Who are you voting for in 2024 and why?

[Small Man Big Horse]

I'd rather not vote Labour, but being in Richard Burgon's constituency I do want to give him my support and keep him in post.

I'm the same but with Stella Creasy. She was anti-Corbyn which frustrates but I genuinely believe she's a decent person who cares about her constituents, and she's publically criticised Starmer which sort of makes up for it.

[Ferris]

Pleased to discover I have a ballot in this (as long as they call the vote in the next 6 months) as my UK voting rights don't expire until the end of the year.

In Britannia's hour of need, I shall of course cast my ballot for

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DISHY RISHI FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS!!

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no not really. I'm registered in Edinburgh south and the Labour MP is one of the biggest melts going. SNP maybe? I don't really know.

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[Stoneage Dinosaurs]

Basically either greens or doing a spoil. I would like to be able to unseat the local tory MP what with it being Kemi Badenoch, but realistically that's not possible because:
1. It's been a hardcore safe Tory seat since 1931 and the only way that could possibly change is if all the moneyed selfish cunts who live here either die or are visited by a harrowing shared vision of all the needless suffering they've caused (and even then they'd probably still vote blue)
and 2. It would mean having to vote for the Lib Dems

[Cloud]

Either green (seem to mostly align with my beliefs) or spoiled ballot.  Not even holding my nose with a pen hovering over the box would make me vote for Tories or Starmer's Labour (the other Tories)

Hung parliament and PR campaign please

[Mr Trumpet]

Live in a very safe Labour seat so I have no qualms about voting Green.

[iamcoop]

Live in a very safe Labour seat so I have no qualms about voting Green.

Yeah same here. Although the Libs are fucking relentless with their leafleting round here and have done ok in the past so I wouldn't be surprised if they did well.

Sadly most of my mates and people I work with still seem to be labouring under the impression that Jeans is some sort of renegade socialist sleeper cell who's going to unleash some leftist smackdowns when elected.

[Brass Moustache]

No chance in hell I'll vote Labour after what they did to Corbyn and the Left. What message does it send if they destroy all of that, then the Left help vote them in at the next general election? They'll win without our support anyway, so fuck them, the evil cunts.

the real sickener is how many alledged Corbynistas voted for Starmer in the leadership race after his pack of barefaced lies.
Glad to say he didn't even recieve my second preference.
To this day i'll never understand why they didn't rally behind RLB.

[cosmic-hearse]

My Lewisham East MP is the utterly ineffectual (& occasionally homophobic) Janet Daby, gifted a safe seat after the local party conspired to ensure the ward had a right wing MP after Heidi Alexander's petulant resignation. I was a Labour member at the time & witnessed the party machine in full ossified swing - reactionary, bureaucratic, incompetent - & with hindsight should have realised that the party was utterly beyond reform. So, maybe Greens, if I can be arsed to leave the flat & walk 100 feet to the polling station.

Might vote Sadiq Khan in the mayoral election - I didn't last time as he's an inconsequential milquetoast centrist, but I am 100% in favour of ULEZ (& all anti car legislation in London). That said I have no passport or driving licence so will have to sort out postal voting or what have you.

[jobotic]

the real sickener is how many alledged Corbynistas voted for Starmer in the leadership race after his pack of barefaced lies.
Glad to say he didn't even recieve my second preference.
To this day i'll never understand why they didn't rally behind RLB.

I voted for RLB but stupidly for Rayner as deputy. Starmer wouldn't have got my second vote but don't know who did, who else stood? Can't even remember.

Stopped paying my affiliation as soon as Starmer demanded that schools stayed open during the early stages of Covid to show that he wasn't a union man, even if it resulted in death and illness among staff and children and their families. And Rayner, the Unison person, one of us, didn't say a fucking word.

[Brass Moustache]

I voted for RLB but stupidly for Rayner as deputy. Starmer qouodnt have got my second vote but don't know Ow who did, who else stood? Can't even remember.

It was Lisa Nandy.

