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The Beatles are fucking shit

Started by syntaxerror, February 22, 2014, 06:53:39 PM

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Johnny Yesno

Quote from: NoSleep on February 23, 2014, 09:37:24 PM
You should get out a bit more.

What possible use could 'other bands' be? The Beatles do all the styles.

CaledonianGonzo

As much as Miles Davis is patently amazing, the people who go 'Miles Davis aaaaaahhhh' as if it somehow invalidates what The Beatles' were doing with pop music are missing the point.

The answer, as anyone knows, is to groove out to both.

BlodwynPig

How did I miss this thread? I think its because there are too many I Love The Beatles threads I failed to grasp there would be a fellow dissenting voice.

You know my opinion of this tiresome nursery rhyme band... so I will not say anything.

However, Cocteau Twins and Can are both fantastic, its not unusual to like a varied array of music. Many of the more enlightened people on this forum do that to a high degree. Even some Beatles fans.

Here is my most listened to bands in the last 7 days

Quote
Ozric Tentacles
VentureX
Conforce
Com Truise
T-Power
Cosmic Baby
Drexciya
1991
Machinedrum
Ulrich Schnauss, Mark Peters
Lindsheaven Virtual Plaza
Mental Overdrive
System 7
Topaz Gang
Charles Webster
Silver Richards
t e l e p a t h テレパシー能力者
Norah Jones
Killing Joke
Constance Demby
Ceephax Acid Crew
Embryo
Christ.
Harry Forbes
Crystal Jaqueline
Sophie Ellis-Bextor
Eyeliner
Miami Nights 1984
Rennie Pilgrem
Telefuzz
Caravan
O-Head
Inverse Gravity Vehicle
PSYCHIC LCD
Peshay
Hawkwind
Lamont Johnson
Lindstrøm
patten
bvdub
bittertv
John Carpenter
Steve Rachmad presents Tons of Tones
James Hardway
Francis Monkman
Flooting Grooves
Hobo Cubes
Björk
Alien FM
Robin Trower

BlodwynPig

Quote from: Johnny Yesno on February 23, 2014, 09:44:33 PM
What possible use could 'other bands' be? The Beatles do all the styles.

They do many styles...but in an annoying way. *Looks over shoulder and sees Doomy Dwyer with lead piping, so makes a quick dash out of here*

biggytitbo


BlodwynPig


wosl

Cor, I've listened to just one of those on Bloder's list in the past few days: 

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Quote from: NoSleep on February 23, 2014, 09:37:24 PM
McCartney's your Coldplay; music for people who aren't really music fans. You should get out a bit more.

Too true. Just like Miles Davis is jazz for people who don't really like jazz.

Don_Preston

I hate the pro-Beatles fans who troll this thread with their praise. That's thread derailment right there.

BlodwynPig

jazz is jazz for johnny that doesn't like jazz at all.

BlodwynPig

Quote from: Don_Preston on February 23, 2014, 10:12:22 PM
I hate the pro-Beatles fans who troll this thread with their praise. That's thread derailment right there.

Let them have their say (oh, you were being sarcastic). It's amazing how rabid a Beatles fan can get. I mean its not like they don't have 1 billion other fanatics to provide comfort blankets.

I'd imagine if I attacked The Ruts or Dumpy's Rusty Nuts, or The Ruttles, or RUST with vigour, there might be a genuine case to feel aggrieved.

the science eel

Frank Zappa is fucking shit, tho'. After 1969, anyway.

BlodwynPig


SteveDave

Quote from: NoSleep on February 23, 2014, 09:22:29 PM
Check out the Isley's original of Twist and Shout, where there's tons more twist and less of the awful shouting of the Beatles cover:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cTaqn8_gMR0


Hmmm, nowhere near as exciting as The Beatles version for me. They took the song & made it their own. And gave it a proper ending too.

NoSleep

Quote from: Wentworth Smith on February 23, 2014, 10:04:38 PM
Too true. Just like Miles Davis is jazz for people who don't really like jazz.

Yeah, I'm music fan, not a Miles Davis fan. But he makes some great music, unless your name happens to be Stanley Crouch.

the science eel

Quote from: BlodwynPig on February 23, 2014, 10:19:01 PM
Can you say this is shit, hand on heart/arse?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD1RSRxfgIU&feature=kp

Yes. Why did you choose that one? It's just another example of his tedious muso noodling.

NoSleep

Quote from: SteveDave on February 23, 2014, 10:19:26 PM
Hmmm, nowhere near as exciting as The Beatles version for me. They took the song & made it their own. And gave it a proper ending too.

Well, I'd guessed you were deaf, even before now.

BlodwynPig

Quote from: the science eel on February 23, 2014, 10:27:07 PM
Yes. Why did you choose that one? It's just another example of his tedious muso noodling.

Cos it builds to one of my favourite crescendos. It has more prowess in the space between the notes than a whole slew of Beatles pop records. I mean, by all means, play them at a kids birthday party, but other than that?

NoSleep

Quote from: the science eel on February 23, 2014, 10:16:48 PM
Frank Zappa is fucking shit, tho'. After 1969, anyway.

I wouldn't dispute that (but not before that date), but this thread's about how fucking shit The Beatles are.

the science eel

I'm off to the other Beatles thread then. This one's shit.

NoSleep

Quote from: BlodwynPig on February 23, 2014, 10:29:18 PM
Cos it builds to one of my favourite crescendos. It has more prowess in the space between the notes than a whole slew of Beatles pop records. I mean, by all means, play them at a kids birthday party, but other than that?

Don't confuse the pop kids with your talk of crescendos; it doesn't even get louder, anyway.

BlodwynPig

It's getting louder in this flat now. Yeh. Kicking off my hush puppies and wiggling my toes.

NoSleep


lazyhour

Zappa after 1969 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMeGJSu7LGc

(edit: better than anything the Beatles recorded)

BlodwynPig

There are plenty of great Zappa tracks spread right through his career. No Sleep is somewhat of a musical snob (a brilliantly insightful snob), so I take what he says in good humour.

the science eel

Quote from: lazyhour on February 23, 2014, 10:37:51 PM
Zappa after 1969 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMeGJSu7LGc

(edit: better than anything the Beatles recorded)

Yeah, that's pretty good. That, and 'Disco Boy'.

Tiny Poster

NoSleep, I think you're conflating two things with the feedback story. The Beatles stumbled across it in the studio during the recording of Eight Days A Week, and so Lennon wanted to get it on record for a future song. All bands experience feedback onstage - they had their fair share in Hamburg - but they were the first to get it onto a pop song,


A few years later, Lennon and McCartney bought Epiphone Casinos, influenced by the rock sound (including feedback) of The Who and Hendrix, resulting in Helter Skelter.

Retinend

That was recorded before Zappa dissolved the original mothers in 1969, lazyhour. Same for Burnt Weeny Sandwich.

But there are plenty of great Zappa albums after 1969. Bongo Fury is 1975. The Grand Wazoo is 1973.


wosl

Quote from: BlodwynPig on February 23, 2014, 10:19:01 PM
Can you say this is shit, hand on heart/arse?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD1RSRxfgIU&feature=kp

As an exercise in arid, frenetically dextrous chops-trading it's interesting, but listening to it, I can't help recalling that quote of Peter Green's: "Good luck to the Snoggley Blues Band, who are growing very popular right now in the white blues world with a guitarist who can play 7,541 notes a minute." 

doppelkorn

It's like some people like some artists, but other people like other artists or something. Surely only one of you can be right.

I look forward to you arriving at the correct answer tomorrow.