliophi follow.

I'm still convinced in two years he'll be going on about even Trump in a devil's advocate way "at least he knows what a woman is" spiel. I'm hardly Nostramadus though when he's giving love to Desantis.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 06, 2022, 01:51:27 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 06, 2022, 11:13:35 AM(https://i.imgur.com/smIFhn4.jpg)
Oh god they're so stupid
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 06, 2022, 01:54:53 PM
"You don't even know what a woman is/DEFINE WOMAN"

What does that have to do with abortion? Abortion is the termination of a pregnancy.

More culture war bullshit and Graham Drunkarse is enabling it.

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 06, 2022, 01:56:23 PM
Quote from: Pimhole on May 06, 2022, 12:51:08 PMI can't imagine Jon Ronson ever using the phrase "white feminism" disparagingly, willing to be proved wrong but it's too much like the culture wars he's so desperate to prove he's above.

Indeed. I did vaguely wonder myself, but then you remember how much shit Stewart Lee got blamed on for his "in the pedal bin" list, and it reminds you of precisely how much shite is spouted for credulous Glincel fuckers to gobble up.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 06, 2022, 02:11:56 PM
Hey folks, it's probably a bit early to be thinking of this but if there's a thread 19[1] I'm going to consolidate some of the historical cuntery into fewer points. Like instead of listing every GBeebies appearance I'd have "Been on GB News X times" for instance. I'll still have a New Since Last Time section. Sound good? Barry if this belongs in the moderation thread please move it.


1. Of course there'll be one.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 06, 2022, 02:54:00 PM
Still slightly early days, but Respect My Sex/#LabourLosingWomen looks like it's doing really well...

(https://i.ibb.co/PMtP9zw/48110-DE1-7-B9-D-4-D94-9-FBB-2-FD6858408-AE.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/YPH4dXN/29-A47-D12-7697-4-E62-8-C9-F-42-CB3-AD195-E7.jpg)

The only party that seems to be losing here is the one the critters all claim to be voting for. Oh dear, how sad.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 06, 2022, 03:02:15 PM
Alba losing seats too!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 06, 2022, 03:09:56 PM
Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 06, 2022, 02:11:56 PMBarry if this belongs in the moderation thread please move it.


1. Of course there'll be one.

Nah that's just for moaning :-)

Thanks for the effort you and madhair have put into these threads, greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JaDanketies on May 06, 2022, 03:27:04 PM
Since Gender Critters view everything through the prism of a single issue, this election is clearly a massive show of support for "mealy-mouthed wishy-washy equivocating."
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 06, 2022, 03:32:27 PM
Quote from: JaDanketies on May 06, 2022, 03:27:04 PMSince Gender Critters view everything through the prism of a single issue, this election is clearly a massive show of support for "mealy-mouthed wishy-washy equivocating."

But but GCs are just expressing what everyone is thinking. This doesn't make sense.

Everyone's been captured!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JaDanketies on May 06, 2022, 03:35:45 PM
Quote from: jobotic on May 06, 2022, 03:32:27 PMBut but GCs are just expressing what everyone is thinking. This doesn't make sense.

Everyone's been captured!

Everyone must be so worried about the Trans Menace that they can't even be honest in the polling booth, lest they get discovered to be a cishet and summarily executed
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 06, 2022, 03:36:44 PM
Quote from: jobotic on May 06, 2022, 03:02:15 PMAlba losing seats too!

I'd almost forgotten they existed. Rather like Scottish voters then, apparently.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 06, 2022, 03:45:06 PM
Quote from: JaDanketies on May 06, 2022, 03:35:45 PMEveryone must be so worried about the Trans Menace that they can't even be honest in the polling booth, lest they get discovered to be a cishet and summarily executed

I'm sorry, I just gotta post this again now as I still can't believe the way they try to depict the Trans Menace:

Quote from: Lauren BlackMy wife was more sure than I was. I will never forget sitting on my back step with her at home. The sun was going down and I worried aloud, "what if they come for us?" She put her red hair over her shoulder in the light of the setting sun and as it flashed in her eyes she resolved, "let them come."

We came out in our own names the next day.

And might as well revist the face her wife pulled when Graham went to hug her at a protest in Belfast 😬

(https://i.postimg.cc/GhmHnPPr/Screenshot-2021-12-19-10-16-58-838-com-yandex-browser.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: canadagoose on May 06, 2022, 03:52:53 PM
Quote from: jobotic on May 06, 2022, 03:02:15 PMAlba losing seats too!
The Scottish Greens getting record numbers of seats in a good few areas, too (Edinburgh, for instance), and they're the least transphobic party with representation in GB, I reckon.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: YouCantWriteTearsJimmy on May 06, 2022, 04:26:57 PM
Quote from: FalknerHinton on May 06, 2022, 03:36:44 PMI'd almost forgotten they existed. Rather like Scottish voters then, apparently.

Amazing, under every "women won't wheesht" tweet you had massive replies of people supporting Alba. It's so surreal how warped twitter can make reality seem.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: pigamus on May 06, 2022, 04:29:45 PM
They're going to change their name to Elizabeth Duke
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Juan K Perros on May 06, 2022, 04:38:41 PM
Meanwhile in Scotland, Alba Party supporting GCs not having a good day

https://imgur.com/a/G4dcRdT (https://imgur.com/a/G4dcRdT)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JaDanketies on May 06, 2022, 04:39:06 PM
Linehan appearing in another article:

The dark reality of trans conversion therapy (https://www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/55911/1/dark-reality-of-trans-conversion-therapy-uk-terf-tory-government-ban)

QuoteJessie's parents – who she describes as "gender critical" and "anti-trans" – had told her that they'd found a therapist who was a "trans ally". Initially, she believed them. But when a friend sent her a YouTube video of her therapist chatting with Graham Linehan and making transphobic comments, she realised that she'd been subjected to conversion therapy.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: king_tubby on May 06, 2022, 04:46:12 PM
lol. lmao.

https://twitter.com/LynneKeys3/status/1522586079240540160

QuoteMhairi Hunter
@MhairiHunter
1h
Well I didn't expect today to go like this. A combination of Green & Alba votes leaves me no longer a councillor.  Pretty ironic really. Still, more time to campaign for independence. Onwards & upwards.

Lynne Keys
@LynneKeys3
Replying to
@MhairiHunter
You ignored their concerns, but women spoke with their votes. Now you have the reckoning.
3:36 PM · May 6, 2022·Twitter Web App

Mhairi Hunter
@MhairiHunter
54m
Replying to
@LynneKeys3
My replacement is a trans woman.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Juan K Perros on May 06, 2022, 04:47:05 PM
Quote from: jobotic on May 06, 2022, 03:02:15 PMAlba losing seats too!

Chris McEleny turning 5000 Twitter followers into 126 votes is fucking delicious.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 06, 2022, 05:17:47 PM
Quote from: king_tubby on May 06, 2022, 04:46:12 PMlol. lmao.

https://twitter.com/LynneKeys3/status/1522586079240540160


Fuck me that is perfect. You couldn't write comedy like that
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Buttered Ghost on May 06, 2022, 05:20:09 PM
Quote from: king_tubby on May 06, 2022, 04:46:12 PMlol. lmao.

https://twitter.com/LynneKeys3/status/1522586079240540160

(https://c.tenor.com/bC0ipzEuPrcAAAAC/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 06, 2022, 05:32:13 PM
Quote from: king_tubby on May 06, 2022, 04:46:12 PMlol. lmao.

https://twitter.com/LynneKeys3/status/1522586079240540160


(https://i.imgur.com/tA47Ub5.gif)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 06, 2022, 05:40:01 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 06, 2022, 12:33:04 PMI can imagine this causing some issues in the future and being a homophobic flashpoint, radfems are very much against gay men using surrogates.

(https://i.imgur.com/kdmi0l8.jpg)

Not sure what's going on with the 'it's' thing as it seems a combination of weird phrasing and a typo.


(https://i.imgur.com/AszC07k.jpg)

The active noun - the "it" in that sentence - is "the fact". But of course, transphobes are thick as fuck and incapable of seeing past their obsessions. If they weren't, they wouldn't be transphobes.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 06, 2022, 05:50:13 PM
Banana post

(https://i.imgur.com/w73OXV5.jpg)

Would I be right in thinking that if you are pro-surrogacy then the sex of either/both of the prospective parents is irrelevant?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Jollity on May 06, 2022, 05:55:49 PM
Will I call Linehan "really fucking homophobic" again?

 Yes, I think I will do that.

:)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 06, 2022, 06:08:28 PM
Is that not just short of saying 'gay men shouldn't be parents as it goes against the natural family order'?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 06, 2022, 06:09:08 PM
Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 06, 2022, 02:11:56 PMHey folks, it's probably a bit early to be thinking of this but if there's a thread 19[1] I'm going to consolidate some of the historical cuntery into fewer points. Like instead of listing every GBeebies appearance I'd have "Been on GB News X times" for instance. I'll still have a New Since Last Time section. Sound good? Barry if this belongs in the moderation thread please move it.


1. Of course there'll be one.

I was going to suggest this on the last thread, then thought it looked a bit cunty, given that you're having fun and putting a lot of effort in. But previous intro posts would cut and consolidate stuff in each new iteration as a matter of course. When it's as long as the first post here, I worry that most people won't bother to read it.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 06, 2022, 06:11:24 PM
Quote from: Jollity on May 06, 2022, 05:55:49 PMWill I call Linehan "really fucking homophobic" again?

 Yes, I think I will do that.

:)

It is notable that this is the one non-trans-related "feminist issue" he seems to get really het up about. Pun intended.

Would he be equally furious about a heterosexual cis couple using a surrogate? Or a pair of cis lesbians who are unable to carry a baby?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 06, 2022, 06:11:43 PM
Toilet policeman Graham Linehan gets to decide what you do with your own body.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 06, 2022, 06:15:00 PM
Quote from: Jollity on May 06, 2022, 05:55:49 PMWill I call Linehan "really fucking homophobic" again?

 Yes, I think I will do that.

:)

The latest SGB post is a guest post (of course) about a trans support group in Nottingham for 12-18 year olds, that's run by a mental health professional lady who also DJs. She has DJ'd at a few gay nights/clubs and posted about doing so on her personal twitter account.

Needless to say this is written up as a massive safeguarding risk, even though there's absolutely no evidence at all to suggest her two professional roles overlap in the slightest.

In other words, it's just saying that anyone who has anything to do with the gays is somehow a risk to children, but with the usual "won't someone think of the children" veneer that lets them thing they aren't being raging homophobes.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 06, 2022, 06:20:59 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 06, 2022, 06:08:28 PMIs that not just short of saying 'gay men shouldn't be parents as it goes against the natural family order'?

No. Its just offence-mining by hiding behind women again.

He probably has nothing against this in reality, but he knows there are similar rage junkies on Twitter who will bite at this and circulate his shit.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 06, 2022, 06:37:02 PM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 06, 2022, 06:20:59 PMNo. Its just offence-mining by hiding behind women again.

He probably has nothing against this in reality, but he knows there are similar rage junkies on Twitter who will bite at this and circulate his shit.

Yeah I'm not saying he has something against it in reality, it just sounds very close to the 'gay men shouldn't have children' argument. That he probably has nothing against it in reality makes it even more baffling. Why does he go against his principles so much?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ferris on May 06, 2022, 06:51:52 PM
Quote from: drummersaredeaf on May 05, 2022, 03:51:33 PMET deny the claim

[tag]Spielberg early drafts discovered[/tag]
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: damien on May 06, 2022, 07:04:02 PM
GCs very quiet on twitter heh, also the MN elections thread which was full of excitable chat about Alba and spoiled ballots and voting Tory for the first time because Bojo knows what a woman is, has turned into a shouting match about who's fault it now all is. It's Theresa May's apparantly and someone called Maria Miller.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: king_tubby on May 06, 2022, 07:08:55 PM
She, er, she was instrumental in bringing in same sex marriage when she was Equalities minister under Cameron.

Is this bad now in GC world?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 06, 2022, 08:06:06 PM
Quote from: king_tubby on May 06, 2022, 07:08:55 PMShe, er, she was instrumental in bringing in same sex marriage when she was Equalities minister under Cameron.

Is this bad now in GC world?

They're getting there slowly.

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Zetetic on May 06, 2022, 08:07:31 PM
Quote from: Mister Six on May 06, 2022, 05:40:01 PMThe active noun - the "it" in that sentence - is "the fact".
This interpretation makes no sense, because the "the fact" is clearly about the child and there's no reason why Dowling would be claiming otherwise. (Setting aside that "related to" is an extremely weird way to put that.)

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 06, 2022, 08:20:40 PM
Quote from: Zetetic on May 06, 2022, 08:07:31 PMThis interpretation makes no sense, because the "the fact" is clearly about the child and there's no reason why Dowling would be claiming otherwise. (Setting aside that "related to" is an extremely weird way to put that.)

Ah, you might be right, I misread the quote. Who's the thick one now, eh?

(It's still the transphobes.)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: QDRPHNC on May 06, 2022, 08:47:12 PM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 06, 2022, 03:45:06 PM(https://i.postimg.cc/GhmHnPPr/Screenshot2021-12-19-10-16-58-838-com-yandex-browser.jpg)

She put her red hair over her shoulder in the light of the setting sun and as it flashed in her eyes she thought, "is that come?"
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mindy Simmons on May 06, 2022, 08:51:19 PM
Ah, what a great day to bathe in the tears of TERFs.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 06, 2022, 09:20:19 PM
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 06, 2022, 09:38:34 PM
Quote from: Mister Six on May 06, 2022, 06:09:08 PMI was going to suggest this on the last thread, then thought it looked a bit cunty, given that you're having fun and putting a lot of effort in. But previous intro posts would cut and consolidate stuff in each new iteration as a matter of course. When it's as long as the first post here, I worry that most people won't bother to read it.
It wouldn't have looked cunty at all, Mr. Six, and I agree with the rest of your post - in fact that's exactly why I want to start doing it. That first post is getting unwieldy.

I will continue to change up the pictures etc. just to keep it fresh.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: drummersaredeaf on May 06, 2022, 09:56:30 PM
Isn't the point that it's loads of repetitive instances of the same behaviour though? Call someone a paedo, go on FB news to complain about no Twitter, rinse, repeat.

An ever growing list that goes in circles is the most fitting tribute.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 06, 2022, 10:02:03 PM
Quote from: drummersaredeaf on May 06, 2022, 09:56:30 PMIsn't the point that it's loads of repetitive instances of the same behaviour though? Call someone a paedo, go on FB news to complain about no Twitter, rinse, repeat.

An ever growing list that goes in circles is the most fitting tribute.
Maybe, but there's a snappier way to get that across that doesn't alienate new people.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mtpromises on May 06, 2022, 10:16:37 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 06, 2022, 05:50:13 PMBanana post

(https://i.imgur.com/w73OXV5.jpg)

Would I be right in thinking that if you are pro-surrogacy then the sex of either/both of the prospective parents is irrelevant?
You have to remember a good part of Graham's audience/people he steals ideas from are rad fems, like former Mess host Benji, and are literally man hating "female separatists".  There is also a ton of resentment from lesbian rad fems towards gay men for being the most visible and successful part of the LBTG+ movement.  So it's a triple hate whammie for some of these cretins to see gay men using surrogacy.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 06, 2022, 10:53:43 PM
Quote from: mtpromises on May 06, 2022, 10:16:37 PMYou have to remember a good part of Graham's audience/people he steals ideas from are rad fems, like former Mess host Benji, and are literally man hating "female separatists".  There is also a ton of resentment from lesbian rad fems towards gay men for being the most visible and successful part of the LBTG+ movement.  So it's a triple hate whammie for some of these cretins to see gay men using surrogacy.

You're quite right, if you spend a lot of time with them it must soak in - this is from the guy that wore the LGB Alliance T-shirt to the big demo at Downing St a few weeks ago, was arrested and then went on The BC Show.

(https://i.imgur.com/qXIRaQ1.jpg)

A man telling a woman what she can and can't do with her own body.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 06, 2022, 11:03:36 PM
Yes, because adopting kids is so easy for gay couples.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: madhair60 on May 06, 2022, 11:42:23 PM
Quote from: Mister Six on May 06, 2022, 06:09:08 PMI was going to suggest this on the last thread, then thought it looked a bit cunty, given that you're having fun and putting a lot of effort in. But previous intro posts would cut and consolidate stuff in each new iteration as a matter of course. When it's as long as the first post here, I worry that most people won't bother to read it.

Yeah, I agree that it should be consolidated; the old versions will be available in the index anyway
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 06, 2022, 11:48:15 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 06, 2022, 10:53:43 PMYou're quite right, if you spend a lot of time with them it must soak in - this is from the guy that wore the LGB Alliance T-shirt to the big demo at Downing St a few weeks ago, was arrested and then went on The BC Show.

(https://i.imgur.com/qXIRaQ1.jpg)

A man telling a woman what she can and can't do with her own body.

Are they vociferously against surrogacy in general?

No, of course they're fucking not.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 07, 2022, 12:01:21 AM
Quote from: Mister Six on May 06, 2022, 11:48:15 PMAre they vociferously against surrogacy in general?

No, of course they're fucking not.

A lot of them are. Remember, when the Ukraine business kicked off and several GC/radfems were pleased, because they thought it would put an end to the "Ukrainian baby factories".
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 07, 2022, 12:04:52 AM
Seems like surrogacy is ok as long as a woman is one of the parents.

Gay men who aren't having children through surrogacy, no women involved. FINE
Straight couple i.e. featuring a 'real' (irony just in case the terminally disingenuous are reading) woman using surrogates? FINE
Lesbian surrogacy? FINE
Gay men paying women to bear their child: MISOGYNY


Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 07, 2022, 12:10:36 AM
Quote from: FalknerHinton on May 07, 2022, 12:01:21 AMA lot of them are. Remember, when the Ukraine business kicked off and several GC/radfems were pleased, because they thought it would put an end to the "Ukrainian baby factories".

At least those ones are consistent, but the only complaints I've seen have been centred entirely around gay men using surrogates.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Elfking on May 07, 2022, 01:14:20 AM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 06, 2022, 11:03:36 PMYes, because adopting kids is so easy for gay couples.

Of course. They just move the goalposts. First the battle was allowing gay couples to adopt then as soon as they lose that battle they move behind the next barrier. In this case it's criticising surrogacy as if the woman has no say. Do they think two gay men walk up to a woman demand they be a surrogate and the woman has no choice but to agree? It's ludicrous.

But that's why the battle for equal rights is so exhausting. These cunts will make you fight and claw for every inch. They will inevitably lose but they will make you work for every step of the journey.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 07, 2022, 02:38:00 AM
Just reading that 'piece' on the SGB about trans4me.

QuotePublicity for the group, which meets weekly, says it is aimed at children aged 12-18, though one listing describes the age range as 13-19. There is no mention in any of the publicity for the need for parental or carer approval or involvement.

You might already have your eyebrows raised at the wide age range: youth groups don't usually have children as young as 12 or 13 mixing with adults of 18 or 19.

Venture scouts does that age range., even one of the Glincels points out that MENCAP does that range as well (https://imgur.com/a/RYvyjaE). Plus just about any youth organisation ever (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LouyX9jeZpU) tends to have older-ish kids looking after the young 'uns, in a mentoring role.  So right at the start it's heading for the paedo angle.

Then it's off to the organisers twitter account where, shock horror, they find that she's liked tweets by GAY PEOPLE.  Oh my!

QuoteThe Damon Heart is an adult performer: scrolling down brings up some very explicit tweets. Anyone viewing the account will see recommendations for other sexual content, including a gay porn blog. In other words, any of Trans4Me's members curiously googling for information about the group facilitator will find this content very quickly. 
Will they?  Will they really?  Or did you have to go digging around in their twitter account to show something you thought was repulsive in an attempt to smear someones character?

It's fucking B-A-N-A-N-A-S he accuses us of a hate campaign against him, when he's publishing 'articles' like this which are clearly designed as a hit piece.  The sad part is, the only people who are going to fall for this gotcha are homophobes, which Graham is quite adamant he is not.  In fact it is everyone else who is the homophobe.

(https://i.imgur.com/iOJpIV1.png)

My retort to that is GC is an industry for absolute dullard homophobes to give their money to grifters (https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/help-sarahs-legal-challenge/).
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Elfking on May 07, 2022, 03:33:17 AM
I would've thought parental consent would be obvious regardless. Not that someone 16 or over really needs it just to go to a meeting. The only reason younger people might need consent is because they need consent for everything since they're, you know, kids.

But yeah, this is hardly new. When I was in the Beavers we would go on camping trips and would frequently be with boys that were nearly double our ages at some points. I distinctly remember being really tired one night and an older teenager giving me a piggy back ride back to the tents when I was probably 10 or 11. Unfortunately these people see predators everywhere and think any interaction between an adult and child is grooming or suspicious, obviously when trans people are involved the klaxons and sirens go off for them.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: shoulders on May 07, 2022, 07:11:26 AM
Every youth club I attended or know about seems to have a wide range of ages in attendance, largely because they wouldn't be viable as a community facility if they didn't.

If you haven't figured out these are some socially conservative cunts, there's a big siren wailing.

It's morbidly entertaining as they hop around from sports to youth clubs to US politics to discover just how fucking unbelievably ignorant they are.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 07, 2022, 08:43:54 AM
Venture Scouts was my first thought too, I remember them coming and helping on camps even when I was in the cubs - it's a good thing, they're there in a big brother/sister capacity. They'd freak if they found out that in The Netherlands the Scouts are mixed sex and I think the age range is 12-19ish.

Also gay club nights are "adult entertainment events" - more casual homophobia

(https://i.imgur.com/KGZqeJy.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 07, 2022, 09:02:08 AM
A couple of "we don't have to agree with everything they say, it's called being an adult" posts.

(https://i.imgur.com/KMqPQ8M.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/6QhBPFc.png)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 07, 2022, 09:15:20 AM
The Sea Scouts are mixed gender and have been for a long time.

Every martial arts club I've been in permits teenagers (generally 14/15 and older) to join their adults' class.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 07, 2022, 09:25:19 AM
Christ Staniland is stupid. Her go-to response for everything is 'is it because I is a woman?'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: greencalx on May 07, 2022, 09:31:20 AM
My god, their minds are going to be blown when they find that the age range at secondary schools is 11-18. And I believe a lot of them even let boys and girls use the same entrance. It's truly the end of times.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 07, 2022, 09:44:04 AM
Not only that, but we checked the twitter account of one of the crossing guards.  They had pronouns in the bio AND in 2011 liked a post from Tim Westwood.

Fucking groomers /s

EDIT: Just noticed those tweets about 'adult entertainment' (aka 'gay nights') were from 7 years ago.  He has to go 7 years in the past to dig up dirt on someone.  It's fucking pathetic.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 07, 2022, 09:45:18 AM
My daughter goes to Beavers.

Well she did, I'm pulling her out. Imagine my horror when I found out that there are boys there too, some of the Venture Scouts that help out are teenagers and the whole thing is run by adults!!!!!!!!!!??!!!!! And I don't know their sexuality, no one has been decent enough to share that information with us.

I had naturally assumed that it was run exclusively for and by 6-8 year old girls.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 07, 2022, 10:02:11 AM
Quote from: QDRPHNC on May 06, 2022, 08:47:12 PMShe put her red hair over her shoulder in the light of the setting sun and as it flashed in her eyes she thought, "is that come?"

Hahaha
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 07, 2022, 10:08:49 AM
Quote from: Elfking on May 07, 2022, 03:33:17 AMBut yeah, this is hardly new. When I was in the Beavers we would go on camping trips and would frequently be with boys that were nearly double our ages at some points. I distinctly remember being really tired one night and an older teenager giving me a piggy back ride back to the tents when I was probably 10 or 11.
God it's almost like having teenagers and younger kids in the same organisation helps teenagers build empathy and a sense of responsibility or something
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 07, 2022, 10:11:43 AM
And that adults are able to compartmentalise their "adult" lives  from their roles safeguarding children. Because teachers never fuck and scoutmasters never watch porn.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 07, 2022, 10:19:11 AM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 07, 2022, 09:25:19 AMChrist Staniland is stupid. Her go-to response for everything is 'is it because I is a woman?'

And she KNOWS Matt Walsh is a "women belong in the kitchen" type who has misogyny baked deeply into his very being. He has "Theocratic Fascist" in his bio and it's meant to be a joke but everything he says confirms that really is how he thinks, like a racist who makes a lot of edgy "jokes" (conveniently only jokes if someone calls them out on them).

Like for fucks sake he's going around saying shit like this:
(https://wp-media.patheos.com/subdomain/sites/8/2019/05/Walsh12yoVictim.png)

But Staniland thinks the true misogyny is pointing this out because apparently the issue here is she's a woman. To borrow a phrase she likes to use "this is not a serious person".
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 07, 2022, 10:23:51 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/xSwTBrI.png)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 07, 2022, 10:29:29 AM
Beta male. Says it all really

And LOL at the idea that Staniland reads feminist analysis. Her feminism is a sham
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Buttered Ghost on May 07, 2022, 10:44:41 AM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 07, 2022, 09:25:19 AMChrist Staniland is stupid. Her go-to response for everything is 'is it because I is a woman?'

Been watching that The Dropout on Disney+ and the way she kept cynically throwing out 'aS a WoMaN iN tEcH...' every time to avoid actually answering questions was heavily reminiscent...
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wobinidan on May 07, 2022, 10:48:16 AM
Quote from: retsuza on May 07, 2022, 10:19:11 AMHe (Matt Walsh) has "Theocratic Fascist" in his bio and it's meant to be a joke


It's not a joke at all, these Republican commentators are fascists. I think people in America are scarily complacent about just how far-right they are.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wobinidan on May 07, 2022, 10:55:41 AM
I don't feel like linking to it but there is a news story from Georgia where a trans schoolgirl was banned from using the women's toilets. Given the general hostility, she stopped going to the school. The school reported her truant and sent the police to her house to arrest her.

There's video of the police making the arrest, I haven't seen it and I don't intend to. It's just very worrying. I hope that the EU will consider granting some trans people from the US refugee status in the near future, if (when) things get worse.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 07, 2022, 10:58:30 AM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 07, 2022, 10:23:51 AM(https://i.imgur.com/xSwTBrI.png)

Hahahaha.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 07, 2022, 11:03:41 AM
Bailey Report
https://medium.com/@notCursedE/allison-bailey-i-do-not-identify-as-a-lesbian-i-am-a-lesbian-455eaea22160

Quote from: Gemma StoneAllison Bailey: "I do not identify as a lesbian, I am a lesbian"
This nonsense phrase was said, rather triumphantly, during her tribunal as a means to justify an objection she had with language being used on a document regarding supporting LGBTQIA+ lives.

The Allison Bailey tribunal has, so far, been rather disastrous for the anti-trans crowd in my humble and non-legally binding opinion. Admin issues, complaints about pronouns in usernames in the chatroom and bundle nonsense aside; it really does not appear to me that the evidence to support her claims is being met. Which as you can imagine, is bad.

For example, we started the tribunal with witnesses from Fair Play For Women, Women's Place UK and FiLiA — (yes, the same three groups invited to the Women's and Equalities Select Committee to explain their opposition to GRA reform). They were tasked with defending their witness statements and specifically the bits that said; "women and/or lesbians are more likely to be gender critical".

This is important because if its true that women are more likely to be gender critical then it would support the claim of indirect discrimination based on sex and sexuality, which is what Bailey alleges happened. However the barristers supporting the defendants, Garden Court Chambers and Stonewall UK, were very quick to shut this idea down. Not only citing polls which disprove that anti-trans views are more common amongst women, such as one by YouGov, which aren't hampered by the selection bias of dedicated anti-trans groups. But also with a thorough cross-examination of supporting evidence too.

Barristers found that none of the groups had any data which they could provide to support the claim they had made. They do not survey their guests for their sex, gender identity, sexuality or even check to see if they believe in the gender critical views being attributed to them for merely attending an event or following a Twitter account.

At best the claim these groups could have supported would be that "people who attend our meetings are more likely to be women based on observation, not data." But that isn't what they wrote as part of their witness statement and would not support the legal claim to indirect discrimination Bailey has made.

Bailey's evidence has been no better either. Large parts of her claim rest on her belief that events took place with no proof or evidence to back up that they actually did. Including essentially her entire claim that Stonewall and staff from her chambers were acting in cahoots to oust her.

Some of my favourite parts have included; referring to Stonewall UK's Diversity Champions Scheme as a "criminal protection racket", saying with her full chest that she — as a criminal barrister, no less — knew the severity of accusing someone of coaching people to coerce young lesbians into sex they do not want. Yet she did it anyway, only to then walk that back slightly saying what she meant by coercion was "encourage". Also the fact that she has absolutely no evidence that supports the claims she makes about what the 'Cotton Ceiling' talk in Canada was about, because she wasn't there and neither was anyone she knows.

We also have Bailey claiming that she was being "respectful" while referring to this woman, who she accused of coercion, as "male-bodied" for being transgender. Though I'm not particularly sure how as this term "male-bodied" originates from within transphobic organising, specifically its used as a means of arguing for our exclusion from women's spaces. Not to mention the fact that without any acquaintance, friendship or relationship with this individual; its just rude as all heck to talk about their body like, at all, let alone within specific transphobic framings.

And yes, the "I do not identify as a lesbian, I am a lesbian" bit was comedy gold, but a very poor legal defense. Transphobes have spent so much time in their echo chambers riling each other up about transphobia they have forgotten how normal people speak to each other. The word "identify" has been twisted out of shape to mean and imply something it simply does not; "I am a lesbian" is the act of identifying oneself to be a lesbian. That's all there is to it.

There is obviously still a lot more to go, with witnesses for the defendant needing to be cross-examined and re-examined and all sorts of other tribunal-y stuff. Usually I wait until the end of hearings to report on them, that way I can just cover it all and the result in one piece, but with how much media attention this one is grabbing I figured I'd take a slice
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 07, 2022, 11:14:52 AM
Quote from: retsuza on May 07, 2022, 10:19:11 AMAnd she KNOWS Matt Walsh is a "women belong in the kitchen" type who has misogyny baked deeply into his very being. He has "Theocratic Fascist" in his bio and it's meant to be a joke but everything he says confirms that really is how he thinks, like a racist who makes a lot of edgy "jokes" (conveniently only jokes if someone calls them out on them).

Like for fucks sake he's going around saying shit like this:
(https://wp-media.patheos.com/subdomain/sites/8/2019/05/Walsh12yoVictim.png)

But Staniland thinks the true misogyny is pointing this out because apparently the issue here is she's a woman. To borrow a phrase she likes to use "this is not a serious person".
Yes, that's exactly how the justice system works. Dickhead. Not to mention that the mother will constantly be reminded of the rape, and/or the baby will grow up knowing they were a product of rape.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 07, 2022, 11:25:13 AM
No baby = no rape?

Wankers.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 07, 2022, 11:52:45 AM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 07, 2022, 10:23:51 AM(https://i.imgur.com/xSwTBrI.png)

Can't really blame her for what her thick as shit fans say, but I am loving the irony of this.

For the unaware the whole alpha/beta distinction is from a
study on wolves that was later discredited (https://wolf.org/headlines/44265/), the methodology wasn't good, and the concept of an alpha male in wolves is not actually a thing at all.

Feminist analysis is when you use toxic masculinity buzzwords from something nearly completely made up.

ETA: ah, didn't notice it was actually retweeted by Staniland. You're a really fucking bad Feminist, penislady
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 07, 2022, 12:03:09 PM
Quote from: wobinidan on May 07, 2022, 10:48:16 AMIt's not a joke at all, these Republican commentators are fascists. I think people in America are scarily complacent about just how far-right they are.

Agreed I just mean to say he's doing this obnoxious thing of pretending it's a joke.

So I'm going to be a little bit obnoxious too and post a Jean-Paul Sartre quote that I think is relevant:

"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 07, 2022, 12:04:47 PM
Even if the study wasn't discredited it's still telling they think like that. 'Beta males' are less dominant and weak in their eyes and 'alpha males' are strong and powerful. Aren't they supposed to be gender critical? Instead they're saying that if a man isn't the leader of a pack, he's a lesser or 'beta' male
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 07, 2022, 12:07:53 PM
I also hate the alpha/beta/sigma/mu/whatever shit. Always used to put men down for not being Big Macho Manly Men. So gender critical. Also, we're not wolves.

Retsuza, the Sartre quote describes Staniland, Nicholson, JKR etc. to a tee. They know exactly what they're doing.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 07, 2022, 12:41:01 PM
Beta alpha nu alpha nu alpha male.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: drummersaredeaf on May 07, 2022, 12:45:43 PM
Again, more culture war bollocks that doesn't belong in an employment tribunal.

It will essentially come down to 'has this woman been bullied on the grounds of a protected characteristic?', and all they need to show is that she hasn't. Whether that's other lesbians in the same place who have no beef with stonewall/the employer, or an argument that it's always policy to investigate complaints over social media posts.

Her witness statement needs an extensive history of her time in San Francisco no more than my pro/anti Israel example needs diary extracts from the frontline of the IDF.

To further illustrate the point, here's an anecdote:

A pal of mine represented a worker who had lost all his bonuses and enhancements for telling a boss to fuck off. He raised a grievance/appeal, and in the meeting my mate's presence wasn't even acknowledged. No brew, no hellos from the HR goblins. He let them run the meeting like a boxing exhibition match for 30 minutes then said:

'I'm getting up to leave now. Mr Whatever tells me that the same manager three months ago called him 'a fucking black baboon' and when he raised it as an issue was told it was 'just banter'. So what I'm seeing here is a clear comparative case of unfavorable treatment on the grounds of his race. You're going to invite me back in two weeks, and in that meeting you're going to tell me all the measures you have taken to address this'.

Two weeks later he comes back to the red carpet treatment. The bloke in question is back to where he was on the pay scales, and all the disciplinary action is overturned. Maybe there's even a commitment to some equality training.

The bloke then goes to an employment solicitor who hears the above and sees pound signs. Clear case of racial discrimination - uncapped award at the ET. He goes through with it, loses entirely, and the reason is 'why have you brought this to us? This was dealt with in that meeting'. Lad carries on working there for a bit and the HR goblins contrive a way to retaliate down the line and sack him. A history of racial inequality, the claimant's life story etc, not relevant. There is a racial aspect to this, but not any more so please get over it and stop trying to interfere with the generation of profit.

I've not read her entire document because it's enormous and takes about 60 paragraphs to get to her talking about the place she's working at. There may be bullying in there. It may be a dreadful place to work. She may have decent evidence that she has been told her views are not comparable with the values of the carphone warehouse. But when it comes down to it if she's said something that people there find objectionable, then I feel the tribunal is going to back up the employer in their right to enforce their own policies.

Of course if someone is going to read it and tell me she's suffered greater detriment than being asked to attend a meeting then by all means show me. Equally, if there is a hostile environment for other reasons she might win on that front, but again that says nothing about the ideological winners in an external debate.

-END-
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poobum on May 07, 2022, 12:46:18 PM
The dangerous stupidity of "I don't identify as a lesbian, I am a lesbian" stuff. Is this suggesting they believe there's a biological basis for homosexuality? Are they prepared to follow their "biological reality" arguments to qualify for the legal protections under the law for homosexual people? Am I just paranoid in thinking about these kind of implications and what they could lead to?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: grainger on May 07, 2022, 01:44:24 PM
My child attends a weekly rock music workshop where the students range from 12-19 years of age. Oh, the horror!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: grainger on May 07, 2022, 01:56:25 PM
The stupidity and ignorance of the GCs is staggering. Stupidity, ignorance and obsession make for a frightening combination.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 07, 2022, 02:01:13 PM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 07, 2022, 11:14:52 AMYes, that's exactly how the justice system works. Dickhead. Not to mention that the mother will constantly be reminded of the rape, and/or the baby will grow up knowing they were a product of rape.
Now add the physical damage childbirth can do to a child's little body on top of all the mental and emotional trauma. But then when you're a right-wing regressive who sees women as only good for one thing, that's easily brushed aside.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dontpaintyourteeth on May 07, 2022, 02:27:07 PM
I don't know if this is an appropriate place to stick my nose in, but I've been lurking here for ages reading all the glinner threads so it seemed like I should just bite the bullet and register. Anyway you lot have done a grand job keeping up with this evil cunt. Hats off. Couldn't have done it myself. Had to leave twitter because of how TERFy it has become.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: typeforty on May 07, 2022, 02:35:54 PM
https://ibb.co/0Bct6Hq (I can't get it to embed)

Given Morris' aversion to things like interviews and social media, this is a very easy claim for Linehan to make, safe in the knowledge it'll never be confirmed or denied. Awkward if true, mind.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: QDRPHNC on May 07, 2022, 02:42:47 PM
Here you go:

(https://i.ibb.co/PTNQPqx/Screenshot-2022-05-07-143102.png)

Can't say for sure Graham is lying of course, but... you know.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQmV72IXoAMClvT.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Graveside Haven on May 07, 2022, 02:43:56 PM
Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 07, 2022, 02:01:13 PMNow add the physical damage childbirth can do to a child's little body on top of all the mental and emotional trauma. But then when you're a right-wing regressive who sees women as only good for one thing, that's easily brushed aside.
Yet another first time poster here, and just posting to thoroughly agree. In this example the girl isn't a human in her own right, but a thing to be used to prove the guilt of a man. Like some kind of real-life tv trope.

My Mum brought me and my siblings up around feminism, she worked with DV survivors for most of my childhood, and she's always perplexed at the anti-trans angle. Of course she's also a socialist which may be the key, it's the opposite of solidarity
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 07, 2022, 02:50:58 PM
Welcome @dontpaintyourteeth and @Graveside Haven, nice to have you here.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 07, 2022, 02:57:36 PM
Bit cheeky of Graham to speak on behalf of someone else

My theory is that Graham has spoken to him, told him the 'peak' stories etc and Chris has just nodded in the way that people do to not engage when someone goes off on a conspiracy rant. This is taken as 'he gets it'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Pimhole on May 07, 2022, 03:02:30 PM
Yeah, I've wondered before whether BC using his sock to needle Jo Unwin into saying something was an indication that he already knew she was GC. And honestly it wouldn't surprise me at all, she is of an age and a social class where she would totally fit into that sort of ladder-pulling type of feminism. Same social circle as a lot of them too.

And that doesn't necessarily mean that Chris Morris is too, but does make it more likely. I don't think I'd give a fuck if he was tbh. He's old and past it, and it's an old and past it position.

But what is also very likely is, as Ex_GC says, he was just appeasing a ranting nutjob.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Pimhole on May 07, 2022, 03:03:28 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 07, 2022, 02:50:58 PMWelcome @dontpaintyourteeth and @Graveside Haven, nice to have you here.

Yes, this
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 07, 2022, 03:04:05 PM
If he knew Morris was a bananarist he'd have used it as a stick to beat this site with.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Buttered Ghost on May 07, 2022, 03:06:12 PM
Quote from: dontpaintyourteeth on May 07, 2022, 02:27:07 PMI don't know if this is an appropriate place to stick my nose in, but I've been lurking here for ages reading all the glinner threads so it seemed like I should just bite the bullet and register. Anyway you lot have done a grand job keeping up with this evil cunt. Hats off. Couldn't have done it myself. Had to leave twitter because of how TERFy it has become.
Quote from: Graveside Haven on May 07, 2022, 02:43:56 PMYet another first time poster here, and just posting to thoroughly agree. In this example the girl isn't a human in her own right, but a thing to be used to prove the guilt of a man. Like some kind of real-life tv trope.

My Mum brought me and my siblings up around feminism, she worked with DV survivors for most of my childhood, and she's always perplexed at the anti-trans angle. Of course she's also a socialist which may be the key, it's the opposite of solidarity

Welcome! I remember joining near the tail end of thread 10 and naively thinking there was nothing left to talk about. The man knows no depths.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 07, 2022, 03:08:31 PM
And welcome to the new members! I'm relatively new myself and have found the commentary hilarious (not bad for a site of so-called failed comedians, according to GL) and insightful
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dontpaintyourteeth on May 07, 2022, 03:24:19 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 07, 2022, 03:08:31 PMAnd welcome to the new members! I'm relatively new myself and have found the commentary hilarious (not bad for a site of so-called failed comedians, according to GL) and insightful

Yes, totally agree. This site has been a very useful counter to other, more deranged, places eg prosecco stormfront
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: king_tubby on May 07, 2022, 03:54:56 PM
Quote from: jobotic on May 07, 2022, 03:04:05 PMIf he knew Morris was a bananarist he'd have used it as a stick to beat this site with.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 07, 2022, 04:00:05 PM

Going live @4pm
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 07, 2022, 04:02:00 PM
Also bear in mind he thinks most people 'get it' but are too afraid to speak up cos of the evil trans activists who'll try to ruin their lives. Or because they're big cowards. His view chops and changes
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dissolute ocelot on May 07, 2022, 04:11:53 PM
Allison Bailey's "I do not identify as a lesbian, I am a lesbian" is lesbian gatekeeping, an attempt at biological determinism that is at the centre of GC rhetoric. Some women who have sex or relationships with women identify as lesbians, but some identify as bisexual or queer (or pansexual or a range of other terms). And some self-identified lesbians have had relationships with men in the past. But GCs insists that being a lesbian is a biological fact, defined by the chromosomes of every person you've had sex with. If you have sex with a cis man even once, or maybe just smile at one, you're not a lesbian. It's political lesbianism that has nothing to do with sexuality or relationships.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 07, 2022, 04:20:39 PM
Clicked on Glinner's mess. He talked about men with walkers because they have osteoporosis. Then he said that left-wingers think "women are Nazi adjacent". Clicked off.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Jollity on May 07, 2022, 04:32:02 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 07, 2022, 02:57:36 PMBit cheeky of Graham to speak on behalf of someone else

My theory is that Graham has spoken to him, told him the 'peak' stories etc and Chris has just nodded in the way that people do to not engage when someone goes off on a conspiracy rant. This is taken as 'he gets it'

I suspect quite a lot of the triumphant "I peaked someone" stories actually ended with the other person putting the matter entirely out of their mind as soon as the TERF is out of view, because they don't actually give a shit. I'm pretty sure this is how my dad responds to everyone's political opinions on anything at all, and I occasionally wonder if there's some nerd out there who thinks they "peaked" my dad, and who has no idea that he will never think about the issue ever again.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 07, 2022, 04:33:43 PM
It's not worth the arseache to disagree with obviously toxic and disturbed people.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 07, 2022, 04:35:49 PM
"Yeah alright mate, I'll have a look at the website when I get home later. No I swear I will. Anyway I've got to go, my dog's on a yellow line. Groomers, yeah? Got it. Cheers".

Graham, you've done it again.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 07, 2022, 04:41:17 PM
interrupted Staniland and deleted a womans comment saying let her speak. ever the king of the women
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Elfking on May 07, 2022, 05:30:26 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on May 07, 2022, 04:20:39 PMClicked on Glinner's mess. He talked about men with walkers because they have osteoporosis. Then he said that left-wingers think "women are Nazi adjacent". Clicked off.

So he's completely abandoning the notion that he's left wing now?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Alberon on May 07, 2022, 05:41:46 PM
God alone knows what he thinks he is but, as has been pointed out a lot here, anything is justified if it furthers the holy cause of erasing trans people.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: grainger on May 07, 2022, 06:24:30 PM
Quote from: Alberon on May 07, 2022, 05:41:46 PMGod alone knows what he thinks he is but, as has been pointed out a lot here, anything is justified if it furthers the holy cause of erasing trans people getting his Twitter account back.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 07, 2022, 07:11:26 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on May 07, 2022, 04:20:39 PMClicked on Glinner's mess. He talked about men with walkers because they have osteoporosis. Then he said that left-wingers think "women are Nazi adjacent". Clicked off.
Does that include left-wing women, or are we all men?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mtpromises on May 07, 2022, 07:49:14 PM
I know this is a bit last week, but I haven't seen anyone post it.  Users on a site we know Graham admires were using "groomer" 2 years before BC.

(https://i.imgur.com/HFn7Nll.png)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 07, 2022, 08:11:55 PM
'Degenerate'. A klaxon if I ever heard one.

Why is being gay or trans degenerate, but being straight isn't?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Pink Gregory on May 07, 2022, 08:16:26 PM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 07, 2022, 07:11:26 PMDoes that include left-wing women, or are we all men?

long way from a man that once said 'Facts are inherently left-wing, I think'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: DrGreggles on May 07, 2022, 08:34:37 PM
Quote from: mtpromises on May 07, 2022, 07:49:14 PMUsers on a site we know Graham admires were using "groomer" 2 years before BC.

https://www.facebook.com/seinfeldquotes/ ?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 07, 2022, 09:47:32 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 07, 2022, 04:00:05 PM

Going live @4pm
what the fuck is that thumbnail

(in case he changes it: The Godfather logo but it says "Garden Court Chambers")

As for Chris Morris, I don't care what beliefs he holds in the privacy of his own mind. There's no such thing as the Thought Police and thank fuck f' that. The important thing is, he isn't going on GBeebies and vibrating up and down while lying about trans people.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wrec on May 07, 2022, 10:26:48 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 07, 2022, 02:50:58 PMWelcome @dontpaintyourteeth and @Graveside Haven, nice to have you here.

Welcome, and also a doff of my cap for the Jandek reference
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wrec on May 07, 2022, 11:33:29 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 07, 2022, 02:57:36 PMBit cheeky of Graham to speak on behalf of someone else

My theory is that Graham has spoken to him, told him the 'peak' stories etc and Chris has just nodded in the way that people do to not engage when someone goes off on a conspiracy rant. This is taken as 'he gets it'

Very likely this. Dunno if you saw it but just before he mentioned meeting Morris for lunch he was seen in London ranting about "them"* as Morris nodded along. Given everything we know about Morris and how he deals with things in his work, he'd aim for a balanced view but is likely to see Linehan's hysteria for what it is rather than an informed analysis of something real. Also he's not a fucking idiot, or a bigot, or a bully, or all of the above.

*forget the overheard quote but think this was the gist

Morris has dealt with a backlash or two, but when confronted by Natalie Curtis for example, he apologised rather than abandoning his entire life to pursue a hate campaign against suicide survivors.

The comment to Jo Unwin was aggressive / accusatory if I remember correctly so I doubt it was an attempt to coax an admission of sympathy.

I keep coming back to the fact that transphobia is unreasonable and wrong, and, certainly in its GC/terf variety, a fringe view that's disproportionately common in British media circles. Has there been anyone whose transphobia has been unexpected and disappointing? I can only think of Chappelle, and in his case it's a symptom of a broader decline.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 07, 2022, 11:46:27 PM
I'll say as a newer member of this forum Chris Morris agreeing with anything Linehan fed to him would be fairly disappointing.

And what's worse is Graham is so trustworthy, genuine and honest that is definitely true what he says.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jamiefairlie on May 08, 2022, 12:32:00 AM
"Morris has dealt with a backlash or two, but when confronted by Natalie Curtis"

When did that happen? I missed it.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: ishantbekeepingit on May 08, 2022, 12:40:57 AM
Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 07, 2022, 09:47:32 PMwhat the fuck is that thumbnail

(in case he changes it: The Godfather logo but it says "Garden Court Chambers")
He mentioned in the stream that it's another masterpiece by the prodigious Moley - the hand is meant to be Stonewall, apparently.

Quote from: jamiefairlie on May 08, 2022, 12:32:00 AM"Morris has dealt with a backlash or two, but when confronted by Natalie Curtis"

When did that happen? I missed it.
It was for the "I'm Ian Curtis" hanging skeleton joke in TDT.  Apparently her daughter had convinced to her start watching it and that was the first episode she watched.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: trabuch on May 08, 2022, 01:07:44 AM
Comment whilst they wre discussing Roe v Wade on the mess they're in (and how trans activists are using it as a stick to beat real femenists with).

Ann Haywardrick "DeSantis is doing great work in Florida"

I find it very difficult to know what is a joke and what is real. I hope this was a joke, but I fear it was real.

By the way Graham does another lovely little song (whilst completely missing the point - ) at about 23.27.

From @doublehelix

It is a joke/parody. From 2017.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSJKwELXIAAFEza?format=png&name=900x900)

I'm never watching another one of those - they are ugly people.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Elfking on May 08, 2022, 03:19:59 AM
De Santis took away a trans person's medal so it doesn't matter how many women and children die, are severely traumatised or injured by not having access to things like abortion. He's clearly a great guy.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 08, 2022, 08:01:36 AM
Banning abortion is just a difference of opinion, silly!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: buttgammon on May 08, 2022, 08:06:02 AM
With the latest mental gymnastics from BC and friends, my current prediction is that by 2023, he'll have done a u-turn on abortion and decided that the right to choose is somehow pro-trans shilling, actually.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wrec on May 08, 2022, 09:50:03 AM
Quote from: buttgammon on May 08, 2022, 08:06:02 AMWith the latest mental gymnastics from BC and friends, my current prediction is that by 2023, he'll have done a u-turn on abortion and decided that the right to choose is somehow pro-trans shilling, actually.

RT of a Republican mentioning "promiscuity" before Rowling sets off in her sleigh.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: ajsmith2 on May 08, 2022, 09:53:31 AM
Quote from: wrec on May 07, 2022, 11:33:29 PMVery likely this. Dunno if you saw it but just before he mentioned meeting Morris for lunch he was seen in London ranting about "them"* as Morris nodded along. Given everything we know about Morris and how he deals with things in his work, he'd aim for a balanced view but is likely to see Linehan's hysteria for what it is rather than an informed analysis of something real. Also he's not a fucking idiot, or a bigot, or a bully, or all of the above.

