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Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope

Started by Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse, May 03, 2022, 09:56:56 PM

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LemenTheGent

What a ghoul Glinner is. I genuinely believe he's homophobic too, as are many GCs IMO. They have no tolerance for anyone LGBTQ+, it's just that trans people are currently the easiest target.

Quote from: LemenTheGent on May 18, 2022, 02:54:37 PMWhat a ghoul Glinner is. I genuinely believe he's homophobic too, as are many GCs IMO.

The whole attack on Stonewall is incredibly homophobic.

phantom_power

Even if the incident happened exactly as The Times reports (which is incredibly unlikely, given how reality works) there is nothing wrong with Jones wanting to verify the facts. Only a diseased brain would see that as bullying the child. It is more bullying to bring her to national attention

Ex_GC

Owen Jones is perfectly correct when he says it's strange that the story doesn't feature any comment from the school

FalknerHinton

From the comments on that SGB post about Owen Jones:

Quote from: "Jill"Does anybody know the identity of the men who assaulted Owen Jones? I'd like to hear their side of the story.

As Jill has apparently never heard of Google, let's see what we can find for her...

Quote from: "The BBC"Following Healy's arrest, a search of his home revealed a photograph of him performing a Nazi salute.

The court heard the photo showed him as a teenager but had been printed out in 2015.

Healy, who has admitted affray and assault occasioning actual bodily harm, faced a trial of issue to determine his motivation for attacking Mr Jones.

In her ruling Judge Studd said that while it could not be proven Healy had been performing a Nazi salute in the photograph, she was "sure that [Healy] holds particular beliefs that are normally associated with the far right wing".

"I therefore propose to sentence Mr Healy on the basis that this was a wholly unprovoked attack on Mr Jones by reason of his widely published left-wing and LGBTQ beliefs by a man who has demonstrable right-wing sympathies," she said.

The court heard Healy has a string of convictions for football violence and is currently subject to a football banning order for encroaching on a pitch.

He also allegedly had a football hooligan flag adorned with SS symbols and a collection of pin badges linked to white supremacist groups.

There you go, Jill, you're welcome. That's the kind of person you want to hear "their side of the story" from, because you'd rather believe him than the victim, because Jones doesn't hate trans people.

Fuck you Jill, and fuck BC too.

phantom_power

That is a completely facile comparison as well because the Owen Jones assault isn't reported in just a single article with no attribution. It was reported in full in lots of places and the court outcome is public record

Ex_GC

That's what being GC does, it robs people of their empathy. They twist themselves into pretzels rather than show any empathy towards their 'enemy'

What Jill is trying to imply here is that Owen Jones did something to provoke the attack. 'Asking for it' is victim blaming and bigotry 101

The Guppy

Quote from: DreadedScotsman on May 18, 2022, 09:59:14 AMThere's no way he watched at the cinema it was released on vod in America this week so he'll have pirated it and sat at home leg twitching away, ready to pause it and scream about not defending JK Rowling
I know it's downloadable now, I just struggle to imagine him successfully torrenting stuff.

phantom_power

Quote from: Ex_GC on May 18, 2022, 03:32:16 PMThat's what being GC does, it robs people of their empathy. They twist themselves into pretzels rather than show any empathy towards their 'enemy'

What Jill is trying to imply here is that Owen Jones did something to provoke the attack. 'Asking for it' is victim blaming and bigotry 101

I don't think she is saying that. I think she is using the assault to make some kind of rubbish "no-one questions the veracity of that story so why question this" despite the differences that I mentioned in the post above.


I know it sounds a bit shit and cheesy but it all boils down to whether your dealings with people are based on love and understanding or fear and hate. Trans allies see trans people with compassion and empathy and TERFs see them with fear and hate. If we picture a trans person in our heads it is probably of a person just trying to get on with their lives in the best way they know how given their thoughts and feelings. TERFs see a bloke in a dress trying to terrorise women.

Ex_GC

TERFs have been told by GC cult leaders that trans women are perverts, mentally ill 'AGPs', predators etc etc. They've been conditioned by the cult leaders to fear them. It's very sad

jobotic

Quote from: phantom_power on May 18, 2022, 03:57:58 PMI know it sounds a bit shit and cheesy but it all boils down to whether your dealings with people are based on love and understanding or fear and hate. Trans allies see trans people with compassion and empathy and TERFs see them with fear and hate. If we picture a trans person in our heads it is probably of a person just trying to get on with their lives in the best way they know how given their thoughts and feelings. TERFs see a bloke in a dress trying to terrorise women.

But do they? I think they pretend to see that becuase they just love the hate. They get off on that sweet hate-ohol

Ex_GC

Some do obviously. But many do believe they are 'fighting for women and girls'. Remember that like any cults the GC leaders know the right things to say to keep people in a state of fear and panic

jobotic

We may mock the Ferguson Challenge but from what I've read of PMQs today we will soon see the PM use it when facing a difficult question about the cost of living.

Transphobes must be so happy witb him. Wonder if Duffield applauded.

Rich Uncle Skeleton



seriously though i'm sure there's a good concept album to be written here rather than just rewriting lyrics to one that already exists..

hexa

I know I'm 10 pages too late on this, but the whole black balaclava ninjas thing is a black bloc tactic. Common in any left-wing demo, in particular used by anti-fascists. The fact that the GCs and people like JKR especially don't know this shows how little they've been to protests outside their obsession.

And it is a good idea to obscure your identity like that, especially with the way "the opposition" act - doxxing on KF etc.

Bad optics? Media coverage is so unrelentingly trans-negative that at this point does it even matter how we dress/behave?

damien

I think there's a danger of me dying of hysterical laughter if the Musk deal doesn't happen and our hero gets left in limbo with a useless 800-follower Twitter account.

