Will CDs have a resurgence like vinyl did?

[willbo]

I remember reading somewhere that amazon digital albums came with a pdf of the sleeve? But you had to figure out where to download it. Never did work it out. I remember the Stone's Rolled Gold coming out as a memory stick in a little box. Looked weird seeing there crammed into the Stone's CD section in HMV.

[Crenners]

I have hundreds of lossless albums on an Astell & Kern DAP. Sounds a shitload better than vinyl or any record player under a few grand, before you add in the amp and DAC. Incredibly convenient and robust device, plays everything, balanced output, great UI, shitload of power to drive planar headphones. I gave away all my CDs and got that. If it doesn't outlive me, I'll just get another one.

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Maybe we should just stop having music.

[SpiderChrist]

Maybe we should just stop having music.

I think that's probably for the best.

[rilk]

They're already having a resurgence. Early days of one anyway. I work in a charity shop in London, and the trendy teenagers who come in will give the vinyl a cursory look but usually get most excited by the CDs - particularly buying lots of early 00s stuff. Inevitable that they'll have a revival in a wider sense.

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What is the main difference between "some music" and "a noise" of for example a neighbour slipping on kitchen waste and slamming their hip on a cupboard door handle?

I'm guessing it's the plural of "some" that means it just goes on for longer.  At some point though I think it's best to say look we've done music now, we get it, you've had your fun so let's please stop using up worldly resources repeating it over and over again.  I asked nicely so please just do it thanks

[Sebastian Cobb]

it's the same difference as the difference between 'food' and 'huel'.

[SpiderChrist]

What is the main difference between "some music" and "a noise" of for example a neighbour slipping on kitchen waste and slamming their hip on a cupboard door handle?

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it's the same difference as the difference between 'food' and 'huel'.

and what's that difference?

[Pink Gregory]

They're already having a resurgence. Early days of one anyway. I work in a charity shop in London, and the trendy teenagers who come in will give the vinyl a cursory look but usually get most excited by the CDs - particularly buying lots of early 00s stuff. Inevitable that they'll have a revival in a wider sense.

Charity shop vinyl is more or less the same stuff now, I imagine it's all been rinsed or everyone's got their Rumors or that one Clifford T Ward album by now.  CDs haven't been combed through for valuation against discogs, though about the best thing I've ever found is the Best of TLC (not that I'm complaining) so where early 2000s gems are being found I don't know.

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If it helps, "a noise" of a neighbour slipping on kitchen waste and "stunting" their hip on a cupboard door handle is quite muffled through the separating walls but 96.7% unmistakable.

[Sebastian Cobb]

Charity shop vinyl is more or less the same stuff now, I imagine it's all been rinsed or everyone's got their Rumors or that one Clifford T Ward album by now.  CDs haven't been combed through for valuation against discogs, though about the best thing I've ever found is the Best of TLC (not that I'm complaining) so where early 2000s gems are being found I don't know.

Round here there's a dedicated Oxfam record shop and I've got some good bits from it including a Swamp Dogg lp, Bomb the Bass' second album (a libaray copy that's in good nick but Winter in July has clearly been rinsed far more than the rest of it) and the Blue Collar soundtrack, I also saw Bad Company's (as in the DNB guys, not the rock band) Shot Down on Safari in there. You'll not find a proper bargain in there though, whoever's pricing them seems to be following a model of asking a bit less than discogs + average postage. From what I gather a lot of shops now pick through donations and send them to these 'specialist' places who price things and more than likely pick out anything worth having.

They have a good cd selection too. I remember deliberating whether or not to pick up a Meat Beat Manifesto cd but didn't for some reason. They also sell 2nd hand hifi gear that I don't regard as particularly cheap.

