Points-based immigration system [Split topic]

[Sony Walkman Prophecies]

So postcolonial labour was admirable, honourable work. The next day, possibly in an article being written now, we'll be told they were exploited.

As usual, the saner comments are in the comments section: as someone pointed out, we don't have ID cards in this country. It's far too easy for people to come over here on the basis of grilling chicken, then end up selling hash until they're summinarily deported. Half the people walking around central London these days look like they don't know why they're here, or even what country they're in. Even Kensington High St. feels like an open asylum. It was only a matter of time until something like this was proposed, Brexit or no.

Personally, I'd be much happier people coming here with a clear direction and purpose. My last boss was Indian, as was most of the workforce. All bright people with an in-built understanding of English custom and etiquette. Race only counts if you're a moron. Wiser heads just want to see people living and working here who understand the lay of the land without being put on a training course.

[Buelligan]

Blodwynpig is part of a pair of lunatics that are in the top ten posters on here. Maybe they are sleeper cells.

BlodwynPig only makes sense if you think he actually works for the KGB. He hates the BBC, that's a given, but everything else is just drivel. Nothing makes sense apart from 'give me tenure in a country I pretend to hate'. Fucking hell, he makes Pancreas look good. His posts are purely designed to chip away at the UK for no obvious reason. He's clearly taking orders from Putin.

His partner Buelligan is just as insane but a lot simpler. She lives a Libertarian lifestyle in France but wants socialism in the UK. Probably to get back at her father.

God knows how they have gotten away with it for so long.

Sorry, I missed this.  I'm not anyone's partner but I am exceedingly fond of Blods.  An easy mistake to make for someone as emotionally illiterate as you. 

My father's dead and I (clearly) think about him less often than you do, which is a bit odd.  So no need to worry about that, dead people don't care, at least in my experience.

But you are correct about the socialism.  I do want it in the UK and the whole rest of the world, all of it.  I hope that doesn't shock you.  Not that interested in borders, you see.  I'm surprised you didn't intuit that, given the magnetism my ideas seem to hold for you.  Think about it now if you like, get your knickers down first though.

[bgmnts]

Isn't it possible to want something ideally but practically make do with something else in the meantime?

[Buelligan]

It is.  Danger Man wants a clip round the ear but I make do with telling him he's a sad old wanker, picking a fight with me for no other reason than he needs my eye upon him.  That sort of thing.

I know the poor sod gets off on the attention and who am I to deny him his pleasure?

[Johnny Yesno]

So postcolonial labour was admirable, honourable work. The next day, possibly in an article being written now, we'll be told they were exploited.

As usual, the saner comments are in the comments section: as someone pointed out, we don't have ID cards in this country. It's far too easy for people to come over here on the basis of grilling chicken, then end up selling hash until they're summinarily deported. Half the people walking around central London these days look like they don't know why they're here, or even what country they're in. Even Kensington High St. feels like an open asylum. It was only a matter of time until something like this was proposed, Brexit or no.

Personally, I'd be much happier people coming here with a clear direction and purpose. My last boss was Indian, as was most of the workforce. All bright people with an in-built understanding of English custom and etiquette. Race only counts if you're a moron. Wiser heads just want to see people living and working here who understand the lay of the land without being put on a training course.

Fucking hell. If the Hugo Boss suit fits.

[jobotic]

It's just sub-Paulie drivel now.

[TheBrownBottle]

So postcolonial labour was admirable, honourable work. The next day, possibly in an article being written now, we'll be told they were exploited.

As usual, the saner comments are in the comments section: as someone pointed out, we don't have ID cards in this country. It's far too easy for people to come over here on the basis of grilling chicken, then end up selling hash until they're summinarily deported. Half the people walking around central London these days look like they don't know why they're here, or even what country they're in. Even Kensington High St. feels like an open asylum. It was only a matter of time until something like this was proposed, Brexit or no.

Personally, I'd be much happier people coming here with a clear direction and purpose. My last boss was Indian, as was most of the workforce. All bright people with an in-built understanding of English custom and etiquette. Race only counts if you're a moron. Wiser heads just want to see people living and working here who understand the lay of the land without being put on a training course.

I'm not sure if you think ID cards would prevent grilling chicken or selling hash.  And I'm also not sure that the 'chicken - hash - deportation' flowchart is necessarily reflective of reality.

