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The Captain Tom grift continues

Started by Icehaven, July 05, 2023, 06:07:25 AM

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dontpaintyourteeth

What happened with the old lady walking up and down her stairs in a bid to emulate sir captain now lord mr tom

Ferris

Quote from: Huxleys Babkins on July 05, 2023, 12:44:13 PMAstonished to read that they've only just wound up accepting donations, in spite of being under investigation for over a year. Who the fuck was still giving money to these people?

Over two years of investigation. It kicked off in March 2021 but only became public knowledge in June 2022.

I suspect nobody has given them a penny in quite some time but there's still £750k in a bank account in the charity's name and the people who "work" there are still presumably drawing a salary.

Edit: to add, what they could have done was donate all the money to Age UK along with the Tom trademarks and say "we initially made a mess of this. We genuinely want to help but aren't qualified so here we go, thanks and goodnight". Everyone would say ok fair enough and move on (including the press and Charity Commission I imagine).

They didn't though, because the urge to cream a little (a lot? Far too much?) off the top was too strong. No point doing charity unless we all get our beaks wet too. Stands to reason.

Video Game Fan 2000

this is like a nigerian prince scam where phonier and shitter the scam is, the more effective it is because the target are the old and the very dim

Ferris

Quote from: dontpaintyourteeth on July 05, 2023, 12:54:19 PMWhat happened with the old lady walking up and down her stairs in a bid to emulate sir captain now lord mr tom

Knighted in liz truss' honours list

Icehaven

Quote from: Quote on July 05, 2023, 12:52:54 PMI'd quite like to find out to what extent our government pushed this supposed feel-good story turned typical tale of upper class British grifting. They were given such a publicity blitz in comparison to other tales of people pulling together in trying circumstances during covid.

I read that story not long ago about how we have a whole load of feelgood, 'uplifting' hashtags ready to go should a terrorist incident happen, in order to correctly manage the public's response to such things and pondered if the good Captain and his tale was seized upon as a pandemic equivalent. 'Don't spend time pondering how your government fucked up its pandemic response to such a staggering degree, focus instead on this doddering old fucker trundling around his giant garden. Heartwarming innit?'

I distinctly remember thinking, and probably posting on here somewhere, when he first got on the news I'd presumed the garden he was walking around was the extensive grounds of a nursing home he was in, and once it became apparent that no, it was the enormous garden of his own private manor house that we were yet again in the territory of the extremely rich trying to guilt trip money from the already struggling masses. For that reason alone I never have or would ever have donated a penny to the manipulative bastards, even if the money had all been going to the right places (which again it obviously wasn't going to. Rich people don't operate like that, that's why they're rich), it's the principle of the thing dammit. I'd have had more respect for them if instead of hobbling round the garden and rinsing the public they'd pretended he'd won the millions cheating at cards while they actually had a secret meth lab in the rectory basement.

Midas

Quote from: idunnosomename on July 05, 2023, 12:35:14 PMIt's been a ride though, from his first wife running off with their sex councillor all the way to a young woman nearly getting a draconian prison sentence for pouring a caravan blackwater canister over his silhouette.

Craptain Tom

(That's all I got)

oggyraiding

I'm struggling to find it, but didn't his daughter boast about the catalyst for the fundraising being her and and her husband flippantly offering Tom a pound for every lap of the garden?

Des Wigwam

Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on July 05, 2023, 10:43:29 AM

Holy shit that is Parvati (one for the Sopranos fans there).

As a some-time upholsterer - what is point chair? That's made me more angry than the whole walking round the garden thing + consultancy grift combined.

idunnosomename

Captain Tom's Twitter account seems to have sprung back into action this year after going quiet when the charity commission news broke last year, including Hannah being interviewed on GB News about CAPTAIN TOM THE MOVIE.

lots of awful redundant #hashtagging but this one id my fav
QuoteHow wonderful is this lovingly restored image of Captain Sir Tom Moore? The original iconic image was restored over 9 hours, by Ben Lopez of @lovedonesforever [via Insta] and was on display at Captain Sir Tom's funeral. : @lovedonesforever


Digital version of John Thomson's "four hours in make-up" there

BlodwynPig


Quote from: oggyraiding on July 05, 2023, 01:07:09 PMI'm struggling to find it, but didn't his daughter boast about the catalyst for the fundraising being her and and her husband flippantly offering Tom a pound for every lap of the garden?

