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Started by Rev+, July 01, 2022, 12:45:19 AM
Quote from: Rev+ on July 01, 2022, 12:45:19 AMThis is mainly a run-up to a very minor anecdote, but bear with.My other half spent years training as a counsellor, and as a result CBT will never be of any use to me should I need it. We talked about it so much during her studies I'm too familiar with both the back and the front of it. It's also an extremely unhealthy approach but that's another thread.
Quote from: Rev+ on July 02, 2022, 12:03:40 AMCBT does have its uses but it's used far too broadly, at least in the UK, as both a default and final option for mental health treatment.
Quote from: Rev+ on July 02, 2022, 12:03:40 AMdo have a general problem with CBT, though, in that it minimises actual problems and pushes them back on the patient. Nothing is a real problem, it's all about how you interpret it. So your electricity isn't getting get cut off because you cant afford the bill. Your legs still work after the accident, so you can make it upstairs to the bathroom. Everything's okay, as long as you change your attitude.
Quote from: Rev+ on July 02, 2022, 12:03:40 AMCBT does have its uses but it's used far too broadly, at least in the UK,
Quote from: Zetetic on July 02, 2022, 10:04:58 AMWorth being clear that England's emphasis on CBT, its mass-implementation as something heavily manualised and given by people with very limited training, and the idea that these things would "pay for themselves" by getting malingerers back into work are unique in the UK.
Quote from: Zetetic on July 02, 2022, 11:12:01 AMEdit: This might be important to understanding why some people have come to despise "CBT" so much - rather than (in what might be taken as a joke in other circumstances) suggesting it's because those people simply weren't good enough to engage with CBT properly.
Quote from: Kankurette on July 02, 2022, 11:10:05 AMIt has worked for me, but that's because it was focused on changing destructive behavioural and thought patterns, not 'just think yourself out of your depression and everything will be fine'. And that was what I was aiming for, I wanted to change because I've lost friends and wanted to break the cycle of destruction, and I've done things like quitting Facebook and cutting down on the number of Space gigs I go to and trying not to place so much worth on the opinion of a man who only acknowledges my existence when it's convenient for him. That doesn't mean it's going to work for everyone and tbh I do find it a bit weird about CBT being recommended for things like ME or fibromyalgia. Unless it involves adapting your lifestyle. My pain is not all in my head.
Quote from: Kankurette on July 02, 2022, 06:17:48 PMI can't believe you got penalised for going to a loved one's funeral. That's awful.
Quote from: Mr Vegetables on July 03, 2022, 12:01:13 AMI'm not really wild about being compared to a racist for saying all this; that seems a bit off really.
Quote from: Dr Rock on July 03, 2022, 10:38:56 AMI've not had great experiences with CBT, how do other countries deal with people who are down in the dumps? (@Zetetic)
Quote from: bgmnts on July 03, 2022, 11:01:15 AMIf the world is not worth living in due to all the suffering in it, just think positively.
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