Dr Rock

It's looking less likely to happen. His Tesla stock is crashing since he said he'd buy Twitter

DreadedScotsman

Quote from: The Guppy on May 18, 2022, 03:42:21 PMI know it's downloadable now, I just struggle to imagine him successfully torrenting stuff.

I think torrenting is old enough that he'll have gotten to grips with it before the brainrot fully set in either thar or he's the only person still using lime wire and his pc is riddled with viruses and it was just porn he ended up getting and not the real film.

Quote from: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 18, 2022, 04:34:50 PM

seriously though i'm sure there's a good concept album to be written here rather than just rewriting lyrics to one that already exists..

But it was only fantasy
The wall was too high, as you can see
No matter how he tried, he could not break free
And the worms ate into his brain

RHX

Quote from: DreadedScotsman on May 18, 2022, 05:27:20 PMI think torrenting is old enough that he'll have gotten to grips with it before the brainrot fully set in either thar or he's the only person still using lime wire and his pc is riddled with viruses and it was just porn he ended up getting and not the real film.

Plus I doubt he'd know how to use a VPN so look forward to a future grief blog about how the evil TRAs stalked him by sending letters to his house from his ISP.

wrec

Funny how Rowling's history of domestic violence means she can bully with impunity, but Jones was the victim of a violent homophobic attack and is portrayed as a misogynist homophobe who's now bullying a child that probably doesn't exist (and if that's the case, many of those pushing the story know that). 

I was glad to see some Scottish sensible-Labour geezer I hadn't heard of get a lot of traction earlier for a tweet emphasising how transphobia is a rerun of the 80s homophobia he witnessed as a gay man. It can't be said enough and it's great to hear it coming from a side where opposition to transphobia isn't a given. Among the heartfelt supportive replies, the predictable smattering of transphobic dogma looks very ugly and cultish.

In the case of BC & co, I think there's little distinction to be made between their transphobia and homophobia. Even if some of the perpetrators are gay the tactics and rhetoric are exactly the same. BC is essentially an all-purpose bully, who has strange unexamined notions about women and gay people, exploits what he sees as vulnerabilities, using sexist and homophobic language if it suits him, even exploiting people's experiences of abuse to be hurtful.

On another tangent, seeing the stuff coming out in the Rooney / Vardy case makes me think how amazing it would be if key players chasing their day in court got their WhatsApp group messages aired in that context. Or, maybe that's just a bloodsport mentality, and it'd have little effect.

Rich Uncle Skeleton

Quote from: drummersaredeaf on May 18, 2022, 05:55:14 PMBut it was only fantasy
The wall was too high, as you can see
No matter how he tried, he could not break free
And the worms ate into his brain

haha exactly the song that made me think of him...I really REALLY hope I can listen to it without always thinking of him in future but there's definitely some parallels throughout the album with him.

Martin Van Buren Stan

Quote from: drummersaredeaf on May 18, 2022, 05:55:14 PMBut it was only fantasy
The wall was too high, as you can see
No matter how he tried, he could not break free
And the worms ate into his brain

Genuinely thought I'd clicked the football chants thread and reading this was a trip

mjwilson

Quote from: idunnosomename on May 18, 2022, 09:56:41 AMA dildo joke? Were they pointy dildos?

Also it's over two hours. Did he see the right film?

There's a fairly brief bit with dildos, but a much longer sequence where some employee-of-the-month awards shaped like
Spoiler alert
butt plugs
[close]
get used as such. I would have thought that would be more of a big deal to someone determined to be offended.

Not sure whether this fits the "he left after part 1" theory, I don't remember the chronology in enough detail.

Quote from: Martin Van Buren Stan on May 18, 2022, 06:28:13 PMGenuinely thought I'd clicked the football chants thread and reading this was a trip

I used to sing it when Charlie Adam was lining up a direct free kick.

Mister Six

Quote from: Kankurette on May 18, 2022, 01:15:51 AMJoke's on him, I'm bi. It's not an issue. Though seeing people purely in terms of whether they're fuckable or not is pretty gruesome.

I'm straight and I'd shag a trans woman. Because, you know, they're women. The problem is that saying this makes me sound like a marginally different kind of laddish dickhead, doesn't it?

Mister Six

Quote from: Ex_GC on May 18, 2022, 09:19:50 AMI'm not clever enough to think of something catchy but please can self-satisfied porn culture wankfest make it into a thread title in some way 🤣

Nothing Nowhere All At Once might work.

Or Nothing Nowhere Slowly Over Several Years, if you want to be accurate, but that kind of distracts from the reference.

filthytrans

I don't know if everyone's heard, but Wings over Scotland is back on twitter, the shithead.

FalknerHinton

Quote from: filthytrans on May 18, 2022, 07:27:03 PMI don't know if everyone's heard, but Wings over Scotland is back on twitter, the shithead.

Is it a new account? @RevStu and @WingsScotland still show as suspended.

Juan K Perros

Quote from: FalknerHinton on May 18, 2022, 07:47:40 PMIs it a new account? @RevStu and @WingsScotland still show as suspended.

This looks like it - https://mobile.twitter.com/TheGhostOfWings - joined a couple of days ago. All I saw was RTs which made it hard to know - particularly given the handle sounds a bit pisstakey - but then this tweet sounds exactly like the rat-toothed wankstain.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheGhostOfWings/status/1526695547117129728

ETA - replies certainly seem to confirm lots of folks think it's him. Followers list consists of the usual gang of non wheeshters and ABLA types who've got their name on the volunteer boaby-checkers signup sheet.