Inside No9 series 7

[idunnosomename]

Yeah, I did wonder what the reaction from Welsh people would be and whether you'd find it offensive. Though if they'd set it in Hull they'd be called classist or something. Somewhere rural in Cheshire or Yorkshire, maybe?

Well Shearsmith is from Hull. Pemberton is from Blackburn, so also could set it round there. If you're from there at least you're not appropriating an identity for the sole purpose of poking fun.

And i dont think the school can be seen as a positive against a sanctimonious lecturing city boy on medication. They are a gaslighting murderous cult!

[kitsofan34]

Pemberton's Welsh at the beginning was terrible.

[daf]

Nicolas Cage one

I actually enjoyed that one - I think they had a Queen bee motif running through it.

I think Cage

Spoiler alert

ends up with his head stuck into a big rugby ball shaped bee hive . . . Or possibly covered in honey (in the nude) and stung to death

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- something like that anyway (it's been a while since I saw it!)

[Glebe]

[somersetchris]

All this Wicker Man talk has me in the mood for a rewatch.  I see I have theatrical edition, director's cut and final cut to choose between,  anyone have strong opinions on the best version?

Whichever one is the longest (director's cut, I think). The original film was 99 minutes and was cut to pieces by the studio prior to release. As far as anyone is aware, no remaining copy of this film exists, so every subsequent cut has been an attempt to restore as much as possible from other sources. Every now and again a slightly different version crops up and another restoration process begins.

I think the Director's Cut is about 95 minutes, and is the closest to the original version. However the Final Cut, which is shorter, was cut by Hardy himself (so is also a director's cut!), for an earlier re-release. Personally I would want to watch whichever is the longer, although one day I need to watch the two later versions and see what the differences are.

[somersetchris]

Today I learned that The Wicker Man was initially released as a b-movie supporting Don't Look Now. What a bonkers night out that must have been.

[Zetetic]

Kinda forgot about it by the conclusion, but first thing I thought was setting a bunch of cultish weirdos in rural Wales was a bit mean of them, a typical "backwards sheepshaggers" from the English on Welsh culture.

Why not set it in Hull? Turn tropes on its head a bit and not come off as xenophobic?

Also one reference to Welsh language but then everything was in English. Have they been to Wales?

The reference to Ofsted suggests that this is actually a Welsh-speaking community in England.

[Zetetic]

And John Barleycorn isn't a very Welsh reference, is it?

[pk1yen]

https://deadline.com/2022/05/amazon-freevee-bosch-legacy-renewed-season-2-inside-no-9-1235014394/amp/

So, looks like Inside No 9 is getting ... a US remake ... ?

[zomgmouse]

https://deadline.com/2022/05/amazon-freevee-bosch-legacy-renewed-season-2-inside-no-9-1235014394/amp/

So, looks like Inside No 9 is getting ... a US remake ... ?

how odd. are they going to remake existing episodes? write new ones all set in a 9? also: why?

[Excellent_Biscuits]

I love everything they have ever done but personally I thought that were rubbish.

[Noodle Lizard]

Mm, it's been diminishing returns for me for a while now, but I also can't fathom how difficult it must be to come up with so many different self-contained plots and characters (and then write the scripts and play them too!) Still, it's the longest-running thing they've done by some margin, and luckily lesser episodes/seasons can't negatively impact the better ones.

I do wonder if it might have been best to do them more sporadically - maybe one or two a year as "specials" rather than full seasons - but then of course we'd be complaining about that too!

[olliebean]

I feel dirty for using marketing speak, but does the Inside No 9 "brand" have any "cut through" in the US? If not, I presume they're just doing remakes of UK episodes, because otherwise, why not just do their own thing? They're either paying for the name or the scripts, presumably.

[Kankurette]

The reference to Ofsted suggests that this is actually a Welsh-speaking community in England.

Herefordshire?

[Virgo76]

how odd. are they going to remake existing episodes? write new ones all set in a 9? also: why?

Why not?
I wonder how far Steve and Reece will be/are involved?

[bgmnts]

First episode was pure dogshit.

And yeah Pemberton's Welsh was crap obviously but not an issue. The backwards rural Wales thing is whatever but eh a bit rubbish.

Unsure where a Welsh speaking English school would be, perhaps Oswestry or something.

[El Unicornio, mang]

I feel dirty for using marketing speak, but does the Inside No 9 "brand" have any "cut through" in the US? If not, I presume they're just doing remakes of UK episodes, because otherwise, why not just do their own thing? They're either paying for the name or the scripts, presumably.