*forget the overheard quote but think this was the gist


I believe the overheard fragmentary quote was 'it's like a production line'. Now of course this phrase could be applied to a wide variety of scenarios but I have to admit it's very, very hard to imagine the Glin of today using it in any other context than a negative assessment of contemporary rates of young people transitioning.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: ajsmith2 on May 08, 2022, 09:54:52 AM
Double post
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JaDanketies on May 08, 2022, 10:11:11 AM
I suspect Graham is particularly invested in getting Chris Morris or someone close to him to come out as a terf because CaB needles him.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 08, 2022, 10:19:58 AM
Quote from: ajsmith2 on May 08, 2022, 09:53:31 AMI believe the overheard fragmentary quote was 'it's like a production line'

Funnily enough he was was actually talking about a food processing factory managing to restock his favourite Italian ready meal at Tesco's.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: buttgammon on May 08, 2022, 10:30:34 AM
Quote from: JaDanketies on May 08, 2022, 10:11:11 AMI suspect Graham is particularly invested in getting Chris Morris or someone close to him to come out as a terf because CaB needles him.

This did occur to me, in which case he's made the mistake of thinking we all have the same personal investment in Chris Morris that he has in transphobia.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phes on May 08, 2022, 10:36:51 AM
CaB is to Chris Morris as Working Comedian is to Graham Linehan

Or in language he would steal understand: (https://i.imgur.com/hlMDSx5.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 08, 2022, 11:42:49 AM
Quote from: trabuch on May 08, 2022, 01:07:44 AMAnn Hayward "rick DeSantis is doing great work in Florida"

I find it very difficult to know what is a joke and what is real. I hope this was a joke, but I fear it was real.

It's someone trolling

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2602504/Pensioners-72-75-charged-900-Virgin-watching-porn-claim-didnt-order-five-year-battle-media-giant.html

BC said in a recent video that Rick (sic) DeSantis was doing great work in Florida and he would vote for him if he was a presidential candidate.

I saw someone say that he said George Foreman instead of George Floyd yesterday - did anyone catch that?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 08, 2022, 02:17:31 PM
Quote from: Glinner's blogRachel Meade: The process is the punishment
Another story of Stasi in the workplace

Rachel Meade's story is not unlike Allison Bailey's, with gender Stasi in her workplace reporting her for thought crimes including the sharing of this Substack.

Didn't bother to read past that, just couldn't get over thinking about the effect it must have on you to read and believe that kind of mad shit every day. Never mind writing it.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 08, 2022, 02:33:06 PM
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: QDRPHNC on May 08, 2022, 02:47:01 PM
That can't be real, is it?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 08, 2022, 02:55:23 PM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 08, 2022, 02:17:31 PMDidn't bother to read past that, just couldn't get over thinking about the effect it must have on you to read and believe that kind of mad shit every day. Never mind writing it.

I wonder what percentage of these wanks would be able to tell you what the Stasi actually was and why it was bad.
Very low, I'd bet. These people should be forced, Clockwork Orange style, to watch detailed documentaries about the horrors and atrocities they invoke to perhaps claw back a hair of perspective wrt their histrionic shit.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Wonderful Butternut on May 08, 2022, 03:05:38 PM
Quote from: BennyHedgehog on May 08, 2022, 02:33:06 PM

Amazing.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 08, 2022, 03:07:34 PM
.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 08, 2022, 03:08:49 PM
Quote from: QDRPHNC on May 08, 2022, 02:47:01 PMThat can't be real, is it?

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 08, 2022, 03:12:51 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 08, 2022, 03:08:49 PM

:D
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 08, 2022, 03:21:57 PM
Quote from: BennyHedgehog on May 08, 2022, 03:12:51 PM:D


Your one really threw me, I thought how have you tracked the superheroes on to the tv so well, it was only the two fingers at the end that made me realise 😁

Portrait mode was a nice touch too, I should have done that
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 08, 2022, 03:31:20 PM
I just re-shot it and put his stupid voice on over the top of it. It was a toss between Captain America and the Star Baby emerging at the end of 2001
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Pink Gregory on May 08, 2022, 03:47:27 PM
Quote from: Cold Meat Platter on May 08, 2022, 02:55:23 PMI wonder what percentage of these wanks would be able to tell you what the Stasi actually was and why it was bad.
Very low, I'd bet. These people should be forced, Clockwork Orange style, to watch detailed documentaries about the horrors and atrocities they invoke to perhaps claw back a hair of perspective wrt their histrionic shit.

Everyone who invokes the Stasi, I maintain, would love the fucking Stasi if their goals were aligned.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Jumblegraws on May 08, 2022, 03:57:06 PM
Quote from: BennyHedgehog on May 08, 2022, 03:31:20 PMI just re-shot it and put his stupid voice on over the top of it. It was a toss between Captain America and the Star Baby emerging at the end of 2001
Lol you've reminded me of back when he still had a legit Twitter account, when he kept on saying criticising men for weighing in on "feminism", someone on one of the threads remarked "and what does he think he is exactly? The fucking Star Baby at the end of 2001?"

My apologies to whoever wrote it for my not putting it in the guffaw thread.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jamiefairlie on May 08, 2022, 04:08:34 PM
Quote from: Cold Meat Platter on May 08, 2022, 02:55:23 PMI wonder what percentage of these wanks would be able to tell you what the Stasi actually was and why it was bad.
Very low, I'd bet. These people should be forced, Clockwork Orange style, to watch detailed documentaries about the horrors and atrocities they invoke to perhaps claw back a hair of perspective wrt their histrionic shit.

Forced eh, you mean like the Stasi did?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 08, 2022, 04:14:00 PM
Quote from: jamiefairlie on May 08, 2022, 04:08:34 PMForced eh, you mean like the Stasi did?

I pronounce you unmutual. Take him to the indoctrination chamber, guards.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: checkoutgirl on May 08, 2022, 04:16:18 PM
What's up with the new layout lads? Does Neil not realise how unappealing it is to see are Graham's cum face as the first thing every time you open CaB?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 08, 2022, 04:54:54 PM
Quote from: Glinner's blogRachel Meade: The process is the punishment
Another story of Stasi in the workplace

Rachel Meade's story is not unlike Allison Bailey's, with gender Stasi in her workplace reporting her for thought crimes including the sharing of this Substack.
(https://i.imgur.com/6emcqiY.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: DenzilHolles on May 08, 2022, 05:06:28 PM
He's having a normal one today.

Ah, edited as I messed up trying to embed it https://ibb.co/4tYmTGD

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 08, 2022, 05:13:15 PM
Quote from: DenzilHolles on May 08, 2022, 05:06:28 PMHe's having a normal one today.


I went to look, and picked out different bits:

(https://i.postimg.cc/Vvp0tmjJ/IMG-20220508-170930.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/TY5D656g/IMG-20220508-170803.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 08, 2022, 05:15:12 PM
I'm sure the "reasonable question" was WHAT IS A WOMAN

yes, let's fuck up a cancer charity(?) org's twitter with our fucking bullshit, that's really helping women
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 08, 2022, 05:19:50 PM
Quote from: Lumpen Hate MatterRachel Meade's story is not unlike Allison Bailey's, with gender Stasi in her workplace reporting her for thought crimes including the sharing of this Substack.



She was only expressing her legally protected philosophical beliefs!

(https://i.imgur.com/jpkzsJc.jpg)


Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 08, 2022, 05:23:40 PM
You know what's really pissy? Page one of Google's results for Rachel Meade social worker returns only The Times as a proper journalistic resource, which of course is paywalled. Everything else is I WAS UNFAIRLY DISMISSED FOR SAYING SEX IS REAL.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 08, 2022, 05:27:03 PM
Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 08, 2022, 05:23:40 PMYou know what's really pissy? Page one of Google's results for Rachel Meade social worker returns only The Times as a proper journalistic resource, which of course is paywalled. Everything else is I WAS UNFAIRLY DISMISSED FOR SAYING SEX IS REAL.

Absolutely, I had to go hunting for the case examiner's decision. What I don't get is Meade was hugely apologetic for sharing that junk and accepted the outcome of the investigation but is now taking it to an employment tribunal.

None of this is mentioned on her crowdfunder

https://www.socialworkengland.org.uk/media/4061/20210610-meade-r-final-250821_.pdf
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 08, 2022, 05:29:20 PM
I bet the GCs wish they could say gender instead of sex. Talking about 'sex is real and it's important and they are trying to erase all my sex' will just confuse most people they need to 'peak'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 08, 2022, 05:34:24 PM
Bit concerning

(https://i.imgur.com/fMTgN26.png)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 08, 2022, 05:54:53 PM
One of the truly great mysteries of our time as to to why that one isn't a practising barrister anymore.

/s
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 08, 2022, 06:06:28 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/wgb0bSJ.png)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 08, 2022, 06:09:40 PM
JK Peaking
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mindy Simmons on May 08, 2022, 06:22:46 PM
Quote from: wrec on May 07, 2022, 11:33:29 PMVery likely this. Dunno if you saw it but just before he mentioned meeting Morris for lunch he was seen in London ranting about "them"* as Morris nodded along. Given everything we know about Morris and how he deals with things in his work, he'd aim for a balanced view but is likely to see Linehan's hysteria for what it is rather than an informed analysis of something real. Also he's not a fucking idiot, or a bigot, or a bully, or all of the above.

*forget the overheard quote but think this was the gist

Morris has dealt with a backlash or two, but when confronted by Natalie Curtis for example, he apologised rather than abandoning his entire life to pursue a hate campaign against suicide survivors.

The comment to Jo Unwin was aggressive / accusatory if I remember correctly so I doubt it was an attempt to coax an admission of sympathy.

I keep coming back to the fact that transphobia is unreasonable and wrong, and, certainly in its GC/terf variety, a fringe view that's disproportionately common in British media circles. Has there been anyone whose transphobia has been unexpected and disappointing? I can only think of Chappelle, and in his case it's a symptom of a broader decline.

Even with all the problematic shit in the HP books, I was honestly shocked at Rowling. The extent of her hatred is still baffling. Le Guin certainly picked up on that hinted at nastiness in Harry Potter that I and a lot of other HP fans felt was just her accurately showing the shitty way kids act and tend to see things in very black and white terms. We gave her way too much credit. Turned out she's just that immature herself, and a bully to boot.

"Peaking hundreds" as the kids would say, fucking where!?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: damien on May 08, 2022, 06:32:35 PM
Yeah Jebadoo and Rowling and Glin are all having a truly lousy Sunday. Some proper ranting and flailing going around. I think the election results have rattled them. The great peaking of the British public just isn't happening.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cuellar on May 08, 2022, 06:40:17 PM
Why didn't people vote for the only party protecting women's rights?? (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/may/08/tories-urged-not-to-betray-working-women-by-ditching-employment-bill)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 08, 2022, 07:01:40 PM
Quote from: damien on May 08, 2022, 06:32:35 PMThe great peaking of the British public just isn't happening.

The Allison Bailey trial is The New Peakening.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 08, 2022, 07:05:09 PM
Watching them constantly push the goal posts further down the line will never not be funny.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mr. logic on May 08, 2022, 07:24:51 PM
Has she acknowledged his existence yet?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 08, 2022, 07:54:25 PM
Katherine Parkinson just said at the Baftas

"Who could forget four glorious series of the IT Crowd? God knows I've tried"

Why does she hate women so much?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 08, 2022, 08:11:23 PM
Quote from: jobotic on May 08, 2022, 07:54:25 PMKatherine Parkinson just said at the Baftas

"Who could forget four glorious series of the IT Crowd? God knows I've tried"

Why does she hate women so much?

HANDBEARDEN
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 08, 2022, 08:27:13 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on May 08, 2022, 07:05:09 PMWatching them constantly push the goal posts further down the line will never not be funny.

Like one of those end of the world cults that have to make excuses about getting their sums wrong and it's soon, honest.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: fancywookiee on May 08, 2022, 08:35:32 PM
Quote from: Cold Meat Platter on May 08, 2022, 08:27:13 PMLike one of those end of the world cults that have to make excuses about getting their sums wrong and it's soon, honest.

The Great Disappointment (Gender)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: greencalx on May 08, 2022, 08:38:01 PM
Sorry to be Mr Out-of-Touch again, but what is "peaking" in this context? All my googling just brings up piles of poo (literally).

I see Motherland won a BAFTA.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 08, 2022, 08:51:55 PM
Quote from: greencalx on May 08, 2022, 08:38:01 PMSorry to be Mr Out-of-Touch again, but what is "peaking" in this context? All my googling just brings up piles of poo (literally).


It's used to mean changing someone's mind about trans issues by presenting them with anti-trans propaganda, i.e. the fantasy of all these narcissistic bigots.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 08, 2022, 09:10:08 PM
Quote from: greencalx on May 08, 2022, 08:38:01 PMSorry to be Mr Out-of-Touch again, but what is "peaking" in this context? All my googling just brings up piles of poo (literally).

I see Motherland won a BAFTA.

I was just trying to remember what the origin of this term is and basically they have this idea of "peak trans" which is the most egregious example in their minds of transgender people (could be genuine sex offenders who are trans or gender non-conforming or like, just a trans person who they think doesn't look feminine or masculine enough).

"peak trans" can also mean just the point where they get fed up of trans people existing and the straw that breaks the camels back is always GC hate propaganda.

Basically when they say peaked they mean radicalised. They want people to not just have the gender critical viewpoint but to be obsessed about it. They want everyone else to be as sad as they are and to be vindicated that they lose friend and family from their pathetic crusade as long as they can think in their heads there's other crabs joining this bucket.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 08, 2022, 09:10:38 PM
Motherland wins a BAFTA and Katherine Parkinson makes a dig at The IT Crowd:

(https://i.imgur.com/BUw3QkQ.gif)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 08, 2022, 09:11:29 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/rffIz7w.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: YouCantWriteTearsJimmy on May 08, 2022, 09:16:04 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on May 08, 2022, 09:10:38 PMKatherine Parkinson makes a dig at The IT Crowd:

Oh what was the dig? I like Motherland, didn't like that Graham Linehan co-wrote it ... Happy Helen gets the recognition she deserves instead of her ex.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 08, 2022, 09:23:28 PM
Quote from: YouCantWriteTearsJimmy on May 08, 2022, 09:16:04 PMOh what was the dig? I like Motherland, didn't like that Graham Linehan co-wrote it ... Happy Helen gets the recognition she deserves instead of her ex.

It was mentioned up-thread:

Quote from: jobotic on May 08, 2022, 07:54:25 PMKatherine Parkinson just said at the Baftas

"Who could forget four glorious series of the IT Crowd? God knows I've tried"

Why does she hate women so much?

And, yeah, I'm really happy for Helen too.

Also, I think Graham only co-wrote season one. So he's not been involved for two seasons now.

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: grainger on May 08, 2022, 09:30:41 PM
Are we sure by "peaking" they don't mean "piquing", as in "piquing someone's interest"? And someone's just spelled it wrong at some point. It wouldn't be the first time (or the hundredth) they've en masse just got something wrong.

As an aside, according to Google, "pique" also means "feel irritated or resentful", which is appropriate for GCs.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 08, 2022, 09:34:07 PM
Quote from: grainger on May 08, 2022, 09:30:41 PMAre we sure by "peaking" they don't mean "piquing", as in "piquing someone's interest"?

It probably had it's origins there.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 08, 2022, 09:35:52 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 08, 2022, 09:11:29 PM(https://i.imgur.com/rffIz7w.jpg)

Is it a logical fallacy to criticise the supporters of an argument rather than the argument itself? Or just fucking stupid?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 08, 2022, 09:38:37 PM
Quote from: grainger on May 08, 2022, 09:30:41 PMAre we sure by "peaking" they don't mean "piquing", as in "piquing someone's interest"? And someone's just spelled it wrong at some point. It wouldn't be the first time (or the hundredth) they've en masse just got something wrong.

As an aside, according to Google, "pique" also means "feel irritated or resentful", which is appropriate for GCs.

No, it definitely means 'reaching ones peak'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dayraven on May 08, 2022, 09:59:45 PM
It's inspired by 'peak TV', I think (a term referring to the increase in number of TV shows produced during the streaming era, itself inspired by 'peak oil').

'Peak trans' is the idea, dear to Linehan's heart, that the acceptance of trans people is at a high point and the tide will turn any day now. 'Peaking' is a derivative of that, meaning making people reach that point.

...look, I'm no more pleased that I know this stuff than you are.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: bgmnts on May 08, 2022, 10:04:11 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 08, 2022, 09:11:29 PM(https://i.imgur.com/rffIz7w.jpg)

How is a child threatening women? Unless it was some Children of the Corn type stuff, it'd be quite the feat.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: greencalx on May 08, 2022, 10:07:19 PM
Quote from: Dayraven on May 08, 2022, 09:59:45 PMIt's inspired by 'peak TV', I think (a term referring to the increase in number of TV shows produced during the streaming era, itself inspired by 'peak oil').

'Peak trans' is the idea, dear to Linehan's heart, that the acceptance of trans people is at a high point and the tide will turn any day now. 'Peaking' is a derivative of that, meaning making people reach that point.

...look, I'm no more pleased that I know this stuff than you are.

Thanks, but good grief that's convoluted. When even the urban dictionary doesn't know what you're talking about, you might have a nomenclature problem.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wrec on May 08, 2022, 10:38:56 PM
Telling someone to fuck off for a tweet that nobody reacted to dissing JK two years ago. He obviously found it by searching for Rowling transphobe.

(https://i.ibb.co/hHBZCqz/Screenshot-20220508-214830-4.png)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Alberon on May 08, 2022, 10:41:04 PM
He stands up for her all the time but, when it comes to Linehan, Rowling remains silent.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mindy Simmons on May 08, 2022, 10:45:30 PM
How on earth is a trans kid threatening women? Stop making shit up, Graham.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 08, 2022, 11:08:20 PM
Quote from: Mindy Simmons on May 08, 2022, 10:45:30 PMHow on earth is a trans kid threatening women? Stop making shit up, Graham.
All trans people are linked in a hive mind, led by the Trans Queen.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: markburgle on May 08, 2022, 11:20:39 PM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 08, 2022, 05:13:15 PM(https://i.postimg.cc/Vvp0tmjJ/IMG-20220508-170930.jpg)


I dunno about a poem but here's a lyric by Laura Jane Grace from Against Me, written and released before she came out as trans and the world knew her only as a macho rocker. I think it's beautiful, but that's just me:

The Ocean

If I could have chosen where God would hide his heaven
I'd wish for it to be the salt and swell of the ocean
Carried by the currents to all continents' shores
Reaching into the depths where the sun's light is never shown
Mixed with algae and coral, breathed in by sharks and dolphins
Sailed by tanker ships, private yachts, swam in by tourists
Working its way up through inlets, lakes, and rivers
Swamps, and estuaries, down through limestone into the aquifer

Purified by the county, pumped through pipes and out faucets
Filled into a glass to meet the thirst of our children

And if I could have chosen, I would have been born a woman
My mother once told me she would have named me Laura
I'd grow up to be strong and beautiful like her
One day, I'd find an honest man to make my husband
We would have two children, build our home on the Gulf of Mexico
Our family would spend hot summer days at the beach together
The sun would kiss our skin as we played in the sand and water
And we would know we loved each other without having to say it

At night, we would sleep with the windows of our house left open
Letting the cool ocean air soothe the sunburned shoulders of our children

There is an ocean in my soul where the waters do not curve
There is an ocean in my soul where the waters do not curve
There is an ocean in my soul where the waters do not curve
There is an ocean in my soul where the waters do not curve!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dog Botherer on May 08, 2022, 11:38:21 PM
if I recall correctly Laura wrote that even before she herself realised she was trans.

related, Transgender Dysphoria Blues is a fucking incredible album.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 09, 2022, 12:37:53 AM
I don't even care for poetry (don't understand or appreciate it due to being dumb) and even I know it's completely absurd to say that.

More of the dehumanisation thing isn't it. Can't be any good trans poetry because we hate the transgenders.

Infuriating how they use "gender identity (ideology/activists)" and "TRA" when they usually mean "any trans person or person who isn't a psycho dickhead about it"


They have to speak in code because if they didn't it would be even more obvious what bigotry is being pedalled
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: PaulTMA on May 09, 2022, 12:53:47 AM
Has Linehan ever responded to jibes regarding JK not wanting to know him?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Jumblegraws on May 09, 2022, 01:02:08 AM
I think the only reason St Joanne would acknowledge Greybum would be if there was a surge in people on Twitter mocking him because she hadn't done so. That way she'd have the satisfaction of spiting trans people and their allies again.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mtpromises on May 09, 2022, 01:39:39 AM
Anyone else bummed we are still waiting for a sequal to "Anatomy of a GC purity spiral, Part 1." by Anonymous?  It's been as almost three weeks since Part 1 dropped.

I thought BC wrote it himself, but in light of lateness of part 2 and a second reading I'm now thinking it's Arty and Graham.  Arty has had trouble before getting written pieces finished.  Plus the author claims to have had "female socialization" which Arty has claimed to have had on The Mess more than once, in those words.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 09, 2022, 09:13:53 AM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 08, 2022, 05:34:24 PMBit concerning

(https://i.imgur.com/fMTgN26.png)


(https://i.imgur.com/Z4tcCGy.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 09, 2022, 09:29:48 AM
4000 words of illiterate, legalistic windmilling incoming
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: shiftwork2 on May 09, 2022, 09:33:04 AM
cc: Mr Elon Musk
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 09, 2022, 10:04:29 AM
I wonder if Musk has made a specific junk folder for all the emails he's getting from people begging for their Twitter accounts back.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 09, 2022, 10:15:38 AM
His crime? He said he was gay. Oh and threatened to nail people to a wall.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 09, 2022, 10:16:30 AM
Or, he was suspended for threatening people. Including Stonewall, an organisation that deals with LGB people. Oh, I forgot, Stonewall are evil because they acknowledge trans people exist. What with being named after a pub that was popular with trans people.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 09, 2022, 11:10:01 AM
It's the digital version of going into a gay pub, insulting the trans staff member and getting chucked out.

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 09, 2022, 12:45:17 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 09, 2022, 09:13:53 AM(https://i.imgur.com/Z4tcCGy.jpg)

He obviously thought he was invincible after his last suspension and return
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 09, 2022, 01:00:00 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 09, 2022, 12:45:17 PMHe obviously thought he was invincible after his last suspension and return

So he's Alan Cumming from GoldenEye?

(http://basementrejects.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/goldeneye-boris-i-am-invincible-alan-cummin.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 09, 2022, 01:46:07 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 09, 2022, 12:45:17 PMHe obviously thought he was invincible after his last suspension and return

That and he was tweeting, pissed, at 2am.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 09, 2022, 03:10:51 PM
He's bolder on his locked account and retweeting stuff like this (edited one word because I do consider it a nasty slur used by the absolute worst of these fuckers)

(https://i.imgur.com/Ezve2Rt.png)

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 09, 2022, 03:15:51 PM
By the same logic can you use the n word about Bill Cosby? Answer=no.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 09, 2022, 03:18:57 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 06, 2022, 05:50:13 PMBanana post

(https://i.imgur.com/w73OXV5.jpg)

Would I be right in thinking that if you are pro-surrogacy then the sex of either/both of the prospective parents is irrelevant?

Just been revealed today it was one of the guy's sisters who is carrying the child. So it's not some random poor woman who is being forced to birth this gay couple's child like he's trying to frame it as, seems more like a loving act by a close family member. But is it any surprise Graham is unable to recognise that kind of thing anymore.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Alberon on May 09, 2022, 04:03:57 PM
Well, she's clearly been forced into it by her brother. Probably given no say in the matter.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ferris on May 09, 2022, 04:27:08 PM
Quote from: wrec on May 08, 2022, 10:38:56 PMTelling someone to fuck off for a tweet that nobody reacted to dissing JK two years ago. He obviously found it by searching for Rowling transphobe.

(https://i.ibb.co/hHBZCqz/Screenshot-20220508-214830-4.png)

I think the saddest thing about this is even across two twitter accounts of entirely monomania with no family or work commitments to distract him, he still doesn't get enough twitter content to throw low-grade drive-by conflict at at so he has to search for more. That's incredible, honestly.

It's like an alcoholic going through all their empties one by one to see if there's just one last drop in that bottle from Tuesday. There must be.

How can he not see this is an addiction (to the internet, anonymized aggro, obsessive-compulsive behaviour, whatever) that has pretty objectively ruined his life and he needs help? It's beyond me. There's no shame in asking for help if you've let things go too far and feel like you've come off the rails. It's fine to see someone about it and work to turn it around but the first step is admitting that and accepting some (or all) of the blame for where you've ended up, which I suppose will never happen.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 09, 2022, 04:41:39 PM
James Esses dropping a take so 🍌🍌🍌 even Graham would think twice (if he knew who Keir Starmer was)

(https://i.imgur.com/SqwSGzO.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 09, 2022, 04:47:53 PM
Oh he knows who Keir Starmer is, remember how proud he was of the pun 'keir theory'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Buttered Ghost on May 09, 2022, 05:00:58 PM
Quote from: Ferris on May 09, 2022, 04:27:08 PMIt's like an alcoholic going through all their empties one by one to see if there's just one last drop in that bottle from Tuesday. There must be.


The most accurate analogy I heard someone on here use months ago was that his complete and utter cluelessness on how..
anything on the internet works despite spending his entire life on it is like a heroin addict that can't work a needle. He's going to be a fascinating case study in psychology classes in the years to come...
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 09, 2022, 05:12:06 PM
It's mind blowing how incompetent he is
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mindy Simmons on May 09, 2022, 05:38:34 PM
Quote from: Buttered Ghost on May 09, 2022, 05:00:58 PMThe most accurate analogy I heard someone on here use months ago was that his complete and utter cluelessness on how..
anything on the internet works despite spending his entire life on it is like a heroin addict that can't work a needle. He's going to be a fascinating case study in psychology classes in the years to come...

Believe it or not, I've come across IV heroin users who can't locate veins for shit, and end up with infections galore (I mean, that can happen when you do it right,  but skin popping is a last resort for a reason).
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mtpromises on May 09, 2022, 05:46:22 PM
Quote from: Buttered Ghost on May 09, 2022, 05:00:58 PMThe most accurate analogy I heard someone on here use months ago was that his complete and utter cluelessness on how..
anything on the internet works despite spending his entire life on it is like a heroin addict that can't work a needle. He's going to be a fascinating case study in psychology classes in the years to come...
He's a failed pc gamer.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Bumlord on May 09, 2022, 06:23:15 PM
If Bananacunt loves JK Rowling (JK Rowling) that much, why can he still not pronounce her name properly?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 09, 2022, 06:40:32 PM
Quote from: Mindy Simmons on May 09, 2022, 05:38:34 PMBelieve it or not, I've come across IV heroin users who can't locate veins for shit, and end up with infections galore (I mean, that can happen when you do it right,  but skin popping is a last resort for a reason).

That's not just because their veins are all collapsed to shit?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 09, 2022, 06:41:32 PM
Quote from: The Bumlord on May 09, 2022, 06:23:15 PMIf Bananacunt loves JK Rowling (JK Rowling) that much, why can he still not pronounce her name properly?

He is cursed never to understand all the things he's passionate about.

JK Rowling
The internet
...
All the things.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 09, 2022, 08:22:41 PM
Quote from: Mister Six on May 09, 2022, 06:41:32 PMHe is cursed never to understand all the things he's passionate about.

JK Rowling
The internet
...
All the things.

Have we considered this whole thing is a monkey paw situation or an ironic curse by a badly phrased wish to a vengeful genie?

ETA: new page makes it so
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wrec on May 09, 2022, 08:42:54 PM
Quote from: retsuza on May 09, 2022, 08:22:41 PMHave we considered this whole thing is a monkey paw situation or an ironic curse by a badly phrased wish to a vengeful genie?

"I want to be the most talked about person on the Cook'd and Bomb'd forum forever! I want to be what people think of when they hear the word "discussed"".
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mindy Simmons on May 09, 2022, 09:11:22 PM
Quote from: Mister Six on May 09, 2022, 06:40:32 PMThat's not just because their veins are all collapsed to shit?

Not always, no.

I'm liking the Monkey's Paw tinfoil.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 09, 2022, 10:55:24 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/XciDF6b.png)

Poor Sian

(https://i.imgur.com/fxTniUl.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Buttered Ghost on May 09, 2022, 11:14:31 PM
Quote from: some bigotHOMOSEXUALS AND HETEROSEXUALS HAVING A CIVILIZED DISCUSSION ON THE INTERNET

OH NO! HERE COMES THE TRANS!

HAHA. THIS IS TOTALLY HOW NORMAL AVERAGE HUMAN BEIGNS TALK.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mindy Simmons on May 09, 2022, 11:52:39 PM
Quote from: Buttered Ghost on May 09, 2022, 11:14:31 PMHAHA. THIS IS TOTALLY HOW NORMAL AVERAGE HUMAN BEIGNS TALK.

I was just reading the rant of some TERF about how all "normies" think of trans people the same way they do. I swear they never talk to anybody outside of their cult.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 09, 2022, 11:54:34 PM
'Homosexuals'. Really telling on yourselves, guys.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wrec on May 10, 2022, 12:02:48 AM
54 year old edgelord, trying to get banned as he admitted, not that those posts don't perfectly reflect his thinking. Are his Mess cohorts or "reasonable" supporters (if there are any left) interacting with that account?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: GoblinAhFuckScary on May 10, 2022, 12:55:08 AM
this cunt still going
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Elfking on May 10, 2022, 01:49:01 AM
Graphic Design is my passion vibes.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 10, 2022, 06:25:10 AM
The scatalogical Moley
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: RicoMNKN on May 10, 2022, 08:54:58 AM
I want him to get his account back simply to see how people who followed him for his comedy react to that sort of dreadful shit in their timeline. 

I know they turned a blind eye to the transphobia and bullying before, but it's now 100% angry bananas rather than 'concerned' cherry picking, so far harder to deny.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: superthunderstingcar on May 10, 2022, 10:14:35 AM
Quote from: retsuza on May 09, 2022, 08:22:41 PMHave we considered this whole thing is a monkey paw situation or an ironic curse by a badly phrased wish to a vengeful genie?

ETA: new page makes it so
"I wish Twitter would do something to prevent me, beloved internet personality Grahan Lineham, from having my opinions and beliefs challenged by ordinary members of the public."
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 10, 2022, 10:41:40 AM
"...whilst I call them all paedophiles"
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 10, 2022, 10:46:54 AM
Staniland does this really annoying thing where she jumps on a phrase and just repeats it over and over again.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZnT1qUg.png)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 10, 2022, 10:52:01 AM
Maybe they have no idea who or what they are fighting because the people they are fighting are so inconsistent and lacking in any ethical position other than "trans bad". All other points are moveable depending on how it relates to the "trans bad" argument at that time.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: thr0b on May 10, 2022, 10:55:41 AM
It's not as good a catchphrase as when she said "Penis"
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 10, 2022, 10:59:52 AM
Helen "Not a Serious Person" Staniland
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: chip on May 10, 2022, 11:08:46 AM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 09, 2022, 11:54:34 PM'Homosexuals'. Really telling on yourselves, guys.

What does this mean?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 10, 2022, 11:15:13 AM
Saw a screenshot of a tweet from Frances Weetman saying that she was trans when a teen but grew out of it, as most people do. They really can't get their head around the difference between tomboy/girls and trans people, and that there are gradations of gender non-conformity (something that GCs should be pleased about you would think) and that trans allies are perfectly happy with the concept of tomboys and don't think anyone who has any complicated thoughts about their gender or sexuality should be pushed towards transitioning.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 10, 2022, 11:16:04 AM
Very, very rarely do gay men or lesbians refer to themselves as 'homosexuals'. When I've seen a person use that word to refer to gay men/lesbians, and they're not a native English speaker, they're nearly always homophobic. I wish I could articulate it more clearly, but basically it's a red flag.

I was a tomboy as a kid and I am most definitely not trans. There's a huge difference!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 10, 2022, 11:24:27 AM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 10, 2022, 11:16:04 AMVery, very rarely do gay men or lesbians refer to themselves as 'homosexuals'. When I've seen a person use that word to refer to gay men/lesbians, and they're not a native English speaker, they're nearly always homophobic. I wish I could articulate it more clearly, but basically it's a red flag.


Yeah, it is like men who call women "females". There is something off about such clinical language#. I'm not saying everyone who uses those terms is homophobic or misogynist, but it is an indicator
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Pimhole on May 10, 2022, 12:00:36 PM
"Homosexuals" always reminds me of this clip

Always hear it in an evangelical preacher's voice.

Also, nice bi-erasure in that cartoon. Although the use of 'homosexual' really does highlight the way saying "here come the trans" is like saying "here come the homos".

Another tiny detail which is further proof of them never quite understanding memes: "tRaNsWoMeN aRe WoMeN". You're not supposed to capitalise every other letter all uniformly like that. CaPItaLisE rAnDom lEtTerS.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 10, 2022, 12:06:04 PM
Man of the moment DNK not a fan of the 'ol bisexuals

(https://i.imgur.com/NIF772h.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: bgmnts on May 10, 2022, 12:10:17 PM
Vichy gay is a funny term sorry.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 10, 2022, 12:15:29 PM
Wait a minute I thought Mr Nail You To The Wall was siding with "radfems"
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 10, 2022, 12:22:45 PM
Who is he messaging there?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: DreadedScotsman on May 10, 2022, 12:26:45 PM
Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 10, 2022, 12:15:29 PMWait a minute I thought Mr Nail You To The Wall was siding with "radfems"

Maybe a rare moment of drunken clarity and acknowledging that the GCs aren't feminists
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 10, 2022, 01:03:12 PM
Quote from: phantom_power on May 10, 2022, 11:15:13 AMSaw a screenshot of a tweet from Frances Weetman saying that she was trans when a teen but grew out of it, as most people do. They really can't get their head around the difference between tomboy/girls and trans people, and that there are gradations of gender non-conformity (something that GCs should be pleased about you would think) and that trans allies are perfectly happy with the concept of tomboys and don't think anyone who has any complicated thoughts about their gender or sexuality should be pushed towards transitioning.

Was it a tweet to Oddbins at three in the morning?

Edit: wrong loathsome Frances I think
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 10, 2022, 01:20:45 PM
Yeah this is the tweetman, the former tyneside labour councillor who resigned over antisemitism, and has a reputation for making up things about herself like how many degrees she has to win arguments against the Hard Left.

Kavanaugh has such anger and narcissism issues he makes Fergusson look normal. His weird handle jebadoo2 is rather bathetic next to his insanely violent rhetoric. Also "I prefered AIDS" is another accidental funny of his
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Bumlord on May 10, 2022, 01:37:25 PM
Must be a nice life, spitting absolute fury at everything around you every single day.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 10, 2022, 01:47:34 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/R4Eo4Fe.png)

Looks like he is doing an autobiography on his blog.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 10, 2022, 01:54:20 PM
When he calls people 'fat' it shows his argument has no substance
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 10, 2022, 02:01:06 PM
I reckon all the funny and creative bits of his brain have been stuffed full of weird 'facts' about trans people, that he uses as ammunition in his 'gender war'.

In short, cunt bananas etc
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 10, 2022, 02:09:46 PM
I've been re-watching Father Ted, and it's so weird to see him become SO humourless. Father Ted is so wacky and surreal (at its best); it has a live action cartoon logic. Maybe not to the extent of Bottom, but its type of humour suggests it's been written by people who know their onions when it comes to comedic styles. When he's not ripping off Seinfeld, of course.

It's hard to believe that they're the same men.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Vroomo on May 10, 2022, 02:16:30 PM
I've just watched ep2 of the Jimmy Savile doc & towards the end it shows a clip of Ian Hislop on Have I Got News For You reflecting on once having Jimmy as a teammate and he says "I didn't shout 'YOU'RE A PAEDO!!' Because I didn't know."

As he says this his teammate is Glinner presumably thinking "Hmmm... Maybe accusing everyone of being a Paedophile is the way forward."
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 10, 2022, 03:50:00 PM
Nice result for these cunts in the Queen's Speech today.

Still even with the government and the entire media on their side they're still brave rebels.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 10, 2022, 04:22:48 PM
Quote from: jobotic on May 10, 2022, 03:50:00 PMNice result for these cunts in the Queen's Speech today.

Still even with the government and the entire media on their side they're still brave rebels.

I missed the Queen's thingy. What win did these cunts win?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mtpromises on May 10, 2022, 04:39:20 PM
The ban on conversion therapy won't include trans people.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 10, 2022, 07:01:49 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 10, 2022, 01:54:20 PMWhen he calls people 'fat' it shows his argument has no substance
And he's not exactly thin himself.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 10, 2022, 07:04:25 PM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 10, 2022, 07:01:49 PMAnd he's not exactly thin himself.

He just can't help but go for personal insults. And yes, pot, kettle
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: damien on May 10, 2022, 07:12:15 PM
The manner in which he's now Back On Twitter is ideal; he can delude himself ranting away to his wee fanbase and the rest of us can't hear him.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 10, 2022, 07:44:20 PM
Quote from: damien on May 10, 2022, 07:12:15 PMThe manner in which he's now Back On Twitter is ideal; he can delude himself ranting away to his wee fanbase and the rest of us can't hear him.

He hasn't posted on gettr for over two weeks now.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 10, 2022, 07:48:49 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 10, 2022, 07:44:20 PMHe hasn't posted on gettr for over two weeks now.

How can he post on gettr when there's so much going on?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 10, 2022, 07:57:49 PM
Gettr off dead

What will they do without him? Oh yeah, racism.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mindy Simmons on May 10, 2022, 09:27:53 PM
Not directly Graham related, but I just saw some fool on the New Zealand Bird site claim the evil trans are trying to give babies drugs to cause lactation...the nuttiness is jaw dropping.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 10, 2022, 10:09:44 PM
How can babies lactate when they don't have tits?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Shaxberd on May 10, 2022, 10:34:13 PM
I've heard it can happen shortly after birth, because the baby absorbs hormones from the mother. Witch's milk, it's called. The idea that it's trans people's fault is a new one but I suppose everything else is so why not add it to the list.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ferris on May 10, 2022, 11:13:20 PM
Quote from: damien on May 10, 2022, 07:12:15 PMThe manner in which he's now Back On Twitter is ideal; he can delude himself ranting away to his wee fanbase and the rest of us can't hear him.

He is so irrelevant as to be not worth banning.

That's quite sad really. Whole thing is sad of course.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wrec on May 10, 2022, 11:24:08 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 10, 2022, 07:44:20 PMHe hasn't posted on gettr for over two weeks now.

Confused this with Glindr for a minute and was flabbergasted to think he was still posting there.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 10, 2022, 11:30:19 PM
In a GLINNERS TWITTER that he is promoting on his locked twitter account he is having a go at Irish author John Boyne, famous for being a gay man who refuses the label cis, writing a shit trans book called My Brother Jessica and the ahistorical Boy in the Striped Pajamas.

He's gotten into spats with Holocaust awareness organisations who just wanted to make clear some stuff about his book - which schools treat like it's factual (I actually did read this book in school in the late 2000s for English class, wasn't naive enough to believe it was nonfiction but apparently it does actually obfuscate students perception of what actually went on in the Holocaust).

Basically even a guy as shitty as Glinner isn't enough for whatever reason.

(https://i.imgur.com/yvRCsr0_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: QDRPHNC on May 10, 2022, 11:34:15 PM
Graham has no chill.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Alberon on May 10, 2022, 11:39:58 PM
Quote from: Ferris on May 10, 2022, 11:13:20 PMHe is so irrelevant as to be not worth banning.

That's quite sad really. Whole thing is sad of course.

The tit accepted my Twitter request recently (Hi, bananabrain!) so I've spent a few minutes reporting the worst of his tweets.

The low level of engagement is to be expected given that he's hiding in the shadows of Twitter. Musk might allow everyone back on Twitter, but will Linehan get his old account back?

Hope not. His old handle with so many dead accounts inflating his reach probably led him down this hole in the first place.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ferris on May 10, 2022, 11:49:04 PM
I mean, I wouldn't massively care if he was allowed back on twitter with a new account because I don't use it, and it would expose his monomania to a far wider audience. It's easy to ignore how far he's fallen if you don't really know who he is.

He'd never get above 1-2k followers, and his downfall would become more widely known. He'd end up just getting trolled to shit all day because he's made himself into a laughing stock. Like Jordan Peterson without the tenure.

I doubt he'd get his old account back because it's been gone a few years and I doubt they archive stuff that long, especially for banned accounts (lol).
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 10, 2022, 11:50:07 PM
"I too imagine a world without Twitter" - I'm pretty sure this was an old Gary Glinner episode.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mtpromises on May 10, 2022, 11:57:13 PM
Graham can't write a novel.  One of his funniest Mess Moments was talking about a dream he had, where he was able to write a good movie script.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 11, 2022, 12:01:09 AM
"OH I SUPPOSE I SHOULD BE DOING SITCOMS AND BRINGING JOY TO PEOPLE AND PUTTING MONEY IN MY POCKET INSTEAD OF DOING THIS VERY IMPORTANT FEMINIST WORK"

"...so lonely..."
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 11, 2022, 12:04:44 AM
He's not even angry he has been insulted. He is annoyed he was asked to consider that Twitter not exist.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: buttgammon on May 11, 2022, 12:27:39 AM
"Even more of a twat than me" - John Boyne

I would say that could be on the blurb of Linehan's book but he's so useless he couldn't even concentrate all of his hatred into the form of a book.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 11, 2022, 12:54:24 AM
Still the most extraordinary thing about all this to me is that he has no idea how much of a fucking arse he is making of himself.
Just no clue at all.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 11, 2022, 01:29:15 AM
Let's cheer ourselves up with a lovely picture.

(https://i.imgur.com/mZxxWkO.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 11, 2022, 01:36:40 AM
Oh Christ that's reminded me of the Messy Joe's 'joke'.
Not so shit it's good, just so shit it's confusing and embarrassing.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: YouCantWriteTearsJimmy on May 11, 2022, 06:47:33 AM
Checking his latest pseudo-twitter. Having a go at John Boyne now ... because uhm ... cowardice? He really can't imagine a world without twitter. This will never end for him.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 11, 2022, 07:06:30 AM
Quote from: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 11, 2022, 01:29:15 AMLet's cheer ourselves up with a lovely picture.
Barry Chuckle has let himself go.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 11, 2022, 07:17:54 AM
Imagine a world without Twitter? Nah, I'll just wait 5-10 years and see it myself.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 11, 2022, 09:08:06 AM
Has ol' Bananabreath said anything about congratulating his ex-wife and the rest of the Motherland team after their BAFTA win? The show he helped create and allowed the mother of his kids to breakout as a writer/showrunner/producer/creator etc in her own right?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Vroomo on May 11, 2022, 09:24:26 AM
Re: Motherland.  The voice over when they won the BAFTA said it was for their "third and final series"
I don't recall it being announced as such prior.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 11, 2022, 09:24:40 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/1Z6WJUn.png)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Guppy on May 11, 2022, 09:26:15 AM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on May 11, 2022, 09:08:06 AMHas ol' Bananabreath said anything about congratulating his ex-wife and the rest of the Motherland team after their BAFTA win? The show he helped create and allowed the mother of his kids to breakout as a writer/showrunner/producer/creator etc in her own right?
I'm glad her profile is rising. If you Google her name you get "writer/Graham Linehan's ex-wife" and four photos, three of which have Graham in them. Must be annoying.

edit: and the 4th photo is Sharon Horgan!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: YouCantWriteTearsJimmy on May 11, 2022, 09:56:59 AM
Quote from: The Guppy on May 11, 2022, 09:26:15 AMI'm glad her profile is rising. If you Google her name you get "writer/Graham Linehan's ex-wife" and four photos, three of which have Graham in them. Must be annoying.

edit: and the 4th photo is Sharon Horgan!

She's a good egg, she doesn't seem to care. Her social media is filled with normal stuff, with a streak of anarchistic humour ... i'm very chuffed she's got a Bafta in her own right and that she can tread out of that banana shadow, as far as the media is concerned.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 11, 2022, 10:16:49 AM
Quote from: The Guppy on May 11, 2022, 09:26:15 AMI'm glad her profile is rising. If you Google her name you get "writer/Graham Linehan's ex-wife" and four photos, three of which have Graham in them. Must be annoying.

edit: and the 4th photo is Sharon Horgan!

That should change soon. There's been a shit load of press photos after the BAFTA win.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 11, 2022, 10:42:16 AM
Quote from: Cold Meat Platter on May 11, 2022, 12:54:24 AMStill the most extraordinary thing about all this to me is that he has no idea how much of a fucking arse he is making of himself.
Just no clue at all.


Because he still believes he's going to have his day of reckoning where he's vindicated and the whole world will apologise to him for being right.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mippy on May 11, 2022, 10:48:12 AM
John Boyne's "cancel culture" novel sounded fucking awful, to be fair.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 11, 2022, 10:52:40 AM
The latest bananablog is a relentless display of extreme paranoia against numerous individuals and organisations he thinks are being coerced in part of a big conspiracy he's heroically fighting against, it's incredible anyone can read it and be on his side

Also still clinging on to the idea he and his movement "left-wing". I suppose it could be considered so if you see the omnipotent trans lobby as the establishment with all the liberal media on their right-hand. In cloud plantain land.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JaDanketies on May 11, 2022, 10:52:51 AM
John Boyne sent threatening legal letters to glinnerbane Aidan Comerfort and forced him to do some disingenuous apology and never mention him again, because he was mean about him on the internet.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 10:55:39 AM
It's such an unhealthy way to live. He spends every moment obsessing over trans people and his enemies and who has wronged him
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 11, 2022, 10:59:05 AM
What could be more bald than writing a paywalled press column about how you're logging off on Thursday. Literally no one cares you egg
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 11, 2022, 11:00:31 AM
The Boy in the Striped Banana
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 11, 2022, 11:12:16 AM
The Allison Bailey tribunal is interesting today as they're talking about her claimed drop in income in 2019.

For various reasons too tedious to go over, it looks like the headline figure of billings that show a significant drop is way off, not showing two months of high profile work she would only be able to bill for in 2020.

Her claim also fails to acknowledge three months of absence during that period.

Bailey now emphasises her perception of the change in clerking rather than an actual change in the tribunal Livestream.

If she can't prove an actual loss, it's game over for her.

https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets/status/1524316344149237766

The tone on Mumsnet seems to be shifting from triumphant to claiming even a loss would be a victory as now people will be able to see what a bunch of jerks Stonewall are.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on May 11, 2022, 11:14:36 AM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 10:55:39 AMIt's such an unhealthy way to live. He spends every moment obsessing over trans people and his enemies and who has wronged him

I think the latter point is far more important than the former. I honestly don't think he's as obsessed with trans people as he seems. It's just become a stick to beat his enemies with
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 11:16:14 AM
Quote from: Martin Van Buren Stan on May 11, 2022, 11:14:36 AMI think the latter point is far more important than the former. I honestly don't think he's as obsessed with trans people as he seems. It's just become a stick to beat his enemies with

You have a point. Look at the affection he has for Debbie Hayton, for example
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 11, 2022, 11:32:35 AM
Quote from: BennyHedgehog on May 11, 2022, 11:12:16 AMThe Allison Bailey tribunal is interesting today as they're talking about her claimed drop in income in 2019.

For various reasons too tedious to go over, it looks like the headline figure of billings that show a significant drop is way off, not showing two months of high profile work she would only be able to bill for in 2020.

Her claim also fails to acknowledge three months of absence during that period.

Bailey now emphasises her perception of the change in clerking rather than an actual change in the tribunal Livestream.

If she can't prove an actual loss, it's game over for her.

https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets/status/1524316344149237766

The tone on Mumsnet seems to be shifting from triumphant to claiming even a loss would be a victory as now people will be able to see what a bunch of jerks Stonewall are.

And now seems to be shifting her accusation of bias in clerking to unconscious bias rather than any overt directive from Stonewall or Garden Court.

This seems nuts. Stonewall reduced the cases allocated to her by creating an atmosphere that lead to the clerks unknowingly discriminating against her.

It sounds coo-coo bananas to me. Is anyone with any sort of legal background able to comment on this?

https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets/status/1524333777622810624

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: shiftwork2 on May 11, 2022, 11:56:26 AM
At last, Mark E Smith enters the fray.  It was only a matter of time.

Or at least Linehan assumes he would (if he were not dead) have been appalled by Marc Riley's use of he/him.  Presumably because he was a Northern bloody bloke!  Who would have had any opinion at all on his former band mate from 40 years previously.  Very, very thin manure.

The likeable Riley has 84.5k followers btw.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 12:01:55 PM
He complains when people 'trans the dead' and here he is 'GCing the dead'. I really do hate the way they always say 'this celebrity would never have stood for this'. Unless you knew them personally how can you say for sure? They tried to act like they knew better than Terry Pratchett's daughter
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Vroomo on May 11, 2022, 12:03:33 PM
And look, there's Moley rushing to agree with his Marc Riley rage in the comments.  Odious little prick.

Knowing Stewart Lee is a massive Fall fan, it's probably given him a Banana Boner to cite Mark E Smith.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 11, 2022, 12:07:02 PM
Quote from: Vroomo on May 11, 2022, 12:03:33 PMAnd there's Moley rushing to agree with his Marc Riley rage in the comments.

