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Chart Music Podcast 2 (Man Sound) - ITS PIPOU TIME!

Started by dr beat, August 11, 2020, 09:55:15 PM

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SteveDave

I just had a coughing fit at "It was the 70s, that used to happen all the time. Like the dog up the road, Glen..."

DrGreggles


non capisco

Quote from: SteveDave on November 03, 2021, 01:15:16 PM
I just had a coughing fit at "It was the 70s, that used to happen all the time. Like the dog up the road, Glen..."

Ha ha, yeah! That whole section was excellent.

"They should have just called their dog I Love Pink Floyd"

Brundle-Fly

Taylor's breakdown of the 1977 ennui of Pete Townshend had me laughing like a drain.

SteveDave


famethrowa

Quote from: SteveDave on November 04, 2021, 01:10:01 PM
The coat down of Queen was quite delightful.

He's totally right, we forget that Queen was an overblown joke of a band. We knew there were some half-decent songs there, but it was all done so over the top it may have been a pisstake.

badaids


Started to listen to all these again in order from the beginning for the fourth time round.

It's good from the off of course, but it doesn't hit its real and brilliant stride until #11, which is the 1982 David Van Day parasitoid wasp one and is fucking amazing.  With Taylor and Simon.  This is the one to recommend to people I think as a good entry level episode.

It's noticeable that #11 is the first one where Taylor really comes out of his shell - in the beginning episodes he's very non-committal, and point blank refuses to tell Al the pop and interesting things he is up to.  He's so reticent in his first episode, I wonder how well he knew Al at that point and how hard they had to convince him to take part.

famethrowa

Anyone catch the very fleeting Chris Morris reference?

Ballad of Ballard Berkley

Quote from: famethrowa on November 04, 2021, 10:52:44 PM
He's totally right, we forget that Queen was an overblown joke of a band. We knew there were some half-decent songs there, but it was all done so over the top it may have been a pisstake.

As they said in the episode, Queen were knowingly camp and overblown, that irony was an integral part of their shtick. But that doesn't excuse some of the awful shit they put out.

I do agree with Taylor, though; there are around a dozen great songs in the Queen canon, which is more than a lot of supposedly major bands manage. And I enjoyed his positive assessment of We Will Rock You; it's such a familiar track, you forget how odd it is. It's basically just a load of massive fuck-off drums with Freddie spitting out a pseudo rap on top, capped with an almost atonal guitar solo from May. And then it ends. An enjoyably weird Rock Anthem.

Ballad of Ballard Berkley

Quote from: badaids on November 04, 2021, 11:02:13 PM
It's noticeable that #11 is the first one where Taylor really comes out of his shell - in the beginning episodes he's very non-committal, and point blank refuses to tell Al the pop and interesting things he is up to.  He's so reticent in his first episode, I wonder how well he knew Al at that point and how hard they had to convince him to take part.

In the latest episode he admits that he was initially skeptical about the whole project, as he felt they'd end up repeating themselves. There are, after all, only so many things you can say about TOTP regulars such as Shakin' Stevens, Status Quo and Showaddywaddy.

But as we've since found out, acts like that are an endless source of comedy gold. Mind you, Taylor's deep-dive into Dave Bartram's book felt like a fitting end to their Showodyssey. Where can you go from there??

dr beat

Great episode.  I've more to say, but for now, I've had a long week at work, tired, emotional, but with one of those earworms to listen to 'Occupants...(I grew up in a Carpenters household).  Put it on, haven't heard it for a while and my immediate thought - great lost Super Furries cover.

But maybe I should go to bed.

Also, that Punch doc is mint.

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boki

Really enjoyed Al's suggestion that David and Taylor put together a Brotherhood Of Man puppet show to piggyback off of the success of the Abba reunion.  I'd love to see - but mostly hear - that.

Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on November 04, 2021, 11:40:46 PMBut as we've since found out, acts like that are an endless source of comedy gold. Mind you, Taylor's deep-dive into Dave Bartram's book felt like a fitting end to their Showodyssey. Where can you go from there??
Sikh Lad's porn solo career, of course.

dr beat

Am seriously tempted to buy Dave Bartram's book, it could be worth something in a few years, like Don Estelle's.

Maybe we could do a read-along? I'm also wondering if Taylor has read the book(s!) of football manager Neil Warnock, as mentioned elsewhere on Cab.[nb]For those unfamiliar with the Warnock oeuvre, think Peter Cook as Alan Latchley.  But less well-dressed.[/nb]  But anyway, back on-topic.

Uncle TechTip

Only came on to post: "Carpenters, music that sounds like air freshener tastes". Taylor Parkes is SO good. The others are interesting but he's another level.