From a Telegraph article in December 2020

QuoteIf I could go back a year and give my Christmas 2019 self a piece of advice, it would be: "Get plenty of sleep, because you're going to need it." What's happened to our family over the course of 2020 has been the most incredible accident that none of us could ever have expected: it started with one throwaway remark in the garden and has ended with my father, Captain Tom Moore, at the centre of a global movement of hope.

Last year, Dad was getting over a fall he had in our kitchen at the end of 2018. He fractured a hip and was frustrated by the pace of his recovery. Unbeknown to us, he ordered a treadmill, so he could rehabilitate over the winter. One sunny lockdown weekend, he came out with his walker – now familiar to the whole world – and his sun hat on, and my husband Colin said: "Carry on walking, Tom, we'll give you a pound a lap. Do 100 by your 100th birthday."

We'd had to cancel his big party, so it seemed a great idea. I said, "Let's set up a Just Giving page, and if we raise £1,000, fantastic. Maybe we can touch a few people, give them joy." I put a press release together, and a couple of local radio stations picked it up.

https://archive.fo/YJ9Oe

Quote

Walking endless laps around the garden is traditionally the best method for 99yr old's to recover from fractured hips.

Replies From View

Quote from: idunnosomename on July 05, 2023, 12:35:14 PMIf Billie had shagged the boring old Tory cunt it all never would've happened. Makes you think.

Wasn't she married to Chris Evans at the time?

Replies From View

Quote from: idunnosomename on July 05, 2023, 01:09:32 PMCaptain Tom's Twitter account seems to have sprung back into action this year after going quiet when the charity commission news broke last year, including Hannah being interviewed on GB News about CAPTAIN TOM THE MOVIE.

lots of awful redundant #hashtagging but this one id my fav

Digital version of John Thomson's "four hours in make-up" there

AI augmentation involves replacing part of a person's blurry face with approximations drawn from a catalogue of other similar faces.  Captain Tom being restored, in fact he is being overwritten or killed a second time, as I like to think of it.

Icehaven

QuoteIf I could go back a year and give my Christmas 2019 self a piece of advice, it would be: "Get plenty of sleep, because you're going to need it."

Really? You could go back to 3 months before the pandemic hit Britain and that's the information you'd choose to bring from the future?

Replies From View

Quote from: DelurkedToHelp on July 05, 2023, 01:22:58 PMFrom a Telegraph article in December 2020

https://archive.fo/YJ9Oe

Thanks, I was unaware of this.  So they Initially wanted money (and to set up a fundraiser) all about paying for his 100th birthday party.  I wonder how that sidestepped into him doing this as a good deed for charity.

shoulders

Doesn't take a vivid imagination to picture her and her family plotting how best to exploit the corpse hoard.

Probably reached a position of complacency and hubris where they overlooked it was a craze tiring itself out because there was literally nothing left to fuel it except the empty calories of shit merchandise and publicity stunts.

It's absolutely delightful to discover that so many of their neighbours consider them to be ignorant nasty selfish cunts.

Ferris

Quote from: DelurkedToHelp on July 05, 2023, 01:22:58 PMFrom a Telegraph article in December 2020

https://archive.fo/YJ9Oe

Even this is flagrant nonsense. I mean:

QuoteUnbeknown to us, he ordered a treadmill, so he could rehabilitate over the winter.

Like... we're supposed to think "oh ho ho that old scamp!!" but what are we being asked to actually believe happened here? A 98 year old man setting up a chekky Amazon prime account?

Manipulative cobblers from the start.

JamesTC


idunnosomename

Wonder how much Hannah got selling her father's inage for this.

QuoteThe late UK army captain and charity fundraiser Captain Sir Tom Moore will be the subject of a new biopic from the writers of Fisherman's Friends and the director of Finding Your Feet.

Nick Moorcroft and Meg Leonard, who also wrote Finding Your Feet and Blithe Spirit, have written the script for the as-yet-untitled feature, which Richard Loncraine will direct.

