Starmer's Labour: Ghouls and Tools on the Ship of Fools

[Buelligan]

If only it were so.  In his mind, all the culpa rests with anyone who's in his way.  Dreadful human beings.

[idunnosomename]

he recently did an argument that no one disagrees with Diane Abbott unlike Ruth Smeeth because Jews Don't Count and black people are fine really.

just after Diane got a massive pushback for her kneejerk reaction against Durham University giving advice to sex workers.

[Sebastian Cobb]

I loathe baddiel but I hate all the simpering idiots that uncritically lap up his nonsense even more. The BBC have commissioned him to do a show about online abuse, I assume it's a serious-face version of his trolls show, he'll be more than happy to do a bit of authoritarian consent manufacturing when it comes to online control.

[KennyMonster]

he recently did an argument that no one disagrees with Diane Abbott unlike Ruth Smeeth because Jews Don't Count and black people are fine really.

just after Diane got a massive pushback for her kneejerk reaction against Durham University giving advice to sex workers.

He's gone after Abbott before hasn't he?

I'm not saying Baddiel is racist but he has a history of dismissing the troubles of people with skin that is darker than his in favour of those he identifies as his own lot.

[Sebastian Cobb]

in an ideal world the only platform he'd gain traction on is /r/confidentlywrong

edit: a whole thread of him being a bit racist:
https://twitter.com/jrc1921/status/1460651455237529612

"even though they're black they're incredibly bad at high-fiving"

[chveik]

David Baddiel is a racist.

[wrec]

David Baddiel is a racist.

A racist narcissist and a daily reminder of the Dunning-Kruger effect

[idunnosomename]

I loathe baddiel but I hate all the simpering idiots that uncritically lap up his nonsense even more. The BBC have commissioned him to do a show about online abuse, I assume it's a serious-face version of his trolls show, he'll be more than happy to do a bit of authoritarian consent manufacturing when it comes to online control.

oh no, the guy is a fucking idiot. he was happy to black up and do self-deprecating oy-vey jokes c.1990, back when he probably couldn't even remotely point to Israel on a map. it's only in our post Leveson made-up dystopia he's painted as an intellectual by people who know better, but don't fucking care

he is a racist though.

[Sebastian Cobb]

He was happy to stick up for count dankula when he got arrested, looking at the dates Crobbins would've been loto by then but I guess the antisemitism bandwagon wasn't quite in Baddiel's field of view at that point.

[idunnosomename]

The antisemitism crisis didnt begin till 2018. Crobbins mural facebook comment from six years prior came out in March. then the big march with Ruth Smeeth to get Marc Wadsworth expelled was in April. Frances Weetman resigned in September, and has tried to make a career out of it since.

really all this needs writing up properly. but I guess doing so would be antisemetic.

but anyway, before this, it was hilarious to make a pug salute to the phrase "gas the Jews". because that's a light-hearted parody, isn't it. you could've had it salute to like, seig heil, or ein volk ein reich, but you chose "gas the Jews". that's fine.

[Barry Admin]

you could've had it salute to like, seig heil, or ein volk ein reich, but you chose "gas the Jews". that's fine.

He did that too.

Weird time to click into this thread after a sleepless night. I was just thinking how I actively avoid reading certain threads on here like the Captain Tom or dead Queen one because 1) edgy internet humour isn't really my scene and 2) I get anxious about the sort of shit I'm hosting and the trouble it could get me into if I do read them.

Yet I defended that pug video at the time as it made me laugh. 🤷‍♂️ humour is endlessly complex and fascinating.

[Buelligan]

I think, to me, at least, the issue here is - either the pug vid's funny (to some/many) and needs to be taken in that spirit OR it's a crime.  The problem lies when you're fine with the pug, fine with the blackface laughter at Jason Lee but act like you're sucking battery acid because Crobbo once said to an artist asking why his mural was facing destruction -



That's the problem with Baddiel and all those people who leapt with glee upon this utterly dishonest juggernaut.

[Sebastian Cobb]

Precisely. I didn't think the pug thing was funny, it was poor taste and very offensive, dankula is clearly an idiot and an arsehole but I'm still not sure it should've been a police issue really (far more concerned with people in newspapers inciting racial hatred in polite language), being an unemployable pariah due to his own stupidity seemed enough. Although none of that has much bearing on baddiels obvious inconsistency.

[holyzombiejesus]

The mural only became an issue once Luciana Berger raised it, 6 years after Corbyn's initial comment and the day after she'd attended a weekend away with the ChangeUK plotters. Transparent.

[Sebastian Cobb]

This can't be right, several labour mp's would have you believe people were engaging in violent antisemitism.

[Sebastian Cobb]

Is anyone aware of the Breakthrough Party btw? They bill themselves as

New, youth-led democratic socialist party | Transform work | End the housing crisis | Resist the police state | Fight for climate justice | Orange circleSun with small cloud

Which seemed interesting enough to keep an eye on and followed them just to see what they were about. Not long later I got this direct message:

Hey, I just wanted to message and say thank you for the support and engagement with Breakthrough on Twitter! We really do appreciate it! We would love for you to get involved with
the party! Have you thought much about joining our movement?

I can't say I am because I'm old and was only vaguely curious but thought it was quite proactive.

[Sebastian Cobb]

Fabricant going in with what shitpost left has been saying for some time. I can only assume there's going to be a bit of rat-in-sack damage limitation.

[Bernice]

Why did fabricant choose to illustrate this point with a picture of himself from 40 years ago?

[pancreas]

Breakthrough are good people. If they are standing in your area, go door-knock for them. Same with Northern Independence Party. There's nothing to lose right now, and a slim chance of a gain.

[pigamus]

I'd like to feel some optimism about the Tories being existentially fucked, and I'd like to believe it's so bad that even getting rid of Johnson won't solve things for them, but then I remember that the proferred alternative is Sir Waxy Pissface and his bucket of cunts, and I can only go back to feeling cold and numb and indifferent.

[pancreas]

This current red theme is making me think of the Labour Party. Turns out I'd prefer Conservative.

[Sebastian Cobb]

Breakthrough are good people. If they are standing in your area, go door-knock for them. Same with Northern Independence Party. There's nothing to lose right now, and a slim chance of a gain.

Cheers!

I find it unlikely they are in Scotland, which is partially why I haven't bothered replying to them yet.

[idunnosomename]

I don't think Starmer did legitimately drop the ball on Savile, there wasn't enough submitted to take it to trial back then. but his "when I was Director of Public Prosecutions" is as bad as "my dad's tool".

JOBS FOR MATES

oh shut up you fucking pepperami man dickhead

[Sebastian Cobb]

there's plenty of other stuff despite that tbh, even ignoring the obvious de menzies stuff (presumably why he won't go in too hard on Cressedia Dick) there's still stuff like him as CPS trying to get Simon Walsh done for possessing fisting porn:
https://www.indexoncensorship.org/2012/08/porntrial-obscenity-cps-simonwals/

[idunnosomename]

The Cressida Dick shielding is one of the worst things about this pink penis of a man. completely shows what an establishment shill he is there

[Johnny Yesno]

The Cressida Dick shielding

Sir Kieth Box.

[king_tubby]

https://twitter.com/allforthanookie/status/1461470964278087684

Oh Ken.

[Sebastian Cobb]

The Cressida Dick shielding is one of the worst things about this pink penis of a man. completely shows what an establishment shill he is there

💯

[Sebastian Cobb]

I go with the small easy cut and dry stuff first, work my way up like.

[shoulders]

The Cressida Dick shielding

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