[LurkMcGee]

If I really want an album on Discogs, the vinyl will usually be way too costly but then a CD will considerably be a lot cheaper and I like that. I still have a motor that uses a CD player and I inherited a tidy hi-fi with a decent CD player, so they get their use. So I do find myself buying CDs more than vinyl for those reasons, plus storage of them is a lot easier than moving about vinyl. Could be people wanting to have physical items more than just streaming stuff as well?

I do feel like tape has had some sort of a slightly small resurgence, since a lot of bands I've bought albums with have a tape that comes with a release if you spend a bit more wonga. Probably more of an 'indie/punk' thing, though.

I remember copping a decent lot of cheap and cheerful hip hop CDs that coincidentally my mate sold to make some dough at the local Cash Generator. Never encountered much in the way of good vinyl at my local charity shops, yet.

[Martin Van Buren Stan]

They're already having a resurgence. Early days of one anyway. I work in a charity shop in London, and the trendy teenagers who come in will give the vinyl a cursory look but usually get most excited by the CDs - particularly buying lots of early 00s stuff. Inevitable that they'll have a revival in a wider sense.

I think this may be because vinyl in charity shops is either shite or good + priced identical to eBay so it's not worth looking.

[Sebastian Cobb]

If I really want an album on Discogs, the vinyl will usually be way too costly but then a CD will considerably be a lot cheaper and I like that. I still have a motor that uses a CD player and I inherited a tidy hi-fi with a decent CD player, so they get their use. So I do find myself buying CDs more than vinyl for those reasons, plus storage of them is a lot easier than moving about vinyl. Could be people wanting to have physical items more than just streaming stuff as well?

Sort-of, I don't feel like I'm missing something when streaming in the same way I feel like I've bought nothing when I buy some MP3's, but I kind-of see streaming as not really owning anything, and buy the stuff I like regardless to support artists, for me it's mostly a discovery tool so more like standing in ourprice sampling an album, plus easy access to stuff "on road". I guess there are some holes - some albums by established artists that I listen to occasionally but haven't bothered to buy, if I did they'd probably be used vinyl or cd otherwise so I don't feel too bad about them getting a pittance via streaming really. I also sometimes use Tidal to play back stuff I've bought and got digital copies of in Bandcamp, may as well throw some scraps their way regardless.

[purlieu]

New Beyoncé album announced today. The deluxe box set comes with art booklet, poster, t-shirt and... a CD. No vinyl edition even announced.

[Martin Van Buren Stan]

For some mental reason her album was the cover story on the Metro. Never understood her appeal. She's talented but so bland and vapid and lifeless. She's like the Jimmy Carr of pop

[Pink Gregory]

This is a completely silly point but I find records easier to store than CDs.

We have maybe 100-150 LPs and a little stack of singles, and they're just on two shelves, but CDs are just kind of shoved everywhere and they're really hard to get to.  You sort of need dedicated CD shelves because you end up double stacking them on a bookshelf and then they become a pain to get out if you want something that's underneath/behind.

You can't get a cheap and simple CD shelf from Ikea is all I'm saying.  Wish you could, I'd play them more if I could see them all.

[Pink Gregory]

For some mental reason her album was the cover story on the Metro. Never understood her appeal. She's talented but so bland and vapid and lifeless. She's like the Jimmy Carr of pop

with probably the same tax arrangements

little bit of politics, there, my name's Ben Elton, goodnight

[Sebastian Cobb]

This is a completely silly point but I find records easier to store than CDs.

We have maybe 100-150 LPs and a little stack of singles, and they're just on two shelves, but CDs are just kind of shoved everywhere and they're really hard to get to.  You sort of need dedicated CD shelves because you end up double stacking them on a bookshelf and then they become a pain to get out if you want something that's underneath/behind.

You can't get a cheap and simple CD shelf from Ikea is all I'm saying.  Wish you could, I'd play them more if I could see them all.

When I had fewer records and played my cd's more I ended up modifying the top row of my Kallax by adding some horizontal dividers using some plastic lugs and (cut to order) wood from b&q. It was handy as because as my collection grew I could remove the wood and lugs and the holes I drilled for them aren't visible when it's full of records.