[Goldentony]

this is a v safe green area as you can tell by the amount of semi detached nazis and potheads and 'practitioners' of things walking around but the councillor seems like a very decent honest good person in an age when then council hasn't been the veritable nine bob note for decades now so it'll be me going back to Green I reckon. If we're all wanking into buckets of crystals and mindfully stretching at the dole in a few years i'll apologise.

[Terry Torpid]

Who's going to vote for the new Corbyn party?

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/jeremy-corbyn-new-politicanl-party-general-election-366430/

Sources close to Jeremy Corbyn have hinted that the former Labour leader could attempt to make life a little more difficult for the Keir Starmer ahead of the upcoming General Election – suggesting that he's ready to launch an entirely new political party.

If you can't trust "sources" who can you trust?

[Senior Baiano]

the real sickener is how many alledged Corbynistas voted for Starmer in the leadership race after his pack of barefaced lies.
Glad to say he didn't even recieve my second preference.
To this day i'll never understand why they didn't rally behind RLB.

It's because they're a load of wallet inspected cucks lol

[jobotic]

Who's going to vote for the new Corbyn party?

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/jeremy-corbyn-new-politicanl-party-general-election-366430/

If you can't trust "sources" who can you trust?

Bit late in the day for that isn't it?

[DelurkedToHelp]

Who's going to vote for the new Corbyn party?

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/jeremy-corbyn-new-politicanl-party-general-election-366430/

If you can't trust "sources" who can you trust?

I would vote for it.

If it does happen, it'll be interesting to see how the Socialist Campaign Group of Labour MPs respond. In 99% of cases, I expect it'll be them squirming as they try to explain why they think people should vote to keep them in a cushy job for Starmer's Labour even when a Corbyn-led more left-wing alternative is an actual option, not just a hypothetical hope. "I agree with and believe in Jeremy but er, don't vote for Jeremy, uhh!!!"

[Ferris]

I would vote for it.

If it does happen, it'll be interesting to see how the Socialist Campaign Group of Labour MPs respond. In 99% of cases, I expect it'll be them squirming as they try to explain why they think people should vote to keep them in a cushy job for Starmer's Labour even when a Corbyn-led more left-wing alternative is an actual option, not just a hypothetical hope. "I agree with and believe in Jeremy but er, don't vote for Jeremy, uhh!!!"

I'd vote for it too. They could just run in seats that don't have SCG Labour MPs to force the party to the left, like UKIP/BNP/EDL have been doing to the tory party for years.

[non capisco]

Please, please, please, do not reward them for this - https://skwawkbox.org/2023/11/30/suspicions-of-more-selection-vote-rigging-as-starmer-aides-son-beats-palestinian-aid-ceo/ or they'll keep doing it.

Yeah, I won't. Can't just not vote but can't vote for a Labour party led by that cunt. Green or spoilt ballot depending on who's standing. They'll get in anyway without my help. What a dispiriting situation.

[Video Game Fan 2000]

as if i would ever let some dodgy fuckin website tell me how to vote

[greencalx]

Bit late in the day for that isn't it?

Yeah. Not nearly enough time to get this off the ground, certainly not for May and autumn would be a huge challenge too.

[DelurkedToHelp]

Yeah. Not nearly enough time to get this off the ground, certainly not for May and autumn would be a huge challenge too.

The Brexit Party was set-up in late November 2018 and won the European elections in May 2019, so there is some precedent for a new party doing well nationally within months.

[Brass Moustache]

The Brexit Party was set-up in late November 2018 and won the European elections in May 2019, so there is some precedent for a new party doing well nationally within months.

yeah but from the right these parties arent beholden to the Tory establishment in the same way that the grassroots union led left are beholden to the labour party. Theyre also at something of an advantage in that they have sugardaddy financeers with deep pockets and the sympathetic ear of the mainstream media machine.

If we're talking about something similar from the left, over the last 40 years theres been repeated attempts to set up breakaway parties from Labour - The Socialist Party, The Socialist Alliance, Respect etc. each one has been a bigger resounding failure than the last.

[Buelligan]

yeah but from the right these parties arent beholden to the Tory establishment in the same way that the grassroots union led left are beholden to the labour party. Theyre also at something of an advantage in that they have sugardaddy financeers with deep pockets and the sympathetic ear of the mainstream media machine.