Ah, the ebullient Moley!

He should do one of his funny pictures about it, doesn't he know they're worth a 1000 words? Well, one word screamed over and over again in his case, but still.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: DreadedScotsman on May 11, 2022, 12:10:42 PM
Quote from: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 11, 2022, 01:29:15 AMLet's cheer ourselves up with a lovely picture.

(https://i.imgur.com/mZxxWkO.jpg)

That automatic profile picture filter site is gonna put Birdy Rose out of business
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 12:12:24 PM
So wait, all Marc Riley has done is have pronouns in his bio and this has led to being torn apart on the blog and in the comments, is that right?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 11, 2022, 12:15:59 PM
Quote from: DreadedScotsman on May 11, 2022, 12:10:42 PMThat automatic profile picture filter site is gonna put Birdy Rose out of business

(https://i.imgur.com/KaMMPyQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 11, 2022, 12:18:16 PM
I don't reckon Smith would bother with pronouns. I also don't reckon he'd give a shit if Riley did or not.

I don't know, he's dead and I never knew him.

Fucking guarantee he wouldn't find Linehan any other than laughable though.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 11, 2022, 12:21:03 PM
Quote from: Vroomo on May 11, 2022, 12:03:33 PMAnd look, there's Moley rushing to agree with his Marc Riley rage in the comments.  Odious little prick.

Knowing Stewart Lee is a massive Fall fan, it's probably given him a Banana Boner to cite Mark E Smith.

That's it.

What's your favourite Mr Man?

Er..Mr Uppity

GC.

What's your favourite ice cream flavour?

Raspberry Ripple

GC Flavour

etc etc etc
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: YouCantWriteTearsJimmy on May 11, 2022, 12:21:26 PM
Quote from: DreadedScotsman on May 11, 2022, 12:10:42 PMThat automatic profile picture filter site is gonna put Birdy Rose out of business

Heh, as if Birdy get business based on her talents :D
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Guppy on May 11, 2022, 12:28:26 PM
Marc Riley is captured? Fuck these TRAs! Give em an inch and they'll take a Lard.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 11, 2022, 12:29:43 PM
Quote from: shiftwork2 on May 11, 2022, 11:56:26 AMAt last, Mark E Smith enters the fray.  It was only a matter of time.

Or at least Linehan assumes he would (if he were not dead) have been appalled by Marc Riley's use of he/him.  Presumably because he was a Northern bloody bloke!  Who would have had any opinion at all on his former band mate from 40 years previously.  Very, very thin manure.

The likeable Riley has 84.5k followers btw.

Smith and Riley didn't exactly end up good pals either. It wouldn't be that surprising if Riley put pronouns in his bio just to annoy the imaginary version of  Mark E Smith's ghost Graham made up.

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 12:30:53 PM
It's funny how they claim Mark E Smith wouldn't have been trans supportive as he's Northern and working class because a while ago a lot of them were furious that Sleaford Mods are trans supportive. Those famous middle class southerners Sleaford Mods... oh...
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 11, 2022, 12:37:44 PM
I'm not sure why Smith is some sort of important touchstone in this debate, I'm not aware of him being a bigot but there's plenty of evidence of him being a pretty odd misanthropic bully.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 11, 2022, 12:38:06 PM
John Boyne

(https://i.imgur.com/K4ka3am.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/60Ss2kH.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/9h0cvyj.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/u5gaGZ9.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 11, 2022, 12:41:29 PM
fucking lol at the first sentence of Glinner's reply.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wrec on May 11, 2022, 12:44:41 PM
Considering Linehan's "I made you!" outbursts, he assumes a transactional relationship existed between MES and Riley, where the latter has to worry about what his former employer *might* think about his actions 40 years after turfing him out of the band.

Anyway, as contrarian and self-contradicting as Smith always was, he worked with Leigh Bowery and Michael Clarke in the 80s when that would have raised eyebrows in indie circles. Also I'm an Instagram follower of the partner he spent his final years with and she's not someone who'd leave a transphobic comment unchallenged.

A personal aside: years ago I very briefly befriended an English guy who was getting into the Fall at the time and came along with me to a gig. He mentioned having watched the Cruiser's Creek video and was very disturbed by Bowery's presence in it. The same evening he shared his detailed theories on Jewish people. We didn't speak again!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Vroomo on May 11, 2022, 12:47:07 PM
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/whzr4GHf9X825v0n3BzsbRmoy-J1fJueu5gILVITR-Te_kHI3UOdgmKETo6d3Lf419NGy46Wo5vwArWgYxEtfEWhYt0tNRStyxecooFGUgvh0gFO39YYUxjpn9JmHSO8hqZ8betqQKw=s1600)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 11, 2022, 12:48:56 PM
When did I deadname, except for all those times I did, and those people deserved it
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Alberon on May 11, 2022, 12:49:40 PM
Transactional relationships is all Linehan understands.

It's the only trans thing he does believe in.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 11, 2022, 12:52:16 PM
Jesus Christ, Graham is totally lost. "I don't see an apology in there". Fucking bananas!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 12:55:15 PM
From that comment exchange with John Boyne I think it has given us an insight into how he would have reacted towards friends who tried to steer him away from this path

John replied:

There's no apology because none is needed. I'll leave it there as I'm not looking for an ongoing dialogue with you on the subject, I just wanted to clarify that I never "fed you to the wolves", although I understand that you feel differently. Take care.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: YouCantWriteTearsJimmy on May 11, 2022, 01:04:24 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 12:55:15 PMFrom that comment exchange with John Boyne I think it has given us an insight into how he would have reacted towards friends who tried to steer him away from this path

John replied:

There's no apology because none is needed. I'll leave it there as I'm not looking for an ongoing dialogue with you on the subject, I just wanted to clarify that I never "fed you to the wolves", although I understand that you feel differently. Take care.

Drama in the comments with Cap'n Starky. OMG, IS THIS THE END OF GRAHAM LINEHAN? No, of course not, this will just keep going and going and going.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 01:06:18 PM
'When did I misgender' He misgenders and deadnames on a daily basis on that blog. He recently said he refused to call Katy Montgomerie by her name as 'that's a name stolen from women'. He's a vile loathsome prick
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 11, 2022, 01:07:20 PM
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on May 11, 2022, 12:41:29 PMfucking lol at the first sentence of Glinner's reply.

I genuinely did belly laugh at that. Was not expecting that at all. Why does he expect an apology and what even for hahaha he's such a cunt.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 01:11:09 PM
Quote from: retsuza on May 11, 2022, 01:07:20 PMI genuinely did belly laugh at that. Was not expecting that at all. Why does he expect an apology and what even for hahaha he's such a cunt.

He thinks John Boyne threw him to the wolves. Not sure what the background is there but it's surely obvious that he doesn't need any help in being one of the most hated men in the UK. He does that all by himself
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 11, 2022, 01:12:10 PM
"When did I misgender" is such a bold faced lie that I actually cannot believe he pretends he doesn't.

YOU LITERALLY GO ON TELLY AND SAY TO YOUR TWAT FRIEND ANDREW DOYLE THAT YOU LOVE TO DO MISGENDERING (https://youtu.be/I1L_NNclTlw)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 01:14:32 PM
In the same interview he flip flopped from 'they said I misgendered' to 'It's not misgendering, it's correctly sexing'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 11, 2022, 01:18:28 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 01:14:32 PMIn the same interview he flip flopped from 'they said I misgendered' to 'It's not misgendering, it's correctly sexing'

Yeah, I think that might actually be what he is underhandedly saying.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 01:20:24 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on May 11, 2022, 01:18:28 PMYeah, I think that might actually be what he is underhandedly saying.

Yeah so disingenuous and dishonest

Also LOL at 'because I wanted to keep my Twitter account'. How did that work out for you champ?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 11, 2022, 01:24:32 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 01:06:18 PM'When did I misgender' He misgenders and deadnames on a daily basis on that blog. He recently said he refused to call Katy Montgomerie by her name as 'that's a name stolen from women'. He's a vile loathsome prick

That came to mind for me too about Katy. He's almost implying he thinks she's a sex offender .. just for being trans. He and his fans are so cruel to her and it feels to me part of it is she's effective, funny, well-liked (and they're not).

Amazing how Boyne explains how he cherry picks stories about sex offenders who are trans and his excuse for his actions is that he only talks about trans people who are sex offenders
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Vroomo on May 11, 2022, 01:26:23 PM
There's another post over on his substack, a Glinner & Dennis Kavanagh collab brought to life by the ever helpful Moley.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Jumblegraws on May 11, 2022, 01:27:24 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 11, 2022, 12:38:06 PM(https://i.imgur.com/60Ss2kH.jpg)
If I've understood this correctly, Greybum seems to be making the arbitrary rule that Boyne is only allowed to criticise him for Twitter stuff, thereby making Boyne technically wrong for saying he misgendered people. That's pathetically childish (albeit not notably so by BC's standards). And obviously it's a total lie to say he never misgendered people on Twitter in any case.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 11, 2022, 01:28:43 PM
Quote from: retsuza on May 11, 2022, 01:24:32 PMThat came to mind for me too about Katy. He's almost implying he thinks she's a sex offender .. just for being trans.
Now now, be fair. He also deadnames grifters.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: pigamus on May 11, 2022, 01:30:51 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 01:06:18 PM'When did I misgender' He misgenders and deadnames on a daily basis on that blog. He recently said he refused to call Katy Montgomerie by her name as 'that's a name stolen from women'. He's a vile loathsome prick

That's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 11, 2022, 01:40:31 PM
Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 11, 2022, 01:28:43 PMNow now, be fair. He also deadnames grifters.

Yeah I would apologise for being a bit unfair there but I genuinely think he was trying to give some plausible deniability there. Grifters is such a wide term that it can be applied to pretty much anyone. It's like "woke", it means whatever the person using it wants it to mean.

And he clearly believes or is trying to push the narrative that trans people are sex offenders or groomers just for transitioning.

He is a vile bigot.

Quote from: Jumblegraws on May 11, 2022, 01:27:24 PMIf I've understood this correctly, Greybum seems to be making the arbitrary rule that Boyne is only allowed to criticise him for Twitter stuff, thereby making Boyne technically wrong for saying he misgendered people. That's pathetically childish (albeit not notably so by BC's standards). And obviously it's a total lie to say he never misgendered people on Twitter in any case.

What Boyne doesn't understand is that Graham was behind a force field at the time, and it deflects bullets, and although Boyne can move at infinity miles a second, Graham can do infinity plus one.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 01:54:35 PM
Haha his response to John Boyne:

'go fuck yourself, you careerist coward'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: TommyTurnips on May 11, 2022, 01:59:49 PM
Quote from: retsuza on May 11, 2022, 01:40:31 PMWhat Boyne doesn't understand is that Graham was behind a force field at the time, and it deflects bullets, and although Boyne can move at infinity miles a second, Graham can do infinity plus one.

And Graham had his fingers crossed behind his back the whole time. Jinx, no comebacks.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wrec on May 11, 2022, 02:02:29 PM
A minor point with just so much going on! in that Boyne post but I wish people would refrain from using the word "genius" anywhere near BC and his work*, or suggesting that his continual descent to increasingly abject levels of hitherto unimaginable desolation is robbing us of a comic meisterwerk.


*Yes Ted was good but Dermot Morgan etc etc

Edit: I done a Glinner and called him Boyle lol
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 02:06:06 PM
I'm not defending John Boyne but that was a very reasonable comment, he mildly criticized his tactics but that's about it. And he gets told to go fuck himself and is called names. It really does give an insight into what it must have been like for any friends who dared to suggest he take a step back
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wrec on May 11, 2022, 02:14:07 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 01:54:35 PMHaha his response to John Boyne:

'go fuck yourself, you careerist coward'

And this is someone who did stick up for JK Rowling
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 11, 2022, 02:14:41 PM
Quote from: wrec on May 11, 2022, 02:02:29 PM*Yes Ted was good but Dermot Morgan etc etc


Ted is good, but one thing I've found from my recent re-watch is that the moments where it's not, it's very much not. A lot of season 3 is just naff.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: RHX on May 11, 2022, 02:15:48 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 02:06:06 PMI'm not defending John Boyne but that was a very reasonable comment, he mildly criticized his tactics but that's about it. And he gets told to go fuck himself and is called names. It really does give an insight into what it must have been like for any friends who dared to suggest he take a step back

Oh absolutely, Boyne seems otherwise like a bit of a pillock but Graham's response to that almost fawning comment was incredibly off-kilter. It wouldn't shock me if anyone BC has considered "peaked" in real life has just been trying to placate him in case of a reaction like this.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: boki on May 11, 2022, 02:22:17 PM
Quote from: wrec on May 11, 2022, 02:14:07 PMAnd this is someone who did stick up for JK Rowling
It's going to be a glorious day when she's finally forced to admit what she thinks of Grimmun's recent 'work'.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 11, 2022, 02:24:33 PM
Imagine if she did finally acknowledge him and she was broadly closer to Boyne's way of thinking: that he's a Twitter obsessed weirdo who harasses people (if she did it would be pot = kettle). Imagine the banana split meltdown that would cause.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 02:24:58 PM
Quote from: RHX on May 11, 2022, 02:15:48 PMOh absolutely, Boyne seems otherwise like a bit of a pillock but Graham's response to that almost fawning comment was incredibly off-kilter. It wouldn't shock me if anyone BC has considered "peaked" in real life has just been trying to placate him in case of a reaction like this.

'Your praise is meaningless to me'. What an arrogant twonk! I guess he considers this practice for his day of reckoning when he gets to reject all his enemies who are on their knees begging for forgiveness 'your excuses don't impress me!'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 11, 2022, 02:26:58 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on May 11, 2022, 02:24:33 PMImagine if she did finally acknowledge him and she was broadly closer to Boyne's way of thinking: that he's a Twitter obsessed weirdo who harasses people (if she did it would be pot = kettle). Imagine the banana split meltdown that would cause.

She's very much of the crew that don't mention him ever, yer Bindels, Moores, Forstaters etc.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 11, 2022, 02:30:57 PM
It remains very, very funny that she refuses to acknowledge him in any way shape or form.

It's clearly deliberate and grows more so with every breathless pleading namedrop made by Linehan.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 02:31:01 PM
Moore and Forstater have appeared on the Mess
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: buttgammon on May 11, 2022, 02:31:58 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on May 11, 2022, 02:14:41 PMTed is good, but one thing I've found from my recent re-watch is that the moments where it's not, it's very much not. A lot of season 3 is just naff.

I rewatched it a couple of years ago and although I was pleased to realise that my enjoyment wasn't tarnished too much by Linehan's behaviour, there was a palpable drop off in the third series. There are some real misfires, particularly the episode with the sheep. I don't like The IT Crowd either and although Black Books is good, his role was minimal after the first series and it owes at least as much to Seinfeld as his other shows do anyway.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 11, 2022, 02:38:59 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ObJ8cw8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/zR6i7We.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/hDwMqYz.png)


Quote from: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 02:31:01 PMMoore and Forstater have appeared on the Mess

Fair enough
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 02:49:00 PM
 'Doesn't have the grace', that's hilarious coming from GL
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 11, 2022, 02:59:14 PM
Being called Careerist by him as a pejorative is like a homeless man outside your flat mocking you for having warm shelter.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 03:02:34 PM
Other people he has called careerist: Jesse Signal, Katie Herzog, Helen Lewis. Anyone who criticises him is 'careerist'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 11, 2022, 03:07:59 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 11, 2022, 12:38:06 PMJohn Boyne

(https://i.imgur.com/K4ka3am.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/60Ss2kH.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/9h0cvyj.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/u5gaGZ9.jpg)

Imagine losing an argument to someone who had previously lost an argument with the Auschwitz Museum. A hilarious new low for Graham.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 11, 2022, 03:09:47 PM
Linehan knows writers who have careers, and they're all cowards.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 03:12:48 PM
He's always complaining how trans people/ advocates are too scared to debate him but when he's telling someone to 'go fuck yourself' I can see why trans people and advocates would think 'fuck that'. If that's how he speaks to to someone who is *on his side* one can only imagine how he would speak to anyone else
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Alberon on May 11, 2022, 03:18:37 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 03:02:34 PMOther people he has called careerist: Jesse Signal, Katie Herzog, Helen Lewis. Anyone who criticises him is 'careerist'

To be fair 'careerist' is one accusation you can't level at Linehan.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: shoulders on May 11, 2022, 03:25:06 PM
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/health-and-care-bill-factsheets/health-and-care-bill-banning-virginity-testing

I presume neither BC nor other anti-trans activists purporting to be feminists have mentioned this? Seems to have a positive intent that safeguards anyone with vaginas. Presumably they're all over it?

Perhaps a crude parallel but anti-trans activists aren't 100% against genitalia checks, are they?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 11, 2022, 03:34:20 PM
Only to Graham Linehan - proud non career haver - is having a career an insult.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 03:48:04 PM
He is raging that there are many prominent GC people who have retained careers & marriages
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 11, 2022, 03:52:55 PM
It's true, at this point he essentially hates everyone* for various reasons, whether they're on "his side" or not.

*Except Arty Morty
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 11, 2022, 03:58:52 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 03:48:04 PMHe is raging that there are many prominent GC people who have retained careers & marriages

It's because he was never cancelled, he just stopped doing his job. JK Rowling (JK Rowling) maybe a bananacunt too, but she does take a break every so often to write a book or movie.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: filthytrans on May 11, 2022, 04:14:16 PM
I've been lurking these threads for a while but only just joined, and, as someone that Bananacunt has actually talked about on his shitstack, I'm glad the vast majority of people are just fucking NORMAL.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: greencalx on May 11, 2022, 04:44:48 PM
Quote from: retsuza on May 11, 2022, 01:40:31 PMGrifters is such a wide term that it can be applied to pretty much anyone. It's like "woke", it means whatever the person using it wants it to mean.

This has been my sense for a while, but wondered if it was just me being behind-the-curve on internet discourse, again.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 04:46:21 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on May 11, 2022, 03:58:52 PMIt's because he was never cancelled, he just stopped doing his job. JK Rowling (JK Rowling) maybe a bananacunt too, but she does take a break every so often to write a book or movie.

And she is universally loved by the GC movement. Outside of the glincels he's either seen as an oafish idiot or a dangerous hindrance to the movement, depending on who you speak to
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Pimhole on May 11, 2022, 05:01:52 PM
Quote from: filthytrans on May 11, 2022, 04:14:16 PMI've been lurking these threads for a while but only just joined, and, as someone that Bananacunt has actually talked about on his shitstack, I'm glad the vast majority of people are just fucking NORMAL.

Well I've NEVER been so insulted etc.

Welcome aboard!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: filthytrans on May 11, 2022, 05:04:30 PM
Quote from: Pimhole on May 11, 2022, 05:01:52 PMWell I've NEVER been so insulted etc.

Welcome aboard!
Haha, normal to the extent that you're not all rabid GCers, more than that I can't say.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Guppy on May 11, 2022, 06:23:12 PM
Oh-oo-oh, you think you're special
Oh-oo-oh, you think you're something else
Okay, so you're a novelist

That don't impress me much
So you got the brains, but have you got the touch
Now don't get me wrong, I don't care you like Ted
Cause that won't keep me warm in my racing car bed
That don't impress me much
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 11, 2022, 06:36:43 PM
Are you a lesbian?

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Bumlord on May 11, 2022, 06:39:23 PM
Tbf to Graham, that's my standard chat up line.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 11, 2022, 06:44:28 PM
Using his own hair judgement, I can only assume Linehan is some sort of thatched cottage.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mtpromises on May 11, 2022, 07:04:07 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 11, 2022, 06:36:43 PMAre you a lesbian?


He's had some great soundbites  about his ladies lately.

"Kiera knows nothing" referring to Kiera Bell retweeting right wing "great reset" conspiracy bullshit.

On GB news he called Meghan Murphy "soft spoken".  Meghan Murphy is an obnoxious asshole.

BC is so condescending towards women, I think he views feminism as "women are pathetic and helpless and need protection".
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: TommyTurnips on May 11, 2022, 07:05:48 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 11, 2022, 06:36:43 PMAre you a lesbian?



Wow. King of women Graham Linehan does it again guys. Remember, if you meet a lady and you are unsure if she's a lesbian, just look for the short hair. That's the giveaway tell tale sign.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 11, 2022, 07:10:13 PM
Quote from: filthytrans on May 11, 2022, 04:14:16 PMI've been lurking these threads for a while but only just joined, and, as someone that Bananacunt has actually talked about on his shitstack, I'm glad the vast majority of people are just fucking NORMAL.

Welcome, and any other lurkers, come join the piss on Glinner party
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 07:14:39 PM
Quote from: mtpromises on May 11, 2022, 07:04:07 PMHe's had some great soundbites  about his ladies lately.

"Kiera knows nothing" referring to Kiera Bell retweeting right wing "great reset" conspiracy bullshit.

On GB news he called Meghan Murphy "soft spoken".  Meghan Murphy is an obnoxious asshole.

BC is so condescending towards women, I think he views feminism as "women are pathetic and helpless and need protection".

Meghan Murphy is attractive and I think he sees her as some sort of damsel in distress. You're so spot on that he views women as weak and helpless

Also telling a woman 'I thought you were a dyke because of your short hair'. I thought they were gender critical?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Juan K Perros on May 11, 2022, 07:15:31 PM
In 1671 threads from now's time, can we call the next one 'Rattle of the Boyne, 1690 bananas' please?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 11, 2022, 07:16:51 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on May 11, 2022, 03:58:52 PMIt's because he was never cancelled, he just stopped doing his job. JK Rowling (JK Rowling) maybe a bananacunt too, but she does take a break every so often to write a book or movie.

I dunno, I cynically imagine some publishers/producers will be making some cost:value calculations and reckoning Rowling is much less of a roi liability than Glinner.

Partly because his obsessiveness means he probably won't do it and will spend all his time having bennies on the internet instead but also because he's obviously just a massive social hand-grenade at this point.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Brundle-Fly on May 11, 2022, 07:23:28 PM
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 11, 2022, 07:31:56 PM
https://youtu.be/YHxiOQzN7vc

Racecar bed drop 30 seconds in
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 11, 2022, 07:34:11 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/O2wSUHE.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: RicoMNKN on May 11, 2022, 07:41:49 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 07:14:39 PMAlso telling a woman 'I thought you were a dyke because of your short hair'. I thought they were gender critical?

Her response that she's not a lesbian because she's married with children also doesn't feel very GC.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 11, 2022, 07:48:25 PM
I'm pretty sure I'd never call a lesbian a dyke unless I knew her extremely well, or she'd said it was ok. Definitely feels like one of those words that's not yours to use in casual conversation, but that could just be me.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mtpromises on May 11, 2022, 07:53:38 PM
Bit of trivia, the lesbian in that Curb Your Enthusiasm clip was on the American Gogglebox remake, The People's Couch.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: pigamus on May 11, 2022, 07:57:37 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 03:02:34 PMOther people he has called careerist: Jesse Signal,

Well that's a red flag.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: TommyTurnips on May 11, 2022, 08:00:49 PM
Quote from: retsuza on May 11, 2022, 07:31:56 PMhttps://youtu.be/YHxiOQzN7vc

Racecar bed drop 30 seconds in

The first genuinely funny thing he has said in a while.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 11, 2022, 08:00:55 PM
Quote from: RicoMNKN on May 11, 2022, 07:41:49 PMHer response that she's not a lesbian because she's married with children also doesn't feel very GC.


Say that to Caroline Farrow or Baroness Nicholson and you'll get short shrift.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: canadagoose on May 11, 2022, 08:09:10 PM
Quote from: mtpromises on May 11, 2022, 07:04:07 PMI think he views feminism as "women are pathetic and helpless and need protection".
This is just GC "radical" "feminism" in a nutshell, tbh.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 11, 2022, 08:16:14 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 11, 2022, 06:36:43 PMAre you a lesbian?

fucking hell he actually said d**e

Quote from: Juan K Perros on May 11, 2022, 07:15:31 PMIn 1671 threads from now's time, can we call the next one 'Rattle of the Boyne, 1690 bananas' please?
Oh he'll be fighting with someone else entirely by the... no he'll still be cursing John Boyne's name to the skies won't he
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 11, 2022, 09:08:05 PM
Quote from: TommyTurnips on May 11, 2022, 08:00:49 PMThe first genuinely funny thing he has said in a while.

Cribbing his best (only?) recent joke from a load of failed comedy writers. Shameful.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: DrGreggles on May 11, 2022, 09:09:41 PM
And he thinks the joke is that it's a poor quality bed.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Small Potatoes on May 11, 2022, 09:17:41 PM
Quote from: BananaSian on May 11, 2022, 09:09:41 PMNice interview.
Katherine Deves is married with 3 children...stay faithful girl!

Personal point...
Free speech, free press but don't marginalise eg trans eg immigrants etc!
 When a JW does wrong its right in your face in the press.

Oh Sian, you're as incomprehensible and loopy as ever. Never change.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 09:31:22 PM
John Boyne is now the subject of a totally balanced and reasonable blog post


'John, I'm sure your name will become synonymous with the cowardice and careerism that has marked this era, but beyond that I wish you nothing but the obscurity that is the long-term reward of all mediocre authors.

Go to hell. And take care.'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 11, 2022, 09:35:19 PM
Hate Edmonds? I don't hate Edmonds, I barely even think of the man.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 11, 2022, 09:37:13 PM
Needless to say, Linehan had the last laugh.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 11, 2022, 09:57:37 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 09:31:22 PMJohn Boyne is now the subject of a totally balanced and reasonable blog post


'John, I'm sure your name will become synonymous with the cowardice and careerism that has marked this era, but beyond that I wish you nothing but the obscurity that is the long-term reward of all mediocre authors.

Go to hell. And take care.'
what a pathetic bastard

Ted's speech where he settles old scores at the Golden Cleric Awards was obviously wish fulfilment for Glinner
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Jumblegraws on May 11, 2022, 10:01:17 PM
I'll bet that Pricktus Glin wrestled with the urge to put aside his differences with Boyne before defaulting to taking a flamethrower to the bridge. And I bet he'll have bouts of remorse intermittently for the next few days. Miserable git.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wrec on May 11, 2022, 10:06:45 PM
Boyne duly added to his Arya Stark / Partridge in a Pear Tree list of names
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 11, 2022, 10:19:29 PM
Bonkers

(https://i.imgur.com/Ncx9DQJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Elfking on May 11, 2022, 10:46:53 PM
Ah, dang, they sussed it out. The Trans World Order is kidnapping black women to harvest their wombs and put them in men who are just getting off on it.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 11, 2022, 11:02:53 PM
Bit off topic but it's a trans positive post.

I was reminded one of my favourite 2010s youtuber who interviewed people and was very funny.

She was gone for a long time and that was normal for that type of youtuber who just disappears at some point for whatever reason. You can't keep doing that exact same thing on YouTube for more than a decade.

She ended up coming back last year with the explainer of why she'd been gone

https://youtu.be/cGgVoqr78gk

Surprise gender transition story. And she is still very funny, she has a very personal and interesting story.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 11, 2022, 11:24:41 PM
to be fair I don't think the racecar bed is totally from us, other places have come up with it independently

although it's not really apt now he's not in a Bachelor Arms anymore, but a fucking penthouse in Norwich city centre
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: filthytrans on May 12, 2022, 12:01:46 AM
Quote from: idunnosomename on May 11, 2022, 11:24:41 PMto be fair I don't think the racecar bed is totally from us, other places have come up with it independently

although it's not really apt now he's not in a Bachelor Arms anymore, but a fucking penthouse in Norwich city centre
Yeah, I've seen a load of trans people on Twitter using the racecar bed joke against him. Guess we have to stop now he's used it himself...
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 12, 2022, 12:20:57 AM
I mean it doesn't work now because he's not a disenfranchised divorced dad like Kirk van Houten. he's an aggressive leader of a conservative cult who actually isn't short of money at all
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ferris on May 12, 2022, 01:11:24 AM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 09:31:22 PMJohn Boyne is now the subject of a totally balanced and reasonable blog post


'John, I'm sure your name will become synonymous with the cowardice and careerism that has marked this era, but beyond that I wish you nothing but the obscurity that is the long-term reward of all mediocre authors.

Go to hell. And take care.'

Is that real?!

I'd consider that a bit broad for partridge.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ferris on May 12, 2022, 01:15:13 AM
Quote from: idunnosomename on May 12, 2022, 12:20:57 AMI mean it doesn't work now because he's not a disenfranchised divorced dad like Kirk van Houten. he's an aggressive leader of a conservative cult who actually isn't short of money at all

True, (and I've mentioned it a few times already) but the satisfaction I get every time I see someone I don't know refer to him as "bananas" on a platform I don't use has been great, because as far as I'm aware that's 100% CaB (and 100% one of mine).

(Maybe not, who knows - the internet is a big place. If he's reading, I don't think I can be sued on the basis of using the term bananas to describe someone what has gone bananas, m'lud.)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 12, 2022, 04:09:54 AM
Quote from: Ferris on May 12, 2022, 01:15:13 AMTrue, (and I've mentioned it a few times already) but the satisfaction I get every time I see someone I don't know refer to him as "bananas" on a platform I don't use has been great, because as far as I'm aware that's 100% CaB (and 100% one of mine).

(Maybe not, who knows - the internet is a big place. If he's reading, I don't think I can be sued on the basis of using the term bananas to describe someone what has gone bananas, m'lud.)

The beautiful thing is that not only is calling him bananas defensible as your own opinion, it's also outright provable with his behaviour over the last few years.

Besides, what's he going to sue for? Damage to his reputation or income? You'd just point out that he destroyed both all by himself and the case would be found in your favour in about 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 12, 2022, 04:15:09 AM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on May 11, 2022, 03:58:52 PMIt's because he was never cancelled, he just stopped doing his job. JK Rowling (JK Rowling) maybe a bananacunt too, but she does take a break every so often to write a book or movie.
You say that but it'll be interesting to see what her work rate is for the next couple of years given her recent transition to more full-time social media bigotry and point-scoring dopamine mining.



Quote from: TommyTurnips on May 11, 2022, 07:05:48 PMWow. King of women Graham Linehan does it again guys. Remember, if you meet a lady and you are unsure if she's a lesbian, just look for the short hair. That's the giveaway tell tale sign.

Of the women I know, the one with the longest hair - of quite astounding length - is gay-and-a-half.

Her wife's hair is also not short
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 12, 2022, 04:55:23 AM
Quote from: DreadedScotsman on May 11, 2022, 12:10:42 PMThat automatic profile picture filter site is gonna put Birdy Rose out of business

Like this?

(https://i.imgur.com/0MUMFxd.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 12, 2022, 07:13:48 AM
Quote from: Ferris on May 12, 2022, 01:15:13 AMTrue, (and I've mentioned it a few times already) but the satisfaction I get every time I see someone I don't know refer to him as "bananas" on a platform I don't use has been great, because as far as I'm aware that's 100% CaB (and 100% one of mine).

(Maybe not, who knows - the internet is a big place. If he's reading, I don't think I can be sued on the basis of using the term bananas to describe someone what has gone bananas, m'lud.)

(https://frinkiac.com/meme/S04E22/634166.jpg?b64lines=ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICBmZXJyaXMKICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAKCgoKCg==)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 12, 2022, 09:56:07 AM
Quote from: Ferris on May 12, 2022, 01:11:24 AMIs that real?!

I'd consider that a bit broad for partridge.


It's a direct quote from the SGB!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 12, 2022, 10:51:18 AM
QuoteThat is a very long comment and I don't see the apology in there.

Fucking brilliant.  Sod you naysayers, Graham's still got some comedy chops!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: pigamus on May 12, 2022, 11:06:32 AM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 11, 2022, 09:31:22 PM'John, I'm sure your name will become synonymous with the cowardice and careerism that has marked this era, but beyond that I wish you nothing but the obscurity that is the long-term reward of all mediocre authors.

Joanne Rowling, for instance
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 12, 2022, 11:08:46 AM
The irony is that J.K. Rowling says nice things about trans people and tries to keep her rhetoric civil, and that really, she fits all the characteristics of a Graham Linehan "careerist".

If she ever acknowledged him it would be an exact second his heart rips in two moment.

Ralph
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 12, 2022, 11:15:52 AM
From PotterWiki:

The character of 'Ralph' is notable for being the only one that failed writer and accomplished dickhead Graham Linehan can remember and, upon checking, doesn't actually exist in the Potterverse.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: canadagoose on May 12, 2022, 11:18:23 AM
Quote from: idunnosomename on May 12, 2022, 11:08:46 AMThe irony is that J.K. Rowling says nice things about trans people and tries to keep her rhetoric civil, and that really, she fits all the characteristics of a Graham Linehan "careerist".

If she ever acknowledged him it would be an exact second his heart rips in two moment.

Ralph
*said. She's going down the GC spiral pretty quickly. I bet you she'll be shouting "GROOMERS! NONCES! WOMEN-ERASERS!" at random passers-by in Barnton by November.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 12, 2022, 11:27:08 AM
all without crediting Graham.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 12, 2022, 11:28:44 AM
Quote from: canadagoose on May 12, 2022, 11:18:23 AM*said. She's going down the GC spiral pretty quickly. I bet you she'll be shouting "GROOMERS! NONCES! WOMEN-ERASERS!" at random passers-by in Barnton by November*.

*The window of her mansion.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: superthunderstingcar on May 12, 2022, 11:30:30 AM
"O Genie of the Lamp, I wish to avoid the obscurity that is the long-term reward of all mediocre authors."

"Your wish is my command."

"No, not like that, Johnny of the Lamp. Beard!"
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 12, 2022, 11:34:11 AM
Calling a woman a dyke because she has short hair? Telling on yourself there, Greybum. My mum's hair is way shorter than mine, but only one of us is attracted to women and it isn't her. Unless my dad and both my stepdads were beards all along.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 12, 2022, 12:21:56 PM
According to Linehan, gay people are not allowed to reclaim the word "queer", but he's allowed to ask women if they are "dykes."

Not even his first time using the word actually:

(https://i.postimg.cc/VNCNR9f4/IMG-20220512-121921.jpg)

Similarly, it's wrong for trans activists to refer to "terfs", but it's fine for Linehan to try and flog t-shirts with the phrase plastered all over it.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 12, 2022, 12:30:32 PM
They say that TERF is a slur but it's a term that radical feminists came up with
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 12, 2022, 12:45:52 PM
How is it even a slur? It's just saying that they're radical feminists who exclude trans women, which is completely accurate.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 12, 2022, 12:46:33 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 12, 2022, 12:30:32 PMThey say that TERF is a slur but it's a term that radical feminists came up with

Also they're allowed to use it because they are 'reclaiming the slur'

(https://i.imgur.com/kmwSL3f.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/LdbIHXb.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 12, 2022, 12:52:47 PM
So they're reclaiming a term they came up with in the first place. Ha. It reminds me of how they made up the term 'transwomen'. GL said in his substack that a new years resolution is not to use transwoman. They made up a term and then decided it shouldn't be used
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 12, 2022, 12:54:52 PM
You mean like when LGBT people call themselves queer and Mumsnetters get in a flap about it?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 12, 2022, 01:11:39 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/dIir4dp.png)

Graham "I don't hate trans people" Linehan: The only concessions I'll give trans people is complete exlclusion so that they eventually go away forever.

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 12, 2022, 01:19:18 PM
A 'fad'. Jesus, does he think Debbie Hayton is a 'fad'. In his deranged post to John Boyne yesterday he spoke about knowing loads of trans people (trans people who agree with me), does he think they are fads too? Imagine saying that people being gay is a fad
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 12, 2022, 01:21:05 PM
Well I came up with Maya Floorsharter* and I look forward to her reclaiming it.


*it's possible someone else also came up with it  independently, it's right there.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ayasakura on May 12, 2022, 01:28:19 PM
According to twitter and people following the case, the judge has had to halt proceedings in Allison Bailey's trial more than once today - because GC people in the chat keep trying to interfere with the proceedings. Or just straight up being offensive.

If this was happening in a public gallery in person you'd probably get done for contempt, or at least threatened with it? Awful.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 12, 2022, 01:34:46 PM
Quote from: Dr Rock on May 12, 2022, 01:21:05 PMWell I came up with Maya Floorsharter* and I look forward to her reclaiming it.


*it's possible someone else also came up with it  independently, it's right there.

It's pretty good. A favourite of mine that I can't remember is from here or Twitter is Julia Hartley-Brewer being referred to as Fartley-Pooer.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 12, 2022, 01:38:34 PM
Quote from: Ayasakura on May 12, 2022, 01:28:19 PMAccording to twitter and people following the case, the judge has had to halt proceedings in Allison Bailey's trial more than once today - because GC people in the chat keep trying to interfere with the proceedings. Or just straight up being offensive.

If this was happening in a public gallery in person you'd probably get done for contempt, or at least threatened with it? Awful.

I was wondering if they can still bring contempt of court charges for them. I believe they had to register to have access.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: drummersaredeaf on May 12, 2022, 01:38:55 PM
More dispatches from the frontlines of employment tribunals:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10808941/Calling-man-bald-sex-harassment-employment-tribunal-rules.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline

Almost certainly worthy of the GB board too.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Bumlord on May 12, 2022, 01:42:58 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on May 12, 2022, 01:38:34 PMI was wondering if they can still bring contempt of court charges for them. I believe they had to register to have access.

Why is there a chat function linked to a court case?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Zetetic on May 12, 2022, 01:58:51 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 12, 2022, 12:52:47 PMSo they're reclaiming a term they came up with in the first place.
1) "Trans-exclusionary radical feminist (TERF)" wasn't coined or popularised by a trans-exclusionary radical feminist, certainly not one applying it to themselves.
2) Most transphobes self-labelled or labelled by others as "TERFs" aren't radical feminists by any reasonable stretch of the imagination.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: canadagoose on May 12, 2022, 02:05:23 PM
Quote from: Zetetic on May 12, 2022, 01:58:51 PM1) "Trans-exclusionary radical feminist (TERF)" wasn't coined or popularised by a trans-exclusionary radical feminist, certainly not one applying it to themselves.
2) Most transphobes self-labelled or labelled by others as "TERFs" aren't radical feminists by any reasonable stretch of the imagination.
A lot of them do describe themselves as "radfems" though, even though their version is poisonous and hateful. It's a bit like the "classical liberal" situation, where most people online who describe themselves with that label are more far-right than "classical liberal".
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Zetetic on May 12, 2022, 02:07:36 PM
And that's something that the TERF-for-transphobe labelling has probably encouraged, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: canadagoose on May 12, 2022, 02:09:25 PM
Quote from: Zetetic on May 12, 2022, 02:07:36 PMAnd that's something that the TERF-for-transphobe labelling has probably encouraged, unfortunately.
I know it seems that way, but not-particularly-feminist transphobes have been defining themselves as radfems for a good while now. I can remember them as far back as 2004. See also "RadFem 2012" or whatever it was called.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 12, 2022, 02:10:24 PM
Quote from: The Bumlord on May 12, 2022, 01:42:58 PMWhy is there a chat function linked to a court case?

I think it was mentioned the other day that they were using it for evidence. I suppose they didn't expect the most divorced man on the planet and his cavalcade of winter fuel allowancers to register and troll.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 12, 2022, 02:19:18 PM
Yeah I'd been wondering the same thing, regardless of what the case is I'm not surprised any judge is getting exasperated by people in a live chat arsing about. Even worse if it's a bunch of Grahams shrieking wall to wall shite. Here's hoping the banana brigade and whoever gave them access end up with some consequences for it.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 12, 2022, 02:27:22 PM
Quote from: retsuza on May 11, 2022, 11:02:53 PMBit off topic but it's a trans positive post.

I was reminded one of my favourite 2010s youtuber who interviewed people and was very funny.

She was gone for a long time and that was normal for that type of youtuber who just disappears at some point for whatever reason. You can't keep doing that exact same thing on YouTube for more than a decade.

She ended up coming back last year with the explainer of why she'd been gone

https://youtu.be/cGgVoqr78gk

Surprise gender transition story. And she is still very funny, she has a very personal and interesting story.

Ended up watching the whole thing last night. Very enlightening, and really heartwarming and funny stuff.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ayasakura on May 12, 2022, 02:30:00 PM
They are using open chat for evidence but it beggars belief that they opened it up to public use. Virtual hearings have been a thing for a while now, out of necessity, but I have no idea how someone thought this would be a good idea. Surely just let people follow along but disable the chat function except for email addresses linked to the actual professionals involved!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BritishHobo on May 12, 2022, 02:30:41 PM
Assuming they are still using the same virtual hearing system as they did when I worked at the courts at the start of COVID, the chat is also meant to be for drawing attention to any technical issues without disrupting the hearing or interrupting the Judge. Some poor court clerk trying to make sure everybody's cameras and microphones are working correctly (which they're usually not) will be having to scroll through all that stupid terminally online drama bullshit.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 12, 2022, 02:45:46 PM
The terfs love to think everyone has heard of their movement (Tunnocks! Dinosaurs! No Wheesht!) but the reality is most people haven't a clue they even exist.

Imagine that court clerk being hit by the full force of current day Linehan and his sad grief crew. You'd have to think you'd been hacked by bots for the amount of sense they make. Sian just citing bible verse and "tehe"ing while Linehan foams and gnashes over a list of perceived slights dating back 5 years and demands to know why m'lud doesn't care about healthy breast tissue.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 12, 2022, 02:51:09 PM
Yeah, even people who watch the news and are very online haven't heard of them.

I took my Dad to see Alan Partridge last night for his birthday and we were chatting about various comedies. Black Books came up and I pointed out that Linehan was only involved in the first series and my Dad replied that he did do The IT Crowd on his own. I mentioned why he has never been heard from since and my Dad was aghast. He hadn't heard of any of the Twitter ban, getting divorced and being a professional transphobe stuff.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: DreadedScotsman on May 12, 2022, 02:57:52 PM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 12, 2022, 12:45:52 PMHow is it even a slur? It's just saying that they're radical feminists who exclude trans women, which is completely accurate.

They also claim cis is a slur and I'd be willing to be that when it became a commonly used term they'd have called straight and heterosexual slurs too
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 12, 2022, 03:03:38 PM
I suppose if you're a racist when someone calls you that it might seem like a slur too, if only because it could produce negative emotions.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 12, 2022, 03:07:19 PM
He says he wants a reasonable discussion but then tells people on his side to 'go fuck yourself'. He says he wants a reasonable discussion but then he and his glincels swarm the live chat of a court case (one that is supposedly landmark)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 12, 2022, 03:11:45 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on May 12, 2022, 02:51:09 PMYeah, even people who watch the news and are very online haven't heard of them.

My parents are nearly 80 but very up on the news, paper copy of the Independent, CH4 news every night etc and they aŕe very online too.

Last year my dad asked me if I had heard of doggy-coin when Elon blew it up and this week we spoke about Rooney and Vardy and the difference between Instagram posts and IG stories etc.

They have never mentioned trans issues once, as far as I know they are unaware and I'm 99.9% sure they wouldn't have a problem with it if asked.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 12, 2022, 03:12:11 PM
Accidental post
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 12, 2022, 03:20:07 PM
I envy you lot, my old ma bangs on about the evil transes most days on Facebook. And she is very much a Twitter obsessed person.

She actually posted something today and it makes me happy I found this forum full of sad, balding, middle-aged failed writers.

Really, you guys can't know how much I appreciate this place.

(https://frinkiac.com/video/S06E11/G9FngC5cnF9Pc6wK7TmwfLskgUU=.gif)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 12, 2022, 03:28:04 PM
I'm sorry to hear that @dead-ced-dead , as someone who has been there I know how much if can take over ones life. I hope she finds a way out
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 12, 2022, 03:33:01 PM
Quote from: Ayasakura on May 12, 2022, 01:28:19 PMAccording to twitter and people following the case, the judge has had to halt proceedings in Allison Bailey's trial more than once today - because GC people in the chat keep trying to interfere with the proceedings. Or just straight up being offensive.
I think that's very funny. I hope they all signed up with their fucking work emails too.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 12, 2022, 03:33:15 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on May 12, 2022, 03:20:07 PMI envy you lot, my old ma bangs on about the evil transes most days on Facebook. And she is very much a Twitter obsessed person.

She actually posted something today and it makes me happy I found this forum full of sad, balding, middle-aged failed writers.

Really, you guys can't know how much I appreciate this place.

(https://frinkiac.com/video/S06E11/G9FngC5cnF9Pc6wK7TmwfLskgUU=.gif)


This board works wonders. For example, and I grant you this is only tangentially related, seeing this gif suddenly tripped something in my stupid brain and I realised a sample in a song that had been bugging me for days was a pitched-down Lisa Simpson.

So thanks board. And for all the other neat stuff too, obviously.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ayasakura on May 12, 2022, 03:44:04 PM
Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 12, 2022, 03:33:01 PMI think that's very funny. I hope they all signed up with their fucking work emails too.

Almost certainly, and then THEY can start a tribunal about THEIR dismissal, and it'll just be terf tribunals forever! Hurrah!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 12, 2022, 03:55:39 PM
Quote from: FalknerHinton on May 12, 2022, 03:33:15 PMSo thanks board. And for all the other neat stuff too, obviously.

(https://frinkiac.com/video/S07E04/Cy5zA6eG_JHBjcwmI2nMsRqu9GQ=.gif)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 12, 2022, 03:56:06 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 12, 2022, 03:28:04 PMI'm sorry to hear that @dead-ced-dead , as someone who has been there I know how much if can take over ones life. I hope she finds a way out

Thank you. I don't think she will, but hope springs eternal.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 12, 2022, 04:00:29 PM
Quote from: Ayasakura on May 12, 2022, 03:44:04 PMAlmost certainly, and then THEY can start a tribunal about THEIR dismissal, and it'll just be terf tribunals forever! Hurrah!
The Tragic Roundabout
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Bumlord on May 12, 2022, 04:15:26 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on May 12, 2022, 03:56:06 PMThank you. I don't think she will, but hope springs eternal.

Sounds a bit shit :(

Very lucky that my own mum, always a wet liberal sort, is becoming increasingly left wing and intolerant of intolerance in her old age.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: C_Larence on May 12, 2022, 04:20:41 PM
Quote from: FalknerHinton on May 12, 2022, 03:33:15 PMThis board works wonders. For example, and I grant you this is only tangentially related, seeing this gif suddenly tripped something in my stupid brain and I realised a sample in a song that had been bugging me for days was a pitched-down Lisa Simpson.

So thanks board. And for all the other neat stuff too, obviously.

What song was it?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 12, 2022, 04:25:38 PM
The latest in from GC land: GC is now a slur
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 12, 2022, 04:28:07 PM
Amazing.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 12, 2022, 04:31:13 PM
QuoteGC is now becoming the slur you use as you once did TERF. You aren't using the term in any coherent way
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 12, 2022, 04:34:48 PM
Deranged arsehole is a slur.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 12, 2022, 04:45:18 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 12, 2022, 04:25:38 PMThe latest in from GC land: GC is now a slur

(https://i.imgur.com/t3ijZkY.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 12, 2022, 04:45:35 PM
QuoteGC is now becoming the slur you use as you once did TERF

What a horribly jumbled and confusingly phrased sentence.

He used to be a writer.

Edit: I see he didn't originate it, it was taken from a Tweet (big surprise).
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 12, 2022, 04:46:56 PM
Fucking hell, I wish I made a post earlier when talking about TERF being a slur. I was about to ask how long it would be until their new term, "GC", is a slur. Turns out it was around two hours.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 12, 2022, 04:48:46 PM
What a bunch of total fucking Linehans they are.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 12, 2022, 04:49:28 PM
"Banned from Twitter" is a slur.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: canadagoose on May 12, 2022, 04:50:29 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on May 12, 2022, 04:45:35 PMWhat a horribly jumbled and confusingly phrased sentence.

He used to be a writer.

Edit: I see he didn't originate it, it was taken from a Tweet (big surprise).

Yeah, from Jean "Hatchet", old-school bellend.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 12, 2022, 04:51:58 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on May 12, 2022, 04:49:28 PM"Banned from Twitter" is a slur.

It's a slur to suggest he write another sitcom or get a real job.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 12, 2022, 04:57:31 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/rcPRs8r.png)

https://twitter.com/Colin_Musk/status/1521541783674671104?t=zboEPiBiG_zBGopKaNV9yA&s=19
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 12, 2022, 04:58:59 PM
Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist and Gender Critical are both the most toothless ways to describe a hate group, they should be thrilled that's what they're being called. And THEY came up with the terms in the first place.

Probably they just subconsiously notice that these terms are associated with the most intolerable people ever. Even people who aren't really clued into this thing know there's a disdain for TERFs.

Instead of having an Are We The Baddies introspection they decide they're the ones being victimised. Because they're being called the softest thing imaginable for a radical movement who want to take away people's rights.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 12, 2022, 04:59:19 PM
Philosophical questions being considered in the Allison Bailey tribunal:

(https://i.imgur.com/bMCdBJm.jpg)

If only there was some sort of expert in these matters they could call as a witness
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 12, 2022, 05:02:06 PM
Fuck it, lads. Take all their language and make them reject it. They did it with 'woke', we can smash all their nice things.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 12, 2022, 05:03:22 PM
Quote from: BennyHedgehog on May 12, 2022, 04:59:19 PMPhilosophical questions being considered in the Allison Bailey tribunal:

(https://i.imgur.com/bMCdBJm.jpg)

If only there was some sort of expert in these matters they could call as a witness

AH: Is a man reduced to a beard?