Ikea do still do cd-appropriate storage though: https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/gnedby-shelving-unit-black-brown-50277147/#content

[LurkMcGee]

Sort-of, I don't feel like I'm missing something when streaming in the same way I feel like I've bought nothing when I buy some MP3's, but I kind-of see streaming as not really owning anything, and buy the stuff I like regardless to support artists, for me it's mostly a discovery tool so more like standing in ourprice sampling an album, plus easy access to stuff "on road". I guess there are some holes - some albums by established artists that I listen to occasionally but haven't bothered to buy, if I did they'd probably be used vinyl or cd otherwise so I don't feel too bad about them getting a pittance via streaming really. I also sometimes use Tidal to play back stuff I've bought and got digital copies of in Bandcamp, may as well throw some scraps their way regardless.

Oh definitely, often enough I've liked something I have listened to online and then gone to buy the physical release. I've got a lot of stuff that hasn't had a physical release of any kind on Bandcamp, but then I've burnt (and probably subsequently lost) a CD of it for the car or whatever.

[purlieu]

You can't get a cheap and simple CD shelf from Ikea is all I'm saying.  Wish you could, I'd play them more if I could see them all.

Got these from Argos in the past few years.


Again, CDs are the best selling music format, so there's still definitely a market for shelves.


edit: Before people start straining their eyes.

[Endicott]

What is the main difference between "some music" and "a noise" of for example a neighbour slipping on kitchen waste and slamming their hip on a cupboard door handle?

Music has all the right notes.

[Pink Gregory]

Got these from Argos in the past few years.


Again, CDs are the best selling music format, so there's still definitely a market for shelves.


edit: Before people start straining their eyes.

Very jealous of you right there.

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Very jealous of you right there.

State of the wallpaper

[rilk]

I think this may be because vinyl in charity shops is either shite or good + priced identical to eBay so it's not worth looking.

Yeah that's true - I usually price up vinyl less than half of what the cheapest inc postage on Discogs is but most other shops seem to have people who don't know what they're doing in a bad sense - so you get your copies of No Parlez or whatever put out for a tenner. Places where people don't know what they're doing in a good sense - as in bargains - are getting rarer. (I'm coming here from the belief that charity shops should be  places where people without a lot of money can get nice things rather than it just being about making as much money for the charity. + obviously best not to have stuff lying around not selling).

Then also you just don't get decent stuff coming in a lot of the time for obvious reasons now.

But the CD revival for Gen X is also just a part of the general late 90s/early to mid 00s revival in clothes/aesthetics etc. The constant 20/25 year revival cycle. (I know CDs have been around longer than that! But they've also only just been gone long enough for them to be a just out of reach of living memory to kids) 

[Sebastian Cobb]

I can't really begrudge "cheaper than discogs plus postage" as a business technique when it's going to charity. Fact is a lot of people walk in to charity shops expecting everything (not just records) to be priced-up by a pair of insentient old dears who just slap a 50p sticker on everything.

[Martin Van Buren Stan]

Yeah and if they're priced too low they're probably get bought by resellers so the less well off peeps won't benefit anyway. It's a shame but charity shops are kind of snookered these days

[SpiderChrist]

I can't really begrudge "cheaper than discogs plus postage" as a business technique when it's going to charity. Fact is a lot of people walk in to charity shops expecting everything (not just records) to be priced-up by a pair of insentient old dears who just slap a 50p sticker on everything.

I know someone who haggled a fiver off an album in a charity shop. I was not impressed.

Decided to use those blank Minidiscs to record all those 7" singles I get sent with copies of Electronic Sound.

[dontpaintyourteeth]

to be totally honest though I do miss the days of things being priced by insentient old dears who slap a 50p sticker on everything

I got After the Goldrush and American Stars n Bars in Oxfam for a quid in like 2001