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A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2

Started by Fambo Number Mive, April 19, 2022, 01:46:53 PM

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Goldentony

nice chips in Welshpool in that place that's where the cinema used to be, good choice from Sunak

Bernice

Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 25, 2022, 08:18:25 PMYou know it's much more efficient skewering these twats by saying yes of course we should vote for anyone that can get rid of these utter arseholes but it just begs the question why you didn't have the foresight or couldn't see this before what you were pissing your knickers over Corbyn.

Knickers! Like a girl wears!


shoulders

QuotePaul Johnson, director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, said it was important most of the government support was targeted at those on the lowest incomes.

He told the BBC offering a universal payment would mean a lot of the money would go to households who "don't desperately need it".

He also warned putting billions of pounds into the economy at a time when prices were rising quickly "could stoke additional demand and make inflation much more permanent".

Even with the energy bill savings prices will still have risen and people's earnings are not keeping track with inflation meaning they are worse off so that's a tosser thing to say.

Also, if it were means tested many people would lose out through not being able to do the paperwork or through error, and setting up that bureaucracy would be expensive. Just like universal basic income you're saving by not setting that up and simply giving everyone the money.

Johnson reaches for socialism to save his arse once again.

Fambo Number Mive

Tory MPs John Baron and David Simmonds have just called for Johnson to resign.

How many of these MPs are actually sending letters to the 1922 committee though?


Mr_Simnock

Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on May 26, 2022, 10:41:11 AMTory MPs John Baron and David Simmonds have just called for Johnson to resign.

How many of these MPs are actually sending letters to the 1922 committee though?



they are looking into it, are strongly considering it, amlost certainly going to do it, posibly waiting for the outcome of the 2 by ellections in June first, but rest assured it's an option they are certainly planning to implement when the war in ukrain is over

pigamus

If both of the by-elections are bad I think something might happen. Not holding my breath but I get the feeling even the bastards have had enough.

shoulders

I don't know how long these centrist pundits need to keep losing and keep having their pants pulled over their head to realise that maybe the world no longer follows these rules and strictures  and all it takes is someone like Trump or Johnson to disregard them (along with countless historic examples) , so we are all to blame for not having developed a system of greater accountability. The centre liberals have always defended the existing system that supports their economic interests while it rotted from the inside. Welcome to the rotting carcass you fools.

Mr_Simnock

Quote from: pigamus on May 26, 2022, 10:58:59 AMIf both of the by-elections are bad I think something might happen. Not holding my breath but I get the feeling even the bastards have had enough.

johnson won't resign, even if they get 0 votes, he will have to be forced out

pigamus

Oh no, he won't resign. But the cunts really do think they're going to lose the next election now, or at least get fucked back into Theresa May territory. I think they'd do it today if they could agree on a candidate to replace him.

Fambo Number Mive


Mr_Simnock

Quote from: pigamus on May 26, 2022, 11:07:38 AMOh no, he won't resign. But the cunts really do think they're going to lose the next election now, or at least get fucked back into Theresa May territory. I think they'd do it today if they could agree on a candidate to replace him.

agree, I really hope they get an absolute arse kicking in june and then I can enjoy the show of a big toddler getting forced out getting started at least (although you never know they might just stick with the man child until the next ellection)

Fambo Number Mive

Are the Tories likely to lose the next election with Johnson as leader now the requirements for photo ID will make it harder for people who cannot afford passports and who don't drive (people less likely to vote Tory) to vote? Also, Kier Starmer's awfulness is a gift to the Tories. Who is inspired by Kier Starmer?


Cerys

Quote from: Goldentony on May 25, 2022, 09:16:23 PMnice chips in Welshpool in that place that's where the cinema used to be, good choice from Sunak

That's where I first saw Flatliners.  Maybe it's an omen.


Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on May 26, 2022, 11:31:45 AMAre the Tories likely to lose the next election with Johnson as leader now the requirements for photo ID will make it harder for people who cannot afford passports and who don't drive (people less likely to vote Tory) to vote? Also, Kier Starmer's awfulness is a gift to the Tories. Who is inspired by Kier Starmer?

As we saw in the States, it's less about electing someone exciting and inspiring and more about electing someone who doesn't think things like pandemics, recessions and wars are all a big laugh.

Fambo Number Mive

All the centrists bigging up Rory Stewart on Twitter again.