JUDGE (wearily): 5 minute break everyone. Fuck it, make it 10, I need a cig.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 12, 2022, 05:05:38 PM
I call them "right-wing transphobic bigots". Keeps things simple.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: canadagoose on May 12, 2022, 05:05:50 PM
Anyway, if GC is a horrible slurrrrr maybe I'll just call them transphobic stochastic terrorists from now on. Or TSTs, pronounced "testes".

Quote from: jobotic on May 12, 2022, 05:05:38 PMI call them "right-wing transphobic bigots". Keeps things simple.
Or that.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: greencalx on May 12, 2022, 05:49:47 PM
Glinner is now a slur.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: petril on May 12, 2022, 05:59:59 PM
aw, we could basically get an entire language cancelled for being a slur now

imagine that, from the British Empire ruling the world to nobody even allowed to use its' main language. we could all speak Gaelic or Welsh or Irish or something instead
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 12, 2022, 06:07:12 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on May 12, 2022, 04:46:56 PMFucking hell, I wish I made a post earlier when talking about TERF being a slur. I was about to ask how long it would be until their new term, "GC", is a slur. Turns out it was around two hours.

Can't remember the exact bit, but this is more or less what Contrapoints predicted or talked about ages ago. These groups redefine themselves when their new term becomes sullied, so they dump it and move onto the next one.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: HamishMacbeth on May 12, 2022, 06:09:29 PM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 12, 2022, 06:07:12 PMCan't remember the exact bit, but this is more or less what Contrapoints predicted or talked about ages ago. These groups redefine themselves when their new term becomes sullied, so they dump it and move onto the next one.

Right, what they object to, inherently, is the existence of a word that allows others to perform a quick categorisation, the same reason cults don't like to be called cults, and some Christians say "Christianity isn't a religion."
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mindy Simmons on May 12, 2022, 06:17:26 PM
Quote from: HamishMacbeth on May 12, 2022, 06:09:29 PMRight, what they object to, inherently, is the existence of a word that allows others to perform a quick categorisation, the same reason cults don't like to be called cults, and some Christians say "Christianity isn't a religion."

Alt-right was thought up by that Nazi dickhead you often see getting punched in a gif (can't be arsed to look his name) as an alternative to calling yourself a white supramist.

Which shows you how dumb these people are. Alt-right might not have obvious in the beginning, but it hardly took long for people to get the idea.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: HamishMacbeth on May 12, 2022, 06:20:39 PM
Quote from: Mindy Simmons on May 12, 2022, 06:17:26 PMWhich shows you how dumb these people are. Alt-right might not have obvious in the beginning, but it hardly took long for people to get the idea.

Right, it becomes an endlessly sliding scale because TERF was already a nice word for transphobe, and racist was already a nice word for hatemonger or bigot and so on. The tactic is to keep blaming the words and not the fact that poisonous ideas will eventually taint whatever label you attach to them.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 12, 2022, 06:37:04 PM
Quote from: C_Larence on May 12, 2022, 04:20:41 PMWhat song was it?

"And I Wonder Where You Are" - Based Frequency
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 12, 2022, 06:53:48 PM
Quote from: Mindy Simmons on May 12, 2022, 06:17:26 PMAlt-right was thought up by that Nazi dickhead you often see getting punched in a gif (can't be arsed to look his name)
let's all enjoy that again
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dontpaintyourteeth on May 12, 2022, 06:54:42 PM
Solidarity with those of you with relatives that are following the bananas path. My sister has parroted the "terf is a slur" line to me before, sadly. I was told that it's a slur because it's only ever directed at women, which isn't even true, but whatever. I'm sure I'll be hearing the same about "GC" soon.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 12, 2022, 07:10:23 PM
Hard to believe how stupid they all are at times:

(https://i.postimg.cc/jSgrtPLK/IMG-20220512-190041.jpg)

That's from the John Boyne blog, where Linehan showed precisely what would happen if someone like Matt Lucas did actually apologise to him. I.e. he would not accept, because there is more "power' in saying "no...grovel more."

Then the glincels also have this cringey shared delusion that he's gonna write a brilliant comedy about the whole thing "after it's over".

Quote from: some transphobeI for one, am looking forward to the award-winning comedy show that Glinner is going to write after all this is done and dusted, and we'll laugh and laugh and laugh. He should have enough material for years.

Working title suggestions welcome.

And the above is all that he actually wants; it's not about the rights of women and girls, it's about being worshipped for an ideal you don't and can't even live up to.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: filthytrans on May 12, 2022, 07:12:12 PM
In accordance with clowns wishes during the tribunal the other day, I will now be using the pronoun "clown/clowns/clownself" to refer to Glinner and I hope clowns happy.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mindy Simmons on May 12, 2022, 07:53:13 PM
Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 12, 2022, 06:53:48 PMlet's all enjoy that again

I second the clown pronouns for him.
That's the cunt!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 12, 2022, 08:00:22 PM
"oh i can't wait for the masterful comedy graham will produce when this is all over" Please. If Graham was a comedy genius, masterful satirist joke man, he'd have an ongoing written series on his griefstack (or maybe on that Patreon that's been gathering dust for ten fucking months) skewering the ridiculosity of the TRAs. Come on Graham, come up with a few strawmen your heroic King of Feminists character can mercilessly tear asunder every week. Come on, you lazy fuck. You could fleece these old ratbags for even more pension money.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 12, 2022, 08:10:19 PM
Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 12, 2022, 08:00:22 PM"oh i can't wait for the masterful comedy graham will produce when this is all over" Please. If Graham was a comedy genius, masterful satirist joke man, he'd have an ongoing written series on his griefstack (or maybe on that Patreon that's been gathering dust for ten fucking months) skewering the ridiculosity of the TRAs. Come on Graham, come up with a few strawmen your heroic King of Feminists character can mercilessly tear asunder every week. Come on, you lazy fuck. You could fleece these old ratbags for even more pension money.

Let me guess what the three leads of the show will be:

The grumpy Irish one
The silly comic relief one
The woman one (only defining characteristic is she is a woman)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 12, 2022, 08:26:41 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on May 12, 2022, 08:10:19 PMLet me guess what the three leads of the show will be:

The grumpy Irish one
The silly comic relief one
The woman one (only defining characteristic is she is a woman)
oh jeeping fuck he's trying to recreate the IT crowd on his sadvlogs isn't he
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 12, 2022, 08:30:47 PM
Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 12, 2022, 08:26:41 PMoh jeeping fuck he's trying to recreate the IT crowd on his sadvlogs isn't he

And The IT Crowd was just a rehash of the archetypes from Black Books - Manny - silly, Bernard - Irish, Fran - actually a lot more than just "woman one", but it was co-written by a much better writer.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 12, 2022, 08:38:42 PM
Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 12, 2022, 08:00:22 PM"oh i can't wait for the masterful comedy graham will produce when this is all over" Please. If Graham was a comedy genius, masterful satirist joke man, he'd have an ongoing written series on his griefstack (or maybe on that Patreon that's been gathering dust for ten fucking months) skewering the ridiculosity of the TRAs. Come on Graham, come up with a few strawmen your heroic King of Feminists character can mercilessly tear asunder every week. Come on, you lazy fuck. You could fleece these old ratbags for even more pension money.

There's just so much going on so he can't divide his attention. It's a full time job being SGB Editor in Chief. It's hard work deciding what to copy and paste or letting JL put something up.

Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 12, 2022, 08:26:41 PMoh jeeping fuck he's trying to recreate the IT crowd on his sadvlogs isn't he

He did say in the Poker sponsored by Just Eat livestream that he based Roy on himself.

Staniland is actually a programmer at least so he couldn't find the tech illiterate moronic woman stereotype he wanted. Well at least not tech illiterate.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dazed_and_bemused on May 12, 2022, 08:43:45 PM
Quote from: retsuza on May 12, 2022, 08:38:42 PMStaniland is actually a programmer at least so he couldn't find the tech illiterate moronic woman stereotype he wanted. Well at least not tech illiterate.

10 PRINT "PENIS"
20 GOTO 10
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 12, 2022, 09:13:41 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 12, 2022, 04:45:18 PM(https://i.imgur.com/t3ijZkY.jpg)

That is because "Gender Critical" people aren't in any way coherent with their beliefs. They say and do things that are very gender-conforming, like criticising women with facial hair or coloured hair or one that dress too provocatively or wear coloured nail polish while wearing police uniform for a photo shoot. If they directed any of that at cis women they would look like utter ghouls so why shouldn't the same apply to trans women (no need to answer that, obv)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Alberon on May 12, 2022, 09:15:57 PM
It won't be long before 'cunt' is unacceptable!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: TommyTurnips on May 12, 2022, 09:49:29 PM
Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 12, 2022, 08:26:41 PMoh jeeping fuck he's trying to recreate the IT crowd on his sadvlogs isn't he

This time it'll be called the GC crowd. Two nerdy rad fems and the woman are forced to work in a basement for their gender critical beliefs. *phone rings* hello GC have you tried turning off replies? Well try removing pronouns from the bio! I find them offensive. *slams phone down*

I mean, it practically writes itself.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: canadagoose on May 12, 2022, 09:53:18 PM
Quote from: TommyTurnips on May 12, 2022, 09:49:29 PMThis time it'll be called the GC crowd. Two nerdy rad fems and the woman are forced to work in a basement for their gender critical beliefs. *phone rings* hello GC have you tried turning off replies? Well try removing pronouns from the bio! I find them offensive. *slams phone down*

I mean, it practically writes itself.
I mean, if I could write comedy, I'd write that. It's gold TommyTurnips, gold!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 12, 2022, 10:37:05 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on May 12, 2022, 08:10:19 PMLet me guess what the three leads of the show will be:

The grumpy Irish one
The silly comic relief one
The woman one (only defining characteristic is she is a woman)

Will the woman one go on a date with a closeted gay man who likes musicals and things that are fabulous?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 12, 2022, 10:45:00 PM
QuoteSo excited to hear about the Queen's speech removing gender identity from conversion therapy ban. :) Also, JK Rowling is a Luciferian, and as much as I agree with her on this issue (to the point of printing hundreds of her letters and distributing them at my own cost to many people), she worships Satan and I think that's important for people to know this is a fact - ultimately. Look into these people and what is they underbelly of their entire philosophy. Her ability to gain a load of followers calling her 'queen' is part of her glory here on earth, while also 'do what thou whilst' could mean anything really. Not to mention her platforms are completely protected, in part because she is very wealthy, but she's wealthy and protected because she is part of an 'elite-Luciferian club' also. (Keeping it real don't hate)

One of Graham's new friends in the comments on the latest SGB post. Will he delete this terrible libel against his idol JK Rowling (JK Rowling)? Only time will tell...
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: TommyTurnips on May 12, 2022, 10:50:28 PM
Quote from: canadagoose on May 12, 2022, 09:53:18 PMI mean, if I could write comedy, I'd write that. It's gold TommyTurnips, gold!

I wish I could write comedy, unfortunately I am a failed comedy writer so woe is me.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 13, 2022, 12:59:53 AM
Quote from: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 12, 2022, 10:37:05 PMWill the woman one go on a date with a closeted gay man who likes musicals and things that are fabulous?

Yeah, beat for beat that plotline is exactly the same in Black Books and IT Crowd, isn't it? Down to her telling him that he's gay, him initially denying it and then crying and thanking her for helping him to stop living a lie.
Is it a plotline in Seinfeld, by any chance?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Famous Mortimer on May 13, 2022, 01:30:00 AM
*Couple goes on date*

*One spends the entire date policing who goes in and out of the toilet*

*Other one is fine because stopping people from having a wee is the most important thing in life*
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 13, 2022, 01:37:14 AM
Anyone who had Jon Ronson on their bingo card, strike it off:

(https://i.imgur.com/FResrLX.png)

I've just realised that Jon Ronson has been on Joe Rogan podcast twice and that absolutely must boil Glinners piss.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mr. logic on May 13, 2022, 03:32:02 AM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 12, 2022, 07:10:23 PMHard to believe how stupid they all are at times:

(https://i.postimg.cc/jSgrtPLK/IMG-20220512-190041.jpg)

That's from the John Boyne blog, where Linehan showed precisely what would happen if someone like Matt Lucas did actually apologise to him. I.e. he would not accept, because there is more "power' in saying "no...grovel more."

Then the glincels also have this cringey shared delusion that he's gonna write a brilliant comedy about the whole thing "after it's over".

And the above is all that he actually wants; it's not about the rights of women and girls, it's about being worshipped for an ideal you don't and can't even live up to.

Why did Lucas apologise?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 13, 2022, 07:07:21 AM
Quote from: mr. logic on May 13, 2022, 03:32:02 AMWhy did Lucas apologise?

He didn't, nor should he:

https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=92877.2190
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 07:18:54 AM
Reading that message to Matt Lucas again sent shivers down my spine
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: buttgammon on May 13, 2022, 07:49:40 AM
Quote from: Cold Meat Platter on May 13, 2022, 12:59:53 AMYeah, beat for beat that plotline is exactly the same in Black Books and IT Crowd, isn't it? Down to her telling him that he's gay, him initially denying it and then crying and thanking her for helping him to stop living a lie.
Is it a plotline in Seinfeld, by any chance?

Yes, in an episode called The Beard (although Elaine knows the man is gay, she does it as a favour for him and ends up becoming attracted to him).
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Guppy on May 13, 2022, 09:17:57 AM
Quote from: buttgammon on May 13, 2022, 07:49:40 AMYes, in an episode called The Beard (although Elaine knows the man is gay, she does it as a favour for him and ends up becoming attracted to him).
That's the one episode Graham refuses to watch.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 13, 2022, 09:22:26 AM
Fucking hell I'd forgotten about the Matt lucas thing. Presumably Lucas had the sense to just ignore it but it wouldn't surprise me if it turned out the police had a word and spooked Linehan out of ever mentioning it again. That's just unhinged.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 09:50:43 AM
What's even more shocking is that he actually proudly posted about that message. He didn't for one second see how it is unhinged, he's full of self righteous anger
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 13, 2022, 09:57:07 AM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 09:50:43 AMWhat's even more shocking is that he actually proudly posted about that message. He didn't for one second see how it is unhinged, he's full of self righteous anger

And bananas
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wrec on May 13, 2022, 09:58:15 AM
A Prosecco Stormfronter has suggested PWR (PoWeR) as an alternative to GC (a term which they think "Maya got protected"). Why not go for Koncerned Karing Kriticals altogether.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 10:01:54 AM
Quote from: wrec on May 13, 2022, 09:58:15 AMA Prosecco Stormfronter has suggested PWR (PoWeR) as an alternative to GC (a term which they think "Maya got protected"). Why not go for Koncerned Karing Kriticals altogether.

They don't realise how bananas they sound to the rest of the world
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 13, 2022, 10:11:26 AM
What does PWR stand for? Proper Wonky Rightwingers?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: superthunderstingcar on May 13, 2022, 10:14:38 AM
"Why do you keep changing the name of your movement?"

"Our enemies keep calling us by the last name we chose for ourselves, and it's making us look bad."
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 13, 2022, 10:22:35 AM
Quote from: Sonny_Jim on May 13, 2022, 01:37:14 AMAnyone who had Jon Ronson on their bingo card, strike it off:

(https://i.imgur.com/FResrLX.png)

I've just realised that Jon Ronson has been on Joe Rogan podcast twice and that absolutely must boil Glinners piss.

Annoyingly I actually had him not mentioning Jon Ronson on my bingo card.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 13, 2022, 10:35:48 AM
All serious political movements have blog posts titled "this, this, thisity this" don't they? Boomer trying to be down with the internet vibes galore
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 13, 2022, 10:40:25 AM
Beats racist blog post titles referencing M Night Shyamalan for no reason.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 10:43:14 AM
Quote from: JamesTC on May 13, 2022, 10:40:25 AMBeats racist blog post titles referencing M Night Shyamalan for no reason.

What's this about?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 13, 2022, 10:45:49 AM
Quote from: phantom_power on May 13, 2022, 10:11:26 AMWhat does PWR stand for? Proper Wonky Rightwingers?
Protecting Women's Rights, I believe.

Meanwhile, there's some buyer's remorse happening over at the Allison Bailey tribunal:

(https://i.imgur.com/U5BbU2l.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 10:48:25 AM
Imagine having a spare £500 to donate to an employment tribunal
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 13, 2022, 10:50:05 AM
Pushing them into our spaces? What are Stonewall, fucking Gripper Stebson?

Protecting Women's Rights? So what do they describe themselves as? Protecting Women's Rightsers? Protectors of Women's Rights? How does that tally with them palling up with anti-abortionists?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 13, 2022, 10:52:08 AM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 10:43:14 AMWhat's this about?

This is a heading on one of his journalisms from the end of last year:
(https://i.imgur.com/ixGPoac.png)

Edit: It was his journalism about Wil Wheaton. The one where he forgot how to count.
(https://i.imgur.com/atkJCCK.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/AHZtiQr.png)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 13, 2022, 10:58:54 AM
The size of text on that is all fucked as well isn't it. The main text from Wheaton should be large and his responses should follow in smaller text or italics. There is no need for numbered bullets either. He really is shit at everything
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 13, 2022, 10:59:20 AM
Just call him Scoops Linehan, ace reporter. All the news that's fit to shit.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 13, 2022, 11:10:32 AM
Do you think he will fire shots at Kendrick Lamar now he has been captured? Or would he have no idea who he is?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 13, 2022, 11:20:19 AM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 10:48:25 AMImagine having a spare £500 to donate to an employment tribunal
Imagine not understanding that a donation isn't refundable.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 13, 2022, 11:32:28 AM
This person gave Bailey £500? Jesus Christ, talk about fools and their money being parted. Though Mumsnetters are notoriously gullible so it's not surprising really, begging threads are a regular thing there.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 11:36:37 AM
Quote from: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 13, 2022, 11:20:19 AMImagine not understanding that a donation isn't refundable.

That too! But honestly, £500 is a fortune to donate. And we're told that trans people are the privileged ones
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JaDanketies on May 13, 2022, 11:51:35 AM
I bet £500 could buy plenty of food parcels for hungry mums. Or protect many women from FGM.  Or fix plenty of cleft palates. Or anything. Spending it in Tesco would be better for society.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 13, 2022, 11:54:18 AM
They have a go at people for buying designer handbags or 'expensive tat' for their kids and then go and spunk hundreds of pounds on this pointless crap.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 13, 2022, 11:55:16 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/E6Kder2.jpg)
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"I'm... genuinely angry at Allison"

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 13, 2022, 11:56:47 AM
Quote from: JaDanketies on May 13, 2022, 11:51:35 AMI bet £500 could buy plenty of food parcels for hungry mums. Or protect many women from FGM.  Or fix plenty of cleft palates. Or anything. Spending it in Tesco would be better for society.
'Yeah, I get that period poverty is a thing but I want to help this woman sue a charity'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 11:57:07 AM
All the money wasted on GC causes, it doesn't even bear thinking about
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 13, 2022, 12:00:26 PM
You'd think there'd be more coverage of this trial when he'd talked it up as like the battle of Armageddon against the Beast Stonewall

It's almost as if Bailey's rather deluded and her case is a bit crap
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 13, 2022, 12:03:02 PM
Protecting (rich) Women's Rights (to stay rich for as little effort as possible)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JaDanketies on May 13, 2022, 12:06:56 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 11:57:07 AMAll the money wasted on GC causes, it doesn't even bear thinking about

Really money is never 'wasted', it at least added to HMRC's tax take, and hopefully the lawyers spend it on something decent. Not worth fretting about. Hopefully no GC parents' kids went without.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: RHX on May 13, 2022, 12:07:52 PM
Quote from: phantom_power on May 13, 2022, 11:10:32 AMDo you think he will fire shots at Kendrick Lamar now he has been captured? Or would he have no idea who he is?

Was literally about to post about that! Can't imagine him being too thrilled at Glastonbury for "platforming a TRA" as their headlining act. (Seriously though, it's nice to see K Dot come out on one of the most anticipated albums of the last few years as a trans ally)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 13, 2022, 12:09:01 PM
Quote from: RHX on May 13, 2022, 12:07:52 PMSeriously though, it's nice to see K Dot come out on one of the most anticipated albums of the last few years as a trans ally)

Unequivocally so as well
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 12:11:14 PM
Quote from: JaDanketies on May 13, 2022, 12:06:56 PMReally money is never 'wasted', it at least added to HMRC's tax take, and hopefully the lawyers spend it on something decent. Not worth fretting about. Hopefully no GC parents' kids went without.

My point was that the money could be spent on actual important causes affecting women. Someone mentioned period poverty or food banks. So yes I firmly believe the money on GC vanity causes have been a waste
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 13, 2022, 12:20:10 PM
There's a spreadsheet kicking about somewhere, isn't it over £2m now?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JaDanketies on May 13, 2022, 12:22:37 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 12:11:14 PMMy point was that the money could be spent on actual important causes affecting women. Someone mentioned period poverty or food banks. So yes I firmly believe the money on GC vanity causes have been a waste

I guess it just isn't the way I view money. Probably a repulsion of the Tories pretending that if you add £1bn to the social care budget then the money literally evaporates, never to be seen again, rather than that it supports the social care industry and all of its employees to the tune of £1bn, all of whom pay tax and spend their income in other businesses, which also pay tax. I like to envision the money sticking around for someone else to use.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 13, 2022, 12:25:07 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 10:48:25 AMImagine having a spare £500 to donate to an employment tribunal
Imagine being a parent and having a spare £500. Should that not be going into a college fund like
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 13, 2022, 12:25:21 PM
Quote from: phantom_power on May 13, 2022, 10:11:26 AMWhat does PWR stand for? Proper Wonky Rightwingers?

Prosecco White Racists
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 13, 2022, 12:37:10 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 13, 2022, 12:20:10 PMThere's a spreadsheet kicking about somewhere, isn't it over £2m now?

Yeah I was thinking the same, can only find this version from February last year:

https://mobile.twitter.com/wearefaircop/status/1358135328733728768

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtkGahbVEAAWJbJ?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 13, 2022, 12:37:18 PM
Quote from: JaDanketies on May 13, 2022, 12:22:37 PMI guess it just isn't the way I view money. Probably a repulsion of the Tories pretending that if you add £1bn to the social care budget then the money literally evaporates, never to be seen again, rather than that it supports the social care industry and all of its employees to the tune of £1bn, all of whom pay tax and spend their income in other businesses, which also pay tax. I like to envision the money sticking around for someone else to use.

You're right, but it goes without saying that the Angry Donor in question isn't viewing the money in this way. To them, that £500 has a very specific destination and this was the one they wanted it to have.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Buttered Ghost on May 13, 2022, 01:16:43 PM
Quote from: phantom_power on May 13, 2022, 10:58:54 AMThe size of text on that is all fucked as well isn't it. The main text from Wheaton should be large and his responses should follow in smaller text or italics. There is no need for numbered bullets either. He really is shit at everything
The idea that his enemy's thoughts are small and in italics while his are big and in bold is pretty accurate summary of his mental state.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 13, 2022, 01:37:00 PM
Quote from: Buttered Ghost on May 13, 2022, 01:16:43 PMThe idea that his enemy's thoughts are small and in italics while his are big and in bold is pretty accurate summary of his mental state.

These thoughts are small, these thoughts are faraway.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Alberon on May 13, 2022, 02:07:17 PM
Linehan's only hope backing away?

From the Torygraph.

QuoteThe billionaire wrote in a tweet: "Twitter deal temporarily on hold pending details supporting calculation that spam/fake accounts do indeed represent less than 5pc of users."

Shares in Twitter crashed as much as 25pc in pre-market trading, with its market value set to plunge even further below Musk's $54.20 offer.

Neil Campling, an analyst at Mirabaud Equity Research, said the company's board had been "held hostage" and described Musk's manoeuvres as "nothing short of farcical".

There's been growing worries among investors that the Tesla founder's bid for Twitter won't go through due to the significant financial and political exposure linked to the deal.

Could be just an attempt to drive the price down or Musk could be stepping away.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 13, 2022, 02:11:26 PM
Quote from: Buttered Ghost on May 13, 2022, 01:16:43 PMThe idea that his enemy's thoughts are small and in italics while his are big and in bold is pretty accurate summary of his mental state.

And with the bullet numbering all over the shop
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 13, 2022, 02:12:25 PM
Aww, looks like it is back to Gettr for Glinner.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 13, 2022, 02:23:10 PM
Quote from: retsuza on May 12, 2022, 01:34:46 PMA favourite of mine that I can't remember is from here or Twitter is Julia Hartley-Brewer being referred to as Fartley-Pooer.

Me too, I believe. I got skills.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 13, 2022, 02:24:59 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on May 13, 2022, 02:12:25 PMAww, looks like it is back to Gettr for Glinner.

Doesn't satisfy his itch though does it? There isnt any enemies there to tell to shut up and to fuck off. Instead he just does it behind his @GrahamLinehan7 locked account where the person is not even going to see the response. Old Man Yells at Cloud.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 13, 2022, 02:27:14 PM
Quote from: retsuza on May 13, 2022, 02:24:59 PMDoesn't satisfy his itch though does it? There isnt any enemies there to tell to shut up and to fuck off. Instead he just does it behind his @GrahamLinehan7 locked account where the person is not even going to see the response. Old Man Yells at Cloud.

Old man yells at cloud from locked room that the cloud must specifically request the key for.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 13, 2022, 02:28:53 PM
Quote from: Dr Rock on May 13, 2022, 02:23:10 PMMe too, I believe. I got skills.

How about 'Allison Payme'? Not very good that one. If only her name sounded like bare-faced bigoted grifter...
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 02:30:07 PM
Quote from: retsuza on May 13, 2022, 02:24:59 PMDoesn't satisfy his itch though does it? There isnt any enemies there to tell to shut up and to fuck off. Instead he just does it behind his @GrahamLinehan7 locked account where the person is not even going to see the response. Old Man Yells at Cloud.

His engagement on Gettr was either 1. Sian 2. GC women who dislike him or mostly 3. Shitposts winding him up. Hilarious
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 13, 2022, 02:47:50 PM
I'm trying to work out if there are any parallels for Linehan. I've said before that I think he'll go down in history being reviled as the new Anita Bryant, and he does use some of her methods, but that doesn't seem to cover it.

It's the fact he 1) so palpably doesn't give a shit about the "issues" and 2) dedicates his time to methodically frightening the minority he claims to want to protect. (E.g. "I write about the current all-out assault on woman's rights".)

I can only really think of cult leaders like Jim Jones.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 13, 2022, 02:50:04 PM
I can see some parallels with Matt Le Tissier, though I don't know if Le Tissier's alienated his family yet. Both of them continued to double down on their pet obsessions, both have far right supporters, both lost work because of it (Le Tissier resigned as Southampton's ambassador, although I'm not sure if he lost the Sky pundit gig because of his beliefs).
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ferris on May 13, 2022, 02:50:32 PM
Quote from: Alberon on May 13, 2022, 02:07:17 PMLinehan's only hope backing away?

From the Torygraph.

Could be just an attempt to drive the price down or Musk could be stepping away.

Quote from: Ferris on May 05, 2022, 12:38:33 AMIt's due an absolute reckoning. They've got in shit in the past for including "automated" (bot) accounts in their usage stats, and I genuinely know 2 people who actually use it. I've said it before, but same for Facebook - nobody uses it. You can't claim billions of active users if it's a ghost town.

They still have value as platforms, but nothing like the imagined value they have now...

By 2025 fb and twitter will be worth 20% of what they are now, a similar fall to MySpace. I'm convinced that's why the twitter board sold up - probably couldn't believe their luck that some dipshit chud turned up with more money than conventional business sense.

Bookmark it.

Suspect this is the beginning of the end for twitter. They'll have to reveal their usage stats, everyone will be taken aback (larrydavidfaint.gif) that it's 40% bots and sell up, and the company will go down the shitter.

It bases its value on a kind of "we are the public space, everyone is here and using it!" and when the emperor is revealed to have no clothes people will leave because who wants to be on a loser platform?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 13, 2022, 03:12:06 PM
Some dissent on the sgb


(https://i.imgur.com/HXvlwhp.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 13, 2022, 03:13:31 PM
The better friends stage of your life.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 03:16:32 PM
That has to be someone taking the piss surely?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 13, 2022, 03:23:23 PM
Jim Jones had followers, Glinner's lost most of his. Anita Bryant is pretty close.

https://www.them.us/story/anita-bryant-lesbian-granddaughter

QuoteAnita Bryant Devoted Her Life to Terrorizing LGBTQ+ People.

She also had a fairly successful career (as a singer) before devoting her life to being a nutty bigot.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Pimhole on May 13, 2022, 03:36:36 PM
Anita Bryant never spent most of her time lashing out at perceived personal slights and endlessly stewing over a list of Enemies, to be fair.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 13, 2022, 03:39:28 PM
Ok, Anita Bryant meets the Una-Bomber
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mtpromises on May 13, 2022, 03:46:31 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 03:16:32 PMThat has to be someone taking the piss surely?
Most likely it's an American.  As the issue picks up traction with America's right, I'd expect more crazy to filter in.

Some Americans already here include:
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 03:48:38 PM
Quote from: mtpromises on May 13, 2022, 03:46:31 PMMost likely it's an American.  As the issue picks up traction with America's right, I'd expect more crazy to filter in.

Some Americans already here include:
  • SmokinFeds the neo-nazi.
  • Atwistedfemale talks about her life like it's the 90's movie Juice and she is often "strapped".
  • VF555, between fucking all the bitches, takes selfies with knives.


Lovely people
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 13, 2022, 03:58:28 PM
I think it might be real, this is their substack profile:

https://substack.com/profile/29379429-believer

He's exhausted the supply of GC twitter zealots so now has to look to maniacs for new readers
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 13, 2022, 04:01:02 PM
Also seems that the Luciferian thing has been going for a while, and there's a lot of talk about how Harry Potter was an attempt at getting kids into satanism .

(https://i.postimg.cc/KzWpdPW0/IMG-20220513-155957.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 04:07:02 PM
Does the fact that he's now cheek to cheek with far right homophobes and bigots ever bother him? Or does he even have enough self awareness for that
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phes on May 13, 2022, 04:58:12 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 04:07:02 PMDoes the fact that he's now cheek to cheek with far right homophobes and bigots ever bother him? Or does he even have enough self awareness for that

No, they are united about this one thing and apparently that means it's fine for Graham Linehan

Graham Linehan remained silent about the goals of his bedfellows because it suited his melted brain 
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 05:07:02 PM
GC leaders also know the right things to say to GC people who are uneasy about allying with such types. Don't worry, they'll say,this is not an issue of left or right, this affects women at all ends of the political spectrum, it unites all women

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 13, 2022, 05:07:47 PM
Quote from: Gabriel ManigaultThe enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 13, 2022, 05:16:49 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 05:07:02 PMGC leaders also know the right things to say to GC people who are uneasy about allying with such types. Don't worry, they'll say, this is not an issue of left or right, this affects women at all ends of the political spectrum, it unites all women



The Mumsnet Mantra.

It's incredible seeing FWR promoting defending right wing media/personalities/opinions/parties in there day after day.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 06:15:45 PM
And they'll say 'I've been left wing my whole life'. Ok so the right have been wrong on marriage equality, wrong on reproductive rights etc but they just happen to be right on this thing? What are the odds!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 13, 2022, 06:42:18 PM
Tucker Carlson is a lovely man

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Jumblegraws on May 13, 2022, 06:50:26 PM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 13, 2022, 02:47:50 PMI'm trying to work out if there are any parallels for Linehan. I've said before that I think he'll go down in history being reviled as the new Anita Bryant, and he does use some of her methods, but that doesn't seem to cover it.

It's the fact he 1) so palpably doesn't give a shit about the "issues" and 2) dedicates his time to methodically frightening the minority he claims to want to protect. (E.g. "I write about the current all-out assault on woman's rights".)

I can only really think of cult leaders like Jim Jones.
Quite honestly (and I realise you were thinking more along the lines of people who once had stature, but still) I think the best parallel is Chris-Chan, for no other reason than they both should have stepped away from the keyboard but instead over the course of years made life worse and worse for themselves out of pure compulsion. Of course, CWC can claim some considerable mitigating factors that Greybum can't.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 13, 2022, 07:12:08 PM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on May 13, 2022, 06:50:26 PMQuite honestly (and I realise you were thinking more along the lines of people who once had stature, but still) I think the best parallel is Chris-Chan, for no other reason than they both should have stepped away from the keyboard but instead over the course of years made life worse and worse for themselves out of pure compulsion. Of course, CWC can claim some considerable mitigating factors that Greybum can't.

It's not so much about stature or anything, I think I'm always just fascinated by how fake he is and by what actually drives him.

I'd boil it down to: 1) some kind of Superman syndrome where he has to be heralded as a hero, yet is simultaneously fine manipulating people by crying and lying and generally appearing weak and 2) just being horrible and negative and telling people off in a very controlling manner.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: monkfromhavana on May 13, 2022, 07:36:14 PM
I think it's a desperate desire to be liked and heralded. Someone came along and attacked him with good cause, his fragile ego couldn't handle it and he attacked back from the flimsiest of ground, which caused more people to attack/disagree with him, which he doubled down on, ad finitum.

We get to the point where he's invested so much in trying to protect his ego, right down to making totally absurd statements and holding fantastical opinions, that he can't get out of it. He can't quite have a full-on meltdown and get help and get better cos his ego won't let him. So he's trapped in this circle-jerk with his ego being stroked by "mentalists".
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 07:44:00 PM
I actually think there's a few parallels between GL and JK Rowling. Both received so much adoration and praise (her on a much bigger scale obviously). That must get addictive. Though they may have both gotten into GC stuff for different reasons I'm sure they both felt the slide into irrelevance that most people in the public eye probably feel at some stage especially when there's a constant batch of new talent and voices. To get praise and worship again and be told they're fighting for womens rights etc I'm sure that's addictive and makes them feel relevant all over again
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: shoulders on May 13, 2022, 07:44:52 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 04:07:02 PMDoes the fact that he's now cheek to cheek with far right homophobes and bigots ever bother him? Or does he even have enough self awareness for that


...And Christian 'family values' fundamentalists who are anti-abortion. A self-declared feminist promoting these people.

Anyone who is onside on the trans issue is fine, apparently. All justified in his massive, massive brains.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: shoulders on May 13, 2022, 07:49:22 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 07:44:00 PMI actually think there's a few parallels between GL and JK Rowling. Both received so much adoration and praise (her on a much bigger scale obviously). That must get addictive. Though they may have both gotten into GC stuff for different reasons I'm sure they both felt the slide into irrelevance that most people in the public eye probably feel at some stage especially when there's a constant batch of new talent and voices. To get praise and worship again and be told they're fighting for womens rights etc I'm sure that's addictive and makes them feel relevant all over again

If JKR can't successfully popularise trans-hate with her global profile and instead a generation of young people just go 'Huh... Fuck you on about mate', then transphobes can't win. What chance does the ogre BC stand if she can't do it? Zilch.

Nice to consider.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: shiftwork2 on May 13, 2022, 07:54:03 PM
I think there's a (kind of) similarity with David Icke.  Both were safe-hands media figures who had a controversial moment in public.  Both were embarrassed but proud and stubborn; to save face they had to plough on so far and so deep they made it into their lives.  It helps that they both made / make a good living out of it.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Famous Mortimer on May 13, 2022, 08:04:29 PM
That's a pretty good comparison. I like that Icke's not underselling his 2020 book "The Secret":

QuoteIt is not religious, economic or political, but something from which all else comes.

There is nothing more important to turn the world around than for the content of this book to be globally known.

The future of humanity depends upon it.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mtpromises on May 13, 2022, 08:14:57 PM
Neither BC or Icke managed to graduate college.

Speaking of which, Graham is giving his uneducated views on Planned Parenthood Toronto's Cotton Ceiling workshop from 10 years ago.  I was curious how wrong he got it, and it sounds like completely wrong is the answer.

From PPT Facebook:
QuoteThe purpose of the workshop "Overcoming the Cotton Ceiling: Breaking Down Sexual Barriers for Queer Trans Women" is to draw attention to the ways in which trans women are socially constructed as undesirable, and are denied full participation in queer women's communities. Stigma and social exclusion can have immense impacts on the health and well-being of all marginalized people, trans women included. PPT's mandate is one of equity; as such, we strongly stand behind queer trans women's right to participate as full members of LGBTQ communities, and are committed to promoting and upholding trans women's sexual health and well-being. Our programming for LGBTQ women serves all women who have sex with women (WSW), and since trans women are women, we provide programming that addresses the needs of the lesbian, bisexual, pansexual, and queer-identified trans women in our community.

https://m.facebook.com/PPToronto/posts/10150615471958021
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 08:16:30 PM
Quote from: shoulders on May 13, 2022, 07:49:22 PMIf JKR can't successfully popularise trans-hate with her global profile and instead a generation of young people just go 'Huh... Fuck you on about mate', then transphobes can't win. What chance does the ogre BC stand if she can't do it? Zilch.

Nice to consider.

Transphobes will never win. How do we know this? Because despite hate coming from all directions trans people continue to exist and will always exist no matter how many Substack posts are written
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: waste of chops on May 13, 2022, 08:20:57 PM
Who could Jon Ronson be talking about here I wonder

https://twitter.com/NewstalkFM/status/1525189635214819328

"I was sitting there watching friends get too involved in the transgender battle for instance and they kind of lost their minds. They lost their reputations, they lost their families, they lost all of their work. And their life just became this battle."
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 08:23:49 PM
I'm getting the popcorn ready for GL's inevitable meltdown when he sees that
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mindy Simmons on May 13, 2022, 08:30:32 PM
Quote from: waste of chops on May 13, 2022, 08:20:57 PMWho could Jon Ronson be talking about here I wonder

https://twitter.com/NewstalkFM/status/1525189635214819328

"I was sitting there watching friends get too involved in the transgender battle for instance and they kind of lost their minds. They lost their reputations, they lost their families, they lost all of their work. And their life just became this battle."

BC's shit stack is going to explode in verbal diarrhea in 3...2...1.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 08:36:43 PM
I can picture it already. 'You're an intellectual fraud and a coward, Jon Ronson!'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: NeaX on May 13, 2022, 08:45:38 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 08:36:43 PMI can picture it already. 'You're an intellectual fraud and a coward, Jon Ralphson!'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 13, 2022, 08:54:42 PM
For the non-Twitter people

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 13, 2022, 08:56:08 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 06:15:45 PMAnd they'll say 'I've been left wing my whole life'. Ok so the right have been wrong on marriage equality, wrong on reproductive rights etc but they just happen to be right on this thing? What are the odds!
And they never stop to question just why the right agree with them, or why a notoriously misogynistic tabloid agrees with them on their pet issue.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 13, 2022, 08:59:47 PM
Quote from: mtpromises on May 13, 2022, 08:14:57 PMNeither BC or Icke managed to graduate college.

Speaking of which, Graham is giving his uneducated views on Planned Parenthood Toronto's Cotton Ceiling workshop from 10 years ago.  I was curious how wrong he got it, and it sounds like completely wrong is the answer.

Wow, thanks for actually looking into that. Very easy for people to just base all their rage off titles and covers online.

Anyway, weirdest bit of that update for me is he linked to a site called ChangingMinds.org

QuoteWelcome to ChangingMinds.org, the largest site in the world on all aspects of how we change what others think, believe, feel and do. There are already around 7000 pages here, all free and with much more to come!

Gee I wonder why he's been reading that site for aspiring salesmen and creepy fucking pickup artists:

(https://i.postimg.cc/nh6HDgcV/IMG-20220513-205706.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 13, 2022, 09:19:51 PM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 13, 2022, 08:59:47 PMWow, thanks for actually looking into that. Very easy for people to just base all their rage off titles and covers online.

Anyway, weirdest bit of that update for me is he linked to a site called ChangingMinds.org

Gee I wonder why he's been reading that site for aspiring salesmen and creepy fucking pickup artists:

(https://i.postimg.cc/nh6HDgcV/IMG-20220513-205706.jpg)

No no Barry you see that's what the TRAs are doing! Fixing YouGov polls and denying reality and NAME-CALLING, all things Graham would never do, except when somebody deserves it
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 13, 2022, 09:21:46 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/HcHzvfA.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 13, 2022, 09:25:43 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 13, 2022, 09:21:46 PM(https://i.imgur.com/HcHzvfA.jpg)

He means he misses telling teenagers wearing chokers to shut UP. Fuck OFF.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 13, 2022, 09:30:11 PM
he says that as if he doesn't have at least one sockpuppet account that goes around calling everyone paedos
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phes on May 13, 2022, 09:40:16 PM
Swapped his whole life for causin aggro on a social media site then got shitcanned
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: DJ Bob Hoskins on May 13, 2022, 09:45:49 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 13, 2022, 09:21:46 PM(https://i.imgur.com/HcHzvfA.jpg)

Because that all worked out so well for him before?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: maizebasedsnack on May 13, 2022, 10:05:41 PM
Quote from: DJ Bob Hoskins on May 13, 2022, 09:45:49 PMBecause that all worked out so well for him before?

Love that Sian copied this for BC but left out your comment. She knows it would be too much for him.

Also, hi Sian *waves*
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: TommyTurnips on May 13, 2022, 10:15:28 PM
Quote from: BennyHedgehog on May 08, 2022, 02:33:06 PM


I would love it if there was a version of this where he is watching the sitcom "My Hero" starring Ardal O'Hanlon.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Alberon on May 13, 2022, 10:39:55 PM
Part of what fucked Linehan up so bad was being an early adopter of Twitter at the height of his fame.

All the followers convinced him he was a leader with important things to say. It first manifested with him being a Twitter Policeman, but it led him to believe he could use his influence to end this silly gender debate easily.

Then he kept, and indeed keeps, doubling down and we end up here.

Astonishing really.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 13, 2022, 10:43:37 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 13, 2022, 09:21:46 PM(https://i.imgur.com/HcHzvfA.jpg)

Translation: I do not care one iota for you, plebs, and you are meaningless to me
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 13, 2022, 10:45:23 PM
He already does that anyway under Oliophi.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 13, 2022, 10:50:42 PM
Quote from: maizebasedsnack on May 13, 2022, 10:05:41 PMLove that Sian copied this for BC but left out your comment. She knows it would be too much for him.

Also, hi Sian *waves*

Sian, show him that Jon Ronson clip 👍


(https://i.imgur.com/p3Xqva2.png)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 13, 2022, 10:53:31 PM
"...I'm going to make a lot of people uncomfortable" oh you're already there, mate, just not for the reason you think.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 13, 2022, 11:01:09 PM
Quote from: waste of chops on May 13, 2022, 08:20:57 PMWho could Jon Ronson be talking about here I wonder

https://twitter.com/NewstalkFM/status/1525189635214819328

Get that man to a chiropractor, stat.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 13, 2022, 11:13:26 PM
Quote from: Cold Meat Platter on May 13, 2022, 10:53:31 PM"...I'm going to make a lot of people uncomfortable" oh you're already there, mate, just not for the reason you think.
I'M NAMING NAMES

Graham you do that on your griefblog anyway, like a fucking psychopath

is this you admitting that nobody reads your piece of shitstack except True Believers and morbidly fascinated cunts like us?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: QDRPHNC on May 13, 2022, 11:15:57 PM
He is such an idiot.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: trabuch on May 13, 2022, 11:31:05 PM
Jon Ronson or Graham Linehan. Let the people decide.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: This isnt witty sorry on May 13, 2022, 11:38:44 PM
Matt Berry:  "I don't condone anything that that comedy portrayed, you know? I don't share any views that the writer has."

Damage. Limitation.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 14, 2022, 12:21:30 AM
Pretty sure someone on here said they were at a recording of House of Fools and either Vic or Bob used the word tr**ny and Matt Berry pulled them up on it. So he's talking from his fundament again.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Jumblegraws on May 14, 2022, 12:49:55 AM
Wonder why Matt Berry's one of the "good people" when he hasn't been any more publicly supportive of Glin-Glan than all the other former friends he sneers about?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 14, 2022, 12:55:00 AM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on May 14, 2022, 12:49:55 AMWonder why Matt Berry's one of the "good people" when he hasn't been any more publicly supportive of Glin-Glan than all the other former friends he sneers about?

I thought he'd been genuinely skilful, positioning himself in a deferential way that didn't challenge or annoy Linehan at all so he could escape his wrath and not be bothered again.

But when I said that before (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?msg=4808179), the common consensus was that Linehan just didn't want to risk harming relations with Athur Mathews.

Potential Pope Ted money must surely be enormous, as you then had Mathews coming out and saying he didn't think Linehan was a bigot.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Jumblegraws on May 14, 2022, 01:22:59 AM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 14, 2022, 12:55:00 AMI thought he'd been genuinely skilful, positioning himself in a deferential way that didn't challenge or annoy Linehan at all so he could escape his wrath and not be bothered again.
But the bar he seems to set for everyone else is "publicly support me or you're a bad person", which Berry didn't clear. And he comes perilously close to criticising Linehan and thus becoming a fully-fledged entry on the enemies list alongside Lee, Lucas et al.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 14, 2022, 02:26:59 AM
Does the 'heart by Author' indicate they've liked their own post?  I mean, I shouldn't be astonished by how petty these people can be, but there you go.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mtpromises on May 14, 2022, 06:48:02 AM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 14, 2022, 12:55:00 AMI thought he'd been genuinely skilful, positioning himself in a deferential way that didn't challenge or annoy Linehan at all so he could escape his wrath and not be bothered again.

That's exactly the way it sounded when Graham related his phone call to Matt on The Mess.  Since Matt didn't tell him to "fuck off" I'm sure BC's twisted it in his mind to agreement.

Here's the phone call to Matt: https://youtu.be/wiObTayUULw?t=3643
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 14, 2022, 07:12:07 AM
Quote from: Alberon on May 13, 2022, 10:39:55 PMPart of what fucked Linehan up so bad was being an early adopter of Twitter at the height of his fame.

And for a while it brought him new celebrity that just being a celebrated writer could never bring.

Appearances on HIGNFY etc.

A good counter example would be Rob Delaney, who similarly adopted Twitter early and rode it to celebrity (enough that he had that embarrassing bomb as a comedian slot on an American talk show).

But the difference is Delaney didn't go bananas and was smart enough to keep the train going until it landed him writing and acting gigs.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Wayman C. McCreery on May 14, 2022, 07:25:38 AM
Here's Graham apologising to alt-right grifter Ian Miles Cheong.

(https://i.ibb.co/Z8xGSSn/8-FE90-F32-046-A-4-A13-BE61-295-AFBD58-EEB.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 14, 2022, 08:09:22 AM
He did one of those on gettr a few weeks ago

(https://i.imgur.com/BvRRhDm.png)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: RicoMNKN on May 14, 2022, 08:14:16 AM
I wondered what Graham's favourite Trumpy anti-abortionist has said about him in the past...
(https://i.ibb.co/722145p/ian1.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
(https://i.ibb.co/Sx1X8ZY/ian2.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

Sian - please forward to BC.  I'm sure Ian will happily apologise back, as he and Graham are very reasonable feminists and not just bananas egomaniacs.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wrec on May 14, 2022, 08:17:39 AM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on May 14, 2022, 01:22:59 AMBut the bar he seems to set for everyone else is "publicly support me or you're a bad person", which Berry didn't clear. And he comes perilously close to criticising Linehan and thus becoming a fully-fledged entry on the enemies list alongside Lee, Lucas et al.

His reasons for condemning people or otherwise are less than logical and consistent anyway. He has the power to decide who's a traitor and will be found guilty in his fantasy show trial, and subsequently forced by rule of law to apologise to him, as they're blacklisted by the newly enlightened utopian society he will establish. The few people he still likes get a reprieve. It wouldn't be in the spirit of this hysterical vengeful fantasy to have coherent rules.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: shoulders on May 14, 2022, 08:18:09 AM
Quote from: maizebasedsnack on May 13, 2022, 10:05:41 PMLove that Sian copied this for BC but left out your comment. She knows it would be too much for him.

Also, hi Sian *waves*

Only God can smite him
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JaDanketies on May 14, 2022, 08:22:27 AM
Matt Berry was definitely more impolite and strident in his disagreements than Jon Ronson, who seemed harried by Linehan more than staunchly opposed to his transphobia. There's definitely a hidden reason why Matt Berry is avoiding his flaccid rage.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 14, 2022, 08:41:36 AM
Quote from: Wayman C. McCreery on May 14, 2022, 07:25:38 AMHere's Graham apologising to alt-right grifter Ian Miles Cheong.

(https://i.ibb.co/Z8xGSSn/8-FE90-F32-046-A-4-A13-BE61-295-AFBD58-EEB.jpg)
Makes sense. The ants have devoured both their brains.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: maizebasedsnack on May 14, 2022, 08:44:53 AM
Matt Berry is a pretty private guy. I follow a comedian on Instagram who was having a birthday party recently and Berry appeared in a few photos surrounded by friends, having a pretty normal life. No grief blogs, no second official Twitter account he has to lock. I imagine he does what most people off Twitter and have a normal life do when an angry friend or relative pulls them in to this issue - admit they don't have enough information on their particular point of view and fuck off as quickly as possible.

