"And the winner is..." (2024 awards season thread)

[dissolute ocelot]

I just watched Barbie, thinking about the Oscar nominations, and they seem pretty fair. Gosling's Ken is clearly the stand-out character: he sings, he dances, he's funny, he wears outlandish clothes. Robbie is playing a much more passive character, and while she's good at some of it, makes a believable doll, and gets some pathos out of it, she doesn't get as much to do. I didn't find her particularly funny - it's not even a great comic performance being overlooked, and Robbie's done much better performances. Maybe it's just a case of villains being more charismatic than heroes, and dweebs being funnier. Meanwhile America Ferrera is good even if her character arc kind of peters out.

Direction and screenplay are not all that special - maybe it should get credit for not relying on a McGuffin for Ken getting control of Barbieland and just offering a vague explanation (and a solution that involves the Barbies flirting!?), but it crams in too much, doesn't go extreme enough (Lego Batman or even Super Mario Bros are darker), the moral is confused (be nicer to Ken?), and leaves plot threads dangling (Will Ferrell doesn't need to be there after his first scene, but he's Will Ferrell, so gotta shoehorn him in somehow). So yes, feminism doesn't mean rewarding confused films that don't do their female leads justice, just because they're partly made by women.

[Sebastian Cobb]

"this barbie is a eugenecist" etc

Very telling that people are doing very sanctimonious bitching about a mega star in a plastic doll film isn't getting an award and can't be happy about a Native American up and comer having a really good chance of bagging it.

[Old Nehamkin]

It feels apposite that Hillary Clinton has weighed in on this given the "it was her turn!" mentality the Robbie-boosters seem to be engaging in here.

[Mwnger]

When Barbie came out last summer, its success was refreshing antidote to the years of superhero domination

Now here we are in Oscar season and its entitled cheerleaders are already behaving exactly like online Marvel fans

[Mister Six]

Direction and screenplay are not all that special

The screenplay is outright terrible. Like you say, Ferrell basically has no reason to exist other than to provide the motivation for a weak chase sequence. Ferrera's character gets no real resolution. The pacing and structure are shot to shit. It's a mess.

Worse, the message of the supposedly feminist film is basically "Bitch all you want, women, you can't change a fucking thing, so lay back and think of possible incremental change." Ferrell's portrayed as an antagonist and a representative of what's wrong with the world ("Look! The people running this toy company co-founded by a woman are all men!") but actually tries to stop the Kennification of Barbieland even though it means record profits for his company, and after overseeing the return of the status quo, makes no promises (much less attempts) to change the corporate culture. Ferrera is presumably still working at Mattel in a job that made her wish for death, but now she's putting more effort into being a mother, so that's... er, good? The Barbies are awoken to the horrors of patriarchy, but their solution is to return to a caste society with the promise of change tracked to the improvement for women in the real world (ie. equality is for suckers, get what you can get for yourself and fuck egalitarianism). And Barbie's big reward for all this is... to enter the real world and be subject to all the horror that she's experienced?

Of course, it'll win as a consolation prize because none of the other Barbie nominees are going to take home the gold, even though every other adapted screenplay (even Killers of the Flower Moon, which was compromised by DiCaprio's ego) is miles better. 🤷�♂️

It feels apposite that Hillary Clinton has weighed in on this given the "it was her turn!" mentality the Robbie-boosters seem to be engaging in here.

In retrospect, I think that was entirely her motivation. She can't stand that she's now a political irrelevance, and is bringing up the box office vs awards as an analogue to her winning the popular vote but not getting the presidency (due to the ridiculous electoral college system in the US). It's pathetic grasping at publicity and relevance that, depressingly, seems to have worked.

[Blinder Data]

did nobody stay up for this then? it was on ITV

Oppenheimer dominated but it looks like they tried to spread the awards around, though Scorsese got nothing as per and maestro was obviously deemed too needy to be rewarded by the academy

good that Godzilla -1 won for visual effects and zone of interest for sound

[Elderly Sumo Prophecy]

I watched a bit of Poor Things a few days ago and it was verging on being a soft porn film.

[El Unicornio, mang]

and zone of interest for sound

And best International Picture!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhoRfsDkEkM&ab_channel=DeadlineHollywood

Notable that the Academy didn't upload that speech to their own site

[Bad Ambassador]

Watched the show last night - the song performances from Barbie were very good, there's a nice clip circulating of Scorsese absolutely beaming during I'm Just Ken, some of the skits were amusing, but the whole thing was kept pretty tight, actually running shorter than Killers of the Flower Moon. Downey clearly not liking Kimmel cracking jokes at his expense was very funny, as was Schwarzenegger and DeVito having a go at Keaton for beating them as Batman - cut to Keaton, in a cravat for some reason, glowering at them.

The awards themselves were very predictable - I could have cleaned up on an accumulator - with Oppenheimer largely sweeping the board, Murphy graciously shaking the hands of all five presenters before starting his speech, Emma Stone clearly not expecting to win and her dress starting to fall apart as she mounted the stage, Jonathan Glazer explicitly calling out Israel during his speech and lots of people wearing the Gaza solidarity badge, the director of Godzilla Minus One struggling to deliver his speech in phonetic English, rather than relying on an interpreter, and numerous blown cues by the orchestra, including playing the Pink Panther theme during one transition for no reason, and clearly being unable to play any score from Zone of Interest when it won, so they opted for generic Yiddisher music, which seemed a bit off. The Best Picture reel for the movie looked suitably ominous.

[Dr Rock]

I've seen all the fillums and IMO every award should go to Poor Things as it's a timeless masterpiece, and also best comedy.

