Richard Herring getting twitchy in lockdown: 2020

Started by MojoJojo, June 05, 2020, 02:54:47 PM

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letsgobrian

Quote from: beanheadmcginty on November 20, 2021, 10:01:49 AMSurely Scott Aukerman could sue him at this point? Fair enough copying someone's idea for a laugh, but once you've started making money from it then it's a step too far. Especially as the execution is so much worse.

It's a public domain parlour game, there's been commercial iterations of it long before CBB's version. For example: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/677/would-you-rather

non capisco

I would like the scenario of Aukerman's legal team describing Herring's actions as "a classic Would You Rather blunder" though.

olliebean

There's at least two dozen books called "Would You Rather" on Amazon, and Herring's only comes in at no.7.

sutin

Although it was an unnecessarily mean thing to say about someone he worked with for years and is associated with, Stewart Lee couldn't be any more on the money when he said Rich operates in his own bubble and has no ear for comic intonality.

Pink Gregory

The shame is, considering how much that he has written, Herring could probably write quite a good book, about anything.

Haven't read How Not To Grow up or Talking Cock, I mean in this stage of his career.

and yet this is what we have

Magnum Valentino

How Not To Grow Up is bad. Amazon sent me a copy to review and when I reviewed it, Rich and Collins made fun of me on their podcast and people in the comments started hassling me.


Mobbd

Quote from: Magnum Valentino on November 20, 2021, 04:42:21 PMHow Not To Grow Up is bad. Amazon sent me a copy to review and when I reviewed it, Rich and Collins made fun of me on their podcast and people in the comments started hassling me.

That's amazing.

I remember How Not to Grow Up being the first time I was a bit disappointed with Rich's work. As well as being largely old material (from his brilliant Oh Fuck show) it was just a bit dashed off, rushed for reasons I couldn't understand.

But at least it was an actual book. Codified human experience and reflection.

The EQ books are very nothingy. Would You Rather is beyond the pale. The cover (urgh, that cover - and this may be the publisher's doing rather than Rich's) actually says "for anyone aged 6 to 106!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

EggsLikeABird

One thing I'll say about Richard, though, his ability to die regularly in front of a crowd who is there for him mostly is quite something. Those intros he does where he just rambles, waits for a laugh and continues on has gone past the point of cringing, and its just acceptable. He marched through it. Fair play.

He's incredibly mediocre, though. His books, his interview style, his stand up. Its all just bland and unoriginal, like if he sticks with the same run of unappealing shit, we'll get it eventually. I'm glad Time Gentlemen Please did well for him financially so he can continue going nowhere, though.

Mobbd

Quote from: EggsLikeABird on November 21, 2021, 06:40:39 PMOne thing I'll say about Richard, though, his ability to die regularly in front of a crowd who is there for him mostly is quite something. Those intros he does where he just rambles, waits for a laugh and continues on has gone past the point of cringing, and its just acceptable. He marched through it. Fair play.

He's incredibly mediocre, though. His books, his interview style, his stand up. Its all just bland and unoriginal, like if he sticks with the same run of unappealing shit, we'll get it eventually. I'm glad Time Gentlemen Please did well for him financially so he can continue going nowhere, though.

God, those intros. I remember thinking it was a bit odd in the early days of RHLSTP/RHEFP how he was happy to have a notebook out like when Geoff Tipps does comedy. I guess it was a vestige of when he did audio-only podcasts; I suppose it would have made sense for him to continue this if the video element was simply a fly-on-the-radio-studio-wall situation but he's on a stage with an audience!

But then I just got used to it, just as, I imagine, did those more recent audiences giving him zero response you mention. The new development of him hurriedly reading through one of his blog posts to almost no response is shockingly dire. The way he is signposting the "jokes" that just about survive on the page but die and burn and sound self-congratulatory (despite being abysmal) when read aloud. The first time I noticed him doing this was the blog about the missing Prince George tree but he's done it again since. It's a truly baffling state of affairs. It's okay that he reuses ideas in different media but why can't he just remember the story in his brain and summarise it for the performance, riffing off it in real-time like, you know, a comedian would? Basic fucking presentation skills that even office workers know about.

He used to balance out his mediocrity with a sort of self-awareness of it, of leaning into it, and creating a shabby but consistent and increasingly funny world around it. But now he seems to be leaning into any vaporous old shit almost as if his only mission now is to milk whatever bilious dregs he can out of the world his younger self devotedly and industriously built but which has now essentially failed. I don't like this and it makes me genuinely sad. I remember him saying that he'd like to be like Ken Dodd by working into his 80s. Hmm. Might need some new schtick for that, Rich. And you might need to stop reading off bits of paper that your tired fans have already read.

turnstyle

Quote from: Small Man Big Horse on November 20, 2021, 09:49:52 AMI discovered this week that the "Would You Rather?" book is different from the emergency questions book - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Richard-Herrings-Would-You-Rather/dp/0751585718 - the absolute gall of the man to chuck out shit like this astonishes me sometimes.

Quote from: Amazon ReviewerAs usual Richard Herring has written a very funny book. Perfect for long car journeys and even dates! Great buy. Would recommend.

Somewhere, there's a woman escaping through the toilet window of her local Wetherspoons.

Just listening to the latest Office Hours 9-5 podcast and one of the callers asked a couple of Emergency Questions from the book.

Absolutely sickening convergence.

Virgo76

The Problem With Men wasn't a bad book, in fairness.

sutin

Quote from: Virgo76 on November 27, 2021, 08:26:07 PMThe Problem With Men wasn't a bad book, in fairness.

I need to get that.

He's churning out books like he does podcasts now, and probably with the same level of care.