If we're talking about something similar from the left, over the last 40 years theres been repeated attempts to set up breakaway parties from Labour - The Socialist Party, The Socialist Alliance, Respect etc. each one has been a bigger resounding failure than the last.

The bolded bit - what way is that?

Also, keep in mind, the ecology of the media is constantly changing - many people no longer go to legacy media for news, they might cross check stuff there if they're fastidious about things but their primary news sources are no longer confined to a particular daily paper or Auntie.

And, if we are talking about a new challenge from the real left, when was that last time a new left wing party arose in Britain with someone who already had an immense personal following at the helm?  Who had a built-in experienced shadow cabinet?  Who had a suitcase full of costed policies ready to roll?  Who had connections in all the right unions and organisations?  International profile?

If you genuinely believe there's no point in trying because Respect etc, why bother at all?

[greencalx]

The only breakaway to the left that I could see succeeding is if the unions went "fuck this" and decided to affiliate with a new party. But it transpires that unions are also big organisations with entrenched power structures that don't always operate in the members' interests, so...

[Deano]

I want to vote Green but I am tempted by the chance to out Nadhim Zahawi - the Tories seem committed to letting him run again despite the scandal having really upset a lot of the traditional supporters here. Lib Dems the second biggest party so wouldn't even have to vote for Starmer. And I'm thinking a Lib/Lab coalition would be better than a full Starmer government at this point.

[Steve Faeces]

My skepticism of new left parties is based on what seemingly happens every time one is set up you which is you get a mix or all of; overstretching resources to attempt to achieve impossible goals, infiltration by SWP/various other unappealing Trot groups, infighting, dominated by middle aged men, and replicates the most tedious procedural elements of the Labour party. Add to that too many banter parties/twitter injokes, like the Northern Independence Party, being associated with socialism.

If I was Corbyn I would start a new party, but make it about three or four key issues, nothing else, no hundred page manifesto, no talking up even winning a seat. A message you could fit on the back of a fag packet if needed. Say climate, housing and NHS. Get some activist groups and unions not affiliated to the Labour party on board. Stand in ten to fifteen selected seats where the sitting MP is in clear and personal opposition to the stated aims of the party and where not that many votes are needed to make an impact. So for example Wes Streeting has a majority of only 5,000ish and is in favour of further privitisation of the NHS. Stand a candidate there, peel off some of those votes, give people who Labour have left behind with the move to the right and those that might otherwise hold their nose a place to go.

[BlodwynPig]

45 Labour voters on here... rightly keeping their head down.

[Mr_Simnock]

Im voting labour

[Mr_Simnock]

VOTE LABOUR

[gilbertharding]

The place where I live now is the only place where I've ever voted for someone who won their seat (a Labour MP) who lost his seat in 2010.

I'll be voting Green, because the prospective Labour candidate (about whom I know nothing) will almost certainly be a centrist dick.

[Brass Moustache]

The bolded bit - what way is that?

Also, keep in mind, the ecology of the media is constantly changing - many people no longer go to legacy media for news, they might cross check stuff there if they're fastidious about things but their primary news sources are no longer confined to a particular daily paper or Auntie.

And, if we are talking about a new challenge from the real left, when was that last time a new left wing party arose in Britain with someone who already had an immense personal following at the helm?  Who had a built-in experienced shadow cabinet?  Who had a suitcase full of costed policies ready to roll?  Who had connections in all the right unions and organisations?  International profile?

cause in Farage/the Tory partys case its the former with the populist voice. Its a case of the tail wagging the dog.
Hence why Cameron prostrated himself to the loony right and gave Farage his referendum.
In the lefts case its the Labour Party that tells the broad church to get into line while the unions have to suck it up and like it.

If you genuinely believe there's no point in trying because Respect etc, why bother at all?

Good question. I am completely nihilistic about politics now, especially from the aperature here in Northern Ireland where we dont even have a functioning left-right political ecosystem the way they have it in the rest of the UK.