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Quote from: flotemysost on June 29, 2022, 06:25:39 PMThis is properly cracking me up I'm afraid. I went to a secular school tbf but I've never heard that one before, even on unhinged online comments sections etc.
Quote from: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 28, 2022, 11:46:29 PMIn Catholic school I was told abortion was a "slippery slope" issue...
Quote from: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 28, 2022, 11:46:29 PMIn Catholic school I was told abortion was a "slippery slope" issue
Quote from: Kankurette on June 29, 2022, 09:12:04 PMOh, fucking hell, I know the Tories have a forced-birther contingent but they're not seriously going to make it illegal here too, are they? Because if they are, I'm getting sterilised.
Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on June 29, 2022, 09:47:18 PMWhether or not a foetus has personhood or even importance is up to the person who is pregnant. There are pregnant people for whom a miscarriage is a relief. There are people who aborted a badly-wanted pregnancy because the foetus had a condition that was incompatible with life. People who have abortions shouldn't have to justify themselves and all the bullshit about "oh they'll abort it to go on holiday" shows a fundamental mistrust of women.
QuoteYou may be more likely to be accepted for the operation if you're over 30 and have had children.
Quote from: bgmnts on June 29, 2022, 10:19:33 PMAs if they'll let you.
Quote from: Kankurette on June 29, 2022, 09:12:04 PMbut they're not seriously going to make it illegal here too, are they?
Quote from: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1990/37/section/37#commentary-c271685Subject to the provisions of this section, a person shall not be guilty of an offence under the law relating to abortion when a pregnancy is terminated by a registered medical practitioner if two registered medical practitioners are of the opinion, formed in good faith—(a)that the pregnancy has not exceeded its twenty-fourth week and that the continuance of the pregnancy would involve risk, greater than if the pregnancy were terminated, of injury to the physical or mental health of the pregnant woman or any existing children of her family; or(b)that the termination is necessary to prevent grave permanent injury to the physical or mental health of the pregnant woman; or(c)that the continuance of the pregnancy would involve risk to the life of the pregnant woman, greater than if the pregnancy were terminated; or(d)that there is a substantial risk that if the child were born it would suffer from such physical or mental abnormalities as to be seriously handicapped.
Quote from: Astronaut Omens on June 29, 2022, 05:02:47 PMThere's been a mistake and some kind of heavy vehicle is speeding down train tracks towards a place where 10 workers are on the track. If you do nothing all 10 workers will be killed. You can save them by pulling a lever which will divert the train onto another track. On this track there's 1 person working. That worker will be killed if you pull the lever.What's the right thing to do and why? What's wrong with doing nothing? Do you have a duty to pull the lever? If you pull the lever does that make you more responsible for the 1 workers death than it would be if you just let the 10 workers die?It's a series of debates around that abstract situation and others like it intended to help people express what they believe about intervening and not-intervening in life and death situations, and about the life of 1 versus the life of many.
Quote from: Ferris on June 30, 2022, 01:58:20 AMGood article on all this
Quote from: Blumf on June 29, 2022, 06:58:15 PMHummm... similarly you could make a 'slippery slope' argument that reducing a person's bodily autonomy in the case of pregnancy would eventually lead to forced organ harvesting for the greater good (I know there's been some philosophers who've put that kind of reasoning to the test, similar to the trolley problem™)Could somebody whip that half formed thought into a cogent argument and test it on some right wing religious nut jobs please.
Quote from: Johnny Yesno on June 30, 2022, 07:09:40 AMThe trolley problem I'm more familiar with is the problem of balancing while putting my underwear on in the morning.
Quote from: flotemysost on June 29, 2022, 09:10:06 PMNot sure it's been mentioned yet, but Dominic Raab has suggested that UK abortion rights will not be enshrined in law in the new British Bill of Rights.Not really a shocker, tbh.
Quote from: Zero Gravitas on June 30, 2022, 02:23:52 AMCute how it frames it as an insincere rightist ab-use of document cobbled together by tax evaders.Not a whif of half a century of lack of legal enshrinement that was begged for as the court teeted over, although it was promised and repeatedly fundraised on (a huge reported spike in democratic party donations after the draft was leaked and Biden promised legal changes).
Quote from: Ferris on June 30, 2022, 11:05:30 AMRe: enshrining abortion in federal law, I don't think that's an option now is it? The judicial branch has explicitly said it's not a right so surely it would be struck down and *nudge nudge wink wink* "returned to the states" the second it was challenged.
Quote from: steve98 on June 30, 2022, 09:31:00 AMDo you know what part of a train (Or trolley on rails) is always moving in the opposite direction to the direction of travel?
Quote(I'll let you think about it.)
Quote from: Zero Gravitas on June 30, 2022, 11:36:05 AMNow, no, but in more balanced times a prohibition against state governments preventing access to medical care, and preventing them from requiring medically unnecessary steps to obtain medical care, would have been effective against the tick tock tactics of recent years.
QuoteI just graduated from college with a degree in Business and consider myself an Independent at the moment. When I was in my university I felt I was being indoctrinated, I was being put into identity boxes and told to fall in line, or face being excommunicated socially. Eventually, I had enough and had to start standing for diversity of thought, and common sense. I support FUNDING the police because I come from a military family, and I know the struggle of having my dad put his life on the line for our freedom. I support FREEDOM OF SPEECH and am against censorship because this is the United States of America, not China. I support border walls because I'm an immigrant and I know firsthand the struggles of immigrants coming here legally to provide a better life for their families, and a country with no walls is not a country. I support a limited government because I believe people should be able to make their own decisions which is why I'm against vaccine and mask mandates. I want our youth to be EDUCATED in the ranks of China and other developed nations, our youth due to lockdowns and activist teachers are being taught to hate themselves if they're white, and consider themselves oppressed if they're black. Inflation, gas prices, the border crisis, foreign policy failures, and crime are plaguing our nation due to horrible policies put into place by the Biden administration and radical District Attorneys all across the country. I know I'm not the only one waking up to all of this, there are many in my shoes who are afraid to speak out because they don't want to be canceled, and I will be a voice for them."I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." –Martin Luther King, Jr.
Quotetoday we will be discussing the unraveling of American society into a godless society of abortions and rainbow cults.
QuoteI support FUNDING the police because I come from a military family
Quote from: touchingcloth on June 30, 2022, 09:15:06 PMReagan wanted to use Born in the USA as his campaign song.
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