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: ajsmith2 on May 14, 2022, 10:13:19 AM
Did Glinner really delete his account in late 2017? Wonder why if so. As much as it's hard to find anything even tangentially positive to say about Glin these days, IMC was definitely cluelessly miles out in his attempt to link that into the Weinstein/Metoo stuff.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 14, 2022, 10:25:02 AM
Quote from: Wayman C. McCreery on May 14, 2022, 07:25:38 AM(https://i.ibb.co/Z8xGSSn/8-FE90-F32-046-A-4-A13-BE61-295-AFBD58-EEB.jpg)

"I have no confidence that was the right thing to do" - lmao he's still pushing this bollocks.

It's absolutely transparent that he's still hoping to segue into some kind of alt-right grifter, so he can get more attention and access to more people's state pensions.

So he's still trying to push this ludicrous narrative that everything he knew before he "got into the gender identity fight" was wrong, as an excuse to embrace more and more right-wing shit, and enourage them to start retweeting his transphobic bigotry when he unlocks his account. The absolute desperation. He really, really wants some of Ian Cheong's 300k followers.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 14, 2022, 10:30:28 AM
Glinnner fakes it all
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 14, 2022, 10:41:39 AM
See, look!  I can apologise!  I can admit when I'm wrong!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 14, 2022, 10:52:20 AM
If he really had a genuine burning desire to apologise I'm sure he could have sent a DM but the fact that he wanted his followers to tweet a screenshot shows he absolutely wants a slice of Ian's following
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 14, 2022, 10:57:01 AM
I think it's nice he's taken the time apologise to a twitter blue tick who's recently started a YT channel that already has twice the reach of Graham's.

I'm sure there's no ulterior motive here and he just wants to do the right thing

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 14, 2022, 11:03:00 AM
He's deluded if he thinks the far right crew want anything to do with him. Jordan Peterson can get away with crying on camera but GL can't. As someone pointed out here he is too incompetent and uncharismatic even for them
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 14, 2022, 12:48:30 PM
In addition to streamlining the banana timeline, should I add a bit to the next thread called "Glinvisionist History"? You know, "Gamergate was actually about young men standing up against cancel culture", "I don't know why I was banned from Twitter", "My wife left because of TRAs calling the police on me and telling lies" etc.? Basically any time he lies/changes his story about something major. Or is that too much?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 14, 2022, 01:04:06 PM
It's up to you really, but tracking his lies seems like a fairly epic task.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 14, 2022, 01:53:06 PM
KM posted this herself and if there is one place on the internet that knows about hairlines it's here.


(https://i.imgur.com/4h849UM.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/2vRw2KQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 14, 2022, 02:09:09 PM
So fucking pathetic to apologize to Ian Miles Cheong, desperate attempt to siphon followers and grovel to reactionaries. Graham get it into your thick fucking skull that they're going to hate you no matter what because you think feminism is good.

There is a lot I could say about Ian Miles Cheong but his old chat logs are always worth bringing up

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhPJ05QX0AAzSmn?format=jpg&name=large)

open in a new tab for larger image (http://"https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhPJ05QX0AAzSmn?format=jpg&name=large")

This is a guy who makes Attack Helicopter jokes and then turns out he's a Malaysian-Chinese person who identifies as white.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Pimhole on May 14, 2022, 02:11:08 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 14, 2022, 01:53:06 PMKM posted this herself and if there is one place on the internet that knows about hairlines it's here.


(https://i.imgur.com/4h849UM.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/2vRw2KQ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/MXISldS.png)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 14, 2022, 02:30:45 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 14, 2022, 01:53:06 PMKM posted this herself and if there is one place on the internet that knows about hairlines it's here.

That's made me miserable. It's always rotten to see cis women joining in with transmisogny. KM's full response is worth copying in I think:

QuoteI never normally bother commenting on these because it's beneath me, but I want to show you how transphobia is detached from reality

This cis woman called me "receding hairline" despite obviously that not being the case, but whilst having a slightly higher hairline than me

It doesn't matter what you look like, that isn't why they are saying it. They say things like this because they've been taught to say things like this to trans women and so they do. Doesn't have to make sense. It's just the insult you say to trans women to feel superior

There's nothing wrong with women who have high or low hairlines, or women with alopecia, or bald women. Some cis women are bald, some trans women are bald. So what

She's neither better or worse than me because of her hairline. But she is trying to enforce a world where the hairline of women contributes to their value, but is so confident and unthinking in feeling superior to trans women that she didn't even look to see if it was a self own
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 14, 2022, 02:31:43 PM
J.K. Hairline
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 14, 2022, 02:50:33 PM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 14, 2022, 02:30:45 PMThat's made me miserable. It's always rotten to see cis women joining in with transmisogny.

Yeah, I don't know how she takes it day in, day out, MN do it a lot too - it's simply bullying.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 14, 2022, 03:16:10 PM
Quote from: Dr Rock on May 14, 2022, 10:30:28 AMGlinnner fakes it all

next thread title I reckon
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 14, 2022, 04:30:32 PM
Quote from: RicoMNKN on May 14, 2022, 08:14:16 AMI wondered what Graham's favourite Trumpy anti-abortionist has said about him in the past...
(https://i.ibb.co/722145p/ian1.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
(https://i.ibb.co/Sx1X8ZY/ian2.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

Sian - please forward to BC.  I'm sure Ian will happily apologise back, as he and Graham are very reasonable feminists and not just bananas egomaniacs.

I don't know this Ian Miles Cheong guy, but is he pro-trans? He kind of sounds it there.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JaDanketies on May 14, 2022, 04:43:22 PM
Quote from: Mister Six on May 14, 2022, 04:30:32 PMI don't know this Ian Miles Cheong guy, but is he pro-trans? He kind of sounds it there.

I'm thinking that he's "reasonable concerns" where there's an acceptable level of transphobia, of which Glinner is far beyond. Perhaps saying that "trans women are women but they're not as womeny as cis women, who were raised having the woman experience."

When I first encountered the 'debate', I used to think, "perhaps there is a discussion to be had about something tangentially related to what these guys are talking about, but I strongly believe anyone who thinks Glinner is okay should definitely not be a part of this hypothetical discussion." Which doesn't sound too far removed from what this alt-right guy is saying.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 14, 2022, 04:50:03 PM
Quote from: JaDanketies on May 14, 2022, 04:43:22 PMI'm thinking that he's "reasonable concerns" where there's an acceptable level of transphobia, of which Glinner is far beyond. Perhaps saying that "trans women are women but they're not as womeny as cis women, who were raised having the woman experience."

When I first encountered the 'debate', I used to think, "perhaps there is a discussion to be had about something tangentially related to what these guys are talking about, but I strongly believe anyone who thinks Glinner is okay should definitely not be a part of this hypothetical discussion." Which doesn't sound too far removed from what this alt-right guy is saying.

Even then, he seems to acknowledge that thinking "trans women [are] claiming to own [cis] women's experiences" is de facto transphobic, which is surprising.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 14, 2022, 04:53:49 PM
GL is so transparent. People on his side have mildly criticised him and they're now on his list of 'arch enemies' (Helen Lewis, John Boyne, etc.) IMC called him far worse than anything those people have said (a nasty piece of work) and GL ends up 'apologising unreservedly' to him? It just goes to show he is the sort of person who is nice and courteous towards those he thinks can offer him an advantage. Utterly lacking in character and moral fibre
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 14, 2022, 05:10:34 PM
Quote from: Mister Six on May 14, 2022, 04:30:32 PMI don't know this Ian Miles Cheong guy, but is he pro-trans? He kind of sounds it there.

A quick Google seems to suggest he's got more hardcore since those 2018 screenshots, but can't say for sure. He got a lot of retweets for shit like Wii Spa, so yeah, totally a transactional apology from Linehan.

(https://i.postimg.cc/J4KVFsWS/IMG-20220514-164818.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 14, 2022, 05:16:23 PM
No mention of that Jon Ronson clip on the SGB today but he did post this

"Why do people like Jon Ronson and Aisling Bea pretend they can't see this?"


What has Aisling Bea ever done to him?!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Pimhole on May 14, 2022, 05:46:12 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 14, 2022, 05:16:23 PMWhat has Aisling Bea ever done to him?!

She wouldn't do as she was told
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 14, 2022, 05:52:47 PM
And she's attractive and successful
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 14, 2022, 06:07:20 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 14, 2022, 05:52:47 PMAnd she's attractive and successful

and Irish.

She had a mention back in July 21 on the SGB, plus another random 'list' mention

(https://i.imgur.com/Y5xTp2l.jpg)



Alsoshe was lined up to be in this

What happened to Adam Buxton and Graham Linehan's sci-fi sitcom 'The Cloud?'

https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=70747.0

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mtpromises on May 14, 2022, 06:30:24 PM
Quote from: ajsmith2 on May 14, 2022, 10:13:19 AMDid Glinner really delete his account in late 2017? Wonder why if so.

In delicious irony, BC quit because he felt Twitter wasn't banning blue ticked people who are bigots.  And North Korea.

https://web.archive.org/web/20171016003350/https://medium.com/@glinner/goodbye-toilet-town-576cbcae1615
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 14, 2022, 06:36:35 PM
I'M QUITTING TWITTER

for an hour
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 14, 2022, 06:38:51 PM
This came up in the search too, dressed as handmaid(en)s back in 2018

(https://i.imgur.com/qfNyzoQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mtpromises on May 14, 2022, 08:57:31 PM
Arty is back with his solo cast.  I feel not enough credit is given to the little fella for starting The Mess in the first place.  But I'll let BC worry about who gets what credit.

Arty has detrans du jour on, Shape Shifter.  Apparently they were known for their own videos and Exluansic doing "critical" videos of them.  I'd never heard of them myself, but they're hitting everything hard right now.  I'd be surprised if they weren't trotted out on the SGB or Mess.

Shape Shifter talked about the book they plan on writing called "Escaping the 41%".  SS actually implies she's not going to escape the 41%.  Arty doesn't push back at all, usually terfs jump up and down screaming that number isn't real.

SS comes off as pretty disingenuous, talking about not wanting to be famous or public, but making a YouTube channel where they talked about some pretty private stuff.  And you know, bragging about a  book they haven't written with a super provocative title.  Their publicity tour is supposed to continue on massive asshole, Benjamin Boyce's channel.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 14, 2022, 10:15:17 PM
Blimey, has BC mentioned it

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on May 14, 2022, 11:40:20 PM
Morty looks about 2 foot tall there, like some sort of evil gnome
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 14, 2022, 11:43:00 PM
See the little goblin
See his little feet
And his little nosey-wose
Isn't the goblin sweet
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Juan K Perros on May 15, 2022, 12:26:14 AM
Helen types 'penis'
Linehan's leg fidgets
He's hosting a zoom call
This Canadian midget

Helen says 'penis'
Graham gives a snort
Arty reflects
That he's bald and short

We've all shat our lives
And careers in the bin
To waffle such drivel
The mess that we're in

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mippy on May 15, 2022, 12:40:26 AM
Enby..so SS is non-binary now?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 15, 2022, 12:56:24 AM
Only watched the first thirty seconds, but Arty says she's a trans woman, and keeps correctly gendering her.  He never does that when Linehan is about, does he?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 15, 2022, 01:19:48 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSwhzv6XwAEsl2t.png)

graham tries to instigate a pile on...then replies to himself at midnight when it doesn't work.

1 Like. Back in the big leagues.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 15, 2022, 02:14:53 AM
Quote from: Cold Meat Platter on May 14, 2022, 11:43:00 PMSee the little goblin
See his little feet
And his little nosey-wose
Isn't the goblin sweet

'NO!'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 15, 2022, 02:19:06 AM
I missed this since-deleted whoops moment from a couple of days ago:

(https://i.imgur.com/5Bk5bW2.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 15, 2022, 02:19:39 AM
GC's tend to be quite prudish, don't they?
Spoiler alert
(https://i.imgur.com/nIJuoO0.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/xAPPXp9.png)
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The bananas thing is that if you follow a bunch of TERFs on Twitter, you'll see that they endlessly share pics and videos of trans people in various states of undress, post surgery etc.  They don't seem so prudish when it comes to mocking someones appearance.  They shout about how womens rights are being eroded, then share a penis surgery video, then a quote from the bible (tehe).

I suppose it's just what any *-phobe does, try and find pictures and videos of the object of hate in a negative or compromising way and using that to try and convince others that they are right in thinking this way.  It just seems so utterly fucking mental, these people obviously are revolted by things that are different to them, but then spend all of their time seeking out the worst shit they can find.

Anyway, you know how from time to time BC likes to label us as 'obsessed'?  Is anyone from CaB keeping a Google Drive document meticulously detailing a twitter user in the hopes they might get them arrested?  With archive links and everything?

QuoteThe Anonymous Researcher has collected evidence that shows why it is
reasonable to believe that there is a very real threat of MVAWG at the upcoming
Manchester gathering on Sunday the 15th of May 2022.

(Probably want to open this via incognito window)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WTJsiR11ISPMbKWoaZlgEfSRUGr2q0CT/view 
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 15, 2022, 02:44:37 AM
Mad how even after all this time we still have to recalibrate the bellendometer every single day.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mtpromises on May 15, 2022, 07:48:36 AM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 15, 2022, 12:56:24 AMOnly watched the first thirty seconds, but Arty says she's a trans woman, and keeps correctly gendering her.  He never does that when Linehan is about, does he?
As much as BC has declared total war and the right to dead name, he actually uses real names and pronouns mostly on The Mess.  I honestly couldn't say if it's cause he's not the most bigoted of jerks or if it's just too confusing for him.

Arty actually does seem to stick to real names and pro-nouns though he's kept his head down.  His sympathy for "true trans" was a big part of the fuel for Arty's shunning last November.  Ray Blanchard's Mess ofcourse, was the catalyst.

Speaking of which, Arty mentioned being part of LGB Alliance Canda.  I hope Karen Davis noticed, been a lack of infighting lately.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 15, 2022, 10:57:42 AM
Is BC hitting on his interviewee at 27:14 after a stumbling and fawning interview?

https://youtu.be/YHxiOQzN7vc?t=1634

Lots of presumptive close action going on, not giving an option say no and asking questions that eliminate excuses.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 15, 2022, 11:08:02 AM
urgh

and in front of a live audience, classy stuff
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: petril on May 15, 2022, 11:22:08 AM
Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 14, 2022, 12:48:30 PMIn addition to streamlining the banana timeline, should I add a bit to the next thread called "Glinvisionist History"? You know, "Gamergate was actually about young men standing up against cancel culture", "I don't know why I was banned from Twitter", "My wife left because of TRAs calling the police on me and telling lies" etc.? Basically any time he lies/changes his story about something major. Or is that too much?

might be good if it's a list of every revision in rough chronological order. just to show that he's not consistent at all
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 15, 2022, 11:37:04 AM
Quote from: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 15, 2022, 02:19:06 AMI missed this since-deleted whoops moment from a couple of days ago:

(https://i.imgur.com/5Bk5bW2.jpg)

lol is this real? I'm imagining a mafia boss in an obvious disguise having to slap a henchman upside the head because they kept ruining it by saying "you tell 'em boss!!"
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 15, 2022, 11:45:07 AM
Quote from: BennyHedgehog on May 15, 2022, 10:57:42 AMIs BC hitting on his interviewee at 27:14 after a stumbling and fawning interview?

https://youtu.be/YHxiOQzN7vc?t=1634

Lots of presumptive close action going on, not giving an option say no and asking questions that eliminate excuses.


I am sooooooo unsurprised.

"That's a Father Ted line, people will recognise it..."

(https://c.tenor.com/7se6qNcIEwYAAAAC/yikes-chrissy-teigen.gif)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: superthunderstingcar on May 15, 2022, 11:52:02 AM
Quote from: retsuza on May 15, 2022, 11:37:04 AMlol is this real? I'm imagining a mafia boss in an obvious disguise having to slap a henchman upside the head because they kept ruining it by saying "you tell 'em boss!!"
(https://y.yarn.co/5baf275b-0aab-4370-91b0-35e7a89e4343_text.gif)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 15, 2022, 11:52:53 AM
Quote from: retsuza on May 15, 2022, 11:37:04 AMlol is this real? I'm imagining a mafia boss in an obvious disguise having to slap a henchman upside the head because they kept ruining it by saying "you tell 'em boss!!"

"Your name will also go on the ban list. What is it?"

"Don't tell 'em Graham!"
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 15, 2022, 12:38:39 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/RqvvwjE.jpg)

... because of this


(https://i.imgur.com/8y9EZdD.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: canadagoose on May 15, 2022, 12:40:58 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 15, 2022, 12:38:39 PM(https://i.imgur.com/RqvvwjE.jpg)

... because of this


(https://i.imgur.com/8y9EZdD.jpg)

Ah yes, trans rights are actually all about CROBBLY BOBBLY. Conspiracy dogshit.

Edit: It reads as if she's saying "trans people are worthless obv, this must actually be about my minority, the one that matters". In my opinion. Arsehole.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Pimhole on May 15, 2022, 12:42:54 PM
It's always on a Sunday isn't it? People like her and JKR. "I'm bored. How can I get some attention?"
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: buttgammon on May 15, 2022, 12:43:18 PM
Absolute stupidity from a very stupid person (Riley). Also, what about the antisemitic conspiracy theories that so often intersect with transphobic ones?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mr. logic on May 15, 2022, 12:45:01 PM
Quote from: BennyHedgehog on May 15, 2022, 10:57:42 AMIs BC hitting on his interviewee at 27:14 after a stumbling and fawning interview?

https://youtu.be/YHxiOQzN7vc?t=1634

Lots of presumptive close action going on, not giving an option say no and asking questions that eliminate excuses.


Haha, pure Partridge that. 'I'm there on Sunday.'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 15, 2022, 12:53:12 PM
Is Riley stupid though? Seems to me she always knows exactly what she's doing. Someone who went hammer and tongs destroying the left opposition, now supporting biological essentialism to segregate the true "females" from the false ones.

Love you Britain ❤
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 15, 2022, 12:54:11 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 15, 2022, 12:38:39 PM(https://i.imgur.com/RqvvwjE.jpg)

... because of this


(https://i.imgur.com/8y9EZdD.jpg)


How can I make this issue more about me?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 15, 2022, 12:54:23 PM
Rowling definitely did hate Corbyn the tory twat she is, you can search on twitter for:

from:jk_rowling Corbyn

She got mad once that people were comparing him to Dumbledore lol.

But as usual with he anti-corbyn and anti-sanders types, even though the most fervent supporters of them have moved on, the antis are still completely obsessed.

Fairly obvious to anyone with half a brain that she's being given criticism for the trans hate stuff and I don't think anyone cares about the Corb drama anymore. Can hardly even single her out for that because half the assholes who appear in Brit media were doing the same shit.

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 15, 2022, 12:58:36 PM
She wrote a whole faux biblical Christmas story on twitter about how Jeremy wasnt the messiah. Kinda gets forgotten now shes got obsessed for this but it was quite extraordinary. As I've said, she made a fortune writing about wizards, if you can't make society work for you, you're just not trying hard enough. Defending the elite status quo turns out to be the overriding theme of wizard books incidentally
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: GoblinAhFuckScary on May 15, 2022, 01:19:18 PM
Quote from: BennyHedgehog on May 15, 2022, 10:57:42 AMIs BC hitting on his interviewee at 27:14 after a stumbling and fawning interview?

https://youtu.be/YHxiOQzN7vc?t=1634

Lots of presumptive close action going on, not giving an option say no and asking questions that eliminate excuses.


comment on that video good grief

(https://i.imgur.com/NdRzHrH.png)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 15, 2022, 01:24:27 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 15, 2022, 12:38:39 PM(https://i.imgur.com/RqvvwjE.jpg)

... because of this


(https://i.imgur.com/8y9EZdD.jpg)


Bet he's salivating himself at thinking he has a potential new ally. She's not going to appear on the Mess, Graham. How long before Birdy Rose makes an image
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 15, 2022, 01:27:09 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on May 15, 2022, 12:58:36 PMShe wrote a whole faux biblical Christmas story on twitter about how Jeremy wasnt the messiah. Kinda gets forgotten now shes got obsessed for this but it was quite extraordinary. As I've said, she made a fortune writing about wizards, if you can't make society work for you, you're just not trying hard enough. Defending the elite status quo turns out to be the overriding theme of wizard books incidentally

The fact that Harry and his magical pals go on to work for the Ministry of Magic or Hogwarts, two institutions that have been overrun by wizard Hitler at least twice and their only solution seems to be, "Okay, this time we'll hire nice wizards" says a lot about Rowling's view on power.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 15, 2022, 01:45:42 PM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 15, 2022, 11:45:07 AMI am sooooooo unsurprised.

"That's a Father Ted line, people will recognise it..."

(https://c.tenor.com/7se6qNcIEwYAAAAC/yikes-chrissy-teigen.gif)

Nah, good luck to him. I'm sure it'll go swimmingly


(https://i.imgur.com/22nrOTz.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: DreadedScotsman on May 15, 2022, 02:34:14 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on May 15, 2022, 01:27:09 PMThe fact that Harry and his magical pals go on to work for the Ministry of Magic or Hogwarts, two institutions that have been overrun by wizard Hitler at least twice and their only solution seems to be, "Okay, this time we'll hire nice wizards" says a lot about Rowling's view on power.

The books like to present it as a poor little Harry overcoming difficulties to win but the reality he's an incredibly rich jock from a well respected family who goes on to become a slave owning cop.

Quote from: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 15, 2022, 02:19:06 AMI missed this since-deleted whoops moment from a couple of days ago:

(https://i.imgur.com/5Bk5bW2.jpg)

Nice catch, I do wonder if she did that intentionally to wind Graham up or if it was a genuine mistake
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 15, 2022, 03:02:07 PM
Corbyn still living rent free in Riley's head. Pathetic.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 15, 2022, 03:26:07 PM
Lol. https://youtu.be/0nl6u66vRss?t=6262

"We knew, we knew when we gave her the mic"

(https://i.imgur.com/bZWuXJZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: YouCantWriteTearsJimmy on May 15, 2022, 03:41:28 PM
Quote from: BennyHedgehog on May 15, 2022, 03:26:07 PMLol. https://youtu.be/0nl6u66vRss?t=6262

"We knew, we knew when we gave her the mic"


It really is just a rotation of the same people, isn't it. Finally something interesting happened.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 15, 2022, 03:54:51 PM
Fuck, I found that quite shocking and genuinely unsettling. The way one of them gets out of her seat to shout "ARE MEN" right in the woman's ear is grim.

And then chasing after her to get the mic and shut her up, it all looked really aggressive. And I thought they loved free speech?

God, the sooner this hate movement fucks off the better. The chanting and general aggression was disgusting.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 15, 2022, 04:56:32 PM
lmao

also after Posie goes "some of those men over there are 6'4" in dresses"

goodness! who ever heard of a woman nearly 2 metres tall??!

but yeah Posie is high on hate now just saying there's "no such thing as trans", which would have been an offensive thing to say decades ago

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: GoblinAhFuckScary on May 15, 2022, 04:57:20 PM
they're all about 90 so dead soon
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mjwilson on May 15, 2022, 05:15:23 PM
Quote from: BennyHedgehog on May 15, 2022, 03:26:07 PMLol. https://youtu.be/0nl6u66vRss?t=6262

"Manchester Speaker's Corner" my arse.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: YouCantWriteTearsJimmy on May 15, 2022, 05:25:21 PM
Quote from: GoblinAhFuckScary on May 15, 2022, 04:57:20 PMthey're all about 90 so dead soon

HEY! No Agism! (I want to get to 90). I was kind of surprised how young they were, but i think it's pretty clear they are a bit lower income vulnerable people ... same demographics the alt-right is aiming at. Poor dudz.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on May 15, 2022, 05:30:06 PM
Quote from: retsuza on May 15, 2022, 12:54:23 PMRowling definitely did hate Corbyn the tory twat she is,


She gave a million quid to Labour when ed milliband was leader
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 15, 2022, 05:52:19 PM
Back to Arty Morty, I just like to say that just because I try to refrain from attacks on people's appearance it doesn't mean I haven't got loads ready to go.

Spoiler alert
eg. he looks like a snowman.
[close]
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 15, 2022, 06:08:18 PM
Arty Morty is going to disappear down the back of his sofa if he's not careful
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 15, 2022, 06:16:22 PM
Isn't chanting "trans women are men" sort of showing up their concern for women's spaces and sport to be the bullshit we all know it is and shows they are just transphobic, which they all claim not to be?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 15, 2022, 06:21:14 PM
Quote from: phantom_power on May 15, 2022, 06:16:22 PMIsn't chanting "trans women are men" sort of showing up their concern for women's spaces and sport to be the bullshit we all know it is and shows they are just transphobic, which they all claim not to be?

You have given this 100% more thought than any of them have.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 15, 2022, 06:25:27 PM
Did Mr Menno do his song?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: GoblinAhFuckScary on May 15, 2022, 06:27:12 PM
Quote from: YouCantWriteTearsJimmy on May 15, 2022, 05:25:21 PMHEY! No Agism! (I want to get to 90). I was kind of surprised how young they were, but i think it's pretty clear they are a bit lower income vulnerable people ... same demographics the alt-right is aiming at. Poor dudz.

Do you think? I deffo get an older middle class impression.

Spoiler alert
BIG no to living to 90 though
[close]
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 15, 2022, 06:29:08 PM
Quote from: Dr Rock on May 15, 2022, 05:52:19 PMBack to Arty Morty, I just like to say that just because I try to refrain from attacks on people's appearance it doesn't mean I haven't got loads ready to go.

Spoiler alert
eg. he looks like a snowman.
[close]

I always thought that Arty Morty looks like what would happen if you crossbred Paul Giamatti, Wallace Shawn and Richard Kind.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 15, 2022, 06:35:44 PM
Graham Linehan hitting on Holly Lawford-Smith clipped extended

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 15, 2022, 06:39:34 PM
"Early Monday, so not much time lef-"

"PERFECT! D'YOU HAVE ANY PLANS?"
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wrec on May 15, 2022, 06:45:43 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 15, 2022, 06:35:44 PMGraham Linehan hitting on Holly Lawford-Smith clipped


The Ted bit is essential 😠
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 15, 2022, 06:57:49 PM
Yep.

Quote from: idunnosomename on May 15, 2022, 04:56:32 PMalso after Posie goes "some of those men over there are 6'4" in dresses"

Yeah I really enjoyed that as a particularly tall man. Good to know that makes me some kind of extra-threatening male.

Edit: just saw this - so a ribbon is a noose now, and is as inherently threatening as a tall man? Did Marion Millar sell her house for nothing?

(https://i.postimg.cc/L4BG4Mtt/IMG-20220515-190643.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 15, 2022, 07:09:14 PM
Peter Sutcliffe was 5'8 so relatively harmless.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Guppy on May 15, 2022, 07:18:13 PM
Graham is 6'5". Exceedingly dangerous.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 15, 2022, 07:31:21 PM
Why the fuck did all those guys turn up dressed in black with masks and hoods anyway?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 15, 2022, 07:47:49 PM
"Our side and theirs"

These are adults... I think.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 15, 2022, 07:49:58 PM
I thought those were GC colours on that ribbon? Also, it's Emmeline.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 15, 2022, 08:05:59 PM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 15, 2022, 03:54:51 PMFuck, I found that quite shocking and genuinely unsettling. The way one of them gets out of her seat to shout "ARE MEN" right in the woman's ear is grim.

And then chasing after her to get the mic and shut her up, it all looked really aggressive. And I thought they loved free speech?

God, the sooner this hate movement fucks off the better. The chanting and general aggression was disgusting.

Yeah, it's a bit grim. What's more, the forum favorite Alex Bramham and his nutso ex-boyfriend were among the chasers.

(https://i.imgur.com/twcb7b3.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Elfking on May 15, 2022, 08:20:14 PM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 15, 2022, 06:57:49 PMYep.

Yeah I really enjoyed that as a particularly tall man. Good to know that makes me some kind of extra-threatening male.

Edit: just saw this - so a ribbon is a noose now, and is as inherently threatening as a tall man? Did Marion Millar sell her house for nothing?

(https://i.postimg.cc/L4BG4Mtt/IMG-20220515-190643.jpg)

Where did they get that picture? My first thought is that it's one of them pretending to be TRA just to look as bad as possible and say "See!"
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 15, 2022, 08:21:11 PM
Quote from: wrec on May 15, 2022, 06:45:43 PMThe Ted bit is essential 😠

Oops, sorry I've swapped it

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mtpromises on May 15, 2022, 08:27:49 PM
Too bad that guy was there.  It'd been great to see all those TERFS on their mobility scooters give chase to the mic hero.

Quote from: Elfking on May 15, 2022, 08:20:14 PMWhere did they get that picture? My first thought is that it's one of them pretending to be TRA just to look as bad as possible and say "See!"

I think they wanted to speak by the statue, but trans right activist occupied it first.  There were about 8, 6 in black.  There are a few tweets about the police not moving them.

I think protesting in a balklva and hoodie is smart, unless you want your face out there as a leader.  Why give them any info?  These TERFS are total assholes, who will harass your family and employers.  Plus, even in self defense, hitting an old lady looks bad.  Best to keep it anonymous.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 15, 2022, 08:28:02 PM
Quote from: BennyHedgehog on May 15, 2022, 08:05:59 PMWhat's more, the forum favorite Alex Bramham and his nutso ex-boyfriend were among the chasers.

Can't pass up a reason to post this

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 15, 2022, 08:28:55 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 15, 2022, 08:21:11 PMOops, sorry I've swapped it



Is it possible to die from cringing so much?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 15, 2022, 08:32:16 PM
Quote from: mtpromises on May 15, 2022, 08:27:49 PMI think protesting in a balklva and hoodie is smart, unless you want your face out there as a leader.  Why give them any info?  These TERFS are total assholes, who will harass your family and employers.  Plus, even in self defense, hitting an old lady looks bad.  Best to keep it anonymous.

I agree, loads of protestors are doing this, it's too easy to be recognised on social media now and with face recogntion ramping up and the new police powers it makes sense
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Elfking on May 15, 2022, 08:39:34 PM
I would be proud to be identified as a protestor against TERFs
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: king_tubby on May 15, 2022, 08:40:57 PM
Quote from: mtpromises on May 15, 2022, 08:27:49 PMIt'd been great to see all those TERFS on their mobility scooters give chase to the mic hero.

Ah, less of this please, we're not on their level.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wrec on May 15, 2022, 08:42:51 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 15, 2022, 08:21:11 PMOops, sorry I've swapped it



Beautiful / terrible, thanks!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 15, 2022, 08:53:54 PM
https://twitter.com/alliecrewephoto/status/1525910330047700992?t=vo0D1yUUqpwlo8S11CdVZQ&s=19

(https://i.imgur.com/XbtQnQX.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: somersetchris on May 15, 2022, 09:01:21 PM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 15, 2022, 07:49:58 PMI thought those were GC colours on that ribbon? Also, it's Emmeline.

Confusing Emmeline Pankhurst with Emily Davison? What's the betting they think they're the same person?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 15, 2022, 09:04:01 PM
Good for you, Allie.

ETA; Davison does have a statue, but not in Manchester. It is Emmeline Pankhurst. (https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2018/dec/14/thousands-turn-out-for-unveiling-of-emmeline-pankhurst-statue-in-manchester)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: selectivememory on May 15, 2022, 09:43:03 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 15, 2022, 08:21:11 PMOops, sorry I've swapped it



Haha, oh nooo Graham. The bit where he explains the Ted line... 😬
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: somersetchris on May 15, 2022, 10:16:05 PM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 15, 2022, 09:04:01 PMGood for you, Allie.

ETA; Davison does have a statue, but not in Manchester. It is Emmeline Pankhurst. (https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2018/dec/14/thousands-turn-out-for-unveiling-of-emmeline-pankhurst-statue-in-manchester)

Yes that's what I meant, the person referring to it as 'Emily' may not realise that Emmeline Pankhurst and Emily Davison are different people (not that you'd got it wrong).
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 15, 2022, 10:30:12 PM
Was watching this interesting interview with Louis Theroux and the topic got onto cults and Qanon:
(to timestamp)

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Famous Mortimer on May 15, 2022, 10:36:34 PM
Michael Shermer there, who has a section like this in his Wikipedia entry:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Shermer#Allegations_of_sexual_harassment
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 15, 2022, 11:42:04 PM
Somewhat Glinner-adjacent as it mentions his favourite source, KiwiFarms. Behind the Bastards has done a two(?) parter on how the harassment and trolling of Chris-Chan set the stage for that kind of online behaviour.

Part One: A Terrible Story About The Internet (https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-one-a-terrible-story-about-96695551/)

Part Two: A Terrible Story About The Internet (https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-two-a-terrible-story-about-96802990/)

EDIT: Mention of suicide at the start of part 1
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wrec on May 15, 2022, 11:59:26 PM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 15, 2022, 06:57:49 PMEdit: just saw this - so a ribbon is a noose now, and is as inherently threatening as a tall man? Did Marion Millar sell her house for nothing?

The phrases "trans noose" and "ribbon noose" being used as if there are such things. Clearly a death threat!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 16, 2022, 12:20:10 AM
It's amusing to see the TERFs taking the piss out of the 'pound shop ninjas' when they've literally been running around in inflatable dinosaur costumes for the past 6 months.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 16, 2022, 12:48:24 AM
Quote from: somersetchris on May 15, 2022, 10:16:05 PMYes that's what I meant, the person referring to it as 'Emily' may not realise that Emmeline Pankhurst and Emily Davison are different people (not that you'd got it wrong).
It's OK, I guessed what you meant!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 16, 2022, 12:48:37 AM
Charlie Veitch video shows a bit more of what was going on at the statue, looks like the police were making sure the ninjas didnt get crowded, two were in wheelchairs (just out of shot behind the statue)

It all looks pretty good natured.

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: C_Larence on May 16, 2022, 12:49:43 AM
Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 15, 2022, 11:42:04 PMSomewhat Glinner-adjacent as it mentions his favourite source, KiwiFarms. Behind the Bastards has done a two(?) parter on how the harassment and trolling of Chris-Chan set the stage for that kind of online behaviour.

Part One: A Terrible Story About The Internet (https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-one-a-terrible-story-about-96695551/)

Part Two: A Terrible Story About The Internet (https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-two-a-terrible-story-about-96802990/)

EDIT: Mention of suicide at the start of part 1

Seems to be blocked in the UK unfortunately
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 16, 2022, 12:51:10 AM
Quote from: C_Larence on May 16, 2022, 12:49:43 AMSeems to be blocked in the UK unfortunately

It's on Spotify
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 16, 2022, 12:52:40 AM
Quote from: C_Larence on May 16, 2022, 12:49:43 AMSeems to be blocked in the UK unfortunately
Strange. I'm listening in Ireland. You can find the episodes on Google Podcasts and Spotify too.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: C_Larence on May 16, 2022, 12:57:05 AM
Ah ok, thanks! I think someone posted recently about the parallels between BC and CWC, although there are of course many differences (For instance, Graham never wrote anything as good as "So Need A Cute Girl (https://youtu.be/0tCrBvkTVZA)"). Will listen now.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 16, 2022, 01:04:58 AM
Quote from: C_Larence on May 16, 2022, 12:57:05 AMAh ok, thanks! I think someone posted recently about the parallels between BC and CWC, although there are of course many differences (For instance, Graham never wrote anything as good as "So Need A Cute Girl (https://youtu.be/0tCrBvkTVZA)"). Will listen now.

The Gamer From Mars did a four part video on Chris Chan recently which is pretty definitive if you want even more

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 16, 2022, 01:10:40 AM
Quote from: mtpromises on May 15, 2022, 08:27:49 PMI think protesting in a balklva and hoodie is smart, unless you want your face out there as a leader.  Why give them any info?  These TERFS are total assholes, who will harass your family and employers.  Plus, even in self defense, hitting an old lady looks bad.  Best to keep it anonymous.

Sorry, I don't agree. In fact I think it was really bloody stupid and played right into the transphobes hands again.

If you want to conceal your identity then there are less threatening ways of doing it than dressing up like a fucking paramilitary. This is particularly true when the media is not on your side, and your opponents are aging women pissing about with Tunnocks Teacakes, who have now spent literally years constructing this image of "violent TRA's."

Really, I actually can't believe people did it, and agree with @Elfking that it looks so bad you'd almost think it was staged by anti-trans activists. 
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 16, 2022, 01:10:58 AM
Quote from: wrec on May 15, 2022, 08:42:51 PMBeautiful / terrible, thanks!

The Linehan chat-up video is the perfect combination of Alan Partridge trying to get an invite to the Duchess of Stranraer's house ('if we "discuss it nearer the time", it's not going to happen is it?') and Alan Partridge trying to arrange a time to get into the showers with two female badminton players.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: C_Larence on May 16, 2022, 01:15:08 AM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 16, 2022, 01:04:58 AMThe Gamer From Mars did a four part video on Chris Chan recently which is pretty definitive if you want even more


Cheers, will get on that after the podcast. I found the Geno doc ended up getting a little stale after 30 episodes, so 4 videos sounds more bearable. I suppose enough time has passed that I might be able to get back into Geno if I tried again. Rabbit hole here I come!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 16, 2022, 01:42:57 AM
Quote from: mtpromises on May 15, 2022, 08:27:49 PMToo bad that guy was there.  It'd been great to see all those TERFS on their mobility scooters give chase to the mic hero.

I think they wanted to speak by the statue, but trans right activist occupied it first.  There were about 8, 6 in black.  There are a few tweets about the police not moving them.

I think protesting in a balklva and hoodie is smart, unless you want your face out there as a leader.  Why give them any info?  These TERFS are total assholes, who will harass your family and employers.  Plus, even in self defense, hitting an old lady looks bad.  Best to keep it anonymous.

The optics aren't great at all, imagine how it would look to a neutral passer by who knows nothing about all of this?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: sambwel on May 16, 2022, 01:53:12 AM
I strongly recommend this video to anyone taking a detour into the Chris-Chan phenomenon. It's a thought provoking look at what the deal actually is with 'cringe', focusing on Chris-Chan as an example.

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 16, 2022, 02:41:08 AM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 16, 2022, 01:42:57 AMThe optics aren't great at all, imagine how it would look to a neutral passer by who knows nothing about all of this?

And of course, Rowling has jumped on it:

(https://i.postimg.cc/L5cPxd14/IMG-20220516-015337.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: g0m on May 16, 2022, 05:18:48 AM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 15, 2022, 08:53:54 PMhttps://twitter.com/alliecrewephoto/status/1525910330047700992?t=vo0D1yUUqpwlo8S11CdVZQ&s=19

(https://i.imgur.com/XbtQnQX.jpg)

Tweet has been deleted
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 16, 2022, 05:21:54 AM
Put me down for 'not a bad idea, but shit execution jesus christ did no one think this through':

(https://i.imgur.com/xuuJt4F.png)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 16, 2022, 06:46:34 AM
Especially nowadays when you could conceal you identity wearing a Covid mask and no-one would bat an eyelid or call it violent or suspicious

Also, even if they were violent thugs it doesn't make the side they are on wrong. It just makes them twats. There is too much playing the man and not the ball in political debate these days
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: YouCantWriteTearsJimmy on May 16, 2022, 07:45:51 AM
Quote from: GoblinAhFuckScary on May 15, 2022, 06:27:12 PMDo you think? I deffo get an older middle class impression.

Spoiler alert
BIG no to living to 90 though
[close]

The "leaders", yes, but the followers, no. I mean, I can't do a demographic study, but if you take Pew research and consider educational degrees as indicative for income, middle class and upper class are more accepting (US figures ofc). The few studies I've found regarding parental acceptance of their transkids seem to corroborate that.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 16, 2022, 08:35:04 AM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 16, 2022, 02:41:08 AMAnd of course, Rowling has jumped on it:

(https://i.postimg.cc/L5cPxd14/IMG-20220516-015337.jpg)

One minute she says it was "intimidating", the next it's "unintentionally hilarious", which is it?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 16, 2022, 08:36:42 AM
Whichever one makes the trans people look bad.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mr_Rich on May 16, 2022, 08:48:03 AM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 16, 2022, 01:10:40 AMSorry, I don't agree. In fact I think it was really bloody stupid and played right into the transphobes hands again.

If you want to conceal your identity then there are less threatening ways of doing it than dressing up like a fucking paramilitary. This is particularly true when the media is not on your side, and your opponents are aging women pissing about with Tunnocks Teacakes, who have now spent literally years constructing this image of "violent TRA's."

Really, I actually can't believe people did it, and agree with @Elfking that it looks so bad you'd almost think it was staged by anti-trans activists. 

Completely agree with you in this, it seemed needlessly sinister and threatening, which is the precise narrative that's being built against TRA.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on May 16, 2022, 08:50:04 AM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 16, 2022, 01:10:40 AMSorry, I don't agree. In fact I think it was really bloody stupid and played right into the transphobes hands again.

If you want to conceal your identity then there are less threatening ways of doing it than dressing up like a fucking paramilitary. This is particularly true when the media is not on your side, and your opponents are aging women pissing about with Tunnocks Teacakes, who have now spent literally years constructing this image of "violent TRA's."

Really, I actually can't believe people did it, and agree with @Elfking that it looks so bad you'd almost think it was staged by anti-trans activists. 

Yea the terfs have (certainly not deliberately) have managed to create a bit of an image of them being twee, ineffectual berks with all their dinosauring and tunnok bothering. If I hadn't hadn't heard of this issue, I definitely would have assumed the ninja's were up to no good first
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on May 16, 2022, 08:56:46 AM
Did these ninjas say they were part of some organisation? Or were they pure batmans
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Vroomo on May 16, 2022, 09:36:12 AM
That speaker yesterday - masked, steampunk glasses, an accent wildly swerving between Irish and American.  Telling "its worse than you think" horror stories about schools.
What the fuck was that about?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 16, 2022, 09:40:08 AM
Agreed that dressing up as ninjas just plays right into the 'look at the bad nasty TRAs threatening us poor ickle women' narrative. OK, people don't want to be identified, so not just wear a face mask? Why do you have to act like an extra from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wrec on May 16, 2022, 09:57:06 AM
Quote from: g0m on May 16, 2022, 05:18:48 AMTweet has been deleted

Not surprised after seeing some of the replies calling her a handmaiden, a rape enabler etc.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 16, 2022, 10:11:22 AM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 16, 2022, 08:35:04 AMOne minute she says it was "intimidating", the next it's "unintentionally hilarious", which is it?

Umberto Ecco's defining point of facsism #8:

The enemy is both strong and weak. "By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak."
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JaDanketies on May 16, 2022, 10:29:03 AM
In Manchester I can appreciate how we might want to show we are willing to defend LGBT rights with intimidation and aggression. Spirit of the city innit. We're nice if you're nice. Perhaps the optics are awful. But I really can't imagine mancs protesting terfs or the edl or whoever in any nice way. We're very protective of our LGBT community and the point would've been to show the terfs that we are willing to lamp them. Which is a positive message. You're not in Wiltshire any more, you've come from your posh home to come up here to intimidate our trans friends. They should get a worse response everywhere
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: madhair60 on May 16, 2022, 10:40:43 AM
Nicely-sized little anti-conversion therapy protest in York yesterday. I've got a pic if anyone's interested. I didn't join in, on the clock, but I did walk around and compliment some of the signs etc, haha.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mr_Rich on May 16, 2022, 10:44:12 AM
Quote from: JaDanketies on May 16, 2022, 10:29:03 AMIn Manchester I can appreciate how we might want to show we are willing to defend LGBT rights with intimidation and aggression. Spirit of the city innit. We're nice if you're nice. Perhaps the optics are awful. But I really can't imagine mancs protesting terfs or the edl or whoever in any nice way. We're very protective of our LGBT community and the point would've been to show the terfs that we are willing to lamp them. Which is a positive message. You're not in Wiltshire any more, you've come from your posh home to come up here to intimidate our trans friends. They should get a worse response everywhere

Yeah, I don't disagree with the sentiment at all but framing things in a context of violence is not the right way forward, especially on an issue that's being presented as 'oppressing women'. The fact that's untrue is irrelevant, it looks incredibly poor if you can frame it as silencing women with threats of violence, it doesn't help the case with anyone not already invested in it.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: pigamus on May 16, 2022, 10:53:59 AM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 16, 2022, 09:40:08 AMAgreed that dressing up as ninjas just plays right into the 'look at the bad nasty TRAs threatening us poor ickle women' narrative. OK, people don't want to be identified, so not just wear a face mask? Why do you have to act like an extra from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?

I'm not sure I'd be confident a face mask would be enough. Especially not when the footage gets on YouTube with all these illiberal laws coming in. It's not a fair fight, is it? I think a bit of paranoia on that front is understandable.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mr_Rich on May 16, 2022, 10:58:13 AM
Quote from: pigamus on May 16, 2022, 10:53:59 AMI'm not sure I'd be confident a face mask would be enough. Especially not when the footage gets on YouTube with all these illiberal laws coming in. It's not a fair fight, is it? I think a bit of paranoia on that front is understandable.

You but terrorist chic isn't the answer to that. I guess it's a minor point in the grand scheme of things, it just feels a bit of an own goal to me, but that's just my opinion.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: pigamus on May 16, 2022, 11:03:46 AM
Yeah but if you're disguising your identity to that extent you're probably going to look intimidating whatever you wear, especially if there's a big group of you. Unless it's bright pink I suppose.

Care Bear costumes, that's the answer long term.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 16, 2022, 11:06:09 AM
You know how intimidating those particular outfits and masks must look to neutral people who know absolutely nothing about this. It does nothing to dispel the GC narrative
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 16, 2022, 11:19:21 AM
I suppose superhero costumes may have been a good idea. Not all of them have total face coverings, but enough do. And it goes down well with "the kidz" (you see, I'm with it).
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 16, 2022, 11:29:56 AM
The inevitable Daily Mail coverage: https://archive.ph/Vs04f
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Pink Gregory on May 16, 2022, 11:38:11 AM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 16, 2022, 11:06:09 AMYou know how intimidating those particular outfits and masks must look to neutral people who know absolutely nothing about this. It does nothing to dispel the GC narrative

This is the problem with GC being a largely 'respectable', somewhat middle class movement.  The proponents often already hold somewhat tenured, traditionally respectable positions (columnists, academics, writers) so to the average uninformed person their open bigotry and hatred is incongruous with their actions, which it's why it's advantageous to them to advance their agendas through academia, government, charity etc; and potentially why their demonstrations never seem to amount to much.

It's the equivalent of the be-suited Monday Club or American ultraconservative type.  People defer to the societal conditioning of 'respectability', which is after all why the National Front changed their tactics.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Zetetic on May 16, 2022, 12:03:06 PM
And bits of the American Civil Rights Movement, if you want a more salubrious example. If you can appear extremely respectable and non-threatening whilst still provoking your opponents to visible violence, that's very useful for simplifying the morality to external observers. (Of course, the opponents of the CRM were extremely strongly predisposed to violence, so...)

The other side of looking threatening - if you're going to take that tack then you need to be prepared to follow through.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 16, 2022, 12:06:25 PM
I know I'm bringing the tone down but that video of GL hitting on Holly Lawford-Smith is hilarious
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Zetetic on May 16, 2022, 12:11:50 PM
Manchester Trans Rise Up's advice about staying safe at (a different) protest for ref:
https://mobile.twitter.com/manc_up/status/1513970489206706179
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Vroomo on May 16, 2022, 12:15:58 PM
Good Lad Lycett will probably feel the wraith of Graham imminently:

https://twitter.com/anniemacmanus/status/1526128482283134977?s=20&t=eSIxLzO93FWQV87LS7DxBg
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Hope of Avalon on May 16, 2022, 12:22:04 PM
People are tired of respectability politics because they know it doesn't work.

Stonewall was a riot.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 16, 2022, 12:30:54 PM
Quote from: Hope of Avalon on May 16, 2022, 12:22:04 PMPeople are tired of respectability politics because they know it doesn't work.

Stonewall was a riot.

Stonewall was a riot in response to a police raid, I don't think that's comparable
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Zetetic on May 16, 2022, 12:38:50 PM
Quote from: Hope of Avalon on May 16, 2022, 12:22:04 PMPeople are tired of respectability politics because they know it doesn't work.
Not the people peacefully protesting about the failure to ban conversion therapy, I guess.

(Although I'm more than prepared to believe that this does more harm than good at the timescales of the next decade or so.)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 16, 2022, 12:42:36 PM
William "Nonce" Ferguson is doing his question on twitter and everyone is making fun of him and calling him a cunt

https://twitter.com/SubAetha2/status/1524391672934584321?t=VGixVTg0mOhYIrgumwN3iw&s=19
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 16, 2022, 12:44:22 PM
That's quite the take from him
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: DreadedScotsman on May 16, 2022, 12:44:38 PM
I'm not sure how I feel about the ninja dress code, whilst yes it does play into the transphobes narrative but then it'll be spun that way regardless and this way they avoid being doxxed and harassed. The infamous JK Rowling Ickabog tweet where she went and said the quiet stuff out loud was in reference to an incident where a trans woman was attacked at a protest I think or maybe speakers corner and they defended themselves this was spun as the evil transes attacking a poor defenseless woman, it's a lose lose situation
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 16, 2022, 12:46:16 PM
Quote from: DreadedScotsman on May 16, 2022, 12:44:38 PMI'm not sure how I feel about the ninja dress code, whilst yes it does play into the transphobes narrative but then it'll be spun that way regardless and this way they avoid being doxxed and harassed. The infamous JK Rowling Ickabog tweet where she went and said the quiet stuff out loud was in reference to an incident where a trans woman was attacked at a protest I think or maybe speakers corner and they defended themselves this was spun as the evil transes attacking a poor defenseless woman, it's a lose lose situation

What was the infamous Ickabog tweet?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 16, 2022, 12:47:04 PM
The thing with the EDL is as well, they're violent hooligans. They were born out of football firms, remember. I'm not saying TERFs aren't capable of being violent, they are - or they get male allies to do it for them - but in general they're less likely to be coked off their tits, casually attacking people and smashing up shops. There's the respectability angle as well. The EDL are predominantly working-class men, not middle-class (and often middle-aged) women.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: pigamus on May 16, 2022, 01:03:45 PM
I doubt they'll make that mistake again anyway. You live and learn.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 16, 2022, 01:10:58 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 16, 2022, 12:46:16 PMWhat was the infamous Ickabog tweet?