Quite a few of my friends in the US watch it, it got a couple of write-ups on some big American online publications like the NY Times and NY Post, Salon etc and positive word of mouth. Definitely a relatively small cult following but enough for a bit of a fanbase.

I wouldn't mind a series done of it in America with Pemberton and Shearsmith starring just for the new locations/ideas it could open up. Remaking the same stories with different actors seems a bit pointless but they've been doing that shit for years with British shows. Has maybe worked well once (The Office).

[Brundle-Fly]

I look forward to seeing the U.S. version of the 'Sardines' episode called 'Canned Albercore' set in an old plantation mansion in Kentucky with John Lithgow in the Timothy West role.

[Noodle Lizard]

Of course the Duplass brothers had a similarish show on HBO already, Room 104 (although each episode was set in the same location), itself similar to a little-known David Lynch show from the 90s called Hotel Room.

So the concept alone isn't exactly a revelation over here, and Inside No 9 itself has been on HBO Max and has amassed a certain amount of attention. I think the thing that most impresses newcomers is how talented Shearsmith/Pemberton are as actors and how uniquely funny their dialogue and characters are rather than the ideas themselves, so a US version seems utterly pointless.

I'm glad they'll probably make some Hollywood money off it, more than deserved, but even if I never watch more than one of them it'll always be a bit of a shame to know it exists - worse still if it means Americans will be more likely to ignore the original (see also: Ghosts).

[kalowski]

I really liked Merrily Merrily. Thought Mr King was alright even if no school in the universe could really exist like that. Where were the other teachers.
And that's not how superglue works. But even with that, it was suitably creepy.

[Glebe]

Where were the other teachers.

Fertilising the field I'd imagine.

[Johnny Yesno]

Kinda forgot about it by the conclusion, but first thing I thought was setting a bunch of cultish weirdos in rural Wales was a bit mean of them, a typical "backwards sheepshaggers" from the English on Welsh culture.

In that case, surely you could make the same criticism of The Wicker Man with respect to Scottish island folk.

[Zetetic]

Doesn't the The Wicker Man make some effort to engage with both actual Scottish folklore and stereotypes of Scottish folklore (which might be inaccurate but at least represent some interest in it)?

My partner reminded me of Gwledd/The Feast (2021), which neither of us think is a great film (although I liked it a lot right up until it insisted on explaining the bleeding obvious) but plays in a vaguely similar area to this episode in much more interesting ways.

Spoiler alert

Noting that it's more fantastical, and - very deliberately - not folk-sy in the way that this episode or The Wicker Man are.

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[danwho9]

Kinda forgot about it by the conclusion, but first thing I thought was setting a bunch of cultish weirdos in rural Wales was a bit mean of them, a typical "backwards sheepshaggers" from the English on Welsh culture.

Not to mention the antiquated classroom design and dress code etc. I initially assumed it must be set in the 70s/80s until the Greta references etc.

[Johnny Yesno]

Doesn't the The Wicker Man make some effort to engage with both actual Scottish folklore and stereotypes of Scottish folklore (which might be inaccurate but at least represent some interest in it)?

I don't think so. It's a pretty bloody stupid film in which the most notable murder is Ewar Woowar's Scottish accent.

[Kankurette]

I really liked Merrily Merrily. Thought Mr King was alright even if no school in the universe could really exist like that. Where were the other teachers.
And that's not how superglue works. But even with that, it was suitably creepy.

They did also have an episode with a vampire policeman, a man who couldn't die, and a liftman who was actually Satan, they're not exactly going for realism here.

[Virgo76]

First episode was pure dogshit.

And yeah Pemberton's Welsh was crap obviously but not an issue. The backwards rural Wales thing is whatever but eh a bit rubbish.

Unsure where a Welsh speaking English school would be, perhaps Oswestry or something.

It really wasn't dogshit.
Neither of the episodes  so far have been flawless but neither deserve to be dismissed as rubbish either. They really were not.
Annette Badland was great in episode 2 also. Nobody's mentioned that yet have you, you bunch of sexist pigs?

[danwho9]

No wonder so few Badlands post here.

[Zetetic]

My partner reminded me of Gwledd/The Feast (2021), which neither of us think is a great film (although I liked it a lot right up until it insisted on explaining the bleeding obvious) but plays in a vaguely similar area to this episode in much more interesting ways.

Also had R.S. Thomas's Welsh Summer (1975) rattling around in my head, in particular the closing lines:

It is the machine wins;
the land suffers the formication
of its presence. Places that would have preferred peace
have had their bowels opened; our
children paddle thoughtlessly there in the mess.

[MigraineBoy]

If anyone is interested Google Play have fucked up & uploaded Wise Owl.