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David Baddiel to tell us about online abuse

Started by Famous Mortimer, August 02, 2021, 05:32:22 PM

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Sebastian Cobb

good quality microfibre cloths are a pretty remarkable really aren't they

"I heard ultrasound can clean your glasses so I shrieked at them in an increasingly high pitched voice for thirty minutes."

idunnosomename

Remember the time he purchased and ate baby food? People said it was a bit. Again this looks like a bit but I think he might actually be quite this stupid.

Although I am struggling how he thought a blast in the microwave might "melt the glue off". The hinges have metal on them so he could possibly have started a fire. What a fucking clown.

Sebastian Cobb

can't think about people eating baby food without thinking of Tony Burgess in Who's Ready for Ice Cream?

idunnosomename

Here it is everyone

https://twitter.com/Baddiel/status/1466709685780852740

Looks shit doesnt it. Ive been posting on the internet for decades now and a troll never burnt my house down yet. Log off David, you're shit at the internet

Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse

HAHAHAHAHA

"Twitter burned my house down"

"Twitter is the reason angry arseholes kick off in public"

"This is going to be about me and my addiction to Twitter"

oh I think my favourite is how he puts clips of trans rights marchers, a statue of a slave owner coming down, and black lives matter protesters immediately after talking about how angry we are, with a VO about how "there's no doubt that social media has been instrumental in bringing about real world changes" - you know, nice and neutral so that both sides can decide whether that's good or bad

followed by a sinister BUT over a bunch of protesters being fucked by police, which of course he blames on social media "fuelling a divisive culture of outrage, hatred and anger"

love the still of an ANGRY YOOF lashing out at a good hardworking british bobby

idunnosomename

it is a bit like a Philomena Cunk thing. blunt and incredibly exaggerated, but presented completely at face-value by a naïve idiot

Sebastian Cobb

All the blue ticks will nod sagely and say it's brilliant and that's why we should ban online anonymity.

consent manufacturing in action

frajer

If Liam Williams needed ideas for a fourth series of Pls Like, he doesn't anymore.

Hilariously po-faced preposterous hyperbollocks.

Famous Mortimer

Quote from: idunnosomename on December 03, 2021, 04:12:51 PMit is a bit like a Philomena Cunk thing. blunt and incredibly exaggerated, but presented completely at face-value by a naïve idiot
I don't think he's naïve, though, he's doing all this deliberately while having that paper-thin veneer. He hates the left, hates protesters and is given repeated opportunities to stick the boot into them.

I thought it was going to be the dweebs at BBC News but it seems it's produced by Wall To Wall, which is ultimately owned by AT&T, the telecoms company whose links to the far right are well-documented. That's modern business, make antisemitic conspiracy theories with one hand and spurious denunciations of antisemitism with the other.

idunnosomename

oh interesting.

and I think David Baddiel is a vindictive cunt who refuses to apologise for his racist bullying (not just the general sin of "doing blackface"), but also he genuinely believes he is a public intellectual that is unfairly hounded by antisemitic trolls, and that people's houses get burnt down because they get into an argument on Twitter.

RicoMNKN

Almost all of the interviewees mentioned are columnists or comedians, as if it was a clip show rather than intended as a serious documentary.

Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: RicoMNKN on December 03, 2021, 06:55:18 PMAlmost all of the interviewees mentioned are columnists or comedians, as if it was a clip show rather than intended as a serious documentary.

I could tell they were all 'blue-tick wankers' but also only recognised Caitlin Moran.

chveik


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monkfromhavana

Do you think Frank Skinner still gets on with him? Or is it one of those relationships where if Baddiel starts to stray into politics or Twitter, Skinner just changes the subject?

Cuellar

Someone should really do a documentary about comedians of a certain age and how twitter has destroyed their lives.

Sort of Jon Ronson but with GUTS

Sebastian Cobb


Sebastian Cobb

QuoteAs an aside I once suggested Baddiel as the host for an event the charity I was working for was running years ago. But it turned out he was blacklisted because he was notorious for bullying events staff. Maybe social media did that do him who can say Man shrugging

Worth clicking through just to see a snapshot of the editing Poirot mentions
https://twitter.com/hywelroberts12/status/1466802116731809797

DrGreggles

To be fair to Baddiel, I've been aware of him for over 30 years now and AT NO POINT did it occur to me that he might not be a massive fucking cunt.

chveik

"scrach a liberal, a fascist bleeds' is getting truer by the day

wrec

Like another forum fave used to, he talks about Twitter as if it's an exhilarating rollercoaster ride of knowledge and learning, an intellectual feast he can't resist, but what he's clearly really addicted to is having praise and attention on tap.