I think it is this one:
(https://i.imgur.com/6ydlMfU.png)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 16, 2022, 01:12:18 PM
Wow!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Egyptian Feast on May 16, 2022, 01:26:02 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on May 16, 2022, 01:10:58 PMI think it is this one:
(https://i.imgur.com/6ydlMfU.png)

Amazing she got all that backstory from a simple drawing. This is why she's such a successful writer.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 16, 2022, 01:43:24 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 16, 2022, 12:44:22 PMThat's quite the take from him

Don't think you were around back when I was making a lot of posts about this freak but he thinks that this is such a good challenge he calls it The Ferguson Challenge ala Staniland Question. If you say yes he asks to see video evidence. Strange man.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 16, 2022, 01:45:33 PM
Quote from: retsuza on May 16, 2022, 12:42:36 PMWilliam "Nonce" Ferguson is doing his question on twitter and everyone is making fun of him and calling him a cunt

https://twitter.com/SubAetha2/status/1524391672934584321?t=VGixVTg0mOhYIrgumwN3iw&s=19
Oh that's cheered me right up.

"Hello, Cunt Farm? One of them got out again"
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 16, 2022, 01:55:46 PM
Quote from: retsuza on May 16, 2022, 01:43:24 PMDon't think you were around back when I was making a lot of posts about this freak but he thinks that this is such a good challenge he calls it The Ferguson Challenge ala Staniland Question. If you say yes he asks to see video evidence. Strange man.

So regardless of whether you are attracted to and are compatible with a person you are required to marry them to prove something to Ferguson? Or else sleep with them and send him the video evidence? You couldn't make it up
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: petril on May 16, 2022, 02:08:44 PM
tl;dr

I think that makes a lot of sense
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 16, 2022, 02:19:59 PM
I don't know if you were around for this @Ex_GC

(https://i.imgur.com/iwRciEU.jpg)

Then he tried to own it in The Ferguson Challenge

(https://i.imgur.com/vyMJMLu.jpg)

... but she's still 14
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 16, 2022, 02:28:05 PM
I'm speechless
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 16, 2022, 02:31:52 PM
Quote from: phantom_power on May 15, 2022, 06:16:22 PMIsn't chanting "trans women are men" sort of showing up their concern for women's spaces and sport to be the bullshit we all know it is and shows they are just transphobic, which they all claim not to be?

Well, their "concerns" for women's spaces and sports are predicated on the idea that trans women are men. They just don't usually say the quiet part loud.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 16, 2022, 02:32:31 PM
Quote from: DreadedScotsman on May 16, 2022, 12:44:38 PMI'm not sure how I feel about the ninja dress code, whilst yes it does play into the transphobes narrative but then it'll be spun that way regardless and this way they avoid being doxxed and harassed. The infamous JK Rowling Ickabog tweet where she went and said the quiet stuff out loud was in reference to an incident where a trans woman was attacked at a protest I think or maybe speakers corner and they defended themselves this was spun as the evil transes attacking a poor defenseless woman, it's a lose lose situation

That's true enough, and extremely annoying and unfortunate, but it's ultimately about not handing your opponents free wins and easy propaganda.

To echo what you said, the Kathleen Stock protests were described as "a masked figure burning a sign" or some such - this became ridiculous when people saw the photos and realised it was a blue smoke bomb.

As Pink Gregory and Zetetic mentioned, "optics" have been taken extremely seriously by the fash over the years. It was a strategic decision to do away with skinheads and bovver boots and that whole kind of aggressive image.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: machotrouts on May 16, 2022, 02:35:40 PM
Quote from: Mister Six on May 16, 2022, 02:31:52 PMmen.vrheycjustvdobt

ICANN really needs to ease up on these new domains
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 16, 2022, 02:47:20 PM
Bit more on the kerfuffle this weekend in Manchester

https://twitter.com/Chican3ry/status/1526145180944027649
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 16, 2022, 02:51:53 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 16, 2022, 02:28:05 PMI'm speechless


I posted the wrong first image, it's worse than that - this was from his twitter account that got suspended

(https://i.imgur.com/RsuZ0fy.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 16, 2022, 02:53:37 PM
Wow. And it's trans advocates who are always accused of that sort of thing?!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 16, 2022, 03:00:27 PM
WAF is terrifying

https://gettr.com/comment/ckvso93984
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 16, 2022, 03:31:25 PM
Quote from: BennyHedgehog on May 16, 2022, 03:00:27 PMWAF is terrifying

https://gettr.com/comment/ckvso93984


Put this classic on youtube - thanks gc3po

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 16, 2022, 03:37:39 PM
Quote from: retsuza on May 16, 2022, 12:42:36 PMWilliam "Nonce" Ferguson is doing his question on twitter and everyone is making fun of him and calling him a cunt

https://twitter.com/SubAetha2/status/1524391672934584321?t=VGixVTg0mOhYIrgumwN3iw&s=19

I notice he hasn't answered the comment asking if he would have sex with a trans man to prove he thinks they are women
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: DreadedScotsman on May 16, 2022, 03:45:53 PM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 16, 2022, 02:32:31 PMThat's true enough, and extremely annoying and unfortunate, but it's ultimately about not handing your opponents free wins and easy propaganda.

To echo what you said, the Kathleen Stock protests were described as "a masked figure burning a sign" or some such - this became ridiculous when people saw the photos and realised it was a blue smoke bomb.

As Pink Gregory and Zetetic mentioned, "optics" have been taken extremely seriously by the fash over the years. It was a strategic decision to do away with skinheads and bovver boots and that whole kind of aggressive image.

Yeah I know, I think I'm feeling same way about it as I did when those people took a picture outside of JK Rowlings mansion, whilst daft and a bit naive to do I'm not gonna condemn them for it, because like I said it's lose lose regardless.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 16, 2022, 03:49:57 PM
Quote from: phantom_power on May 16, 2022, 03:37:39 PMI notice he hasn't answered the comment asking if he would have sex with a trans man to prove he thinks they are women

I'd like him to prove for us that Ann Widdecombe is a woman using his method.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 16, 2022, 03:50:09 PM
Quote from: retsuza on May 16, 2022, 12:42:36 PMWilliam "Nonce" Ferguson is doing his question on twitter and everyone is making fun of him and calling him a cunt

https://twitter.com/SubAetha2/status/1524391672934584321?t=VGixVTg0mOhYIrgumwN3iw&s=19

He's being torn to shreds in the QTs. I'm sure he still sees it that he 'won'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 16, 2022, 03:50:37 PM
Mr Menno doing a song would drive anyone to violence
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 16, 2022, 03:52:25 PM
Quote from: phantom_power on May 16, 2022, 03:37:39 PMI notice he hasn't answered the comment asking if he would have sex with a trans man to prove he thinks they are women

More fool you because he has explained this:

https://williamaferguson.substack.com/p/why-i-wont-date-a-trans-man?s=r

Is the explanation coherent? Not really no.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 16, 2022, 04:06:00 PM
He honestly sounds like an incel
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: imitationleather on May 16, 2022, 04:32:13 PM
I am 100% convinced William A Ferguson is going to end up in a super-max prison one day.

The guy is scary.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: chip on May 16, 2022, 04:44:22 PM
Quote from: Cold Meat Platter on May 16, 2022, 03:49:57 PMI'd like him to prove for us that Ann Widdecombe is a woman using his method.

Oh I get it, because she's old and fat and disgusting right? Ha ha ha good one.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 16, 2022, 04:46:04 PM
It's because WAF's definition of what he considers to be a woman is someone he wants to sleep with
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Zetetic on May 16, 2022, 05:03:55 PM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 16, 2022, 02:32:31 PMAs Pink Gregory and Zetetic mentioned, "optics" have been taken extremely seriously by the fash over the years.
Just to be absolutely clear - I was talking about MLK and the Children's Crusade, things like that. Not just fascists who took this stuff seriously.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 16, 2022, 05:15:04 PM
Quote from: machotrouts on May 16, 2022, 02:35:40 PMICANN really needs to ease up on these new domains

Haha, cheers, I've fixed that. This is what happens when I post while walking the dog and don't check the results...
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on May 16, 2022, 05:26:10 PM
Why is the girl crawling? Has this William bloke broken her legs
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 16, 2022, 05:28:12 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 16, 2022, 08:35:04 AMOne minute she says it was "intimidating", the next it's "unintentionally hilarious", which is it?
Remember, always simultaneously too weak and too strong.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 16, 2022, 05:29:53 PM
Moley has already done another brilliant satire
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 16, 2022, 05:32:08 PM
Quote from: retsuza on May 16, 2022, 10:11:22 AMUmberto Ecco's defining point of facsism #8:

The enemy is both strong and weak. "By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak."
Dang it. I normally read ahead in the thread too.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 16, 2022, 05:42:15 PM
Quote from: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 16, 2022, 05:28:12 PMRemember, always simultaneously too weak and too strong.

She's not saying they look hilarious, she's saying it's hilarious that they dressed in an intimidating manner and undermined themselves so much.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 16, 2022, 05:44:51 PM
Yeah fair enough but if their actions were supposedly so intimidating and aggressive would it really be hilarious in any way?

Twitter seems to veer between calling them 'aggressive men intimidating women' and bratty kids. They can't decide which
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 16, 2022, 05:49:30 PM
In the context of it being an "own goal", then yeah, if you hate trans people you're gonna find it hilarious to see trans activists doing something so self-defeating and daft, because you're gonna be like "woohoo, this might make more people hate 'em."
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 16, 2022, 06:04:55 PM
This clears it up a bit, the woman being 'attacked' has previous as a trouble maker at these events.

The original video was taken by a trans ally friend of the ninjas who only started filming after she attacked one of them.

Probably would have been best if they never posted the clip tbh.

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 16, 2022, 06:34:20 PM
Wild that WAF writes "Cis Eye For The Queer Guy" while looking like something you'd find discarded at a dogging hotspot*.

Didn't his wife say that she thinks he must secretly want to sleep with a trans woman given how utterly obsessed with them he is, or was that a different Critter?


* See his youtube, rather than his million selfies on instagram.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 16, 2022, 06:38:40 PM
Let me guess, is "cis eye for the queer guy" him tearing trans womens appearance apart
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 16, 2022, 06:53:01 PM
Just went to look for that old video where he looks totally different and saw that he was on a podcast 3 weeks ago


(https://i.imgur.com/JSrHTj6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/dzsKH28.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 16, 2022, 06:56:08 PM
How many inverted commas are needed around "writer", "music producer" and "songwriter"?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: GoblinAhFuckScary on May 16, 2022, 06:58:35 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 16, 2022, 06:53:01 PM(https://i.imgur.com/dzsKH28.jpg)

ballsy move from russell t davies
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 16, 2022, 06:59:33 PM
Isn't he the chap who uses photoshop filters to completely change his face?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 16, 2022, 07:25:20 PM
Bet he is delighted at the new Doctor Who companion.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: maizebasedsnack on May 16, 2022, 07:46:05 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 16, 2022, 06:53:01 PMJust went to look for that old video where he looks totally different and saw that he was on a podcast 3 weeks ago


(https://i.imgur.com/JSrHTj6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/dzsKH28.jpg)


There's using filters and then there's this. I'm actually shocked haha.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mtpromises on May 16, 2022, 07:50:51 PM
BC and company are trying to dox a person who just wore a medical mask to the protests.

I disagree with all the 'bad optics' takes.  No one cares except the TERFS.  The story got nowhere outside the Daily Mail and terf Twitter.

Protesters need to protect themselves first and foremost.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 16, 2022, 07:59:52 PM
Quote from: GoblinAhFuckScary on May 16, 2022, 06:58:35 PMballsy move from russell t davies
Wafros, leader of the Tervoids.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Elfking on May 16, 2022, 08:00:26 PM
It's stupid to turn up in balaclavas and the like. It looks awful, the immediate connotations are with crime and terrorism. They've allowed TERFs to paint themselves as the sensible ones whilst the otherside are dangerous. I don't know who thought it was a good idea but it's absolutely moronic.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: pigamus on May 16, 2022, 08:13:37 PM
Yeah, I'm very pro-trans until they put a balaclava on, that's a red line for me
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Famous Mortimer on May 16, 2022, 08:14:16 PM
If they'd all dressed in suits, the pictures would have been of one of them screaming near a woman. Or just a completely made-up image. There's no right way to dress or behave when the media want to portray you a certain way, and we're doing their work for them by pretending otherwise.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phes on May 16, 2022, 08:17:30 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on May 16, 2022, 07:25:20 PMBet he is delighted at the new Doctor Who companion.

This is the one thing they didn't want to happen.

Can't tell you how happy reading this has made me. Trans woman starring as the companion is pure bigot smackdown 
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 16, 2022, 08:18:34 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 16, 2022, 06:53:01 PMJust went to look for that old video where he looks totally different and saw that he was on a podcast 3 weeks ago

(https://i.imgur.com/dzsKH28.jpg)


"Computer, enhance"

(https://i.imgur.com/BnUATZD.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: canadagoose on May 16, 2022, 08:19:09 PM
The black balaclavas etc. were a bit daft, but I think a lot of us are just resigned to thinking "they hate us anyway, so it doesn't matter how we look". Look at how much they detest Katy Montgomerie, and she's not exactly badly-behaved, is she?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 16, 2022, 08:22:53 PM
Fair. Trans women can't win with these people.

Also, a black Doctor AND a trans companion? Heads will explode.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: damien on May 16, 2022, 08:24:55 PM
SO happy about the Dr Who news, holy shit.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 16, 2022, 08:26:41 PM
BCs just gutted the Daily Mail isn't DMing him for his journalisms

(https://i.imgur.com/63ixXCG.png)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: shoulders on May 16, 2022, 08:30:22 PM
Quote from: retsuza on May 16, 2022, 10:11:22 AMUmberto Ecco's defining point of facsism #8:

The enemy is both strong and weak. "By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak."

Despite the criticism up the page this is ultimately still a pertinent thing to bring up. If JKR thinks the trans rights activists  are unintentionally hilarious then they are clearly not intimidating or a threat, whereas if she had found them intimidating and had genuine cause to hit the 'men attacking women' alarm that quite clearly contains no element of humour at all, let alone hilarity.

What JKR meant was a sort of sociopathic 'Lol, One-Nil' and that's literally all. Either she found it sociopathically amusing or has sincere concern. Looks for all the world like the former. Quelle surprise.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 16, 2022, 08:51:22 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 16, 2022, 06:53:01 PMJust went to look for that old video where he looks totally different and saw that he was on a podcast 3 weeks ago


(https://i.imgur.com/JSrHTj6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/dzsKH28.jpg)


Are ALL of his million selfies filtered and photoshopped? I hadn't even thought about that sad aspect of it.

He looks like Bill Maher with a vaccuum up his ass.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 16, 2022, 09:46:56 PM
Quote from: damien on May 16, 2022, 08:24:55 PMSO happy about the Dr Who news, holy shit.

It's fucking great. All the "silent majority" and "right side of history" shit will be completely blown away by the most famous show on British television (hopefully) proving how accepting most people in the country are of trans people
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 16, 2022, 09:55:46 PM
Who are those other people? Yank terfs?

Why are they having a conversation with a man who is nothing more than a very strange nonce?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on May 16, 2022, 10:22:15 PM
Quote from: jobotic on May 16, 2022, 09:55:46 PMWho are those other people? Yank terfs?

Why are they having a conversation with a man who is nothing more than a very strange nonce?

One things for sure, they all look totally fucking gutted that he is talking in that video. Imagine all the dAtes where your expecting the guy on top, and this 30 year older horrible opinions man shows up
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dazed_and_bemused on May 16, 2022, 10:23:50 PM
Quote from: jobotic on May 16, 2022, 09:55:46 PMWho are those other people? Yank terfs?

Why are they having a conversation with a man who is nothing more than a very strange nonce?

A question they themselves seem to be struggling with, it seems.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 16, 2022, 10:24:02 PM
Quote from: shoulders on May 16, 2022, 08:30:22 PMDespite the criticism up the page this is ultimately still a pertinent thing to bring up. If JKR thinks the trans rights activists  are unintentionally hilarious then they are clearly not intimidating or a threat, whereas if she had found them intimidating and had genuine cause to hit the 'men attacking women' alarm that quite clearly contains no element of humour at all, let alone hilarity.

What JKR meant was a sort of sociopathic 'Lol, One-Nil' and that's literally all. Either she found it sociopathically amusing or has sincere concern. Looks for all the world like the former. Quelle surprise.

That doesn't make sense though. Look at the quotes again:

Quote from: Barry Admin on May 16, 2022, 02:41:08 AMAnd of course, Rowling has jumped on it:

(https://i.postimg.cc/L5cPxd14/IMG-20220516-015337.jpg)

She's not saying they look unintentionally hilarious, she's saying that it's hilarious to think that dressing up like that is a good tactical move to make. This does not preclude them from also looking threatening, because they do, I can say that objectively. And it is unintentionally hilarious in a Four Lions sort of style because it is, as she says, dumb that anyone would think it to be a good idea.

Edit: she's also saying that their actions are intimidating, that's the focus there.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: petril on May 16, 2022, 10:47:10 PM
so does she think Chewbacca's a bear or not then? that's the real question
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: canadagoose on May 16, 2022, 11:12:54 PM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 16, 2022, 10:24:02 PMThat doesn't make sense though. Look at the quotes again:

She's not saying they look unintentionally hilarious, she's saying that it's hilarious to think that dressing up like that is a good tactical move to make. This does not preclude them from also looking threatening, because they do, I can say that objectively. And it is unintentionally hilarious in a Four Lions sort of style because it is, as she says, dumb that anyone would think it to be a good idea.

Edit: she's also saying that their actions are intimidating, that's the focus there.
I mean, of course, she's also saying that these individuals somehow represent the entire trans community, or even the entire pro-trans community, as if we have some sort of say over what other people wear or what they do. It'd be different if the shoe was on the other foot, I suspect, and she'd go all "how DARE you! This is OUTRAGEOUS! UNBELIEVABLE! DISGUSTING!!!" or whatever overreaction is most fashionable amongst GCs now.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 16, 2022, 11:47:40 PM
edit: nah
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: no_offenc on May 17, 2022, 12:00:40 AM
He looks a bit like Philip Hammond
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 17, 2022, 12:16:41 AM
Quote from: phantom_power on May 16, 2022, 09:46:56 PMIt's fucking great. All the "silent majority" and "right side of history" shit will be completely blown away by the most famous show on British television (hopefully) proving how accepting most people in the country are of trans people

This, and Jake Daniels being the first out gay professional footballer in the UK in thirty-two years, with Stonewall getting spoken about positively in the press in terms of the support they're giving him, his family and his club, and it's not going to be a happy evening down on the plantain patch.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 17, 2022, 12:22:55 AM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 16, 2022, 06:53:01 PMJust went to look for that old video where he looks totally different and saw that he was on a podcast 3 weeks ago


(https://i.imgur.com/JSrHTj6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/dzsKH28.jpg)


Wow. He's straight up cat-fishing 🤣
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phes on May 17, 2022, 12:43:50 AM
Willy Filterson
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Buttered Ghost on May 17, 2022, 12:46:09 AM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 16, 2022, 06:53:01 PMJust went to look for that old video where he looks totally different and saw that he was on a podcast 3 weeks ago


(https://i.imgur.com/JSrHTj6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/dzsKH28.jpg)


Oh god I was so distracted by the whole 'photoshop on the selfies' thing I didn't even notice he was in the fucking tardis hahahaha
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 17, 2022, 12:55:46 AM
Quote from: Buttered Ghost on May 17, 2022, 12:46:09 AMOh god I was so distracted by the whole 'photoshop on the selfies' thing I didn't even notice he was on the fucking tardis hahahaha

(https://i.imgur.com/3OSjP4R.png)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 17, 2022, 01:34:42 AM
Quote from: FalknerHinton on May 16, 2022, 06:34:20 PMDidn't his wife say that she thinks he must secretly want to sleep with a trans woman given how utterly obsessed with them he is, or was that a different Critter?

Yeah, and then he added the memorable line which was something like: "well she doesn't know any better, she's Indonesian."
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 17, 2022, 01:58:40 AM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 16, 2022, 06:53:01 PM(https://i.imgur.com/JSrHTj6.jpg)

'As you can see, they were really, really, really, really thrilled to meet me'

(https://i.imgur.com/yTubhsP.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 17, 2022, 03:27:48 AM
Sian getting in on the 'WAF question'

(https://i.imgur.com/73unLYf.png)

EDIT:  Black Pampers is pretty funny, I'll give them that.

EDIT2:  Their next demo is in Bristol.  It's going to end badly for them.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 17, 2022, 05:27:46 AM
Will Glinner go apeshit about Russell T Davies casting a trans girl for his Doctor Who episodes, or do you reckon 6'6", outspoken, give-no-shits BAFTA god Davies intimidates him too much?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 17, 2022, 05:35:40 AM
He prefers to take endless pot shots at Jon Ronson 'because he used to be my friend'.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 17, 2022, 06:13:54 AM
Quote from: Sonny_Jim

EDIT2:  Their next demo is in Bristol.  It's going to end badly for them.
/quote]

I honestly can't think of a more left-wing and LGBTQ+ plus supportive city in the UK
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JaDanketies on May 17, 2022, 07:11:38 AM
I thought that about them coming to Manchester, it's just slightly less provocative than coming to Bristol. I don't see why this should be viewed in a significantly different light than the EDL going to Bradford, even if the terfs skew posher with more women. They know why they picked Bristol and Manchester, we know why they did. The bad optics are that they get away with it.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 17, 2022, 07:23:48 AM
It's an escalation from the 'walking into the gay pub and hassling the bar staff', deliberately going to the places where they'll face the most pushback, as it'll give them great footage.  DM Headline 'LetWomenSpeak?  Womens rights demonstation surrounded by pro-trans hate mob'.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 17, 2022, 07:29:49 AM
Quote from: JaDanketies on May 17, 2022, 07:11:38 AMI thought that about them coming to Manchester, it's just slightly less provocative than coming to Bristol. I don't see why this should be viewed in a significantly different light than the EDL going to Bradford, even if the terfs skew posher with more women. They know why they picked Bristol and Manchester, we know why they did. The bad optics are that they get away with it.

You're right, it really is unfair that they get to provoke people and then play the victim afterwards
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Pimhole on May 17, 2022, 07:34:40 AM
Quote from: phantom_power on May 16, 2022, 09:46:56 PMIt's fucking great. All the "silent majority" and "right side of history" shit will be completely blown away by the most famous show on British television (hopefully) proving how accepting most people in the country are of trans people

When I first read this I was hoping it was Bethany Black. Perhaps she'll also show up in it again in some capacity.

Actually, if we could get Bethany on Taskmaster or Bake Off, it would be game over for trans exclusion.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 17, 2022, 07:43:41 AM
Just listening KJK's video '#letwomenspeak The aftermath'.  Some notes:

Not once in a half hour video does she actually talk about the demonstration.  (She mentions it briefly toward the end)

Spends most of the video begging for money, says they are on a shoestring budget, don't usually ask for money etc

Is willing to fly to America to appear, but someone else has to pay for the ticket and she won't fly economy.  She must be pissing away TERF money on business class flights from Dublin to Manchester, Bristol etc.

When someone pops up in the chat and says maybe we shouldn't align with people like Tucker Carlson, she defends him saying 'he's a very nice man.'

I'm utterly bemused that anyone watching it can't see it for the grift it is.

EDIT: That fucking sign off. 

QuoteYou know why else we're going to win?
(sigh)
Because I
[pause for dramatic effect, but just a tiny bit too long]
Never
[pause again]
Lose.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Jumblegraws on May 17, 2022, 08:25:08 AM
Quote from: Sonny_Jim on May 17, 2022, 05:35:40 AMHe prefers to take endless pot shots at Jon Ronson 'because he used to be my friend'.

After everything Linehan has said and done, his targeting of Ronson still provokes a particular disgust. I'm maybe just falling for the gentle soul way Ronson presents himself, but I think it's also the way Linehan, during their Twitter run-ins, would use time he supposedly shouted down an antisemite in Ronson's defence as leverage. Had "know your place" vibes to it.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 17, 2022, 08:33:27 AM
Quote from: Sonny_Jim on May 17, 2022, 07:43:41 AMEDIT: That fucking sign off. 


Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 17, 2022, 08:38:27 AM
Did anyone see that Posie video where she said her husband wouldn't dare leave her as his life wouldn't be worth living?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 17, 2022, 08:41:06 AM
Twitter was built for people who say 'I never lose'. 

EDIT:  I Never Lose is Gender Critical in a nutshell, isn't it?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Jumblegraws on May 17, 2022, 09:07:11 AM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 17, 2022, 08:33:27 AM
The internet personality best known for that sort of hubris-as-a-gimmick approach is Maddox, and I don't think he's doing terribly well for himself nowadays.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on May 17, 2022, 09:10:00 AM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 17, 2022, 08:33:27 AM

I watched an interview with her on triggernometry once. She was so boring. She barely had the energy to finish most of her sentences and the entire show had no momentum at all.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on May 17, 2022, 09:13:43 AM
Quote from: shoulders on May 16, 2022, 08:30:22 PMDespite the criticism up the page this is ultimately still a pertinent thing to bring up. If JKR thinks the trans rights activists  are unintentionally hilarious then they are clearly not intimidating or a threat, whereas if she had found them intimidating and had genuine cause to hit the 'men attacking women' alarm that quite clearly contains no element of humour at all, let alone hilarity.

I haven't followed the discussion so forgive me if this is wrong but what about Charlie Chaplin making a comedy out of the Nazis? Four Lions? You can find something terrifying and ridiculous / provoking hilarity at the same time
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 17, 2022, 09:21:24 AM
Posie Parker was on Piers Morgan's show yesterday and it was the first time ever I'd seen the host stand up for trans people in an interview with her to be fair to him.

A Morgan interview with the potassinated saviour of women would be a banger I expect.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: shoulders on May 17, 2022, 09:27:32 AM
Quote from: Martin Van Buren Stan on May 17, 2022, 09:13:43 AMI haven't followed the discussion so forgive me if this is wrong but what about Charlie Chaplin making a comedy out of the Nazis? Four Lions? You can find something terrifying and ridiculous / provoking hilarity at the same time

JKR wasn't making a film, she was reacting to an event via a tweet. Not sure I need to explain the distinction.



Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: shoulders on May 17, 2022, 09:32:08 AM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 17, 2022, 09:21:24 AMPosie Parker was on Piers Morgan's show yesterday and it was the first time ever I'd seen the host stand up for trans people in an interview with her to be fair to him.

A Morgan interview with the potassinated saviour of women would be a banger I expect.

Isn't that standard fare? Guest comes on, host presents opposite view for the sake of creating heat/light (sliding scale depending on who either host or guest is).

Moron has historically played both sides on many issues as what he craves more than triumph of right over wrong is attention and fame however it comes to him.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on May 17, 2022, 09:37:08 AM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 17, 2022, 09:21:24 AMPosie Parker was on Piers Morgan's show yesterday and it was the first time ever I'd seen the host stand up for trans people in an interview with her to be fair to him.

A Morgan interview with the potassinated saviour of women would be a banger I expect.

I think because of ofcom he'd be obliged to be "impartial" and put that view across. I saw that guy behind the Titania McGrath character on GB news, he was interviewing an anti trans person and giving them very softball easy to refute pro trans questions for that same reason I assume
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 17, 2022, 09:48:23 AM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 17, 2022, 09:21:24 AMA Morgan interview with the potassinated saviour of women would be a banger I expect.

They're both shouting over each other and at the very same time they both say something that greatly offends the other and they both walk out.
"Graham you've lost your friends, family, career, how is this worth it"
"Fuck you Piers, you're not a hero, you didn't defend JK Rowling"
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 17, 2022, 10:06:57 AM
Quote from: shoulders on May 17, 2022, 09:32:08 AMIsn't that standard fare?

Not on the the stations (GB News/Talk TV) etc that platform the GCs regularly.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 17, 2022, 10:11:59 AM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 17, 2022, 09:21:24 AMPosie Parker was on Piers Morgan's show yesterday and it was the first time ever I'd seen the host stand up for trans people in an interview with her to be fair to him.

A Morgan interview with the potassinated saviour of women would be a banger I expect.

Here it is. A slightly unhelpful spokesperson for the trans community on before Parker but it did make me laugh

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 17, 2022, 10:14:59 AM
I thought Morgan hated trans people?
Quote from: FalknerHinton on May 17, 2022, 12:16:41 AMThis, and Jake Daniels being the first out gay professional footballer in the UK in thirty-two years, with Stonewall getting spoken about positively in the press in terms of the support they're giving him, his family and his club, and it's not going to be a happy evening down on the plantain patch.
To nobody's surprise, Prosecco Stormfront are doing their usual 'but I don't caaaaaare, why does he have to tell people' thing. But then they only give a shit about football when it involves Sky Big 6 teams.

I can't even begin to express how happy I am about Daniels coming out. I hope his team mates have his back, because he's going to need all the support he can get. And if he had a trans boyfriend I bet some bananacunt would go 'ahhhh well you're not gay then are you ahhhh'. I'm amazed Sian even knows what football is.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 17, 2022, 10:46:39 AM
Morgan is a tabloid provocateur. He acts for an audience for money. Sometimes he might coincidentally pick the right side (the pandemic and vaccines) but he's still a total cunt who doesnt believe anything except making money
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 17, 2022, 11:09:33 AM
Here we go

https://dennisnoelkavanagh.substack.com/p/twitter-silencing-gay-men-again?s=r
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 17, 2022, 11:16:58 AM
Exclusive secret footage of Dennis just after he wrote that:

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: damien on May 17, 2022, 11:41:23 AM
His 'Mess..' videos seem to only be getting around 5-6k views this past few weeks. I recall on here there was a graph (from Social Blade?) some months back which showed how badly he was doing..
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Gusty OWindflap on May 17, 2022, 11:51:17 AM
Try to face facts
'Cause you're only a man
(And a man cannot be a woman)

Try to believe
Though the griftin gets rough
That you gotta hang tough to fake it

History repeats itself
Celebs captured it seems
Never doubt, you're in the right
What's that stain there on your jeans?

You're depressed?
Oh wow!
No ones ever gonna see Pope Ted
You're depressed?
'Cause now
You spend your nights alone in a racecar bed
You're depressed?
Jo Row (ling)
Is never ever gonna say your na-a-a-a-ame

Fight 'til you win
'Cause when you're in a pedal bin
You need that strength that you have inside you

Ah you gotta be proud
('Cause you've fuck all else)
When all your comedy pals defy you

Try your best to peak them all
and one day time will tell
when you're the one true Lesbian King
You'll escape this personal hell!

You're depressed?
Oh wow!
No ones ever gonna see Pope Ted
You're depressed?
'Cause now
You're spending every night in a racecar bed
You're depressed?
Jo Row (ling)
Is never ever gonna say your na-a-a-a-ame

INSPIRING GUITAR SOLO
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Pimhole on May 17, 2022, 12:02:04 PM
Fuck off Piers you cunt [skips away 'cross the field]
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 17, 2022, 12:24:05 PM
Quote from: damien on May 17, 2022, 11:41:23 AMHis 'Mess..' videos seem to only be getting around 5-6k views this past few weeks. I recall on here there was a graph (from Social Blade?) some months back which showed how badly he was doing..

He's actually improved the numbers since then, but he's been posting a lot of stolen content/reposts od old videos/non-TMWI content - the Stephen Nolan interview got 26k views for example

(https://i.imgur.com/rLc2n8Q.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: pigamus on May 17, 2022, 12:27:00 PM
Quote from: BennyHedgehog on May 17, 2022, 10:11:59 AMA slightly unhelpful spokesperson for the trans community on before Parker but it did make me laugh

Following on from the slightly unhelpful Manchester ninjas. Is the trans community starting to shoot itself in the foot?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 17, 2022, 12:38:48 PM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 17, 2022, 10:14:59 AMI can't even begin to express how happy I am about Daniels coming out. I hope his team mates have his back, because he's going to need all the support he can get. And if he had a trans boyfriend I bet some bananacunt would go 'ahhhh well you're not gay then are you ahhhh'. I'm amazed Sian even knows what football is.

Yeah I'm so happy for the lad. You and I are both well aware of how big a deal this is for football, even though it's 2022, and it will have taken a lot of bravery for him to do this. From what I've read, Blackpool are being very supportive of him, as are the PFA, the FA and, well pretty much everyone so far. Maybe football is changing after all?

Quote from: BennyHedgehog on May 17, 2022, 11:09:33 AMHere we go

https://dennisnoelkavanagh.substack.com/p/twitter-silencing-gay-men-again?s=r

Dennis still has his shrewd grasp of business takeovers then. "Mr Musk" is absolutely not twitter's "new owner" and a brief glance at the news would suggest he may not be in the near future either. But I guess the whole point isn't to get things right, or be knowledgable about literally the most basic things related to your current issue, but to do some tedious posturing in public to air your grievances and pump up your supporters.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 17, 2022, 12:39:42 PM
Quote from: pigamus on May 17, 2022, 12:27:00 PMFollowing on from the slightly unhelpful Manchester ninjas. Is the trans community starting to shoot itself in the foot?

I'd say that was a lost opportunity rather than harming the cause. I don't think calling Piers Morgan a cunt is going to alienate many people. Ash Sakar's popular career launched on the basis of calling Piers an idiot on live TV
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: pigamus on May 17, 2022, 12:41:24 PM
Yes I agree, I bet even JK Rowling JK Rowling would find it hard to hate someone calling Piers a cunt
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: madhair60 on May 17, 2022, 12:46:52 PM
Shut UP!

Fuck OFF!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 17, 2022, 01:05:45 PM
Piers Morgan is your dad's most annoying friend, who doesn't have any opinions of his own and just says what will currently get him bullied the least by all the other lads.

His favourite words are 'woke' and 'virtue-signaling' and the more you hear about him the more you realise it's because he absolute hates all positive social change that he doesn't understand and that he can't imagine someone doing something good unless its a pathetic attempt to get people to like you.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: pigamus on May 17, 2022, 01:28:38 PM
And there's so fucking many of the bastards. They're practically a race!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: petril on May 17, 2022, 02:16:24 PM
Quote from: pigamus on May 17, 2022, 01:28:38 PMAnd there's so fucking many of the bastards. They're practically a race!

they only race they are is the 2005 US Grand Prix (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_United_States_Grand_Prix)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mippy on May 17, 2022, 02:32:40 PM
I do wish the comedy pronouns "joke" would fuck off. I'm sure there are people who just think of it as riffing on something (like Jon Holmes, who used to have them) but when you get terfs having "fuck/off" or "i/am/awoman" it feels pretty snide. 'My pronouns are demonstrative/possessive' oh ho ho ho thanks Colin Hunt. Also, it brings out my inner pedant.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 17, 2022, 02:39:18 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 17, 2022, 08:33:27 AM

Nothing Patrick Bateman about that at all
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: shoulders on May 17, 2022, 02:39:58 PM
Quote from: retsuza on May 17, 2022, 01:05:45 PMPiers Morgan is your dad's most annoying friend, who doesn't have any opinions of his own and just says what will currently get him bullied the least by all the other lads.

His favourite words are 'woke' and 'virtue-signaling' and the more you hear about him the more you realise it's because he absolute hates all positive social change that he doesn't understand and that he can't imagine someone doing something good unless its a pathetic attempt to get people to like you.

He is the bully, so don't agree with the analogy in the first paragraph.

However the final sentence above is perceptive, his bloated rancidness makes him incapable of viewing altruism through any prism other than self-advancement.

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Jumblegraws on May 17, 2022, 02:44:54 PM
Quote from: mippy on May 17, 2022, 02:32:40 PMI do wish the comedy pronouns "joke" would fuck off. I'm sure there are people who just think of it as riffing on something (like Jon Holmes, who used to have them) but when you get terfs having "fuck/off" or "i/am/awoman" it feels pretty snide. 'My pronouns are demonstrative/possessive' oh ho ho ho thanks Colin Hunt. Also, it brings out my inner pedant.
You sort of imply this, but I'm fairly certain Jon Holmes got rid of his when he realised it was a bananacunt stock-in-trade
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mippy on May 17, 2022, 03:09:36 PM
That's what I meant! I think some don't realise it's bananacuntery, but when I see it I can't help but feel a little disappointed.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: canadagoose on May 17, 2022, 03:10:53 PM
Quote from: mippy on May 17, 2022, 02:32:40 PMI do wish the comedy pronouns "joke" would fuck off. I'm sure there are people who just think of it as riffing on something (like Jon Holmes, who used to have them) but when you get terfs having "fuck/off" or "i/am/awoman" it feels pretty snide. 'My pronouns are demonstrative/possessive' oh ho ho ho thanks Colin Hunt. Also, it brings out my inner pedant.
It's a good sign of a cunt on Twitter, tbh. "My pronouns are sex-based just like my oppression" Just climb into a shredder already.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: imitationleather on May 17, 2022, 03:53:39 PM
I thought the trans guest on that Piers video did quite well, to be honest. Particularly in raising loads of stuff about what a right-wing conspiracy nutjob Posie Parker is. Something that never ever gets brought up on her media appearances where she's always presented as a cuddly cool aunt-type figure.

Let's face it. It's the Piers Morgan show on Talk TV. Absolutely no one watching that is going to be convinced by or want to hear any pro-trans arguments. Just use your opportunity to tell him he's a cunt and enjoy it.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: NeaX on May 17, 2022, 04:35:04 PM
Quote from: imitationleather on May 17, 2022, 03:53:39 PMLet's face it. It's the Piers Morgan show on Talk TV. Absolutely no one watching that
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dog Botherer on May 17, 2022, 04:41:53 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/s29j5S1w/A69-AF580-CC07-4-A45-A515-C554-C88626-EE.jpg)

Ol'Willie have a tough time on the twitters
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 17, 2022, 04:44:31 PM
The better friends stage of your life.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 17, 2022, 04:45:18 PM
It's not consensual if it's with a 14 year old. That's the whole point
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 17, 2022, 04:48:02 PM
Quote from: Dog Botherer on May 17, 2022, 04:41:53 PM(https://i.postimg.cc/s29j5S1w/A69-AF580-CC07-4-A45-A515-C554-C88626-EE.jpg)

WAF is over four times older than a fourteen year old girl
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 17, 2022, 04:48:37 PM
'I would rather commit a crime that has a considerable prison sentence as punishment than be someone I have literally made up.'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 17, 2022, 04:50:34 PM
Quote from: Cold Meat Platter on May 17, 2022, 04:48:37 PM'I would rather commit a crime that has a considerable prison sentence as punishment than be someone I have literally made up.'

He would rather be a rapist than a rape apologist. Arrest this man.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dog Botherer on May 17, 2022, 04:51:42 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 17, 2022, 04:45:18 PMIt's not consensual if it's with a 14 year old. That's the whole point

don't worry! he's spent the last 3 hours exhaustively explaining to every single person who replies to him that it's actually legal and fine because in California (where Noncey Ferguson resides) it is in fact legal to rape a kid if you marry her! so no problem at all!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 17, 2022, 04:53:39 PM
Hey Graham, the penny not even beginning to start to teeter even slightly regarding the kind of people you associate with?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: king_tubby on May 17, 2022, 04:54:17 PM
I saw this morning he'd also done the old 'it's not technically paedophilia because she is post-pubescent' line.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dog Botherer on May 17, 2022, 04:55:21 PM
Quote from: Cold Meat Platter on May 17, 2022, 04:53:39 PMHey Graham, the penny not even beginning to start to teeter even slightly regarding the kind of people you associate with?

i did notice that Ms Penisland has been happily interacting with FergusNonce during his statutory rape related meltdown.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 17, 2022, 04:55:35 PM
I looked at his Twitter. 0/10, would not recommend. He said one could marry a toddler as long as they were given approval from parents
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 17, 2022, 04:59:00 PM
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: QDRPHNC on May 17, 2022, 05:03:07 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 17, 2022, 04:59:00 PM

I can't deal with the cringe of watching this. Can someone summarize? It would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JaDanketies on May 17, 2022, 05:03:38 PM
Methinks WAF is gonna struggle to become the thought leader he thinks he is
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dog Botherer on May 17, 2022, 05:10:02 PM
Quote from: JaDanketies on May 17, 2022, 05:03:38 PMMethinks WAF is gonna struggle to become the thought leader he thinks he is

can't deny he is enunciating thoughts that others would be afraid to
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 17, 2022, 05:11:00 PM
Quote from: Dog Botherer on May 17, 2022, 04:41:53 PM(https://i.postimg.cc/s29j5S1w/A69-AF580-CC07-4-A45-A515-C554-C88626-EE.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZXGghJm.jpg)

53 years old he is.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: QDRPHNC on May 17, 2022, 05:13:44 PM
Just read the WAF twitter thread that tweet above is from. He's very confused, isn't he?

WAF - If you like trans women so much then have sex with one.
If you did have sex with one you wouldn't know.
WAF - I can always tell.
Here is a picture of a trans woman.
WAF - That is obviously a woman.
That is a trans woman.
WAF - Passing is another word for deception.
You said you could always tell.
WAF - Yes, I did say that.
And you think that's a woman.
WAF - Now I know it's not, no. Thank you for proving my point, which is that TRAs are liars.
WAF (thinks) - Checkmate.

WAF - I would rather have consensual sex with a 14 year old than a TRA.
That wouldn't be consensual by definition.
WAF - Not if we're married.
That's still paedophilia.
WAF - Yes, legalized paedophilia. Exactly what you TRAs want.
WAF (thinks) - Checkmate.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mr. logic on May 17, 2022, 05:14:44 PM
Quote from: QDRPHNC on May 17, 2022, 05:03:07 PMI can't deal with the cringe of watching this. Can someone summarize? It would be appreciated.

The Ferguson challenge: Men who defend trans women should have sex with one, and they're not allowed to pick which.

That's what it genuinely is.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Elfking on May 17, 2022, 05:17:25 PM
Quote from: Sonny_Jim on May 17, 2022, 07:23:48 AMIt's an escalation from the 'walking into the gay pub and hassling the bar staff', deliberately going to the places where they'll face the most pushback, as it'll give them great footage.  DM Headline 'LetWomenSpeak?  Womens rights demonstation surrounded by pro-trans hate mob'.


I wonder if they'll ever realise these tactics are the same that groups like The Westboro Baptist Church and the BUF adopted.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: QDRPHNC on May 17, 2022, 05:17:37 PM
Quote from: mr. logic on May 17, 2022, 05:14:44 PMThe Ferguson challenge: Men who defend trans women should have sex with one, and they're not allowed to pick which.

That's what it genuinely is.

How did it go over with the group?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: imitationleather on May 17, 2022, 05:28:02 PM
I thought it was supposed to be the LGBT supporters who were trying to legitimise paedophilia?

Someone send WAF the memo!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dog Botherer on May 17, 2022, 05:29:57 PM
i think the main problems with Ferg are that one(1): his brain is largely made out of poo and two(2): he is a massive fucking cunt
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: QDRPHNC on May 17, 2022, 05:33:25 PM
Well they do say that psychopaths take more selfies, so based on William's Instagram I'd guess he owns a startling amount of human skin.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 17, 2022, 05:47:31 PM
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: NeaX on May 17, 2022, 05:52:18 PM
Imagine thinking the Penisland question was so good that you had to have your own version, somehow managing to come up with something 1000 times worse but still wanting your name attached to it
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: canadagoose on May 17, 2022, 05:54:32 PM
Does anyone else keep thinking of WAF as "Wet Ass Ferguson"?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 17, 2022, 06:11:35 PM
Quote from: QDRPHNC on May 17, 2022, 05:33:25 PMWell they do say that psychopaths take more selfies, so based on William's Instagram I'd guess he owns a startling amount of human skin.

Which he apparently models in his selfies.

(Was this your joke? I'm sorry if I've just restated it in slightly different words, I miss these things sometimes!)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 17, 2022, 06:12:58 PM
Quote from: shoulders on May 17, 2022, 09:27:32 AMJKR wasn't making a film, she was reacting to an event via a tweet. Not sure I need to explain the distinction.

Yes, go ahead and explain the distinction please, as Four Lions and The Great Dictator both draw on real world events/people, and the promotion for Four Lions had CM using many real examples. So I'd be interested
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mippy on May 17, 2022, 06:25:43 PM
I can't get over the profile pic vs real life, frankly.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JaDanketies on May 17, 2022, 06:27:52 PM
Quote from: canadagoose on May 17, 2022, 05:54:32 PMDoes anyone else keep thinking of WAF as "Wet Ass Ferguson"?

Wet and Messy Ferguson
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 17, 2022, 06:39:57 PM
Again why are they engaging with WAF?

Whatever side of anything you're on why would you take part in a noncecast?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 17, 2022, 06:46:57 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 17, 2022, 04:59:00 PM


😂 What the actual fuck. Ohh I can't wait to watch the whole thing. He's a character inne eh?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: QDRPHNC on May 17, 2022, 06:48:49 PM
Quote from: FalknerHinton on May 17, 2022, 06:11:35 PMWhich he apparently models in his selfies.

(Was this your joke? I'm sorry if I've just restated it in slightly different words, I miss these things sometimes!)

Ha, no I was just thinking he had it in bags.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 17, 2022, 06:51:02 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 17, 2022, 05:11:00 PM(https://i.imgur.com/ZXGghJm.jpg)

53 years old he is.


☠️ Omg I really needed a laugh today, thanks so much. He's gotta be someone doing a bit 😂 his mind is addled, it's hilarious.

Edit:



Quote from: Better Midlands on May 17, 2022, 05:47:31 PM


Best one yet, fucking laughed so hard I had a coughing fit. Deborah can barely contain herself.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 17, 2022, 06:57:05 PM
So he'd either rape her or murder her, got it.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on May 17, 2022, 07:08:10 PM
Quote from: canadagoose on May 17, 2022, 05:54:32 PMDoes anyone else keep thinking of WAF as "Wet Ass Ferguson"?

yes sadly
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on May 17, 2022, 07:10:37 PM
dare i go listen to his song?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: QDRPHNC on May 17, 2022, 07:11:09 PM
Quote from: Dr Rock on May 17, 2022, 06:57:05 PMSo he'd either rape her or murder her, got it.

Yes, telling her to get out of his bed and go home isn't an option that's occurred to him, it seems.

Or maybe the point that William is making that he is a Real Man, and has only two speeds - fuck, and kill.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ferris on May 17, 2022, 07:11:18 PM
Quote from: Dr Rock on May 17, 2022, 06:57:05 PMSo he'd either rape her or murder her, got it.

Well not just that person - I believe "Ferguson's Dyad" applies to anyone in his home. Must throw one hell of a dinner party.

Definitely the sort of person I'd want to be closely associated with, anyway. Better friends stage of your life and all that.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wrec on May 17, 2022, 07:23:53 PM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 17, 2022, 06:51:02 PM☠️ Omg I really needed a laugh today, thanks so much. He's gotta be someone doing a bit 😂 his mind is addled, it's hilarious.

Edit:



Best one yet, fucking laughed so hard I had a coughing fit. Deborah can barely contain herself.

Rough but generous estimate of proceeds based on Spotify and YouTube plays: $12.00 (and probably way less than that). Not that his delusion of stardom is anywhere near the most alarming thing about the guy.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on May 17, 2022, 07:29:02 PM
heres a question for you right

so, im a rapist


um, so whats the question

that is the question
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: RicoMNKN on May 17, 2022, 07:35:52 PM
I just realised that he's the guest on that podcast.  I'd assumed it was his podcast.

The person who organised it will have fallen for his deluded bollocks and told the others that they had a pop star guest... and they got that weirdo instead.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: pigamus on May 17, 2022, 07:48:13 PM
Quote from: PlanktonSideburns on May 17, 2022, 07:29:02 PM heres a question for you right

so, im a rapist


um, so whats the question

that is the question

Olivier did go off quite badly towards the end
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wrec on May 17, 2022, 08:29:53 PM
Quote from: RicoMNKN on May 17, 2022, 07:35:52 PMI just realised that he's the guest on that podcast.  I'd assumed it was his podcast.

Yeah what's the deal with that podcast? Are they supposed to be bipartisan terfs or something? I saw one of them said they followed WAF on Twitter, so there's no excuse for having the creepy fucker on.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: TommyTurnips on May 17, 2022, 09:33:54 PM
So to fuck or to kill, that is the question? That's how cavemen think. Also, he proposes that you have to have sex with a trans person but then adds that you don't get to pick. I guess it really is about looks for him, nothing about personality at all? This guy just sees a woman and thinks trans? No. Hot? yes. Fuck or kill? Maybe? Fourteen years old? Ah who cares.

