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Started by Blue Jam, July 29, 2018, 02:09:02 PM
Quote from: Replies From View on May 12, 2022, 06:30:31 PMThe dynamic was always Gervais + Merchant calling Pilkington an idiot.
Quote from: checkoutgirl on May 12, 2022, 04:11:52 PM
QuoteNearly twenty years on and Gervais' act is still made out of bits of my old stuff, either verbatim, or re-jigged and retooled for his own evil alt-right-light purposes. I didn't realise asking if I could quote his praise of me on a poster seventeen years ago meant I had entered a Faustian pact.
Quote from: mr. logic on May 12, 2022, 06:23:50 PMThis certainly wasn't true in the XFM podcasts. Merchant routinely pointed out that Gervais was trying to engineer that with Pilkington as the Hammond figure.
Quote from: DJ Bob Hoskins on May 12, 2022, 10:06:02 PM(^ For a split second I thought the magazine was called DEREK, but alas not)
Quote from: Blue Jam on May 13, 2022, 07:33:11 PM...except all these other comedy peeps look cool as fuck, like they're not taking themselves seriously and not even trying to look cool, or sexy, or make a profound statement, or whatever. They're sure as hell not smouldering into the lens either. Gervais really never could get away with this. Why is that?
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Quote from: Blue Jam on May 13, 2022, 07:33:11 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on May 22, 2022, 06:00:38 PMactually the wings kinda look like sanitary towels
Quote from: willbo on May 22, 2022, 07:00:44 AMI think it's because those comedians all look basically high-self-esteem and/or attractive, and they're deprecating themselves but you can see that they have confidence to spare and the self-deprecation isn't really touching their self image. Wheras you don't have to look very hard into Gervais' interviews/routines to find that he feels bad about his weight struggles
QuoteHe doesn't have the self-esteem to spare to comfortably mock himself, he needs to be a cool rock star comedian - preferably with a victim like Ince or Karl to project his self hate onto.
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on May 22, 2022, 06:21:20 PMWillbo touched on it pretty well, but it's worth repeating: Gervais is incredibly thin skinned so in all of his photos he's cosplaying as a dictator or giving the finger to the camera.He's playing dress up as "the coolest guy on earth (TM)" because he's desperate to not be seen as anything less. So in none of the photos is he self deprecating or self mocking, because then he'd have to depict himself as not the coolest guy on earth.
Quote from: BritishHobo on May 22, 2022, 10:56:17 AMAnd as Talking Funny showed, he's so hung-up on maintaining a justification for his bigoted humour. All other edgy comedians are carefree because they need no further excuse for making horrible jokes about minority groups beyond "it's funny". Gervais has to eternally convince himself that his jokes are actually clever brilliant ironies that show up that the attitudes he revels in aren't okay. Even though he does it anyway. He's incapable of admitting he just finds disabled people inherently funny because they're different. Whereas someone like Dave Chapelle has no issue hammering trans people with obsessively horrible jokes without needing to self-justify why he does it.
Quote from: Blue Jam on May 22, 2022, 08:08:06 PMSeriously, five separate photoshoots- a bit much, no?
Quote from: willbo on May 22, 2022, 08:23:30 PMI saw this clip from one his live shows where he was doing some sort of fake African accent. He reassured the audience that he had a point and quipped "one false move and I'm Jim Davidson". But I didn't watch it long enough to get the point.
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 22, 2022, 08:54:57 PMThis bollocks was mentioned but we need to see it again:
Quote from: DigForVictory on May 23, 2022, 01:08:07 AMThe double whammy of these photos and Lifes too Short was when I started to realise oh dear, what the fuck is he doing?I think they were around the same time, a real wake up call.
Quote from: DJ Bob Hoskins on May 12, 2022, 10:06:02 PMWow, if people didn't like his envelope-pushing maverick style before, this photo will surely convince any doubters. How much more subversive could you get? The answer is none. None more subversive.I spotted the below magazine cover on the shelves a few months ago. As you can see from the photo, he is clearly a genius because you see he's a comedian, but he's not even smiling. In fact, he is promoting a show about death, which is sad, and you can see he's sad there because of the facial expression and the shadows, so it really must be an astonishing work of crymedy and not the load of mawkish bollocks I assumed it was after seeing a few clips.(^ For a split second I thought the magazine was called DEREK, but alas not)
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