[Minami Minegishi]

Very predictable and rather tediously slick. These cunts would standing ovation a fart.

Glad TZoI got a couple of awards and fair play to Glazer.

[rjd2]

Very predictable and rather tediously slick. These cunts would standing ovation a fart.

Glad TZoI got a couple of awards and fair play to Glazer.

https://twitter.com/jpodhoretz/status/1767007087882637388

Poor Things should have won literally every award but its not the worst list of winners tbf.

[Mister Six]

https://twitter.com/jpodhoretz/status/1767007087882637388

The New York Post is a right-wing tabloid, so not really surprising he'd come out with that. It'd be more interesting for the New York Times lot to come out with something similar, but I think they'll just quietly not mention Zone of Interest ever again. Lucky for Glazer he puts out films so rarely that it'll have blown over by the time the press kicks off for his next one.

[Minami Minegishi]

https://twitter.com/jpodhoretz/status/1767007087882637388

Poor Things should have won literally every award but its not the worst list of winners tbf.

Short film?

I don't do Twitter (obvs) but I know that cunt fronm the URL.

[convulsivespace]

Watched the show last night - the song performances from Barbie were very good, there's a nice clip circulating of Scorsese absolutely beaming during I'm Just Ken, some of the skits were amusing, but the whole thing was kept pretty tight, actually running shorter than Killers of the Flower Moon. Downey clearly not liking Kimmel cracking jokes at his expense was very funny, as was Schwarzenegger and DeVito having a go at Keaton for beating them as Batman - cut to Keaton, in a cravat for some reason, glowering at them.

The awards themselves were very predictable - I could have cleaned up on an accumulator - with Oppenheimer largely sweeping the board, Murphy graciously shaking the hands of all five presenters before starting his speech, Emma Stone clearly not expecting to win and her dress starting to fall apart as she mounted the stage, Jonathan Glazer explicitly calling out Israel during his speech and lots of people wearing the Gaza solidarity badge, the director of Godzilla Minus One struggling to deliver his speech in phonetic English, rather than relying on an interpreter, and numerous blown cues by the orchestra, including playing the Pink Panther theme during one transition for no reason, and clearly being unable to play any score from Zone of Interest when it won, so they opted for generic Yiddisher music, which seemed a bit off. The Best Picture reel for the movie looked suitably ominous.

You forgot the best part: Al Pacino absolutely flubbing the Best Picture announcement.

[Sebastian Cobb]

When Barbie came out last summer, its success was refreshing antidote to the years of superhero domination

Now here we are in Oscar season and its entitled cheerleaders are already behaving exactly like online Marvel fans

I think any fanbase that stans something that can be described as 'corporate ip' is going to be dreadful.

[Noodle Lizard]

Ryan Gosling doing Ken song with Slash on guitar solos, can you say EPIC?

[Dr Rock]

Ryan Gosling doing Ken song with Slash on guitar solos, can you say EPIC?

[Head Gardener]

Messi, the dog from Anatomy of a Fall

[phantom_power]

The only bits of the ceremony I have seen are Glazer's speech (which was brilliant and anyone who criticises it in the media is just proving what he said) and John Mulaney presenting Best Sound, which was funny. I think I have seen all I need to.

Downey Jr was the only one I would question from the winners. It was an OK performance but I don't think he would have won if he didn't have the Oppenheimer juggernaut behind him. And he seems like a cunt as well

[Dr Rock]

Messi, the dog from Anatomy of a Fall

The dog did it, btw. Accidentally.

[Sebastian Cobb]

Wim Wenders' wife turned up in a dress made from VHS tapes of his films.

[SteveDave]

The Best Costume Oscar(tm) was brought into my son's school this morning as the winner is a mother of a kid who goes there. The school's Instagram is awash with photos of the head teacher kisses it.

[Mister Six]

Wim Wenders' wife turned up in a dress made from VHS tapes of his films.

Be careful smoking around that.

[C_Larence]

hope she rewinds it before taking it back to the shop ha ha!

[convulsivespace]

The Best Costume Oscar(tm) was brought into my son's school this morning as the winner is a mother of a kid who goes there. The school's Instagram is awash with photos of the head teacher kisses it.

Hope it was delivered to the school by a nude John Cena.

[El Unicornio, mang]

https://www.comicsands.com/conservatives-john-cena-naked-oscars-2667488444.html

Predictably, conservatives criticized the segment, with influencer Andrew Tate going so far as to describe it as "slavery."

Conspiracy theorist Liz Cronkin claimed "the Hollywood pedophiles, rapists and perverts are certainly getting off on this" by having Cena walk on stage "naked at the Oscars during prime TV that children are most likely watching.

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[phantom_power]

Lots of people, sorry cranks, are saying it is some initiation ceremony into the cabal of endocrine stealers where you have to prostrate yourself to them by doing something emasculating or embarrassing. Most people just see it as a bit of a joke

[Mister Six]

Lots of people, sorry cranks, are saying it is some initiation ceremony into the cabal of endocrine stealers where you have to prostrate yourself to them by doing something emasculating or embarrassing.

Yeah, seen these weirdos creeping into my film groups. People are aggressively stupid these days.

[EOLAN]

Laszlo Nemes, best International winning director of 'Son of Saul's strongly refuting his successor Jonathon Glazer's speech. States he should have remained silent, then goes on a long Habaras tirade about the glorious right of Israel to commit anything they must in their defence.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2024/mar/15/jonathan-glazer-oscars-speech-condemned-by-son-of-saul-director-laszlo-nemes