A deeply shallow and disturbing individual.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 17, 2022, 09:45:30 PM
Quote from: QDRPHNC on May 17, 2022, 06:48:49 PMHa, no I was just thinking he had it in bags.

Ah I see!

Ok, well to continue to flog this particular dead horse, I reckon that the reason he looks so different in his videos is that in his selfies he like to wear the stitched together skin of his victims, which at other times he keeps in bags.

Hi Sian 👋
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 17, 2022, 09:58:34 PM
Yeah actually seeing as you're here Sian, how do you square the constant denial of Graham's obvious sockpuppets on Twitter with the whole "Thou shalt not bear false witness..." stuff? Seems like hypocrisy (always the worst part) to me.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 17, 2022, 09:59:09 PM
Quote from: QDRPHNC on May 17, 2022, 05:33:25 PMWell they do say that psychopaths take more selfies, so based on William's Instagram I'd guess he owns a startling amount of human skin.

I'd say that based on his unedited neck.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 17, 2022, 10:04:10 PM
Fucking roflmao

That's from a year ago apparently.

(https://i.imgur.com/p1GDrGw.png)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 17, 2022, 10:08:40 PM
Mothers, lock up your 14 year olds!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 17, 2022, 10:15:29 PM
I was looking up his music to see how atrocious it was when I found that. It's pretty fucking atrocious.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 17, 2022, 10:21:55 PM
Do you reckon he ever tries the feminising filters on his apps, then goes and whacks his bollocks with a meat tenderiser as punishment?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 17, 2022, 10:24:01 PM
Quote from: Cold Meat Platter on May 17, 2022, 10:04:10 PMFucking roflmao

That's from a year ago apparently.

(https://i.imgur.com/p1GDrGw.png)

The evil, poor man's Keanu Reeves?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mtpromises on May 17, 2022, 10:24:29 PM
Karen Davis got a week long YouTube ban for one of her Buck Angel videos.  As far as I've seen, her content is fairly similar to The Mess.  It'd be nice to know exactly what crossed the line.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 17, 2022, 10:25:48 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on May 17, 2022, 10:24:01 PMThe evil, poor man's Keanu Reeves?

John Wick 4: Parabellend
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: TommyTurnips on May 17, 2022, 10:49:16 PM
Remember when ol' Waffy Fergo was bragging about how he'd had sex with lesbians, and twitter was like 'nah mate, if this is true, then those women weren't lesbians.'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 17, 2022, 11:42:26 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/xYcZAzi.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: maizebasedsnack on May 18, 2022, 12:05:54 AM
Quote from: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 17, 2022, 11:42:26 PM(https://i.imgur.com/xYcZAzi.jpg)

He's no Mark Kermode.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 18, 2022, 12:06:29 AM
Two things.  Of course Graham Linehan would watch a film like Everything Everywhere All At Once and decide its a product of "porn culture" based on an absurd, surreal joke that illustrates the pretty far out plot, to put it lightly...

Secondly, (film spoiler)
Spoiler alert
isn't 1 hour 40 minutes of the 2 hour 20 minute long film roughly when the fake credits sequence comes up?

Does that mean he sat there fuming at the dildos, saw a credits sequence and immediately bolted for the door to let everyone know how appalled he was by a film he clearly didn't fucking understand?
[close]
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mippy on May 18, 2022, 12:10:21 AM
PORN CULTURE WANKFEST
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 18, 2022, 12:22:19 AM
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Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 18, 2022, 12:33:27 AM
Quote from: TommyTurnips on May 17, 2022, 09:33:54 PMSo to fuck or to kill, that is the question? That's how cavemen think. Also, he proposes that you have to have sex with a trans person but then adds that you don't get to pick. I guess it really is about looks for him, nothing about personality at all? This guy just sees a woman and thinks trans? No. Hot? yes. Fuck or kill? Maybe? Fourteen years old? Ah who cares.

A deeply shallow and disturbing individual.

The thing is that "would you sleep with a trans woman though eh would you?" isn't even an original question. It's what every fucking laddish dickbag has said for ages, and I just don't get why a woman is only valid to these fuckwits unless they want to shag them.

This bloke is desperate to be relevant, so is passing if off with his name attached as if he's just thought of it. While also pretending to be the new Carl Douglas or something.

He's added the "you don't get to choose" stuff, but as you say, that just reinforces his own shallow and idiotic nature, and shows how keen he is to move the goalposts in order to make some kind of dickbrained point.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 18, 2022, 12:40:15 AM
Like a lot of the hetero male hangers-on in this '''''movement''''' he absolutely reeks of white-knighting to try and trick and therefore pull vulnerable women.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 18, 2022, 01:15:51 AM
Joke's on him, I'm bi. It's not an issue. Though seeing people purely in terms of whether they're fuckable or not is pretty gruesome.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Guppy on May 18, 2022, 02:43:37 AM
Quote from: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 18, 2022, 12:06:29 AMimmediately bolted for the door to let everyone know how appalled he was by a film he clearly didn't fucking understand?
It must be torture for him to sit through a whole film in a cinema. At least when he's at bigot rallies he can whip his phone out every two minutes to check Twitter.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 18, 2022, 04:02:36 AM
Uhoh

(https://i.imgur.com/14Qrask.jpg)

If I were a 14-year-old living in SoCal and I didn't want to be fucked and/or killed by poundshop Neo I wouldn't be going out of the house for a while.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: maizebasedsnack on May 18, 2022, 08:14:17 AM
Quote from: BennyHedgehog on May 18, 2022, 04:02:36 AMUhoh

(https://i.imgur.com/14Qrask.jpg)

If I were a 14-year-old living in SoCal and I didn't want to be fucked and/or killed by poundshop Neo I wouldn't be going out of the house for a while.

SOMEONE PAGE ELON THIS IS CLEARLY A MISTAKE!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 18, 2022, 08:47:55 AM
Quote from: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 17, 2022, 11:42:26 PM(https://i.imgur.com/xYcZAzi.jpg)

In a way, this is a better advert for why kids should stay away from Twitter more so than all the screaming about beards and grooming. "Sad man so Twitter addicted he can't enjoy a movie."

"Don't want to turn out like mean ol' uncle Graham, little Billy?"

"NO! Please. I don't want to feel angry about rainbows and I want to enjoy movies!"

"Well, you know what you gotta do."

"Stay off the wicked bird site, sir?"

"THAAAAAT'S right, now help your mother with the dishes."

"Piss off, nonce!"

"*GASP* IT'S TOO LATE!!!!!"
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Vroomo on May 18, 2022, 09:08:51 AM
Quote from: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 17, 2022, 11:42:26 PM(https://i.imgur.com/xYcZAzi.jpg)

In the early days of twitter The Independent used to have a round-up of notable users best tweets from the day before & (big fish in a small pond) @glinner was always in there - making cracks at current events, tipping US TV shows, highlighting good causes, etc.

Fast forward a decade and now he's hiding behind a locked account slagging off a movie that pretty much every one else says is great.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 18, 2022, 09:17:59 AM
Could he get any more fucking boomer.

Narrow world view = check
Fear/mistrust/hatred of anything different = check
Technology might as well be alien artefacts = check
And now dislikes these "modern" films they have = check
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 18, 2022, 09:19:50 AM
I'm not clever enough to think of something catchy but please can self-satisfied porn culture wankfest make it into a thread title in some way 🤣
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 18, 2022, 09:26:32 AM
The "would you sleep with a trans woman, you don't get to choose which one" is like schoolboy stuff, or Herc from The Wire, or Gareth from The Office.

I wouldn't sleep with anyone if I don't get to choose, and although I'm sure it doesn't bother Wet Ass, I'd also like them to have chosen me.

Chosen. Fucking nonce.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 18, 2022, 09:41:42 AM
Quote from: jobotic on May 18, 2022, 09:26:32 AMThe "would you sleep with a trans woman, you don't get to choose which one" is like schoolboy stuff, or Herc from The Wire, or Gareth from The Office.

It very much is playground level shit, same as with Staniland's question.

"Are you a bummer tied to a tree?" being posed as a genuine question by 50-year-old bullies. Pathetic.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 18, 2022, 09:47:22 AM
Been meaning to see Everything Everywhere all at Once and now that I know BC hates it I am even more excited to watch it.

He really is in his better brain stage of life. Where he can't even enjoy anything without seeing it through the lens of his hate boner. Can you imagine him trying to sit down and watch something that happened to have a trans actor or character in it? He probably can't even see any Matrix film without shitting himself over Lana and Lilly Wachowski
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Bobloblawslawbomb on May 18, 2022, 09:48:05 AM
https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1526669272654745602?s=20

He's a good lad really. Might not agree with him on everything, but to be a constant lightning rod for these fucking freaks and not back down is pretty admirable.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 18, 2022, 09:50:31 AM
Quote from: retsuza on May 18, 2022, 09:47:22 AMBeen meaning to see Everything Everywhere all at Once and now that I know BC hates it I am even more excited to watch it.

He really is in his better brain stage of life. Where he can't even enjoy anything without seeing it through the lens of his hate boner. Can you imagine him trying to sit down and watch something that happened to have a trans actor or character in it? He probably can't even see any Matrix film without shitting himself over Lana and Lilly Wachowski

We don't have to imagine. He was unable to control his fury at a trans woman appearing in the Queens Gambit
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 18, 2022, 09:56:41 AM
A dildo joke? Were they pointy dildos?

Also it's over two hours. Did he see the right film?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: DreadedScotsman on May 18, 2022, 09:59:14 AM
Quote from: The Guppy on May 18, 2022, 02:43:37 AMIt must be torture for him to sit through a whole film in a cinema. At least when he's at bigot rallies he can whip his phone out every two minutes to check Twitter.

There's no way he watched at the cinema it was released on vod in America this week so he'll have pirated it and sat at home leg twitching away, ready to pause it and scream about not defending JK Rowling
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: damien on May 18, 2022, 10:08:32 AM
It's two hours and twenty minutes! I wonder if he's seen a torrent of an edited-for-Asian-airlines version by mistake.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 18, 2022, 10:08:47 AM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 18, 2022, 09:50:31 AMWe don't have to imagine. He was unable to control his fury at a trans woman appearing in the Queens Gambit

Hey, what now? This is some glinnerology I seem to have missed
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 18, 2022, 10:11:10 AM
Quote from: idunnosomename on May 18, 2022, 09:56:41 AMA dildo joke? Were they pointy dildos?

Also it's over two hours. Did he see the right film?

He's mixed up 140 minutes with 1hr, 40 minutes.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Thomas on May 18, 2022, 10:11:20 AM
Father Ted's Lovely Girl Competition and The IT Crowd's gay musical are horrifying examples of a porn-obsessed wankfest culture, substituting disgusting references to sex for charm.

Even worse, in several episodes of The IT Crowd, Jen wears lipstick and high heels - someone's been watching too much bukkake.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 18, 2022, 10:15:05 AM
Quote from: Dr Rock on May 18, 2022, 10:11:10 AMHe's mixed up 140 minutes with 1hr, 40 minutes.
stonewall have captured the hour and made it 60 minutes?!?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 18, 2022, 10:16:48 AM
Good to see his bafflement with newfangled tech now includes "clocks."
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 18, 2022, 10:22:31 AM
Quote from: BennyHedgehog on May 18, 2022, 10:08:47 AMHey, what now? This is some glinnerology I seem to have missed

Yep it was in one of the Mess shows around the time the Queen's Gambit came out. The sight of a trans woman made him so agitated and drove him up the walls. He then went on a rant "if a trans woman can play a woman why can't Scarlett Johannson play a trans woman". By the by I'm pretty sure SJ was to play a trans man, not woman 
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 18, 2022, 10:23:37 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/9uFupvQ.jpg)

Not the 200+ replies and QTs calling him a nonce then.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: chip on May 18, 2022, 10:41:19 AM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 18, 2022, 01:15:51 AMJoke's on him, I'm bi. It's not an issue.

I mean so am I, but despite that, if I'm honest, I know I just don't feel attraction towards that concept of sexual incongruity - which I think is important to remember as an also entirely valid preference.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 18, 2022, 10:57:03 AM
I'm going to see Everything, Everywhere All at Once now. Graham's final endorsement was the final spur.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 18, 2022, 11:02:18 AM
Quote from: jobotic on May 18, 2022, 09:26:32 AMThe "would you sleep with a trans woman, you don't get to choose which one" is like schoolboy stuff, or Herc from The Wire, or Gareth from The Office.

That's why I find this so funny:

Quote from: Better Midlands on May 17, 2022, 05:11:00 PM(https://i.imgur.com/ZXGghJm.jpg)

53 years old he is.

I don't even wanna see the rest of the discussion or what brought it to there, it's just wild when it's taken out of context like that. Absolutely for sure like Gareth from The Office, but then with the Jez-style delusion of having a one hit wonder. All while sitting in a fucking green screen tardis. Lmaaaoo.

The fact that he got so incredibly laddish and explicit in front of those women on that podcast too, ohh god...
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 18, 2022, 11:05:03 AM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 18, 2022, 11:02:18 AMThe fact that he got so incredibly laddish and explicit in front of those women on that podcast too, ohh god...

Have you watched the whole thing yet Barry? There's some proper awkward moments, especially if you watch the two women in the top corners reactions.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 18, 2022, 11:11:19 AM
No I haven't had a chance, I'll try and so that today for sure :-D
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: boki on May 18, 2022, 11:14:30 AM
Quote from: mippy on May 18, 2022, 12:10:21 AMPORN CULTURE WANKFEST
Oooh, who's on the bill this year?  Have they sorted out the toilet issues from last time?

Regarding WAF, I think the major contribution by GC men to the cause is that they readily demonstrate how dangerous the maley men with their PENISes are.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 18, 2022, 11:19:02 AM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 18, 2022, 11:02:18 AMthe Jez-style delusion of having a one hit wonder

lol and he was even kicked from his own band too.

(https://images.entertainment.ie/storage/images_content/rectangle/620x372/aliens-ripley-sigourney-weaver-in-powerloader20163231313705.png?w=1280&h=768&q=low)

Listen, Wez. We let you ask your little challenge, yeah? But you've gone too far with this nonce stuff. You're out of the band
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 18, 2022, 11:31:58 AM
FREE THE PEDOS
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 18, 2022, 11:37:06 AM
Quote from: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 18, 2022, 12:06:29 AMTwo things.  Of course Graham Linehan would watch a film like Everything Everywhere All At Once and decide its a product of "porn culture" based on an absurd, surreal joke that illustrates the pretty far out plot, to put it lightly...

Secondly, (film spoiler)
Spoiler alert
isn't 1 hour 40 minutes of the 2 hour 20 minute long film roughly when the fake credits sequence comes up?

Does that mean he sat there fuming at the dildos, saw a credits sequence and immediately bolted for the door to let everyone know how appalled he was by a film he clearly didn't fucking understand?
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Yep. I don't believe that he mixed up 1 hour 40 with 140 minutes.
Spoiler alert
He saw the fake end credits and just walked out. The fake credits go on for enough time for somebody to walk out and be out the door before the reveal.
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Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 18, 2022, 11:53:37 AM
Oh man thats even funnier. His mind's so broken hes practically gone senile.

His raging at Owen Jones for simply questioning the veracity of a story in a Murdoch rag is classic bananabrain
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 18, 2022, 11:56:34 AM
Quote from: idunnosomename on May 18, 2022, 11:53:37 AMOh man thats even funnier. His mind's so broken hes practically gone senile.

His raging at Owen Jones for simply questioning the veracity of a story in a Murdoch rag is classic bananabrain

Do you have a screenshot to him raging at Jones? I've quit Twitter cold turkey and I could use a good giggle.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 18, 2022, 11:57:22 AM
It's his latest shitstack post
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 18, 2022, 12:01:50 PM
Its on the bananablog

QuoteNot content with bullying his female colleagues, Owen Jones has moved on to schoolgirls. The Times ran with this shocking story today, that has surely peaked anyone who happened upon it. A young girl resisted the gender woo emanating from a visting misogynist member of the House of Lords at her (Stonewall-affiliated) school and was in turn surrounded by 60 schoolmates who "shouted, screamed and spat at her". The traumatised girl has been forced to leave school.

"Not nearly good enough!" says the Goebbels of LGBT Inc.

Traumatised she may be, but Owen feels the young woman requires a national platform on which to be shamed and harangued out of her rights. Private Eye has had stories in two consecutive issues about Jones bullying women and Guardian staffers having to do emergency sessions with crisis hippies/support dogs. Not to diminish what women like Suzanne Moore have gone through thanks to him, but this latest wheeze is on another level. Attempting to enable a group of bullies to reconvene and resume their activities on a wider stage is so sadistic it feels like something from a Neil LaBute play.

Debbie Hayton nailed it years ago when he described men like Jones as "the bullies at school even the other bullies hated, the bullies who bully girls." Jones seems to get more exquisite pleasure from bullying women than he does editing Wikipedia entries on whether Jewish people are a race or an ethicity. But even so, perhaps this should be it, what do you think, Owen? Bullying lone schoolgirls is so low, I don't think you can beat it. You've done enough. We know who you are. That's enough, now.

Nice stab at the whole anti-Semitism accusations there but I think race vs ethnicity isn't really it chief? Ethnicity is a better word than race for the shared culture of people who share ancestry. Race has the problems of biological essentialism of well, the sort of thing your lot obsess over.

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 18, 2022, 12:02:04 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 18, 2022, 11:57:22 AMIt's his latest shitstack post

And the many, many retweets of other GCs losing their shit over it too.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 18, 2022, 12:05:52 PM
If Owen Jones was GC I guarantee they would try to frame any criticism as homophobia
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: petril on May 18, 2022, 12:10:25 PM
I love the idea of him downloading a copy of it, falling for the fake credits and then walking out of his own home in his deluded anger
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 18, 2022, 12:11:55 PM
Random thought to a while back. I remember when all the GC's were angry at Daniel Radcliffe for respectfully disagreeing with JK Rowling. What boiled their piss more than him being vocally in disagreement with her was the fact that he didn't have a Twitter account, and therefore none of their brigading tactics worked. They tried to compensate by turning it into a trending hashtag, but I guarantee they were furious with the fact that they couldn't yell at him in person.

Still makes me chuckle.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 18, 2022, 12:34:19 PM
I prefer 'ethnicity' to 'race' because it's less loaded, and Bananacunt hangs out with actual Nazis and the far right so he can shut all the way up about Jews.

What actually did happen to that girl?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: shoulders on May 18, 2022, 12:36:22 PM
Quote from: mippy on May 18, 2022, 12:10:21 AMPORN CULTURE WANKFEST

... Which Glinner was well into on Twitter in years gone by, casually talking about masturbation and banal 'right guys' statements normalising pornography.

Change of tone now eh Banana
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: shoulders on May 18, 2022, 12:39:09 PM
QuoteBullying lone schoolgirls is so low, I don't think you can beat it.

Hi babe.

We know you're reading.

^^ That's you, that is.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 18, 2022, 12:46:40 PM
Remember when Glinner accused teenage girls of being porn obsessed for the crime of *checks note* wearing a choker?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mindy Simmons on May 18, 2022, 01:05:47 PM
Quote from: Vroomo on May 18, 2022, 09:08:51 AMIn the early days of twitter The Independent used to have a round-up of notable users best tweets from the day before & (big fish in a small pond) @glinner was always in there - making cracks at current events, tipping US TV shows, highlighting good causes, etc.

Fast forward a decade and now he's hiding behind a locked account slagging off a movie that pretty much every one else says is great.

Can confirm, he was on there all the time.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 18, 2022, 01:06:54 PM
Bullying teenage girls is AOK when they're trans or 'woke', though.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 18, 2022, 01:16:59 PM
Glinner is a fucking lighthouse with all the projection he does.

Everyone else is a bully (but not me). Jones is the Goebbels of the LGBT world (brb posting more anti-trans propaganda with the express intent to eliminate trans people from public spaces, and also TRAs should go to prison). Editing Wikipedia with inaccurate info is bad (I pay my solicitor to keep changing my wiki page from "anti-trans activist" to "feminist activist")

I even have a fourth example, here he is on his ban evasion account criticising Alan Driscoll for having a ban evasion account:

(https://i.imgur.com/BggOBwA.png)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 18, 2022, 01:24:23 PM
So lacking in self awareness. Only admits he was 'wrong' when it's something that might benefit him e.g the unreserved apology to IMC in order to get a slice of his following. What must it be like to go through life utterly convinced of your own infallibility and perceiving everyone else to be in the wrong at all times
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 18, 2022, 01:39:12 PM
Quote from: retsuza on May 18, 2022, 01:16:59 PMI even have a fourth example, here he is on his ban evasion account criticising Alan Driscoll for having a ban evasion account:

(https://i.imgur.com/BggOBwA.png)

I love how meta this is, I'm pretty sure AD posted that screenshot too.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 18, 2022, 01:43:50 PM
Love the fantasy realm he lives in.

"We had to threaten Twitter with the cops. And then I said to the president - get this..!"
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on May 18, 2022, 01:45:04 PM
Quote from: Vroomo on May 18, 2022, 09:08:51 AMIn the early days of twitter The Independent used to have a round-up of notable users best tweets from the day before & (big fish in a small pond) @glinner was always in there - making cracks at current events, tipping US TV shows, highlighting good causes, etc.

Fast forward a decade and now he's hiding behind a locked account slagging off a movie that pretty much every one else says is great.

Hang on, is he back in Twitter or this a gettr thing
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 18, 2022, 01:47:39 PM
Quote from: PlanktonSideburns on May 18, 2022, 01:45:04 PMHang on, is he back in Twitter or this a gettr thing

Back in the big leagues grahamlinehan7
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: TommyTurnips on May 18, 2022, 01:47:47 PM
Quote from: PlanktonSideburns on May 18, 2022, 01:45:04 PMHang on, is he back in Twitter or this a gettr thing

Back on twitter under a locked account waiting for Elon Musk to un-ban his account.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 18, 2022, 01:48:13 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/G1y721h.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Vroomo on May 18, 2022, 02:00:35 PM
Mainly UK productions on the porn channels. Yikety yike yikes! It was like a terrifying Eastenders special. I imagine. (Graham Linehan, writer)

- our Graham's contribution to 'THE NEWS IN 140 CHARACTERS' The Independent 27 Nov 2010.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 18, 2022, 02:08:16 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on May 18, 2022, 12:46:40 PMRemember when Glinner accused teenage girls of being porn obsessed for the crime of *checks note* wearing a choker?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

If he was outside a school at home time, holding his trousers up with one hand and using the other to point at girls that he thinks are dressed inappropriately whilst spluttering "PORN ADDICT" at them, that would of course be bad.

But because he does it online in the privacy of his grief hole it's great social discourse and important feminist work. And it doesn't even matter if his trousers fall down.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 18, 2022, 02:14:47 PM
Quote from: mippy on May 18, 2022, 12:10:21 AMPORN CULTURE WANKFEST

If this turns out to be yet another nice movie that's fun to watch and not a PORN CULTURE WANKFEST I'm gonna be furious!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 18, 2022, 02:50:02 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 18, 2022, 01:48:13 PM(https://i.imgur.com/G1y721h.jpg)
I knew just from Fuckface's description of the incident that it was probably bullshit.

Graham I know you're reading this so here's some free advice - stop screeching misogynist and Stonewall and captured every time you post about some Breitbart article you were too pissed to read properly. Your propaganda will be 50% more believable.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: LemenTheGent on May 18, 2022, 02:54:37 PM
What a ghoul Glinner is. I genuinely believe he's homophobic too, as are many GCs IMO. They have no tolerance for anyone LGBTQ+, it's just that trans people are currently the easiest target.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 18, 2022, 03:11:56 PM
Quote from: LemenTheGent on May 18, 2022, 02:54:37 PMWhat a ghoul Glinner is. I genuinely believe he's homophobic too, as are many GCs IMO.

The whole attack on Stonewall is incredibly homophobic.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 18, 2022, 03:14:20 PM
Even if the incident happened exactly as The Times reports (which is incredibly unlikely, given how reality works) there is nothing wrong with Jones wanting to verify the facts. Only a diseased brain would see that as bullying the child. It is more bullying to bring her to national attention
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 18, 2022, 03:19:23 PM
Owen Jones is perfectly correct when he says it's strange that the story doesn't feature any comment from the school
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 18, 2022, 03:22:31 PM
From the comments on that SGB post about Owen Jones:

Quote from: "Jill"Does anybody know the identity of the men who assaulted Owen Jones? I'd like to hear their side of the story.

As Jill has apparently never heard of Google, let's see what we can find for her...

Quote from: "The BBC"Following Healy's arrest, a search of his home revealed a photograph of him performing a Nazi salute.

The court heard the photo showed him as a teenager but had been printed out in 2015.

Healy, who has admitted affray and assault occasioning actual bodily harm, faced a trial of issue to determine his motivation for attacking Mr Jones.

In her ruling Judge Studd said that while it could not be proven Healy had been performing a Nazi salute in the photograph, she was "sure that [Healy] holds particular beliefs that are normally associated with the far right wing".

"I therefore propose to sentence Mr Healy on the basis that this was a wholly unprovoked attack on Mr Jones by reason of his widely published left-wing and LGBTQ beliefs by a man who has demonstrable right-wing sympathies," she said.

The court heard Healy has a string of convictions for football violence and is currently subject to a football banning order for encroaching on a pitch.

He also allegedly had a football hooligan flag adorned with SS symbols and a collection of pin badges linked to white supremacist groups.

There you go, Jill, you're welcome. That's the kind of person you want to hear "their side of the story" from, because you'd rather believe him than the victim, because Jones doesn't hate trans people.

Fuck you Jill, and fuck BC too.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 18, 2022, 03:30:06 PM
That is a completely facile comparison as well because the Owen Jones assault isn't reported in just a single article with no attribution. It was reported in full in lots of places and the court outcome is public record
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 18, 2022, 03:32:16 PM
That's what being GC does, it robs people of their empathy. They twist themselves into pretzels rather than show any empathy towards their 'enemy'

What Jill is trying to imply here is that Owen Jones did something to provoke the attack. 'Asking for it' is victim blaming and bigotry 101
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Guppy on May 18, 2022, 03:42:21 PM
Quote from: DreadedScotsman on May 18, 2022, 09:59:14 AMThere's no way he watched at the cinema it was released on vod in America this week so he'll have pirated it and sat at home leg twitching away, ready to pause it and scream about not defending JK Rowling
I know it's downloadable now, I just struggle to imagine him successfully torrenting stuff.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 18, 2022, 03:57:58 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 18, 2022, 03:32:16 PMThat's what being GC does, it robs people of their empathy. They twist themselves into pretzels rather than show any empathy towards their 'enemy'

What Jill is trying to imply here is that Owen Jones did something to provoke the attack. 'Asking for it' is victim blaming and bigotry 101

I don't think she is saying that. I think she is using the assault to make some kind of rubbish "no-one questions the veracity of that story so why question this" despite the differences that I mentioned in the post above.


I know it sounds a bit shit and cheesy but it all boils down to whether your dealings with people are based on love and understanding or fear and hate. Trans allies see trans people with compassion and empathy and TERFs see them with fear and hate. If we picture a trans person in our heads it is probably of a person just trying to get on with their lives in the best way they know how given their thoughts and feelings. TERFs see a bloke in a dress trying to terrorise women.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 18, 2022, 04:02:57 PM
TERFs have been told by GC cult leaders that trans women are perverts, mentally ill 'AGPs', predators etc etc. They've been conditioned by the cult leaders to fear them. It's very sad
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 18, 2022, 04:30:16 PM
Quote from: phantom_power on May 18, 2022, 03:57:58 PMI know it sounds a bit shit and cheesy but it all boils down to whether your dealings with people are based on love and understanding or fear and hate. Trans allies see trans people with compassion and empathy and TERFs see them with fear and hate. If we picture a trans person in our heads it is probably of a person just trying to get on with their lives in the best way they know how given their thoughts and feelings. TERFs see a bloke in a dress trying to terrorise women.

But do they? I think they pretend to see that becuase they just love the hate. They get off on that sweet hate-ohol
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 18, 2022, 04:33:28 PM
Some do obviously. But many do believe they are 'fighting for women and girls'. Remember that like any cults the GC leaders know the right things to say to keep people in a state of fear and panic
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 18, 2022, 04:34:33 PM
We may mock the Ferguson Challenge but from what I've read of PMQs today we will soon see the PM use it when facing a difficult question about the cost of living.

Transphobes must be so happy witb him. Wonder if Duffield applauded.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 18, 2022, 04:34:50 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/e4q32V3.jpg)

seriously though i'm sure there's a good concept album to be written here rather than just rewriting lyrics to one that already exists..
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: hexa on May 18, 2022, 04:34:55 PM
I know I'm 10 pages too late on this, but the whole black balaclava ninjas thing is a black bloc tactic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_bloc). Common in any left-wing demo, in particular used by anti-fascists. The fact that the GCs and people like JKR especially don't know this shows how little they've been to protests outside their obsession.

And it is a good idea to obscure your identity like that, especially with the way "the opposition" act - doxxing on KF etc.

Bad optics? Media coverage is so unrelentingly trans-negative that at this point does it even matter how we dress/behave?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: damien on May 18, 2022, 04:37:19 PM
I think there's a danger of me dying of hysterical laughter if the Musk deal doesn't happen and our hero gets left in limbo with a useless 800-follower Twitter account.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 18, 2022, 05:16:25 PM
It's looking less likely to happen. His Tesla stock is crashing since he said he'd buy Twitter
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: DreadedScotsman on May 18, 2022, 05:27:20 PM
Quote from: The Guppy on May 18, 2022, 03:42:21 PMI know it's downloadable now, I just struggle to imagine him successfully torrenting stuff.

I think torrenting is old enough that he'll have gotten to grips with it before the brainrot fully set in either thar or he's the only person still using lime wire and his pc is riddled with viruses and it was just porn he ended up getting and not the real film.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: drummersaredeaf on May 18, 2022, 05:55:14 PM
Quote from: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 18, 2022, 04:34:50 PM(https://i.imgur.com/e4q32V3.jpg)

seriously though i'm sure there's a good concept album to be written here rather than just rewriting lyrics to one that already exists..

But it was only fantasy
The wall was too high, as you can see
No matter how he tried, he could not break free
And the worms ate into his brain
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: RHX on May 18, 2022, 05:55:25 PM
Quote from: DreadedScotsman on May 18, 2022, 05:27:20 PMI think torrenting is old enough that he'll have gotten to grips with it before the brainrot fully set in either thar or he's the only person still using lime wire and his pc is riddled with viruses and it was just porn he ended up getting and not the real film.

Plus I doubt he'd know how to use a VPN so look forward to a future grief blog about how the evil TRAs stalked him by sending letters to his house from his ISP.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wrec on May 18, 2022, 06:04:53 PM
Funny how Rowling's history of domestic violence means she can bully with impunity, but Jones was the victim of a violent homophobic attack and is portrayed as a misogynist homophobe who's now bullying a child that probably doesn't exist (and if that's the case, many of those pushing the story know that). 

I was glad to see some Scottish sensible-Labour geezer I hadn't heard of get a lot of traction earlier for a tweet emphasising how transphobia is a rerun of the 80s homophobia he witnessed as a gay man. It can't be said enough and it's great to hear it coming from a side where opposition to transphobia isn't a given. Among the heartfelt supportive replies, the predictable smattering of transphobic dogma looks very ugly and cultish.

In the case of BC & co, I think there's little distinction to be made between their transphobia and homophobia. Even if some of the perpetrators are gay the tactics and rhetoric are exactly the same. BC is essentially an all-purpose bully, who has strange unexamined notions about women and gay people, exploits what he sees as vulnerabilities, using sexist and homophobic language if it suits him, even exploiting people's experiences of abuse to be hurtful.

On another tangent, seeing the stuff coming out in the Rooney / Vardy case makes me think how amazing it would be if key players chasing their day in court got their WhatsApp group messages aired in that context. Or, maybe that's just a bloodsport mentality, and it'd have little effect.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 18, 2022, 06:19:57 PM
Quote from: drummersaredeaf on May 18, 2022, 05:55:14 PMBut it was only fantasy
The wall was too high, as you can see
No matter how he tried, he could not break free
And the worms ate into his brain

haha exactly the song that made me think of him...I really REALLY hope I can listen to it without always thinking of him in future but there's definitely some parallels throughout the album with him.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on May 18, 2022, 06:28:13 PM
Quote from: drummersaredeaf on May 18, 2022, 05:55:14 PMBut it was only fantasy
The wall was too high, as you can see
No matter how he tried, he could not break free
And the worms ate into his brain

Genuinely thought I'd clicked the football chants thread and reading this was a trip
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mjwilson on May 18, 2022, 06:43:37 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on May 18, 2022, 09:56:41 AMA dildo joke? Were they pointy dildos?

Also it's over two hours. Did he see the right film?

There's a fairly brief bit with dildos, but a much longer sequence where some employee-of-the-month awards shaped like
Spoiler alert
butt plugs
[close]
get used as such. I would have thought that would be more of a big deal to someone determined to be offended.

Not sure whether this fits the "he left after part 1" theory, I don't remember the chronology in enough detail.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: drummersaredeaf on May 18, 2022, 06:51:16 PM
Quote from: Martin Van Buren Stan on May 18, 2022, 06:28:13 PMGenuinely thought I'd clicked the football chants thread and reading this was a trip

I used to sing it when Charlie Adam was lining up a direct free kick.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 18, 2022, 06:52:15 PM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 18, 2022, 01:15:51 AMJoke's on him, I'm bi. It's not an issue. Though seeing people purely in terms of whether they're fuckable or not is pretty gruesome.

I'm straight and I'd shag a trans woman. Because, you know, they're women. The problem is that saying this makes me sound like a marginally different kind of laddish dickhead, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 18, 2022, 07:13:14 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 18, 2022, 09:19:50 AMI'm not clever enough to think of something catchy but please can self-satisfied porn culture wankfest make it into a thread title in some way 🤣

Nothing Nowhere All At Once might work.

Or Nothing Nowhere Slowly Over Several Years, if you want to be accurate, but that kind of distracts from the reference.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: filthytrans on May 18, 2022, 07:27:03 PM
I don't know if everyone's heard, but Wings over Scotland is back on twitter, the shithead.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 18, 2022, 07:47:40 PM
Quote from: filthytrans on May 18, 2022, 07:27:03 PMI don't know if everyone's heard, but Wings over Scotland is back on twitter, the shithead.

Is it a new account? @RevStu and @WingsScotland still show as suspended.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Juan K Perros on May 18, 2022, 07:56:17 PM
Quote from: FalknerHinton on May 18, 2022, 07:47:40 PMIs it a new account? @RevStu and @WingsScotland still show as suspended.

This looks like it - https://mobile.twitter.com/TheGhostOfWings - joined a couple of days ago. All I saw was RTs which made it hard to know - particularly given the handle sounds a bit pisstakey - but then this tweet sounds exactly like the rat-toothed wankstain.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheGhostOfWings/status/1526695547117129728

ETA - replies certainly seem to confirm lots of folks think it's him. Followers list consists of the usual gang of non wheeshters and ABLA types who've got their name on the volunteer boaby-checkers signup sheet.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 18, 2022, 08:06:09 PM
Quote from: filthytrans on May 18, 2022, 07:27:03 PMI don't know if everyone's heard, but Wings over Scotland is back on twitter, the shithead.


Did he enjoy the local elections?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Juan K Perros on May 18, 2022, 08:08:36 PM
Quote from: jobotic on May 18, 2022, 08:06:09 PMDid he enjoy the local elections?

Bath's elections aren't til 2024.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 18, 2022, 08:08:55 PM
Quote from: Juan K Perros on May 18, 2022, 07:56:17 PMThis looks like it - https://mobile.twitter.com/TheGhostOfWings - joined a couple of days ago. All I saw was RTs which made it hard to know - particularly given the handle sounds a bit pisstakey - but then this tweet sounds exactly like the rat-toothed wankstain.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheGhostOfWings/status/1526695547117129728

ETA - replies certainly seem to confirm lots of folks think it's him. Followers list consists of the usual gang of non wheeshters and ABLA types who've got their name on the volunteer boaby-checkers signup sheet.

This exchange would suggest you're right

(https://i.ibb.co/yhd9WWb/F8-C194-C4-88-D5-4-A33-BAD1-068-EB1-DD06-AA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DGzJ55S)


Honestly, what is it with past it, mid-50s men being so obsessed with being on twitter?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Juan K Perros on May 18, 2022, 08:11:15 PM
Quote from: FalknerHinton on May 18, 2022, 08:08:55 PMThis exchange would suggest you're right



Honestly, what is it with past it, mid-50s men being so obsessed with being on twitter?

Only option for social media really; if you saw that coupon popping up on your insta you'd burn your computer to the ground.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 18, 2022, 08:34:51 PM
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 18, 2022, 08:54:16 PM
I'm not surprised Greybum didn't like Everything Everywhere All at Once.

I just got out of it and it contains
Spoiler alert
an ending where the hero defeats her enemies with kindness rather than with anger. It also features a couple on the brink of divorce reconciling their differences.
[close]

I bet he was crying big, ugly, angry tears while staring at photos of Helen his former Twitter account.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Famous Mortimer on May 18, 2022, 09:16:41 PM
Quote from: Juan K Perros on May 18, 2022, 07:56:17 PMthis tweet sounds exactly like the rat-toothed wankstain.
Are you my friend Colin because I've never met anyone who hates that shower of shite as much as he doe?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: petril on May 18, 2022, 09:23:58 PM
Quote from: FalknerHinton on May 18, 2022, 08:08:55 PMThis exchange would suggest you're right

(https://i.ibb.co/yhd9WWb/F8-C194-C4-88-D5-4-A33-BAD1-068-EB1-DD06-AA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DGzJ55S)


Honestly, what is it with past it, mid-50s men being so obsessed with being on twitter?

they heard The Kids were into it about 10 years ago or something, and have pretended to not care while seething with jealousy ever since
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 18, 2022, 09:42:18 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on May 18, 2022, 08:54:16 PMI'm not surprised Greybum didn't like Everything Everywhere All at Once.

I just got out of it and it contains
Spoiler alert
an ending where the hero defeats her enemies with kindness rather than with anger. It also features a couple on the brink of divorce reconciling their differences.
[close]


Spoiler alert
He seemingly walked out 40 minutes before it ended due to the fake out end credits. So he'd not have seen the ending.
[close]
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Juan K Perros on May 18, 2022, 10:01:14 PM
Quote from: Famous Mortimer on May 18, 2022, 09:16:41 PMAre you my friend Colin because I've never met anyone who hates that shower of shite as much as he doe?

Not the last time I looked mate. He first entered my consciousness in Amiga Power when even 14YO me thought 'walloper' and then I skipped the country in 2013, so I was completely oblivious to the stuff he did for Indyref, whether that was any good or not, and I managed to miss the Dugdale trial at the time as well. Only became aware of him again when he'd become solely a grifty bit of point and laugh material. Except he's never been in the least bit funny so it's more point and walloper.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: mippy on May 18, 2022, 10:16:01 PM
Quote from: filthytrans on May 18, 2022, 07:27:03 PMI don't know if everyone's heard, but Wings over Scotland is back on twitter, the shithead.

(https://img.ifunny.co/images/65a23dad34b625d6642be805d7a5d61255a1f76e484368110f38e5a61a41a790_1.webp)

(This, but Twitter.)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 18, 2022, 10:20:47 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 18, 2022, 10:23:37 AM(https://i.imgur.com/9uFupvQ.jpg)

Not the 200+ replies and QTs calling him a nonce then.

Or the hateful conduct

(https://i.imgur.com/ee14f4S.jpg)

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 18, 2022, 10:34:53 PM
Taken it better than Linehan did
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 18, 2022, 10:37:32 PM
The banished will appear before Judge Musk and reiterate their ban before being entered back into Twitter
"Ban evasion"
"I said that men aren't women"
Both of them immediately fall into a trap door.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: DreadedScotsman on May 18, 2022, 11:27:29 PM
Quote from: Famous Mortimer on May 18, 2022, 09:16:41 PMAre you my friend Colin because I've never met anyone who hates that shower of shite as much as he doe?

There are a few of us who hate that piece of shit just as much.

 
Quote from: Juan K Perros on May 18, 2022, 10:01:14 PMNot the last time I looked mate. He first entered my consciousness in Amiga Power when even 14YO me thought 'walloper' and then I skipped the country in 2013, so I was completely oblivious to the stuff he did for Indyref, whether that was any good or not, and I managed to miss the Dugdale trial at the time as well. Only became aware of him again when he'd become solely a grifty bit of point and laugh material. Except he's never been in the least bit funny so it's more point and walloper.

I first first heard about him due to the indyref stuff that put him on my radar then quickly found out how cuntish he was with his abject refusal to correctly gender Chelsea Manning, so even when he was being lauded as the saviour of the independence movement I was avoiding everything that prick put out, given 90% of it could be sourced from people who weren't complete shit stains. Since then he's only gotten worse as the transphobic brain rot fully set in and it took over his entire life.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 19, 2022, 12:11:17 AM
Man's always been a cunt, see for example the time he blamed Liverpool fans for Hillsborough, that was years before the Indyref stuff.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: DreadedScotsman on May 19, 2022, 12:12:51 AM
Quote from: FalknerHinton on May 19, 2022, 12:11:17 AMMan's always been a cunt, see for example the time he blamed Liverpool fans for Hillsborough, that was years before the Indyref stuff.

Oh yes no argument there but he, much like Linehan, became hyper focused on the trans stuff and barely talks about anything else.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 19, 2022, 12:16:42 AM
Quote from: DreadedScotsman on May 19, 2022, 12:12:51 AMOh yes no argument there but he, much like Linehan, became hyper focused on the trans stuff and barely talks about anything else.

A desperate pair of unscrupulous attention whores who shit on trans people for clout and money.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FredNurke on May 19, 2022, 12:35:20 AM
The highlight is still the time he argued with the laws of physics.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 19, 2022, 01:34:17 AM
Quote from: FalknerHinton on May 19, 2022, 12:11:17 AMMan's always been a cunt, see for example the time he blamed Liverpool fans for Hillsborough, that was years before the Indyref stuff.
The absolute state of it. Shouldn't be surprised though.

Speaking of footy, I wonder what Bananacunt thinks of Idrissa Gueye.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phes on May 19, 2022, 02:14:44 AM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 18, 2022, 09:19:50 AMI'm not clever enough to think of something catchy but please can self-satisfied porn culture wankfest make it into a thread title in some way 🤣

God is he still going on about sex. If this cunt was born in 1890 he'd have spent the autumn of his life obsessively furious about Elvis Presley's immoral hips.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 19, 2022, 07:12:44 AM
Quote from: Juan K Perros on May 18, 2022, 07:56:17 PMThis looks like it - https://mobile.twitter.com/TheGhostOfWings - joined a couple of days ago. All I saw was RTs which made it hard to know - particularly given the handle sounds a bit pisstakey - but then this tweet sounds exactly like the rat-toothed wankstain.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheGhostOfWings/status/1526695547117129728

ETA - replies certainly seem to confirm lots of folks think it's him. Followers list consists of the usual gang of non wheeshters and ABLA types who've got their name on the volunteer boaby-checkers signup sheet.

Lying about the age of the girl in question to make it sound worse as well. Is there nothing these pricks won't lie about to try and win people over? I suppose they have to as their real arguments are such bollocks
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 19, 2022, 07:36:42 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/BD8NPLp.jpg)

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: maizebasedsnack on May 19, 2022, 08:16:25 AM
Quote


Sometimes I give BC the benefit of the doubt in that he's just trolling with comments like that but you know, in his head, he's deadly serious.

"We should fix up a date to chat about GC stuff"

"Elon Musk will give me back my Twitter"

"Please tell Congress I came up with groomer"
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Auntie Beryl on May 19, 2022, 09:07:07 AM
Hello? (Hello? Hello? Hello?)

Is there anyone on Glindr?
Just post if you can see me
Is there anyone home?

Come on now
I hear you're feeling down
Well I can erase your sin
Get you out the pedal bin

Relax
I'll need some information first
Just the basic facts
Can you show me your converts?

---

There is no Patreon I am receiving
A distant career over the horizon
I am only coming through in raves
My legs twitch but you can't believe what I'm saying

When I was a child I had a fever
My brain felt just like two plantains
Now I've got that feeling once again
I can't explain you would not understand
This is now how I am
I have become transphobic & dumb

---

Okay (okay, okay, okay)
Just a thin-skinned prick
There'll be no more TV work
And you may feel a little sick

Can you stand up?
I do believe you're drunken, good
That'll keep you going through the Mess
That YouTube SOS

---

There is no BAFTA I am receiving
A distant dream over the horizon
This is not how a sane guy behaves
My lips move but you can't stand what I'm saying

When I was 45
I had a fam-i-ly
And then I started with the lies
I turned to Twitter but it was gone
I cannot put my finger on it now
The wife is gone
The house is gone
I have become transphobic & dumb
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: YouCantWriteTearsJimmy on May 19, 2022, 09:22:54 AM
Ok, i'm done. The fecker is unironically sharing Project Veritas poo, i'm done. From the bottom of my heart, i can't thank the world enough that the US is a separate country/has a different language, so all the crazies that go down this rabbit hole in my country have little/no impact and keep posting about Democrats being Soros ploys, while leaving our politics a bit untouched. 
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: boki on May 19, 2022, 09:40:30 AM
Quote from: Juan K Perros on May 18, 2022, 10:01:14 PMNot the last time I looked mate. He first entered my consciousness in Amiga Power when even 14YO me thought 'walloper' and then I skipped the country in 2013, so I was completely oblivious to the stuff he did for Indyref, whether that was any good or not, and I managed to miss the Dugdale trial at the time as well. Only became aware of him again when he'd become solely a grifty bit of point and laugh material. Except he's never been in the least bit funny so it's more point and walloper.
A point and dick adventure, if you will.

Quote from: jobotic on May 18, 2022, 10:34:53 PMTaken it better than Linehan did
WAF always has his glittering career in the creative arts to fall back on, maybe Graham could consider giving something like that a go.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 19, 2022, 10:04:06 AM
Quote from: Auntie Beryl on May 19, 2022, 09:07:07 AMHello? (Hello? Hello? Hello?)

Is there anyone on Glindr?
Just post if you can see me
Is there anyone home?

Come on now
I hear you're feeling down
Well I can erase your sin
Get you out the pedal bin

Relax
I'll need some information first
Just the basic facts
Can you show me your converts?

---

There is no Patreon I am receiving
A distant career over the horizon
I am only coming through in raves
My legs twitch but you can't believe what I'm saying

When I was a child I had a fever
My brain felt just like two plantains
Now I've got that feeling once again
I can't explain you would not understand
This is now how I am
I have become transphobic & dumb

---

Okay (okay, okay, okay)
Just a thin-skinned prick
There'll be no more TV work
And you may feel a little sick

Can you stand up?
I do believe you're drunken, good
That'll keep you going through the Mess
That YouTube SOS

---

There is no BAFTA I am receiving
A distant dream over the horizon
This is not how a sane guy behaves
My lips move but you can't stand what I'm saying

When I was 45
I had a fam-i-ly
And then I started with the lies
I turned to Twitter but it was gone
I cannot put my finger on it now
The wife is gone
The house is gone
I have become transphobic & dumb

Applause
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 19, 2022, 10:50:33 AM
Quote from: Juan K Perros on May 18, 2022, 08:08:36 PMBath's elections aren't til 2024.
lmao
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 19, 2022, 10:57:14 AM
They're arguing over who was first with The Staniland Question now

https://twitter.com/radfem_fem/status/1526645406448295936?t=LZ2XdmxaQvhE26oVCVi0kg&s=19

(https://i.imgur.com/7gaHzvt.png)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: racecar bed indy 500 on May 19, 2022, 11:06:51 AM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 19, 2022, 10:57:14 AMThey're arguing over who was first with The Staniland Question now

https://twitter.com/radfem_fem/status/1526645406448295936?t=LZ2XdmxaQvhE26oVCVi0kg&s=19

(https://i.imgur.com/7gaHzvt.png)

[pulls out comically large bag of popcorn]
this shit's gonna get good.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 19, 2022, 11:07:24 AM
Hilarious support here

(https://i.imgur.com/UlqmiuZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 19, 2022, 11:11:13 AM
That explains this tweet from Ann Coates

https://twitter.com/setoacnna/status/1527203739123294208?t=ZTPBELx1ZXvaqXCo-4DgzQ&s=19
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 19, 2022, 11:13:58 AM
Do you believe a teenage mutant ninja turtle has the right to remove her shell in a room without the Foot Clan, Shredder, or possibly Krang?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 19, 2022, 11:14:27 AM
Jesus Christ. They're grown ups.

I might start a crowdfunder so I can sue anyone who claims I didn't come with "benny on the loose".
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 19, 2022, 11:17:35 AM
Someone here complained recently there was a lack of infighting. We didn't have to wait too long. I wonder will GL weigh in on the debate. He'll obviously be protective of Helen but he also won't want to annoy Posie and her extremists either
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 19, 2022, 11:18:17 AM
Actually it's more like an argument over who first said "Islam isn't actually a race actually".
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 19, 2022, 11:18:39 AM
Anybody claiming they came up with Gary Glinner before me will be speaking to my attorney.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 19, 2022, 11:20:58 AM
If it is an incredibly obvious question a) why is someone claiming credit for it and more importantly b) why does it need to keep being re-worded to be as obfuscating and leading as possible?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 19, 2022, 11:23:22 AM
"No I have been a bigger transphobe for far longer than you, pls give me due credit for my obsession with genitalia."