Guarantee that the conclusion will be that everyone needs to put their differences aside, stop getting so worked up about everything and just get along [but criticism of blue ticks is effectively murder].

Quote from: wrec on December 04, 2021, 10:53:16 AMLike another forum fave used to, he talks about Twitter as if it's an exhilarating rollercoaster ride of knowledge and learning, an intellectual feast he can't resist, but what he's clearly really addicted to is having praise and attention on tap.

Never heard it put better than you just did. That's why it rubs me up the wrong way every time I hear someone in the media talk about being addicted to twitter, even if they aren't as big a prick as Baddiel. It's the implication that twitter is a thriving meeting of the bohemian intelligentsia, and that's why they can't stop using it. The blue ticks feel like they're part of a special enlightened group doing important work by publishing their every thought, and it's really just an echo chamber and a vehicle for their own narcissism.

It makes me cringe when I hear people describe in serious terms their relationship with twitter, as if it's something to be taken seriously.

And, the conclusion of the Baddiel types is always basically that they feel bad when they're criticised or heckled, so they want that to be changed somehow, not realising that part of the inherent appeal of twitter itself is that it's an open public discussion.
If that's not the appeal, then they would just write blog posts instead of tweets.

ajsmith2

I've never quite understood what intrinsic quality Twitter possesses over any other social media service (Facebook being the main other one obv, but heck even MySpace and Bebo were contenders when Twitter began) that made it the preferred platform for that 'cut above' intelligentsia media class, Stephen Fry being the defining UR-example of course.

I can maybe see the argument that it's interface looks more professional and serious, but the 140 character limit (as it had in it's pomp) would seem to me like a hugely debilitating built in factor apropos achieving a higher plane of discussion. Anyone got any insights into why/how it was adopted en masse by that lot when it's very set up seems designed to disable the better level of conversation they aspired to?

My guess would be the character limit, because it means there's an immediacy to it. You can't sit there and overthink what you're going to say.
So you feel refreshed and liberated to just say whatever comes into your head, and you get addicted to using it more and more, then inevitably your social and political views start coming out and it snowballs.

that's my best guess at why, but tbh I've had the same question in my mind too.

beanheadmcginty

This might be an overly simple theory, but the appeal might be the actual blue ticks themselves. I'm pretty sure Twitter was the first social media to have this kind of validation status symbol. Minor celebs love that shit.

idunnosomename


peanutbutter

I think Linehan's description of why he loved it so much back in that doc about him from like 2010 gets EXACTLY why that level of celeb liked it so much (i.e. you could block anyone you didn't like very easily), it was very easy to block people and build up an absolutely massive social circle of people who love you but with a kind of facade of equality. A sense you could convince yourself all these people were following you because they just thought you were amazing rather than anything to do with your celebrity status.

Just major cognitive dissonance that any critical engagement was "the trolls". And like, tbf, actively tagging someone while saying something negative about them was probably very frequent and would've felt like direct abuse to the celeb receiving notifications about it.


Blue ticks only came years later when most of these people were already massively hooked to the feed.

chveik

Quote from: beanheadmcginty on December 05, 2021, 02:44:31 PMThis might be an overly simple theory, but the appeal might be the actual blue ticks themselves. I'm pretty sure Twitter was the first social media to have this kind of validation status symbol. Minor celebs love that shit.

one of the promises of the internet was that anyone could equally share their opinions to the world. people that have built a status as opinion-havers/makers are terrified of that. the blue tick allows them to keep the hierarchy there is between them and anonymous randos, so that their voices aren't drown by the masses'. and there's another thing they are even more terrified by, it's socialism, for obvious reasons. in the anglo-sphere now that for all intents and purposes Corbyn and Sanders have been defeated, the only thing they might be afraid of is cancel culture, which doesn't really exist but from their perspective it still carries the slight possibility that they could be held accountable for all the terrible shit they've said and done.