Voting record from TheyWorkForYou:

QuoteAlmost always voted against increasing the tax rate applied to income over £150,000

Generally voted against a banker's bonus tax

Almost always voted for more restrictive regulation of trade union activity

Consistently voted against an annual tax on the value of expensive homes (popularly known as a mansion tax)

Generally voted against a publicly owned railway system

Almost always voted against slowing the rise in rail fares

Almost always voted against greater public control of bus services

Consistently voted for replacing Trident with a new nuclear weapons system

Voted against investigations into the Iraq war

Consistently voted for fewer MPs in the House of Commons

Consistently voted against a wholly elected House of Lords

Consistently voted against restrictions on fees charged to tenants by letting agents

Consistently voted against greater regulation of gambling

Generally voted for the policies included in the 2010 Conservative - Liberal Democrat Coalition Agreement

Generally voted for the privatisation of Royal Mail

Consistently voted against raising welfare benefits at least in line with prices

Almost always voted against paying higher benefits over longer periods for those unable to work due to illness or disability

Generally voted for reducing housing benefit for social tenants deemed to have excess bedrooms (which Labour describe as the "bedroom tax")

Almost always voted for a reduction in spending on welfare benefits

Almost always voted for reducing the rate of corporation tax

Consistently voted for stronger enforcement of immigration rules

Consistently voted for a stricter asylum system

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24964/rory_stewart/penrith_and_the_border/votes

The centrists should be made to explain why they think a person who votes in this way should be Prime Minister.

bUt hE lOvEs tHe EU


Butchers Blind

He did smoke some hashish while getting lost in Afghanistan. GBoL

bgmnts

Quote from: Fambo Number Mive on May 26, 2022, 11:56:33 AMAll the centrists bigging up Rory Stewart on Twitter again.

Voting record from TheyWorkForYou:

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24964/rory_stewart/penrith_and_the_border/votes

The centrists should be made to explain why they think a person who votes in this way should be Prime Minister.

bUt hE lOvEs tHe EU

We've established the centrist is essentially the tory but lacking the character to be such a bastard. I dont know why people give centrists this level of leeway and credit.

pigamus


Zero Gravitas


Fambo Number Mive

Quote from: bgmnts on May 26, 2022, 12:51:36 PMWe've established the centrist is essentially the tory but lacking the character to be such a bastard. I dont know why people give centrists this level of leeway and credit.

For me it's more about holding them to account, it annoys me how many centrists hide behind their "sensible" persona and pretend they are the moderate choice when they back people like Stewart.

pigamus


TrenterPercenter

Quote from: bgmnts on May 26, 2022, 12:51:36 PMWe've established the centrist is essentially the tory but lacking the character to be such a bastard. I dont know why people give centrists this level of leeway and credit.

Because it's stupid.  Devolving people down to some fabled archetypal tory even within tory voters is problematic, there is obviously a spectrum for baby eaters to free market I'm alright jacks to law and order traditionalists.  There is this childlike view that people that don't support Corbyn (and we've even seen people that do/did support him but not enough) being called tories.  It's less about giving leeway and credit but having a more nuanced view on the world, mainly for purposes of progressing leftwing views.

Centrism isn't really a thing there is no "centrist party" they tried it and it failed remember, what you have is a lot of well off commentators on twitter, that because their feet are further away from the fire don't have the same focus of mind as those that do.  Likewise those with their feet closest to the fire invariably also make reactive, poor decisions and all too often cannibalise their own.  Just another one of the divisions the ultimately powerful people benefit from.  In reality the centrists many people obsess about on here (and I understand why, better the devil you know, but this again is just another helpful division) are just politically naive and are lacking in ideology, but have a platform (something we learnt about JOB for example from his interview with Owen Jones, he is an idiot, likely formed from years at boarding school where he learnt the pitfalls of ideology from elite theory and from the outside, but never understood it's necessitating role in survival for those less privileged - also see his inability to empathises with those people ideologically driven by things like Brexit).  Normally in politics you earn platforms from ideology but this is the world now of Twitter where anyone with something to flog that will get them followers can tell us all their political insights.

I'd say centrism is a lack of ideology above all else.  Also twitter is a magnifying glass for these people, I mean shock horror that a load of comedian, actors and musicians turned out to be narcissists on twitter with crap politics, perhaps artists shouldn't always be held in such esteem (celebritised) in the first place? Over people that humbly go about their business actually making sure the country doesn't collapse in on itself.


Blumf

Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 26, 2022, 01:27:03 PMthere is no "centrist party"

Um.. the Liberal Democrats? (itself formed from the Liberal Party and the centrist Labour breakaway Social Democratic Party). Remember how it was the party to happily cosy up to the Tories back in 2010.

TrenterPercenter

Quote from: Blumf on May 26, 2022, 01:37:35 PMUm.. the Liberal Democrats? (itself formed from the Liberal Party and the centrist Labour breakaway Social Democratic Party). Remember how it was the party to happily cosy up to the Tories back in 2010.

Hmmm, not really(ish), but I was more referring to the Nando Coalition (CUKs), the Lib Dems have been around a lot longer than the notion of centrism which is something different in my opinion.



Paul Calf

Ona serious note, does Rory Stewart have a proper condition of some sort? He looks anaemic or deficient in something1


1Lol empathy amirite?