Finally, adults in the room.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 19, 2022, 11:29:12 AM
I wonder what changed that PP and her extremists decided all of a sudden they wanted credit for this question. Perhaps they too were bored by the lack of infighting
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 19, 2022, 11:38:46 AM
Posie needs the clout for her grift
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 19, 2022, 11:39:57 AM
That Adult Human Female merch isn't gonna sell itself
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 19, 2022, 11:42:56 AM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 19, 2022, 11:29:12 AMI wonder what changed that PP and her extremists decided all of a sudden they wanted credit for this question. Perhaps they too were bored by the lack of infighting

I think I saw someone say that PP mentioned it at the Manchester doo.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 19, 2022, 11:47:48 AM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 19, 2022, 11:29:12 AMI wonder what changed that PP and her extremists decided all of a sudden they wanted credit for this question. Perhaps they too were bored by the lack of infighting

I think she's really vanished up her own hole after that recent trip to America. The interview with Meghan Murphy on her return was insane; Kelly Jane Keen just kept on and on and on about how viral she had went by hassling Lea Thomas and arguing with a trans person there. Also mentioned how proud she was that her kids said Ben Shapiro mentioned her or somesuch. She was really, really high on her own farts.

Just seems to want more and more attention and praise. She's getting increasingly like Linehan in that "this whole fight" is less to do with trans people, and more to do with getting media attention and making money.

And those GC scarves she wears everywhere now look fucking shite.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 19, 2022, 11:48:27 AM
Oh jesus. If this really is for the 'greater good' and 'protecting womens rights' would they care who came up with it as long as it's getting asked and out there? Any GCs who might be reading here, are you now able to see that this is all about griftng and ego and nothing to do with fighting for womens rights?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 19, 2022, 11:51:08 AM
Quote from: JamesTC on May 19, 2022, 11:18:39 AMAnybody claiming they came up with Gary Glinner before me will be speaking to my attorney.
We've been trying mate, answer the bloody door.  It's all JustEats containers out here.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: g0m on May 19, 2022, 11:51:43 AM
look, if i had come up with something really clever and good, and people were saying someone else had come up with it first, yeah, I'd be pissed. And Staniland thinks her question is really clever because she has a stupid person's brain instead of a regular one
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Pimhole on May 19, 2022, 11:56:35 AM
Do you believe that a 14 year old girl should have to change next to an 88 year old man?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 19, 2022, 11:58:02 AM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 19, 2022, 11:47:48 AMJust seems to want more and more attention and praise. She's getting increasingly like Linehan in that "this whole fight" is less to do with trans people, and more to do with getting media attention and making money.


KJK is 100% about the money, I wouldn't be surprised if she rakes in more than all the other British GCs put together - Graham must be fuming.

"Be the billboard" (buy my merch)

(https://i.imgur.com/EM1l5OJ.png)

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 19, 2022, 12:02:01 PM
She is someone who doesn't believe a word of what she's saying but just loooooves the hate. And the money.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Vroomo on May 19, 2022, 12:03:13 PM
Wait until they try and claim they came up with William's question.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 19, 2022, 12:04:46 PM
Quote from: Sonny_Jim on May 19, 2022, 11:51:08 AMWe've been trying mate, answer the bloody door.  It's all JustEats containers out here.


The bins are backed up like mad in Sefton so you can't blame me.

Glinner is probably doing a journalism on it though, blaming it on trans people somehow.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: pigamus on May 19, 2022, 12:05:41 PM
Quote from: Pimhole on May 19, 2022, 11:56:35 AMDo you believe that a 14 year old girl should have to change next to an 88 year old man?

You want all French presidents to die alone?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JamesTC on May 19, 2022, 12:08:16 PM
Quote from: Pimhole on May 19, 2022, 11:56:35 AMDo you believe that a 14 year old girl should have to change next to an 88 year old man?

Every single one.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 19, 2022, 12:12:26 PM
Quote from: jobotic on May 19, 2022, 12:02:01 PMShe is someone who doesn't believe a word of what she's saying but just loooooves the hate. And the money.

It still blows my mind that she hopped on a transatlantic flight just to shout abuse at trans women. Twice
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 19, 2022, 12:22:41 PM
Quote from: Vroomo on May 19, 2022, 12:03:13 PMWait until they try and claim they came up with William's question.

(https://i.imgur.com/9EyGQR8.png)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 19, 2022, 12:29:34 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 19, 2022, 11:58:02 AMKJK is 100% about the money, I wouldn't be surprised if she rakes in more than all the other British GCs put together - Graham must be fuming.

"Be the billboard" (buy my merch)

(https://i.imgur.com/EM1l5OJ.png)

Yeah, she's been getting so much worse over the years. I really appreciate your dedication in archiving so much of this kind of thing, thank you.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 19, 2022, 12:34:30 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 19, 2022, 07:36:42 AM

God it's pathetic. Yet an oddly humble demand from someone who has spent years trying to position himself as a vital leader of a movement that largely doesn't even want him.

You'd think given his whole egomaniacal crusade he'd be keen for his vast contribution to be recognised accordingly. Perhaps a statue in Westminster (next to Pankhurst, giving a modest hey-don't-thank-me shrug) along with his enemies being brought to his feet to BEG for forgiveness.

Yet all he wants congress to know about him is that he was the first to make some shit little joke that he yells from the sidelines while contributing nothing of any importance. What the hell are they supposed to say to that? "er...yeah great. anyway, moving on. also, who?"

Just like how he asks people to somehow contact Elon Musk on his behalf, he's now "jokingly" asking people to pass on this shite to congress? At least they didn't make the same mistake as the house of commons and actually invite him in only to hear a bunch of guff about being banned from twitter.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wrec on May 19, 2022, 12:58:24 PM
He wants to be on Fox doing his "they took everything from me" routine with people who will discuss trans rights as part of white replacement theory.

Anyway I voted for KKK KJK.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 19, 2022, 12:59:06 PM
Quote from: wrec on May 19, 2022, 12:58:24 PMHe wants to be on Fox doing his "they took everything routine" with people who will discuss trans rights as part of white replacement theory.

Anyway I voted for KKK KJK.

What were the poll results?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wrec on May 19, 2022, 01:00:47 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 19, 2022, 12:59:06 PMWhat were the poll results?

46 KJK / 54 HS at the moment

Ideal result would be a Brexit style 51/49
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Juan K Perros on May 19, 2022, 01:04:54 PM
Quote from: boki on May 19, 2022, 09:40:30 AMA point and dick adventure, if you will.


I now have a vision of Linehan as LeChuck but the secret of monkey island is all the monkeys have starved because he's now a 200ft gundam made of all the bananas.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on May 19, 2022, 01:18:44 PM
Fascinating to read the first few responses on the first thread in this series. Linehan was given lots of benefit of the doubt, and many posters seemed to agree with him. Blows his claim that this site has hated him for 20 years out of the water.

QuoteIf only there was some way of asking him.

Lots of women have very real and sensible concerns about how self-identifying trans people's rights have been forced together with their own rights. Surely you can see that people could have legitimate concerns about people with penises in women's toilets? Or that self-ID trans women are allowed onto AWS that women have fought for years to get?

If the Labour party was serious about trans rights, and about getting trans people into parliament, it could have set up all trans shortlists. But it didn't. And any dissent for this policy has led to exclusion from the party, rather than thinking that perhaps this policy is poorly thought out.

Nobody I know that has stood against this is against trans rights. They all believe trans rights are important. It's about how these rights are being implemented.

QuoteIs it that alarming? A comedy writer holds an opinion on a complicated issue - and if it aligns with what Dr. Brunsell-Evans outlines in that letter then it's a thoughtful and valid one. That's it really. If you are alarmed that anybody might publicly say things that don't 100% match up with what you believe the 'right' thing to be, you are easily alarmed.

QuoteSomeone holds a different opinion to you on complex gender issues. Whatever next...

Many such responses! If he'd just continued to be reasonable in his statements or just shut up about it I'm sure there wouldn't have been more than one or two threads here.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: canadagoose on May 19, 2022, 02:23:28 PM
Quote from: Martin Van Buren Stan on May 19, 2022, 01:18:44 PMFascinating to read the first few responses on the first thread in this series. Linehan was given lots of benefit of the doubt, and many posters seemed to agree with him. Blows his claim that this site has hated him for 20 years out of the water.

Many such responses! If he'd just continued to be reasonable in his statements or just shut up about it I'm sure there wouldn't have been more than one or two threads here.
"Sensible concerns". Hmmmmmmmm

Edit: Interesting that that DeGrise character mostly seemed to post in these topics, doing the old "ooh I'm genuinely concerned" faux-naive routine. I can see it a mile away nowadays, but I wonder how many people would have been taken in by it?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 19, 2022, 02:32:16 PM
Quote from: The Guppy on May 18, 2022, 02:43:37 AMIt must be torture for him to sit through a whole film in a cinema. At least when he's at bigot rallies he can whip his phone out every two minutes to check Twitter.
Bet you a tenner he torrented it since the quality pirates just landed yesterday.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 19, 2022, 02:35:17 PM
Of the GC leaders the 'moderate, sensible concerns' are in some ways more insidious than the extremists like PP. PP is openly full of hate but the moderates pull the wool over womens eyes, they're the GC leaders that attract women who genuinely think they are fighting for women's rights
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: DJ Bob Hoskins on May 19, 2022, 02:47:45 PM
Quote from: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 19, 2022, 02:32:16 PMBet you a tenner he torrented it since the quality pirates just landed yesterday.

He'll have streamed it by Googling the film title followed by "watch online" or similar. There's no way a man who can't figure out how to order Juat Eat can install and work a torrent client.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 19, 2022, 02:50:06 PM
Quote from: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 19, 2022, 02:32:16 PMBet you a tenner he torrented it since the quality pirates just landed yesterday.

EDIT:

Quote from: DreadedScotsman on May 18, 2022, 09:59:14 AMThere's no way he watched at the cinema it was released on vod in America this week so he'll have pirated it and sat at home leg twitching away, ready to pause it and scream about not defending JK Rowling


Whoops!

Edit edit: THIS was meant to be me editing my original post, speaking of not understanding even simple technology.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 19, 2022, 02:52:10 PM
There's Everything Everywhere All at Once going on!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 19, 2022, 02:58:50 PM
https://twitter.com/AnxietySugar_/status/1527005333645836289?t=yZD97CWsHeWhqQa6zCXogg&s=19

We will see more incidents like this unfortunately
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 19, 2022, 03:00:39 PM
You know who else had 'sensible concerns'? The Spanish Inquisition. And Thanos.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ferris on May 19, 2022, 03:00:45 PM
Quote from: Juan K Perros on May 19, 2022, 01:04:54 PMI now have a vision of Linehan as LeChuck but the secret of monkey island is all the monkeys have starved because he's now a 200ft gundam made of all the bananas.

Laughed on a video call, cheers for that image.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 19, 2022, 03:04:24 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 19, 2022, 02:58:50 PMhttps://twitter.com/AnxietySugar_/status/1527005333645836289?t=yZD97CWsHeWhqQa6zCXogg&s=19

We will see more incidents like this unfortunately

A good day for Baroness Nicholson.

(https://i.imgur.com/8qJqIfK.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 19, 2022, 03:13:31 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 19, 2022, 02:58:50 PMhttps://twitter.com/AnxietySugar_/status/1527005333645836289?t=yZD97CWsHeWhqQa6zCXogg&s=19

We will see more incidents like this unfortunately

Was coming to the thread to post about that too:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/disabled-ms-shopper-tears-staff-27003304

(https://i.postimg.cc/pLWwkcLw/IMG-20220519-144814.jpg)

And yeah, remember the anti-trans activists with their dinosaur suits and crowd-funded AA batteries were protesting outside M&S around the time Nicholson sent the above letter?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 19, 2022, 03:19:45 PM
Quote from: Juan K Perros on May 19, 2022, 01:04:54 PMI now have a vision of Linehan as LeChuck but the secret of monkey island is all the monkeys have starved because he's now a 200ft gundam made of all the bananas.

(https://i.ibb.co/PFky00L/909239-E1-568-A-4-FA7-B126-14-DD430-ED461.png)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 19, 2022, 03:33:55 PM
Genuine lol as it was exactly as I expected.  Well done
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 19, 2022, 03:36:23 PM
Worth keeping in mind this public harassment by the toilet police isn't some byproduct of terf activism, its explicity what they want to happen.

(https://i.imgur.com/tg3PSi1.png)

This dullard went on to say she could prove she was really female with her ID if worst comes to worst, which is an unbelievable thing to have to produce to take a shit and also seems to ignore that women who are trans can get their ID updated.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 19, 2022, 03:39:03 PM
Yes they'll be harassing the women who was treated like shit in M&S for not proudly making a sacrifice for her fellow sisters who won't wheeesht. And probably for having a nose-ring and being young.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 19, 2022, 03:46:26 PM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 19, 2022, 03:13:31 PMAnd yeah, remember the anti-trans activists with their dinosaur suits and crowd-funded AA batteries were protesting outside M&S around the time Nicholson sent the above letter?

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 19, 2022, 04:04:01 PM
Quote from: Pimhole on May 19, 2022, 11:56:35 AMDo you believe that a 14 year old girl should have to change next to an 88 year old man?

(https://i.imgur.com/XSHLcmm.jpg)
No way!

(https://i.imgur.com/7jkhI2a.jpg)
You should be in a mental asylum.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 19, 2022, 04:25:00 PM
Quote from: jobotic on May 19, 2022, 03:39:03 PMYes they'll be harassing the women who was treated like shit in M&S for not proudly making a sacrifice for her fellow sisters who won't wheeesht. And probably for having a nose-ring and being young.

Handmaiden!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: DreadedScotsman on May 19, 2022, 04:31:38 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 19, 2022, 12:22:41 PM(https://i.imgur.com/9EyGQR8.png)

And to keep it accurate to standard GC questioning then anyone who says no you then reply accusing the person of wanting 14 year olds to get murdered
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 19, 2022, 04:45:43 PM
Quote from: DreadedScotsman on May 19, 2022, 04:31:38 PMAnd to keep it accurate to standard GC questioning then anyone who says no you then reply accusing the person of wanting 14 year olds to get murdered

Haha
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: imitationleather on May 19, 2022, 04:50:41 PM
Quote from: jobotic on May 19, 2022, 12:02:01 PMShe is someone who doesn't believe a word of what she's saying but just loooooves the hate. And the money.

Sometimes when money is really tight I do wish I had it in me to grift at something I completely don't believe in for the cash, like I am highly suspicious plenty of alt-right types do. But it just ain't in me, man. It just ain't!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Famous Mortimer on May 19, 2022, 05:15:14 PM
Quote from: Pimhole on May 19, 2022, 11:56:35 AMDo you believe that a 14 year old girl should have to change next to an 88 year old man?
I'm so tired, I can't even tell if this is deliberate or not.

https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/1488
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ferris on May 19, 2022, 05:24:38 PM
Quote from: Famous Mortimer on May 19, 2022, 05:15:14 PMI'm so tired, I can't even tell if this is deliberate or not.

https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/1488

I believe it was an intentional nod towards how a lot of these "just asking questions" contain dog whistles for what they really mean.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Famous Mortimer on May 19, 2022, 06:04:07 PM
You're right, I figured I wasn't the first person smart enough to spot it.

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wrec on May 19, 2022, 06:44:58 PM
Quote from: retsuza on May 19, 2022, 03:36:23 PMThis dullard went on to say she could prove she was really female with her ID if worst comes to worst, which is an unbelievable thing to have to produce to take a shit and also seems to ignore that women who are trans can get their ID updated.

Also, considering that Manchester and Bristol were targeted for "protests", it's notable that what she phrases oddly as "the Temple Bar district" is roughly where there's a concentration of well-known gay bars. I'm assuming that the incident didn't happen, which is hardly relevant considering how it's being weaponised. But I suspect the message is that this happened in a traditionally LGBT+-friendly area, not a backwater.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 19, 2022, 08:02:48 PM
'Today I was DELIGHTED to be mistaken for a man. When I showed the brave toilet guard my ID, and vagina, we both laughed and then cried. Then everybody clapped'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: somersetchris on May 19, 2022, 08:12:52 PM
Be sure to set your alarm so you can avoid it: Tonight on his show Piers Morgan will be asking 'what is a woman?' to Anne Robinson.

I wonder if more than 20,000 people will tune in for this one?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: somersetchris on May 19, 2022, 08:25:34 PM
Quote from: Martin Van Buren Stan on May 19, 2022, 01:18:44 PMFascinating to read the first few responses on the first thread in this series. Linehan was given lots of benefit of the doubt, and many posters seemed to agree with him. Blows his claim that this site has hated him for 20 years out of the water.

Yes I only joined around thread 11 so I have gone back to the original threads to catch up as there are some references I still don't get, and the phrase 'genuine concerns' does get used A LOT. Twice in the first paragraph you quoted. I guess it's more of a red flag now, as soon as someone uses that expression you know exactly where the conversation is heading. At least that's one good thing about terfs, they have such a limited set of stock phrases they're so easy to spot (same goes for anti-vax conspiracy types, they just repeat the same things over and over).

Of course Helen Staniland takes this to extreme by just repeating one sentence ad infinitum. At least the others mix it up a bit.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 19, 2022, 08:36:50 PM
"Genuine concerns" wasn't anywhere near as much of a cliche then for sure, I distinctly remember me and @canadagoose starting to parody it at one point. Transphobes just repeat shit without thinking about it - there's your "social contagion" right there.

The one that still really bugs me is something like "how can women fight their oppression if they can't even say woman", or something like that. You see all these derivations of it now, and none of them stand up to the slightest scrutiny, but they sound like cute little aphorisms, so everyone just cuts and pastes that shit.

Edit: had to refresh my own memory. This kind of thing, second tweet in particular. Why do they think it makes sense? Because they really believe that women are an endangered species? The stuff about transhumanism and such in that William Ferguson podcast interview is just bonkers.

(https://i.postimg.cc/PqYtrbM2/IMG-20220519-203907.jpg)

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: somersetchris on May 19, 2022, 08:50:52 PM
It borders on self-parody. It's pretty much 'if you even say you're a woman these days, they throw you in jail!'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 19, 2022, 09:01:21 PM
'I'd like to report a violent assault. By a man.'

'A cis man? Or a trans man?'

'I don't use those terms. Ok he wasn't trans, I'll say that.'

'Right. Not much I can do really. Are you a woman? What even is a woman these days? Some people identify as attack helicopters, haha. Now get out'
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 19, 2022, 09:09:13 PM
Wait until they hear about foreign countries. They don't even use the word woman!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 19, 2022, 09:15:34 PM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 19, 2022, 08:36:50 PMWhy do they think it makes sense? Because they really believe that women are an endangered species?

They don't think about it at all, any more than Trumpers seriously interrogated the notion that Mexico was sending "bad dudes" up to the US to murder and rape and claim benefits. It's a catchy phrase/easy concept that reinforces and stokes their bigotry by playing on their fears while reassuring them that a figure of authority understands their "concerns" and is going to fight back on their behalf (and in exchange for their money/votes/retweets).

It's why "GC" ideology is so incoherent - it's just a collection of catchphrases rudely assembled into some kind of carapace to protect and hide the raw hatred and disgust that actually motivates their "beliefs".
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 19, 2022, 09:28:09 PM
I know I just love being challenged when I'm going for a slash.

Mister Six, I use 'they' as a gender neutral pronoun when I translate 'il' or 'er', instead of 'he'. According to GCs, this is 'woke' and ungrammatical because 'they' is always plural, even though that's horse shit. How did we get to the point where feminists are arguing AGAINST gender neutral language and the male pronoun as default?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 19, 2022, 10:15:44 PM
Quote from: somersetchris on May 19, 2022, 08:12:52 PMBe sure to set your alarm so you can avoid it: Tonight on his show Piers Morgan will be asking 'what is a woman?' to Anne Robinson.

I wonder if more than 20,000 people will tune in for this one?
What is a woman? Oh,
A Hulkamaniac
She powerbombs motherfuckers into thumbtacks
People like her till they find out she's unstable
She Saboo'd your momma through a coffee table

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 19, 2022, 10:24:49 PM
Quote from: Mister Six on May 19, 2022, 09:15:34 PMThey don't think about it at all, any more than Trumpers seriously interrogated the notion that Mexico was sending "bad dudes" up to the US to murder and rape and claim benefits. It's a catchy phrase/easy concept that reinforces and stokes their bigotry by playing on their fears while reassuring them that a figure of authority understands their "concerns" and is going to fight back on their behalf (and in exchange for their money/votes/retweets).

It's why "GC" ideology is so incoherent - it's just a collection of catchphrases rudely assembled into some kind of carapace to protect and hide the raw hatred and disgust that actually motivates their "beliefs".

Yea I think you're right. I had a bit of a deeper look as I figured people must get pushed on it at times, and is like to see how it is defended without more "thought-terminating clichés."

I ended up tracking back to a Hadley Freeman post which I think is worth sharing:

(https://i.postimg.cc/VLxRST0q/IMG-20220519-221729.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/YCQxQ3QJ/IMG-20220519-221745.jpg)

So the whole thing really just loops round on itself.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 19, 2022, 10:50:34 PM
Wet Ass Ferguson has had enough (for now), though it's still all "the TRAs" fault somehow

QuoteWhich is why I have elected to step away from this for a bit because I am at the point where...well, let's just say my anger is spilling over to dangerously unhealthy levels and I find myself headed into a really dark place.

QuoteAllow me to put this another way:

While I wouldn't actually harm a trans person but if I saw one step out into traffic, about to get hit by an oncoming bus whereas I and I alone have the ability to reach out and pull them to safety it wouldn't be much of a dealbreaker for me if they just got hit by the bus.

And that's a very dark, ugly thing to think.

These TRAs really need to examine why someone like me would feel that way.

Maybe someone like you would think that way because you're a danger and need to get some professional help, William.

Nah, must be everyone else's fault. Time to take a million more selfies!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JaDanketies on May 19, 2022, 11:00:18 PM
Is he stealing photos or what's the score with that. I don't think Photoshop can work miracles. Maybe they're photos of him in his 20s?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 19, 2022, 11:10:07 PM
Quote from: A psychopathThese TRAs really need to examine why someone like me would feel that way.

Fucking hell.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 19, 2022, 11:17:05 PM
Quote from: FalknerHinton on May 19, 2022, 10:50:34 PMMaybe someone like you would think that way because you're a danger and need to get some professional help, William.

Nah, must be everyone else's fault. Time to take a million more selfies!

That's mindboggling:

Quote from: William FergusonThese TRAs really need to examine why someone like me would feel that way.

I mean, the TRA's all know already. It's because he's absolutely obsessed with trans people, and has spent years and years hating them and reading everything negative he can find, and writing about them, and paying money to Linehan to read even more hate. Dude has spent years down a rabbit hole of hate and now he's wondering why he's full of anger and rage.

It happens to any group that is just founded round negativity. Look at how miserable Comedy Chat was in the past, or look at almost any fan forum - you'll find a lot of people (like I very much used to be) who get caught up in silly minutiae, and it all just breeds more and more contempt.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mister Six on May 19, 2022, 11:38:08 PM
WAF is basically just unironically recreating the Eric Andre "Why would X do this?" meme, isn't he?

Obviously when you find yourself homicidally seething with hatred, the subjects of your loathing are the ones who should be questioning themselves, not you. Obviously.

Quote from: Barry Admin on May 19, 2022, 10:24:49 PMSo the whole thing really just loops round on itself.

Because there's no coherent logical throughline with their purported beliefs, so they just bounce from one unconnected catchphrase to another like a pinball.

Quote from: Kankurette on May 19, 2022, 09:28:09 PMMister Six, I use 'they' as a gender neutral pronoun when I translate 'il' or 'er', instead of 'he'. According to GCs, this is 'woke' and ungrammatical because 'they' is always plural, even though that's horse shit. How did we get to the point where feminists are arguing AGAINST gender neutral language and the male pronoun as default?

Well, to what extent are most of these people actually feminists in the sense of people engaged with actual feminist teachings and thought, and to what extent are they just people who are kind of vaguely pro-equality for cis women, but also wracked with prejudices against trans people that they'd rather justify than acknowledge, interrogate and challenge?

Quote from: JaDanketies on May 19, 2022, 11:00:18 PMIs he stealing photos or what's the score with that. I don't think Photoshop can work miracles. Maybe they're photos of him in his 20s?

I assume it's an AI face app filter. Some of them are pretty impressive these days.

WAF's obsession with them is weird though. He's like Buffalo Bill, except thankfully dressed up in pixels rather than woman-skin (for now, at least).
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BigotsShouldWheest on May 20, 2022, 12:05:28 AM
Who came up with being paranoid about who was in your bathrooms first? Pfft, here's lesbian punk band Tribe 8 singing about being challenged about their gender back in 1996;


When you're just repeating the lumbering dinosaur logic of 1990s US bigots, you know you're on the right side of history...

Regarding Wreaths Over Scotsman's Career, it's a damn shame; he has done some brilliant, pro-consumer work over the years, but the signs were always there that he gets obsessional to the point of blindness, and it seems to have finally swallowed him whole.

He's always been cantankerous and stubborn, to the point one game's industry advert even used the tagline "So good even that bastard Stuart Campbell liked it" back in the Amgia Power days. But it was easy to ignore that lack of social skills when it was applied to defending readers from shoddy conversions, overpriced badly programmed rubbish, or attempts by the newest owners of Commodore (whoever they were at that specific moment) to manipulate the media. His reviews, if you knew what his strict, uncompromising tastes were, could be used as an honest bellweather for whether you'd like the game too, untainted by industry payola or brand fanboyism. His work in proving slot machines were advertising randomness when they were fixing the odds was, what ever your views on gambling (I loathe it and never play) was a genuinely good thing.

But with his interest in Scottish Nationalism, it became obvious that he was starting to become unable to think outside of black and white, crippling manichaeism; everything ever was Good News for the SNP, every attempt to argue or anything different, no matter how reasonable or even just realistic, was awful and, driven by an increasingly intolerant, paranoid community, evidence of organised "Yoonism". I remember I realised at the same time both that the Wings community was no longer even seeing basic reality, as well that the Referendum was likely to be lost, when they started arguing that Westminster would just let Scotland use the British Pound... the same UK Government they were so desperate to leave because it was a genuinely shit, promise breaking bunch of malicious bastards? But genuine malicious bastards were going to let Scotland link to their currency because the SNP needed to avoid the question of economic uncertainty which was hobbling them in the polls...?

I'm not a psychiatrist, and you shouldn't try and analyise anyone at remote distance anyway, but it's hard to escape the conclusion that so many of these people who go from supposed Left Wing, Punk Rock, anti-Establishment characters go into hard right, hate filled politics is because eventually the pressure of trying to believe in an idealistic view of the world which never quite actually happens ultimately breaks them, and they have to go looking for external enemies who must be preventing the Revolution. And who better to blame than other lefties and fellow travellors? After all, you've fought with them all the time anyway, as all we leftists do, so it's just a small step towards becoming Alt Right and hating them because now you realise they're genuinely evil...  Christopher Hitchens, Julie Burchill, Susanne Moore, RevStu, Gary Glinner as you've archived so well here, heck you can go all the way back to Paul in the Bible, there's nothing so frothingly committed as a former opponent who becomes a convert to a new cause, nor more loathsome to their former allies.

I saw that with sadness as the kind of person who once took a copy of Amiga Power to Bath, to read my favourite bits near where it was written originally. But it's such a damn, damn shame to see someone you had some respect for in childhood collapse into conspiracy theorising about Trans individuals using toilets as part of a massive, sinister campaign to abuse women.

Let's have some punk that stayed true to it's principles again as a palate cleanser, shall we?


See that, TERFs? That's your side now.

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: DJ Bob Hoskins on May 20, 2022, 01:16:22 AM
I wonder if Glinner / Odolphi / etc has messaged Elon about this yet?

https://www.engadget.com/elon-musk-spacex-sexual-miisconduct-230458875.html

BC is surely abhorred by the thought of an alleged female victim's voice being silenced by a privileged male, right?

I trust he'll write a suitably scathing blog post at least. Ironically Mr Musk was just about to give BC his Twitter account back so that women need never feel silenced again.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 20, 2022, 01:17:27 AM
And with Burchill there were always signs that she was a conservative at heart, like when she said women shouldn't play rock music and it was like trying to piss standing up.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 20, 2022, 01:28:33 AM
Burchill is comically awful. She would probably take that as a compliment though, she seems to love that people find her hateful
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 20, 2022, 02:05:01 AM
Quote from: BigotsShouldWheest on May 20, 2022, 12:05:28 AMI saw that with sadness as the kind of person who once took a copy of Amiga Power to Bath, to read my favourite bits near where it was written originally. But it's such a damn, damn shame to see someone you had some respect for in childhood collapse into conspiracy theorising about Trans individuals using toilets as part of a massive, sinister campaign to abuse women.

At least Canoe Squad have never let you down.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: TommyTurnips on May 20, 2022, 02:33:15 AM
Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 19, 2022, 10:15:44 PMWhat is a woman? Oh,
A Hulkamaniac
She powerbombs motherfuckers into thumbtacks
People like her till they find out she's unstable
She Saboo'd your momma through a coffee table



Well he ain't a phoney
He'll walk up and bust a nut in your carbonara macaroni
And sit and watch you sit there and finish up the last bit
Because Shut UP Fuck OFF!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: BennyHedgehog on May 20, 2022, 04:50:10 AM
Quote from: BigotsShouldWheest on May 20, 2022, 12:05:28 AMRegarding Wreaths Over Scotsman's Career, it's a damn shame; he has done some brilliant, pro-consumer work over the years, but the signs were always there that he gets obsessional to the point of blindness, and it seems to have finally swallowed him whole.


I hope you're not talking about the various incarnations of FairPlay
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 20, 2022, 08:15:13 AM
Quote from: BigotsShouldWheest on May 20, 2022, 12:05:28 AMHis work in proving slot machines were advertising randomness when they were fixing the odds was, what ever your views on gambling (I loathe it and never play) was a genuinely good thing.
No it wasn't and I'll explain why:

I worked in the industry when this happened.  Fruit machines ALREADY DISPLAYED THE ODDS and had done so for many years, almost to the inception of them.  His whole 'case' revolved around 'I did a gamble on fruit machine emulator, used a saved state and when I gambled the other way it stitched me up'.  That's it.  No code review, no in depth examination of the odds on display.  He used an emulator that was created by enthusiasts which wasn't even accurate to a real machine, did a HI\LO gamble, went LO, lost the gamble, reloaded the save state and went HI and lost it again 'proving' nothing.

He acted like a massive fucking manbaby, screaming at anyone who would listen that the machines 'were stitching people up', when anybody who's ever played a fruitie can tell you THAT'S HOW THEY WORK.  They have a preset percentage they work towards, spread over ~1,000 games.  The official term for them is Amusement With Prizes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amusement_with_prize), because that's what they are., you put money in, see some flashy lights and it gives you 72-98% of your stake back.  So if you sat down and put £1000 into a £1 a go game that advertised 72% odds, you should get back £720.  Stu didn't understand this, nor did he seem to realise there is masses of government regulation on them anyway.   By law that specific class of machine can only offer odds as low as 72% and there are other restrictions regarding stake and jackpot size.

His campaign amounted to a set of words added to every machine glass to the effect of 'odds displayed may not be the odds of a single game', the actual odds and the gameplay remained unaltered.  His work in this area didn't benefit anyone except himself and did precisely fuck all to help with gambling addiction.  If he cared that much about it, he'd be banging on about FOBT's (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed_odds_betting_terminal) which were and still are a genuine addiction concern.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 20, 2022, 08:23:11 AM
WAF's "I wouldn't save a trans person from being hit by a bus and it's the TRAs fault" comment has had 16 likes and zero pushback from GL or anyone else
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Better Midlands on May 20, 2022, 08:51:34 AM
Jeremy Vine and all the other celebrities are going to look like Jimmy Savile when this is all over

(https://i.imgur.com/qwoUs6B.jpg)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 20, 2022, 09:02:37 AM
Honestly, fuck him for trivialising the Savile abuse so frequently and for using it in this way. It's disgusting.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 20, 2022, 09:56:49 AM
There's a couple I know socially, am not close friends with them. One of the couple has now started posting transphobic stuff on Facebook. A few weeks ago it was an extremely transphobic meme about Lea Thomas and yesterday it was a 'Ben Shapiro destroys transgenderism' clip. Neither has gotten any likes or comments. Weird to see someone be radicalised in real time and go from memes to Ben Shapiro in a few short weeks

Should I say anything?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Mindy Simmons on May 20, 2022, 09:58:12 AM
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 20, 2022, 09:02:37 AMHonestly, fuck him for trivialising the Savile abuse so frequently and for using it in this way. It's disgusting.

God, this. It is just foul.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: The Guppy on May 20, 2022, 10:06:04 AM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 20, 2022, 09:56:49 AMThere's a couple I know socially, am not close friends with them. One of the couple has now started posting transphobic stuff on Facebook. A few weeks ago it was an extremely transphobic meme about Lea Thomas and yesterday it was a 'Ben Shapiro destroys transgenderism' clip. Neither has gotten any likes or comments. Weird to see someone be radicalised in real time and go from memes to Ben Shapiro in a few short weeks

Should I say anything?
Do you socialise with them, or just see them around sometimes? I'd probably just unfriend them, or even just unfollow to avoid awkwardness. Because people never change their minds.

Then again, you did. I'm just a coward and a cunt!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 20, 2022, 10:09:46 AM
Quote from: The Guppy on May 20, 2022, 10:06:04 AMDo you socialise with them, or just see them around sometimes? I'd probably just unfriend them, or even just unfollow to avoid awkwardness. Because people never change their minds.

Then again, you did. I'm just a coward and a cunt!

I did change my mind but to be fair I never once posted anything TERF-y let alone Ben Shapiro!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 20, 2022, 10:11:32 AM
Why is it the 'sixth year'?  Did JK Rowling (JK Rowling) tweet something 6 years ago? 
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 20, 2022, 10:16:04 AM
Quote from: FalknerHinton on May 19, 2022, 10:50:34 PMWet Ass Ferguson has had enough (for now), though it's still all "the TRAs" fault somehow

Quote from: William FergusonWhich is why I have elected to step away from this for a bit because I am at the point where...well, let's just say my anger is spilling over to dangerously unhealthy levels and I find myself headed into a really dark place.

Quote from: William FergusonAllow me to put this another way:

While I wouldn't actually harm a trans person but if I saw one step out into traffic, about to get hit by an oncoming bus whereas I and I alone have the ability to reach out and pull them to safety it wouldn't be much of a dealbreaker for me if they just got hit by the bus.

And that's a very dark, ugly thing to think.

These TRAs really need to examine why someone like me would feel that way.

Maybe someone like you would think that way because you're a danger and need to get some professional help, William.

Nah, must be everyone else's fault. Time to take a million more selfies!
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 20, 2022, 08:23:11 AMWAF's "I wouldn't save a trans person from being hit by a bus and it's the TRAs fault" comment has had 16 likes and zero pushback from GL or anyone else

Seems the hit by a bus comment has been deleted but Jesus Christ, WAF is an actual danger to society. Extremely unwell.

Interesting the post that the comments originate from:

"I've run out of ways to persuade people they should care about this
Does anyone have any suggestions?"
by Graham Linehan

I thought the tide was turning? I thought everyone was about to be peaked and we can start thinking about when This is all over.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Kankurette on May 20, 2022, 10:17:12 AM
Ferguson is going to end up killing someone.
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 20, 2022, 01:28:33 AMBurchill is comically awful. She would probably take that as a compliment though, she seems to love that people find her hateful
She's like a little girl going 'look at me! Look at me!' It's like she comes out with the most contradictory opinions just to piss people off. If the left were pro-Israel she'd be wearing hijab and calling herself Khadijah.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 20, 2022, 10:22:13 AM
@retsuza the hit by a bus comment is still there, has 20 likes now and still zero pushback. A few weeks ago someone tore strips off another commenter for correctly gendering Debbie Hayton but no one bats an eyelid at this?

I know GL is now Mr Freeze Peach but he should at least moderate his comments section

@Kankurette she is like an overgrown schoolgirl trying to be edgy. Even her Twitter username is booze and fagz. Actually a lot of the GC leaders have never really grown up from their school days. Can you imagine being at school with Posie? She would have been the nastiest bully
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: YouCantWriteTearsJimmy on May 20, 2022, 10:30:21 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/njSb6Xf.png)

This is getting dark ... this has 20 likes. This guy is one bad day away from a rampage.

edit: Oh, this has been posted Sorry! i'll leave it up so people are in the loop.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: DreadedScotsman on May 20, 2022, 10:32:10 AM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 20, 2022, 09:56:49 AMThere's a couple I know socially, am not close friends with them. One of the couple has now started posting transphobic stuff on Facebook. A few weeks ago it was an extremely transphobic meme about Lea Thomas and yesterday it was a 'Ben Shapiro destroys transgenderism' clip. Neither has gotten any likes or comments. Weird to see someone be radicalised in real time and go from memes to Ben Shapiro in a few short weeks

Should I say anything?

I have a friend of the family who has posted some horrible transphobic articles that got zero interaction till her daughter commented on it to say the lack of interaction was proof that everyone agrees but was just too scared to say anything. So it can be tough, people try to argue back you get accused of beibg part of the problem and bullying, no-one argues back and it's proof everyone agrees.

The woman in question is in her late 60s and has been a friend of my mum for longer than I've been around and in all other regards would be considered a feminist, my mum and my sister have challenged her on these views in person and it never goes well, but there's no way that me as a cis het white dude can possibly say no you're doing feminism wrong.

If you know them well enough to post something countering it then it might be worth it or maybe do the trick of getting someone to explain why their joke is meant to be funny till they inevitably just say something direct.

I tend to counter posts from the family friend by posting trans positive stories or stories from trans people, not necessarily on their page but on my own, I know they still follow me so they'll see it and it has the advantage of making my views publicly known and let my trans friends know I'm still standing with them, especially when things are rough, that's never been my primary motive but I have had them message me and thank me for being vocal so I know it can help.
 
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 20, 2022, 10:37:30 AM
Quote from: YouCantWriteTearsJimmy on May 20, 2022, 10:30:21 AM(https://i.imgur.com/njSb6Xf.png)

This is getting dark ... this has 20 likes. This guy is one bad day away from a rampage.

edit: Oh, this has been posted Sorry! i'll leave it up so people are in the loop.

It's like a wife beater blaming the woman for "making him do it" with her behaviour. Fucking psychopathic
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 20, 2022, 10:40:00 AM
Quote from: YouCantWriteTearsJimmy on May 20, 2022, 10:30:21 AMThis is getting dark ... this has 20 likes. This guy is one bad day away from a rampage.

edit: Oh, this has been posted Sorry! i'll leave it up so people are in the loop.

Yes and another screenshot here just to show that Linehan will have seen it and chose not to remove it, unless he's responssible for the edit?

https://i.postimg.cc/1thnj99X/IMG-20220520-103313.jpg

Cause it appears that this is yer man when he's holding back:

(https://i.postimg.cc/90c4cJwj/IMG-20220520-103331.jpg)

Oh wow lol, this sounds like a riveting and not at all racist read:

(https://i.postimg.cc/1tqTyKhM/IMG-20220520-103717.jpg)

What a fucking shower of shite the glincels are.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 20, 2022, 10:40:27 AM
Ah ok @Ex_GC I thought the bus comment was deleted but it was farther down

(https://i.imgur.com/RFfSrPp.jpeg)

Considering the like on the reply, he MUST have seen it and thought it was fine. And yes the AUTHORITIES SHOULD BE CONCERNED!

ETA: Oops too slow but I took the time to upload so it will be corraborating evidence when Graham removes it. At least he should.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on May 20, 2022, 10:42:39 AM
Quote from: YouCantWriteTearsJimmy on May 20, 2022, 10:30:21 AM(https://i.imgur.com/njSb6Xf.png)

This is getting dark ... this has 20 likes. This guy is one bad day away from a rampage.

edit: Oh, this has been posted Sorry! i'll leave it up so people are in the loop.

It's giving "the government are making me racist by giving illegal immigrants jobs when I'm unemployed"
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: YouCantWriteTearsJimmy on May 20, 2022, 10:54:24 AM
How many people do you think Graham Linehan scared away from casual transphobia. I mean ... even people with "concerns" must see this and think "oh no ... you're not ok".
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Barry Admin on May 20, 2022, 10:55:03 AM
We've covered that WAF comment a lot because it is genuinely disturbing and shocking, but I think it's important to bear in mind that it's the exact kind of attitude that anti-trans campaigners like Graham Linehan and Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull have deliberately inculcated.

Linehan has this whole white knight bullshit, and over the last week or two he was once again saying that a protest may get violent, and so people's husbands and boyfriends should turn up. To look after the little ladies, bless 'em.

And of course, Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull said that she wants men to stand outside public toilets, armed with guns. Edit: sorry, she actually said she wants armed men to start using women's toilets (https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/01/30/gender-critical-feminist-posie-parker-men-guns-womens-toilets-twitter/), my mistake. I gave her too much credit.



Now, have a look at this:

Quote from: https://mobile.twitter.com/mimmymum/status/1527358665048588288?cxt=HHwWgICwraKnorIqAAAAWhile we're talking about 'gender critical' transphobes in Manchester and the Emmeline Pankhurst statute, it's worth remembering that the last time it was adorned with one of Kellie-Jay Keen's 'Adult Human Female' t-shirts, it helped inspire a transphobic arsonist!... 😳⤵️

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eu9AwNjXAAAZlPU?format=jpg&name=large)

Transphobic slur on this one
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eu9AwOBXcAMKbH2?format=jpg&name=large)
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Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 20, 2022, 10:57:38 AM
Yep and Graham did a whole speech about how women need to get angry and stay angry
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 20, 2022, 11:01:23 AM
Graham Linehan is a stochastic terrorist
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: phantom_power on May 20, 2022, 11:02:08 AM
That Penny tweet pretty much sums up their mentality. This is my experience and no-one else's could possibly be any different. Just a basic lack of empathy
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 20, 2022, 11:04:07 AM
Aidan Comerford tweeted about that WAF comment

https://twitter.com/AidanCTweets/status/1527546024985866241?t=-PJ29h3yStc-0PaffEizAQ&s=19

Ok wow. In response to WAF's comment about how he was taking a break from all of this because his mind was going into a dark place someone replied

"In this strange world of ours, we must look after our health. I think it's important to celebrate the wonderful people who are speaking up - including yourself - and take some time out to smell freshly cut grass and a few roses here and there. Plus a glass of wine or beer."

Wonderful people including yourself? Jesus

The man has imagined a scenario where he wouldn't save a trans person from death and he is "wonderful"?

What is wrong with some people?

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 20, 2022, 11:48:22 AM
talking of Comerford, Graham had a crack at getting people to pile on him last night

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTI-UBFVUAQOMBH.png)

complete gutless shit. do my bidding, mugs. i'll watch from behind the wall. actually don't do it. Should be good enough for the lawyers. (do it.)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: idunnosomename on May 20, 2022, 11:52:20 AM
Katy Montgomerie did a thread about Fergie the other day without the usual anonymising to her 64k followers. Not sure what this turd of a man thinks he's achieving except his own dragging
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 20, 2022, 11:55:59 AM
link?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: jobotic on May 20, 2022, 12:03:15 PM
I hope the black people of Buffalo have had a look at themselves to see what it is about them that made that man shoot some of them.

Fucking evil cunts.

I think WAF will hurt someone, probably already does.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 20, 2022, 12:03:26 PM
@Rich Uncle Skeleton Did any of the glincels reply to that tweet?

Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 20, 2022, 12:11:03 PM
Nope. Zero replies, two likes. BIG LEAGUES.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 20, 2022, 12:11:48 PM
Quote from: Ex_GC on May 20, 2022, 10:57:38 AMYep and Graham did a whole speech about how women need to get angry and stay angry

Most women don't give a monkeys though.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: FalknerHinton on May 20, 2022, 12:20:00 PM
I had an email from substack last night inviting me to complete a survey about their content guidelines enforcement. I suggested the best way they could improve would be if they actually bothered doing some enforcement, so who knows if they're going to start doing it. I doubt it, but stranger things have happened.

Anyway, for future reference WAF's comments are archived here (https://web.archive.org/web/20220520110206/https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/ive-run-out-of-ways-to-persuade-my/comments?s=r).
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 20, 2022, 12:28:27 PM
22 likes now. And not one single comment pushing back or calling it out
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: JaDanketies on May 20, 2022, 12:49:08 PM
Someone call The Jeremy Vine Show and inform him that Graham Linehan has published an article suggesting he is as bad as Jimmy Savile. I can't imagine that he wouldn't sue. And he's pretty centre-right and a popular and omnipresent media personality so it'd be a big blow against terfery
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ferris on May 20, 2022, 12:54:50 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 20, 2022, 08:51:34 AMJeremy Vine and all the other celebrities are going to look like Jimmy Savile when this is all over

(https://i.imgur.com/qwoUs6B.jpg)

"When it's all over"

What does that even mean? What a bleak existence.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: retsuza on May 20, 2022, 01:01:12 PM
Say what you want about cults like Heaven's Gate but at least they had a defined end date for their nonsense fantasy.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: shiftwork2 on May 20, 2022, 01:16:40 PM
Quote from: Ferris on May 20, 2022, 12:54:50 PM"When it's all over"

What does that even mean?

It's when all of Graham's detractors apologise to him before being jailed.

Graham decides not to accept the apologies.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ferris on May 20, 2022, 01:29:40 PM
Yeah but even he must know that's ludicrous, so presumably he thinks something else will happen that signifies "the end".

It's millenarian, but because there's no prophesied date so every day is the Great Disappointment (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Disappointment).
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 20, 2022, 01:35:41 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 20, 2022, 08:51:34 AMJeremy Vine and all the other celebrities are going to look like Jimmy Savile when this is all over

(https://i.imgur.com/qwoUs6B.jpg)
I love it. Asking for more info instead of taking some rando's tweet at face value is exactly the same as covering for a serial rapist.

Fuck you, Glinner. No wonder your wife left.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Dr Rock on May 20, 2022, 01:42:48 PM
Graham, closer to the point, there are is still widespread sexual abuse of minors. The police barely skim the surface. The Tories cut thousands of officers who could have been redeployed to go after them. What have you done to fight for more resources to catch paedophiles?
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: shiftwork2 on May 20, 2022, 01:49:56 PM
Quote from: Ferris on May 20, 2022, 01:29:40 PMYeah but even he must know that's ludicrous

I actually doubt this.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: imitationleather on May 20, 2022, 01:55:08 PM
Quote from: Ferris on May 20, 2022, 01:29:40 PMthe Great Disappointment (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Disappointment).

Funnily enough, that's what I call it when I see the last post on a thread was by @Ferris!
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: dead-ced-dead on May 20, 2022, 02:00:44 PM
Quote from: imitationleather on May 20, 2022, 01:55:08 PMFunnily enough, that's what I call it when I see the last post on a thread was by @Ferris!

Sick burn, bro.

(https://c.tenor.com/eVZ_uOSR7JsAAAAC/sick-burn.gif)
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: wrec on May 20, 2022, 02:01:54 PM
He'll be packing his bags for his big date GC pal meetup in Edinburgh this weekend.

And you never know who else he might run into while he's up there 😉
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 20, 2022, 02:02:26 PM
GL does not know what 'when this ends' looks like other than his fantasy of people apologising to him and telling him he was right all along etc etc. He hasn't thought about it any further than his day of reckoning
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: TommyTurnips on May 20, 2022, 02:04:06 PM
Quote from: Ferris on May 20, 2022, 12:54:50 PM"When it's all over"

What does that even mean? What a bleak existence.

Maybe when there is no more trans people? Which is a ridiculous thing to hope for because there has always been trans people and always will.

Then what? When that hypothetical day comes then what does Glinner do? Probably find something else to hate. Dwarfs living in houses that are too big for them, giants using toilets that are too small for them, disabled people using regular toilets. Loads of potential ways to be a shitty person.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: frajer on May 20, 2022, 02:05:05 PM
Quote from: wrec on May 20, 2022, 02:01:54 PMHe'll be packing his bags for his big date GC pal meetup in Edinburgh this weekend.

And you never know who else he might run into while he's up there 😉

"THERE'S A DIRECT FLIGHT FROM NORWICH."

The bana(na)lity of evil.
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ex_GC on May 20, 2022, 02:12:22 PM
Quote from: TommyTurnips on May 20, 2022, 02:04:06 PMMaybe when there is no more trans people? Which is a ridiculous thing to hope for because there has always been trans people and always will.

Then what? When that hypothetical day comes then what does Glinner do? Probably find something else to hate. Dwarfs living in houses that are too big for them, giants using toilets that are too small for them, disabled people using regular toilets. Loads of potential ways to be a shitty person.

When the imagined day comes he'll be so busy releasing new sitcoms, working on Pope Ted, all his former enemies will be begging him to work with them again now that he's been proven right. And he'll have his beloved blue tick back and constant coverage in the media "Graham Linehan Vindicated: Enemies Issue Grovelling Apology"
Title: Re: Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope
Post by: Ferris on May 20, 2022, 02:23:35 PM