Cottonon

Great episode
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. Stubbsy has really loosened/lightened up a bit compared to some of his earlier appearances.

Taylor as always fantastic. I'd never noticed the bass in Satisfaction doing that rhythmic counter point he highlighted.

Johnboy

Such a great episode.

I´m tempted to transcribe Taylor´s spiel about the Jam, I´ve never heard such an accurate assessment

The fact that three big Live Aid songs were on this episode, ok it's not a surprise that the audience that day would have been satisfied by stuff from the late seventies but to have three of them in one episode is something eh?

famethrowa

I took Taylor's advice and checked out The Fall's Totale's Turns, as recorded live in the workingmen's clubs usually visited by bands like Smok-eh. Fantastic stuff

famethrowa

Quote from: Cottonon on November 14, 2021, 03:57:50 PM

Taylor as always fantastic. I'd never noticed the bass in Satisfaction doing that rhythmic counter point he highlighted.

The other funny thing with that bassline is that it goes up in the minor key, and goes down in the major key! The guitar riff doesn't specify the key really, so why not both?

Egyptian Feast

I watched an episode from 1974 last night with appearances from Queen, Sparks and Roxy Music which finally convinced me they're probably better off not addressing the jingle monster. There was so much to discuss in almost every performance (except Peter Shelley, who was only worth a couple of crap Buzzcocks jokes), but every couple of minutes he'd emerge from the darkness flanked by a couple of potential victims and provoke such a visceral reaction it was an exhausting watch. His presence taints everything and is impossible to ignore, so I can totally understand why they've stayed away from his episodes so far.

I'd seen a couple of B&W episodes involving him where the links had missing sound (one of which was co-presented by Davy Jones) and it was unpleasant enough, but in full colour and with inane patter intact he's unbearable to watch. I was pointlessly offering members of The Rubettes £20 to smash his kneecaps, but that wasn't going to change anything.

Cunt had such a nerve calling the nervous young cameraman a 'villain' I'd have kicked the TV in if it wasn't on a mount.

shiftwork2

Yes, oddly enough I'd watched the Christmas episode from 1974 recently too.  What really stayed with me - aside from what we know now obviously - was what a charmless and disconcerting presence he was.  And he's woven throughout in a way that's different to other presenters.  It's just all about him, the camera trained on him and the entitlement to do whatever he likes.

Brundle-Fly

Skinheadyheady had me guffawing in the street today.

Ballad of Ballard Berkley

I'm watching that episode now. Savile's links are so incoherent, he makes Blackburn look like a slick broadcasting powerhouse. This is hardly the worst thing you can say about him, but he was really shit at his job.


Ballad of Ballard Berkley

On a lighter note, near the start of that episode, one of the Rubettes boasted about having fifteen hits in 1974. They didn't even have fifteen hits during their entire career. Talking out of his white flat-capped arse.

bigfatheart

Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on November 18, 2021, 07:21:18 PMI'm watching that episode now. Savile's links are so incoherent, he makes Blackburn look like a slick broadcasting powerhouse. This is hardly the worst thing you can say about him, but he was really shit at his job.



Yes, 100% - what really grates about his appearances is how shit he is. If he was decent, then it would at least explain his popularity and even, though it would still be morally repugnant, explain a little bit why people would turn a blind eye. But he's fucking atrocious, barely interested, garbled, and inept. All of it could have been avoided if somebody in power had said "Hold on, he's shit isn't he?"

Bernice

It's almost certainly been posted in this thread, possibly several times, but where do you all get these old TOTP eps from?

Ballad of Ballard Berkley

The Christmas episode we're talking about is available on YouTube. Savile warning, obviously.


Bernice


Brundle-Fly

Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on November 18, 2021, 09:02:11 PMThe Christmas episode we're talking about is available on YouTube. Savile warning, obviously.


That theme tune still gives me a hard on.

Ballad of Ballard Berkley

Wait until you see Jingle Nonce in a kimono.

Sorry.

Ballad of Ballard Berkley

Savile ends the episode by referring to Slade - the biggest band in Britain at that time - as The Slade. He had no interest in pop music. If you read Dan Davies' chilling book, In Plain Sight, it becomes clear that he wasn't interested in anything apart from all the awful things we now know about him.

An opportunistic psychopath, a truly despicable man. So yeah, it would be difficult for the Chart Music gang to segue from some cogent analysis of Sparks or an amusing coatdown of Paper Lace while dealing with that fucking ghoul cropping up after every number.

I know we've had this discussion before, and I understand the arguments in favour of them confronting Savile (in a side episode or whatever), but I totally get why Al has erred on the side of caution. It's all too horrific.