The production is targeting an autumn shoot in the UK, Thailand and Barbados; UK firm Circus Studios is financing the project and has boarded sales, which it is launching this week in Cannes.

The film will be produced by Flying Fish, with Circus' James Spring, plus Moorcroft and Leonard serving as producers.

It will draw on Moore's childhood in Yorkshire, his military career and his fundraising efforts, which saw him raise £38.9m through walks around the garden at his retirement home in the run-up to his 100th birthday.

Moore broke two Guinness World Records, achieved a number one single with 'You'll Never Walk Alone' and was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II. He died on February 2, 2021 aged 100.

"With his motto 'Tomorrow Will Be A Good Day', Captain Tom inspired us to adapt his unique and inspirational life story for the screen," said Moorcroft and Leonard. "We cannot wait for audiences to get to know the side of the man and his story that they have never seen or heard before."

The film "will explore how his strength, wisdom, and humour brought a family together and motivated him to raise money for the National Health Service who he credited with saving his life," said Loncraine.

"Captain Tom's story struck chord not just in the UK, but in over 160 countries. His life, his achievements and his legacy will entertain, move, and inspire cinema audiences the world over," said Circus Studios' James Scott.
https://www.screendaily.com/news/captain-sir-tom-moore-to-receive-film-treatment-from-fishermans-friends-writers-exclusive/5182238.article

I watched the GB News interview with her,  about the only significant detail is that her father said his young self should be played by "Spider-Man" (Tom Holland)

Icehaven

Quote from: Ferris on July 05, 2023, 02:13:34 PMEven this is flagrant nonsense. I mean:

Like... we're supposed to think "oh ho ho that old scamp!!" but what are we being asked to actually believe happened here? A 98 year old man setting up a chekky Amazon prime account?

Manipulative cobblers from the start.

He probably got the staff to do it, had it discreetly delivered to the east wing and hid it in the corner of a ballroom they rarely use.

Icehaven

QuoteWith his motto 'Tomorrow Will Be A Good Day'...

Or another way of putting it, "Jam tomorrow."

bgmnts

I quite enjoy this story, it's a lovely little example of how fucked people are.

Video Game Fan 2000

Quote"We cannot wait for audiences to get to know the side of the man and his story that they have never seen or heard before."

porn wah wah commences

Icehaven

Quote from: Replies From View on July 05, 2023, 02:01:00 PMThanks, I was unaware of this.  So they Initially wanted money (and to set up a fundraiser) all about paying for his 100th birthday party.  I wonder how that sidestepped into him doing this as a good deed for charity.

I thought that too, we've all got this wrong, she never actually says the money was ever going to charity, they just let us assume that when it was for a pool house all along.

Replies From View

Quote from: idunnosomename on July 05, 2023, 02:25:48 PMWonder how much Hannah got selling her father's inage for this.
https://www.screendaily.com/news/captain-sir-tom-moore-to-receive-film-treatment-from-fishermans-friends-writers-exclusive/5182238.article

I watched the GB News interview with her,  about the only significant detail is that her father said his young self should be played by "Spider-Man" (Tom Holland)

"Dear Tom Holland,

It was my father's dying wish for you to play him in a biopic about his life, so now you have to do it.

Best,
His Daughter Hannah Gram Moresfeld or whatever"

Rich Uncle Skeleton

Quote from: Icehaven on July 05, 2023, 01:59:07 PMReally? You could go back to 3 months before the pandemic hit Britain and that's the information you'd choose to bring from the future?

Of course! Can't cream a fat heap of cash off the back of your 100 year old dad if there's no pandemic. Pretty telling response though, "get plenty of rest there's a shitload of money on the line, tv appearances coming and contracts to sign!"

utter shite from the start, how the hell wasn't there some massive backlash the minute they started selling that sodding gin among other things


madhair60

i think a lot of us around here would like to see a bit Captain Sir Tom Less!

Icehaven

#59
Quote from: MoreauVasz on July 05, 2023, 02:54:19 PMSo did any money go to the NHS?

Probably but they raised over £33 million so even if 99% went to charity and they only creamed off 1% that's over £330,000. You could build a cracking spa with that.

In reality it was probably a lot more than 1% though.