I'm definitely of the thinking that making value judgements on 'half' the people in central London on the basis that you don't think they belong there (and you'll need to fill in the blanks re identifiers, otherwise I'm going to guess that we know how you make those judgements) may be unsound reasoning.

I think most Europeans have a decent understanding of 'English' (not British?) etiquette.

Bear in mind, also, that the points system will likely to nothing to reduce the immigration figures.

I don't think this policy will bring you what you want.  I'd urge you to reappraise your take on the make-up of London, too.

[phantom_power]

There is also the possibility that someone might come here on the basis of grilling chicken but end up with a more "worthwhile" profession, or contribute to society in some way that isn't measured purely on job title and income. That is the thing I really dislike about this system, that people are just numbers on a spreadsheet, categorised by the economic benefit to the country. It doesn't take into account the many other ways people contribute to society, and just perpetuates the idea that we are all just on this planet to make money for other people

[Endicott]

Someone might come here and work as a bus driver and have a total cunt for a child. This could also happen to a couple who arrived and became shop keepers.

[Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse]

So I can't be a racist because I admit there are some good ones,

[Johnny Yesno]

You have to admire the brass neck of someone so utterly loathed on this forum for his stupid bigoted comments suggesting people coming to the UK should 'understand the lay of the land'.

[New folder]

Don't ask me how, but I've got my hands on 1000 black market Immigration Points, so if anybody wants in, hit me up. Sexual favours required.

[Johnny Yesno]

Don't ask me how, but I've got my hands on 1000 black market Immigration Points, so if anybody wants in, hit me up. Sexual favours required.

Alright then.

Actually, I don't even need the 1000 black market Immigration Points.

[New folder]

Not being racist or anything mate, but I don't do business with Brits. Sorry.

[Johnny Yesno]

Even turned down by a fraudster. fml

[Inspector Norse]

You have to admire the brass neck of someone so utterly loathed on this forum for his stupid bigoted comments suggesting people coming to the UK should 'understand the lay of the land'.

It's just part of the drive to hire cheap foreign labour for the Ordnance Survey

[Dewt]

If you can get an S-class score in any Japanese game you're allowed in

[Dewt]

Also just be white, you can do anything if you're white and not poor, it's great

[Sony Walkman Prophecies]

Bear in mind, also, that the points system will likely to nothing to reduce the immigration figures.

Probably not. I have no faith in the Conservatives to carry out this out without ballsing it up. But, as I say, I think this would have happened even without Brexit. The voice of the public has become too strong in this direction. It would have been almost impossible to ignore.

[Buelligan]

Are we not "the public"?  Do we not have hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions; fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases, healed by the same means, warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer as the public is?

Ask yourself who is amplifying this voice you hear so loudly.

[bgmnts]

I'm an unemployed public so surely my say counts the most here.

And when I see three workers on twelve tils in ASDA with about 20 self service checkouts, I think immigration isn't the problem.

Hot take.

[Johnny Yesno]

I'm an unemployed public so surely my say counts the most here.

And when I see three workers on twelve tils in ASDA with about 20 self service checkouts, I think immigration isn't the problem.

Hot take.

Not forgetting that one of the solutions to staff shortages these arseholes are suggesting is further automation.

[Paul Calf]

I wish more people would sell hash. I gave up smoking dope when that foul-smelling, overpowered hydro homegrown was the only game in town. If I could lay my hands on some hash, I might have the occasional toke.

[Cardenio I]

Even Kensington High St. feels like an open asylum.

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[Buelligan]

Not forgetting that one of the solutions to staff shortages these arseholes are suggesting is further automation.

I hope to live to see them having their arses wiped by a malfunctioning robot, on the hour, every hour, in their twilight years.

Maybe I should take a course in robot maintenance.

[Dewt]

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That is gold.

[Paul Calf]

I wonder where you get 'an inbuilt understanding of English custom and etiquette' without having set foot in England?  Probably civilised by the East India Company. Sterling chaps.

[Buelligan]

Just go to Wetherspoons on match day.

[Johnny Yesno]

I wonder where you get 'an inbuilt understanding of English custom and etiquette' without having set foot in England?  Probably civilised by the East India Company. Sterling chaps.

There you go, doing down are mercenary boys.

[Blue Jam]

I wonder where you get 'an inbuilt understanding of English custom and etiquette' without having set foot in England?

Benidorm.